China clearly and concisely - our army will stand side by side with Russia
Source: | Official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China Wu Qian..
"The Chinese army is ready, together with the Russian army, to defend justice in the world" - the Chinese Ministry of Defense declared very clearly at the moment. Wu Qian, the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, said this with an emphasis on a clear message to the increasingly furious representatives of the NATO alliance. It is no coincidence that the statement comes at a time when the West is increasingly considering attacking the territory of the Russian Federation.
According to http://eadaily.com, "The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) is ready to strengthen strategic ties with the Russian armed forces and cooperate with them in the defense of international justice. Wu Qian, the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, said this at a briefing, RIA Novosti reports.
No one will pick Moscow's nose!
"The Chinese armed forces are ready to cooperate with the Russian military to fully implement the important consensus reached by the heads of the two states in order to further strengthen strategic communication and coordination, deepen mutual trust in the military sphere, and jointly implement the Global Security Initiative. Wu Qian said.
According to a Chinese military department official, PLA military personnel are ready to "advocate international justice and impartiality" together with their Russian counterparts, as well as make every effort to ensure international and regional security.
That might not be a lie. They said "GDP", not "GDP PPP". GDP is a fake metric, a Ponzi scheme measurement where printing money or increasing debt increases your GDP. Given the billions shoveled into the Kiev regime by the US and its vassals it could well be that the GDP in 2024 really has grown by 3.8%.
Russia hit a massive underground LNG storage facility in western Ukraine, too, a repository from which Poland & Germany drew a percentage of its LNG allotment. Europe losing its juice.
Ukraine is just a platform from which to launch PGMs at Russia.
Whether it has electricity is irrelevant.
And thanks to the geniuses in the Kremlin, who basically refuses to seriously lift a finger for two years to move the front line as far West as possible, the real war is now starting at their border.
I guess you dont get the move. Let them hit russia in order to hit back real bad. What matters is the long term plan where Nato will remained as the aggressor and flipflop the whole narrative.
The Kharkov "offensive" may have been such a bait. What happened:
1) Limited incursion with very small forces, capture some villages
2) Ukraine sends 50K there with lots of equipment
3) The equipment is systematically destroyed while Russia suffers essentially no losses because all its artillery is on the other side of the border
4) Thus Ukraine faces a choice -- be very quickly attrited to nothing in this trap, or allow Kharkov to be sieged.
5) NATO starts open strikes on Russia in order to prevent that
6) Russia can hit back.
The problem is that this is giving way too much to the Kremlin for planning more than two moves ahead, something that there is absolutely no evidence they are capable of based on their performance all these years.
And, most importantly, I am not seeing Russia hitting back once it was openly attacked, which is already ongoing for 36 hours.
" And, most importantly, I am not seeing Russia hitting back once it was openly attacked, which is already ongoing for 36 hours."
Here is the BIG FALLACY .... you - like everyone else participating in this sort of game - are guessing based on what you "see" - made visible on purpose or surfacing through the cracks - which is but a minuscule part of THE BIG PICTURE.
It's all guessing, no matter what amount of information/ computer systems/ reconnaissance capabilities you have. Operating based on visibility and TRUTH is the ONLY option available and "visibility" has never been higher on any level, SO those operating closest to THE TRUTH wil EVENTUALLY be "victorious" no matter how long it takes and how much it "costs' but one thing is sure ....
THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ONLY - THE ONE AND ONLY INCARNATION OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FOREVER AND EVER - AMEN HALLELU-YAH - SOLI DEO GLORIA!
Actually you DID - I have notification prove - before you changed your mind ....
THE TRUTH doesn't care about "likes" as THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN "likes" always the latest FAD - read LIE - in "town" ... since THE SERPENT, EVE AND ADAM IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN ... and here we are thousands of years later and man's mind is more blinded than ever ... exactly as PROPHESIED .... and THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN - ALL disciples letting their mind being locked up in PLATO'S MENTAL PRISON/LIE CAVE - is going to continue to LIE till the very END and EVE is going to encourage the promotion of THE LIE pretending to "know to discern between `good and evil`" ... HELL IS WAITING FOR ALL THOSE REFUSING THE OFFER OF SALVATION!
You are harming yourself considering others "morons", we are all "morons" in the eyes of GOD ALMIGHTY and admitting it is the ONLY way out of the madness. It's hard I know but there is NO ALTERNATIVE!
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Matt 7, 1-5
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
Matt 7, 7-8
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Check back in a couple of days. Russia does not ignore assaults on the motherland. "no evidence they are capable of based on their performance all these years." Where is that coming from. or is it just a coping vent ?
1) It has definitely ignored them for the last 60+ hours. Including the first ATACMS on Belgorod today
2) Should we understand it that Crimea is not pat of the "motherland" given that it has been under ever escalating attacks for nearly a year now?
3) Regardind the past performance of the Kremlin -- do you realize that when Putin took power on the last day of 1999, Ukraine was not a security issue for Russia, Banderites were a fringe minority, everyone spoke Russian, etc.? Under whose watch was it transformed into what it is inow?
You are either a troll or incapable of seeing that Russia is decisively winning this proxy war following their own successful strategy.
Emotional escalation does not serve Russia.
Drawing AmeriNATO into close proximity to near the Russian border & existing line of contact benefits Russia and is problematic for AmeriNATO.
Russia is going to occupy all or most of Ukraine by the time this is over.
Why fight & destroy right across Ukraine? Then have to rebuild all of it.
Russia does not want or plan to fight in Kharkov, Dnipro, Odessa, Kiev or Zaporizhia- but does plan to absorb these cities & regions into the Russian Federation.
To do this with minimum damage Russia needs to destroy the AmeriNATO/Ukro military where they are now.
Which they are very successfully doing.
But of course your emotions & exceptionalism know better than the Russians!
His jumping off point is the book of the same name by the Polish psychologist Andrew M. Lobaczewski. It describes the descent into evil and incompetence that happens when psychopaths and other people of abnormal psychology are allowed to obtain power.
