The dual hype surrounding both the Oreshnik ‘secret weapon’ and Ukraine’s ATACMS/Storm Shadow strikes on Russian territory has died down, to reveal the continuing pattern of Russian troop advancement on every front.
The Pentagon has boasted that military contractors plan to ramp up production of interceptors for the Patriot multi-launch system. Currently, Raytheon/Dynetics produces 500 per year. The intent is to turn out 550 in 2025. A 10% increase is not really “ramping.”
Just like when the US tried to "ramp up" is artillery shell production but the ramp up keeps getting pushed back. Now, 2029 is when arty production will be ramped up.
Yes, this was a famous bit of bait & switch. A selling point of this ship class was the crazy long ranged "over the horizon" gun system with rocket assisted GPS guided ammunition which was supposed to allow precision strikes 60 miles inland without needing an aircraft (and more cheaply than available missiles), claimed capable of firing up to 10 rounds per minute. However, the new guided munition system was incapable of use against SHIPS. Because, why would any USN vessel ever have to fight another ship using their main guns again? That's so 1940s.
Then the cost started getting jacked up as availability dates were pushed back, while profitability for the defense industry and insiders had to be kept up, all as usual.
When the plug was finally pulled, a ton of money had been poured down the MIC drain with 0 stocks of the promised ammunition or functional deployable weapon systems in return. Nice business if you can get it.
As an engineer, I can't wrap my head around the hull crack issue. I mean, a similar hull-cracking problem plagued the Liberty ships of WWII, where a new, largely untried on this scale, technology of welding the hulls (as opposed to riveting) was tried to speed up production.
But the Liberty ships were practically disposables to begin with, welding work was done hastily and shoddily by Rosie the riveter and other incompetents, and the engineering of the day relied on rules of thumb and the most rudimentary (to us) approximations.
Fast forward to the 21st century, where ship design incorporates numerical stress simulations of the actual frame in superpositions of all possible wave regimes, extreme yacht and powerboat hull design (not to even mention the military equivalent) is advanced to the space age, and the Japanese-invented quality control methodology is ubiquitous in industry.
A repeat of the Liberty problem, fast-forward 80 years, can only be the result of GROSS, scandalous incompetence in the design bureaus. Its equivalent would be inconceivable in a vanilla civilian industry such as the design of increasingly high-performance steam turbines or car powerplants. But here it is. It makes one wonder what else hides in these boondoggle projects, and will emerge at the worst possible moment to bite us in the ass. Such as the F35 lemon, to name just one example.
How many missiles does it fire at each incoming object? Two? So Russia will fire an extra 25 projectiles/drones and they will be back to where they are now.
In the first recorded destruction of a Patriot in Ukraine, the Patriot operators panic-fired their entire complement of missiles against a single incoming Russian missile. Guess what. So your estimate of two Patriots per threat is off by an order of magnitude. :->
Listen to the US and they act as if they were not involved in the start of the conflict and can now arrogantly decide the end. All the death and destruction is the sole responsibility of the US. They should decide nothing.
As it seems the US won't get its mits on either Ukraine or Russia's resources to reflate its balance sheet I'd guess that when reality hits home they'll just close shop.
Yankland still has dibs on all the oil, gas and minerals it and Israel have stopped Palestinians from extracting. Israel has sold mining right to resources that it has no claim to, Jared Kushner is involved in a company pre-selling real estate in the Gaza Strip.
Almost as if a particular group of capitalists consolidated control of and then strip mined the USA & other Western economies for their personal benefit?
And then planned to avoid being personally involved with the costs, avoiding any dangerous blowback, outright societal collapses or nuclear wars which might result from their plays, instead retiring to their compounds in New Zealand, Hawaii & etc. (or perhaps to their fleets of mega yachts?).
"As it seems the US won't get its mits on either Ukraine or Russia's resources to reflate its balance sheet" Very true. They won't get Russia's resources because they have zero chance of conquering Russia.
As to Ukraine, it's not just that Russia is winning in Ukraine, it's also that all this talk about "Ukrainian resources" like rare earths, lithium, or titanium is a lie.
Ukraine has significant agricultural resources, for sure. Those are much smaller than Russia's but compared to the very much smaller EU ag resources, Ukraine is a superpower in wheat and sunflower oil production. Ukraine also has lots of coal (even though most of the Don basin coal seams are in "old" Russia), and even some iron. But that's basically it.
The USSR had massive investments in exploration geology, especially in easily inventoried provinces like Ukraine. Look at the Soviet exploration maps and Ukraine just isn't a superpower in mined resources other than coal and some iron. Talk about titanium, lithium, and rare earths is simply US propaganda for morons to justify pouring hundreds of billions into the war.
Talk about lithium about being something newly valuable is also a lie. The moment the USSR invented thermonuclear weapons (two years before the US), lithium had become intensely valuable as a thermonuclear explosive, so the Soviets had a full court press to find any trace of it. Yes, there's a small amount of it in Ukraine but it's not really strategic in quantity.
Great point Ian, where is the big success they base their credibility on, a tv show or a movie?
So Trump could go Zelenskyy on us? Run on the promise to end the war quickly and then deliver ww3. Only this time it will be nukes.
When there is no chance of following constitutional or ethical guidelines the chances of peace go poof.
It would seem the guiding vision statement of the US foreign policies can be simply titled, Wishful non-thinking.
Well of course we believe the Ukrainian propaganda. What could you expect from a country our own intelligence agents titled the, "Most Corrupt in Europe"?
Our latest analysis rebuts all traditional knowledge. We will win a nuclear war. Gosh just like the Covid crisis, throw out all known knowledge and embrace disaster. PR tag line? Safe and Effective.
DJT has tapped Matt Whitaker, his former Acting Attorney General, to be the U.S.’s ambassador to OTAN.
Surfacing recently are positions Whitaker took in a 2015 debate against Senator Joni Ernst when he characterized Crimea’s *return* to Russia as “not a threat to 'vital' U.S. interests. And I would look at, really, when our vital interests are being threatened,” he elaborated. “I don't see that happening with Crimea, for example, but there are ways we could strengthen NATO and the European Union. Increased military spending is not one of them. I didn’t support Obama committing U.S. troops to Syria. I did not support Bush invading Iraq.”
Whitaker’s dovish positions, if confirmed, will stand in stark contrast to OTAN allies who claim the war in Ukraine threatens the entire transatlantic alliance.
Scuttlebutt still indicates that DJT will name Ric Grenell as his Special Envoy to Ukraine, a seasoned diplomat w/ a skill-set no one on Joe's team ever exhibited. If so, Grenell and Whitaker would signal a formidable counterweight to DJT's Cabinet warhawks.
My working theory at the moment is that DJT is preparing to negotiate but cannot do so yet. To gain leverage ahead of time he can send a message via proposed appointments that there is a steel fist within the velvet glove. I prefer that theory to the one that he would pursue WW3 as a policy. Assuming we get to his inauguration absent armageddon.
But in building in New York, he, like all others, could not avoid the temporary home of the wandering tribe. Necessary interactions, friendly but not friends, despite the smiley faces. Even the son-in-law is not as close to Trump as some claim. Jared and Ivanka abandoned Trump in 2020, when he appeared to be a Loser and they saw no advantage in publicly supporting Pappy.
"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" is also part of the Trump strategy. Trump's ego wants "wins" on his side. 4 more years of Trench Warfare on Russia's Border is not what Trump is going to prioritize.
A messianic Jew is a Jew that came to realize Jesus was their messiah and then converted to Christianity. Trump is a Kabbala practicing Jew. He's perfect for bringing in the tribulation.
TheDukeReport on Rumble did a video on the origins of D.O.G.E. The Doge originated with the Venetian oligarchs and it was the person who was responsible for making sure the oligarchs wishes got done. They has a floppy red hat. It's seen everywhere from the seals of most central and south American countries as well as the US house of Representatives and the military. It's the hat Papa Smirf wears. There's too much to mention but suffice to say I nearly shat myself with all the coincidences.
163 Rabbis bestowed the Silver Crown of the Torah upon their new messiah Zion Don, the traitor Trump. He works for Israel, the Yankland presidency is just a tool for Israel's use. The kikes say this openly.
Always the smear. Not engaging in unnecessary and wealth-destroying skirmishes of no strategic value is the brave, thinking position.
Getting into conflicts, like Ukraine, showplacing your belligerent rhetoric paralleled with your anachronistic bag of toys/weaponry can be painted "brave" but is superseded as foolishness.
you have an interesting definition of 'great times' here, friend..
and I agree, I think we are very close to all-out war out of 'oh, they are just bluffing' stupidity. same with P never enforces _any_ redlines which is utter nonsense
- 2007 , Russia says , stop meddling with our neighbors and pushing your alliance eastward. Ha! says 'the West' and 08.08.08 five-day war happens where 'NATO trained' Georgian army gets crushed by 'primitive' shovel-bearing russkies.. Import-substitution program is turned on at full force for domestic self sufficiency, first in military and then in all aspects.
- 2013 , Russia says any unrest in Kiev provoked by EU/NATO should be negotiated. Ha! says the West again , we do what we want including guaranteeing agreement and then throwing it out a day later (Yanukovich). Russia moves ahead and Crimea is 'reunited' with Russia.
- 2021 , Russia says do not push on us, let's talk about NATO and indivisible security in Europe. Ha! says the west and SMO/SVO starts in Feb after USA did everything possible to trigger it. 'ruble will be rubble' -> 4th biggest economy in the world bypassing 'allies-satellites-vassals' of Japan and Germany
- 2024, Russia says if you fire at all (your troops, your equipment, your targeting, your munitions ,et) , we fire back and it would hurt, like a lot. Ha! says the demented west and we are watching that now..
I just checked out National Interest.https://nationalinterest.org/ - the choice of news for DC warhawks. It is full of articles about how Russia's military is in terrible condition and collapsing, the home front is rebelling, losses are mounting, that in an effort to not conscript women Yemenis have to be used, and that a few more pushes will bring the edifice down. If this is really a reflection of views in the Beltway then best stock up on tinned food and iodine tablets. These people are dangerously delusional.
If they believe it is deeply worrying. And sadly they are. There are NO people up there with clear brains that can achieve afterthoughts before primal instincts. The only thinking western (former) leader is french: de Villepin.
Very interesting studies have been done on a now-banned but simple substance called DMSO - the FDA don't want you to have access to it.
It is highly protective against gamma radiation damage - so well worth while to buy some.
I now have 2 kgs of it - the daily dose is between 3 - 20 gm, and no evidence has ever been produced that it is toxic at any dose.
Astonishingly, children with Down's syndrome who take it for a few months lose the typical morphology of that condition, and their mental abilities skyrocket to be similar to those achieved by so called normal children.
Also disassembles the protein tangles associated with Alzheimers, and significantly impacts the symptoms of Parkinson's disease.
Just used some 10 minutes ago. I have had a lot of damage to the meat sack and DMSO is what keeps me going. Very cheap. I get mine in liquid form and use a perfume bottle as an applicator.
I bought a gallon of the good stuff several years ago. I didn't notice any effect. People said I smelled like rotting meat. You can take capsules of orange peel extract to counter the effect but by the time that arrived I'd had enough. The stuff can be super dangerous because if you get any toxin or impurity in it and smear it on your skin the DMSO will transport it right across your skin.
The conspiracy theory community had a story about how that was used by the national security state to murder SCOTUS justice Antonin Scalia. It's a way of getting something into someone without injecting them.
I think of that is taking advantage of the opportunity/opening presented. Every large organization (and at country level these are HUGE organizations) have contingency plans for _everything_, questions is whether you are able to activate and execute such plans .
for a while (last 15 years) the saying was Russia plays brilliant game with bad/weak cards dealt (2% of the world GDP and other noise). Now Russia actually has stronger hand that keeps increasing in strength, why are we (West) thinking they would suddenly get weaker and stupid at this??
every time we moved the piece (badly and incompetently), they used it and used it well.. we will see what the future will bring here..
I agree that relative to the West the Russians had a weaker position. Even today the West, has more power as a combined force, than Russia alone. But if one side makes one blunder after another, it certainly adds up. Russia today is better off than Russia of 2020 or 2010. I won't even venture into the 00s or 90s.
My contention is that the leadership of the West still does not take Russia seriously, and their escalations will continue until something really dangerous and stupid occurs. Perhaps it is time for Russia to escalate instead of waiting for the West and then reacting. The Americans have many weak spots - globally.
There's a combination of "believing one's own lies" about Russia, and a sense that from generational standpoint the monied elite of the West are really running out of time to fulfill their centuries-old vendetta against Russia.
*Why* they have a vendetta, in truth, would be very interesting to understand. But it seems clear such a thing exists and the elite of the West hold it in a death-grip.
Quite likely it was paraphrased and/or simplified, the 3 level curse strikes me as a synthesis of semi humorous memes from several cultures-
Questionable to totally off attribution for quotes and/or original context & background having been RATHER other than what modern people might assume are common when I'm trying to nail down origin/attribution for such popular quotes "everyone knows about". Rabbit holes I've tried to follow several times-
Well, between Trump's warhawk picks and Biden doing his best to escalate the fuck out of the theater before he leaves, it's safe to say that Total Hohol Death is assured.
As for the mercenaries and profiteers eying Ukraine's land and wealth, can only hope all the war-jackals who come to Ukraine in search of money will never leave it.
Also, the Oreshnik strikes were close to the Dnieper river IIRC, a lot of shills were initially mocking Russia for blowing up nothing but water. Well, if the strikes opened a channel from the rivers into the underground workshops, the ensuing underground flooding would fuck them up really hard without having to completely demolish the facilities. A bit hard to produce heavy missiles when your entire production floor is submerged in water, mud and NAFO corpses.
“drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses of the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President George H.W. Bush.”
It is credible, three different senators have prepared papers and having them checked for legality right now. Their words as individuals. There have been several interviews done, so it is real.
Sorry I can't name them, I'm not a Yank and only follow their politics because unfortunately they are generally fucking up the world.
The conflict in Ukraine did not start in February 2022 of course. It did not start with the CIA-backed coup in Kiev against an elected president in February 2014 either. It did not even start with the U.S.-financed Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004. This conflict goes back at least to the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany in 1945 when the United States and its imperialist allies immediately responded by creating the Cold War with a newly forged imperialist instrument known then as NATO but which I now call OTAN. The Alliance deployed Ukrainian fascist collaborators to covertly attack Moscow.
After World War Two, the CIA and Nazi remnants, like spymaster Major General Reinhard Gehlen, were united in purpose along with the British MI6 to defeat the Soviet Union. What is transpiring today in Ukraine is the culmination of a systemic conflict, essentially about projecting and maintaining Western imperial power.
Russia is not bluffing. It won’t back down because of the historical sacrifices it has made already to defeat fascist tyranny – 27 to 30 million dead in WW II alone. The Russian’s pain and suffering from imperialist aggression make it defiant and resolute in a way that the Western regimes could never comprehend or emulate.
If Project Ukraine winds down, it’s not as if peace will guide the planets or love steer the stars—there’s a hint of what’s to come: the CIA has been in Taiwan since 1947, almost as long as its presence in Ukraine.
Ukraine started with Moses going after the lost tribe, they’re still searching for them but they will never find them. Some sources say there were/are 50 cabal, Zionist around Biden directly and 3000 indirectly. Now Trump got 30 million, American and Israeli Zionist together. Do not hope for any peace, eternal peace is fcked. With 30 million sworn warmongers even Mars is not safe. This earth testicle is Zion if not other planets are at stake, MPO a WW started with Moshe Moses and that lost tribe is making a lot of money, so they beter get lost forever.
The lost tribes exist exactly as God first described them, as spreading throughout the world, and being numbered as the stars of heaven, and the sand of the sea.
They are those whom would later - after their expulsion from Israel by Sennacherib and Nebuchadnezzar, and their migration northwards - be described as the Germanic and Anglo Saxon tribes, who then of course spread right round the world, differentiating themselves from any of the other races of mankind.
They should never ever be confused or conflated with the so called "chosen people," who as we know, hate them with an undying hatred, and have flooded their lands with dark skinned sub races, and whose intention, as the "chosen one" Trump openly admits, is ultimately to destroy them entirely.
Yiddish is a mongrel language somewhere between German ( ??? ) and Hebrew.
Whether you look at the linguistics or not - obviously, the Anglo Saxon you mention could not be understood by a modern English speaker - the simple fact remains that all the signs are that these people originated from the middle east.
