Maybe yes, maybe no. Marrack Garland? Alexando Mayorkis? In charge of investigation? Wouldn't a proper investigation begin prominently with Biden's statement to donors about "putting Trump in a bullseye?" Was the unguarded statement an expression of dementia by someone with motive as well as the possibility of future gain. Biden's main handler, Barack Obama, seems to be all over this matter. Justice Dept, FBI, Homeland Security all Pro-Democratic Party, ultra-Zionist agencies. Is Biden versus Trump best understood as conflict between Zionist factions?
When a sniper low-crawling across a roof fires a rifle @ you & hits a pane of glass near your head--but not your head--we don't call it an assassination attempt, because the bullet hit the pane of glass & missed your head. In that case, we call it "an incident."
Could be…The photo of the missing bullet is for sure another bullet than that who buzzed his ear. The trajectory is 2 inches lower than the upper part of his both ears.
Rep. Bennie Thompson [D-MS], the leader of Nancy Antoinette's now-defunct J6 Select Committee, introduced legislation in April 2024 to deny Secret Service protection for DJT "upon conviction."
IIRC Chuck Schumer said months ago something that was practically throwing out the idea of assassination right in the open, too. I can't recall the exact statement off the top of my head, but it is probably not too difficult to find. I think Greenwald may have reported on it at the time. RFK was also denied Secret Service protection, and had a near assassination attempt that was thwarted before it got as far as Trump's did with actual bullets flying past him.
A CIA director once said how the NED now does openly for propaganda what they used to have to do covertly. Now, it seems assassinations are done openly, or most optimistically they are allowed to happen through negligence and the media creating the circumstances in which it's acceptable and someone is likely to do it. Very nice brain you have there, it'd be a shame if someone put a bullet through it.
National Endowment of Democracy, which is nothing but a front for the CIA in all but name. It was expelled from Russia and rightly so. Didn't Schume say something like "don't screw with the intel agency as they have hundreds of ways at getting back at you",
Schumer speaking to Rachel Maddow about U.S. intel services just before DJT's inauguration in January 2017: "They have 6 ways from Sunday of getting you."
They won't let him win. They want total defeat of the public whom I think 75% support him. They will see once and for all what Mark Twain said years ago, "If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it".... Chip
He will win, it's already planned. You've been watching a four year long movie. It's clean up time and this is the aftermath. Things will get worse but it's almost over. The best is yet to come! WWG1WGA 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Looks like the secret service wanted Trump killed.
"The witness claimed he and his friends tried warning police for several minutes as Secret Service members watched on, choosing not to take action until between five and eight shots were fired, the origins of which he said "100%" came from the rifle-carrying man.
"He was up there for a couple of minutes, absolutely at least three, four minutes. We were pointing at him for the Secret Service, who were looking at us from the top of the barn. They were looking at us the whole time."
Only after the gunman fired did police neutralize the threat: "They blew his head off."
I'm a Black dude who used to rescue naive wannabe proud boys from Aryan Brotherhood prison gang rape during my 34-year career in the prison industrial complex. Perhaps I'll have a second career in classifying you at a FEMA detention center if the shit hits the fan. 🤡
Did you just say that Trump supporters are proven dangerous because they did the Holocaust? That is so funny, that's a new one. I commend you for making me laugh, and if you really did prevent rape, then for that too. You are a good troll.
But I really hope you're taking the piss and do not actually think your political opponents should be raped and put in FEMA camps. It seems like it to me, but it's almost impossible to tell these days. You are doing a good job at it if so, and if not are insane.
It would help if you 🤡 learn how to read and not narrate nonsense. I used to rescue weak, wannabe, proud boys from Aryan Brotherhood prison gang rape during my 34-career year in the prison industrial complex in California.
I also assessed convicted felons for probation or prison based on the level of threat that the defendants presented to the community per California Penal 1203.03.
BTW, Becky is here at my second home on the beach rolling on the floor with uncontrollable laughter after assessing your retardation.
I agree. As a 24 year vet, I can tell you that I would not have allowed a single high point advantage around the venue. I would have had my own snipers on top of every building surrounding that venue. Gross incompetence or the SS was in on it... Chip
If Trump gets killed on stage, in the most public and obvious way possible, then what happens after that? He becomes a martyr, the country is destabilized to the extreme, civil war is not at all out of the question, etc.
Meanwhile they have countless ways of taking him out quietly and making it look like natural death. You can imagine what is in the various agencies arsenal of poisons, irradiation devices, and whatever else you might fancy. It's not as if death is an uncommon event for obese unhealthy 78 year olds.
So whoever did this, assuming it wasn't a case of Trump having some blood strapped to his ear, the way they do it in the WWE, with the shots being real, but being directed safely away from him (but why do that when you are up against the demented mummy currently in the White House and you are basically guaranteed victory? it makes no sense, so most likely it was a real assassination attempt), is looking precisely for maximum publicity and obviousness. The reasons for which are the key thing here...
In the aftermath of JFK's assassination, the CIA director JFK had actually fired--Allen Dulles--guided the governmental investigation, making sure to "color within the lines": he was there to "protect sources & methods."
For me Dules is the guy who was behind the assasination. With a strong religious background, diving the world in good and evil and evil had to be fought with every means. JFK more or less turned left and took the exit towards ‘evil’
Dulles brother, John Foster Dulles (the US secretary of State from 1953 until 1959) was the true believer, "good US vs. evil commies" type, not Allen. Allen was a straight up intelligent sociopath, such people only believe in themselves and their own superiority. All the hallmarks are there, his manipulation of his own family members, infidelities, amoral self dealing using his government and intelligence position to make money & protect his personal investments, cozying up to nazis during his WWII intelligence work in Switzerland, other murderous vendettas against any he thought a threat to himself.
Allen Dulles had relocated his (no longer Director of CIA since being fired in 1961) self to "the farm" CIA facility in Virginia BEFORE the Dallas assassination. He stayed there during the whole following weekend while Oswald was sought for, arrested, murdered & etc., Kennedys botched autopsy & return to DC occurred p
and while all the news stories shaping initial public perception were disseminated.
JFK was most likely killed because he was so corrupt that, even in a town full of criminals, they had to do something about him. L. Fletcher Prouty said that JFK got rid of all national security people when he took power and brought in his own people (this had never been done before) and he took the power to issue military contracts solely onto himself and would issue these contracts with the sole goal of assuring his reelection. The one thing he did that likely caused his death was the issuing of the TFX contract to General Dynamics run by a mobster named Henry Crown (this eventually became the F-111). The TFX scandal was by far the biggest scandal in US history and eventually all the investigations morphed into one huge Congressional investigation in 1970 (in the hopes of finally burying the issue). 1970 wasn't a very long time ago. I was born in 1964 and if I would have only been 5 years older would likely have had memories of the scandal. Yet nobody remembers anything about it. We remember when they tried to hire Smedley Butler in 1934 to overturn the US government and turn the country into a corporate dictatorship and we remember the investigation proving that Wall Street had funded Hitler yet somehow we have no recollection of something that happened more recently.
Gore Vidal was the step brother to Jackie Bouvier and in the book, History of the National Security State, he said that JFK wanted to turn the cold war into a hot war by first taking Laos and Manchuria (Manchuria is North Korea and Northern China and had at the time the world's largest deposits of coal and iron ore). He started by placing 20,000 troops in Vietnam (and those military contracts were about to ramp up massively).
It was all actually much more complicated then that. When the Great Depression started things didn't start to get better until FDR injected billions into the economy in 1933. But by 1939 the economy was worse than ever and the way they got it to start to recover was by beginning a massive military buildup starting with the B-17 program to try to not get too far behind the Germans (Vidal's father was the head of the air service at the time, the then equivalent of the Air Force).
By the end of WWII Truman had a choice. Either pay off a mountain of war debt using a civilian economy (and risk going back into a depression) or keep the economy on a military footing and kick the can down the road for another day. He chose to militarize everything. Truman and Eisenhower were men of the world and knew what the game was. In Eisenhower's famous speech warning about the military industrial complex, the part that is forgotten was that he warned about the long term effects on Universities that were all getting military funding. COVID might never have happened if it weren't for the universities being reliant on military funding for 75 years. But JFK was a spoiled rich kid that hadn't done anything with his life. He didn't know the military game was a ruse and so he took it seriously. He was delusional. He made a mess of it.
Today we know that "Investigative Journalists" such as Seymour Hersh are frauds. How he could investigate the Nord Stream bombing for 3 months and not find out the bombings occurred 17 hours apart is an intentional tell. He's fake. They're all fake. Like so many others Hersh wrote a book making the JFK assassination look like a mystery. Together, they create a mountain of lies. The most likely reason Trump didn't release the JFK files is because he found out just how corrupt everything is (and he'd have been hated even more for ruining people's fantasies). They were all in on it. It wasn't the mob or Israel. It was every branch of the US government. It's obvious when you find out the truth (And the Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't that big a deal and was all America's fault - but they've got to create their myths)). Just like the recent murders of Boeing whistleblowers is done by the government, not by Boeing. Only the government has the power to coverup every loose thread that can arise in a crime like that. People are naive and fall for all the bullshit. They want a story they van believe in and will hate your guts for telling them the truth. They want to believe there's a good guy and a bad guy. The truth is there is no morality when the stakes are high enough. The world is run by realists. They have no other choice. The reality is the west was never the democracy we're told it is. It's a military economy through and through. That's why all the strange stuff that keeps conspiracy theorists busy chasing their tails.
Search for "Henry Crown," "TFX Scandal" and "Chicago Outfit." Also listen to several hours of L Fletcher Prouty interviews and read "History of the National Security State" by Paul Jay. There's more of course but that's a start.
They are baiting that trap well: violence is what fascists do best. Please do not give them the excuse they need to lockdown the country for the election. Oh, you bet your ass they will.
“The modern Conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy;
that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
This stupid comment suggesting mass murder is acceptable US politics is typical of contemptible American citizens.
Hatred, violence, and brutal stupidity are hallmarks of this failed state's citizens who can't guarantee the safety of anyone, even a former President.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956):
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents…
the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land
will reach their heart's desire at last and
the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
Art Buchwald:
"I always wanted to go into politics, but I wasn't light enough to make the team."
George Carlin:
“It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.”
It was sheer desperation to take the heat off Biden and his dementia, Hunter Biden style. And he is running the White House now. The president gets an easy sound bite opportunity to sound presidential. he was clearly up, drugged and waiting for it when he gave that presser.
If Trump goes down for good, all the better. Anyone who cannot see this for what it is needs better glasses.
The US itself, like the old USSR of old is now the proverbial riddle, wrapped up in a mystery inside and enigma... In the US it is "Back in the USSR"..
There is some circumstantial evidence that Beria may have had a hand in facilitating the death of Stalin and intended to install himself in Stalin's place. It is also claimed by some that British intelligence provided Beria with a (then untraceable) warfarin/coumarin family poison which lead to Stalin's death. The liquidation of Stalin's personal staff immediately after his death points towards a coverup of a coup attempt as well.
Of course anything is possible. It's possible that Beria was a Western agent, the Soviets thought so but like I said, it's all speculation, it's unlikely we'll ever know what really happened.
One guy wrote on X,"How could a lone gunman have possibly known which one adjacent roof was going to be ignored by literally dozens of undercover agents, LLE, and Secret Service agents?"
Had it succeeded, Trump's nomination would've likely gone to Nicky Haley, a deep state candidate and warmonger. Then we'd see numerous Republicans switching and voting for Joe to stay, because she's even worse. All in all, it doesn't seem like a singular attempt yet, given how much is at stake.
They think that with their control of police & military- they can survive the chaos- then come in and take total control when the population is decimated & weak.
Control is all they think about.
"They" have largely controlled the world for the past 200+ years.
But have now lost Russia & China, plus a few more.
Their global dominance has been broken and they are freaking out.
America & the "west" are "theirs"- their home turf- from whence they controlled the world and brought "home" the treasure they skimmed & stole from around the world- for storage and to use for their purposes.
It is vital for them to "secure" control of their home territory- so they have a base from which to launch their planned future operations to take back control over the world.
They need unquestioning slaves & soldiers for this.
Hence the need to take total control of America, Canada & Europe.
With BRICS rapidly rising & strengthening, the USD & western financial system ponzi scheme are losing vital "cash flow" from the rest of the world.
No longer able to skim & steal from the whole world- without this "cashflow"- their ponzi scheme jig will collapse- is collapsing.
The more panicked they get, the more desperate their actions.
