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The Pentagon has boasted that military contractors plan to ramp up production of interceptors for the Patriot multi-launch system. Currently, Raytheon/Dynetics produces 500 per year. The intent is to turn out 550 in 2025. A 10% increase is not really “ramping.”

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And that 10% increase will probably be 5%.

Just like when the US tried to "ramp up" is artillery shell production but the ramp up keeps getting pushed back. Now, 2029 is when arty production will be ramped up.

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At double or treble the price.

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I believe the pre-war price of a 155MM shell was +-600$ and now it is already 4,500$ or a 8-fold increase.

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It's a very shallow ramp. Kind of like the wheelchair ramps mandated by the ADA.

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LOL!

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I want to see more terrorists attack on military compounds, preferably the one that involved Mossad like 911.

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How many missiles does it fire at each incoming object? Two? So Russia will fire an extra 25 projectiles/drones and they will be back to where they are now.

Clown show (on the cheap).

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Listen to the US and they act as if they were not involved in the start of the conflict and can now arrogantly decide the end. All the death and destruction is the sole responsibility of the US. They should decide nothing.

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Every US Military bases & embassy must be erased from the earth.

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As it seems the US won't get its mits on either Ukraine or Russia's resources to reflate its balance sheet I'd guess that when reality hits home they'll just close shop.

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Yankland still has dibs on all the oil, gas and minerals it and Israel have stopped Palestinians from extracting. Israel has sold mining right to resources that it has no claim to, Jared Kushner is involved in a company pre-selling real estate in the Gaza Strip.

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Defeated warriors go to war & then seek to win

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DJT has tapped Matt Whitaker, his former Acting Attorney General, to be the U.S.’s ambassador to OTAN.

Surfacing recently are positions Whitaker took in a 2015 debate against Senator Joni Ernst when he characterized Crimea’s *return* to Russia as “not a threat to 'vital' U.S. interests. And I would look at, really, when our vital interests are being threatened,” he elaborated. “I don't see that happening with Crimea, for example, but there are ways we could strengthen NATO and the European Union. Increased military spending is not one of them. I didn’t support Obama committing U.S. troops to Syria. I did not support Bush invading Iraq.”

Whitaker’s dovish positions, if confirmed, will stand in stark contrast to OTAN allies who claim the war in Ukraine threatens the entire transatlantic alliance.

Scuttlebutt still indicates that DJT will name Ric Grenell as his Special Envoy to Ukraine, a seasoned diplomat w/ a skill-set no one on Joe's team ever exhibited. If so, Grenell and Whitaker would signal a formidable counterweight to DJT's Cabinet warhawks.

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My working theory at the moment is that DJT is preparing to negotiate but cannot do so yet. To gain leverage ahead of time he can send a message via proposed appointments that there is a steel fist within the velvet glove. I prefer that theory to the one that he would pursue WW3 as a policy. Assuming we get to his inauguration absent armageddon.

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DJT is too much of a pragmatist to seek WW3: where's the prosperity arc?

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Mr Trump is a messianic jew, and so should not be expected to embrace pragmatism.

I have seen him looking heavenwards and stating "I am the Chosen One."

The guy is an undiagnosed lunatic.

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163 Rabbis bestowed the Silver Crown of the Torah upon their new messiah Zion Don, the traitor Trump. He works for Israel, the Yankland presidency is just a tool for Israel's use. The kikes say this openly.

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I hope you are right. Otherwise we are in for a deathride.

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Traitor Trump's new ambassador for Israel, Elise Stefanik. I said for Israel not to Israel, because that is what she is.

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very clear indeed. weird times to live in

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it is actually great times to be alived, we literally at the front seat of Armageddon. Enjoy.

