The US has finally capitulated in its disastrously failed war against Iran, reportedly drafting a memorandum of understanding which is highly favorable to the Islamic Republic, and gains as concession nothing more than the promise that “Iran will not obtain nuclear weapons”—a position Iran had already long held.
the solution is for Erdogan to facilitate drone capabilities to come to Hezbollah from Iran for use against Israel. AFU has shown what is possible here.
EVERY SINGLE Israeli facility of any kind can be struck daily RIGHT NOW by hundreds of drones. Their vaunted airforce could be neutralized in one week by what AFU has right now.
And then you just stop and let the juze kvetch and fume and oy vey and tell some more holocaust yarns
Sure, and if Israel does indeed have the nuclear weapons they are thought to have, what happens then? Recall the Samson option was supposed to be if we are going down we will take everybody else with us.
Maybe so, but if they feel they are going down anyway it would be a big fuck you to their biggest adversary in the region. I don't understand how you say they lose that ability. If they have the weapons and want to use them I'm sure they can deliver them one way or another -- even if it is by driving a truck. They wouldn't win, and they wouldn't even take out most of the cities, but they could still cause immense destruction.
they could cause a lot of deaths sure, but not decisively....and that would presuppose that they are done. It'd be a last hurrah but Samson didn't get every enemy, just those in the hall.
the juze are certainly psychopathic enough to do such a thing; don't get me wrong. I'm certain if i did a bit of digging i would find that there are influential israeli commenters who've said both that israel should become a de jure nuclear weapons state and that they should use them on Iran.
as for justification for this, amalek or the holocaust or some shit...we all know that the iranians gassed 6 million of them or something.
Uh, we know the values of the frozen assets, and I don't know about you or your financial situation, but $200-300,000,000,000 would be personally appreciated, 30 years ago or now. I don't know the details, but as Russia's frozen assets are also increasing in value as the assets increase, it should be assumed the same can be true for Iran's.
Iran will need that money FOR reconstruction, the USrael wrought destruction across the country. And many buildings will have to be rebuilt stronger, and with new bomb shelters.
Along with the repayments of debts, very little will end up as Iranian gold bars in vaults, I expect.
Meantime at G7 in Paris are reading for another turn in Middle East. America needs European's troops on the ground to help Great Israel - so first in Turkey, later Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia. To control Hormuz and Suez.
"The contours of a deal, under which Trump supports Europe on the Ukraine issue in exchange for Europe's help in securing the Strait of Hormuz, are beginning to emerge," Politico writes.
From what I read, anything can change at Trump's will. As of tonight.
Tankers won't be moving for another 2-4 weeks, until they are sure everything is kosher. Too big risk.
Stage for the second part of war, far more dangerous and deadly, is already set up.
Natanyahu Gazzing Beirut again and Iran very strong retaliation.
Israeli attempt of very precise and powerful decapitation strikes on all Iranian leadership will be unsuccessful, as Iran has learned and moved to deep bunkers.
Israeli false flag nuclear contamination of it's own installations and asking the US Congress and UN for a war against Iran. That would be after the Football Cup ends, so around 24.07.
Israel false flag bombing nuclear Incirlik Air Base in Turkey in August. That would be the first step of aggression on Turkey, even as initially the US will send more troops there. And European NATO heavy armed contingents send to Turkey as Article 4 would be invoked.
Turkey will be forced to allow all this, even fully realising those are occupational forces in interest of Israel. But as this year end, they would have no other choice as to leave NATO alliance and go under Russian nuclear umbrella.
For a good measure Israel will also bomb nuclear airfield in Italy. And American naval and strategic bases in Greece, Romania. They need military panic also directly in Europe.
Meantime at G7 in Paris are reading for another turn in Middle East. America needs European's troops on the ground to help Great Israel - so first in Turkey, later Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia. To control Hormuz and Suez.
"The contours of a deal, under which Trump supports Europe on the Ukraine issue in exchange for Europe's help in securing the Strait of Hormuz, are beginning to emerge," Politico writes.