Be forewarned- America & the west face what Russia faced after the Soviet Union collapsed.
Except far worse because the majority in the west are totally dependent on complex supply chains, highly processed foods and highly integrated & technology dependent electrical grids, clean water supplies & sanitation.
Russian's were not nearly so dependent and still suffered greatly with big population declines.
It took Russia 20 years to stabilize, and another 10+ to reach a decent quality of life.
This is what likely what America & the west face- at minimum- given all western countries have rejected & destroyed their national identities.
Russia retained theirs and this was key to their turn around. This, plus a strong nationalist leader like Putin.
I highly doubt there is 1 person in the entire west that has the depth of understanding that Putin does.
Every participant, especially Director of SS Cheatle, should be prosecuted for willful negligence/ignorance, conspiracy to assassinate the President Of U.S. 45.
What's a 24 year old vets take on the shooter "grazing?" Trumps ear somehow (.22 gun?), yet getting headshots on civilians in crossfire. The shooter not even able to hit a static target at close range... Not even range trained ANTIFA?
"somehow?" I see you have limited experience with shooting. The shooter was firing an AR-15, .223 caliber. It's a small bullet but with very high power despite the small diameter. Going for a head shot was risky for the shooter because Trump moves his head a lot when giving a speech: in the time from when the shooter had Trump's head in his crosshairs (I presume he used a telescopic sight) and decided to squeeze off a shot, there's a delay from the reaction time from the decision to the time the squeezing action fires the shot, and then the slight time for the bullet to travel 400 ft / 120 m to the target. In that total time for reaction time and flight time combined, at least half a second and likely almost a second, Trump easily could have moved his head so the bullet grazed him. It's also very likely the shooter did not calmly squeeze off the shot but jerked slightly, because he fired five times in rapid succession. That's almost impossible for someone who is not a very highly experienced sniper to do without jerking the gun significantly off the desired aim point.
The result is that one shot grazed Trump's head while all the rest went into the crowd around Trump. That one of the missed shots hit a bystander in the head is just unlucky. But given the density of the crowd and the many people behind Trump it's no surprise whatsoever that the shots which missed Trump hit bystanders.
What are the chances the shot just grazes his ear in some whack freak of luck. It seems odd that he was shot yet it was the least damaging wound someone can make with a firearm. He didn't even lose part of his ear. Feels weird he can just get cleaned up and go back to normal. Too good to be true.
And yeah I know all of your annoying points you autistically brought up, but the range for the shooter was not far, and even a basic range scrub can hit something more meaningful.
"What are the chances the shot just grazes his ear in some whack freak of luck. "
About a million times greater than the chance someone could deliberately have pulled off a "graze the ear" shot from 120 meters. I see you're really focused on proving you have no skills whatsoever with firearms.
400 ft / 120 meters is a third longer than a US football field. That's a very long shot for rapid fire shooting: your comment that it was "not far" is wildly wrong.
As for range shooting, anybody who has any real experience with shooting at a range knows that putting a telescopic sight on a relatively short-barreled AR-15 won't solve the basic problem that hitting a head sized target at a range of 133 yards (which is what 400 ft is) when rapidly pulling the trigger five times is very difficult. Most people, even those with a lot of range time, can't do it. Heck, many people even taking their time to squeeze off the first shot with no attempt to follow up with four more shots couldn't do it.
And that's at a range: trying to assassinate a former President and the likely next President when you know there will be return fire gets the adrenaline going way more than calmly trying to do your best at the range.
That this shooter got as close as he did indicates either he's exceptionally skilled for an amateur or he just got lucky.
Ah, and I just love it, laughing out loud, at how some people get "annoyed" when they encounter a reality-based comment.
I think one of two alternatives are happening now:
1) TPTB are getting are attempting to get rid of all opposition and take full power over the USA, using the assassination attempt as an excuse to further the existing "State of Emergency" declared by Bush after 911 that has never been rescinded. They will put in power some monkey idiot (like Harris) who will take their orders without question as the national crackdown begins and they can manage the final takeover of the US government by zionists who see this as the last chance to use US military power to start the last war that will result in the zionist takeover of the world..
or
2) They are setting Trump up as a martyr so he can take full power over the USA, using the assassination attempt as an excuse to further the existing "State of Emergency" declared by Bush after 911 that has never been rescinded and manage the final takeover of the US government by zionists who see this as the last chance to use US military power to start the last war that will result in the zionist takeover of the world.
Lean towards #1 - but watch for (as Alex Jones has warned about) Phase II, where an 'enraged, conspiracy wacko, violent white-supremacist ( etc., etc.) Trump supporter'
attacks someone/something associated w/the Dems (or maybe RFK, Jr. - wouldn't that be convenient? Massacres a bunch of immigrants?).
"immigrants"....are you referring to the MILLIONS of uninvited, invading foreign "soldiers" brought into FUSA and funded by taxpayers, courtesy the communist cabal of Soetoro and company ?
Kennedy has been repeatedly denied SS security by the Biden Administration after multiple attacks on him and his family. This is unprecedented for presidential candidates.
We are watching "The Godfather" in real time.
Exciting times when you have Peace reigning in your spirit.
My first thought when I saw the news: So the Secret Service does NOT have a surveillance drone overhead during Trump's open air speeches? How is that omission even possible in today's world?
There is a water tower close by----The best vantage point to observe everything---Can't believe the security detail did not have someone on top of water tower,
This. They can play fools now by saying that they were distracted by the crowd who were acting irregular, waved hands and shouted. Remember, it's a clown world.
You say that as if shooting centre of mass or elsewhere leaves someone alive to speak. If you shoot someone, you shoot to kill. That he was shot in the head is completely irrelevant.
Abusive inaccurate gratuitous ad hominem. The hallmark of the most unpleasant of people. Congratulations. You make an appearance on my 'banned' list. We are done.
It was certainly not a CiA-asset that tried to kill Trump. An AR-rifle is not a sniperrifle. And you dont miss only 130 yards away. The AFA-kid looks skinny and did it on his own (probably).
What we can be certain about is that Secret Service didnt do their job. Why not secure the roof so near the stand? Why not react when witnesses yelled about a man with a rifle?
If its true that multiple shots were fired then their reaction was flegmatic.
One can speculate about foreknowledge and so on but the important part is that politicians and media has spinned this story about Trump, the new Hitler, that must be stopped at any price. They nearly succeded.
Well said, although I wouldn't be as confident to say 'certainly not' myself and actually wouldn't be surprised, but the rest we can say already for sure. The words of the Slovakian PM come to mind after a similar failed political assassination; dependent media is likely most deserving of blame in this case, too.
Even if intelligence were involved, recruiting a shooter would have been a job made much easier by them. They created the situation that would have appeared (to them) to have made this a politically viable option.
In America you don't employ trained killers, you nurture and pick hysterical wackos who do the job and get expended. The trick is to let them and then ice them. Weird SS actions are the key.
Agree. A lot in this story is weird and suspicous. But are SS or CIA that dumb that they nurture a 20 year old ”boy”. If they really want the Orange Man down - why not do it properly? If they find out that kid was highly trained and a marksman with his AR-15 ( are we sure about the weapon) then I will reconsider my opinion. And of course, one can say that he missed by only 1 inch.
Again, this is not how it's done in this century. You don't send an assassin, you create a atmosphere of fear and hatred through your media, then watch how thousands of neckbeard morons rage. A hundred buys a gun, a dozen actually goes for the kill, believing they're stopping next Hitler, no less. It only takes one to succeed, and you lower the target's defense as much as you can so that they have a chance. Then you just sit back and watch, enjoying plausible deniability. It costs much less and risks no retaliation.
Sounds plausible but there is too much at stake to hope for anything to happen. Assume that the first shot actually went into Trump's head. Then we had now ””knew" that it must be a conspiracy, precisely because the security was so lax, and you and I would not had this discussion. The miss makes Trump stronger than ever and much harder to remove. Quite counter productive. When Deep State need to get rid of someone they succeed. Ask Epstein, Seth Rich and others.
This miss was pure God’s kiss. Everything else up to the assassin firing four more shorts before getting terminated lines up perfectly. Nobody would ever take a glancing shot from 400m. Pure luck that he survived.
Also, Deep State will eat shit, no matter how hard it tries, because it's a perversion of humanity's natural development. It's powerful, but you're making a mistake by attributing perfect efficiency to it.
This is correct. By controlling media, you induce mass hypnosis by constantly repeating misinformation. The mass hypnosis will in turn, invoke hate and rage in a percentage of the population, of which a few, will act on those emotions.
This is how you create Manchurian Candidates in the 21sr century, and it is why the media is so dangerous, and such a formidable enemy.
You just described how Lee Oswald had his life ended. Killed in a police station...move along...nothing to see here. The gangsters on the Warren Omission will tell us what's what...You can trust them...they be with the gub'ment. I'm hoping for a "magic bullet" description of events last night. Go back to sleep good citizens...nothing to see here.
An AR makes a perfectly good sharpshooter rifle. Trump doesn’t turn his head and that bullet would have killed him.
130 yard shot with an optic does not require much training to make.
At 130 yards he would have been better off using 308 and aiming high center mass. At that range, a 175g bthp would blast right through a normal bullet proof vest, and it doesn’t look like Trump is wearing plates.
Normal bullet proof vests are effective against 9mm penetration, but don’t hold up against full power cartridges.
It is all a stage. Who cares about trump who rolled out the vax that has killed and injured millions. He should have been in charge for the past 4 years but was a coward.
oh, yeah, something stinks here. too many witnesses to successfully pull this off. But if a sniper from the FBI was watching an unsub pull out and aim a semi-auto and held fire, then there we are truly up shit's creek without a paddle.
So this gunman carries a rifle from his car all the way over to this building, climbed up onto the roof and no Policeman nor Secret Service was there to stop him?
Incompetence is a Cover Story.
Soon we will have a Magic Bullet and 60 years of Deep Fried Bullshit.
I do not think the population is capable of anything even close to that. Riots and looting would be all I would expect. People mollified. The resistance has ED from what I can see.
It won't be that Trump supporter down the street with the "don't tread on me" flag and his friends piling into his truck to go raise a ruckus or storm some government office.
People are thinking about it the wrong way. Yes, there will be organized protests and maybe some Proud Boys rallies. That's not the dangerous part.
The dangerous part is the professional wielders of violence, the police, the National Guard, the military. When the faith and confidence in the system falls below a certain threshold the loyalty of these forces is no longer a given. Meaning that a some point they will be ordered to do something that they disagree with, say guarding the state legislature while they certify a vote that is widely held to be fraudulent, and they will disobey. Perhaps abandoning those officials to the crowd of Proud Boys, or even evicting the directly and destroying the records.
The men in our society that gravitate towards the armed professions are generally conservatives who don't like the woke nonsense, and there isn't much credibility or loyalty to the system left.
It's like predicting an avalanche. It's very hard to tell in advance what will set it off, but it's relatively easy to see that the build up of snow is at an unstable angle.
I see a high level but peaceful military coup like what happened last summer in Niger, very fast, & then the installation of a new government. Bloodless.
Oh they will when that hand runs out of money or in this case becomes worthless. That’s what all this is about mind you. Without the benefit of their little money printing gravy train it’s going to get dicey.
Two years I would state this and I would get a lot of pushback about how silly a statement that was. Some of these bastards ain’t laughing anymore tho. The current and future order cannot exist with a multi polar one. You can thank Xi and Putin for that.
they'll just give the soldiers and cops more money, whatever resources we have left after the rentier class takes their fill will go to cops and soldiers
in fact, i predict that we will see a surge in people joining the military as it will be the only reliable way to get food
Yes, this is definitely a class war. TPTB see the writing on the wall with the emerging multi-polar (-nodal) world and are desperate to maintain and significantly increase control over their respective populations. Things are going to get very tough for us in the West before this is over.
TPTB are enacting a Color Revolution on the citizenry, right out of the Ukraine Regime Change Playbook, the Republic of Georgia Regime Change Playbook: find the tense little seams--ethnic, racial, religious--and agitate, agitate, agitate
This is right out of the Putin Regime Change Playbook too: keep insisting to the Russian people that Russia is not a "normal" country under VVP; keep insisting to ordinary Russians that Russia is not a "democracy" under VVP; keep insisting that Putinism is abjectly evil
TPTB auguring for regime change in the U.S. keep insisting that MAGA extremists are doing x, y & z [this horrible thing] & that DJT is a unique threat to "democracy"
I believe it goes at least as far back as Julius Caesar's playbook; divide et impera. He carved up Gaul destroying an entire population—one wealthy in gold that he needed to pay his debts to Crassus—through exactly such methods as you list. He wasn't ever the most creative or original, even ripping off Pliny when starting off his very first paragraph of his Commentarii de Bello Gallico, so no doubt such tactics go even further back.