No it's only written in Hebrew but has nothing to do with Hebrew itself. It is the ancient language of the Khazars, a central asian nomadic people, who converted to Judaism in the 8-9 century AD. It was later enhanced with slavic and germanic expressions as the Khazars were defeated by Kievan Rus and dispersed into Eastern Europe.
Indeed the uprising in Ukraine continued after the end of ww2 in Ukraine itself and in Poland. In Poland it ended with plan Vistula few years after the war. Ukrainian part of the uprising went on for a decade. I was always wondering if UPA had support from the West.
You're a pretty smart guy, Cheeto, so I'm somewhat bewildered by how little you understand.
There never was a "nazi Germany" for a start - they were National Socialists, and brought nothing but prosperity and happiness to a Germany destroyed by jewish intrigue, assisted by their running dogs, the British and French.
As to the CIA etc wanting to destroy the SU post WW2 - no.
The intention was to use a fake phony and false sense of antagonism ( to a nation they spent the previous six years supporting to the hilt ) to maximise profits accruing from massive militarization on both sides.
As to the SU "defeating fascist tyranny," - not exactly.
The ONLY reason that Hitler invaded the SU was to pre empt what was a massive military invasion force which Stalin had assembled on his borders.
One million paratroopers trained and ready to go, against Germany's 4000, is hardly the sign of an empire focussed on defence.
Surely you must understand that Hitler, deeply engaged in a conflict in the west, would not then take on the massive force represented by the SU, unless it was an existential threat to him.
So far more sensible to describe the situation as Germany and Hitler attempting to de fang communist tyranny - which he did, the result being that communism then was able only to overrun the entirety of eastern Europe, rather than the whole thing, as the comintern philosophy had impelled Stalin to attempt.
Sometimes I think that the whole Western degeneracy of the past few decades was designed specifically to cause an opposing momentum and create... basically, you.
You know about the role of Gehlen! Great! He had a very real impact on the feeling towards the Soviets. As a General, responsible for the "Fremde Heere Ost", the secret service for getting information about the Soviets, he was a complete looser. He and his team did not even get a feeling that Bagration was just around the corner. But he could offer a spy network in the East to the USA, and each of this spies was linked to the Nazi party.
Here is a 9min video that supports what your saying about the vile CIA by Doug Valetine, you might find it interesting : The CIA: 70 years in Ukraine
"The Ukrainian leadership aren’t Nazis? Why would the US & Nato work with Nazis?" The CIA: 70 years in #Ukraine by Doug Valentine is a hard-hitting account that answers these questions. Recommended viewing for all who seek to understand the Ukrainian conflict.
John Loftus' America's Nazi Secret claims eastern Europeans were generally more sadistic and enthusiastic Nazis then the S.S. And America is Nazi. They have Fasci on their government crests. This stuff is occult and comes from thousands of years ago. It can't really be understood from a purely materialist perspective.
And it's not like the Russians are good guys. Read Finnegan's The Sleeper Agent. The Russians got the best Nazi scientists after the war while using plants to recruit the most incompetent Nazi scientists to the west.
This one Nazi bioweaponeer, Erich Traub, developed viruses that couldn't be deteted in the host because the antibodies would look normal. He created cocktails of multiple viruses that would work synergisticly to slowly destroy the vitality of the host. He created Lime disease and most likely, AIDS, among others. The Russians sent in agents to inject the horses the West used to grow viruses and the shoddy practices of the lab (injecting multiple horses with the same neddle) spread them to all horses.
The Russians found out where the West was capturing wild monkeys and apes for vaccine production and would bait the area to infect all the animals.
It's friggin' horrific. Most likely most of the chronic health issues (autism, autoimmunity, alzheimers, etc.) affecting the West are a bioweapons attack. And notice how nobody in the west can figure out why autism and autoimmunity has grown at such a rate. Even an expert who knew what he was looking for wouldn't be able to find these viruses in a subject. You'd have to have known who was injected with what. And worst of all, these viruses get transmitted across generations where the effect increases in subsequent generations.
The moral of the story is that people are evil. Lol
All agreed but the conflict with China and BRICS is close to finishing. The conflict to keep the Dollar afloat has 15-20 years left (I know that is an outside view). Conflict in Taiwan is just not happening - Taiwanese are Chinese - by which I don't mean loyal to mainland, just smart enough to get out long before an actual war.
Best way to see the world IMO is not a battle for supremacy in which US is currently losing. But one which the US lost 5-8 years ago (and was doomed to lose 10-15 years ago - blame Obama). And they do know it. This is not fighting current battles, this is the bad tempered behaviour of a loser.
The U.S. is stuck on the Financial/Economic horns of dilemma.
The Financialized Economy of the past 30 years, where guys like Romney pocketed millions/billions scrapping out U.S. factories, taking those funds to bid up stock prices and bananas duct-taped to walls, buy poor-quality Mexican/China stuff with counterfeited U.S. dollars, while subsidizing borrowing through low-interest dictat, now depends on getting long term rates lower.
Yet the higher relative U.S. rate is what keeps funds flowing into the U.S. and out of Europe, etc.
Well, the Cold War started soon after WWII, but the Ukie shít really got going with Brzezinsky and his game plan that the neocons tried to follow to the letter.
Russia will not attack NATO territory before J20 and NATO has a blank check to hammer Russia for about... 55 days without consequences... This is ridiculous. Russia has already been forced to attack NATO targets outside Ukraine, the only question is what will be first... Poland? Rumania? England? Brussels? This is obviously wanted by the real handlers of NATO, the British, in order to trigger article 5 and force Trump to fold to their agenda. So expect hazels over Europe in the coming days.
USA is done. Hope Putin & Xi knows what to do next with Iran and Israel. As for Russian weapon, people do hope Putin finally goes after Zelensky and the rest of cabinets. Fk them all, hell is waiting.
BRICS+ is going gangbusters! BRICS Pay had a flawless trial run just on a month ago, and by all reports is superior to the SWIFT system. I am hoping BRICS cancels the Petrodollar as a Winter Solstice present to the world.
During Trump's first Presidency his foreign policy was fairly effective - more so than I thought it would be - in a large degree because he surrounded himself with insane neocon warmongers who would issue bloodcurdling threats before Trump entered the room as the cool, rational dealmaker who wanted peace. Kind of a modern take on TR's "speak softly and carry a big stick."
It seems like Trump is going to try and re-cycle this strategy. The problem is the objective factors no longer favour such a strategy; the US has been defeated militarily in Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and the Red Sea. Leftist ideology is visibly rotting the heart out of the US military establishment and its attendant MIC has been shown to be incapable of producing sufficient and effective munitions. The economic power of the US is clearly waning as an unprecedented hurricane of sanctions have failed to swamp the Russian ship of state. Numerous countries are decoupling from the dollar.
This time around the neocon threats will ring hollow and when Trump enters the room it will be as a huckster used car salesman with very little of a deal to offer.
Perhaps I will be proved wrong (as I was for 45) but the outlook is not rosy.
Consider fusty dusty OTAN, helmed now by Mark Rutte, who has not gotten the memo about neocon threats ringing hollow. OTAN, as front & center as an alliance can be, can't read the room: 1000 days after the SMO commenced, the world is vastly different.
Strategies which the U.S.-led OTAN thought relevant & timely on 23 February 2022 were already obsolete in ways no one within the alliance could apprehend or interrogate.
And they still can't.
A high-caliber mental illness makes people like Baerbock tell ordinary German citizens that they must expect in the future to pay a Ukraine Tax in order to keep this super-losing endeavor going
During 45 Trump was clearly just using these neocons for specific goals; hence, the very high turnover rate within that administration. Or at least that was one reason.
For 47 the whole government seems to have been "Trump Proofed" to the extent the deep state literally allowed him to win (helped him to win as well?) and it seems that now the neocons are fixing to use Trump like they themselves were previously used.
Hungary potentially offers post-Cold War 21st Century leadership possibilities, as does Slovakia, should OTAN attempt to find its relevance. Türkiye, never Russophobic, creates intriguing synergy.
The tough thing is that OTAN--that is to say Old Europe OTAN--can't pivot. Pivoting is anathema. The alliance even marginalizes & attempts to isolate Victor Orban.
Orban = "the stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone"
It is interesting to see the actual rapport that these new-era leaders (Orban, Vucic, Fico, Abe (RIP), Duterte (another casualty of the empire), Bolsanaro (another casualty), and Putin all seem to have. It stands in stark contrast to the dead-eyed 'consensus' whenever the puppets of the empire gather to mouth the official platitudes like a landed, dying fish.
Catch up on the latest from Duterte,,, his daughter this time. Vice President Sarah Duterte just publically threatened to assassinate President Marcos yesterday after he, and no doubt the CIA, threatened to kill her for her objection to American soldiers setting up shop in the Philippines again.
These dead-eyed puppets have one thing in common: they all are the spawn of Klaus Schwab's Young Global Leaders program. Schwab (Kissinger's protege and a frontman for the deep Cabal) ran a program for /decades/ selecting and prepping politicians to become Cabal-promoted candidates and eventually "statesmen" all over the world, especially but not exclusively the West.
Now, most of these YGLs were scions of well-placed freemasons and multimillionaires, or else ambitious up-and-comers in political cliques; but the program culled them based on, as far as I can tell, three criteria.
Firstly, they must have no moral backbone: be amoral opportunists or even psychopaths, with no qualms to commit whatever heinous act they will be instructed to do.
Secondly, they must be deeply mired in kompromat, ranging from embezzlement to pedophilia and many others in between; so that, should they hesitate to follow instructions, they can be squeezed by the figurative balls and brought into line. Coincidentally, this also means that they must be stupid, stupid enough to let themselves be entrapped like that.
Thirdly, they must be completely incompetent at what they administer, for two reasons: so that they do not understand the actual grand scheme to which their work contributes, but are satisfied with slogans; and also so that they are living in constant (justified) imposter syndrome, and thus rather than make their own decisions eagerly turn to their handlers for detailed instructions on what to do.
This last part was very visible during the Covid debacle; whenever things went south and policies had to be improvised, it took weeks to trickle new instructions down to the people "in charge". In the meantime they acted like the proverbial headless chicken.
These people are still in power now, all over the West; India and South America also have their share of these YGLs, but China's and Russia's counterintelligence have largely succeeded in filtering them out. And these ironically named "leaders" still do not know what to do, and follow yesterday's unworkable instructions until they are laboriously redirected. But their Talmudist handlers are few and mostly quite old, and are just unable to cope with discreetly micromanaging all these morons, especially when things change quickly.
This might be an important factor in the Cabal's resigned acquiescence to the Trump presidency; they've started to realize how useless their laboriously installed stooges really are, and decided to bite the bullet and let a true leader take the helm to handle the worst of the crisis; a leader they know very well back from the days of his NYC dealings, and think is mostly controllable on the key issues. Whether or not their trust will backfire on them remains to be seen.
turkiye and russia fought for centuries, they will never be friends; there is just too much bad history and the religious difference is insurmountable.
best they can do is an conjuncture alliance for a short time.
No resident of D.C. "let" Trump win. FFS- it still took 2 weeks for some counts in California. And Arizona uses Mexican Drug money to float their system.
The rigged polls had him losing, with 2 exceptions.
So...when you control the Narrative, yet get your teeth punched out, you become desperate. Fight or Flight. That is the D.C. decision at this moment.
And the worst part, if you believe German opinion polls, two thirds of Germans are in favor and with the next Schwarz/Gruen Coalition they will have the conservative, green, globalist warmonger, Friedrich Merz, as Bundeskanzler. Gute Nacht Deutschland!
Das endgultige lösung for Germany. Most people thought Germany was prospering and were selfgoverning. And indeed, from Stunde Null, the germans built up their country and through enormous Arbeit they won their freedom. Sort of. Not until 1991 Germany got their freedom and when Schröder did the Northsteeam deal, US went bananas. UK and US has always sabotaged the locomotive of Europe. They dont want a strong Germany and US does everything to sever Geramny/Russia ties. Remember peaceloving Obongo tapping Merkels phone?
CIA created all the newspaper in Geramny after 1945 and hace since got the hold of them. Die Welle is a CIA-asset. So are the lugenpress.
Germans are the most indoctrinated people in the world, especially the young ones. I think Scholtz has been weak. And no wonder with those crazy bats like FDP and die Grunen. Best thing he has done is to stonewall usages of Taurus against Russia.
I found this a very interesting & pertinent article going back to when the SMO had only just started, it definitely worth reading.
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.
In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in.
You are right to highlight the destruction of Germany by the U.S. and the dirty Brits. But Ukraine is not secondary. Killing Germany weakens Russia, but a completely hostile Ukraine a few hundred miles from Moscow ain't a bad trophy for D.C. either.
This is indeed so. Pretty odd considering that majority does not support war against Russia. But that is what happen in Germany.
Considering wider view the West went so far with sanctions and war that it will be tough to return from that. The plan seems to be to destroy and possibly partition Russia. If so the outcome will be a disaster independent of the success.
I am more optimistic than that and expect to see the BDW and the AFW to make big gains from the left and right. Already in some German states the opposition to the proxy war by the BSW has prevented governments being formed.
Just as Rutte in the Netherlands has managed to convince both the socialists and the Christian Democrats of the neoliberal myth, he has also been very active on the European stage in recent years. After Merkel's departure, it was relatively easy for him to sway the inexperienced Greens and Socialists in Germany. He also successfully convinced Finland and Sweden to join NATO. Alongside Boris Johnson, he was an early and vocal supporter of Ukraine.
Since taking office on October 1, Rutte has already traveled extensively and been involved in numerous diplomatic engagements. He met with officials from Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea, alongside Blinken and NATO in Brussels. He has also played a key role in the ongoing situation with North Korea. Known for his extensive knowledge of files, his photographic memory, and his smooth political tactics, Rutte has earned the nickname "Mr. Tefal" for his ability to remain unscathed by controversy. Some label him a sociopath, others a psychopath. Either way, it’s wise to keep an eye on him.
Following the NATO copy book perfected by Jessie stumblebum is smooth?
It's a question of learning a number of banalities and re cycling them - even Obama could manage this much
Plus collecting money from the EU vassal states for the F-35 scam
MR is just a bag man
Now the F-35 sales are winding down and NATO turns out to be too expensive to maintain with no such steady income, his usefulness is limited, the yankas would say his days are numbered
What's your point? I like to see him disappear quickly. You talk a lot, but you often don't seem to know what you're saying. It's like you're trying to act tough, just copying and pasting things and pretending you came up with them yourself.
Not long ago, you told some weird story about Rutte supposedly bothering farmers in the Netherlands. If only that were true! The Netherlands actually has five times the average nitrogen emissions of the rest of Europe. It's all buried under the mess of the industrial farming system, and it's one of the most polluted countries out there.
In your previous Substack, you were quite enthusiastic about a 6-year-old article about Klaus Schwab and Rutte. You couldn't stop talking about Rutte in several comments, and even brought up his bicycle (I won’t mention his saddle, though).
I know Rutte from Dutch politics and understand the damage he has caused—and can still cause. Underestimating a deeply disturbed person like him would be stupid.
As for Simplicius, no matter how much you might want to align yourself with him, that's a completely different category. You're not a reporter; you're the Tintin in Congo of this Substack.
Regarding the farmers: You positioned yourself as a protector of intensive agriculture and the manure surplus. But recently, on Karl’s Substack, you had an entirely opposite view on farming, one I actually agree with.
Mr. White, you don’t have to respond to everything and everyone. You do contribute valuable insights at times, but the quality gets diluted when you feel the need to chime in constantly. Can we tone it down a bit?
Our 🇺🇸economic industrial base is being rapidly rebuilt, partly because of COVID, partly due to Russia sanctions impacting on us, the supply chain disruptions and collapse of globalism are actually good for America.
The alliance and NATO ?
Europe has to decide to live, with or without us, either way better for us if without,
I am against this war, like most veterans. Lunacy.
As to the anemic wartime munitions production; true, but that is a function of Pentagon Bureaucracy and a 6 year procurement cycle from identifying a requirement to contract; before anything is built.
That’s PPBOE (the DOD budgeting nightmare bureaucracy) and few government departments cry out for Efficiency like DOD. I go into detail to emphasize forced inefficiency in DOD budgeting does not reflect on the actual real economy, which is getting quite healthier rapidly. Don’t be misled.
I very much doubt Trump will escalate the War, the war hawks are being gulled or disingenuous- please recall this is the most dangerous transition since 1860-and again recall his first term.