I asked my local representative to publish their psychopath test after they'd 'diagnosed' Putin as a psychopathic mass murder in a private letter to me, as reason to not sign a Stop The War petition at that time signed by a dozen or so Labour MPs.
I based my request on the insights given to us in Lobaczewski's "Political Ponerology" and many other similar resources, as campaigning tool to compare themselves to other candidates who would refuse.
Have you heard of "The Goldwater Rule"? Basically, it states that psychiatrists and psychologists may not offer a diagnosis of someone they have never met. It came about after a magazine surveyed a bunch of psychiatrists about the psychological state of Barry Goldwater who ran for president in 1964.
It's a solid rule and I don't see why it shouldn't apply to Putin as well.
ANYONE who takes advice from the gospel of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN/ MAKE BELIEVE/ MONEY/ HALF-TRUTHS/ LIES no matter how clever it sounds _ and it will always sound very clever (in order to deceive, most of the time "inadvertently") ... is operating out of PLATO'S MENTAL PRISON CAVE created by the same gospel of DECEPTION!
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Matt 7, 1-4
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16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matt 7, 16-20
THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ONLY - THE ONE AND ONLY INCARNATION OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FOREVER AND EVER - AMEN HALLELU-YAH - SOLI DEO GLORIA!
You can’t print more people. Ukraine suspended elections. Biden regime trying to throw Trump in jail. EU censoring as much as possible and attacking citizens for being against rapefugees. Such sacred beautiful democracy!
Sure you can. Doesn't necessarily change the war's outcome. But that could change, too.
During the Viet Nam war all of North Viet Nam ceased to exist with each casualty report. That many North Vietnamese died.
The Pentagon is doing pulling the same crap with Ukraine. For every Ukrainian soldier killed ten mercenaries (US and the boots of its vassal state) show up inside Ukraine.
The last video I saw showed a French Legionnaire lying dead on the ground, wearing a Velcro Ukrainian flag, along with a French flag on their uniform. His head rather neatly blown off.
So it's just the drip drip drip of the final collapse of Ukraine. Waiting for the mass surrenders to begin. That's the bellwether of the end. Morale has to be terrible on the Ukrainian side at this point. What good news have they heard lately?
All the brinkmanship by the West can't be interpreted in any other way but the collapse is near. Otherwise, why bother? They're hoping to negotiate their way out of this.
True, but the level of political investment in Ukraine is unprecedented. EU and NATO have made it their number one objective to prevent Russian victory.
The cost associated with their "investment" is commonly referred to as "until the last Ukrainian". It's colossal. I'm not just talking about manpower losses, but split families, widows. None of that is concerning our EU leaders.
In addition to that we have irrepairable, in the short term at least, damage to power generators and infrastructure. The damage is in hundreds of billions.
One has to wonder, at what point will the cost of repairing Ukraine outweight the potential benefits. I think eventually EU will conclude, that they are better off letting Russia deal with the consequences of the damage as it will further require massive investments from Russia.
I'm particularly curious what would happen to Ukraine's external debt if Russia absorbed entire Ukraine (unlikely I think)? Would EU transfer the debt onto new landlord (Russia) and use it as an excuse never to return frozen Russian assets? Just a food for thought.
Russia is going to take all of Ukraine. They have to.
Russia has no choice in the matter. The United States lies (see Minsk II). Zelinsky is now an illegitimate leader. Neither can be trusted. So, with whom is Russia supposed to negotiate a meaningful peace with -- a liar or a liar, a professional grifter and moocher, and a despot? Not much of a choice.
If Russia does not take all of the Ukraine the United States will declare victory, having moved NATO borders that much closer to Russia. Russia will never hear the end of it. The proxy war will never end.
If Russia takes all of Ukraine, then all that aid, all those loans, all that "investment" will be lost. Who is the United States, its vassal states, and companies like Blackrock, supposed to see about getting their money back? Who are they supposed to collect from? Not Russia. Russia will demand the immediate return of their seized assets, $350-billion dollars, plus interest. And even then, Russia would be completely justified with telling the West to "Buzz off."
The human cost is irrelevant.
Over 6 million refugees are reported as having fled Ukraine, and are recorded in places all across Europe. An estimated 8 million others had been displaced within the country by late May 2022. " Thousands of these refugees are Ukrainian men, of military age.
Over 1-million Ukrainian refugees have emigrated to Russia.
Some estimates of all those who have fled Ukraine since the start of the SMO amount to 40-percent of the population of Ukraine. Imagine if the United States lost 40-percent of its population. Ukraine is a failed state. Always was.
"One has to wonder, at what point will the cost of repairing Ukraine outweight the potential benefits. " (BearInMind)
This IS NEVER the calculus of war. It is always HUBRIS instigated/propagated on different levels .... eventually leading to this. VVP "knows" this and SEEMS to have no intention of crossing THE RED LINE of THE LIE getting the better of him. It is always "some elite" that insinuates that war is better than peace in order to ....... VVP SEEMS to have a sense of "peace is better than war, but if you want to fight over it I put all my chips in".
THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ONLY - THE ONE AND ONLY INCARNATION OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FOREVER AND EVER - AMEN HALLELU-YAH - SOLI DEO GLORIA!
What we really need are the nukes to start flying just before the election. Maybe even on the same day as the election. I am not hastening the end. I'm just asking the devil to catch up.
curious - how real are the rumors (?) of attack on US carrier ship by Ansarullah? some RU bloggers write of them 'suddenly finding' some tech in desert lands as asymmetric responses to latest NATO escalations..
One thing's for sure is that is definitely one of the asymmetric escalatory measures Russia could take if it really wants to show the West its red lines. Providing Houthis with an ability to hit U.S. ships would be game over for the U.S. empire and is likely one of the reasons Biden's admin is terrified.
As for the rumors, I've been following them also and so far it's claimed that the Eisenhower commander showed videos of the ship being fine afterwards, while other rumors claim a plane on the deck was hit/destroyed and they're trying to cover it up.