Comprised of criminals recently released from prisons and
Insane Asylums all around the world.
Males, 25 to 45 years of age, with a world renowned reputation for valuing their livestock well above that of any female. Illegals have already raped and murdered almost ten young girls, from 12 years old to 30, thus far.
No female of any age should go anywhere without a reliable means of protecting themselves. And, don’t forget, the automobile that a person drives makes an excellent offensive/defensive weapon, if that vehicle is strategically and thoughtfully driven.
A reliable means to protect yourself is always best, but if lacking access to one, a less reliable means is always better than nothing, too. A gun is better when I can, but I always carry at least a well-sharpened knife in either my jacket pocket or purse where I know I can grab it quickly.
Open carrying knives is actually better in places it can be done, you can draw a knife fastest that way and very quickly with practice, but they are easy to conceal even in places where you can't get a gun, and easy to get a knife in places where even carrying a knife might be illegal—even ones with the best designs for piercing flesh and killing people. Better charged with illegal carrying and defending yourself than dead or raped.
Usually you can avoid confrontations altogether if you seem ready to fight, something people forget when considering self-defense. Never look scared or vulnerable in a dangerous area. One time I had no weapon at all as a teenager and was being followed (as in, I was sure he was following me) by some guy who looked dangerous in a bad area at night, but I had read into the way people walk differently with concealed firearms and had immediately adjusted to walk that way and then look like I had my hand on one; he noticed and went away fast.
Anyone who lives in an area where it's even in question if they might ever need to should look into self-defense and practice it in whatever ways they can. Take control over your own safety, since no one else will.
Don’t be a fearmonger. Rape, how sad, happens everywhere and often in a situation where people know eachother. 12-30 rapes among 30 million is no reason to fear as fear is an extremely bad advisor
Didn't the Thief-in-Chief say something similar in that latest horrid "state of the union" mess? That there are more problems from within without the illegals? That alone should disqualify the SOB?
The leftist agitators (agitprop) will pay a steep price for what they have done, and condoned. A TRUE insurrection. Fie on the lot of them.
‘Situational Awareness’ is the topic that every person should SEARCH on you tube, where you will see dozens of different Special Forces War Veterans, kindly offering expert advice to the viewer, in order for every person, but especially female persons, to quickly learn to become far more secure than before hearing said advice. Women appear to seem reluctant to defend and protect themselves, from the replies so many have made, with the whole point being,
REFUSE TO BECOME A VICTIM.
Women seem to think ‘out of sight, out of mind,’ which I’m sure were the attitudes of those in the rape capital of the world, thanks to inviting Muslim men and other illegals into their country, by the train load, which is another quick and easy SEARCH.
Your psychology is clearly already well-prepared to fight in one through this othering of the enemy and denial of words meaning what they have always meant in the past. What is an American to you, if not someone born in the US who is an American citizen? Your political opposition in the US (no, not the illegals) is American by definition, and no, what it means to be American or what you think it is about and so forth are not the same matter.
Unless you are trying to insinuate that "leftists" are non-American in the same manner as the Russiagate conspiracy theorists. Or are playing some other language game here, e.g suggesting that the US has no left consistent with the original meaning and history of the term and leftists therefore cannot be American (hence the left-right divide being a rather meaningless and obsolete term now, in contrast with populism-elitism or what have you).
Dangerous era when all words now mean whatever people want them to.
"Anyone who lives in an area where it's even in question if they might ever need to should look into self-defense and practice it in whatever ways they can. Take control over your own safety, since no one else will."
Discussing the possibility of civil war in the US is not inciting violence. It is free speech on a topic that is critically important for the entire world, civil war in a country armed with 5000 nuclear weapons. In contrast, pushing back on such discussion as seeming to "incite violence" is suppression of the free speech which is exactly what is necessary to avoid civil war.
Recall the glee with which the collective West watched as Prigozhin sent Wagnerians up the M4 toward Moscow: beaucoup op-eds cascaded down on us for 48 hrs, proclaiming Russia "fragile." Concern Trolls pulled a hammy about Russia's inability to secure its nuclear arsenal. That was a fizzy & giddy weekend for the West
Already solved: Israel and the CIA decapitated the Republic in 1963 by assassinating the President JFK. No one was punished for hos lilling because they are in power.
Israel and the CIA did 911 to create a police state and the War of Terror.
Israel and CIA are two wings of the same genocidal bird. This bird is called Zionism and it sits on the shoulders of the Demiurge.
In 1966, Malcolm X died from a shotgun blast to his chest but the normie the prosecutors convicted was carrying a rifle, a 23-yr old man @ the time.
The shooter who aimed the shotgun & pulled the trigger vanished into the NYC night. The normie w/ the rifle was on ice for 44 years. Mujahid Halim was paroled in 2010.
Civil war any soon my friend? Let's wait out and hope internet is still running over there.... Last time I check, Skype stopped their service for Palestinian in Gaza.
Also, Ukraina were fool if the best thing they can planned and acted out is successfully assassinated President Putin, which will only put Softliner and Hardliner on the same train. Russia must end! Must end the life of every single Bacteria running Ukraina's war machine today! Yes today!
I'm sorry, but this is the worst "false flag," "set up," or whatever you want to call it. I live in Brazil, and we experienced the same BS in 2018 with the far-right candidate. It's the same story every time: manipulative tactics to influence public opinion, create chaos, and distort the truth. It's incredibly frustrating to see these deceptive strategies being employed repeatedly, sowing distrust among the people.
The likely intention was , if Mr. Trump out of the way , then the distant second finisher of the primary republican race, Nikki Haley could have carry on, as a "legal" replacement .
She loves " democratic wars " without any moderation .
Trump may have been grazed by a bullet or something else. He also may have had a small package of red dye under his red MAGA hat. Notice that when they drag him away he makes an effort to keep control of that hat. Trump spent a lot of time years ago with the WWE and that is one of their tricks.
People were saying that Trump took the week off after the debate. Perhaps for rehearsals. The performance while he was being dragged off had that vibe.
He puts his hand quickly to his head and releases it very fast. He does not look at his hand for blood, which is what most would do. The photo with the bullet supposedly whizzing past could be faked, it is odd that there is nothing else in the background, with none of the behind stage crowd or overhead electric wires present in the video.
The dead "shooter" was a white 20 year old. We will likely never know if he was a patsy or the real deal.
Not committed to any POV yet, so just putting that out there. There have been so many events staged to discredit Trump, perhaps he decided to beat them at their own game.
Impossible to say from my keyboard. But what does not pass the smell test is the shooter taking that shot with any accuracy at all…given the distant and short setup time. At that range….center mass.
Yeah, sure, Trump asked someone to shoot him just a few milimeters to the right to graze his ear. And Bolsonaro asked someone to stab him and cause him lifelong illness. Or maybe there is another more logical explanation, such as: there is a worldwide cabal of crazy psycopaths such as Killary Clinton or the several of the main leaders of the brazilian Partidos dos Trabalhadores that would gladly murder any viable oppostion.
Never forget the Clintons assassinated Seth Rich after he did the DNC leaks. Julian Assange practically confirmed it without outright saying he was their source in a little seen interview. Supposedly the sister of the late Michael Ratner said she was told it by him in private, too, IIRC. Look at the way he nods at 1:01 answering the question:
That there is a multitude of crazy psychopaths worldwide is not debatable, but to understand it rationally, you need to understand that there are several factions, and factions within factions.
None of this is being strictly controlled, with the exception of the media. The job of the media is to blue pill people with propaganda, and allow the individual factions to create their own realities based on misinformation. The most important factor in winning any game is understanding how the game is played.
The media is the weapon of mass destruction for TPTB, and until we the people understand, and begin to do something about that, we will simply be jerked around the way we always are. The first step in rebuilding the Republic must be to regain control of the media. The truth is the greatest weapon against those who would enslave us.
They're not going to like the blowback of this assassination attempt on President Trump. The libtard democrats have now declared war against a normally peaceful group who own 90 percent of the guns in this country and know how to use them.
Doesn't matter what the civilians with guns do. It matters what the military does. If the military fractures it will be full Civil War. If the military stays more or less unified, whatever side it supports will win.
Wrong. The military is weak. maybe a million strong against 100 million gun owners. And the military is spread across the globe. They are nothing. And they won't fight against their own countrymen... Chip
They might not fight against their own country men, I will give you that. Most of those 100million gun owners aren't fit for war, nor are they organized in a manner that is conducive for combat. They'd be mopped up pretty quick. I do think the military would fracture, though which opens up a lot of possible outcomes.
You are sure making a lot of assumptions. Mopped up? No military has won yet against a thousand paper cuts and the US military as it currently stands ism't even a threat.
When the entire security apparatus, the ones getting paid with the guns including military, reserves, national guard; assorted federal, state and city law enforcement agencies with the money, training, coordination, automatic weapons, big big blow up stuff are ordered to crack down, the majority will obey. Successful peasant's revolts are a historical non entity.
One of those types. You'll be crying and blubbering about "my rights" as they haul you to jail after a tangle with the K9 unit and a few days of roughing it following your valiant "come visit" moment. That's if you run. If you mouth off and shoot without the direst of attacks upon your person and don't run, your life will be a tangle of legal complexities because you're a "legal gun owner". Think outside of your fantasies.
If you're not white and your guns are illegal, negate my comment, you're good to go with few negative consequences. TBTB will look away. Cap, cap, cap away. Don't even have to pay for range time.
People with rifles are a poor match for modern drones, as is being proven in Ukraine.
Any sort of armed insurrection by the people would be met with satellite surveillance and targeted drone attacks, not direct confrontation. One psychopath sitting in a bunker can take out thousands of Citizens at will. Currently, the MIC is working on autonomous drones which do not even need a human controller which takes all human emotion out of the equation.
Without the support of at least a portion of the military, any revolution really does not stand a chance. They would do to the American people what they are doing to the Palestinians.....
Don't use rifles. What is being proven in Ukraine is that shotguns are more effective against drones. Also use anti drone drones to disable their attacks.
Aliexpress sells several anti drone "rifles", a host of anti drone jammers in a multitude of freqs, and a huge variety of drones of all sizes and capabilities.
I am sure China would happily help any uprising with equipment.
Drone jamming is a super easy electronics/RF transmission problem that can be solved by millions of those in the target group.
AI is not what they make it out to be. They will drown in their bunkers...
It very much matters what the citizens do. 65 million voted Trump in 2020 and 90% ++ believe the election was rigged.
Assume that at least 90% of them are heavily armed and that many are experienced military vets.
If just 10% decide to take violent action that's a 6.5 million armed militia. If only 1% do it's still 650,000.
Even if the entire US military was united against such a force, I don't think it would win. However given that many in the military would side with the citizens militia, I am sure that what remained would be defeated and run to the hills.
My hope is that this doesn't happen, but after today it wouldn't surprise me if it does.
The military, the police, the national guard, the trained professional wielders of violence, they enforce the peace and keep the authorities safe. Historically, this class of men makes or brakes a revolution, and at the present moment they have very little confidence in, or respect for, or loyalty to the establishment.
At some point they might be given orders that they decide not to follow and then we are off to the races.
Notice that the official Secret Service statement managed to avoid mentioning that Trump was actually hit. They said one spectator killed, two spectators injured, but somehow left out the fact that Trump was shot, too. That is insane.
Just a side note - let's not use the anti-gun smear of "high powered caliber". Pretty much any caliber in existence can hit someone in the head and scatter brain matter, except perhaps the .22. High powered calibers would be like the 300 Winchester Magnum.
You're confused about which Kennedy was shot with which caliber. JFK was shot by a 6.5mm (.283) Carcano. Robert Kennedy was shot 8 times by a .22 long rifle at point blank, as well as 5 other people were shot. There was no brain matter around when RFK was shot.
The 2nd point about "high powered caliber" is that the phrase is a smear talking point in the battle between the pro-gun and anti-gun sides in the United States. The anti-gun side tries to use as many scary words as possible, hence, they refer to even the tiniest calibers, such as the 5.56 (.223) caliber as "high powered" when in fact it's one of the weakest, tiniest calibers out there as far as center fire cartridges go. My point was even the weakest, tiniest center fire caliber is capable of scattering brain matter if it hits someone in the head.