As noted above he lets the Hawks screech then plays the dealmaker. For that matter Obama stayed out of it as much as he could. It took a POTUS as weak as Biden to let the Neocons run wild setting up a “second Israel.” Trump is far stronger going in than any President since FDR, easily. Easily.
MAGA doesn’t want any more wars, the military caste (again, we’re 80% generational) doesn’t want any more wars, and Trump certainly isn’t going to do any favors for the Deep State, who are the drivers on the war. Hegseth is well known to vets by the way and won’t be in favor of adventures either. Hegseth is there to clean out the Pentagon. Trump doesn’t have to care about his appearances via Putin, seriously.
Nothing more than ending this lunatic folly is of concern to his base. His agenda is domestic.
Trump and his real wrecking crew including Musk, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, AG nominee Bondi is coming to wreck the Deep State.
The DS wasn’t incorrect to try and jail or kill him, their mistake was failing so badly. This man is now in effect a King. He’s a King that wants to clean house, not continue inane, useless and losing adventures abroad.
Again I’m a veteran and against the war, I’m not alone.
Don’t worry about Trump escalation 😂 and ignore transition rhetoric.
I had no idea! I learned about it so late during the first presidency and it was being presented in a way that made it seem so recent. I have to pay better attention.
Excellent comment and I agree fully. Trump can't do anything until 1/20, so the choices in various positions are for show purposes mostly. Concerning Hesgeth, a veteran with a conscience, the DS via their patsies in the senate, want to derail his confirmation because he's an existential threat to the MIC, channeling Trump's policies toward peace and cooperation, as opposed to the current, ongoing destabilization and conflict.
Just want to point out that our author, Simplicius, places too much emphasis on reportage from the likes of BBC, the Economist, Politco, NYTimes, and other propaganda organs. Notice how WaPo has been toning down the rhetoric for months, first, by not endorsing anybody, now, by slowing their roll re: Ukraine/Russia. Bezos is no fool. He knows he better toe the line with Donald or end up badly damaged, like in the direction Google is headed. 56 more days to wait this out. Blinken and Sullivan probably already have their passports handy. They may end up the major casualties from this fiasco. IMO, they should be tried for treason, along with a handful of other operatives in and around congress.
I have great faith that the U.S. can extricate itself from the mess created by four years of DS control. Trump is the tip of the spear. The American people have had enough.
«Blinken and Sullivan probably already have their passports handy. They may end up the major casualties from this fiasco. IMO, they should be tried for treason, along with a handful of other operatives in and around congress.» - to the God’ ear.
We have a leader and this time he had the sense to build a cadre and a bench and nearly all young, nearly all men. That’s the mistake he avoided this time.
Ho Chi Minh didn’t win the Vietnam war - he died of old age before it ended. His cadres of men won it years later.
Trump may be the SINGULAR BOOMER who built a competent bench of young replacements.
…the rest of them- McConnell, Pelosi, all the rest didn’t.
Trump has a young, competent bench.
Their replacements can’t, their replacements are useless creatures like AOC , or Alvin Bragg , or their withered children.
nice to see u found time to think about such important matters between bombing some poor fuckers; but you are wrong, trump is the product of his time/class and will die like that.
there is no 'bench' of competent(lol) young people, its just some new blood brought in the same imperialistic system.
u guys, as the brits which were your model, are nothing but a parasite; a cancer that eats humanity.
but at least the brits did some technological advances, you brought nothing to this world, not even the nuclear bomb; even that was built by imported scientists.
a man with a conscience would never wear that uniform.
If you tell me what innocent country you’re from, I’ll be happy to catalog your wonderful and enlightening rule. Innocent as lambs I’m sure, and with no parasitism in rule I’m sure.
Conscience your guide, I’m sure.
Our mistake was ever touching the rest of the world at all.
I know no Russian was shameless enough to write that, right Vader Retro? Lol.
Jesus Christ you worked 30-40 million of your own to death within living memory in the camps, and the Tsars weren’t exactly Saints either, never mind the Rus. Who first enslaved the Slavs? The Rus. The most monstrous of the Vikings.
I suppose we can skip the Tartars? No Ghenghis Khan DNA running around Russia today?
This is why Education and History, Literacy is a complete waste. Most live in the moment.
One more thing; 91,000 Americans died in Korea and Vietnam with very heavy help from the Russians , not counting a million Koreans and 500,000 Vietnamese. Your proxies.
We may at present be a tad parasitical, although strangely we’re paying for it (?) .
You have been a curse on Asia for 1000 years. You are the congealed sum of Viking Rus, Mongols, Tartars. None of your neighbors have had a moments peace in 1000 years.
Globalism isn’t collapsing at all, America is just being increasingly cut out of the action. All you have to do is compare GDP growth rates between the major powers to see that the US is in enormous trouble.
The US empire is in irreversible collapse, BRICS is ascendant and China will be the global superpower within a few years.
We don’t want or need an Empire, CONUS itself can quite be an autarky. We just voted to get rid of the Empire. Don’t threaten us with a good time! 😂
It’s not just we don’t want it, dismantling the Empire dismantles the reason for the Deep State especially Intelligence, which is the Muscle for the Bureaucracy aka Deep State. They certainly have alienated the US Military and Police, who were always of a Dim View of this anyway.
Most of our commerce internal, most of our foreign trade to Canada or Mexico- over land.
We’re also reshoring and rebuilding our industries at a very rapid clip. We’re running into land and labor shortages for manufacturing, these are good problems to have-
Bonus; in 56 days when Trump takes the Oath, the risk of nuclear war drops significantly. This may indeed affect the rest of you… not that we GAF.
You may return to killing each other in peace, I don’t know what we were thinking, but it’s over.
Without Chinese imports, the US export market gets slashed or did you think that all those components were domestically produced?
One look at Trump’s appointees refutes your premise utterly. His administration is chocked to the gills with neo-cons. It will be more of the same unfortunately though now the US is messing with countries that can hit back. The US is in enormous trouble, things will go from bad to worse in the coming years.
We’re reshoring at an enormous clip. We can quite make do with waiting a couple of years with the older but working devices, and we don’t need new toys or luxuries as badly as industry and jobs. Reshoring link below.
You may have missed it, but Trump is going to slap 25% Tariffs on Canada and Mexico day one, and is more than willing to Tariff China- about which- when China is in trouble it pulls up the drawbridge, mans the walls and turns inward.
As do we 🇺🇸 as we do now.
We need nothing from abroad that is essential and most of our commerce internal, we’re the world’s largest market. Most of our foreign trade Canada and Mexico, and you see we can quite cut them at the knees.
I think you’re looking at old information. Or a model and you discard anything that doesn’t fit?
In the model we are doomed?
Well we disagree.
As to business as usual and the dreaded neocons; Gabbard, Hegseth, Ratcliffe, Walz are not neocons. Rubio will do as he’s told. State Department is no prize at present. As far as the bureaucracy rules - the bureaucracy has easily been put into hysteria by Project 2025, Agenda 47 hardly reassuring, and that’s before Musk is announced as the Grim Reaper of the Administrative state.
You’re also overlooking the Deep State had Trump arrested, Prosecuted then SHOT. He isn’t going to wait for them to come again.
Business as usual? Here’s Trump on the Deep State.
““Every day this proxy battle in Ukraine continues, we risk global war,” President Trump said. “We must be absolutely clear that our objective is to IMMEDIATELY have a total cessation of hostilities. All shooting has to stop. This is the central issue. We need PEACE without delay.”
“There must also be a complete commitment to dismantling the entire globalist neo-con establishment that is perpetually dragging us into endless wars, pretending to fight for freedom and democracy abroad, while they turn us into a third-world country and a third-world dictatorship right here at home. The State Department, the defense bureaucracy, the intelligence services, and all the rest need to be completely overhauled and reconstituted to fire the Deep Staters and put America First.”
At what point of his last presidency did Ivanka marry Kushner? Start, middle, end? I sometimes wonder if or to what extent that event in his family might have redirected Trump's thinking and loyalties. Now he still does have a European Eastern block wife, but for instance Ivana who may have been a strong pro Eastern block factor for him has passed away, reducing his intra-familial bonds to that part of the world, and consequently the 'moral surveillance' on his attitudes and actions in that regard.
Apparently the kinetic element "rods from God" were composed of metals capable of first storing thermal energy from atmospheric friction after rekease & then releasing that energy to target along with their kinetic energy, with this material additionally undergoing energetic reactions (with atmosphere?) after being liquidized/vaporized? I have some material & chemistry research to do... Titanium? Hafnium? Their carbides, perhaps?
With a kinetic impact of sufficient energy , the hardness or temperature of the impactor is irrelevant; the key parameter is density. The same principle applies to armor-piercing impactors, which is why the US is using depleted uranium, and everyone else, tungsten.
Tungsten was also the proposed material for project Thor a.k.a. "rods from God". I presume the kinetic impactors @Yuzhnyemash were also tungsten. It has the added advantage of staying solid at white-hot temperatures, which may help maintain impactor integrity at the first critical moment before it turns into plasma and continues on.
Do you believe converting tungsten entirely or even mostly to an actual plasma state is possible with the kinetic energy from a 3,400 m/sec impact? Have you done the math.
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There are about 5.4 mol weights of W per kg.
One mol weight of W requires about 30.72 kj energy to melt it, let alone convert to gas, or further, into a plasma, so 167.4 kj/kg to melt a pure tungsten rod.
One kg mass at 3,400 m/second = 5,780 kj kinetic energy.
Latent heat of vaporization of Tungsten is 824 kJ/mol, so vaporizing 1kg of W requires an additional 4,449.6 kj/kg.
Therefore if I have not skipped any zeroes or misplaced a decimal point, it will require about
4,617 kj/kg to convert solid W to a gas. This is just about 80% of the theoretically available kinetic energy.
It requires an additional 7.98 x 10^5 joules/mol to ionize that tungsten gas, or 4,309.2 kj/kg.
With substantial energy certainly going elsewhere during the impact, I don't expect to have an W plasma as the primary state of matter penetrating the structure?
I have extracted the elongated "carrots" formed from inverted cone liners from lined charge targets hit at ideal stand off distances. They were solid when striking the steel, liquids or attenuated streams of particles/droplets are less efficient.
Science writers repeat the same bits of (not quite right) information as gospel and they may echo around the net forever...
Demonstrating a weapon which the West hasn’t a prayer to destroy or to deploy itself is not escalation: it is a harbinger of forthcoming doom. Make peace, you idiots! Not even Elon’s fancy pair of chopsticks can pluck Hazel out of the sky.
In a side by side comparison w/ the Oreshnik, America’s Hall Pass to Ukraine—a permission slip, if you will—to launch ATACMS is a feeble riposte. Ukraine apparently has a limited number of long-range missiles anyway. Once they’ve fired them @ Christmas Markets in Bryansk & Belgorod, Ukraine will still be losing on the original LOC & also in Kursk, where Russia has pushed Ukraine out of 60% of the territory it surprisingly seized back in August. The degeneration of the West’s strategy has reached an endgame Western cheerleaders of Project Ukraine find unexpected but which non-Western observers find inevitable .
Winning the war, steaming full speed ahead on the path of victory, Russia would commonsensically be disinclined to use nuclear weapons unless as a last resort. In 1000 days of the SMO VVP has not exhibited a tendency toward hot-headed aggressive reprisals. Moreover, Russia cannot be bought off w/ a gift of territory in Donbas or a a lifting of economic sanctions without a deal that resolves their fundamental security concerns in Ukraine. Joe’s admin has tried to force a poisoned chalice on Russia, the latter of whom is having none of it: the Kursk Incursion did nothing to deter Russia but only strengthened it, giving it more resolve.
Assuming that the Hazel is as deadly as Simplicus reports [subject the fog of war], then NATO leaders/generals etc will know that their deep underground bunkers will not save them if conventional war breaks out. They would be first on the target list IMHO. Notwithstanding a decapitation strike would make a war hard to fight and win, the prospect of meeting one's maker might concentrate minds. And I think this might be behind the reported "panic" within NATO senior ranks. The only response would be WMD which leads to MAD. So I would not be surprised if NATO classifies the non-nuke Hazel as a WMD as they have no counter. Either way, I think if the cold war went hot so to speak, we are looking at a worst case scenario very quickly. I don't buy the theory that NATO can attack Russia via its Ukraine proxy and that this will be OK.
what they did in ww2; absorb punishment until the time is right to totally destroy the enemy.
this is what westerners don`t understand. we of east europe had maybe 3 generation w/o some kind of (total) war on our territory; our whole culture is 'designed' around that, we long ago made peace with the fact that war is inevitable and our loved ones can die at any moment.
It's all relative to just how deep these bunkers are. The ones for the masters of the Cabal, in Zurich and Geneva in Switzerland, go right under the roots of the Alps. Some key command bunkers, in Russia, the US, and presumably in China, also go deep enough---more like mines than bunkers---that you cannot get to them by punching a hole in the ground. But there is a flip side: it is actually easier to seal such deep bunkers permanently, with all the rot inside, that it would be for normal ones.
Yankland is running out of munitions. It has no credible manufacturing base, has sent what it could spare to Israel and Ukraine, and now can't meet its obligations even for spare parts to its global customers.
Russia just keeps on ramping up production, so does North Korea, China, Iran, India, Turkey.
Russia, China and Turkey are at a minimum at least a decade ahead when it comes to advanced weapons, probably a lot more.
The withering snake(s)! I do not like the snake(s). Nope, not one bit. God, must guide Mother Russia. Each breath I take to my early grave is for the Sun to Rise in the East. 🐈⬛❤️🇷🇺💙
The ground penetration of the RV's explains why there is no big flash or explosion as you would normally see, I have to say the video of them piercing the clouds is truly terrifying.
"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen'
I have said from the start, the Brits and US will never agree to a peace on Russia's terms, why would they?. European pragmatism regarding the conflict decreases the further you get from Russia's borders. The yapping Baltic chihuahuas are of no consequence.
It seems Russia's best chance for a speedy end would be to turn Ukraine's military leadership against their political leadership. Recall that Ukrainian military stationed in Crimea were encouraged to defect, and allowed to keep their rank and pension status. Most did so.
Granted, it will be a harder sell than the Ukrainian soldiers in 2014 Crimea who were never shot at. After 3 years of war there is a high degree of psychological entrenchment, but mass defection is not mission impossible if morale is as bad as it seems.
It would effectively neutralize the intransigent Brits and Americans.
A military coup into a negotiated surrender remains the most likely ending to the conflict in my opinion.
Simply because NATO has no space to offer Russia what Russia actually wants. So the war will have to go on past any patriotic military man’s acceptable limits.
No doubt the whole military chain of command is tightly packed with NATO loyalists to prevent anything like that from happening. But avoiding it will certainly test CIA/MI6 ability to control their golem in the coming months.
Crimeans turned their coats because they weren’t Ukrainian military after all, Crimea was still Russia. A handful of Western Ukrainian detachments tried to fight back.
In response to Oreshnik’s debut, Joe’s Pentagon is allegedly providing Ukraine w/ hundreds of additional Patriot and AMRAAM interceptors to strengthen its air defense, though Tom Karako, director of the Missile Defense Project at CSIS, told Defense One mag that Russia’s new missile “would be a hard thing to defend against.”
Featuring a MIRV payload—multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle—the Oreshnik “presents a wicked hard problem,” according to Karako, “trying to hit multiple objects if it’s coming in super fast, especially if it’s an intermediate-range ballistic missile on a lofted trajectory.”
Karako cautioned against all the hype surrounding Oreshnik’s combat-test, though: “I don’t think we should fall for it. Ukraine should continue firing ATACMS and Storm Shadows into Russia. And we should supply other equipment that gives Ukraine a winning strategy, no-kidding, and puts them in a better position to negotiate from a position of strength.”
In other words, keep on keeping on.
The Institute for the Study of War chimed in additionally: “Neither the Oreshnik ballistic missile strike nor Putin's November 21 statement represent a significant inflection in Russian strike capabilities or likeliness to use a nuclear weapon. The West maintains credible deterrence options and Putin's nuclear saber-rattling should not constrain Western officials from aiding Ukraine.”
In other words, nothing to see here.
Although the ISW claims VVP is “nuclear saber-rattling” in adjusting Russia’s nuclear doctrine on 19 November, it is unnecessary for him to be the first to reach for the Red Button simply because his military has an ample array of conventional weapons with which to put the hurt on Ukraine and, if need be, the West long before a nuke would be existentially essential.