True enough, but carriers don't generally travel alone, they have a defensive shield composed of missile cruisers and frigates. You'd have to launch a pretty big swarm for anything significant to get through.
The red team (Iran) sunk the blue fleet, including the aircraft carrier, in this US war game. That was before the advent of cheap drones too. And Iran has since demonstrated against Israel that a bunch of cheap drones makes a very effective screen for the more powerful missiles.
No they aren't, but the country is split 3 ways. Also the peace agreement with KSA is still languishing. Things could easily blow up with a little help from our friends (USUK).
That’s a great point about Russia providing aid to the Houthis. Was just mentioning in another comment how badly this news about the EWS Radar & Permission to attack has rattled me. I suppose another event that could rattle NATO would be for a country like Turkey to walk away. Not saying that’s going to happen but perhaps if a nation like Turkey fears the worst (Nuke Armageddon) might motivate them to take unprecedented action.
The people you have written about scare me Simp. Like Russia, I fear this is every bit as existential to them too. It’s also quite clear the mega elites are so far gone (out of touch) they have become dangerous. That is confirmed by the system of government they lord over. I think it was in “Your Last Dance of Vampire Ball” that you explained how this happened. It makes a lot sense of sense. You read about Xi living his life in a cave. Contrast that to an elite in in the West. There’s no one near power even close to having that kind of adversity in their lives.
I think Russia needs to shock them somehow. I understand it’s easier said than done and extremely risky. But this war has been over long ago and yet they continue to fight it. Another sign just how existential it really happens to be.
Turkey is building the new artillery shell factory in Mesquite, Texas. Turkey and Erdoğan work for their own narrow interests. They still service Israel, despite all their bluster and the genocide going on in Palestine. Erdoğan's son-in-law owns the shipping company that sends oil from Ceyhan Turkey to Haifa Israel. They sold a large number of drones to Ukraine until the Bayraktar drones no longer worked. The Erdoğan family owns the Bayraktar drone factory.,
Erdoğan is strictly bad news. Russia saved his butt in June 2016 when the US sponsored a coup attempt and Russia warned him just in time. A normal leader would have gratitude, but Erdoğan is some sort of psychopath. The strategic problem for Turkey is that the US has the Gulenist movement as the alternative to Erdoğan, but an optimist can hope that problem is going away. Aside from 100,000 Gulenists being arrested in 2016, the Ukraine serves as a wake-up call. Some Turks are saying they don't want to be the next Ukraine.
"Russia saved his butt in June 2016 when the US sponsored a coup attempt and Russia warned him just in time. A normal leader would have gratitude, but Erdoğan is some sort of psychopath"
Once you buy in to the my God is greater than your God answer to all questions, then you must accept that your God persuaded Putin to save you.
Religion is never tempered by rationality nor skepticism.
Well Russia could supply Ansarillah with a few export version Oniks antiship missiles. Considering the ties being forged between Islamic nations in the Middle East region, logistics would not be difficult Russia to Iran through Saudi Arabia to Yemen. It must be considered, the Saudis were only involved in a civil war in Yemen, but Yemen is unified on its defiance of the west in support of the Palestinians.
If there is to be a major escalation against Yemen, air strikes alone will be useless against a nation that has endured the same for the past 10 years. So boots on the ground would be the only option against a country as mountainous as Afghanistan that would not be isolated in a region that is hypocritically "friendly" to the west. So it would probably make Afghanistan look like a cake walk. There are all bad options for the west, as is, they are living in a glass house throwing stones and displaying bluster when they should be more Macavalian.
Recall 2006 when Hezbollah hit that zioscum Arleigh Burke destroyer. If memory serves me correctly, it was a Chinese manufactured Silkworm AS missile that made it to target. Pretty low tech those years. I'm sure there's far better gear itching for targets.
I've seen two photos claiming to be the Eisenhower on fire. One was an obvious AI graphic with the superstructure smack in the middle of the ship...lol, the other was a photo of the Bonhomme Richard which caught fire in port back in 2020.
I suspect the Eisenhower was hit but sustained only minor damage. The fake news and photos are so ridiculous they seem like a psyop to discredit the idea that the ship was hit at all, which of course is super embarrassing if it did happen.
Whenever some sketchy website or the MSM offers up a photo of some alleged event I try to run it down, and about half the time it's fake. Best one so far was when Ansar Allah hit a tanker and they couldn't get a photo, so they ran one of a bulk carrier instead. That was MSM, but I forget who. I don't document any of this. What's the point? People will believe what they want to believe.
"a video which I won’t post showing a Russian scuba diver being eliminated by Ukrainian drones"
Simplicius, we want you to be as neutral as possible. So when you post those ukrop losses, also post the Russian losses. Then we can clearly observe how Russians and ukrops perform in battlefield.
The West/NATO keeps making these tough guy moves under the apparent notion that the Russian can't counter. We can put weapons in Ukraine, nya nya nya nya nya watcha gonna do about it?
Hmmm. Maybe give anti-ship missiles to Iran, the Houthis, Hezbollah could use some shiny toys.
Hell of a brain trust in London/DC/Brussels. Totally fooked.
Ukraine is a battle, U.S. Hegemony is the war. And Russia is winning both. Outside observers, with no skin in the game, can render whatever theory they can muster, but that is my 1913 U.S. Federal Reserve Note's worth.
The USS Eisenhower is old, in service since 1977. In late 2023, when both the USS Gerald Ford (in service since 2017) and the USS Eisenhower were in the Mideast, someone noted that the USS Eisenhower could be sacrificed intentionally - but not the USS Ford, and that it would be a "tell" if the USS Eisenhower were to be put in harm's way as a "tripwire."
There are some things that just don't make sense to me, like why doesn't Iran, let alone Russia, provide air defense missiles--state of the art shoulder-fired and SAMs--to Hezbollah, Syria and the Houthis? It just baffles me. Their stuff is not far behind the Russian's and helicopters are sitting ducks for that stuff. Low flying fighter aircraft are vulnerable too.