I'll also not that when someone refers to a '.22', what they mean is .22 Long Rifle, which is not a center fire cartridge.
Fortunately for me, I own a dozen or so various weapons in .22 long rifle, and have shot 10s of thousand of .22 long rifle rounds at both targets and animals over the years. I don't need any 3rd party sources to know that my original statements were correct.
"even the tiniest calibers, such as the 5.56 (.223) caliber as "high powered" when in fact it's one of the weakest, tiniest calibers out there as far as center fire cartridges go. "
Sigh... what is it with the US that they don't teach physics and math any more? Power comes from the square of velocity. Double the velocity and you get four times the power. If you take a look at a .223 caliber round you'll see it has a huge amount of propellant in the case compared to a .22 anything. It gains its power from the much higher speed of the bullet more than the mass, although the mass also is significantly larger given the larger bullet compared to a .22.
The .223 is a fine antipersonnel round: it was designed to precess slightly (the way the axis of a top rotates rhythmically in addition to the spinning of the top) so when it hits a human it destabilizes into an off-axis trajectory within the body, delivering more energy into the target using the length of the bullet and not just poking a small hole through the target. So you get a small entrance wound and a far larger exit wound as all that energy blows more of the body out. Hence the "brain matter" described by witnesses.
Referring to a .223 as "high powered" is perfectly legitimate. There's a host of varmint rounds like that, relatively small diameter but powered by a lot of propellant to deliver high power.
You either know just enough about ballistics to use the words, but not actually understand how the numbers they produce are relative to other cartridges, or your reading comprehension sucks.
"it's one of the weakest, tiniest calibers out there as far as center fire cartridges go" Did you miss the part about "as far as center fire cartridges go"? Why are you comparing the .223 to a non center fire cartridge like the .22LR? The only people who do that either know nothing about ballistics or need some anti-gun talking points. Btw, the correct word to use is not "power". It is energy, measured in ft-lbs or Joules.
The anti-gunners refer to any, and every, centerfire caliber as "high powered". Sure, they're all high "powered" compared to a 22LR, but that's a silly comparison, nobody runs around shooting people with a .22LR.
If a .223 is "high powered", then every common center fire cartridge is "high powered", so it's a distinction without a difference. The .223 only delivers around 1250 ft-lbs, and a typical target and deer hunting cartridge like a 6.5 Creedmoor delivers 2500 ft-lbs. The .223 is weak, the idea it is "high powered' is laughable. There is a reason the .223 is illegal to hunt deer with in most states - it is too weak and it is unethical to shoot something the size of a deer with it. The likelihood of just wounding and not killing the deer is too high.
Lastly, I had to facepalm at the silly idea that the .223 is designed to tumble. It's designed just like any other center fire round. There is nothing specific about it that makes it more or less likely to tumble. That idea is a myth.
You should come join us at a PRC match sometime if there are any around your area. Ask lots of questions and you'll learn a lot. I wouldn't repeat any of what you said here, though, unless you just want to make an ass of yourself.
I've shot small game with the 10/22. Anything the size of a raccoon or cat is pretty much insta-death if you get anything close to a head shot. Maybe a bit of twitching afterwards. No exit wound. Entry wound is a clean puncture usually. I think on a person it wasn't going to blow out the occipital bone like what happened with Kennedy. Not strong enough for the job in .22LR
John Hinckley Jr shot President Ronald Reagan with a Rohm single action,22 LR six shot revolver, and wounded three others, including W H Press Secretary James Brady, shot in the head, Policeman Thomas Delahanty, shot in the neck, and Secret Service Agent Timothy McCarthy, shot in the chest.
The sixth bullet ricocheted off the side of the Presidential Limousine, penetrated President Reagan’s left underarm, broke a rib, and punctured his lung, causing serious internal bleeding.
Although seriously close to death on arrival at George Washington University Hospital, he was stabilized, and the bullet was removed by way of exploratory surgery. He was released from said hospital on April 11, 1981.
The really telling thing, is why no one responded to the witness alert of the man climbing up on the roof minutes before. The local police and the SS should have been in radio contact, and at the point the police were alerted, they should have immediately radioed the SS that they had an armed suspect climbing up on the roof.
And there were two guys in total, one who spoke directly to one of the police, the other is the guy who was waving and gesturing to police and SS that there was someone on the roof.
Lastly, I read that Loomer posted a photo of a ladder that was already leaning against the building before the sniper showed up. Insane.
In fact they did. A policeman, unarmed, climbed the ladder but the shooter pointed a gun at him so he withdraw. Within seconds the shooter fired shots at Trump (clearly stressed I suppose) and within 10th of seconds the Secret Service snipers killed the shooter. You can see the Snipers shoot almost simultaneously as Trump raise his hand to the ear. There is a sniper sitting with rifle on tripod and another one lying behind him. According to ”rumours” the Sniper did not have permission to take the shooter out but were following him all the time. Very strange.
No, not an Americanism. To be in the limelight is to be highlighted, shown off. A positive action.
To be in the bullseye is to be a target. A negative action.
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Obviously never shot a gun
It is clearly his right ear bleeding in the photo.
Yeah, your wires are clearly crossed.
He missed, so he just went for it.
Once we see the lines of fire between the shooter and victims
it will be clearer
First shot was at Trump, second hit his ear, Trump ducked after second shot
What was he thinking? He knew he will be killed, he knew how, he was a marksman...
So probably a part of the contract
MK Ultra?
The woman who is dead was seated directly behind Trump in the stands. Haven't seen anything about the other person who was hit.
Also the *report* of the gunfire sounded after DJT reacted--because the bullet got there faster than the sound of the shot
What’s so hard to understand , the shooter was 200 yards away so it’s a difficult shot to hit a small target. The audience was collateral damage.
Those people were shot by accident.
Fire 8 bullets into a crowd and good chance someone gets hit.
Maybe yes, maybe no. Marrack Garland? Alexando Mayorkis? In charge of investigation? Wouldn't a proper investigation begin prominently with Biden's statement to donors about "putting Trump in a bullseye?" Was the unguarded statement an expression of dementia by someone with motive as well as the possibility of future gain. Biden's main handler, Barack Obama, seems to be all over this matter. Justice Dept, FBI, Homeland Security all Pro-Democratic Party, ultra-Zionist agencies. Is Biden versus Trump best understood as conflict between Zionist factions?
Gaslite much? It was an assassination attempt for F**ks sake -who cares about the glass! Do you work for the View?
Then you are stupid. The pictures I've seen show clearly a hole in the top of his right ear... Chip
Trumptards are gonna Trumptard.
This blog does some of the best Ukraine war analysis out there, but it is full of far right brain rot in the comments section.
that sounds about right. -a.v.
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When a sniper low-crawling across a roof fires a rifle @ you & hits a pane of glass near your head--but not your head--we don't call it an assassination attempt, because the bullet hit the pane of glass & missed your head. In that case, we call it "an incident."
dumb ass... Chip
Trumps right ear was hit, Trump's left ear was facing "the glass".
You are incredibly stupid if you actually believe that
I can VERY clearly see a hole in his ear... Chip
Could be…The photo of the missing bullet is for sure another bullet than that who buzzed his ear. The trajectory is 2 inches lower than the upper part of his both ears.
.224 projectile@~2700 fps, rotational spin 50-100k rps, mucho abrasions to
any flesh nearby.
Probably his eardrums got ruptured. There is bleeding in that case but not a lot
If he makes it to January alive, that is. Because democracy . . .
Judge Merchan has delayed sentencing until mid-September, "if necessary."
They'll try again, and the second time round they won't miss.
Rep. Bennie Thompson [D-MS], the leader of Nancy Antoinette's now-defunct J6 Select Committee, introduced legislation in April 2024 to deny Secret Service protection for DJT "upon conviction."
IIRC Chuck Schumer said months ago something that was practically throwing out the idea of assassination right in the open, too. I can't recall the exact statement off the top of my head, but it is probably not too difficult to find. I think Greenwald may have reported on it at the time. RFK was also denied Secret Service protection, and had a near assassination attempt that was thwarted before it got as far as Trump's did with actual bullets flying past him.
A CIA director once said how the NED now does openly for propaganda what they used to have to do covertly. Now, it seems assassinations are done openly, or most optimistically they are allowed to happen through negligence and the media creating the circumstances in which it's acceptable and someone is likely to do it. Very nice brain you have there, it'd be a shame if someone put a bullet through it.
National Endowment of Democracy, which is nothing but a front for the CIA in all but name. It was expelled from Russia and rightly so. Didn't Schume say something like "don't screw with the intel agency as they have hundreds of ways at getting back at you",
Schumer speaking to Rachel Maddow about U.S. intel services just before DJT's inauguration in January 2017: "They have 6 ways from Sunday of getting you."
They won't let him win. They want total defeat of the public whom I think 75% support him. They will see once and for all what Mark Twain said years ago, "If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it".... Chip
He will win, it's already planned. You've been watching a four year long movie. It's clean up time and this is the aftermath. Things will get worse but it's almost over. The best is yet to come! WWG1WGA 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
I am astounded how more people do not see this….but i suppose emotional triggering does narrow the perspective.
Fuck Musk.
What you no like hair transplant boy in satan suits?
And Reid Hoffman
https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1811855698566975936
Jealousy has overtaken your thoughts.
Looks like the secret service wanted Trump killed.
"The witness claimed he and his friends tried warning police for several minutes as Secret Service members watched on, choosing not to take action until between five and eight shots were fired, the origins of which he said "100%" came from the rifle-carrying man.
"He was up there for a couple of minutes, absolutely at least three, four minutes. We were pointing at him for the Secret Service, who were looking at us from the top of the barn. They were looking at us the whole time."
Only after the gunman fired did police neutralize the threat: "They blew his head off."
From MOA comments.
I'm a Black dude who used to rescue naive wannabe proud boys from Aryan Brotherhood prison gang rape during my 34-year career in the prison industrial complex. Perhaps I'll have a second career in classifying you at a FEMA detention center if the shit hits the fan. 🤡
AI bot. Don't take the bait.
Even worse, I think—a human who writes like an AI, trained on reddit posts.
Wow, that's big of you, rape is so funny as is threatening to put anyone you disagree with in a concentration camp.
Did you just say that Trump supporters are proven dangerous because they did the Holocaust? That is so funny, that's a new one. I commend you for making me laugh, and if you really did prevent rape, then for that too. You are a good troll.
But I really hope you're taking the piss and do not actually think your political opponents should be raped and put in FEMA camps. It seems like it to me, but it's almost impossible to tell these days. You are doing a good job at it if so, and if not are insane.
No you are just another lying troll. Never had a job outside the troll farm cubicle.
Another State Department troll, how does it feel to be a true American traitor?
So you have experience with buck breaking?
Most peculiar...
It would help if you 🤡 learn how to read and not narrate nonsense. I used to rescue weak, wannabe, proud boys from Aryan Brotherhood prison gang rape during my 34-career year in the prison industrial complex in California.
I also assessed convicted felons for probation or prison based on the level of threat that the defendants presented to the community per California Penal 1203.03.
BTW, Becky is here at my second home on the beach rolling on the floor with uncontrollable laughter after assessing your retardation.
She's wondering how you compensate. :)
A most peculiar buck indeed...I do declare!
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Shallom.
I agree. As a 24 year vet, I can tell you that I would not have allowed a single high point advantage around the venue. I would have had my own snipers on top of every building surrounding that venue. Gross incompetence or the SS was in on it... Chip
Why do it this way though?
If Trump gets killed on stage, in the most public and obvious way possible, then what happens after that? He becomes a martyr, the country is destabilized to the extreme, civil war is not at all out of the question, etc.
Meanwhile they have countless ways of taking him out quietly and making it look like natural death. You can imagine what is in the various agencies arsenal of poisons, irradiation devices, and whatever else you might fancy. It's not as if death is an uncommon event for obese unhealthy 78 year olds.
So whoever did this, assuming it wasn't a case of Trump having some blood strapped to his ear, the way they do it in the WWE, with the shots being real, but being directed safely away from him (but why do that when you are up against the demented mummy currently in the White House and you are basically guaranteed victory? it makes no sense, so most likely it was a real assassination attempt), is looking precisely for maximum publicity and obviousness. The reasons for which are the key thing here...