Minimizing the Oreshnik’s effect on the U.S.’s strategy in Ukraine, the ISW maintains a “steady as she blows” forward stance, which is important in their *public* statements. Ditto w/ Tom Karako and other experts in the West: best to minimize & diminish. “Putin is bluffing” is the trope that comes into play. Privately, though, one must believe that more got shattered on 21 November than merely the Yuzhmash plant in Dnepropetrovsk.
I called it repeatedly back in the day: Trump's idea of negotiations was to threaten Russia with $500 bln of arms supplies to Ukraine if Putin doesn't back down, from the very beginning. They will keep going at it until either massive public protests make them reconsider or Putin will finally be forced to strike something of theirs. Given the still-permeating euphoria of Trump’s voters, it's likely to be the latter.
Trump, I assume, has no notions about any further aid to Ukraine, especially nothing in the $500 billion range. As a negotiator, Trump is aware of the hand he's been dealt, and Putin's massive advantage. Thus, his negotiating terms will likely be focused on de-militarizing Ukraine and cooling down NATO. The big kickers are sanctions and the stolen Russian reserves, some $300 billion.
Morally, the U.S. and Europe has no right to Russia's money and Trump can leverage the return of Russia's funds into more favorable terms on the ground. At the end of the day, Russia will own Ukraine from the Dnieper Eastward and Western Ukraine will become a DMZ. There are plenty of details to be worked out along the way, but Trump and Putin are rational men with similar goals, which are to end the conflict and start rebuilding trust. I believe they will succeed.
You'll be surprised how it plays out in a few years. Trump is charged with cooling down the conflict because the United States are outgunned and need time to prepare, but now it's obvious that we'll get to see the end of it only in 2030s, with direct demolition of NATO. Hope to see y'all there.
Assuming a solid metal kinetic penetrator travelling at close to Mach 10 then the average factory roof is going to offer about as much resistance as tissue paper does to to a bullet, transferring almost no energy to the above-ground structure and perhaps doing no more than blow out the windows, all invisible from low-res satellite images. All the energy is going to be dumped into the ground during its penetration to a depth of several metres. I don't know whether the shock wave would be sufficient to shatter the foundations and all the utility connections or whether the resultant cloud of vaporised rock and metal in an enclosed underground space would be enough to destroy everything down there, but if I were you I'd wait for a tour of the basement levels before making a fool of yourself by calling it nothing more than a fireworks show.
We're only talking the kinetic energy equivalent of maybe a 2000 lb bomb per warhead. Multiply by 32 for the entire barrage. That's a pretty big bang but not so big that it's going to turn the basements of the entire complex into "dust" or show up on distant seismographs. I don't actually have the expertise or intuition to guess how effective the strike might be which is why I would want the underground video tour. I do wonder whether the shock might compromise the foundations badly enough to make the complex a tear-down (even if it looks basically undamaged from above) and whether the heat generated (enough to vaporize metal at the point of impact) would be enough to propagate destruction throughout the underground spaces. Aerial pictures and Ukrainian denials are not enough to tell the story.
2000 Lb/warhead is ridiculous. It would be 36 x 1000kg = 36 tons.
No carrier for that. Read myc comment on Victor below. There were no more than 3,6 tons of equialent of explosive. The warheads contained no explosives - only kinetic energy.
I am making SWAGs* re: What the kinetic impactors used against Yuzmash might have been and thinking about what TOTAL energy they could have delivered.
*(SWAG = Scientific Wild Assed Guess)
Assume there were 36 impactors at 100kg each, velocity of 3,400 m/sec for a start. We get a kinetic energy equal to about 138 kilograms of TNT per impactor.
But that is not NEARLY all the energy which might be involved?
Those impactors were undergoing atmospheric heating, indeed they required high tech materials science to survive the thermal energy they must have absorbed. How HOT were these things, what were the materials involved, heat capacity? How many more j in heat energy did they bring to the party???
We have RF statements that impactors were "metal weights". Shortly after arrival, they were likely converted from near melting point metal to liquid and even vapor, with some of that reacting exothermically (burning!) with whatever air or OTHER elements was available to react with in those underground factory spaces. Many types of metal can fuel fires which are VERY energetic, several of them will "burn" in nitrogen as well as oxygen, several are even capable of combining with CO2 and/or water vapor (soil is generally damp).
Looking at which metals/alloys could withstand heat of reentry at mach 10 while retaining sufficient strength at very high temperatures, I thought of recently developed refractory high or medium entropy alloys (RHEAs/RMEAs).
This class of alloys are composed largely of such elements as titanium, zirconium, even hafnium, plus a few other modifying rare earth & other metals.
Titanium, zirconium and hafnium are very reactive as fine droplets/vapor/dust sized particles, may even be pyrophoric, with small particles spontaneously combusting in air or igniting in air from moderate impact or electrostatic discharges.They are also capable of combining exothermically with nitrogen, water vapor and CO2 as well. The additional energy from 100kg of any of these metals burned in air is rather more than that of a similar weight of TNT.
My SWAGs suggest that the total energy released by those impactors may have been 2 to 6 times their kinetic energy alone. If the impactor materials vaporized and burned with a fuel air explosive type effect in the underground spaces, they could also have given a prolonged over pressure effect along with their extremely high heats of combustion.
Paradigm has changed!
TNT (or any other conventional chemical explosive) is not the payload choice if such velocities are available in delivery systems, even less so if payload is more constrained by volume than mass.
At high enough temperatures any metal might oxidize, but that process is too slow to matter much here---burning is a subsonic process, and we are dealing with supersonic shockwaves here as the main means of spreading destruction.
As I explained in another post here, tungsten is the most likely metal involved, unless the Russians were to stoop to American dirtiness and use depleted uranium. Just about the only thing that matters in a kinetic impactor is the density of the impactor, period. No fancy chemistry is fast enough. Any overpressure will be caused by spreading shockwaves.
It's not just the density, it is also the MASS. To be precise, penetration ability is related to SECTIONAL DENSITY while kinetic energy of impactor is related to mass and square of velocity.
And for the "behind armor effects" good old combustion chemistry can indeed be VERY relevant.
As far as combustion being "too slow", combustion fronts in gasses driven by a sufficient shock initiation can indeed be supersonic, (ie, gas mixtures CAN propagate and sustain true detonation waves), that is why a thermobaric device WORKS.
See US Bureau of mines gallery tests, as well as light gas gun driver technologies for additional well characterised examples.
Are you a physicist, chemist, weapons engineer? We may be having a pointless discussion here.
Without REALLY knowing ANYTHING concrete about impactor design, construction materials and any related delivery/guidance systems? Much less where & when objects were found? I can't assign (or deny) credibility.
I have seen pictures of various mangled, twisted & burnt up "stuff". Which could be debris from impactor, the "buss" which carried impactors, final stage of a delivery vehicle or even bits and pieces of some locally produced missile systems that were in the area struck (Yuzmash have been making aerospace stuff since 1950's USSR, think they might have a few "junk drawers" and old store rooms with 60+ years worth of assorted left over bits?).
Or debris left over from the several missile/drone attacks which Yuzmash suffered previously.
Plus, Ukraine has never let reality or logic intrude into their PR when it was unprofitable?
"whether the heat generated. . .would be enough to propagate destruction throughout the underground spaces"
It's not the heat, it's the humidity. Er, I mean the shockwave. It can pulp lungs and strip skin from flesh, not much different from how the thermobarics clean out enclosed spaces without necessarily exploding them.
If you can picture illustrations of the amount of spalling in the interior of a tank turret being struck by an AT round.. That is what the concrete bunkers under Yuzmash would look like.
I'll leave it to you to calculate the kinetic energy delivered/dissipated when a sizeable object travelling at that speed comes to an abrupt halt.
There is doubt as to if these sublets even carried H.E. They may have been empty or full of grain.
This is a description from a local as described in Simplicius'report :
"Yuzhmash is gone. It hit so hard that everyone just threw up their hands. It was like God sent us his arrows. People went to the enterprise to find out what happened - but it simply was not there. There are no workshops, only dust remains," eyewitnesses say.
For Yanks who know only Imperial measurement, the following will be of help;
11,900kph = 7394.317mph.
198,333.333metres per minute = 650,699.9 feet per minute.
3,305.555 metres per second = 10,845 feet per second or 2.053977 MILES per second.
Well if they are, it's bloody tasty.
The Pentagon has boasted that military contractors plan to ramp up production of interceptors for the Patriot multi-launch system. Currently, Raytheon/Dynetics produces 500 per year. The intent is to turn out 550 in 2025. A 10% increase is not really “ramping.”
And that 10% increase will probably be 5%.
Just like when the US tried to "ramp up" is artillery shell production but the ramp up keeps getting pushed back. Now, 2029 is when arty production will be ramped up.
At double or treble the price.
I believe the pre-war price of a 155MM shell was +-600$ and now it is already 4,500$ or a 8-fold increase.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a23738/uss-zumwalt-ammo-too-expensive/
$800,000 per round???
Great find! Thank you
Just the boat to beat the Ansar Allah at a cost of $$$$Billions per day
All the US has to dois to force the Aussies or the NZ's to buy the boats and ammo for Hundredds of $Billions and the deal is done
Give a warship to a kiwi and it will become a submarine.
@marcjf
Yes, this was a famous bit of bait & switch. A selling point of this ship class was the crazy long ranged "over the horizon" gun system with rocket assisted GPS guided ammunition which was supposed to allow precision strikes 60 miles inland without needing an aircraft (and more cheaply than available missiles), claimed capable of firing up to 10 rounds per minute. However, the new guided munition system was incapable of use against SHIPS. Because, why would any USN vessel ever have to fight another ship using their main guns again? That's so 1940s.
Then the cost started getting jacked up as availability dates were pushed back, while profitability for the defense industry and insiders had to be kept up, all as usual.
When the plug was finally pulled, a ton of money had been poured down the MIC drain with 0 stocks of the promised ammunition or functional deployable weapon systems in return. Nice business if you can get it.
Also from PM, see the LCS hull cracking debacle?
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a39970022/littoral-combat-ships-suffer-hull-cracks/
As an engineer, I can't wrap my head around the hull crack issue. I mean, a similar hull-cracking problem plagued the Liberty ships of WWII, where a new, largely untried on this scale, technology of welding the hulls (as opposed to riveting) was tried to speed up production.
But the Liberty ships were practically disposables to begin with, welding work was done hastily and shoddily by Rosie the riveter and other incompetents, and the engineering of the day relied on rules of thumb and the most rudimentary (to us) approximations.
Fast forward to the 21st century, where ship design incorporates numerical stress simulations of the actual frame in superpositions of all possible wave regimes, extreme yacht and powerboat hull design (not to even mention the military equivalent) is advanced to the space age, and the Japanese-invented quality control methodology is ubiquitous in industry.
A repeat of the Liberty problem, fast-forward 80 years, can only be the result of GROSS, scandalous incompetence in the design bureaus. Its equivalent would be inconceivable in a vanilla civilian industry such as the design of increasingly high-performance steam turbines or car powerplants. But here it is. It makes one wonder what else hides in these boondoggle projects, and will emerge at the worst possible moment to bite us in the ass. Such as the F35 lemon, to name just one example.
It's a very shallow ramp. Kind of like the wheelchair ramps mandated by the ADA.
LOL!
I want to see more terrorists attack on military compounds, preferably the one that involved Mossad like 911.
You made a typo: the words "terrorist" and "military" have been switched around in your sentence. /s
How many missiles does it fire at each incoming object? Two? So Russia will fire an extra 25 projectiles/drones and they will be back to where they are now.
Clown show (on the cheap).
In the first recorded destruction of a Patriot in Ukraine, the Patriot operators panic-fired their entire complement of missiles against a single incoming Russian missile. Guess what. So your estimate of two Patriots per threat is off by an order of magnitude. :->
Listen to the US and they act as if they were not involved in the start of the conflict and can now arrogantly decide the end. All the death and destruction is the sole responsibility of the US. They should decide nothing.
Every US Military bases & embassy must be erased from the earth.
As it seems the US won't get its mits on either Ukraine or Russia's resources to reflate its balance sheet I'd guess that when reality hits home they'll just close shop.
Yankland still has dibs on all the oil, gas and minerals it and Israel have stopped Palestinians from extracting. Israel has sold mining right to resources that it has no claim to, Jared Kushner is involved in a company pre-selling real estate in the Gaza Strip.
@dornoch altbinhax
Almost as if a particular group of capitalists consolidated control of and then strip mined the USA & other Western economies for their personal benefit?
And then planned to avoid being personally involved with the costs, avoiding any dangerous blowback, outright societal collapses or nuclear wars which might result from their plays, instead retiring to their compounds in New Zealand, Hawaii & etc. (or perhaps to their fleets of mega yachts?).
"As it seems the US won't get its mits on either Ukraine or Russia's resources to reflate its balance sheet" Very true. They won't get Russia's resources because they have zero chance of conquering Russia.
As to Ukraine, it's not just that Russia is winning in Ukraine, it's also that all this talk about "Ukrainian resources" like rare earths, lithium, or titanium is a lie.
Ukraine has significant agricultural resources, for sure. Those are much smaller than Russia's but compared to the very much smaller EU ag resources, Ukraine is a superpower in wheat and sunflower oil production. Ukraine also has lots of coal (even though most of the Don basin coal seams are in "old" Russia), and even some iron. But that's basically it.
The USSR had massive investments in exploration geology, especially in easily inventoried provinces like Ukraine. Look at the Soviet exploration maps and Ukraine just isn't a superpower in mined resources other than coal and some iron. Talk about titanium, lithium, and rare earths is simply US propaganda for morons to justify pouring hundreds of billions into the war.
Talk about lithium about being something newly valuable is also a lie. The moment the USSR invented thermonuclear weapons (two years before the US), lithium had become intensely valuable as a thermonuclear explosive, so the Soviets had a full court press to find any trace of it. Yes, there's a small amount of it in Ukraine but it's not really strategic in quantity.
Stop talking sense. We should note the manganese deposits around Nikopol also.
Russia has huge lithium reserves.
👌👍👏
Defeated warriors go to war & then seek to win
Great point Ian, where is the big success they base their credibility on, a tv show or a movie?
So Trump could go Zelenskyy on us? Run on the promise to end the war quickly and then deliver ww3. Only this time it will be nukes.
When there is no chance of following constitutional or ethical guidelines the chances of peace go poof.
It would seem the guiding vision statement of the US foreign policies can be simply titled, Wishful non-thinking.
Well of course we believe the Ukrainian propaganda. What could you expect from a country our own intelligence agents titled the, "Most Corrupt in Europe"?
Our latest analysis rebuts all traditional knowledge. We will win a nuclear war. Gosh just like the Covid crisis, throw out all known knowledge and embrace disaster. PR tag line? Safe and Effective.
Trump's tag? Such a deal I got for you!
"Should" has nothing to do with it.
DJT has tapped Matt Whitaker, his former Acting Attorney General, to be the U.S.’s ambassador to OTAN.
Surfacing recently are positions Whitaker took in a 2015 debate against Senator Joni Ernst when he characterized Crimea’s *return* to Russia as “not a threat to 'vital' U.S. interests. And I would look at, really, when our vital interests are being threatened,” he elaborated. “I don't see that happening with Crimea, for example, but there are ways we could strengthen NATO and the European Union. Increased military spending is not one of them. I didn’t support Obama committing U.S. troops to Syria. I did not support Bush invading Iraq.”
Whitaker’s dovish positions, if confirmed, will stand in stark contrast to OTAN allies who claim the war in Ukraine threatens the entire transatlantic alliance.
Scuttlebutt still indicates that DJT will name Ric Grenell as his Special Envoy to Ukraine, a seasoned diplomat w/ a skill-set no one on Joe's team ever exhibited. If so, Grenell and Whitaker would signal a formidable counterweight to DJT's Cabinet warhawks.
My working theory at the moment is that DJT is preparing to negotiate but cannot do so yet. To gain leverage ahead of time he can send a message via proposed appointments that there is a steel fist within the velvet glove. I prefer that theory to the one that he would pursue WW3 as a policy. Assuming we get to his inauguration absent armageddon.
DJT is too much of a pragmatist to seek WW3: where's the prosperity arc?
Mr Trump is a messianic jew, and so should not be expected to embrace pragmatism.
I have seen him looking heavenwards and stating "I am the Chosen One."
