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The water temperature right now is 27C. I live in Adler, in the foothills, not even on the shore, and have banana and palm trees growing in my yard. Before moving here permanently a few years ago, I lived in Moscow and the suburbs for 25 years, traveling to Sochi often, mostly in the winter, to ski. Suffice to say, I know these two locations better than any other.

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Then you know the area a lot better than I do, sorry. For comparison, it's 26C today here in St. Petersburg. The picture of Surovikin still looks like it could be in Sochi to me.

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The type of conifer that grows down here is "╨┐╨╕╤Е╤В╨░", whereas what's shown in that picture is the ubiquitous, more northern, "╤Б╨╛╤Б╨╜╨░". I haven't been everywhere in Sochi, so perhaps there is a place that looks like that somewhere, but I haven't seen it.

Btw, Sochi is very far north, and is also the world's northernmost subtropical climate. It's a truly unique place in that respect, a full fledged summer/beach, winter/ski resort.

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Thank you for that explanation. I am planning to buy a plot of land in an ╨б╨Э╨в, and looked at plots in Sochi. It's still possible for me! I've spent more time in Anappa and Galendzhik though. I can't decide if I want pine forests + lake + cold weather and no daylight in winter (plus the craziness of white nights in summer), or no forests + sea + warmer weather. You can definitely buy larger plots for the same money and close to the city up here.

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Odd sense of "north"! Sochi is north of Georgia but not far. It is FAR SOUTH of Moscow. It is considerably farther south than Crimea/Yalta. There are date palms in Yalta, not Moscow!

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furthermore, it is also lies roughly at the samelatitude as Spain, Italy, and Greece.

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