No,
you forget that US is a violent country, has had multiple presidents assassinated, the best way to hide an assassination is doing it in public
even if Trump moves is head, and you do not kill him, you just kill the shooter
and continue
That's exactly why he was killed rather than apprehended.
Ahh he was killed so he could kill anyone else 🤦🏻♂️
The shot went through Trump's ear & hit the blond haired woman behind him in the head. She dropped like a rock while Trump was still standing.
Multiple shots were immediately fired. Nothing says the assassin didn't fire off more shots in attempt at Trump.
May God have mercy on her soul and comfort her loved ones.
In the aftermath of JFK's assassination, the CIA director JFK had actually fired--Allen Dulles--guided the governmental investigation, making sure to "color within the lines": he was there to "protect sources & methods."
Protect the mossad
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For me Dules is the guy who was behind the assasination. With a strong religious background, diving the world in good and evil and evil had to be fought with every means. JFK more or less turned left and took the exit towards ‘evil’
https://rumble.com/v4n9nmk-israels-second-911-how-zionism-conquered-jfk-america-and-palestine.html
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Dulles brother, John Foster Dulles (the US secretary of State from 1953 until 1959) was the true believer, "good US vs. evil commies" type, not Allen. Allen was a straight up intelligent sociopath, such people only believe in themselves and their own superiority. All the hallmarks are there, his manipulation of his own family members, infidelities, amoral self dealing using his government and intelligence position to make money & protect his personal investments, cozying up to nazis during his WWII intelligence work in Switzerland, other murderous vendettas against any he thought a threat to himself.
@cheetosSpring
Allen Dulles had relocated his (no longer Director of CIA since being fired in 1961) self to "the farm" CIA facility in Virginia BEFORE the Dallas assassination. He stayed there during the whole following weekend while Oswald was sought for, arrested, murdered & etc., Kennedys botched autopsy & return to DC occurred p
and while all the news stories shaping initial public perception were disseminated.
Pretty busy for a retired spook.
Thx for describing Dulles's secret government on "the farm"
David Talbot's 2015 book "The Devil's Chessboard: the Rise of Allen Dulles, the CIA & a Secret Government in the U.S." is well-sourced
Another compelling book: "JFK & the Unspeakable"by James W. Douglass, 2008
JFK was most likely killed because he was so corrupt that, even in a town full of criminals, they had to do something about him. L. Fletcher Prouty said that JFK got rid of all national security people when he took power and brought in his own people (this had never been done before) and he took the power to issue military contracts solely onto himself and would issue these contracts with the sole goal of assuring his reelection. The one thing he did that likely caused his death was the issuing of the TFX contract to General Dynamics run by a mobster named Henry Crown (this eventually became the F-111). The TFX scandal was by far the biggest scandal in US history and eventually all the investigations morphed into one huge Congressional investigation in 1970 (in the hopes of finally burying the issue). 1970 wasn't a very long time ago. I was born in 1964 and if I would have only been 5 years older would likely have had memories of the scandal. Yet nobody remembers anything about it. We remember when they tried to hire Smedley Butler in 1934 to overturn the US government and turn the country into a corporate dictatorship and we remember the investigation proving that Wall Street had funded Hitler yet somehow we have no recollection of something that happened more recently.
Gore Vidal was the step brother to Jackie Bouvier and in the book, History of the National Security State, he said that JFK wanted to turn the cold war into a hot war by first taking Laos and Manchuria (Manchuria is North Korea and Northern China and had at the time the world's largest deposits of coal and iron ore). He started by placing 20,000 troops in Vietnam (and those military contracts were about to ramp up massively).
It was all actually much more complicated then that. When the Great Depression started things didn't start to get better until FDR injected billions into the economy in 1933. But by 1939 the economy was worse than ever and the way they got it to start to recover was by beginning a massive military buildup starting with the B-17 program to try to not get too far behind the Germans (Vidal's father was the head of the air service at the time, the then equivalent of the Air Force).
By the end of WWII Truman had a choice. Either pay off a mountain of war debt using a civilian economy (and risk going back into a depression) or keep the economy on a military footing and kick the can down the road for another day. He chose to militarize everything. Truman and Eisenhower were men of the world and knew what the game was. In Eisenhower's famous speech warning about the military industrial complex, the part that is forgotten was that he warned about the long term effects on Universities that were all getting military funding. COVID might never have happened if it weren't for the universities being reliant on military funding for 75 years. But JFK was a spoiled rich kid that hadn't done anything with his life. He didn't know the military game was a ruse and so he took it seriously. He was delusional. He made a mess of it.
Today we know that "Investigative Journalists" such as Seymour Hersh are frauds. How he could investigate the Nord Stream bombing for 3 months and not find out the bombings occurred 17 hours apart is an intentional tell. He's fake. They're all fake. Like so many others Hersh wrote a book making the JFK assassination look like a mystery. Together, they create a mountain of lies. The most likely reason Trump didn't release the JFK files is because he found out just how corrupt everything is (and he'd have been hated even more for ruining people's fantasies). They were all in on it. It wasn't the mob or Israel. It was every branch of the US government. It's obvious when you find out the truth (And the Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't that big a deal and was all America's fault - but they've got to create their myths)). Just like the recent murders of Boeing whistleblowers is done by the government, not by Boeing. Only the government has the power to coverup every loose thread that can arise in a crime like that. People are naive and fall for all the bullshit. They want a story they van believe in and will hate your guts for telling them the truth. They want to believe there's a good guy and a bad guy. The truth is there is no morality when the stakes are high enough. The world is run by realists. They have no other choice. The reality is the west was never the democracy we're told it is. It's a military economy through and through. That's why all the strange stuff that keeps conspiracy theorists busy chasing their tails.
Search for "Henry Crown," "TFX Scandal" and "Chicago Outfit." Also listen to several hours of L Fletcher Prouty interviews and read "History of the National Security State" by Paul Jay. There's more of course but that's a start.
It should just be leaked that if Trump is killed then a dozen corrupt Dem Congressional criminals will be shot within days. Simple.
They are baiting that trap well: violence is what fascists do best. Please do not give them the excuse they need to lockdown the country for the election. Oh, you bet your ass they will.
That is just what they want.
John Kenneth Galbraith:
“The modern Conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy;
that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
This stupid comment suggesting mass murder is acceptable US politics is typical of contemptible American citizens.
Hatred, violence, and brutal stupidity are hallmarks of this failed state's citizens who can't guarantee the safety of anyone, even a former President.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956):
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents…
the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land
will reach their heart's desire at last and
the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
Art Buchwald:
"I always wanted to go into politics, but I wasn't light enough to make the team."
George Carlin:
“It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.”
It was sheer desperation to take the heat off Biden and his dementia, Hunter Biden style. And he is running the White House now. The president gets an easy sound bite opportunity to sound presidential. he was clearly up, drugged and waiting for it when he gave that presser.
If Trump goes down for good, all the better. Anyone who cannot see this for what it is needs better glasses.
You mean to give a signal to other opposite voices… they could ne next and less lucky…
End of times is nearing…
General Moron sinks to new levels....
The US itself, like the old USSR of old is now the proverbial riddle, wrapped up in a mystery inside and enigma... In the US it is "Back in the USSR"..
Except the USSR never assassinated its leaders, just the opposition.
The opposition also had and has leaders.
Who don't really amount to much, by and large, Western puppets.
@William Bowles
There is some circumstantial evidence that Beria may have had a hand in facilitating the death of Stalin and intended to install himself in Stalin's place. It is also claimed by some that British intelligence provided Beria with a (then untraceable) warfarin/coumarin family poison which lead to Stalin's death. The liquidation of Stalin's personal staff immediately after his death points towards a coverup of a coup attempt as well.
Of course anything is possible. It's possible that Beria was a Western agent, the Soviets thought so but like I said, it's all speculation, it's unlikely we'll ever know what really happened.
One guy wrote on X,"How could a lone gunman have possibly known which one adjacent roof was going to be ignored by literally dozens of undercover agents, LLE, and Secret Service agents?"
Had it succeeded, Trump's nomination would've likely gone to Nicky Haley, a deep state candidate and warmonger. Then we'd see numerous Republicans switching and voting for Joe to stay, because she's even worse. All in all, it doesn't seem like a singular attempt yet, given how much is at stake.
They would nominate some patsy to replace him two days later and all of the sympathy for Trump would get channeled into a form that wasn't a threat.
How did the gunman know beforehand that his location is not going to be guarded by anyone? Huh!
And this?
I found the original video posted on youtube about 4 months ago. Listen to the prediction around the 11 minute mark.
https://youtu.be/Ey0qVzG8_vU?si=YdQ8fgTeBbdMLwst
The donors have decided that Trump will be president. It's that simple. Beautifully orchestrated. And that fist he raises! Splendid.
The question now is his vp, which I speculate will be Vance. Vance's biggest donor is Thiel. As in "Surveillance Thiel". Chaos is necessary!
Why start the war in the ukraine if we knew it would hasten our demise and show the whole world the US is weak?
because they're desperate
Because they're arrogant. Hubris has slain many a hero and villain.
the quote comes to mind: Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt
"They" want civil war.
They think that with their control of police & military- they can survive the chaos- then come in and take total control when the population is decimated & weak.
Control is all they think about.
"They" have largely controlled the world for the past 200+ years.
But have now lost Russia & China, plus a few more.
Their global dominance has been broken and they are freaking out.
America & the "west" are "theirs"- their home turf- from whence they controlled the world and brought "home" the treasure they skimmed & stole from around the world- for storage and to use for their purposes.
It is vital for them to "secure" control of their home territory- so they have a base from which to launch their planned future operations to take back control over the world.
They need unquestioning slaves & soldiers for this.
Hence the need to take total control of America, Canada & Europe.
With BRICS rapidly rising & strengthening, the USD & western financial system ponzi scheme are losing vital "cash flow" from the rest of the world.
No longer able to skim & steal from the whole world- without this "cashflow"- their ponzi scheme jig will collapse- is collapsing.
The more panicked they get, the more desperate their actions.
Be forewarned- America & the west face what Russia faced after the Soviet Union collapsed.
Except far worse because the majority in the west are totally dependent on complex supply chains, highly processed foods and highly integrated & technology dependent electrical grids, clean water supplies & sanitation.
Russian's were not nearly so dependent and still suffered greatly with big population declines.
It took Russia 20 years to stabilize, and another 10+ to reach a decent quality of life.
This is what likely what America & the west face- at minimum- given all western countries have rejected & destroyed their national identities.
Russia retained theirs and this was key to their turn around. This, plus a strong nationalist leader like Putin.
I highly doubt there is 1 person in the entire west that has the depth of understanding that Putin does.
Godspeed.
Everything went according to plan except the outcome.
Which is why Aleks at BMA says we're now living in Plan B.
Every participant, especially Director of SS Cheatle, should be prosecuted for willful negligence/ignorance, conspiracy to assassinate the President Of U.S. 45.
What's a 24 year old vets take on the shooter "grazing?" Trumps ear somehow (.22 gun?), yet getting headshots on civilians in crossfire. The shooter not even able to hit a static target at close range... Not even range trained ANTIFA?
"somehow?" I see you have limited experience with shooting. The shooter was firing an AR-15, .223 caliber. It's a small bullet but with very high power despite the small diameter. Going for a head shot was risky for the shooter because Trump moves his head a lot when giving a speech: in the time from when the shooter had Trump's head in his crosshairs (I presume he used a telescopic sight) and decided to squeeze off a shot, there's a delay from the reaction time from the decision to the time the squeezing action fires the shot, and then the slight time for the bullet to travel 400 ft / 120 m to the target. In that total time for reaction time and flight time combined, at least half a second and likely almost a second, Trump easily could have moved his head so the bullet grazed him. It's also very likely the shooter did not calmly squeeze off the shot but jerked slightly, because he fired five times in rapid succession. That's almost impossible for someone who is not a very highly experienced sniper to do without jerking the gun significantly off the desired aim point.
The result is that one shot grazed Trump's head while all the rest went into the crowd around Trump. That one of the missed shots hit a bystander in the head is just unlucky. But given the density of the crowd and the many people behind Trump it's no surprise whatsoever that the shots which missed Trump hit bystanders.
What are the chances the shot just grazes his ear in some whack freak of luck. It seems odd that he was shot yet it was the least damaging wound someone can make with a firearm. He didn't even lose part of his ear. Feels weird he can just get cleaned up and go back to normal. Too good to be true.
And yeah I know all of your annoying points you autistically brought up, but the range for the shooter was not far, and even a basic range scrub can hit something more meaningful.