You can read all since 2nd May under each free Simplicious articles. Usually they are at the very top of discussion, mostly the first comment. Here chronologically
Trump would not start any military operations during the World Cup at his will. He needs all attention to USA. He asked Natanyahu not to attack during the Cup but Israel is making Beirut and Lebanon the second Gaza genocide.
In turn Iran will massively attack Israel, with Israel nuclear retaliation done through false flag operation. That retaliation will not be immediate - the Cup is ending on Sunday 19th July, so the following Sabat 24-25th July is likely the date.
They will blame Iran for that false flag to get Congress approval for formal war.
Trump will want it done fast, just in 3 days. Every day more deadly then the previous.
So you are of the lineage of extreme cowards that throw their families at the feet of invaders because they cannot stand the fact of being called names by foreign entities? Yea, sounds about right.
It's nothing. We'll see the actual validity of the ceasefire after the Israelis ramp up their combat operations in defiance of it. That will be the true test of "tail wags dog" or vice versa.
Exactly. It doesnt matter that ”Trump was finally forced to blink when he realized that Iran wasn’t going to lose this game”. Its an existencial battle for Iran against Israel.
1) None of the positive for Iran things in the MoU are firm guarantees with precises conditions and deadlines. And nobody has any intention to do those things anyway, they will remain empty promises
2) The US has not been physically removed from near Iran. Which was a mandatory outcome for Iran out of this war. But the bases are still there. They had to be pushed back at least 1500 km so that they cannot launch mass swarms of kamikaze drones the way they are doing to Russia now.
3) Zero deterrence has been imposed. Iran's leadership has been killed, Trump is alive, Hegseth is alive, Netanyahu is alive, etc. It was absolutely mandatory to take out Trump and Netanyahu at the very least to reimpose some deterrence. And to go after soft targets such as the Jewish billionaires in their mansions and yachts. Lots of ways to do that. But it wasn't done.
4) They didn't sink any US ships and thus neither the massacres of civilians such as Minab, nor the cowardly sinking of the Iranian ship near India, have been avenged.
5) Hit-and-run has in fact been normalized. Sure, Iran "responds", but not in a way that reenforces deterrence
6) The US is getting six months to retool and will resume the war after the midterms. Meanwhile it is already perfecting TEL hunting techniques in Russia through Starlink and kamikaze drones, i.e. next time it will not be relying on expensive MALE drones to do it and will suppress Iranian launches much more effectively.
"A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), also referred to as a Letter of Intent (LOI) or Letter of Agreement (LOA), is a formal yet non-binding agreement between two or more parties. It outlines present intentions, roles, and objectives, serving as a mutual acknowledgment of potential outcomes and processes."
The Iranians know a ceasefire is just a tool of war to rethink your last dumb move.
The US has become the thing most often portrayed in Hollywood as the most hated. A mean, aggressive and unthinking bully.
The memories of victims are very long. The world organizes itself in defence of civilians against the country overwhelming voted most dangerous.
The dangers sold to us by advertisers cross all boundaries. Enemies foreign and domestic holds the key. Oh name a foreign country we have not wanted to destroy, it's high time we start looking into domestic!
Iran has very tough choices. I think this one was a mistake, but they could have good reasons for it. Russia, on the other hand, is putting on a demo of how to fuck everything up. Or else the real goal is not what they say it is.
The source of point 2) is Abramovich in persona. He mentioned this relocation in Istambul. Israel is therefore well informed. All details were discussed in an interview given by Pepe Escobar.
For Russia it's perhaps the best possible outcome, to implement a puffer-zone between the new oblasts and Europe. The implementation of such a zone is very cost intensiv (money thrown out of the window). But having installed Israel in Ukraine, will be a game changer: nobody in Nato will ever provoque Russia via Ukraine again, knowing how fast they will retaliate back or transform european cities into "Gaza".
The job of Israel inside Ukraine is to contain Europe/Nato. This explains, why Russia is willing to pay a high price for this project. A price that will pay off in 20 years.
