So if the Bolsheviks took over, then obviously the USA has free education, free medical care, subsidized housing as a right. Please let me know when that happened.
So if the Bolsheviks took over, then obviously the USA has free education, free medical care, subsidized housing as a right. Please let me know when that happened.
The US is far and away the least generous country in the West when it comes to free shit for the common man, but sure it's run by bolsheviks. Free shit for the elite is just par for the course in any capitalist oligarchy.
This. The place is running just like it was supposed to run. An oligarchy. I mean Washington was a shady real estate speculator far more so than trump. Washington even scammed French and Indian war veterans to get rich.
Rather than quibble about how historical terms and examples apply to the situation currently unfolding perhaps examining the mechanisms would be more productive.
If by universal you mean planetary then sure go ahead. Since they do not appear to be agreed upon HERE, then that's a lost cause. What I meant was that examining the mechanics and dynamics of "how" is often a more effective route to finding solutions. Examples abound.
Bro, the 1930s called, they want their political categories back. You, on the other hand, need to realize it's not the 1930s and all your categories are completely obsolete. The "bolsheviks" in America are now 100% allied with Global MegaCorp and they both push the same agendas. The "Left" is 100% aligned with the Deep State, the military, the intelligence agencies: all the stuff they used to protest against, but now they occupy the heights of ALL those institutions. And they are virulently hostile to the working class, in particular the white working class, who they are absolutely destroying. All in the name of "equity" and "justice," of course.
This has become super confusing. "Bolshevism" no longer signifies "Marxism and the rejection of capitalism". It means alignment with the deep state, the MIC, and big finance. What is one supposed to call people who actually still believe in Marxism and the rejection of capitalism ? Are they still called Bolsheviks ? That seems to present obvious difficulties in clear communication.
That's certainly part of it but it's a far more generalized problem than that. When someone is just using a word as an insult it's usually pretty obvious and one doesn't expect perfect accuracy in its usage. I might call a cop I didn't like a fascist in the heat of the moment but I'm not then going to create my own new definition of fascism that includes cops, Karens, and pentecostal preachers - all things I don't like. Outside of heated arguments words have to mean something or all discussion becomes pointless.
Make a word up. If you are honest, you'd admit borrowing a word because in your narrow circles it has bad meaning. Sort of like Trump / Trumper has in other narrow circles.
I generally agree. We insist on recycling 20th-century political taxonomy in our new age of woke. I think we should come up with new categories and new names.
But for now the old ones can still be useful. IтАЩd stipulate that the тАШprogressivismтАЩ so fashionable in the US Uniparty looks a lot more like 1920s-30s Eurofascism than Russian bolshevism.
Note the dominant role played by woke private corporations. Especially in the finance, defense and pharmaceutical sectors, it often appears corporate oligarchs are calling the shots, not the bureaucrats whom theyтАЩve тАШcapturedтАЩ ... much less questionably elected woke officials or their cabinet appointees. At the very least, the oligarchs seem generally to have coequal clout with government officials.
This relationship much more closely resembles Eurofascism or тАШnational socialismтАЩ of the 1920s-30s than it does bolshevism, under which major industries were directly state-run.
The waters are further muddied by western тАШlibertarians,тАЩ who regard bolshevism and fascism both as movements of the left, because theyтАЩre collectivist in essence, although fascism allowed corporations to remain privately owned and run.
If IтАЩm right about corporate dominance of US government, thatтАЩs a key difference between today and both fascism and especially bolshevism 100 years ago: Mussolini and Hitler were most definitely calling the shots, not the captains of industry who operated under state supervision.
The irony is that Trump and MAGA represent the real American worker's party now (not the GOPe, who are corporate shills). That's one reason the power structure went after Trump -- he sided with Main St. over Wall St. You'd think the old labor socialists would have flocked to his banner, but alas they bought into all the fairy tales about Trump being a "racist" or whatever other meaningless slander got tossed his way.
Trump is an opportunist. He appeals to labor sentiments because there are the votes. But this is just talk. When you look at his actual policies he gives them only crumbs. Most of his policies serve two other constituencies: his sponsors (who are mostly rich) and the national bureaucracy.
"The "Left" is 100% aligned with the Deep State, the military, the intelligence agencies: all the stuff they used to protest against, but now they occupy the heights of ALL those institutions"
You are engaging in conspiracy theory and blame shifting away from right wing capitalism, and putting the blame on fictional bogey men Marxists.
It's the same European Communists that are taken the World down and the US populace is in their way. We have the guns. You must understand the mechanism and how communism destroyed Russia. It is the same mechanism it uses to destroy the US and the West, however the medium is not economic it is cultural.
So if the Bolsheviks took over, then obviously the USA has free education, free medical care, subsidized housing as a right. Please let me know when that happened.
The US is far and away the least generous country in the West when it comes to free shit for the common man, but sure it's run by bolsheviks. Free shit for the elite is just par for the course in any capitalist oligarchy.
then it's not Bolsheviks, which is Marxist, it's exactly what Madison intended when he wrote the Constitution. https://www.kobo.com/ca/en/ebook/we-the-elites-1
If you don't know what your talking about, then you deserve what you get.