"What are the chances the shot just grazes his ear in some whack freak of luck. "
About a million times greater than the chance someone could deliberately have pulled off a "graze the ear" shot from 120 meters. I see you're really focused on proving you have no skills whatsoever with firearms.
400 ft / 120 meters is a third longer than a US football field. That's a very long shot for rapid fire shooting: your comment that it was "not far" is wildly wrong.
As for range shooting, anybody who has any real experience with shooting at a range knows that putting a telescopic sight on a relatively short-barreled AR-15 won't solve the basic problem that hitting a head sized target at a range of 133 yards (which is what 400 ft is) when rapidly pulling the trigger five times is very difficult. Most people, even those with a lot of range time, can't do it. Heck, many people even taking their time to squeeze off the first shot with no attempt to follow up with four more shots couldn't do it.
And that's at a range: trying to assassinate a former President and the likely next President when you know there will be return fire gets the adrenaline going way more than calmly trying to do your best at the range.
That this shooter got as close as he did indicates either he's exceptionally skilled for an amateur or he just got lucky.
Ah, and I just love it, laughing out loud, at how some people get "annoyed" when they encounter a reality-based comment.
Only the first shot 'might' have made the target of 6" by 8" at 400 feet. The 4 rapid following shots would all be slightly or more off-target.
Thank you for this analysis.
Can you control yourself and not write up to the word limit every time?
Speaking of autistic.
Autistically.. not you ?
"And yeah I know all of your annoying points you autistically brought up" -- what a jackass.
Same chances that God actually exists and doesn't wish for his creation to go down in atomic fire yet. He's more in the flood business, you see.
Agree. He turned his just in time.
All pure speculation but fun for the speculators
Thank you for the analysis, and as a side effect you also uncovered a gamma.
That was .223 not 22LR. Very different rounds.
The target isn't static, Trump uses lots of body language.
Not close range, medium range, not an easy shot.
8 shots into a crowd, odds aren't to bad someone catches one in the head.
I think one of two alternatives are happening now:
1) TPTB are getting are attempting to get rid of all opposition and take full power over the USA, using the assassination attempt as an excuse to further the existing "State of Emergency" declared by Bush after 911 that has never been rescinded. They will put in power some monkey idiot (like Harris) who will take their orders without question as the national crackdown begins and they can manage the final takeover of the US government by zionists who see this as the last chance to use US military power to start the last war that will result in the zionist takeover of the world..
or
2) They are setting Trump up as a martyr so he can take full power over the USA, using the assassination attempt as an excuse to further the existing "State of Emergency" declared by Bush after 911 that has never been rescinded and manage the final takeover of the US government by zionists who see this as the last chance to use US military power to start the last war that will result in the zionist takeover of the world.
See the similarity between the two options?
🚫🤡
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Option 2 is highly unlikely. If Trump hadn't turned his head at that exact moment, he wouldn't be alive to take power.
Good point.
Lean towards #1 - but watch for (as Alex Jones has warned about) Phase II, where an 'enraged, conspiracy wacko, violent white-supremacist ( etc., etc.) Trump supporter'
attacks someone/something associated w/the Dems (or maybe RFK, Jr. - wouldn't that be convenient? Massacres a bunch of immigrants?).
So as to more fully justify the 'emergency'.
"immigrants"....are you referring to the MILLIONS of uninvited, invading foreign "soldiers" brought into FUSA and funded by taxpayers, courtesy the communist cabal of Soetoro and company ?
Your mental illness is more obvious
How was any person allowed to penetrate that perimeter...with a rifle?
How often has someone behind DJT at a rally had a sign with a big red.....
FIRED on it?(I don't know haven't watched many recent rallies)
Kennedy has been repeatedly denied SS security by the Biden Administration after multiple attacks on him and his family. This is unprecedented for presidential candidates.
We are watching "The Godfather" in real time.
Exciting times when you have Peace reigning in your spirit.
My first thought when I saw the news: So the Secret Service does NOT have a surveillance drone overhead during Trump's open air speeches? How is that omission even possible in today's world?
Thought the same thing. Could easily have a dozen
There is a water tower close by----The best vantage point to observe everything---Can't believe the security detail did not have someone on top of water tower,
"They were looking at us the whole time."
This. They can play fools now by saying that they were distracted by the crowd who were acting irregular, waved hands and shouted. Remember, it's a clown world.
and why did they 'blew his head off' ? So's he wouldn't talk. What do you think?
You say that as if shooting centre of mass or elsewhere leaves someone alive to speak. If you shoot someone, you shoot to kill. That he was shot in the head is completely irrelevant.
Balderdash.
Yeah they shouldn’t of killed the shooter. Instead took the time to get a ladder climb up the roof & arrest him….🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
i assume that's sarcasm? makes your day? okay... be happy...
So says another domestic communist, eh Emma ?
Because that was the part of his body visible over the peak of the roof.
This.
I think you know less than nothing about sniper training.
You should kindly shut your pie hole. Never go full retard.
Abusive inaccurate gratuitous ad hominem. The hallmark of the most unpleasant of people. Congratulations. You make an appearance on my 'banned' list. We are done.
Trump did say he loved the under educated morons. 🤡
Agree
It was certainly not a CiA-asset that tried to kill Trump. An AR-rifle is not a sniperrifle. And you dont miss only 130 yards away. The AFA-kid looks skinny and did it on his own (probably).
What we can be certain about is that Secret Service didnt do their job. Why not secure the roof so near the stand? Why not react when witnesses yelled about a man with a rifle?
If its true that multiple shots were fired then their reaction was flegmatic.
One can speculate about foreknowledge and so on but the important part is that politicians and media has spinned this story about Trump, the new Hitler, that must be stopped at any price. They nearly succeded.
Well said, although I wouldn't be as confident to say 'certainly not' myself and actually wouldn't be surprised, but the rest we can say already for sure. The words of the Slovakian PM come to mind after a similar failed political assassination; dependent media is likely most deserving of blame in this case, too.
Even if intelligence were involved, recruiting a shooter would have been a job made much easier by them. They created the situation that would have appeared (to them) to have made this a politically viable option.
In America you don't employ trained killers, you nurture and pick hysterical wackos who do the job and get expended. The trick is to let them and then ice them. Weird SS actions are the key.
Agree. A lot in this story is weird and suspicous. But are SS or CIA that dumb that they nurture a 20 year old ”boy”. If they really want the Orange Man down - why not do it properly? If they find out that kid was highly trained and a marksman with his AR-15 ( are we sure about the weapon) then I will reconsider my opinion. And of course, one can say that he missed by only 1 inch.
Again, this is not how it's done in this century. You don't send an assassin, you create a atmosphere of fear and hatred through your media, then watch how thousands of neckbeard morons rage. A hundred buys a gun, a dozen actually goes for the kill, believing they're stopping next Hitler, no less. It only takes one to succeed, and you lower the target's defense as much as you can so that they have a chance. Then you just sit back and watch, enjoying plausible deniability. It costs much less and risks no retaliation.
Sounds plausible but there is too much at stake to hope for anything to happen. Assume that the first shot actually went into Trump's head. Then we had now ””knew" that it must be a conspiracy, precisely because the security was so lax, and you and I would not had this discussion. The miss makes Trump stronger than ever and much harder to remove. Quite counter productive. When Deep State need to get rid of someone they succeed. Ask Epstein, Seth Rich and others.
This miss was pure God’s kiss. Everything else up to the assassin firing four more shorts before getting terminated lines up perfectly. Nobody would ever take a glancing shot from 400m. Pure luck that he survived.
Also, Deep State will eat shit, no matter how hard it tries, because it's a perversion of humanity's natural development. It's powerful, but you're making a mistake by attributing perfect efficiency to it.
If the patsy gets him, fine.
If not, go into phase two and set up something that's an apparent reaction targeting the other side.
Haven't spent all that effort in hyping the threat of violent white supremacist Trump supporters for no reason, right?
Look for the 'reaction' false flag that will 'force' the guvmint to take emergency measures...
This is correct. By controlling media, you induce mass hypnosis by constantly repeating misinformation. The mass hypnosis will in turn, invoke hate and rage in a percentage of the population, of which a few, will act on those emotions.
This is how you create Manchurian Candidates in the 21sr century, and it is why the media is so dangerous, and such a formidable enemy.
You just described how Lee Oswald had his life ended. Killed in a police station...move along...nothing to see here. The gangsters on the Warren Omission will tell us what's what...You can trust them...they be with the gub'ment. I'm hoping for a "magic bullet" description of events last night. Go back to sleep good citizens...nothing to see here.
Yeah, in the US once you sidestep there's always a convenient psycho for you.
An AR makes a perfectly good sharpshooter rifle. Trump doesn’t turn his head and that bullet would have killed him.
130 yard shot with an optic does not require much training to make.
At 130 yards he would have been better off using 308 and aiming high center mass. At that range, a 175g bthp would blast right through a normal bullet proof vest, and it doesn’t look like Trump is wearing plates.
Normal bullet proof vests are effective against 9mm penetration, but don’t hold up against full power cartridges.
Still dancing in ignorance.
Disprove any of the statements I made.
Trump turned his head. I analyzed the clip before I commented. Here did someone do a slowmotion and came to sam conclusion: https://x.com/TheyTrulyHateU/status/1812357556146196772
They found some kid they could throw away if he failed, let him take his shot, then killed him.
It is all a stage. Who cares about trump who rolled out the vax that has killed and injured millions. He should have been in charge for the past 4 years but was a coward.
oh, yeah, something stinks here. too many witnesses to successfully pull this off. But if a sniper from the FBI was watching an unsub pull out and aim a semi-auto and held fire, then there we are truly up shit's creek without a paddle.
So this gunman carries a rifle from his car all the way over to this building, climbed up onto the roof and no Policeman nor Secret Service was there to stop him?
Incompetence is a Cover Story.
Soon we will have a Magic Bullet and 60 years of Deep Fried Bullshit.
You might like this podcast explaining what we know so far on the Trump Attempted Assassination attempt, 3 days out:
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/WQB2cJkpjLb
The Preference Cascade for Open Conflict, Mass Carnage & Violence... has now been kicked off.
The turmoil & tumult of 1968 will look like a Summer Picnic compared to what happens next.
The likelihood of outright Civil War has thus grown tremendously...
Agreed. CW is a real possibility. Although IF it happens it will be nothing like 1864. Asymmetrical as shit... Chip
I do not think the population is capable of anything even close to that. Riots and looting would be all I would expect. People mollified. The resistance has ED from what I can see.
That's not how it works.
It won't be that Trump supporter down the street with the "don't tread on me" flag and his friends piling into his truck to go raise a ruckus or storm some government office.
People are thinking about it the wrong way. Yes, there will be organized protests and maybe some Proud Boys rallies. That's not the dangerous part.
The dangerous part is the professional wielders of violence, the police, the National Guard, the military. When the faith and confidence in the system falls below a certain threshold the loyalty of these forces is no longer a given. Meaning that a some point they will be ordered to do something that they disagree with, say guarding the state legislature while they certify a vote that is widely held to be fraudulent, and they will disobey. Perhaps abandoning those officials to the crowd of Proud Boys, or even evicting the directly and destroying the records.
The men in our society that gravitate towards the armed professions are generally conservatives who don't like the woke nonsense, and there isn't much credibility or loyalty to the system left.
It's like predicting an avalanche. It's very hard to tell in advance what will set it off, but it's relatively easy to see that the build up of snow is at an unstable angle.
I see a high level but peaceful military coup like what happened last summer in Niger, very fast, & then the installation of a new government. Bloodless.
People across the country will feel relieved
You are always such an optimist... ;-)
As Defence Secretary Austin leads a Military Junta in overthrowing FJB, and suspending Federal Elections....
To sustain Democracy, of course..😎.
Just like in Ukraine.
The coup happened, long ago.
the cops and soldiers won't bite the hand that feeds
Oh they will when that hand runs out of money or in this case becomes worthless. That’s what all this is about mind you. Without the benefit of their little money printing gravy train it’s going to get dicey.
Two years I would state this and I would get a lot of pushback about how silly a statement that was. Some of these bastards ain’t laughing anymore tho. The current and future order cannot exist with a multi polar one. You can thank Xi and Putin for that.
they'll just give the soldiers and cops more money, whatever resources we have left after the rentier class takes their fill will go to cops and soldiers
in fact, i predict that we will see a surge in people joining the military as it will be the only reliable way to get food
Very well stated Hatter
Well if you are talking about Nantucket then yeah……not very capable. The rest of rural USA…a bit different. But you knew that.