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you have an interesting definition of 'great times' here, friend..

and I agree, I think we are very close to all-out war out of 'oh, they are just bluffing' stupidity. same with P never enforces _any_ redlines which is utter nonsense

- 2007 , Russia says , stop meddling with our neighbors and pushing your alliance eastward. Ha! says 'the West' and 08.08.08 five-day war happens where 'NATO trained' Georgian army gets crushed by 'primitive' shovel-bearing russkies.. Import-substitution program is turned on at full force for domestic self sufficiency, first in military and then in all aspects.

- 2013 , Russia says any unrest in Kiev provoked by EU/NATO should be negotiated. Ha! says the West again , we do what we want including guaranteeing agreement and then throwing it out a day later (Yanukovich). Russia moves ahead and Crimea is 'reunited' with Russia.

- 2021 , Russia says do not push on us, let's talk about NATO and indivisible security in Europe. Ha! says the west and SMO/SVO starts in Feb after USA did everything possible to trigger it. 'ruble will be rubble' -> 4th biggest economy in the world bypassing 'allies-satellites-vassals' of Japan and Germany

- 2024, Russia says if you fire at all (your troops, your equipment, your targeting, your munitions ,et) , we fire back and it would hurt, like a lot. Ha! says the demented west and we are watching that now..

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Zacktly...

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I like history, it is just too bad the next generation probably won't get the chance to make papers about what happened.

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I just checked out National Interest.https://nationalinterest.org/ - the choice of news for DC warhawks. It is full of articles about how Russia's military is in terrible condition and collapsing, the home front is rebelling, losses are mounting, that in an effort to not conscript women Yemenis have to be used, and that a few more pushes will bring the edifice down. If this is really a reflection of views in the Beltway then best stock up on tinned food and iodine tablets. These people are dangerously delusional.

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If they believe it is deeply worrying. And sadly they are. There are NO people up there with clear brains that can achieve afterthoughts before primal instincts. The only thinking western (former) leader is french: de Villepin.

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Very interesting studies have been done on a now-banned but simple substance called DMSO - the FDA don't want you to have access to it.

It is highly protective against gamma radiation damage - so well worth while to buy some.

I now have 2 kgs of it - the daily dose is between 3 - 20 gm, and no evidence has ever been produced that it is toxic at any dose.

Astonishingly, children with Down's syndrome who take it for a few months lose the typical morphology of that condition, and their mental abilities skyrocket to be similar to those achieved by so called normal children.

Also disassembles the protein tangles associated with Alzheimers, and significantly impacts the symptoms of Parkinson's disease.

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Just used some 10 minutes ago. I have had a lot of damage to the meat sack and DMSO is what keeps me going. Very cheap. I get mine in liquid form and use a perfume bottle as an applicator.

All positive and no negatives from use.

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And do you notice how every step of the way it has been Russia forced to react? That's not an ideal strategy.

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The way they reacted the other day is not the sort of reaction you want to provoke.

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Spot on. The self-deluding ”there are no red lines” is guaranteed to escalate into something self-combusting.

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We shall soon see! In the meanwhile, enjoy yourself and help others.☦️

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Likewise, friend. 26 days to the Winter Solstice, I hope you enjoy it.

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I need more popcorn.....

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As in folklore they say post apocalypse popcorn taste better since it comes with extra Gamma.

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Sounds tempting….probably won't need my microwave oven anymore.

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The old school Chinese position on that was,

寧為太平犬,不做亂世人

"It is better to be a dog in a time of peace than a man in a time of chaos"

Hopefully the modern Chinese government agrees.

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I wouldn't mind being a dog 'cos I could lick my balls when the missus refuses.

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There is a curse; “May you live in interesting times”.

I think it’s another english- fabricated “chinese-proverb” thing, but it is relevant.

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Well, between Trump's warhawk picks and Biden doing his best to escalate the fuck out of the theater before he leaves, it's safe to say that Total Hohol Death is assured.

As for the mercenaries and profiteers eying Ukraine's land and wealth, can only hope all the war-jackals who come to Ukraine in search of money will never leave it.