Remember, at the beginning of the war Russia was already in Kiev. The initial pace of the war was too fast. Then came in the Vatican and Naftali Bennet that pressured Russia to retreat (source: Viktor Lukashenko) and finally arrived Boris Johnson that stopped the agreements of Istambul. Have you ever questioned why this happened? Well, the reason is very simple: to provide a plan B to Israel, Ukraine had to be prepared accordingly. This was only possible via the SMO: a win win solution for Russia and Israel.
It’s a crazy world with the worst conceivable psychopaths in charge so you can’t rule anything out, but I find this mighty farfetched from beginning to end. I think GM’s explanation of motivations is much more compelling, but perhaps time will tell. I do think that any concentration of Jews at this point is bad for whoever is nearby, though.
What?! Russia, willingly rent the spare room in their house to a known scheming Zionist ax murderer?!
As much as I respect Putin, who I can conceive as actually considering such an idea (for a day), there are far too many in government and military circles who would veto that immediately.
Your mythical view of US capabilities underestimates two major factors geography and distance. They will lose the ability to launch strikes against Iran from their now former gulf bases. The biggest disadvantages of aircraft are airfields and range the US lost both advantages. Iran did not need to totally humiliate the US by becoming drawn into a devastating unnecessary conflict, which everything you stated that would satisfy your video game/Hollywood perspective of the world would accomplish.
The Iranians only needed to expose the fragility of the US paper economy; deligimise and discredit the US information infrastructure that promoted them as good, moral, ethical and trustworthy; Damage or destroy US bases in the region while taking control of the Straits of Hormuz so the US can never repair, resupply or rebuild efficiently or effectively; While at the same time destroy the myth of US military supremacy built over many years by Hollywood and the video game industry. All while avoiding a devastating war, that in my opinion is a greater achievement.
>They will lose the ability to launch strikes against Iran from their now former gulf bases.
But that's the thing -- they are not former bases. And will not be.
Did you look at the images released?
These are gigantic objects, Iran hit some buildings, but the only way to destroy the whole thing is firing hundreds of Shaheds at a time, which they never did, or nuking them, which they also neve did
>>So the bases are mostly still intact and active.<<
Really? Enlighten us about your source of knowledge. I doubt you've been there last week to take a look.
You always state things here as fact without ever providing some evidence or reliable foundations for your statements. Okay, sometimes you cite some obscure telegram channels that are debunked many times before.
Nuke, kill, destroy, bomb - that's always your single solution, sorry but it's getting boring a after a while.
You cannot destroy a base that is a square with a side of several kilometers by firing a few conventional drones and missiles at it. It's just not enough. Either you nuke, or you have to rain heavy bombs over it for a prolonged period of time. Iran did neither.
And if the bases were destroyed in March and abandonded, then why did Iran have to bomb them again in late May and early June?
What you say about the size of the bases is correct, brother, but the salient point is whether they can be manned and defended; they cannot. We started this conflict with radar and Reaper assets that took decades to assemble. The FPS 132, our key eyeball on Iranian launches, was taken out on February 28th. We would be looking at billions and years to rebuild our radars, even if Iran allowed it. Last week's destruction of the major AN installation at Jabal was just the period at the end of the sentence; Iran has run us off our near bases as easily as they controlled the strait. We are going to move out of range, just as the carriers have done, MoU or no. Either we were fed bad intel prior to launching this disaster, or the president chose to ignore it. All of our strategic assets in the region have been turned into liabilities.
It doesn't matter if the bases in the Gulf states are not fully destroyed, as having the bases on the soil of the gulf states made the state them selves targets. The US has demonstrated no capabilities to protect these bases muchless the countries that host them. So for the safety of these countries the US will be asked to not reoccupy the facilities. The bases are mostly abandoned and the Iranians will not allow the shipping through the Strats of Hormuz to repair or rebuild what was damaged or destroyed.
>The US has demonstrated no capabilities to protect these bases muchless the countries that host them.
And?
>So for the safety of these countries the US will be asked to not reoccupy the facilities.
1) Who is going to ask the US that?
2) The bases have not been abandoned, they are in active use right as we speak. Where did you get that absurd idea that the US is no longer there?