If there's going to be looting, DM me when & where: I need a new wristwatch
cheetos is rapidly becoming my favorite commenter on Simplicius
dammit boy
There won't be a civil war, a civil war is where people of the same country fight each other, that's not the case here.
Leftist are not Americans, and neither is the government or the 13 to 15 million illegals that the foreign army hid in while crossing over.
The U.S. people are not fighting against each other--but the PTB are trying to gin something up:
faux race war [ !white supremacists!]
faux religious war [ !conservative Christians! ]
We are not @ war w/ each other but the ruling elites are warring on us
Exactly right.
Yes, this is definitely a class war. TPTB see the writing on the wall with the emerging multi-polar (-nodal) world and are desperate to maintain and significantly increase control over their respective populations. Things are going to get very tough for us in the West before this is over.
TPTB are enacting a Color Revolution on the citizenry, right out of the Ukraine Regime Change Playbook, the Republic of Georgia Regime Change Playbook: find the tense little seams--ethnic, racial, religious--and agitate, agitate, agitate
This is right out of the Putin Regime Change Playbook too: keep insisting to the Russian people that Russia is not a "normal" country under VVP; keep insisting to ordinary Russians that Russia is not a "democracy" under VVP; keep insisting that Putinism is abjectly evil
TPTB auguring for regime change in the U.S. keep insisting that MAGA extremists are doing x, y & z [this horrible thing] & that DJT is a unique threat to "democracy"
I believe it goes at least as far back as Julius Caesar's playbook; divide et impera. He carved up Gaul destroying an entire population—one wealthy in gold that he needed to pay his debts to Crassus—through exactly such methods as you list. He wasn't ever the most creative or original, even ripping off Pliny when starting off his very first paragraph of his Commentarii de Bello Gallico, so no doubt such tactics go even further back.
Sad to hear of this plagiarism against Pliny--!!
Great depth of history here
Upvoting
I'd wager its her noxious majespee perfidious albion.....
...which would be consistent with her character and history.
There are currently 30 Million Illegals
on American soil, and counting.
They’re here primarily to vote in
0bomo’s fourth term in the W H.
Comprised of criminals recently released from prisons and
Insane Asylums all around the world.
Males, 25 to 45 years of age, with a world renowned reputation for valuing their livestock well above that of any female. Illegals have already raped and murdered almost ten young girls, from 12 years old to 30, thus far.
No female of any age should go anywhere without a reliable means of protecting themselves. And, don’t forget, the automobile that a person drives makes an excellent offensive/defensive weapon, if that vehicle is strategically and thoughtfully driven.
Search: Situational Awareness on yt
Also: Tactical Performance Center,
‘Trigger Pull Mastery’
A reliable means to protect yourself is always best, but if lacking access to one, a less reliable means is always better than nothing, too. A gun is better when I can, but I always carry at least a well-sharpened knife in either my jacket pocket or purse where I know I can grab it quickly.
Open carrying knives is actually better in places it can be done, you can draw a knife fastest that way and very quickly with practice, but they are easy to conceal even in places where you can't get a gun, and easy to get a knife in places where even carrying a knife might be illegal—even ones with the best designs for piercing flesh and killing people. Better charged with illegal carrying and defending yourself than dead or raped.
Usually you can avoid confrontations altogether if you seem ready to fight, something people forget when considering self-defense. Never look scared or vulnerable in a dangerous area. One time I had no weapon at all as a teenager and was being followed (as in, I was sure he was following me) by some guy who looked dangerous in a bad area at night, but I had read into the way people walk differently with concealed firearms and had immediately adjusted to walk that way and then look like I had my hand on one; he noticed and went away fast.
Anyone who lives in an area where it's even in question if they might ever need to should look into self-defense and practice it in whatever ways they can. Take control over your own safety, since no one else will.
I favor the Cossack Whip for open carry
Don’t be a fearmonger. Rape, how sad, happens everywhere and often in a situation where people know eachother. 12-30 rapes among 30 million is no reason to fear as fear is an extremely bad advisor
Didn't the Thief-in-Chief say something similar in that latest horrid "state of the union" mess? That there are more problems from within without the illegals? That alone should disqualify the SOB?
The leftist agitators (agitprop) will pay a steep price for what they have done, and condoned. A TRUE insurrection. Fie on the lot of them.
‘Situational Awareness’ is the topic that every person should SEARCH on you tube, where you will see dozens of different Special Forces War Veterans, kindly offering expert advice to the viewer, in order for every person, but especially female persons, to quickly learn to become far more secure than before hearing said advice. Women appear to seem reluctant to defend and protect themselves, from the replies so many have made, with the whole point being,
REFUSE TO BECOME A VICTIM.
Women seem to think ‘out of sight, out of mind,’ which I’m sure were the attitudes of those in the rape capital of the world, thanks to inviting Muslim men and other illegals into their country, by the train load, which is another quick and easy SEARCH.
They aren't here to vote, you think those 2 Venezuelans that raped that 13 year old girl then killed her are here to vote?
That's just a sample of what is coming.
Your psychology is clearly already well-prepared to fight in one through this othering of the enemy and denial of words meaning what they have always meant in the past. What is an American to you, if not someone born in the US who is an American citizen? Your political opposition in the US (no, not the illegals) is American by definition, and no, what it means to be American or what you think it is about and so forth are not the same matter.
Unless you are trying to insinuate that "leftists" are non-American in the same manner as the Russiagate conspiracy theorists. Or are playing some other language game here, e.g suggesting that the US has no left consistent with the original meaning and history of the term and leftists therefore cannot be American (hence the left-right divide being a rather meaningless and obsolete term now, in contrast with populism-elitism or what have you).
Dangerous era when all words now mean whatever people want them to.
So is your "psychology".
"Anyone who lives in an area where it's even in question if they might ever need to should look into self-defense and practice it in whatever ways they can. Take control over your own safety, since no one else will."
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Be careful of these types of remarks, people. This one seemed aimed at inciting the violence. Don't take the bait.
Discussing the possibility of civil war in the US is not inciting violence. It is free speech on a topic that is critically important for the entire world, civil war in a country armed with 5000 nuclear weapons. In contrast, pushing back on such discussion as seeming to "incite violence" is suppression of the free speech which is exactly what is necessary to avoid civil war.
Recall the glee with which the collective West watched as Prigozhin sent Wagnerians up the M4 toward Moscow: beaucoup op-eds cascaded down on us for 48 hrs, proclaiming Russia "fragile." Concern Trolls pulled a hammy about Russia's inability to secure its nuclear arsenal. That was a fizzy & giddy weekend for the West
There are always agents provocateur around….fortunately they glow, so there’s that.
The diaper-dirtying almost ran out of competition ..
Re-open The JFK Assassination Files!!
Can we just deal with the mountains of corruption that have happened since 911 first? Chip
Already solved: Israel and the CIA decapitated the Republic in 1963 by assassinating the President JFK. No one was punished for hos lilling because they are in power.
Israel and the CIA did 911 to create a police state and the War of Terror.
Israel and CIA are two wings of the same genocidal bird. This bird is called Zionism and it sits on the shoulders of the Demiurge.
Simple, sober and clear.
Or, as George Galloway more colorfully put it in relation to the 2 major British parties "two cheeks of the same backside".
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In 1966, Malcolm X died from a shotgun blast to his chest but the normie the prosecutors convicted was carrying a rifle, a 23-yr old man @ the time.
The shooter who aimed the shotgun & pulled the trigger vanished into the NYC night. The normie w/ the rifle was on ice for 44 years. Mujahid Halim was paroled in 2010.
NYC reopened the case in 2021
CIA-operation for sure. JFK, RFK, Martin and Malcolm was the crowning on the Deep State Cake.
wild. wonder if this upping of the ante affects various prominent Democrats' enthusiasm for taking Biden's place at that DNC?
Civil war any soon my friend? Let's wait out and hope internet is still running over there.... Last time I check, Skype stopped their service for Palestinian in Gaza.
Also, Ukraina were fool if the best thing they can planned and acted out is successfully assassinated President Putin, which will only put Softliner and Hardliner on the same train. Russia must end! Must end the life of every single Bacteria running Ukraina's war machine today! Yes today!
I'm sorry, but this is the worst "false flag," "set up," or whatever you want to call it. I live in Brazil, and we experienced the same BS in 2018 with the far-right candidate. It's the same story every time: manipulative tactics to influence public opinion, create chaos, and distort the truth. It's incredibly frustrating to see these deceptive strategies being employed repeatedly, sowing distrust among the people.
With FF, your guy doesn't get shot in the head. This was possibly the result of a DEI hire, but that is as close to a label as this event gets.
The likely intention was , if Mr. Trump out of the way , then the distant second finisher of the primary republican race, Nikki Haley could have carry on, as a "legal" replacement .
She loves " democratic wars " without any moderation .
Trump may have been grazed by a bullet or something else. He also may have had a small package of red dye under his red MAGA hat. Notice that when they drag him away he makes an effort to keep control of that hat. Trump spent a lot of time years ago with the WWE and that is one of their tricks.
People were saying that Trump took the week off after the debate. Perhaps for rehearsals. The performance while he was being dragged off had that vibe.
He puts his hand quickly to his head and releases it very fast. He does not look at his hand for blood, which is what most would do. The photo with the bullet supposedly whizzing past could be faked, it is odd that there is nothing else in the background, with none of the behind stage crowd or overhead electric wires present in the video.
The dead "shooter" was a white 20 year old. We will likely never know if he was a patsy or the real deal.
Not committed to any POV yet, so just putting that out there. There have been so many events staged to discredit Trump, perhaps he decided to beat them at their own game.
Interesting thoughts! Staging an attempt to win the race.
LOL
Yeah. Lets stage such a event, you and me. I take three shots at you from 120m. I promise, Ill aim 50cm away from you!
In the hypothetical scenario described, there is no bullet 50cm away. Just a couple of random shots fired toward the stage and a dye pack.
Bro you should read that out loud to yourself 🤦🏻♂️
What about the person killed, and the other critically wounded?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/flashback-5-days-ago-biden-said-put-trump-in-a-bullseye/ar-BB1pWbB1
Impossible to say from my keyboard. But what does not pass the smell test is the shooter taking that shot with any accuracy at all…given the distant and short setup time. At that range….center mass.
Now tell us how he managed to punch a perfect circle hole in his ear....
I don't see a hole in any photos, just a darker red spot.
In your LSD scenario, do the people in the crowd shoot themselves? Just asking for a friend....
Real shots were fired, the question is did one hit Trump?
Did you see the hole in Trumps ear? upper right ear right next to the head. Very unlikely that was a FF... Chip
Yeah, sure, Trump asked someone to shoot him just a few milimeters to the right to graze his ear. And Bolsonaro asked someone to stab him and cause him lifelong illness. Or maybe there is another more logical explanation, such as: there is a worldwide cabal of crazy psycopaths such as Killary Clinton or the several of the main leaders of the brazilian Partidos dos Trabalhadores that would gladly murder any viable oppostion.
Hillary killed JFK Jr in order to win election in New York.
Maybe Trump got shot with a childs pellet gun, while another shooter used an actual rifle to shoot the bystanders?
Never forget the Clintons assassinated Seth Rich after he did the DNC leaks. Julian Assange practically confirmed it without outright saying he was their source in a little seen interview. Supposedly the sister of the late Michael Ratner said she was told it by him in private, too, IIRC. Look at the way he nods at 1:01 answering the question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg
Yes. Set Rich is a testimony of what they are able to do.
That there is a multitude of crazy psychopaths worldwide is not debatable, but to understand it rationally, you need to understand that there are several factions, and factions within factions.
None of this is being strictly controlled, with the exception of the media. The job of the media is to blue pill people with propaganda, and allow the individual factions to create their own realities based on misinformation. The most important factor in winning any game is understanding how the game is played.
The media is the weapon of mass destruction for TPTB, and until we the people understand, and begin to do something about that, we will simply be jerked around the way we always are. The first step in rebuilding the Republic must be to regain control of the media. The truth is the greatest weapon against those who would enslave us.
You are aware that at least 2 are dead, aren't you? Show some respect, man. This was 100% real.
You don't ask for a shot to the head in a false flag. You get shot where you can recover, or at least hide some armor.
World wide, yes we watched Lula steal your election, as we also watched the
0biten’s steal ours. Every person was given their talking points, and I’m sure, had a few rehearsals to pull this off.