Also, the Oreshnik strikes were close to the Dnieper river IIRC, a lot of shills were initially mocking Russia for blowing up nothing but water. Well, if the strikes opened a channel from the rivers into the underground workshops, the ensuing underground flooding would fuck them up really hard without having to completely demolish the facilities. A bit hard to produce heavy missiles when your entire production floor is submerged in water, mud and NAFO corpses.

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I read somewhere that Biden is going to be impeached. Anyone else picked that up? As it is not mentioned everywhere, I'm guessing it's not credible.

(Even though it is necessary to stop the madness a little bit)

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I only read that Glenn Beck suggested it. Nothing more.

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Seems unlikely unless there is a actual war cabinet in the makings.

If they wanted to do that, the time was last year. Though it seems to me that those who rule were very comfortable with a vegetable in the high seat.

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It is credible, three different senators have prepared papers and having them checked for legality right now. Their words as individuals. There have been several interviews done, so it is real.

Sorry I can't name them, I'm not a Yank and only follow their politics because unfortunately they are generally fucking up the world.

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The conflict in Ukraine did not start in February 2022 of course. It did not start with the CIA-backed coup in Kiev against an elected president in February 2014 either. It did not even start with the U.S.-financed Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004. This conflict goes back at least to the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany in 1945 when the United States and its imperialist allies immediately responded by creating the Cold War with a newly forged imperialist instrument known then as NATO but which I now call OTAN. The Alliance deployed Ukrainian fascist collaborators to covertly attack Moscow.

After World War Two, the CIA and Nazi remnants, like spymaster Major General Reinhard Gehlen, were united in purpose along with the British MI6 to defeat the Soviet Union. What is transpiring today in Ukraine is the culmination of a systemic conflict, essentially about projecting and maintaining Western imperial power.

Russia is not bluffing. It won’t back down because of the historical sacrifices it has made already to defeat fascist tyranny – 27 to 30 million dead in WW II alone. The Russian’s pain and suffering from imperialist aggression make it defiant and resolute in a way that the Western regimes could never comprehend or emulate.

If Project Ukraine winds down, it’s not as if peace will guide the planets or love steer the stars—there’s a hint of what’s to come: the CIA has been in Taiwan since 1947, almost as long as its presence in Ukraine.

Stir it up, little darlin’

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Ukraine started with Moses going after the lost tribe, they’re still searching for them but they will never find them. Some sources say there were/are 50 cabal, Zionist around Biden directly and 3000 indirectly. Now Trump got 30 million, American and Israeli Zionist together. Do not hope for any peace, eternal peace is fcked. With 30 million sworn warmongers even Mars is not safe. This earth testicle is Zion if not other planets are at stake, MPO a WW started with Moshe Moses and that lost tribe is making a lot of money, so they beter get lost forever.

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The little known book of the Old Testament, edited out of the final version, details Moses's time poking around in Taiwan

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Looking for chips to go with all those fish that jesus had on offer?

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Plus a little walking-on-water action might come into play, crossing the Taiwan Strait

The visuals would have been an impressive feat of Shock & Awe in themselves

More legend & lore for Moses

During his time they might have said Formosa

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Was his name Chiang Kai-shek back then?

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The lost tribes exist exactly as God first described them, as spreading throughout the world, and being numbered as the stars of heaven, and the sand of the sea.

They are those whom would later - after their expulsion from Israel by Sennacherib and Nebuchadnezzar, and their migration northwards - be described as the Germanic and Anglo Saxon tribes, who then of course spread right round the world, differentiating themselves from any of the other races of mankind.

They should never ever be confused or conflated with the so called "chosen people," who as we know, hate them with an undying hatred, and have flooded their lands with dark skinned sub races, and whose intention, as the "chosen one" Trump openly admits, is ultimately to destroy them entirely.

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Indeed the uprising in Ukraine continued after the end of ww2 in Ukraine itself and in Poland. In Poland it ended with plan Vistula few years after the war. Ukrainian part of the uprising went on for a decade. I was always wondering if UPA had support from the West.