The guy is an undiagnosed lunatic.
https://watchmanscry.com/?p=6550# Lucifarian Zionist
https://watchmanscry.com/?p=6550# Lucifarian Zionist. Ignore the site certificate warnings
@ Tim Webb LOL
Trump is no "End-of-Earth" messianic jew.
But in building in New York, he, like all others, could not avoid the temporary home of the wandering tribe. Necessary interactions, friendly but not friends, despite the smiley faces. Even the son-in-law is not as close to Trump as some claim. Jared and Ivanka abandoned Trump in 2020, when he appeared to be a Loser and they saw no advantage in publicly supporting Pappy.
"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" is also part of the Trump strategy. Trump's ego wants "wins" on his side. 4 more years of Trench Warfare on Russia's Border is not what Trump is going to prioritize.
A messianic Jew is a Jew that came to realize Jesus was their messiah and then converted to Christianity. Trump is a Kabbala practicing Jew. He's perfect for bringing in the tribulation.
TheDukeReport on Rumble did a video on the origins of D.O.G.E. The Doge originated with the Venetian oligarchs and it was the person who was responsible for making sure the oligarchs wishes got done. They has a floppy red hat. It's seen everywhere from the seals of most central and south American countries as well as the US house of Representatives and the military. It's the hat Papa Smirf wears. There's too much to mention but suffice to say I nearly shat myself with all the coincidences.
@cheetosSpring
DJT also may understand that nuclear war would lower his properties values?
163 Rabbis bestowed the Silver Crown of the Torah upon their new messiah Zion Don, the traitor Trump. He works for Israel, the Yankland presidency is just a tool for Israel's use. The kikes say this openly.
What else can they do? Crap on their only way out?
We heard that one in 2016 as well. Trump is weak, stupid and easily manipulated.
I hope you are right. Otherwise we are in for a deathride.
Traitor Trump's new ambassador for Israel, Elise Stefanik. I said for Israel not to Israel, because that is what she is.
"Whitaker’s dovish positions,"
Always the smear. Not engaging in unnecessary and wealth-destroying skirmishes of no strategic value is the brave, thinking position.
Getting into conflicts, like Ukraine, showplacing your belligerent rhetoric paralleled with your anachronistic bag of toys/weaponry can be painted "brave" but is superseded as foolishness.
very clear indeed. weird times to live in
it is actually great times to be alived, we literally at the front seat of Armageddon. Enjoy.
you have an interesting definition of 'great times' here, friend..
and I agree, I think we are very close to all-out war out of 'oh, they are just bluffing' stupidity. same with P never enforces _any_ redlines which is utter nonsense
- 2007 , Russia says , stop meddling with our neighbors and pushing your alliance eastward. Ha! says 'the West' and 08.08.08 five-day war happens where 'NATO trained' Georgian army gets crushed by 'primitive' shovel-bearing russkies.. Import-substitution program is turned on at full force for domestic self sufficiency, first in military and then in all aspects.
- 2013 , Russia says any unrest in Kiev provoked by EU/NATO should be negotiated. Ha! says the West again , we do what we want including guaranteeing agreement and then throwing it out a day later (Yanukovich). Russia moves ahead and Crimea is 'reunited' with Russia.
- 2021 , Russia says do not push on us, let's talk about NATO and indivisible security in Europe. Ha! says the west and SMO/SVO starts in Feb after USA did everything possible to trigger it. 'ruble will be rubble' -> 4th biggest economy in the world bypassing 'allies-satellites-vassals' of Japan and Germany
- 2024, Russia says if you fire at all (your troops, your equipment, your targeting, your munitions ,et) , we fire back and it would hurt, like a lot. Ha! says the demented west and we are watching that now..
Zacktly...
I like history, it is just too bad the next generation probably won't get the chance to make papers about what happened.
I just checked out National Interest.https://nationalinterest.org/ - the choice of news for DC warhawks. It is full of articles about how Russia's military is in terrible condition and collapsing, the home front is rebelling, losses are mounting, that in an effort to not conscript women Yemenis have to be used, and that a few more pushes will bring the edifice down. If this is really a reflection of views in the Beltway then best stock up on tinned food and iodine tablets. These people are dangerously delusional.
If they believe it is deeply worrying. And sadly they are. There are NO people up there with clear brains that can achieve afterthoughts before primal instincts. The only thinking western (former) leader is french: de Villepin.
"The only thinking western (former) leader is french: de Villepin."
I will submit that Orban and Fico could be added to the list of "thinking westerners."
Orban looks like a European Peacemaker, then he slobbers all over Netanyapuke.
Minus the buttlicking Netanyahoo case.
Very interesting studies have been done on a now-banned but simple substance called DMSO - the FDA don't want you to have access to it.
It is highly protective against gamma radiation damage - so well worth while to buy some.
I now have 2 kgs of it - the daily dose is between 3 - 20 gm, and no evidence has ever been produced that it is toxic at any dose.
Astonishingly, children with Down's syndrome who take it for a few months lose the typical morphology of that condition, and their mental abilities skyrocket to be similar to those achieved by so called normal children.
Also disassembles the protein tangles associated with Alzheimers, and significantly impacts the symptoms of Parkinson's disease.
Just used some 10 minutes ago. I have had a lot of damage to the meat sack and DMSO is what keeps me going. Very cheap. I get mine in liquid form and use a perfume bottle as an applicator.
All positive and no negatives from use.
I bought a gallon of the good stuff several years ago. I didn't notice any effect. People said I smelled like rotting meat. You can take capsules of orange peel extract to counter the effect but by the time that arrived I'd had enough. The stuff can be super dangerous because if you get any toxin or impurity in it and smear it on your skin the DMSO will transport it right across your skin.
The conspiracy theory community had a story about how that was used by the national security state to murder SCOTUS justice Antonin Scalia. It's a way of getting something into someone without injecting them.
The current DEI Austin only needs to look back to Colin Powell to see what the Deep Stinky crew think of the House Joggers.
Bush/Rove/Cheney killed Powell dead at the U.N.
And do you notice how every step of the way it has been Russia forced to react? That's not an ideal strategy.
The way they reacted the other day is not the sort of reaction you want to provoke.
React? Russia's armaments are actions, not reactions.
Boxing? NATO/JUSA is being rope-a-doped in slow motion.
The Mythology about money/Money Centers is superseded by the Resources that money covets.
Thank you for pointing that out. If we repeat it a trillion times people might start to think there's something to it.
I think of that is taking advantage of the opportunity/opening presented. Every large organization (and at country level these are HUGE organizations) have contingency plans for _everything_, questions is whether you are able to activate and execute such plans .
for a while (last 15 years) the saying was Russia plays brilliant game with bad/weak cards dealt (2% of the world GDP and other noise). Now Russia actually has stronger hand that keeps increasing in strength, why are we (West) thinking they would suddenly get weaker and stupid at this??
every time we moved the piece (badly and incompetently), they used it and used it well.. we will see what the future will bring here..
I agree that relative to the West the Russians had a weaker position. Even today the West, has more power as a combined force, than Russia alone. But if one side makes one blunder after another, it certainly adds up. Russia today is better off than Russia of 2020 or 2010. I won't even venture into the 00s or 90s.
My contention is that the leadership of the West still does not take Russia seriously, and their escalations will continue until something really dangerous and stupid occurs. Perhaps it is time for Russia to escalate instead of waiting for the West and then reacting. The Americans have many weak spots - globally.
There's a combination of "believing one's own lies" about Russia, and a sense that from generational standpoint the monied elite of the West are really running out of time to fulfill their centuries-old vendetta against Russia.
*Why* they have a vendetta, in truth, would be very interesting to understand. But it seems clear such a thing exists and the elite of the West hold it in a death-grip.
Spot on. The self-deluding ”there are no red lines” is guaranteed to escalate into something self-combusting.
Only naive young people and rich people think interesting times are fun. "May you live in interesting times" is an ancient Chinese curse.
We shall soon see! In the meanwhile, enjoy yourself and help others.☦️
Likewise, friend. 26 days to the Winter Solstice, I hope you enjoy it.
I need more popcorn.....
As in folklore they say post apocalypse popcorn taste better since it comes with extra Gamma.
Sounds tempting….probably won't need my microwave oven anymore.
chuck it out already, it's a Raytheon-designed (no kidding) military weapon. The insane REAL history of a horrifying home appliance - https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/terrifying-truth-about-your-microwave
more drugs please....
The old school Chinese position on that was,
寧為太平犬，不做亂世人
"It is better to be a dog in a time of peace than a man in a time of chaos"
Hopefully the modern Chinese government agrees.
I wouldn't mind being a dog 'cos I could lick my balls when the missus refuses.
@grr
Two hookers were relaxing in their home after a very busy day of work. Their dog was laying on the floor and licking her parts...
After watching the dog for a while, one of the working girls said "gee, I wish I could do that".
Her partner responded "maybe when she's done, she might let you?".
There is a curse; “May you live in interesting times”.
I think it’s another english- fabricated “chinese-proverb” thing, but it is relevant.
@Hubba
It appears to have come from a British diplomat who was stationed in China, there is no known Chinese origin.
It was said to be the first of 3 curses:
#2 was: "May you come to the attention of those in authority"
#3 was: "May the gods give you everything you ask for."
Right I vaguely remember looking it up after reading “interesting times” back in my youth…
My guess is that the brit didn't just make it up. It was based on something he heard or read in China.
@Saint Jimmy
Quite likely it was paraphrased and/or simplified, the 3 level curse strikes me as a synthesis of semi humorous memes from several cultures-
Questionable to totally off attribution for quotes and/or original context & background having been RATHER other than what modern people might assume are common when I'm trying to nail down origin/attribution for such popular quotes "everyone knows about". Rabbit holes I've tried to follow several times-
https://quoteinvestigator.com/about/
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to trace some.... lost in the dust of time.
Well, between Trump's warhawk picks and Biden doing his best to escalate the fuck out of the theater before he leaves, it's safe to say that Total Hohol Death is assured.
As for the mercenaries and profiteers eying Ukraine's land and wealth, can only hope all the war-jackals who come to Ukraine in search of money will never leave it.
Also, the Oreshnik strikes were close to the Dnieper river IIRC, a lot of shills were initially mocking Russia for blowing up nothing but water. Well, if the strikes opened a channel from the rivers into the underground workshops, the ensuing underground flooding would fuck them up really hard without having to completely demolish the facilities. A bit hard to produce heavy missiles when your entire production floor is submerged in water, mud and NAFO corpses.
I read somewhere that Biden is going to be impeached. Anyone else picked that up? As it is not mentioned everywhere, I'm guessing it's not credible.
(Even though it is necessary to stop the madness a little bit)
I only read that Glenn Beck suggested it. Nothing more.
The crew that installed Biden, that recently neutered him, are going to keep his useful corpse in the window until the last day.
Let the Last Day be whatever you may think it is.
By the attorney [ Francis Boyle ] who
“drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses of the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President George H.W. Bush.”
https://francisaboyle.substack.com/p/breaking-news-articles-of-impeachment
Interesting! Thank you
Seems unlikely unless there is a actual war cabinet in the makings.
If they wanted to do that, the time was last year. Though it seems to me that those who rule were very comfortable with a vegetable in the high seat.
It is credible, three different senators have prepared papers and having them checked for legality right now. Their words as individuals. There have been several interviews done, so it is real.
Sorry I can't name them, I'm not a Yank and only follow their politics because unfortunately they are generally fucking up the world.
Impeachment originates in the House.
don't waste time on this, Congress will go on vacation rather than work hard to get Kamala Harris for a couple of weeks.
The conflict in Ukraine did not start in February 2022 of course. It did not start with the CIA-backed coup in Kiev against an elected president in February 2014 either. It did not even start with the U.S.-financed Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004. This conflict goes back at least to the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany in 1945 when the United States and its imperialist allies immediately responded by creating the Cold War with a newly forged imperialist instrument known then as NATO but which I now call OTAN. The Alliance deployed Ukrainian fascist collaborators to covertly attack Moscow.
After World War Two, the CIA and Nazi remnants, like spymaster Major General Reinhard Gehlen, were united in purpose along with the British MI6 to defeat the Soviet Union. What is transpiring today in Ukraine is the culmination of a systemic conflict, essentially about projecting and maintaining Western imperial power.
Russia is not bluffing. It won’t back down because of the historical sacrifices it has made already to defeat fascist tyranny – 27 to 30 million dead in WW II alone. The Russian’s pain and suffering from imperialist aggression make it defiant and resolute in a way that the Western regimes could never comprehend or emulate.
If Project Ukraine winds down, it’s not as if peace will guide the planets or love steer the stars—there’s a hint of what’s to come: the CIA has been in Taiwan since 1947, almost as long as its presence in Ukraine.
Stir it up, little darlin’
Ukraine started with Moses going after the lost tribe, they’re still searching for them but they will never find them. Some sources say there were/are 50 cabal, Zionist around Biden directly and 3000 indirectly. Now Trump got 30 million, American and Israeli Zionist together. Do not hope for any peace, eternal peace is fcked. With 30 million sworn warmongers even Mars is not safe. This earth testicle is Zion if not other planets are at stake, MPO a WW started with Moshe Moses and that lost tribe is making a lot of money, so they beter get lost forever.
The little known book of the Old Testament, edited out of the final version, details Moses's time poking around in Taiwan
Looking for chips to go with all those fish that jesus had on offer?
Plus a little walking-on-water action might come into play, crossing the Taiwan Strait
The visuals would have been an impressive feat of Shock & Awe in themselves
More legend & lore for Moses
During his time they might have said Formosa
Was his name Chiang Kai-shek back then?
mirth--!
He was such a busy guy! Did he ever sleep?
Ahh...The Satanic Verses.
Or the Self-Serving Parables.
Monkeys looking for Magic instead of taking Personal Responsibility.
The lost tribes exist exactly as God first described them, as spreading throughout the world, and being numbered as the stars of heaven, and the sand of the sea.
They are those whom would later - after their expulsion from Israel by Sennacherib and Nebuchadnezzar, and their migration northwards - be described as the Germanic and Anglo Saxon tribes, who then of course spread right round the world, differentiating themselves from any of the other races of mankind.
They should never ever be confused or conflated with the so called "chosen people," who as we know, hate them with an undying hatred, and have flooded their lands with dark skinned sub races, and whose intention, as the "chosen one" Trump openly admits, is ultimately to destroy them entirely.
“Their migration northward…” Hengest and Horsa spoke Yiddish? Who knew? No wonder Anglo-Saxon is so hard to learn!
Yiddish is a mongrel language somewhere between German ( ??? ) and Hebrew.
Whether you look at the linguistics or not - obviously, the Anglo Saxon you mention could not be understood by a modern English speaker - the simple fact remains that all the signs are that these people originated from the middle east.
Is Babylon the Middle East?
No it's only written in Hebrew but has nothing to do with Hebrew itself. It is the ancient language of the Khazars, a central asian nomadic people, who converted to Judaism in the 8-9 century AD. It was later enhanced with slavic and germanic expressions as the Khazars were defeated by Kievan Rus and dispersed into Eastern Europe.
The Khazarian Myth is a myth.
So..."in God's Image" is anger, envy, deceit and avarice.
Whence comes these delightful attributes?
That's Satan's image, and all those attributes are his. Murder and lies aren't mentioned, but should be. They were also his.
God however told us to love our neighbors as ourselves.
Indeed the uprising in Ukraine continued after the end of ww2 in Ukraine itself and in Poland. In Poland it ended with plan Vistula few years after the war. Ukrainian part of the uprising went on for a decade. I was always wondering if UPA had support from the West.
For sure. Bandera himself made his headquarters in Munich; this was in the American zone. There he was assassinated by the KGB in 1959.
@Hans Kloss
Yes, this was done from 1947 to about 1955. The CIA called it "Operation Red Sox" at the start.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/11/covert-operation-ukrainian-independence-haunts-cia-00029968
You're a pretty smart guy, Cheeto, so I'm somewhat bewildered by how little you understand.
There never was a "nazi Germany" for a start - they were National Socialists, and brought nothing but prosperity and happiness to a Germany destroyed by jewish intrigue, assisted by their running dogs, the British and French.
As to the CIA etc wanting to destroy the SU post WW2 - no.
The intention was to use a fake phony and false sense of antagonism ( to a nation they spent the previous six years supporting to the hilt ) to maximise profits accruing from massive militarization on both sides.
As to the SU "defeating fascist tyranny," - not exactly.
The ONLY reason that Hitler invaded the SU was to pre empt what was a massive military invasion force which Stalin had assembled on his borders.