This. The place is running just like it was supposed to run. An oligarchy. I mean Washington was a shady real estate speculator far more so than trump. Washington even scammed French and Indian war veterans to get rich.
Rather than quibble about how historical terms and examples apply to the situation currently unfolding perhaps examining the mechanisms would be more productive.
Yes, and using a defined, universal vocabulary at hand would be a big help. If every word has to be guessed at, then what is the point.
If by universal you mean planetary then sure go ahead. Since they do not appear to be agreed upon HERE, then that's a lost cause. What I meant was that examining the mechanics and dynamics of "how" is often a more effective route to finding solutions. Examples abound.
Bro, the 1930s called, they want their political categories back. You, on the other hand, need to realize it's not the 1930s and all your categories are completely obsolete. The "bolsheviks" in America are now 100% allied with Global MegaCorp and they both push the same agendas. The "Left" is 100% aligned with the Deep State, the military, the intelligence agencies: all the stuff they used to protest against, but now they occupy the heights of ALL those institutions. And they are virulently hostile to the working class, in particular the white working class, who they are absolutely destroying. All in the name of "equity" and "justice," of course.
So "Trump Vocab" is universal in you life circles, good luck with getting on with the rest of the world.
This has become super confusing. "Bolshevism" no longer signifies "Marxism and the rejection of capitalism". It means alignment with the deep state, the MIC, and big finance. What is one supposed to call people who actually still believe in Marxism and the rejection of capitalism ? Are they still called Bolsheviks ? That seems to present obvious difficulties in clear communication.
I think some people use "Bolshevik" the way others use the word "Fascist", basically to mean "scary-sounding term to designate anyone I don't like"
That's certainly part of it but it's a far more generalized problem than that. When someone is just using a word as an insult it's usually pretty obvious and one doesn't expect perfect accuracy in its usage. I might call a cop I didn't like a fascist in the heat of the moment but I'm not then going to create my own new definition of fascism that includes cops, Karens, and pentecostal preachers - all things I don't like. Outside of heated arguments words have to mean something or all discussion becomes pointless.
Make a word up. If you are honest, you'd admit borrowing a word because in your narrow circles it has bad meaning. Sort of like Trump / Trumper has in other narrow circles.
They are seeking to blame shift the bad results of state capitalism, onto a secret group of leftist bogey men
"This has become super confusing. "Bolshevism" no longer signifies "Marxism and the rejection of capitalism". It means alignment with the deep state"
This is just made up.
I generally agree. We insist on recycling 20th-century political taxonomy in our new age of woke. I think we should come up with new categories and new names.
But for now the old ones can still be useful. IтАЩd stipulate that the тАШprogressivismтАЩ so fashionable in the US Uniparty looks a lot more like 1920s-30s Eurofascism than Russian bolshevism.
Note the dominant role played by woke private corporations. Especially in the finance, defense and pharmaceutical sectors, it often appears corporate oligarchs are calling the shots, not the bureaucrats whom theyтАЩve тАШcapturedтАЩ ... much less questionably elected woke officials or their cabinet appointees. At the very least, the oligarchs seem generally to have coequal clout with government officials.
This relationship much more closely resembles Eurofascism or тАШnational socialismтАЩ of the 1920s-30s than it does bolshevism, under which major industries were directly state-run.
The waters are further muddied by western тАШlibertarians,тАЩ who regard bolshevism and fascism both as movements of the left, because theyтАЩre collectivist in essence, although fascism allowed corporations to remain privately owned and run.
If IтАЩm right about corporate dominance of US government, thatтАЩs a key difference between today and both fascism and especially bolshevism 100 years ago: Mussolini and Hitler were most definitely calling the shots, not the captains of industry who operated under state supervision.
The irony is that Trump and MAGA represent the real American worker's party now (not the GOPe, who are corporate shills). That's one reason the power structure went after Trump -- he sided with Main St. over Wall St. You'd think the old labor socialists would have flocked to his banner, but alas they bought into all the fairy tales about Trump being a "racist" or whatever other meaningless slander got tossed his way.
Trump is an opportunist. He appeals to labor sentiments because there are the votes. But this is just talk. When you look at his actual policies he gives them only crumbs. Most of his policies serve two other constituencies: his sponsors (who are mostly rich) and the national bureaucracy.
"The "Left" is 100% aligned with the Deep State, the military, the intelligence agencies: all the stuff they used to protest against, but now they occupy the heights of ALL those institutions"
You are engaging in conspiracy theory and blame shifting away from right wing capitalism, and putting the blame on fictional bogey men Marxists.
Everything free only for American Satanists
It's the same European Communists that are taken the World down and the US populace is in their way. We have the guns. You must understand the mechanism and how communism destroyed Russia. It is the same mechanism it uses to destroy the US and the West, however the medium is not economic it is cultural.
The lithium is in your left drawer.
Nonsense.