Of course they do. Where better to test your battle gear than in combat? You can bet that Hezbollah and Houti have an assortment of exotic systems to try out, donated by Russia, China, north Korea, Iran etc. It seems as though Houti and Hezbollah are clearint out their older stocks first.
Oh, they do give them some of that, but you never give your allies your best stuff, far too dangerous.
Do you remember that bit in David Lean's "Lawrence of Arabia"? The British gave the anti-Turkish Arabs gold, small arms, ammunition and explosives but not artillery and certainly not aircraft. That would have made them independent.
I'm not sure the explanations wash. I don't see manned aircraft--helicopters or low flying fighter planes--getting knocked out of the sky. The air strikes are devastating. Why, if they've got this stuff, aren't they using it effectively? Still don't understand it.
The only problem I see with this scenario is that Z's forces do not have the expertise to operate the sophisticated equipment required to deliver the missiles - so it would be virtually impossible for them to go rogue in this area. However, the point that Simplicius makes about the covert assistance of the CIA in this matter bears some consideration. As these facilities are stationery, I would think that Z already has the capability to target them from existing ISR data. And if the missile launchers are operated by American mercs under orders of Z's forces, then I suppose it would be possible (though I question that said mercs would actually be under his orders, but rather operating more covertly). At any rate, the message delivered by these strikes is pretty clear - we see you and we can reach you.
Targeting can only be done by the US providing the coordinates. Then they playing a manipulating game , it is not us maybe the rouge CIA. The typical leapfrogging bs. and until the Russians put they foot down it will continue . Time to grow some balls and take out all the lurking targeting drones . Let the manipulators think about an escalation . How would that effect the moral of the Ukrainians , if they see that the big brother is forced to chicken out ? Strategic patience is important , but so is the demonstration of the bony hammer of the fist .
One thing I am not clear on is the extent to which longer range weapons rely on integrated western systems and are operated by western military personnel. For example does the use of ATCMs require AWACs or satellite guidance. It is one thing to say a Ukrainian presses a button on a dashboard somewhere, but if that missile cannot be targetted or guided withot NATO [volunteer??] forces then really that is a NATO missile. If I have got this right then this is really behind the "ban". In fact Ukraine simply cannot use these weapons and so what we are really seeing is NATO publically stating its own red lines. Which begs the question of how an early warning radar came to be hit and with what. However I think Russia's strong response to the threat of such weapons was grounded in the reality that Russia was not going to allow NATO to pretend these were Ukrainian strikes and that if NATO wants war then this is the way to get it.
I would underline Victor's point that an attack on the OTH radar site requires NATO experts from start to finish, except for this: A Russian commentator wrote that the recovered fragments are believed to have come from a particular model of short-range drone. If that's correct, then the radar was hit by a small team of infiltrators.
Common tactic of the U.S.: the CIA collaborates on extracurricular escalatory /projects/ of which the Executive Branch knows nothing--spitballin' to see what the reaction will be. The better the /plausible deniability/ that way.
Well, when you put it like that
Lt. General Jing Jien-feng is quoted in "Global Times" as saying something to that effect in Singapore after he met w/ Lloyd Austin
Smoked Austin's eyebrows
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202406/1313443.shtml
China clearly and concisely - our army will stand side by side with Russia
Source: | Official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China Wu Qian..
"The Chinese army is ready, together with the Russian army, to defend justice in the world" - the Chinese Ministry of Defense declared very clearly at the moment. Wu Qian, the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, said this with an emphasis on a clear message to the increasingly furious representatives of the NATO alliance. It is no coincidence that the statement comes at a time when the West is increasingly considering attacking the territory of the Russian Federation.
According to http://eadaily.com, "The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) is ready to strengthen strategic ties with the Russian armed forces and cooperate with them in the defense of international justice. Wu Qian, the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, said this at a briefing, RIA Novosti reports.
No one will pick Moscow's nose!
"The Chinese armed forces are ready to cooperate with the Russian military to fully implement the important consensus reached by the heads of the two states in order to further strengthen strategic communication and coordination, deepen mutual trust in the military sphere, and jointly implement the Global Security Initiative. Wu Qian said.
According to a Chinese military department official, PLA military personnel are ready to "advocate international justice and impartiality" together with their Russian counterparts, as well as make every effort to ensure international and regional security.
It appears Ukraine's ability to produce electricity is just about gone, most everything will need to be imported from the EU moving forward?
Remember, it was not that long ago that Ursula the lyin' queen was boasting about how much electricity the EU was going to import from Ukraine.
That might not be a lie. They said "GDP", not "GDP PPP". GDP is a fake metric, a Ponzi scheme measurement where printing money or increasing debt increases your GDP. Given the billions shoveled into the Kiev regime by the US and its vassals it could well be that the GDP in 2024 really has grown by 3.8%.
Pump in enough Yankee dollars and they might reach that, without any economic activity whatsoever.
We've been hearing about the imminent collapse of the dollar since before I was a kitten.
Russia hit a massive underground LNG storage facility in western Ukraine, too, a repository from which Poland & Germany drew a percentage of its LNG allotment. Europe losing its juice.
ooooooh - that must have been one heck of a fireball!!!!! :-)
Including electricity. Now is the perfect time for the IMF and the Little Dictator Zelinsky to mandate the use of bitcoin in Ukraine.
LOL! great idea-- yup 🤣🤣
Absolutely nobody who actually matters cares.
Ukraine is just a platform from which to launch PGMs at Russia.
Whether it has electricity is irrelevant.
And thanks to the geniuses in the Kremlin, who basically refuses to seriously lift a finger for two years to move the front line as far West as possible, the real war is now starting at their border.
Precisely what the SMO was supposed to prevent...
I guess you dont get the move. Let them hit russia in order to hit back real bad. What matters is the long term plan where Nato will remained as the aggressor and flipflop the whole narrative.
I have in fact considered that.