Finally, and most important, you have absolutely zero understanding of the relationship here. It is not about protection of the Gulf monarchies from Iranian attack, it is about protection from internal unrest. That is what they really fear. And that means that they will always be on the US's side by default -- the US is a rapacious predatory oligarchy, always has been, always will be, it is how it was conceived and created. The Gulf states are that too, even more so, thus they are natural allies.
The Shia, on the other hand, with their emphasis on asceticism and martyrdom, are a mortal threat, because they don't have money as the one and only goal in their lives, and that makes them an extreme danger to any oligarchy. They are in a sort of way the equivalent to communist Russia in the 20th century. It is also why they resist so effectively -- the only Sunni to seriously fight back have been Hamas, and that is because they just have no choice when they have been under a campaign of physical extermination for decades. But everyone else in the resistance -- Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Iran -- are Shia, and the Alawites in Syria are a unique Shia branch too. These are people who will die for ideas and will shun material possession in the name of fighting and dying for a higher purpose.
But the United States, has been using precisely the decadence brought from greed to crush resistance to the oligarchic system, by removing the ideological basis for resistance, and the same has been done by the likes of the UAE and the other Gulf monarchies.
So the US not being able to protect them from missiles and drones will never change the relationship -- it runs much deeper -- and one has to be very naive to think that anything will change
P.S. This is also a major reason why Russia and the other Orthodox countries have to be crushed and permanently destroyed -- Orthodox Christianty has many of the same characteristics. It's far from the only reason, but it's a major one.
Bullshit. Without the radars and Patriots and other critical equipment (that Iran destroyed) they are sitting ducks. They are history.
And as for your glib comment that Iran "hit some buildings" that's typical deflecting tactic. It is what was in and/or under the buildings that is important.
All your argumentation is always the same; the glorious, mighty USA plus it's allies is unharmed, they know what they're doing and winning.
All the countries that dare to resist the empire are morons, know little or nothing about how to fight the enemy and must, according to you, bomb, nuke, kill and deter the USA with all the barbaric steps that only the Epstein/Zionist class is willing to take.
Make this shit make sense!
If you do exactly what the enemy does, you become the very enemy you fight yourself.
Why is the USA declining? Why is their soft power dwindling? Why do people look to China these days instead to the USA? Why is the willingness to resist the empire growing?
Because China builds and keeps its word. The USA bombs, lies and deceives; and it's for everyone to see.
>All the countries that dare to resist the empire are morons
Not morons, compromised
And not all
But the big two are, and this is the core of the problem. If Russia and China had formed a proper defensive alliance with Iran and NK with the goal of evicting the US from Eurasia, we would be in a very different world
I think GM has a point, and I disagree with your statement that "If you do exactly what the enemy does, you become the very enemy you fight yourself."
People of different races/religions/cultures will never be the same, even if they utilize the same technology, weapons, and tactics. The West has, for the past 500 years, been at the forefront of technology and tactics, which allowed them to conquer/colonize/subordinate much of the rest of the world, even while the rest of the world possessed far greater populations and resources.
So if the rest of the world could utilize Western technology & tactics, etc. to fight back, they could actually win and push the West out of parts of the world such as the middle east and east Asia. For example, Japan in the 1860s went through a phase where some people like GM wanted to adopt Western t&t to compete with the West, and the pro-emulation faction won, and campaigned successfully until 1941 when they hit a wall because of resource limitations, yet they were always distinctly different from Western nations such as Britain and France because of racial, religious, and cultural differences.
>>You don't need ABM radars for offensive operations, how hard is that to understand?<<
You don't? Well you certainly need them for the types of offensive operations that the US *prefers* to conduct. Instead, now they're forced to use bases as far away as Diego Garcia and Cyprus. With missile stockpiles running low, not having OTH radar or the ability to sufficiently man and staff the bases nearer to Iran, the US has lost its ability to conduct the majority of effective military operations against Iran. There's a good reason the US was relying so heavily on AWACS radar in the weaning weeks of the last round of the terrorist war on Iran. And how many of those planes were damaged or crashed? They take even longer to rebuild than the OTH radar systems.