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You're a pretty smart guy, Cheeto, so I'm somewhat bewildered by how little you understand.

There never was a "nazi Germany" for a start - they were National Socialists, and brought nothing but prosperity and happiness to a Germany destroyed by jewish intrigue, assisted by their running dogs, the British and French.

As to the CIA etc wanting to destroy the SU post WW2 - no.

The intention was to use a fake phony and false sense of antagonism ( to a nation they spent the previous six years supporting to the hilt ) to maximise profits accruing from massive militarization on both sides.

As to the SU "defeating fascist tyranny," - not exactly.

The ONLY reason that Hitler invaded the SU was to pre empt what was a massive military invasion force which Stalin had assembled on his borders.

One million paratroopers trained and ready to go, against Germany's 4000, is hardly the sign of an empire focussed on defence.

Surely you must understand that Hitler, deeply engaged in a conflict in the west, would not then take on the massive force represented by the SU, unless it was an existential threat to him.

So far more sensible to describe the situation as Germany and Hitler attempting to de fang communist tyranny - which he did, the result being that communism then was able only to overrun the entirety of eastern Europe, rather than the whole thing, as the comintern philosophy had impelled Stalin to attempt.

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You left out that the Bolsheviks infiltrated and overran Yankland in the late 1800s.

They have had total control since 1913.

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USA is done. Hope Putin & Xi knows what to do next with Iran and Israel. As for Russian weapon, people do hope Putin finally goes after Zelensky and the rest of cabinets. Fk them all, hell is waiting.

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BRICS+ is going gangbusters! BRICS Pay had a flawless trial run just on a month ago, and by all reports is superior to the SWIFT system. I am hoping BRICS cancels the Petrodollar as a Winter Solstice present to the world.

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During Trump's first Presidency his foreign policy was fairly effective - more so than I thought it would be - in a large degree because he surrounded himself with insane neocon warmongers who would issue bloodcurdling threats before Trump entered the room as the cool, rational dealmaker who wanted peace. Kind of a modern take on TR's "speak softly and carry a big stick."

It seems like Trump is going to try and re-cycle this strategy. The problem is the objective factors no longer favour such a strategy; the US has been defeated militarily in Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and the Red Sea. Leftist ideology is visibly rotting the heart out of the US military establishment and its attendant MIC has been shown to be incapable of producing sufficient and effective munitions. The economic power of the US is clearly waning as an unprecedented hurricane of sanctions have failed to swamp the Russian ship of state. Numerous countries are decoupling from the dollar.

This time around the neocon threats will ring hollow and when Trump enters the room it will be as a huckster used car salesman with very little of a deal to offer.

Perhaps I will be proved wrong (as I was for 45) but the outlook is not rosy.

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Consider fusty dusty OTAN, helmed now by Mark Rutte, who has not gotten the memo about neocon threats ringing hollow. OTAN, as front & center as an alliance can be, can't read the room: 1000 days after the SMO commenced, the world is vastly different.

Strategies which the U.S.-led OTAN thought relevant & timely on 23 February 2022 were already obsolete in ways no one within the alliance could apprehend or interrogate.

And they still can't.

A high-caliber mental illness makes people like Baerbock tell ordinary German citizens that they must expect in the future to pay a Ukraine Tax in order to keep this super-losing endeavor going

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During 45 Trump was clearly just using these neocons for specific goals; hence, the very high turnover rate within that administration. Or at least that was one reason.

For 47 the whole government seems to have been "Trump Proofed" to the extent the deep state literally allowed him to win (helped him to win as well?) and it seems that now the neocons are fixing to use Trump like they themselves were previously used.

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Hungary potentially offers post-Cold War 21st Century leadership possibilities, as does Slovakia, should OTAN attempt to find its relevance. Türkiye, never Russophobic, creates intriguing synergy.