The Kharkov "offensive" may have been such a bait. What happened:
1) Limited incursion with very small forces, capture some villages
2) Ukraine sends 50K there with lots of equipment
3) The equipment is systematically destroyed while Russia suffers essentially no losses because all its artillery is on the other side of the border
4) Thus Ukraine faces a choice -- be very quickly attrited to nothing in this trap, or allow Kharkov to be sieged.
5) NATO starts open strikes on Russia in order to prevent that
6) Russia can hit back.
The problem is that this is giving way too much to the Kremlin for planning more than two moves ahead, something that there is absolutely no evidence they are capable of based on their performance all these years.
And, most importantly, I am not seeing Russia hitting back once it was openly attacked, which is already ongoing for 36 hours.
" And, most importantly, I am not seeing Russia hitting back once it was openly attacked, which is already ongoing for 36 hours."
Here is the BIG FALLACY .... you - like everyone else participating in this sort of game - are guessing based on what you "see" - made visible on purpose or surfacing through the cracks - which is but a minuscule part of THE BIG PICTURE.
It's all guessing, no matter what amount of information/ computer systems/ reconnaissance capabilities you have. Operating based on visibility and TRUTH is the ONLY option available and "visibility" has never been higher on any level, SO those operating closest to THE TRUTH wil EVENTUALLY be "victorious" no matter how long it takes and how much it "costs' but one thing is sure ....
THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ONLY - THE ONE AND ONLY INCARNATION OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FOREVER AND EVER - AMEN HALLELU-YAH - SOLI DEO GLORIA!
I almost gave your comment a 'like', until I got to the last paragraph when the psycho babble started.
Actually you DID - I have notification prove - before you changed your mind ....
THE TRUTH doesn't care about "likes" as THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN "likes" always the latest FAD - read LIE - in "town" ... since THE SERPENT, EVE AND ADAM IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN ... and here we are thousands of years later and man's mind is more blinded than ever ... exactly as PROPHESIED .... and THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN - ALL disciples letting their mind being locked up in PLATO'S MENTAL PRISON/LIE CAVE - is going to continue to LIE till the very END and EVE is going to encourage the promotion of THE LIE pretending to "know to discern between `good and evil`" ... HELL IS WAITING FOR ALL THOSE REFUSING THE OFFER OF SALVATION!
The great moron has absolutely no interest in the truth. He merely types the talking points delivered to his cubicle.
You are harming yourself considering others "morons", we are all "morons" in the eyes of GOD ALMIGHTY and admitting it is the ONLY way out of the madness. It's hard I know but there is NO ALTERNATIVE!
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Matt 7, 1-5
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
Matt 7, 7-8
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Matt 7, 15-20
SOLI DEO GLORIA!
Check back in a couple of days. Russia does not ignore assaults on the motherland. "no evidence they are capable of based on their performance all these years." Where is that coming from. or is it just a coping vent ?
1) It has definitely ignored them for the last 60+ hours. Including the first ATACMS on Belgorod today
2) Should we understand it that Crimea is not pat of the "motherland" given that it has been under ever escalating attacks for nearly a year now?
3) Regardind the past performance of the Kremlin -- do you realize that when Putin took power on the last day of 1999, Ukraine was not a security issue for Russia, Banderites were a fringe minority, everyone spoke Russian, etc.? Under whose watch was it transformed into what it is inow?
You are either a troll or incapable of seeing that Russia is decisively winning this proxy war following their own successful strategy.
Emotional escalation does not serve Russia.
Drawing AmeriNATO into close proximity to near the Russian border & existing line of contact benefits Russia and is problematic for AmeriNATO.
Russia is going to occupy all or most of Ukraine by the time this is over.
Why fight & destroy right across Ukraine? Then have to rebuild all of it.
Russia does not want or plan to fight in Kharkov, Dnipro, Odessa, Kiev or Zaporizhia- but does plan to absorb these cities & regions into the Russian Federation.
To do this with minimum damage Russia needs to destroy the AmeriNATO/Ukro military where they are now.
Which they are very successfully doing.
But of course your emotions & exceptionalism know better than the Russians!
Please. If Russia wants to hit, it will do so, with justification to be manufactured as convenient at the moment.
Something that really should have been done 2 years ago.
Nobody in Kiev or Brussels cares.
The reason we are never alone is due to the fact governments are controlled by Schizophrenics. It's really that simple!
Nope, not Schizophrenics, Psychopaths.
Although once they gain political power they are more correctly known as Pathocrats.
You should check out Harrison Koehli's Substack "Political Ponerology"
https://ponerology.substack.com/
His jumping off point is the book of the same name by the Polish psychologist Andrew M. Lobaczewski. It describes the descent into evil and incompetence that happens when psychopaths and other people of abnormal psychology are allowed to obtain power.
Nope. Power mad Schizophrenics, Psychopaths, Sociopaths, Lions, Tigers, and Bears. Oh, my!
I asked my local representative to publish their psychopath test after they'd 'diagnosed' Putin as a psychopathic mass murder in a private letter to me, as reason to not sign a Stop The War petition at that time signed by a dozen or so Labour MPs.
I based my request on the insights given to us in Lobaczewski's "Political Ponerology" and many other similar resources, as campaigning tool to compare themselves to other candidates who would refuse.
Still waiting for a reply.
Have you heard of "The Goldwater Rule"? Basically, it states that psychiatrists and psychologists may not offer a diagnosis of someone they have never met. It came about after a magazine surveyed a bunch of psychiatrists about the psychological state of Barry Goldwater who ran for president in 1964.
It's a solid rule and I don't see why it shouldn't apply to Putin as well.
ANYONE who takes advice from the gospel of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN/ MAKE BELIEVE/ MONEY/ HALF-TRUTHS/ LIES no matter how clever it sounds _ and it will always sound very clever (in order to deceive, most of the time "inadvertently") ... is operating out of PLATO'S MENTAL PRISON CAVE created by the same gospel of DECEPTION!
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Matt 7, 1-4
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16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matt 7, 16-20
THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ONLY - THE ONE AND ONLY INCARNATION OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FOREVER AND EVER - AMEN HALLELU-YAH - SOLI DEO GLORIA!