One million paratroopers trained and ready to go, against Germany's 4000, is hardly the sign of an empire focussed on defence.
Surely you must understand that Hitler, deeply engaged in a conflict in the west, would not then take on the massive force represented by the SU, unless it was an existential threat to him.
So far more sensible to describe the situation as Germany and Hitler attempting to de fang communist tyranny - which he did, the result being that communism then was able only to overrun the entirety of eastern Europe, rather than the whole thing, as the comintern philosophy had impelled Stalin to attempt.
You left out that the Bolsheviks infiltrated and overran Yankland in the late 1800s.
They have had total control since 1913.
Wow impressive imagination.
"The ONLY reason that Hitler invaded the SU was to pre empt what was a massive military invasion force which Stalin had assembled on his borders."
Mr. History puts you in a corner and makes you wear a Dunce Cap.
Mrs History forces you out of your mother's basement, and makes you go and buy a copy of "Germany's War" by John Wear.
Once you finish reading that, you can read "The Chief Culprit," by Viktor Suvorov.
You're so lost between two evils. Revealing one doesn't automatically make other any better. And what you're doing now is playing their fiddle.
There was nothing evil about National Socialism.
Sometimes I think that the whole Western degeneracy of the past few decades was designed specifically to cause an opposing momentum and create... basically, you.
Now you've gone full retard
What a ridiculous comment. Muted.
stop reading suvorov man, its garbage and its gonna destroy your brain; also make people laugh at you.
I know all about the laughter of fools.
But if you don't like VS - read JW.
i don`t know who/what jw is and if is in the same note i don`t really want to know.
i read suvorov in my twenties, before the internet, and even then his theories where easy to debunk.
You obviously read my comment in which I mentioned Suvorov - "VS."
You will also have read the reference to John Wear "JW."
You don't seem to be all that bright, or able to hold a thought.
But please - amaze us all with your debunking of Suvorov.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You know about the role of Gehlen! Great! He had a very real impact on the feeling towards the Soviets. As a General, responsible for the "Fremde Heere Ost", the secret service for getting information about the Soviets, he was a complete looser. He and his team did not even get a feeling that Bagration was just around the corner. But he could offer a spy network in the East to the USA, and each of this spies was linked to the Nazi party.
Another great catch of Project Paperclip
Here is a 9min video that supports what your saying about the vile CIA by Doug Valetine, you might find it interesting : The CIA: 70 years in Ukraine
"The Ukrainian leadership aren’t Nazis? Why would the US & Nato work with Nazis?" The CIA: 70 years in #Ukraine by Doug Valentine is a hard-hitting account that answers these questions. Recommended viewing for all who seek to understand the Ukrainian conflict.
https://youtu.be/f-vN_B1vVYM?list=PLQKOHdhDzfKyHg6vsbG0HC1rSRHLSpACY
John Loftus' America's Nazi Secret claims eastern Europeans were generally more sadistic and enthusiastic Nazis then the S.S. And America is Nazi. They have Fasci on their government crests. This stuff is occult and comes from thousands of years ago. It can't really be understood from a purely materialist perspective.
And it's not like the Russians are good guys. Read Finnegan's The Sleeper Agent. The Russians got the best Nazi scientists after the war while using plants to recruit the most incompetent Nazi scientists to the west.
This one Nazi bioweaponeer, Erich Traub, developed viruses that couldn't be deteted in the host because the antibodies would look normal. He created cocktails of multiple viruses that would work synergisticly to slowly destroy the vitality of the host. He created Lime disease and most likely, AIDS, among others. The Russians sent in agents to inject the horses the West used to grow viruses and the shoddy practices of the lab (injecting multiple horses with the same neddle) spread them to all horses.
The Russians found out where the West was capturing wild monkeys and apes for vaccine production and would bait the area to infect all the animals.
It's friggin' horrific. Most likely most of the chronic health issues (autism, autoimmunity, alzheimers, etc.) affecting the West are a bioweapons attack. And notice how nobody in the west can figure out why autism and autoimmunity has grown at such a rate. Even an expert who knew what he was looking for wouldn't be able to find these viruses in a subject. You'd have to have known who was injected with what. And worst of all, these viruses get transmitted across generations where the effect increases in subsequent generations.
The moral of the story is that people are evil. Lol
All agreed but the conflict with China and BRICS is close to finishing. The conflict to keep the Dollar afloat has 15-20 years left (I know that is an outside view). Conflict in Taiwan is just not happening - Taiwanese are Chinese - by which I don't mean loyal to mainland, just smart enough to get out long before an actual war.
Best way to see the world IMO is not a battle for supremacy in which US is currently losing. But one which the US lost 5-8 years ago (and was doomed to lose 10-15 years ago - blame Obama). And they do know it. This is not fighting current battles, this is the bad tempered behaviour of a loser.
The U.S. is stuck on the Financial/Economic horns of dilemma.
The Financialized Economy of the past 30 years, where guys like Romney pocketed millions/billions scrapping out U.S. factories, taking those funds to bid up stock prices and bananas duct-taped to walls, buy poor-quality Mexican/China stuff with counterfeited U.S. dollars, while subsidizing borrowing through low-interest dictat, now depends on getting long term rates lower.
Yet the higher relative U.S. rate is what keeps funds flowing into the U.S. and out of Europe, etc.
@m droy
It is a rear guard action to allow our rulers the maximum time for completing their strip mining of the US economy.
Well, the Cold War started soon after WWII, but the Ukie shít really got going with Brzezinsky and his game plan that the neocons tried to follow to the letter.
Russia will not attack NATO territory before J20 and NATO has a blank check to hammer Russia for about... 55 days without consequences... This is ridiculous. Russia has already been forced to attack NATO targets outside Ukraine, the only question is what will be first... Poland? Rumania? England? Brussels? This is obviously wanted by the real handlers of NATO, the British, in order to trigger article 5 and force Trump to fold to their agenda. So expect hazels over Europe in the coming days.
USA is done. Hope Putin & Xi knows what to do next with Iran and Israel. As for Russian weapon, people do hope Putin finally goes after Zelensky and the rest of cabinets. Fk them all, hell is waiting.
BRICS+ is going gangbusters! BRICS Pay had a flawless trial run just on a month ago, and by all reports is superior to the SWIFT system. I am hoping BRICS cancels the Petrodollar as a Winter Solstice present to the world.
During Trump's first Presidency his foreign policy was fairly effective - more so than I thought it would be - in a large degree because he surrounded himself with insane neocon warmongers who would issue bloodcurdling threats before Trump entered the room as the cool, rational dealmaker who wanted peace. Kind of a modern take on TR's "speak softly and carry a big stick."
It seems like Trump is going to try and re-cycle this strategy. The problem is the objective factors no longer favour such a strategy; the US has been defeated militarily in Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and the Red Sea. Leftist ideology is visibly rotting the heart out of the US military establishment and its attendant MIC has been shown to be incapable of producing sufficient and effective munitions. The economic power of the US is clearly waning as an unprecedented hurricane of sanctions have failed to swamp the Russian ship of state. Numerous countries are decoupling from the dollar.
This time around the neocon threats will ring hollow and when Trump enters the room it will be as a huckster used car salesman with very little of a deal to offer.
Perhaps I will be proved wrong (as I was for 45) but the outlook is not rosy.
Consider fusty dusty OTAN, helmed now by Mark Rutte, who has not gotten the memo about neocon threats ringing hollow. OTAN, as front & center as an alliance can be, can't read the room: 1000 days after the SMO commenced, the world is vastly different.
Strategies which the U.S.-led OTAN thought relevant & timely on 23 February 2022 were already obsolete in ways no one within the alliance could apprehend or interrogate.
And they still can't.
A high-caliber mental illness makes people like Baerbock tell ordinary German citizens that they must expect in the future to pay a Ukraine Tax in order to keep this super-losing endeavor going
During 45 Trump was clearly just using these neocons for specific goals; hence, the very high turnover rate within that administration. Or at least that was one reason.
For 47 the whole government seems to have been "Trump Proofed" to the extent the deep state literally allowed him to win (helped him to win as well?) and it seems that now the neocons are fixing to use Trump like they themselves were previously used.
Hungary potentially offers post-Cold War 21st Century leadership possibilities, as does Slovakia, should OTAN attempt to find its relevance. Türkiye, never Russophobic, creates intriguing synergy.
The tough thing is that OTAN--that is to say Old Europe OTAN--can't pivot. Pivoting is anathema. The alliance even marginalizes & attempts to isolate Victor Orban.
Orban = "the stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone"
Curiously, DJT has strong rapport w/ Orban.
It is interesting to see the actual rapport that these new-era leaders (Orban, Vucic, Fico, Abe (RIP), Duterte (another casualty of the empire), Bolsanaro (another casualty), and Putin all seem to have. It stands in stark contrast to the dead-eyed 'consensus' whenever the puppets of the empire gather to mouth the official platitudes like a landed, dying fish.
Joe's admin aided & abetted OTAN's dead-eyed carp demeanor.
It's interesting that southeastern Europe potentially holds out hope for new-era leaders: Make Europe Yugoslavia Again.
I don't count Georgia out either. Here's hoping they can maintain.
Catch up on the latest from Duterte,,, his daughter this time. Vice President Sarah Duterte just publically threatened to assassinate President Marcos yesterday after he, and no doubt the CIA, threatened to kill her for her objection to American soldiers setting up shop in the Philippines again.
These dead-eyed puppets have one thing in common: they all are the spawn of Klaus Schwab's Young Global Leaders program. Schwab (Kissinger's protege and a frontman for the deep Cabal) ran a program for /decades/ selecting and prepping politicians to become Cabal-promoted candidates and eventually "statesmen" all over the world, especially but not exclusively the West.
Now, most of these YGLs were scions of well-placed freemasons and multimillionaires, or else ambitious up-and-comers in political cliques; but the program culled them based on, as far as I can tell, three criteria.
Firstly, they must have no moral backbone: be amoral opportunists or even psychopaths, with no qualms to commit whatever heinous act they will be instructed to do.
Secondly, they must be deeply mired in kompromat, ranging from embezzlement to pedophilia and many others in between; so that, should they hesitate to follow instructions, they can be squeezed by the figurative balls and brought into line. Coincidentally, this also means that they must be stupid, stupid enough to let themselves be entrapped like that.
Thirdly, they must be completely incompetent at what they administer, for two reasons: so that they do not understand the actual grand scheme to which their work contributes, but are satisfied with slogans; and also so that they are living in constant (justified) imposter syndrome, and thus rather than make their own decisions eagerly turn to their handlers for detailed instructions on what to do.
This last part was very visible during the Covid debacle; whenever things went south and policies had to be improvised, it took weeks to trickle new instructions down to the people "in charge". In the meantime they acted like the proverbial headless chicken.
These people are still in power now, all over the West; India and South America also have their share of these YGLs, but China's and Russia's counterintelligence have largely succeeded in filtering them out. And these ironically named "leaders" still do not know what to do, and follow yesterday's unworkable instructions until they are laboriously redirected. But their Talmudist handlers are few and mostly quite old, and are just unable to cope with discreetly micromanaging all these morons, especially when things change quickly.
This might be an important factor in the Cabal's resigned acquiescence to the Trump presidency; they've started to realize how useless their laboriously installed stooges really are, and decided to bite the bullet and let a true leader take the helm to handle the worst of the crisis; a leader they know very well back from the days of his NYC dealings, and think is mostly controllable on the key issues. Whether or not their trust will backfire on them remains to be seen.
Brilliant post I have to copy it.
Trump's election puts Orban as Europe's keystone?
turkiye and russia fought for centuries, they will never be friends; there is just too much bad history and the religious difference is insurmountable.
best they can do is an conjuncture alliance for a short time.
No resident of D.C. "let" Trump win. FFS- it still took 2 weeks for some counts in California. And Arizona uses Mexican Drug money to float their system.
The rigged polls had him losing, with 2 exceptions.
So...when you control the Narrative, yet get your teeth punched out, you become desperate. Fight or Flight. That is the D.C. decision at this moment.
Receipts please
And the worst part, if you believe German opinion polls, two thirds of Germans are in favor and with the next Schwarz/Gruen Coalition they will have the conservative, green, globalist warmonger, Friedrich Merz, as Bundeskanzler. Gute Nacht Deutschland!
Hard to see the inspiration in this mindset or any kind of generative longevity. It's as if something has smothered Germany
Or Germany has actively self-annihilated.
Germany has long given up on being a country of 'Dichter und Denker' (poets and thinkers), but so has the rest of the West.
Sad to lose the Goethe-ness
Und wenn der Mensch in seiner Qual verstummt, gab mir ein Got zu sagen was ich leide
Germany still hasn't tuned in that Merkel was always a CIA Asset.
well, goethe also said that its incredible how germans as individuals are nice people but as a group are a fucking nightmare. paraphrasing ofc :))
What might that be.
Germans like being slaves.
Das endgultige lösung for Germany. Most people thought Germany was prospering and were selfgoverning. And indeed, from Stunde Null, the germans built up their country and through enormous Arbeit they won their freedom. Sort of. Not until 1991 Germany got their freedom and when Schröder did the Northsteeam deal, US went bananas. UK and US has always sabotaged the locomotive of Europe. They dont want a strong Germany and US does everything to sever Geramny/Russia ties. Remember peaceloving Obongo tapping Merkels phone?
CIA created all the newspaper in Geramny after 1945 and hace since got the hold of them. Die Welle is a CIA-asset. So are the lugenpress.
Germans are the most indoctrinated people in the world, especially the young ones. I think Scholtz has been weak. And no wonder with those crazy bats like FDP and die Grunen. Best thing he has done is to stonewall usages of Taurus against Russia.
With Merz….Untergang 2.0
I found this a very interesting & pertinent article going back to when the SMO had only just started, it definitely worth reading.
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.
In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in.
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-crisis-in-ukraine-is-not-about-ukraine-its-about-germany/?highlight=north+stream+2
Exactly. I love you!
You are right to highlight the destruction of Germany by the U.S. and the dirty Brits. But Ukraine is not secondary. Killing Germany weakens Russia, but a completely hostile Ukraine a few hundred miles from Moscow ain't a bad trophy for D.C. either.
yeah, they thought they could hit two birds with the same stone; but the stone turned out to be a boomerang and hit them in the mouth.
Germany's low cost Energy lifeline, Nord Stream is blown up, after Biden says he will do it, and you think Scholtz has been weak?
Is there any other word in Deutsch that means " weakest, ever"?
Schlappschwanz.
This is indeed so. Pretty odd considering that majority does not support war against Russia. But that is what happen in Germany.
Considering wider view the West went so far with sanctions and war that it will be tough to return from that. The plan seems to be to destroy and possibly partition Russia. If so the outcome will be a disaster independent of the success.
I am more optimistic than that and expect to see the BDW and the AFW to make big gains from the left and right. Already in some German states the opposition to the proxy war by the BSW has prevented governments being formed.
two thirds equals the population of west-germany...
Plotting as their “leaders” (huh?) have the loss of Germany as a center for engineering excellence is an unconscionable affront to the German people.
Just as Rutte in the Netherlands has managed to convince both the socialists and the Christian Democrats of the neoliberal myth, he has also been very active on the European stage in recent years. After Merkel's departure, it was relatively easy for him to sway the inexperienced Greens and Socialists in Germany. He also successfully convinced Finland and Sweden to join NATO. Alongside Boris Johnson, he was an early and vocal supporter of Ukraine.
Since taking office on October 1, Rutte has already traveled extensively and been involved in numerous diplomatic engagements. He met with officials from Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea, alongside Blinken and NATO in Brussels. He has also played a key role in the ongoing situation with North Korea. Known for his extensive knowledge of files, his photographic memory, and his smooth political tactics, Rutte has earned the nickname "Mr. Tefal" for his ability to remain unscathed by controversy. Some label him a sociopath, others a psychopath. Either way, it’s wise to keep an eye on him.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/search.htm?query=Rutte+visits&submitSearch=
'smooth political tactics'?
Following the NATO copy book perfected by Jessie stumblebum is smooth?
It's a question of learning a number of banalities and re cycling them - even Obama could manage this much
Plus collecting money from the EU vassal states for the F-35 scam
MR is just a bag man
Now the F-35 sales are winding down and NATO turns out to be too expensive to maintain with no such steady income, his usefulness is limited, the yankas would say his days are numbered
What's your point? I like to see him disappear quickly. You talk a lot, but you often don't seem to know what you're saying. It's like you're trying to act tough, just copying and pasting things and pretending you came up with them yourself.