Ah I see our resident flat earther has decided to chime in.
I'm waiting for those apology forms (in triplicate) btw. They are long overdue. Its a good chance to practice your literacy too. Lordy knows the school system failed with your flat earth shenanigans.
Good point! Israel could not handle normal civilian flight operations because the US air-tanker fleet was blocking halve of the Ben Gurion airport. The situation in Jordans airports was cramped at least. Perfect targets for a lone ballistic missile. And next time Iran might strike at Diego Garcia, then there is no reloading of ships and no base for long range bombers anywhere near.
I could not agree more. This is a geopolitical earthquake. The Empire can spin it whichever way they like - they lost huge. There are always those on these threads that speak of US Empire power in hushed, awed tones. Bullshit - Empire has been exposed by a medium rank but well armed power with admittedly some lucky geography. The idea that this over the hill, aging, punch-drunk heavyweight could take on either Russia or China (let alone both together), is beyond risible. It’s over, and when historians write about US Empire collapse in 200 years, they will identify March-June 2026 as the key period that set the demise in reinforced concrete. The only job now, for the non-Empire world, is to skilfully get the heavyweight safely out of the ring, before he hurts and embarrasses himself some more.
The Israelis and Americans are just building secret bases where ever they please unchallenged. In Iran, in Iraq, heck I wouldn't be surprised if Armenia and Azerbaijan had a few outposts with aid from the military. Posters here think in 2 dimensions. "Radar dead = base useless" really? As long as those places reduce the logistical tail of any operation in the region they are actually quite useful in the vast no-mans land desert.
With the same new Starlink and AI guided drones that have been taking out Russian Iskander and Bastion TELs in Crimea, Kursk, Bryansk, Rostov, Krasnodar, etc.
Don’t you read Simplicius’ other reports? These attacks on Russia are having very a minor impact. Certainly not game changing. And as other have commented, The US has neither the personnel nor tools with which to restock.
i'm not gonna respond to you anymore - you're a lunatic
iran did not hit israel with a "small nuke" at any point...the things you believe are simply absurd and there is little point in trying to correct your understanding
SL can be jammed over wide areas as can EVEN MILITARY GPS. Yes jammers will need to be everywhere important
As usual you are dead right. If Iran allegedly knows that this existencial battle is not over, merely paused, why didnt they take out more of Israel then?
Iran had real military-technical problems during the most recent war. They were being suppressed and were not hitting what they had to at the needed rate.
It was even semi-officially half-acknowledged.
The hope is that the IRGC really needed the break and will use it better than the US.
They did use the previous one very well -- notice how almost nothing of value got taken out from on the ground in Iran the way that happened a year ago. Because measures were taken. But taking measures to protect against the threat from the most recent war does not necessarily prepare you for the next one. We shall see.
If they don't officially have ICBMs with nukes on them within six months, they are complete idiots.
The mere possibility of Iran making nukes has been around for 40 years.
Israel will nuke Iran the same second they screw together a warhead.
And I agree, Iran was really hurt by all those attacks. No AD to talk about and forced to hide in tunnels. The 12-day War was more efficient with real targets hit in Israel.
They knew what happened in Fordow and Natanz, they even had people placing virus into their networks. They control all the cameras, mobile-phones there is in Iran. Or claim they do. They know.
Exactly as Ukrainian know of every Russian assets they bomb (and even film it on location when destruction strikes).
Netanyahu claimed that he is the new Djinghis Khan. I believe him.
IRGC has eliminated the Mossad infiltration. The info for targets provided by the IAEA is gone, no more inspections. The Iranians are not going to let them rebuild that capability again... Chip
Nah. They definitely won't be using nukes on Iran any time soon. Not as part of *this* war (presuming it can be differentiated from the long and continuing war on Iran dating to the 80s). Would they try a "suitcase" or tactical nuke? Maybe on a remote Iranian nuclear or weapons site? Who knows. But I doubt it if they haven't already.
Now, supposing Isn'tReal is on the verge of succumbing to a massive future Iranian ballistic missile wave....would some psycho (aren't they all) Isn'tReally decide to invoke the Samson Option? Perhaps.