Buh-but-but the rules-based-international-order--!!
It accords the hegemon the right to diagnose from afar, not to mention the redoubtable insight
I'd class them more as Sociopaths than Psychopaths.
Psychopaths.
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/the-long-road-of-degeneration
You can’t print more people. Ukraine suspended elections. Biden regime trying to throw Trump in jail. EU censoring as much as possible and attacking citizens for being against rapefugees. Such sacred beautiful democracy!
"You can’t print more people."
Sure you can. Doesn't necessarily change the war's outcome. But that could change, too.
During the Viet Nam war all of North Viet Nam ceased to exist with each casualty report. That many North Vietnamese died.
The Pentagon is doing pulling the same crap with Ukraine. For every Ukrainian soldier killed ten mercenaries (US and the boots of its vassal state) show up inside Ukraine.
The last video I saw showed a French Legionnaire lying dead on the ground, wearing a Velcro Ukrainian flag, along with a French flag on their uniform. His head rather neatly blown off.
So it's just the drip drip drip of the final collapse of Ukraine. Waiting for the mass surrenders to begin. That's the bellwether of the end. Morale has to be terrible on the Ukrainian side at this point. What good news have they heard lately?
All the brinkmanship by the West can't be interpreted in any other way but the collapse is near. Otherwise, why bother? They're hoping to negotiate their way out of this.
They need an off-ramp for sure. Admitting humiliating defeat is not something they are capable off.
And so they have put themselves in this situation where the brain knows it’s over but the body wants to keep going.
"They need an off-ramp for sure. Admitting humiliating defeat is not something they are capable off."
I didn't see any humiliation as Afghans were falling to their deaths from the wheel wells of C-5 Galaxies fleeing the country.
True, but the level of political investment in Ukraine is unprecedented. EU and NATO have made it their number one objective to prevent Russian victory.
"EU and NATO have made it their number one objective to prevent Russian victory."
Seems so. Yes, but at what cost?
The cost associated with their "investment" is commonly referred to as "until the last Ukrainian". It's colossal. I'm not just talking about manpower losses, but split families, widows. None of that is concerning our EU leaders.
In addition to that we have irrepairable, in the short term at least, damage to power generators and infrastructure. The damage is in hundreds of billions.
One has to wonder, at what point will the cost of repairing Ukraine outweight the potential benefits. I think eventually EU will conclude, that they are better off letting Russia deal with the consequences of the damage as it will further require massive investments from Russia.
I'm particularly curious what would happen to Ukraine's external debt if Russia absorbed entire Ukraine (unlikely I think)? Would EU transfer the debt onto new landlord (Russia) and use it as an excuse never to return frozen Russian assets? Just a food for thought.
Russia is going to take all of Ukraine. They have to.
Russia has no choice in the matter. The United States lies (see Minsk II). Zelinsky is now an illegitimate leader. Neither can be trusted. So, with whom is Russia supposed to negotiate a meaningful peace with -- a liar or a liar, a professional grifter and moocher, and a despot? Not much of a choice.
If Russia does not take all of the Ukraine the United States will declare victory, having moved NATO borders that much closer to Russia. Russia will never hear the end of it. The proxy war will never end.
If Russia takes all of Ukraine, then all that aid, all those loans, all that "investment" will be lost. Who is the United States, its vassal states, and companies like Blackrock, supposed to see about getting their money back? Who are they supposed to collect from? Not Russia. Russia will demand the immediate return of their seized assets, $350-billion dollars, plus interest. And even then, Russia would be completely justified with telling the West to "Buzz off."
The human cost is irrelevant.
Over 6 million refugees are reported as having fled Ukraine, and are recorded in places all across Europe. An estimated 8 million others had been displaced within the country by late May 2022. " Thousands of these refugees are Ukrainian men, of military age.
Over 1-million Ukrainian refugees have emigrated to Russia.
Some estimates of all those who have fled Ukraine since the start of the SMO amount to 40-percent of the population of Ukraine. Imagine if the United States lost 40-percent of its population. Ukraine is a failed state. Always was.
"One has to wonder, at what point will the cost of repairing Ukraine outweight the potential benefits. " (BearInMind)
This IS NEVER the calculus of war. It is always HUBRIS instigated/propagated on different levels .... eventually leading to this. VVP "knows" this and SEEMS to have no intention of crossing THE RED LINE of THE LIE getting the better of him. It is always "some elite" that insinuates that war is better than peace in order to ....... VVP SEEMS to have a sense of "peace is better than war, but if you want to fight over it I put all my chips in".
THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ONLY - THE ONE AND ONLY INCARNATION OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND SHEPHERD AND SAVIOUR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FOREVER AND EVER - AMEN HALLELU-YAH - SOLI DEO GLORIA!
Sunk-Cost knows neither shame nor humiliation
What we really need are the nukes to start flying just before the election. Maybe even on the same day as the election. I am not hastening the end. I'm just asking the devil to catch up.
curious - how real are the rumors (?) of attack on US carrier ship by Ansarullah? some RU bloggers write of them 'suddenly finding' some tech in desert lands as asymmetric responses to latest NATO escalations..
One thing's for sure is that is definitely one of the asymmetric escalatory measures Russia could take if it really wants to show the West its red lines. Providing Houthis with an ability to hit U.S. ships would be game over for the U.S. empire and is likely one of the reasons Biden's admin is terrified.
As for the rumors, I've been following them also and so far it's claimed that the Eisenhower commander showed videos of the ship being fine afterwards, while other rumors claim a plane on the deck was hit/destroyed and they're trying to cover it up.
There's no telling for now though.
The Eisenhower is as lumberingly large a non-nimble target as Swedish Blimps--er, AWACS--will be over Ukraine's skies
True enough, but carriers don't generally travel alone, they have a defensive shield composed of missile cruisers and frigates. You'd have to launch a pretty big swarm for anything significant to get through.
Unless you didn't see what's coming in time to (try) stop it.
So, you sink the shield.