The tough thing is that OTAN--that is to say Old Europe OTAN--can't pivot. Pivoting is anathema. The alliance even marginalizes & attempts to isolate Victor Orban.

Orban = "the stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone"

Curiously, DJT has strong rapport w/ Orban.

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It is interesting to see the actual rapport that these new-era leaders (Orban, Vucic, Fico, Abe (RIP), Duterte (another casualty of the empire), Bolsanaro (another casualty), and Putin all seem to have. It stands in stark contrast to the dead-eyed 'consensus' whenever the puppets of the empire gather to mouth the official platitudes like a landed, dying fish.

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Joe's admin aided & abetted OTAN's dead-eyed carp demeanor.

It's interesting that southeastern Europe potentially holds out hope for new-era leaders: Make Europe Yugoslavia Again.

I don't count Georgia out either. Here's hoping they can maintain.

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Catch up on the latest from Duterte,,, his daughter this time. Vice President Sarah Duterte just publically threatened to assassinate President Marcos yesterday after he, and no doubt the CIA, threatened to kill her for her objection to American soldiers setting up shop in the Philippines again.

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And the worst part, if you believe German opinion polls, two thirds of Germans are in favor and with the next Schwarz/Gruen Coalition they will have the conservative, green, globalist warmonger, Friedrich Merz, as Bundeskanzler. Gute Nacht Deutschland!

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Hard to see the inspiration in this mindset or any kind of generative longevity. It's as if something has smothered Germany

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Or Germany has actively self-annihilated.

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Germany has long given up on being a country of 'Dichter und Denker' (poets and thinkers), but so has the rest of the West.

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Sad to lose the Goethe-ness

Und wenn der Mensch in seiner Qual verstummt, gab mir ein Got zu sagen was ich leide

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What might that be.

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Das endgultige lösung for Germany. Most people thought Germany was prospering and were selfgoverning. And indeed, from Stunde Null, the germans built up their country and through enormous Arbeit they won their freedom. Sort of. Not until 1991 Germany got their freedom and when Schröder did the Northsteeam deal, US went bananas. UK and US has always sabotaged the locomotive of Europe. They dont want a strong Germany and US does everything to sever Geramny/Russia ties. Remember peaceloving Obongo tapping Merkels phone?

CIA created all the newspaper in Geramny after 1945 and hace since got the hold of them. Die Welle is a CIA-asset. So are the lugenpress.

Germans are the most indoctrinated people in the world, especially the young ones. I think Scholtz has been weak. And no wonder with those crazy bats like FDP and die Grunen. Best thing he has done is to stonewall usages of Taurus against Russia.

With Merz….Untergang 2.0

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This is indeed so. Pretty odd considering that majority does not support war against Russia. But that is what happen in Germany.

Considering wider view the West went so far with sanctions and war that it will be tough to return from that. The plan seems to be to destroy and possibly partition Russia. If so the outcome will be a disaster independent of the success.

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Our 🇺🇸economic industrial base is being rapidly rebuilt, partly because of COVID, partly due to Russia sanctions impacting on us, the supply chain disruptions and collapse of globalism are actually good for America.

The alliance and NATO ?

Europe has to decide to live, with or without us, either way better for us if without,

I am against this war, like most veterans. Lunacy.

As to the anemic wartime munitions production; true, but that is a function of Pentagon Bureaucracy and a 6 year procurement cycle from identifying a requirement to contract; before anything is built.

That’s PPBOE (the DOD budgeting nightmare bureaucracy) and few government departments cry out for Efficiency like DOD. I go into detail to emphasize forced inefficiency in DOD budgeting does not reflect on the actual real economy, which is getting quite healthier rapidly. Don’t be misled.

I very much doubt Trump will escalate the War, the war hawks are being gulled or disingenuous- please recall this is the most dangerous transition since 1860-and again recall his first term.