I dont think its possible to replace them with anyone approaching their level of toxic blustering ignorance, qualities combined with a truly impressive degree of unearned self belief. If uve been promoted light years beyond ur abilities, then ffs absorb briefs and listen to unbiased, unvarnished advice by ur brains trust.
Theres only 1 Trump and one Hegseth. And if like Iran ur staring at the end game re decades of imperial attacks and poverty levied by a genocidal terrorist and a psychotic war machine, then u want Team Trump and Pirate Pete at the helm barking orders surely?
1) Because they deserve it. Well, they deserve much worse than that -- being blown up is too quick and easy a death for these scumbsgs. Which is why one would best do it wih an FPV drone with a relatively small charge to the stomach, so that they bleed out with their guts spilled on the ground while still somewhat conscious. But these are also highly protected targets, so you can't be picky about the ways
2) Because as of now it has been conclusively demonstrated that the US and Israel can kill whoever they want in Iran and there will be no meaningful cost imposed on the people in the US and Israel who order it.
That equation must change for Iran to survive.
And the only way for it to change is for the people who matter in the US and Iran to start dying.
Yes, you can argue that Trump himself does not matter much. I do not disagree, but symbolically it is important. And then you go after the people who do matter, who are also softer targets. The billionaires that is.
Yachts, for example, are such a great point of vulnerability for a state actor to exploit.
Then once costs have been imposed the next time a US president starts thinking about assassinating the ayatollah he will think twice. Right now that is not the case
I may be wrong. I've never been to Iran and don't even know any Iranians. But it seems they, as a people, function at a higher level than to debase themselves with the methods you prescribe. It may be that they really would prefer martyrdom over compromising their souls by mimicking the behaviors of the synagogue of Satan.
This may be one of those don't end up becoming what you say you oppose type situations.
"Because as of now it has been conclusively demonstrated that the US and Israel can kill whoever they want in Iran and there will be no meaningful cost imposed on the people in the US and Israel who order it.
Yeah, yeah, 🥱 US is just soooooo powerful. Iran is soooooo scared. China and Russia are quaking in their boots at the simply awesome display of Empire power. 😂 Did the US achieve any of its war aims?……Even a single one? How is the atmosphere today in the the madhouse that is the Us’s deranged welfare queen? 😂
Sinking a single ship would have greenlight the US to use nukes.
Regarding Russia: they are doing enough, to grinder ukraine soldiers and the european economy.
Both (Iran and Russia) have similar objectives (freedom and security) they reach using different approaches.
Take out people (following your suggestion) is absurd, because Trump & co are puppets/actors following a script, written by strategists decades ago. The same is valid in Europe for people like Merz, Starmer or Van der Leyen. All this people must do and say, what they do and say! If you really want to take out someone, then follow the line of who wrote this scripts for whom. As soon as you get to the "whom", you will find out that they sit in the same boat, playing with all involved war-parties (Iran, Russia, Europe and so on).
Therefore my question: what should a wise leader do for his country, knowing who is behind this conflicts? I personally think that both Iran and Russia are acting very wisely. But degustibus non est disputandum.
The military budget of the US is 10 times the one of Russia. And Russia produces 7 times more arsenal than US and Nato combined.
China is producing fantastic products that cost 6 to 10 times less than in US or Europe.
If you divide the numbers of STEM students by the population you get:
Russia: 0,0038
China: 0,0036
USA: 0,0014
The above examples and numbers tell you a simple story: both USA and Europe are crashing.
If you understand this numbers and examples, then it becomes clear, that a "tit for tat" approach in such a context is simply wrong. Why? Because it implicates unnecessary risks. It's therefore much better to deescalate and "do nothing". Because the more time passes the faster the decline of tour adversaries.
>The above examples and numbers tell you a simple story: both USA and Europe crashing.
1) How is that going to stop the drones and missiles from flying into Russia and destroying it?
2) The USA and Europe crashing is precisely the reason for the war -- they need to loot Russia to buy themselves some more time. Them crashing harder would only make them more desperate and emboldened. Thus not fighting back is not an option -- time is not on Russia's side.