Doesn't really matter. With the arrival of Kinzhal missiles "Time to target" has decreased significantly.
True, but if you do it is devastating.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
The red team (Iran) sunk the blue fleet, including the aircraft carrier, in this US war game. That was before the advent of cheap drones too. And Iran has since demonstrated against Israel that a bunch of cheap drones makes a very effective screen for the more powerful missiles.
.... and NO computer game plan is going to resemble REALITY!
You obviously never played Harpoon.
Dang this guy is right. Pack up the war games, training exercises and simulations guess they're all obsolete now.
The poseidon changes all that. No swarm needed.
To paraphrase Stalin, how many Poseidons does Ansar Allah have?
It seems logical but would the Russians risk their relationship with RSA and UAE? It would certainly be a bold move.
I could be wrong but I don't believe the Houthis are currently in conflict with either KSA or UAE.
No they aren't, but the country is split 3 ways. Also the peace agreement with KSA is still languishing. Things could easily blow up with a little help from our friends (USUK).
Saudi scum are still attacking Yemeni locations.
"Rebel scum!" Saw a line, too close to a Star Wars script, to avoid. Sorry.
That’s a great point about Russia providing aid to the Houthis. Was just mentioning in another comment how badly this news about the EWS Radar & Permission to attack has rattled me. I suppose another event that could rattle NATO would be for a country like Turkey to walk away. Not saying that’s going to happen but perhaps if a nation like Turkey fears the worst (Nuke Armageddon) might motivate them to take unprecedented action.
The people you have written about scare me Simp. Like Russia, I fear this is every bit as existential to them too. It’s also quite clear the mega elites are so far gone (out of touch) they have become dangerous. That is confirmed by the system of government they lord over. I think it was in “Your Last Dance of Vampire Ball” that you explained how this happened. It makes a lot sense of sense. You read about Xi living his life in a cave. Contrast that to an elite in in the West. There’s no one near power even close to having that kind of adversity in their lives.
I think Russia needs to shock them somehow. I understand it’s easier said than done and extremely risky. But this war has been over long ago and yet they continue to fight it. Another sign just how existential it really happens to be.
Turkey is building the new artillery shell factory in Mesquite, Texas. Turkey and Erdoğan work for their own narrow interests. They still service Israel, despite all their bluster and the genocide going on in Palestine. Erdoğan's son-in-law owns the shipping company that sends oil from Ceyhan Turkey to Haifa Israel. They sold a large number of drones to Ukraine until the Bayraktar drones no longer worked. The Erdoğan family owns the Bayraktar drone factory.,
Erdoğan is strictly bad news. Russia saved his butt in June 2016 when the US sponsored a coup attempt and Russia warned him just in time. A normal leader would have gratitude, but Erdoğan is some sort of psychopath. The strategic problem for Turkey is that the US has the Gulenist movement as the alternative to Erdoğan, but an optimist can hope that problem is going away. Aside from 100,000 Gulenists being arrested in 2016, the Ukraine serves as a wake-up call. Some Turks are saying they don't want to be the next Ukraine.
Good-paying jobs for hardworking Americans--err, Turks--@ the shell factory in Mesquite, Texas--!
And where, precisely, are the raw materials sourced for these "American made" metal shells packed with explosives?
"Russia saved his butt in June 2016 when the US sponsored a coup attempt and Russia warned him just in time. A normal leader would have gratitude, but Erdoğan is some sort of psychopath"
Once you buy in to the my God is greater than your God answer to all questions, then you must accept that your God persuaded Putin to save you.
Religion is never tempered by rationality nor skepticism.
See here for details...
https://x.com/alealamiah/status/1796952904705736946
That video is not conclusive proof. Poor quality and no easy identification of what ship it is. But I hope it's genuine.
That's the Bonhomme Richard that caught fire in port in 2020.
Doesn't even look like the Eisenhower.
LOL. You might have nailed it.
That's old footage from 7/13/2020... Chip
Are there two Chips? I only saw one.
Well Russia could supply Ansarillah with a few export version Oniks antiship missiles. Considering the ties being forged between Islamic nations in the Middle East region, logistics would not be difficult Russia to Iran through Saudi Arabia to Yemen. It must be considered, the Saudis were only involved in a civil war in Yemen, but Yemen is unified on its defiance of the west in support of the Palestinians.
If there is to be a major escalation against Yemen, air strikes alone will be useless against a nation that has endured the same for the past 10 years. So boots on the ground would be the only option against a country as mountainous as Afghanistan that would not be isolated in a region that is hypocritically "friendly" to the west. So it would probably make Afghanistan look like a cake walk. There are all bad options for the west, as is, they are living in a glass house throwing stones and displaying bluster when they should be more Macavalian.
Recall 2006 when Hezbollah hit that zioscum Arleigh Burke destroyer. If memory serves me correctly, it was a Chinese manufactured Silkworm AS missile that made it to target. Pretty low tech those years. I'm sure there's far better gear itching for targets.
I've seen two photos claiming to be the Eisenhower on fire. One was an obvious AI graphic with the superstructure smack in the middle of the ship...lol, the other was a photo of the Bonhomme Richard which caught fire in port back in 2020.
I suspect the Eisenhower was hit but sustained only minor damage. The fake news and photos are so ridiculous they seem like a psyop to discredit the idea that the ship was hit at all, which of course is super embarrassing if it did happen.
Whenever some sketchy website or the MSM offers up a photo of some alleged event I try to run it down, and about half the time it's fake. Best one so far was when Ansar Allah hit a tanker and they couldn't get a photo, so they ran one of a bulk carrier instead. That was MSM, but I forget who. I don't document any of this. What's the point? People will believe what they want to believe.
There's a Biden Administration? I thought George Soros' son, Alexander, had taken over.
The only thing "Sleepy" Joe Biden is terrified of is the White House running out of ice cream.
Time to reactivate some World War II battleships. [sarcasm]
I recently saw pictures and video of the USS New Jersey in drydock at a Philadelphia shipyard. My God! The treasure this country has spent on war.
