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1) do they think for a second they can "claim their investments" without getting into a shooting war with Russia? Being in the midst of the US MIC, I can tell you the simple answer, "no". The smoke and noise right now is just brinkmanship trying to save those same investments. No one is starting a shooting war with Russia. Being too weak and the lack of willingness to industrialize, suffer some privation and fight in the West are the big issues.

2) I was speaking of a time for the last 6-9 months for a Russian all-out offensive. I know precisely what the Russian state is doing here. They are wise to do so, and usually are professional and thoughtful about their actions, so i'm unsurprised, but presume that it wasn't the current leadership. Costs be damned would have won this thing already, which is the stuff people complain about with whining about "how long this is taking".

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