WEF has been telling us all along, just
what their plans were, for around
7.5 Billion of us.
So sorry for Brazil, and for US.
Perhaps this will be a pivot point.
They're not going to like the blowback of this assassination attempt on President Trump. The libtard democrats have now declared war against a normally peaceful group who own 90 percent of the guns in this country and know how to use them.
Doesn't matter what the civilians with guns do. It matters what the military does. If the military fractures it will be full Civil War. If the military stays more or less unified, whatever side it supports will win.
Wrong. The military is weak. maybe a million strong against 100 million gun owners. And the military is spread across the globe. They are nothing. And they won't fight against their own countrymen... Chip
They might not fight against their own country men, I will give you that. Most of those 100million gun owners aren't fit for war, nor are they organized in a manner that is conducive for combat. They'd be mopped up pretty quick. I do think the military would fracture, though which opens up a lot of possible outcomes.
Do you understand how BIG the US is???? You have no military background and no fucking clue what you are talking about Sir... Chip
Oh say can you see...Ansar Allah Houthis on the Potomac
As in Ukraine Donbas, sections of the army would " join the other side".
Regarding corporate media - the news is what we say it is, not reporting on the actual events .....
You are sure making a lot of assumptions. Mopped up? No military has won yet against a thousand paper cuts and the US military as it currently stands ism't even a threat.
When the entire security apparatus, the ones getting paid with the guns including military, reserves, national guard; assorted federal, state and city law enforcement agencies with the money, training, coordination, automatic weapons, big big blow up stuff are ordered to crack down, the majority will obey. Successful peasant's revolts are a historical non entity.
The only thing that will determine where the trained and armed police and military place their loyalties will be money, not ideology, as always.
100 million gun owning wimps who will do nothing
Come visit.
texas, misisipi, louisiana, nevada, etc ravaged by illegals and ex-slaves.
Oh enough with this Gaye "cold dead hands". 3 years of murder, mayhem and destruction and one Wisconsin teenager ended up shooting 3 Jewish felons.
Gun nuts just posture a lot. Claim they need guns to keep the government in line, yet never do so.
One of those types. You'll be crying and blubbering about "my rights" as they haul you to jail after a tangle with the K9 unit and a few days of roughing it following your valiant "come visit" moment. That's if you run. If you mouth off and shoot without the direst of attacks upon your person and don't run, your life will be a tangle of legal complexities because you're a "legal gun owner". Think outside of your fantasies.
If you're not white and your guns are illegal, negate my comment, you're good to go with few negative consequences. TBTB will look away. Cap, cap, cap away. Don't even have to pay for range time.
Yep, the clot shot tyranny proved that. Owning a gun doesn't mean one possesses a thinking mind.
Neither does not owning one, which should inform you that gun ownership doesn't define a person.
People with rifles are a poor match for modern drones, as is being proven in Ukraine.
Any sort of armed insurrection by the people would be met with satellite surveillance and targeted drone attacks, not direct confrontation. One psychopath sitting in a bunker can take out thousands of Citizens at will. Currently, the MIC is working on autonomous drones which do not even need a human controller which takes all human emotion out of the equation.
Without the support of at least a portion of the military, any revolution really does not stand a chance. They would do to the American people what they are doing to the Palestinians.....
Don't use rifles. What is being proven in Ukraine is that shotguns are more effective against drones. Also use anti drone drones to disable their attacks.
Aliexpress sells several anti drone "rifles", a host of anti drone jammers in a multitude of freqs, and a huge variety of drones of all sizes and capabilities.
I am sure China would happily help any uprising with equipment.
Drone jamming is a super easy electronics/RF transmission problem that can be solved by millions of those in the target group.
AI is not what they make it out to be. They will drown in their bunkers...
The resistance will use drones too. Probably more effectively than the blob...
It very much matters what the citizens do. 65 million voted Trump in 2020 and 90% ++ believe the election was rigged.
Assume that at least 90% of them are heavily armed and that many are experienced military vets.
If just 10% decide to take violent action that's a 6.5 million armed militia. If only 1% do it's still 650,000.
Even if the entire US military was united against such a force, I don't think it would win. However given that many in the military would side with the citizens militia, I am sure that what remained would be defeated and run to the hills.
My hope is that this doesn't happen, but after today it wouldn't surprise me if it does.
The military, the police, the national guard, the trained professional wielders of violence, they enforce the peace and keep the authorities safe. Historically, this class of men makes or brakes a revolution, and at the present moment they have very little confidence in, or respect for, or loyalty to the establishment.
At some point they might be given orders that they decide not to follow and then we are off to the races.
The ruling elite, including its obeisant media, have been waging war on the citizenry since @ least 2015
They come armed with pronouns. Be afraid.
Is that the US army :)
Notice that the official Secret Service statement managed to avoid mentioning that Trump was actually hit. They said one spectator killed, two spectators injured, but somehow left out the fact that Trump was shot, too. That is insane.
Just a side note - let's not use the anti-gun smear of "high powered caliber". Pretty much any caliber in existence can hit someone in the head and scatter brain matter, except perhaps the .22. High powered calibers would be like the 300 Winchester Magnum.
You managed to miss every point I made. Not some of them, but actually all of them.
You're confused about which Kennedy was shot with which caliber. JFK was shot by a 6.5mm (.283) Carcano. Robert Kennedy was shot 8 times by a .22 long rifle at point blank, as well as 5 other people were shot. There was no brain matter around when RFK was shot.
The 2nd point about "high powered caliber" is that the phrase is a smear talking point in the battle between the pro-gun and anti-gun sides in the United States. The anti-gun side tries to use as many scary words as possible, hence, they refer to even the tiniest calibers, such as the 5.56 (.223) caliber as "high powered" when in fact it's one of the weakest, tiniest calibers out there as far as center fire cartridges go. My point was even the weakest, tiniest center fire caliber is capable of scattering brain matter if it hits someone in the head.
I'll also not that when someone refers to a '.22', what they mean is .22 Long Rifle, which is not a center fire cartridge.
Fortunately for me, I own a dozen or so various weapons in .22 long rifle, and have shot 10s of thousand of .22 long rifle rounds at both targets and animals over the years. I don't need any 3rd party sources to know that my original statements were correct.
"even the tiniest calibers, such as the 5.56 (.223) caliber as "high powered" when in fact it's one of the weakest, tiniest calibers out there as far as center fire cartridges go. "
Sigh... what is it with the US that they don't teach physics and math any more? Power comes from the square of velocity. Double the velocity and you get four times the power. If you take a look at a .223 caliber round you'll see it has a huge amount of propellant in the case compared to a .22 anything. It gains its power from the much higher speed of the bullet more than the mass, although the mass also is significantly larger given the larger bullet compared to a .22.
The .223 is a fine antipersonnel round: it was designed to precess slightly (the way the axis of a top rotates rhythmically in addition to the spinning of the top) so when it hits a human it destabilizes into an off-axis trajectory within the body, delivering more energy into the target using the length of the bullet and not just poking a small hole through the target. So you get a small entrance wound and a far larger exit wound as all that energy blows more of the body out. Hence the "brain matter" described by witnesses.
Referring to a .223 as "high powered" is perfectly legitimate. There's a host of varmint rounds like that, relatively small diameter but powered by a lot of propellant to deliver high power.
You either know just enough about ballistics to use the words, but not actually understand how the numbers they produce are relative to other cartridges, or your reading comprehension sucks.
"it's one of the weakest, tiniest calibers out there as far as center fire cartridges go" Did you miss the part about "as far as center fire cartridges go"? Why are you comparing the .223 to a non center fire cartridge like the .22LR? The only people who do that either know nothing about ballistics or need some anti-gun talking points. Btw, the correct word to use is not "power". It is energy, measured in ft-lbs or Joules.
The anti-gunners refer to any, and every, centerfire caliber as "high powered". Sure, they're all high "powered" compared to a 22LR, but that's a silly comparison, nobody runs around shooting people with a .22LR.
If a .223 is "high powered", then every common center fire cartridge is "high powered", so it's a distinction without a difference. The .223 only delivers around 1250 ft-lbs, and a typical target and deer hunting cartridge like a 6.5 Creedmoor delivers 2500 ft-lbs. The .223 is weak, the idea it is "high powered' is laughable. There is a reason the .223 is illegal to hunt deer with in most states - it is too weak and it is unethical to shoot something the size of a deer with it. The likelihood of just wounding and not killing the deer is too high.
Lastly, I had to facepalm at the silly idea that the .223 is designed to tumble. It's designed just like any other center fire round. There is nothing specific about it that makes it more or less likely to tumble. That idea is a myth.
You should come join us at a PRC match sometime if there are any around your area. Ask lots of questions and you'll learn a lot. I wouldn't repeat any of what you said here, though, unless you just want to make an ass of yourself.
Correction: LHO was alleged to have used a 6.5mm (.283) Carcano.
But as we all know, or should, he didn't do it did he?
Robert was shot from behind with a .22 pistol, same as the Mossad uses.
It was a 6.5 caliber (.264 dia) surplus rifle , 6.5x52 mm Carcano Model 38, used by Lee Harvey Oswald.
140 grain bullet moving approximately
2100 feet per second. Though definitely not recommended, elephants have likely fallen to this round.
Fully automatic assault shovel would do the trick
a 22 from that range would also do the job. a simple ruger 1022 all day long with a cheap scope... Chip
22 LR nice range and accuracy. Ruger 1022 are nice. Probably wouldn't scatter brain matter, though. Maybe a 22magnum would.
Depends where it hit, and if it was a hollow point or ball... Chip
I've shot small game with the 10/22. Anything the size of a raccoon or cat is pretty much insta-death if you get anything close to a head shot. Maybe a bit of twitching afterwards. No exit wound. Entry wound is a clean puncture usually. I think on a person it wasn't going to blow out the occipital bone like what happened with Kennedy. Not strong enough for the job in .22LR
March 30, 1981,
John Hinckley Jr shot President Ronald Reagan with a Rohm single action,22 LR six shot revolver, and wounded three others, including W H Press Secretary James Brady, shot in the head, Policeman Thomas Delahanty, shot in the neck, and Secret Service Agent Timothy McCarthy, shot in the chest.
The sixth bullet ricocheted off the side of the Presidential Limousine, penetrated President Reagan’s left underarm, broke a rib, and punctured his lung, causing serious internal bleeding.
Although seriously close to death on arrival at George Washington University Hospital, he was stabilized, and the bullet was removed by way of exploratory surgery. He was released from said hospital on April 11, 1981.
WHY didn't the SS see the shooter on the rooftop. They should have, for they had their own sniper on the roof behind Trump.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/120388
And Russia already has something to say on the subject, and is taking immediate action. (this is fabulous, please take the time to open it)
https://t.me/RWApodcast/1674
Russians are labeling ammunition “For Trump’s Ear” (за ухо Трампа) and such.
Yes, I think it's fabulous.
I don't know if you had a chance to open my link above, it has photos of several missiles all "for Trump"
https://t.me/RWApodcast/1674?single
We take pride in our meme forces, thank you. Yours "Trump VS bullet, Biden VS stairs" compilation is also quite good.
What is SS?
Secret Service
Schutzstaffel
Waffen Secret Service….which is odd because in the world of clandestine agencies…..they arent very secretive.
The MOST urgent question is if Trump can trust the Secret Service.
I agree, that is a very serious question
I saw something about his detail having recently been changed out yesterday, haven't seen anything since. Could some of his guys taken vacation days?
That strategy did not work out very well for either of the Kennedy's ....
The really telling thing, is why no one responded to the witness alert of the man climbing up on the roof minutes before. The local police and the SS should have been in radio contact, and at the point the police were alerted, they should have immediately radioed the SS that they had an armed suspect climbing up on the roof.
And there were two guys in total, one who spoke directly to one of the police, the other is the guy who was waving and gesturing to police and SS that there was someone on the roof.
Lastly, I read that Loomer posted a photo of a ladder that was already leaning against the building before the sniper showed up. Insane.
In fact they did. A policeman, unarmed, climbed the ladder but the shooter pointed a gun at him so he withdraw. Within seconds the shooter fired shots at Trump (clearly stressed I suppose) and within 10th of seconds the Secret Service snipers killed the shooter. You can see the Snipers shoot almost simultaneously as Trump raise his hand to the ear. There is a sniper sitting with rifle on tripod and another one lying behind him. According to ”rumours” the Sniper did not have permission to take the shooter out but were following him all the time. Very strange.