"a video which I won’t post showing a Russian scuba diver being eliminated by Ukrainian drones"
Simplicius, we want you to be as neutral as possible. So when you post those ukrop losses, also post the Russian losses. Then we can clearly observe how Russians and ukrops perform in battlefield.
Did you stop to think it might not be about that? It might be horribly gruesome? Think
The West/NATO keeps making these tough guy moves under the apparent notion that the Russian can't counter. We can put weapons in Ukraine, nya nya nya nya nya watcha gonna do about it?
Hmmm. Maybe give anti-ship missiles to Iran, the Houthis, Hezbollah could use some shiny toys.
Hell of a brain trust in London/DC/Brussels. Totally fooked.
Ukraine is a battle, U.S. Hegemony is the war. And Russia is winning both. Outside observers, with no skin in the game, can render whatever theory they can muster, but that is my 1913 U.S. Federal Reserve Note's worth.
That is very well said, Kam.
The USS Eisenhower is old, in service since 1977. In late 2023, when both the USS Gerald Ford (in service since 2017) and the USS Eisenhower were in the Mideast, someone noted that the USS Eisenhower could be sacrificed intentionally - but not the USS Ford, and that it would be a "tell" if the USS Eisenhower were to be put in harm's way as a "tripwire."
Apparently this video was taken 2 months prior or something.
A few more hits like that , and they start running just like from Afghanistan . They can only fight with other countries army .
There are some things that just don't make sense to me, like why doesn't Iran, let alone Russia, provide air defense missiles--state of the art shoulder-fired and SAMs--to Hezbollah, Syria and the Houthis? It just baffles me. Their stuff is not far behind the Russian's and helicopters are sitting ducks for that stuff. Low flying fighter aircraft are vulnerable too.
Of course they do. Where better to test your battle gear than in combat? You can bet that Hezbollah and Houti have an assortment of exotic systems to try out, donated by Russia, China, north Korea, Iran etc. It seems as though Houti and Hezbollah are clearint out their older stocks first.
The Palestinians have SAMS, I watched a video y'day where they targetted and appeared to hit a ZioNAZI chopper.
As for Hezbollah, they have them for sure, but are holding back for the big event.
Oh, they do give them some of that, but you never give your allies your best stuff, far too dangerous.
Do you remember that bit in David Lean's "Lawrence of Arabia"? The British gave the anti-Turkish Arabs gold, small arms, ammunition and explosives but not artillery and certainly not aircraft. That would have made them independent.
I'm not sure the explanations wash. I don't see manned aircraft--helicopters or low flying fighter planes--getting knocked out of the sky. The air strikes are devastating. Why, if they've got this stuff, aren't they using it effectively? Still don't understand it.
Here you go..
https://x.com/alealamiah/status/1796952904705736946
Old footage from 2020...
Plenty could be achieved by Russia simply by transferring data and software, no weapons or hardware upgrades needed.
LLM-derived breakdowns and summaries of that post by Simplicius The Thinker:
https://open.substack.com/pub/complexiathesinker/p/llm-over-sitrep-6124-ukraines-latest
"Thus, to put pressure on Biden, Zelensky went a bit rogue"
Well know soon enough. If he is attacking OTH radar in spite of US demands he is a dead man walking
The only problem I see with this scenario is that Z's forces do not have the expertise to operate the sophisticated equipment required to deliver the missiles - so it would be virtually impossible for them to go rogue in this area. However, the point that Simplicius makes about the covert assistance of the CIA in this matter bears some consideration. As these facilities are stationery, I would think that Z already has the capability to target them from existing ISR data. And if the missile launchers are operated by American mercs under orders of Z's forces, then I suppose it would be possible (though I question that said mercs would actually be under his orders, but rather operating more covertly). At any rate, the message delivered by these strikes is pretty clear - we see you and we can reach you.
Interesting times.
I doubt Zelinsky even gets to choose his own pyjamas let alone call the shots with any actual military operations.
Targeting can only be done by the US providing the coordinates. Then they playing a manipulating game , it is not us maybe the rouge CIA. The typical leapfrogging bs. and until the Russians put they foot down it will continue . Time to grow some balls and take out all the lurking targeting drones . Let the manipulators think about an escalation . How would that effect the moral of the Ukrainians , if they see that the big brother is forced to chicken out ? Strategic patience is important , but so is the demonstration of the bony hammer of the fist .
One thing I am not clear on is the extent to which longer range weapons rely on integrated western systems and are operated by western military personnel. For example does the use of ATCMs require AWACs or satellite guidance. It is one thing to say a Ukrainian presses a button on a dashboard somewhere, but if that missile cannot be targetted or guided withot NATO [volunteer??] forces then really that is a NATO missile. If I have got this right then this is really behind the "ban". In fact Ukraine simply cannot use these weapons and so what we are really seeing is NATO publically stating its own red lines. Which begs the question of how an early warning radar came to be hit and with what. However I think Russia's strong response to the threat of such weapons was grounded in the reality that Russia was not going to allow NATO to pretend these were Ukrainian strikes and that if NATO wants war then this is the way to get it.
I understand that ATACMS requires satellite guidance.
It should be obvious by now that Russia, not the West, is loathe to escalate and that all its red lines are so much bluster.
I would underline Victor's point that an attack on the OTH radar site requires NATO experts from start to finish, except for this: A Russian commentator wrote that the recovered fragments are believed to have come from a particular model of short-range drone. If that's correct, then the radar was hit by a small team of infiltrators.
Common tactic of the U.S.: the CIA collaborates on extracurricular escalatory /projects/ of which the Executive Branch knows nothing--spitballin' to see what the reaction will be. The better the /plausible deniability/ that way.
It's not an OTH radar, it is a ballistic missile one. Although the OTH radar in Mordovia was attacked too, back in April.
And it isn't Zelensky attacking it, NATO is.
Here is the much more realistic interpretation:
1) The US tested Russian resolve by attacking the early warning radar.
2) The Russian resolve was found lacking once again
3) The US had its hands untied to being direct attacks into Russia.