Not long ago, you told some weird story about Rutte supposedly bothering farmers in the Netherlands. If only that were true! The Netherlands actually has five times the average nitrogen emissions of the rest of Europe. It's all buried under the mess of the industrial farming system, and it's one of the most polluted countries out there.
Maybe you should stick your nose in that!
What's my point - MR is a bagman, an empty puppet repeating old banalities provided by his handlers
Who's importance as NATO's is disappearing
Was this not clear? Would you require words of one syllable only?
You are so taken with Ruto that you take him to be more than an empty suit
Wash the star struck from your eyes
Forget the farming scandals - wise up on Brits and Blackrock - comment coming soon, learn to read
By the way quoting news sources for what people say and do is the way S does his reporting as well as do all serious reporters
In your previous Substack, you were quite enthusiastic about a 6-year-old article about Klaus Schwab and Rutte. You couldn't stop talking about Rutte in several comments, and even brought up his bicycle (I won’t mention his saddle, though).
I know Rutte from Dutch politics and understand the damage he has caused—and can still cause. Underestimating a deeply disturbed person like him would be stupid.
As for Simplicius, no matter how much you might want to align yourself with him, that's a completely different category. You're not a reporter; you're the Tintin in Congo of this Substack.
Regarding the farmers: You positioned yourself as a protector of intensive agriculture and the manure surplus. But recently, on Karl’s Substack, you had an entirely opposite view on farming, one I actually agree with.
Mr. White, you don’t have to respond to everything and everyone. You do contribute valuable insights at times, but the quality gets diluted when you feel the need to chime in constantly. Can we tone it down a bit?
Baerbock has the persona of the limited reach of the average Adolf disciple.
She just looks like a materialistic, social climbing slut, to me.
Our 🇺🇸economic industrial base is being rapidly rebuilt, partly because of COVID, partly due to Russia sanctions impacting on us, the supply chain disruptions and collapse of globalism are actually good for America.
The alliance and NATO ?
Europe has to decide to live, with or without us, either way better for us if without,
I am against this war, like most veterans. Lunacy.
As to the anemic wartime munitions production; true, but that is a function of Pentagon Bureaucracy and a 6 year procurement cycle from identifying a requirement to contract; before anything is built.
That’s PPBOE (the DOD budgeting nightmare bureaucracy) and few government departments cry out for Efficiency like DOD. I go into detail to emphasize forced inefficiency in DOD budgeting does not reflect on the actual real economy, which is getting quite healthier rapidly. Don’t be misled.
I very much doubt Trump will escalate the War, the war hawks are being gulled or disingenuous- please recall this is the most dangerous transition since 1860-and again recall his first term.
As noted above he lets the Hawks screech then plays the dealmaker. For that matter Obama stayed out of it as much as he could. It took a POTUS as weak as Biden to let the Neocons run wild setting up a “second Israel.” Trump is far stronger going in than any President since FDR, easily. Easily.
MAGA doesn’t want any more wars, the military caste (again, we’re 80% generational) doesn’t want any more wars, and Trump certainly isn’t going to do any favors for the Deep State, who are the drivers on the war. Hegseth is well known to vets by the way and won’t be in favor of adventures either. Hegseth is there to clean out the Pentagon. Trump doesn’t have to care about his appearances via Putin, seriously.
Nothing more than ending this lunatic folly is of concern to his base. His agenda is domestic.
Trump and his real wrecking crew including Musk, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, AG nominee Bondi is coming to wreck the Deep State.
The DS wasn’t incorrect to try and jail or kill him, their mistake was failing so badly. This man is now in effect a King. He’s a King that wants to clean house, not continue inane, useless and losing adventures abroad.
Again I’m a veteran and against the war, I’m not alone.
Don’t worry about Trump escalation 😂 and ignore transition rhetoric.
Cheers
I hope you are correct, but experience tells me to be cautious.
I agree. I love the optimism but I'm just too cynical to see it going down like this.
There will be much trouble.
The reshoring isn’t speculative or plans though but already well underway.
A difference to his first term might be that meanwhile his daughter has married Kushner and Ivana passed away.
She married him long before
The difference is Trump sees DC far more clearly since being arrested and shot.
Trump's sons stood by him in 2020. Ivanka and Jared treated him like a disease.
I had no idea! I learned about it so late during the first presidency and it was being presented in a way that made it seem so recent. I have to pay better attention.
Excellent comment and I agree fully. Trump can't do anything until 1/20, so the choices in various positions are for show purposes mostly. Concerning Hesgeth, a veteran with a conscience, the DS via their patsies in the senate, want to derail his confirmation because he's an existential threat to the MIC, channeling Trump's policies toward peace and cooperation, as opposed to the current, ongoing destabilization and conflict.
Just want to point out that our author, Simplicius, places too much emphasis on reportage from the likes of BBC, the Economist, Politco, NYTimes, and other propaganda organs. Notice how WaPo has been toning down the rhetoric for months, first, by not endorsing anybody, now, by slowing their roll re: Ukraine/Russia. Bezos is no fool. He knows he better toe the line with Donald or end up badly damaged, like in the direction Google is headed. 56 more days to wait this out. Blinken and Sullivan probably already have their passports handy. They may end up the major casualties from this fiasco. IMO, they should be tried for treason, along with a handful of other operatives in and around congress.
I have great faith that the U.S. can extricate itself from the mess created by four years of DS control. Trump is the tip of the spear. The American people have had enough.
«Blinken and Sullivan probably already have their passports handy. They may end up the major casualties from this fiasco. IMO, they should be tried for treason, along with a handful of other operatives in and around congress.» - to the God’ ear.
Billionaire Bezos, owner of the political but money-losing tool, WaPo, "by not endorsing anybody", knew the real polls.
And you will be hard pressed to find a Billionaire who hasn't made his money without Government connections.
Don't kid yourself. Personnel is policy, and Trump's picks for personnel have made the policy oif his administration clear.
hopium is strong with this one; at least Simplicius back paddled a bit.
With whom is hopium strong?
Trump is likely wary of being slapped with Logan act violations, again.
I'd love to see arrests and convictions.
"Our U.S. economic industrial base is being rapidly rebuilt,"
What is visible is heavy investment in Microchip/Sheet technology/AI for replacing Taiwan.
I see no Heavy Industrial investment.
@the long warred
To hope for the best is not a sin?
(although it’s not much of a strategy, either)
Not hope, no need to just hope.
We have a leader and this time he had the sense to build a cadre and a bench and nearly all young, nearly all men. That’s the mistake he avoided this time.
Ho Chi Minh didn’t win the Vietnam war - he died of old age before it ended. His cadres of men won it years later.
Trump may be the SINGULAR BOOMER who built a competent bench of young replacements.
…the rest of them- McConnell, Pelosi, all the rest didn’t.
Trump has a young, competent bench.
Their replacements can’t, their replacements are useless creatures like AOC , or Alvin Bragg , or their withered children.
nice to see u found time to think about such important matters between bombing some poor fuckers; but you are wrong, trump is the product of his time/class and will die like that.
there is no 'bench' of competent(lol) young people, its just some new blood brought in the same imperialistic system.
u guys, as the brits which were your model, are nothing but a parasite; a cancer that eats humanity.
but at least the brits did some technological advances, you brought nothing to this world, not even the nuclear bomb; even that was built by imported scientists.
a man with a conscience would never wear that uniform.
If you tell me what innocent country you’re from, I’ll be happy to catalog your wonderful and enlightening rule. Innocent as lambs I’m sure, and with no parasitism in rule I’m sure.
Conscience your guide, I’m sure.
Our mistake was ever touching the rest of the world at all.
Otherwise- Have a nice life Vader.
Or whatever.
I know no Russian was shameless enough to write that, right Vader Retro? Lol.
Jesus Christ you worked 30-40 million of your own to death within living memory in the camps, and the Tsars weren’t exactly Saints either, never mind the Rus. Who first enslaved the Slavs? The Rus. The most monstrous of the Vikings.
I suppose we can skip the Tartars? No Ghenghis Khan DNA running around Russia today?
This is why Education and History, Literacy is a complete waste. Most live in the moment.
One more thing; 91,000 Americans died in Korea and Vietnam with very heavy help from the Russians , not counting a million Koreans and 500,000 Vietnamese. Your proxies.
We may at present be a tad parasitical, although strangely we’re paying for it (?) .
You have been a curse on Asia for 1000 years. You are the congealed sum of Viking Rus, Mongols, Tartars. None of your neighbors have had a moments peace in 1000 years.
But that’s not our 🇺🇸 problem, we’re leaving.
Ta.
what kind of fucked up logic is that lol?
so if a country has a parasitic rule is ok to bomb it?
is cuba ruled by parasites? was panama or nicaragua ruled by parasites?
did u torture those iraqis in abu ghraib because saddam made u do it?
gtfo here u dim witted murderer u :)))
Globalism isn’t collapsing at all, America is just being increasingly cut out of the action. All you have to do is compare GDP growth rates between the major powers to see that the US is in enormous trouble.
The US empire is in irreversible collapse, BRICS is ascendant and China will be the global superpower within a few years.
We don’t want or need an Empire, CONUS itself can quite be an autarky. We just voted to get rid of the Empire. Don’t threaten us with a good time! 😂
It’s not just we don’t want it, dismantling the Empire dismantles the reason for the Deep State especially Intelligence, which is the Muscle for the Bureaucracy aka Deep State. They certainly have alienated the US Military and Police, who were always of a Dim View of this anyway.
Most of our commerce internal, most of our foreign trade to Canada or Mexico- over land.
We’re also reshoring and rebuilding our industries at a very rapid clip. We’re running into land and labor shortages for manufacturing, these are good problems to have-
Bonus; in 56 days when Trump takes the Oath, the risk of nuclear war drops significantly. This may indeed affect the rest of you… not that we GAF.
You may return to killing each other in peace, I don’t know what we were thinking, but it’s over.
Without Chinese imports, the US export market gets slashed or did you think that all those components were domestically produced?
One look at Trump’s appointees refutes your premise utterly. His administration is chocked to the gills with neo-cons. It will be more of the same unfortunately though now the US is messing with countries that can hit back. The US is in enormous trouble, things will go from bad to worse in the coming years.
We’re reshoring at an enormous clip. We can quite make do with waiting a couple of years with the older but working devices, and we don’t need new toys or luxuries as badly as industry and jobs. Reshoring link below.
You may have missed it, but Trump is going to slap 25% Tariffs on Canada and Mexico day one, and is more than willing to Tariff China- about which- when China is in trouble it pulls up the drawbridge, mans the walls and turns inward.
As do we 🇺🇸 as we do now.
We need nothing from abroad that is essential and most of our commerce internal, we’re the world’s largest market. Most of our foreign trade Canada and Mexico, and you see we can quite cut them at the knees.
I think you’re looking at old information. Or a model and you discard anything that doesn’t fit?
In the model we are doomed?
Well we disagree.
As to business as usual and the dreaded neocons; Gabbard, Hegseth, Ratcliffe, Walz are not neocons. Rubio will do as he’s told. State Department is no prize at present. As far as the bureaucracy rules - the bureaucracy has easily been put into hysteria by Project 2025, Agenda 47 hardly reassuring, and that’s before Musk is announced as the Grim Reaper of the Administrative state.
You’re also overlooking the Deep State had Trump arrested, Prosecuted then SHOT. He isn’t going to wait for them to come again.
Business as usual? Here’s Trump on the Deep State.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-president-trumps-plan-to-dismantle-the-deep-state-and-return-power-to-the-american-people
Reshoring
https://www.fticonsulting.com/insights/articles/return-manufacturing-north-americas-reshoring-movement
This is Business as usual?!?
TRUMP -
““Every day this proxy battle in Ukraine continues, we risk global war,” President Trump said. “We must be absolutely clear that our objective is to IMMEDIATELY have a total cessation of hostilities. All shooting has to stop. This is the central issue. We need PEACE without delay.”
“There must also be a complete commitment to dismantling the entire globalist neo-con establishment that is perpetually dragging us into endless wars, pretending to fight for freedom and democracy abroad, while they turn us into a third-world country and a third-world dictatorship right here at home. The State Department, the defense bureaucracy, the intelligence services, and all the rest need to be completely overhauled and reconstituted to fire the Deep Staters and put America First.”
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-preventing-world-war-iii
Not rosy, that is, for the Empire.
At what point of his last presidency did Ivanka marry Kushner? Start, middle, end? I sometimes wonder if or to what extent that event in his family might have redirected Trump's thinking and loyalties. Now he still does have a European Eastern block wife, but for instance Ivana who may have been a strong pro Eastern block factor for him has passed away, reducing his intra-familial bonds to that part of the world, and consequently the 'moral surveillance' on his attitudes and actions in that regard.
There's no leftist ideology in the US military 🤣😂🤣
Fucking 🤡
Of course not. Just bureaucracy sitting on top of the military.
And the bureaucracy will say anything.
You were wrong in 1945? How old are you?
The 45th presidency, DJT's previous stint.
Thank you! I was thinking about getting a 45 in case La Estúpida cheated her way in to the White House and the country went further south.
Like how Trump twice cucked out of leaving Syria?
Like how the neocons made sure that no deal could be done with Norht Korea?
Like how Trump escalated tensions with Russia?
The current Ukraine war can be partially attributed to Trump (who armed them more than any other President).
Assassinating Soleimani was another huge blunder as was recognising Jerusalem as capital.
The man is a fool being played by warmongers, no different from the other empty suits who formerly held office.
Nuclear war it is then !
First use of kinetic orbital bombardment. Direct conversion of kinetic energy into heat...same a an asteroid impact.
Ukrainosaurus soon will go extinct
Not only heat - tremendous shock wave as well resulting both from the heat and the kinetic impact - truly a kiss from the gods.
Tell me again, Uncle Schlomo, how hard is it to crack the shell of your bunker?
Apparently the kinetic element "rods from God" were composed of metals capable of first storing thermal energy from atmospheric friction after rekease & then releasing that energy to target along with their kinetic energy, with this material additionally undergoing energetic reactions (with atmosphere?) after being liquidized/vaporized? I have some material & chemistry research to do... Titanium? Hafnium? Their carbides, perhaps?
With a kinetic impact of sufficient energy , the hardness or temperature of the impactor is irrelevant; the key parameter is density. The same principle applies to armor-piercing impactors, which is why the US is using depleted uranium, and everyone else, tungsten.
Tungsten was also the proposed material for project Thor a.k.a. "rods from God". I presume the kinetic impactors @Yuzhnyemash were also tungsten. It has the added advantage of staying solid at white-hot temperatures, which may help maintain impactor integrity at the first critical moment before it turns into plasma and continues on.
Do you believe converting tungsten entirely or even mostly to an actual plasma state is possible with the kinetic energy from a 3,400 m/sec impact? Have you done the math.
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There are about 5.4 mol weights of W per kg.
One mol weight of W requires about 30.72 kj energy to melt it, let alone convert to gas, or further, into a plasma, so 167.4 kj/kg to melt a pure tungsten rod.
One kg mass at 3,400 m/second = 5,780 kj kinetic energy.
Latent heat of vaporization of Tungsten is 824 kJ/mol, so vaporizing 1kg of W requires an additional 4,449.6 kj/kg.
Therefore if I have not skipped any zeroes or misplaced a decimal point, it will require about
4,617 kj/kg to convert solid W to a gas. This is just about 80% of the theoretically available kinetic energy.
It requires an additional 7.98 x 10^5 joules/mol to ionize that tungsten gas, or 4,309.2 kj/kg.
With substantial energy certainly going elsewhere during the impact, I don't expect to have an W plasma as the primary state of matter penetrating the structure?
Well, the shaped-charge AP rounds generate a jet of liquid metal (copper in that case), so I guess that is quite sufficient. I retract the plasma bit.
I have extracted the elongated "carrots" formed from inverted cone liners from lined charge targets hit at ideal stand off distances. They were solid when striking the steel, liquids or attenuated streams of particles/droplets are less efficient.
Science writers repeat the same bits of (not quite right) information as gospel and they may echo around the net forever...
(Yes, I still have all my fingers)
Demonstrating a weapon which the West hasn’t a prayer to destroy or to deploy itself is not escalation: it is a harbinger of forthcoming doom. Make peace, you idiots! Not even Elon’s fancy pair of chopsticks can pluck Hazel out of the sky.