As noted above he lets the Hawks screech then plays the dealmaker. For that matter Obama stayed out of it as much as he could. It took a POTUS as weak as Biden to let the Neocons run wild setting up a “second Israel.” Trump is far stronger going in than any President since FDR, easily. Easily.

MAGA doesn’t want any more wars, the military caste (again, we’re 80% generational) doesn’t want any more wars, and Trump certainly isn’t going to do any favors for the Deep State, who are the drivers on the war. Hegseth is well known to vets by the way and won’t be in favor of adventures either. Hegseth is there to clean out the Pentagon. Trump doesn’t have to care about his appearances via Putin, seriously.

Nothing more than ending this lunatic folly is of concern to his base. His agenda is domestic.

Trump and his real wrecking crew including Musk, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, AG nominee Bondi is coming to wreck the Deep State.

The DS wasn’t incorrect to try and jail or kill him, their mistake was failing so badly. This man is now in effect a King. He’s a King that wants to clean house, not continue inane, useless and losing adventures abroad.

Again I’m a veteran and against the war, I’m not alone.

Don’t worry about Trump escalation 😂 and ignore transition rhetoric.

Cheers

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I hope you are correct, but experience tells me to be cautious.

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A difference to his first term might be that meanwhile his daughter has married Kushner and Ivana passed away.

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Excellent comment and I agree fully. Trump can't do anything until 1/20, so the choices in various positions are for show purposes mostly. Concerning Hesgeth, a veteran with a conscience, the DS via their patsies in the senate, want to derail his confirmation because he's an existential threat to the MIC, channeling Trump's policies toward peace and cooperation, as opposed to the current, ongoing destabilization and conflict.

Just want to point out that our author, Simplicius, places too much emphasis on reportage from the likes of BBC, the Economist, Politco, NYTimes, and other propaganda organs. Notice how WaPo has been toning down the rhetoric for months, first, by not endorsing anybody, now, by slowing their roll re: Ukraine/Russia. Bezos is no fool. He knows he better toe the line with Donald or end up badly damaged, like in the direction Google is headed. 56 more days to wait this out. Blinken and Sullivan probably already have their passports handy. They may end up the major casualties from this fiasco. IMO, they should be tried for treason, along with a handful of other operatives in and around congress.

I have great faith that the U.S. can extricate itself from the mess created by four years of DS control. Trump is the tip of the spear. The American people have had enough.

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Not rosy, that is, for the Empire.

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At what point of his last presidency did Ivanka marry Kushner? Start, middle, end? I sometimes wonder if or to what extent that event in his family might have redirected Trump's thinking and loyalties. Now he still does have a European Eastern block wife, but for instance Ivana who may have been a strong pro Eastern block factor for him has passed away, reducing his intra-familial bonds to that part of the world, and consequently the 'moral surveillance' on his attitudes and actions in that regard.

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There's no leftist ideology in the US military 🤣😂🤣

Fucking 🤡

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First use of kinetic orbital bombardment. Direct conversion of kinetic energy into heat...same a an asteroid impact.

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Ukrainosaurus soon will go extinct

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Not only heat - tremendous shock wave as well resulting both from the heat and the kinetic impact - truly a kiss from the gods.

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Demonstrating a weapon which the West hasn’t a prayer to destroy or to deploy itself is not escalation: it is a harbinger of forthcoming doom. Make peace, you idiots! Not even Elon’s fancy pair of chopsticks can pluck Hazel out of the sky.

In a side by side comparison w/ the Oreshnik, America’s Hall Pass to Ukraine—a permission slip, if you will—to launch ATACMS is a feeble riposte. Ukraine apparently has a limited number of long-range missiles anyway. Once they’ve fired them @ Christmas Markets in Bryansk & Belgorod, Ukraine will still be losing on the original LOC & also in Kursk, where Russia has pushed Ukraine out of 60% of the territory it surprisingly seized back in August. The degeneration of the West’s strategy has reached an endgame Western cheerleaders of Project Ukraine find unexpected but which non-Western observers find inevitable .