In a side by side comparison w/ the Oreshnik, America’s Hall Pass to Ukraine—a permission slip, if you will—to launch ATACMS is a feeble riposte. Ukraine apparently has a limited number of long-range missiles anyway. Once they’ve fired them @ Christmas Markets in Bryansk & Belgorod, Ukraine will still be losing on the original LOC & also in Kursk, where Russia has pushed Ukraine out of 60% of the territory it surprisingly seized back in August. The degeneration of the West’s strategy has reached an endgame Western cheerleaders of Project Ukraine find unexpected but which non-Western observers find inevitable .
Winning the war, steaming full speed ahead on the path of victory, Russia would commonsensically be disinclined to use nuclear weapons unless as a last resort. In 1000 days of the SMO VVP has not exhibited a tendency toward hot-headed aggressive reprisals. Moreover, Russia cannot be bought off w/ a gift of territory in Donbas or a a lifting of economic sanctions without a deal that resolves their fundamental security concerns in Ukraine. Joe’s admin has tried to force a poisoned chalice on Russia, the latter of whom is having none of it: the Kursk Incursion did nothing to deter Russia but only strengthened it, giving it more resolve.
Assuming that the Hazel is as deadly as Simplicus reports [subject the fog of war], then NATO leaders/generals etc will know that their deep underground bunkers will not save them if conventional war breaks out. They would be first on the target list IMHO. Notwithstanding a decapitation strike would make a war hard to fight and win, the prospect of meeting one's maker might concentrate minds. And I think this might be behind the reported "panic" within NATO senior ranks. The only response would be WMD which leads to MAD. So I would not be surprised if NATO classifies the non-nuke Hazel as a WMD as they have no counter. Either way, I think if the cold war went hot so to speak, we are looking at a worst case scenario very quickly. I don't buy the theory that NATO can attack Russia via its Ukraine proxy and that this will be OK.
Agreed.
Guiding Storm Shadows and ATACMS from within Ukraine toward targets in Russia makes the Anglo-Americans direct & explicit belligerents in the war.
Yes, they are. Yes, the attacks in Russia continue.
What does Russia propose to do about it?
what they did in ww2; absorb punishment until the time is right to totally destroy the enemy.
this is what westerners don`t understand. we of east europe had maybe 3 generation w/o some kind of (total) war on our territory; our whole culture is 'designed' around that, we long ago made peace with the fact that war is inevitable and our loved ones can die at any moment.
This war soon will be going longer than WWII. Stop kidding yourself.
it will be what it will bel.
we went through ww1 and ww2, god willing we will get through ww3 too and if its nuclear then thats that.
russians lost >20 milions in ww2, this is just a schoolyard ruckus for the moment.
Any conventional war will rapidly go nuclear.
It's all relative to just how deep these bunkers are. The ones for the masters of the Cabal, in Zurich and Geneva in Switzerland, go right under the roots of the Alps. Some key command bunkers, in Russia, the US, and presumably in China, also go deep enough---more like mines than bunkers---that you cannot get to them by punching a hole in the ground. But there is a flip side: it is actually easier to seal such deep bunkers permanently, with all the rot inside, that it would be for normal ones.
Rev 6:16
Yankland is running out of munitions. It has no credible manufacturing base, has sent what it could spare to Israel and Ukraine, and now can't meet its obligations even for spare parts to its global customers.
Russia just keeps on ramping up production, so does North Korea, China, Iran, India, Turkey.
Russia, China and Turkey are at a minimum at least a decade ahead when it comes to advanced weapons, probably a lot more.
The withering snake(s)! I do not like the snake(s). Nope, not one bit. God, must guide Mother Russia. Each breath I take to my early grave is for the Sun to Rise in the East. 🐈⬛❤️🇷🇺💙
The ground penetration of the RV's explains why there is no big flash or explosion as you would normally see, I have to say the video of them piercing the clouds is truly terrifying.
https://rumble.com/v5stc2e-mirv-1.html
https://rumble.com/v5stcfb-mirv-2.html
"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen'
Revelations 1 : 5
I have said from the start, the Brits and US will never agree to a peace on Russia's terms, why would they?. European pragmatism regarding the conflict decreases the further you get from Russia's borders. The yapping Baltic chihuahuas are of no consequence.
It seems Russia's best chance for a speedy end would be to turn Ukraine's military leadership against their political leadership. Recall that Ukrainian military stationed in Crimea were encouraged to defect, and allowed to keep their rank and pension status. Most did so.
Granted, it will be a harder sell than the Ukrainian soldiers in 2014 Crimea who were never shot at. After 3 years of war there is a high degree of psychological entrenchment, but mass defection is not mission impossible if morale is as bad as it seems.
It would effectively neutralize the intransigent Brits and Americans.
A military coup into a negotiated surrender remains the most likely ending to the conflict in my opinion.
Simply because NATO has no space to offer Russia what Russia actually wants. So the war will have to go on past any patriotic military man’s acceptable limits.
No doubt the whole military chain of command is tightly packed with NATO loyalists to prevent anything like that from happening. But avoiding it will certainly test CIA/MI6 ability to control their golem in the coming months.
Crimeans turned their coats because they weren’t Ukrainian military after all, Crimea was still Russia. A handful of Western Ukrainian detachments tried to fight back.
In response to Oreshnik’s debut, Joe’s Pentagon is allegedly providing Ukraine w/ hundreds of additional Patriot and AMRAAM interceptors to strengthen its air defense, though Tom Karako, director of the Missile Defense Project at CSIS, told Defense One mag that Russia’s new missile “would be a hard thing to defend against.”
Featuring a MIRV payload—multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle—the Oreshnik “presents a wicked hard problem,” according to Karako, “trying to hit multiple objects if it’s coming in super fast, especially if it’s an intermediate-range ballistic missile on a lofted trajectory.”
Karako cautioned against all the hype surrounding Oreshnik’s combat-test, though: “I don’t think we should fall for it. Ukraine should continue firing ATACMS and Storm Shadows into Russia. And we should supply other equipment that gives Ukraine a winning strategy, no-kidding, and puts them in a better position to negotiate from a position of strength.”
In other words, keep on keeping on.
The Institute for the Study of War chimed in additionally: “Neither the Oreshnik ballistic missile strike nor Putin's November 21 statement represent a significant inflection in Russian strike capabilities or likeliness to use a nuclear weapon. The West maintains credible deterrence options and Putin's nuclear saber-rattling should not constrain Western officials from aiding Ukraine.”
In other words, nothing to see here.
Although the ISW claims VVP is “nuclear saber-rattling” in adjusting Russia’s nuclear doctrine on 19 November, it is unnecessary for him to be the first to reach for the Red Button simply because his military has an ample array of conventional weapons with which to put the hurt on Ukraine and, if need be, the West long before a nuke would be existentially essential.
Minimizing the Oreshnik’s effect on the U.S.’s strategy in Ukraine, the ISW maintains a “steady as she blows” forward stance, which is important in their *public* statements. Ditto w/ Tom Karako and other experts in the West: best to minimize & diminish. “Putin is bluffing” is the trope that comes into play. Privately, though, one must believe that more got shattered on 21 November than merely the Yuzhmash plant in Dnepropetrovsk.
I called it repeatedly back in the day: Trump's idea of negotiations was to threaten Russia with $500 bln of arms supplies to Ukraine if Putin doesn't back down, from the very beginning. They will keep going at it until either massive public protests make them reconsider or Putin will finally be forced to strike something of theirs. Given the still-permeating euphoria of Trump’s voters, it's likely to be the latter.
Trump, I assume, has no notions about any further aid to Ukraine, especially nothing in the $500 billion range. As a negotiator, Trump is aware of the hand he's been dealt, and Putin's massive advantage. Thus, his negotiating terms will likely be focused on de-militarizing Ukraine and cooling down NATO. The big kickers are sanctions and the stolen Russian reserves, some $300 billion.
Morally, the U.S. and Europe has no right to Russia's money and Trump can leverage the return of Russia's funds into more favorable terms on the ground. At the end of the day, Russia will own Ukraine from the Dnieper Eastward and Western Ukraine will become a DMZ. There are plenty of details to be worked out along the way, but Trump and Putin are rational men with similar goals, which are to end the conflict and start rebuilding trust. I believe they will succeed.
You'll be surprised how it plays out in a few years. Trump is charged with cooling down the conflict because the United States are outgunned and need time to prepare, but now it's obvious that we'll get to see the end of it only in 2030s, with direct demolition of NATO. Hope to see y'all there.
There will be no protests. There will be war.
The additional missiles aren't there to defend against Oreshnik, no matter what NATO spokesmen claim.
It's just a pretext to supply Ukraine more arms.
The Ukies say no such thing as a wonder weapon. Early satellite pics showed no damage. The Ukies were right.
The Russians fooled the world with a fancy firework show.
Assuming a solid metal kinetic penetrator travelling at close to Mach 10 then the average factory roof is going to offer about as much resistance as tissue paper does to to a bullet, transferring almost no energy to the above-ground structure and perhaps doing no more than blow out the windows, all invisible from low-res satellite images. All the energy is going to be dumped into the ground during its penetration to a depth of several metres. I don't know whether the shock wave would be sufficient to shatter the foundations and all the utility connections or whether the resultant cloud of vaporised rock and metal in an enclosed underground space would be enough to destroy everything down there, but if I were you I'd wait for a tour of the basement levels before making a fool of yourself by calling it nothing more than a fireworks show.
Those car alarms going off a few miles away suggests something like that.
No reports on shockwawes or ”earthquakes” from Dnipropetrovsk. Should it not show up?
We're only talking the kinetic energy equivalent of maybe a 2000 lb bomb per warhead. Multiply by 32 for the entire barrage. That's a pretty big bang but not so big that it's going to turn the basements of the entire complex into "dust" or show up on distant seismographs. I don't actually have the expertise or intuition to guess how effective the strike might be which is why I would want the underground video tour. I do wonder whether the shock might compromise the foundations badly enough to make the complex a tear-down (even if it looks basically undamaged from above) and whether the heat generated (enough to vaporize metal at the point of impact) would be enough to propagate destruction throughout the underground spaces. Aerial pictures and Ukrainian denials are not enough to tell the story.
36
6x6 is 36.
2000 Lb/warhead is ridiculous. It would be 36 x 1000kg = 36 tons.
No carrier for that. Read myc comment on Victor below. There were no more than 3,6 tons of equialent of explosive. The warheads contained no explosives - only kinetic energy.
Ironically, Bulava has 36 tons payload, Jars and Topol 46 and 45, resp. Just looked it up, but of course, wikipedia is not always reliable.
Basic understanding….Topol weighs 46 tons. Not the warhead.
@James
I am making SWAGs* re: What the kinetic impactors used against Yuzmash might have been and thinking about what TOTAL energy they could have delivered.
*(SWAG = Scientific Wild Assed Guess)
Assume there were 36 impactors at 100kg each, velocity of 3,400 m/sec for a start. We get a kinetic energy equal to about 138 kilograms of TNT per impactor.
But that is not NEARLY all the energy which might be involved?
Those impactors were undergoing atmospheric heating, indeed they required high tech materials science to survive the thermal energy they must have absorbed. How HOT were these things, what were the materials involved, heat capacity? How many more j in heat energy did they bring to the party???
We have RF statements that impactors were "metal weights". Shortly after arrival, they were likely converted from near melting point metal to liquid and even vapor, with some of that reacting exothermically (burning!) with whatever air or OTHER elements was available to react with in those underground factory spaces. Many types of metal can fuel fires which are VERY energetic, several of them will "burn" in nitrogen as well as oxygen, several are even capable of combining with CO2 and/or water vapor (soil is generally damp).
Looking at which metals/alloys could withstand heat of reentry at mach 10 while retaining sufficient strength at very high temperatures, I thought of recently developed refractory high or medium entropy alloys (RHEAs/RMEAs).
This class of alloys are composed largely of such elements as titanium, zirconium, even hafnium, plus a few other modifying rare earth & other metals.
Titanium, zirconium and hafnium are very reactive as fine droplets/vapor/dust sized particles, may even be pyrophoric, with small particles spontaneously combusting in air or igniting in air from moderate impact or electrostatic discharges.They are also capable of combining exothermically with nitrogen, water vapor and CO2 as well. The additional energy from 100kg of any of these metals burned in air is rather more than that of a similar weight of TNT.
My SWAGs suggest that the total energy released by those impactors may have been 2 to 6 times their kinetic energy alone. If the impactor materials vaporized and burned with a fuel air explosive type effect in the underground spaces, they could also have given a prolonged over pressure effect along with their extremely high heats of combustion.
Paradigm has changed!
TNT (or any other conventional chemical explosive) is not the payload choice if such velocities are available in delivery systems, even less so if payload is more constrained by volume than mass.
Damn.
At high enough temperatures any metal might oxidize, but that process is too slow to matter much here---burning is a subsonic process, and we are dealing with supersonic shockwaves here as the main means of spreading destruction.
As I explained in another post here, tungsten is the most likely metal involved, unless the Russians were to stoop to American dirtiness and use depleted uranium. Just about the only thing that matters in a kinetic impactor is the density of the impactor, period. No fancy chemistry is fast enough. Any overpressure will be caused by spreading shockwaves.
@RalfB
It's not just the density, it is also the MASS. To be precise, penetration ability is related to SECTIONAL DENSITY while kinetic energy of impactor is related to mass and square of velocity.
And for the "behind armor effects" good old combustion chemistry can indeed be VERY relevant.
As far as combustion being "too slow", combustion fronts in gasses driven by a sufficient shock initiation can indeed be supersonic, (ie, gas mixtures CAN propagate and sustain true detonation waves), that is why a thermobaric device WORKS.
See US Bureau of mines gallery tests, as well as light gas gun driver technologies for additional well characterised examples.
Are you a physicist, chemist, weapons engineer? We may be having a pointless discussion here.
Do you believe there is any credibility to claims of finding semi-intact pieces of the impactors?
@Paul L
Without REALLY knowing ANYTHING concrete about impactor design, construction materials and any related delivery/guidance systems? Much less where & when objects were found? I can't assign (or deny) credibility.
I have seen pictures of various mangled, twisted & burnt up "stuff". Which could be debris from impactor, the "buss" which carried impactors, final stage of a delivery vehicle or even bits and pieces of some locally produced missile systems that were in the area struck (Yuzmash have been making aerospace stuff since 1950's USSR, think they might have a few "junk drawers" and old store rooms with 60+ years worth of assorted left over bits?).
Or debris left over from the several missile/drone attacks which Yuzmash suffered previously.
Plus, Ukraine has never let reality or logic intrude into their PR when it was unprofitable?
"whether the heat generated. . .would be enough to propagate destruction throughout the underground spaces"
It's not the heat, it's the humidity. Er, I mean the shockwave. It can pulp lungs and strip skin from flesh, not much different from how the thermobarics clean out enclosed spaces without necessarily exploding them.
If you can picture illustrations of the amount of spalling in the interior of a tank turret being struck by an AT round.. That is what the concrete bunkers under Yuzmash would look like.
You're either retarded or delusional.
Never made it to high school, huh?
The RUSSIAN ballistic missile at Mach 10 filmed flying over Russia before it struck Dnipro, UKRAINE : https://www.bitchute.com/video/JwSO3vplfdrC
Hazel unleashed : https://www.bitchute.com/video/wQ1alG4VCLb2
The air smells of winter and "Oreshnik" [Hazel] : https://www.bitchute.com/video/CSHmhHGKEmnD
Vladimir Putin addresses the nation : https://www.bitchute.com/video/LCgsCPiWz4tJ
Let us break this down;
Hazel travels in excess of Mach 10.
Mach 10 is approximately 11.9 Thousand kph.
11,900,000/60 = 198,333.333* metres per minute.
198,333.333*/60 = 3,305.555* a second.
I'll leave it to you to calculate the kinetic energy delivered/dissipated when a sizeable object travelling at that speed comes to an abrupt halt.
There is doubt as to if these sublets even carried H.E. They may have been empty or full of grain.
This is a description from a local as described in Simplicius'report :
"Yuzhmash is gone. It hit so hard that everyone just threw up their hands. It was like God sent us his arrows. People went to the enterprise to find out what happened - but it simply was not there. There are no workshops, only dust remains," eyewitnesses say.
For Yanks who know only Imperial measurement, the following will be of help;
11,900kph = 7394.317mph.
198,333.333metres per minute = 650,699.9 feet per minute.
3,305.555 metres per second = 10,845 feet per second or 2.053977 MILES per second.