Winning the war, steaming full speed ahead on the path of victory, Russia would commonsensically be disinclined to use nuclear weapons unless as a last resort. In 1000 days of the SMO VVP has not exhibited a tendency toward hot-headed aggressive reprisals. Moreover, Russia cannot be bought off w/ a gift of territory in Donbas or a a lifting of economic sanctions without a deal that resolves their fundamental security concerns in Ukraine. Joe’s admin has tried to force a poisoned chalice on Russia, the latter of whom is having none of it: the Kursk Incursion did nothing to deter Russia but only strengthened it, giving it more resolve.

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Assuming that the Hazel is as deadly as Simplicus reports [subject the fog of war], then NATO leaders/generals etc will know that their deep underground bunkers will not save them if conventional war breaks out. They would be first on the target list IMHO. Notwithstanding a decapitation strike would make a war hard to fight and win, the prospect of meeting one's maker might concentrate minds. And I think this might be behind the reported "panic" within NATO senior ranks. The only response would be WMD which leads to MAD. So I would not be surprised if NATO classifies the non-nuke Hazel as a WMD as they have no counter. Either way, I think if the cold war went hot so to speak, we are looking at a worst case scenario very quickly. I don't buy the theory that NATO can attack Russia via its Ukraine proxy and that this will be OK.

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Agreed.

Guiding Storm Shadows and ATACMS from within Ukraine toward targets in Russia makes the Anglo-Americans direct & explicit belligerents in the war.

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The withering snake(s)! I do not like the snake(s). Nope, not one bit. God, must guide Mother Russia. Each breath I take to my early grave is for the Sun to Rise in the East. 🐈‍⬛❤️🇷🇺💙

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The ground penetration of the RV's explains why there is no big flash or explosion as you would normally see, I have to say the video of them piercing the clouds is truly terrifying.

https://rumble.com/v5stc2e-mirv-1.html

https://rumble.com/v5stcfb-mirv-2.html

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"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen'

Revelations 1 : 5

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I have said from the start, the Brits and US will never agree to a peace on Russia's terms, why would they?. European pragmatism regarding the conflict decreases the further you get from Russia's borders. The yapping Baltic chihuahuas are of no consequence.

It seems Russia's best chance for a speedy end would be to turn Ukraine's military leadership against their political leadership. Recall that Ukrainian military stationed in Crimea were encouraged to defect, and allowed to keep their rank and pension status. Most did so.

Granted, it will be a harder sell than the Ukrainian soldiers in 2014 Crimea who were never shot at. After 3 years of war there is a high degree of psychological entrenchment, but mass defection is not mission impossible if morale is as bad as it seems.

It would effectively neutralize the intransigent Brits and Americans.

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A military coup into a negotiated surrender remains the most likely ending to the conflict in my opinion.

Simply because NATO has no space to offer Russia what Russia actually wants. So the war will have to go on past any patriotic military man’s acceptable limits.

No doubt the whole military chain of command is tightly packed with NATO loyalists to prevent anything like that from happening. But avoiding it will certainly test CIA/MI6 ability to control their golem in the coming months.

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Crimeans turned their coats because they weren’t Ukrainian military after all, Crimea was still Russia. A handful of Western Ukrainian detachments tried to fight back.

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In response to Oreshnik’s debut, Joe’s Pentagon is allegedly providing Ukraine w/ hundreds of additional Patriot and AMRAAM interceptors to strengthen its air defense, though Tom Karako, director of the Missile Defense Project at CSIS, told Defense One mag that Russia’s new missile “would be a hard thing to defend against.”

Featuring a MIRV payload—multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle—the Oreshnik “presents a wicked hard problem,” according to Karako, “trying to hit multiple objects if it’s coming in super fast, especially if it’s an intermediate-range ballistic missile on a lofted trajectory.”

Karako cautioned against all the hype surrounding Oreshnik’s combat-test, though: “I don’t think we should fall for it. Ukraine should continue firing ATACMS and Storm Shadows into Russia. And we should supply other equipment that gives Ukraine a winning strategy, no-kidding, and puts them in a better position to negotiate from a position of strength.”

In other words, keep on keeping on.

The Institute for the Study of War chimed in additionally: “Neither the Oreshnik ballistic missile strike nor Putin's November 21 statement represent a significant inflection in Russian strike capabilities or likeliness to use a nuclear weapon. The West maintains credible deterrence options and Putin's nuclear saber-rattling should not constrain Western officials from aiding Ukraine.” 

In other words, nothing to see here.

Although the ISW claims VVP is “nuclear saber-rattling” in adjusting Russia’s nuclear doctrine on 19 November, it is unnecessary for him to be the first to reach for the Red Button simply because his military has an ample array of conventional weapons with which to put the hurt on Ukraine and, if need be, the West long before a nuke would be existentially essential.

Minimizing the Oreshnik’s effect on the U.S.’s strategy in Ukraine, the ISW maintains a “steady as she blows” forward stance, which is important in their *public* statements. Ditto w/ Tom Karako and other experts in the West: best to minimize & diminish. “Putin is bluffing” is the trope that comes into play. Privately, though, one must believe that more got shattered on 21 November than merely the Yuzhmash plant in Dnepropetrovsk.

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I called it repeatedly back in the day: Trump's idea of negotiations was to threaten Russia with $500 bln of arms supplies to Ukraine if Putin doesn't back down, from the very beginning. They will keep going at it until either massive public protests make them reconsider or Putin will finally be forced to strike something of theirs. Given the still-permeating euphoria of Trump’s voters, it's likely to be the latter.

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The Ukies say no such thing as a wonder weapon. Early satellite pics showed no damage. The Ukies were right.

The Russians fooled the world with a fancy firework show.

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Assuming a solid metal kinetic penetrator travelling at close to Mach 10 then the average factory roof is going to offer about as much resistance as tissue paper does to to a bullet, transferring almost no energy to the above-ground structure and perhaps doing no more than blow out the windows, all invisible from low-res satellite images. All the energy is going to be dumped into the ground during its penetration to a depth of several metres. I don't know whether the shock wave would be sufficient to shatter the foundations and all the utility connections or whether the resultant cloud of vaporised rock and metal in an enclosed underground space would be enough to destroy everything down there, but if I were you I'd wait for a tour of the basement levels before making a fool of yourself by calling it nothing more than a fireworks show.

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Those car alarms going off a few miles away suggests something like that.

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No reports on shockwawes or ”earthquakes” from Dnipropetrovsk. Should it not show up?

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We're only talking the kinetic energy equivalent of maybe a 2000 lb bomb per warhead. Multiply by 32 for the entire barrage. That's a pretty big bang but not so big that it's going to turn the basements of the entire complex into "dust" or show up on distant seismographs. I don't actually have the expertise or intuition to guess how effective the strike might be which is why I would want the underground video tour. I do wonder whether the shock might compromise the foundations badly enough to make the complex a tear-down (even if it looks basically undamaged from above) and whether the heat generated (enough to vaporize metal at the point of impact) would be enough to propagate destruction throughout the underground spaces. Aerial pictures and Ukrainian denials are not enough to tell the story.

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If you can picture illustrations of the amount of spalling in the interior of a tank turret being struck by an AT round.. That is what the concrete bunkers under Yuzmash would look like.

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Nice animated map, and Lindsey Humanity-be-Damned Graham is a ghoul. Let’s hope President Artful Dealer doesn’t do anything rash. Maybe his minions’ rumors of escalation are an unofficial opening bid to get Putin thinking about who blinks first. Then Trump could try following up with a kinder, gentler, and official offer. He should put Zelensky and Blinken on silver platters and serve them to Moscow as truce offerings.

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Indeed, Lindsey Graham, a monstrosity identifying as a human.

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