First of all the reportage on US casualties, including damaged or destroyed ships, planes, etc. has been subject to incredible levels of censorship. For example, at one point several of the regional TG channels reported a sunk US "frigate" but nothing ever got printed in the US MSM or even standard alternative media. Who's to say Iran didn't severely damage one or more US ships?
P.S. without torpedo boats or submarines, it's not easy to sink a ship. Even mine damage can be limped past back to port. If you think Iran was going to waste a surface to surface ballistic missile in an attempt to hit a US carrier and in light of the other goings on, I don't know what to tell you.
The declaration “go after soft targets such as the Jewish billionaires in their mansions and yachts. Lots of ways to do that” should get more currency on social nets.
The supremacist Jewish lunatics, profiteering on wars in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, deserve special attention from humanity. Jewish billionaires living in US have been providing a massive AI assistance to the Zionist state, up to targeting medics and journalists. And yet the Jewish billionaires like Brin go hysterical when identified as direct participants in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
The profitable Shoah-biz has removed any vestiges of decency from the majority of global Jewry.
I would agree that the MoU is not going to be honored by either the USA or Israel and that the alleged split is just performative. We will see the restart of the hostilities very soon during the next maybe two years, probably via a different vector, possibly Armenia and/or Azerbaijan and the Kurds.
I equally find it frustrating and sometimes incomprehensible that Russia, Iran and China as well never go for the 'kill' regardless how advantageous their position seems to be, but maybe we should start to acknowledge that their commitment to their people, humanity and peace is not just mere lip-service, but that maybe they are genuinely trying to avoid having to fight a nuclear global war...?
Nonetheless I believe, that the USA and Israel especially suffered a devastating defeat at the hands of Iran and I truly hope the IR is going to use its newly won leverage wisely and to the maximum benefit of the Iranian, Lebanese and Palestinian people!
I am not saying I fully understand or agree with every approach of the Russian government, BUT:
Whats the alternative? Russia could try to occupy the whole of Ukraine and live with a festering wound of terrorism and guerilla warfare in its underbelly, it could try to take on NATO frontally and risk WWIII and nuclear Armageddon or it acknowledges the political, economical and military realities and proceeds to bleed Ukraine and the western auxiliary forces try and empties their arsenals until the global and geopolitical circumstances are changing. There is no golden trophy to be won and no easy way out, Putin knew why he tried 8 long years to avoid being dragged into the Ukraine...and there is a reason for the slomo approach of Russia, there is just no realistic endgame yet and this is the cleanest and most controllable option after not having any war at all.
And Putin learned his ML, he knows that there is no way imperialism is coming to its senses and walking away for the good of humanity, that is just not how it works...
>Russia could try to occupy the whole of Ukraine and live with a festering wound of terrorism and guerilla warfare in its underbelly
1) So missiles and drones flying in ever increasing quantities in perpetuitiy is better?
2) It doesn't have to live with a festering wound. It's all dependent on the Kremlin's resolve to cleanse the territory of Banderites. Back in the 1940s Stalin couldn't do it because it was hard to know who was a Banderite in a pre-digital world. Pre-analog even. Not the case now when we have total surveillance.
>it could try to take on NATO frontally and risk WWIII and nuclear Armageddon
So NATO can just bomb Russia freely and Russia should just take it? Do I understand you? Because that is what's happening now.
>or it acknowledges the political, economical and military realities and proceeds to bleed Ukraine and the western auxiliary forces try and empties their arsenals until the global and geopolitical circumstances are changing.
Acknowledging the realities would mean recognizing that the only one getting bled here is Russia.
Sorry, I tried to answer in earnest and I think my points are not completely invalid or unfounded. The times where a country the size of Ukraine can be seized, occupied and pacified by military means are long gone and thinking otherwise is just ahistorical and delusional. Whining and battlecries are not very covincing arguments, I told you what my take on Putins motivations and assessments is, and I would appreciate if you would at least try to reply to them with the air of sincerity... that does not take away from the fact that war is ugly and people dying is horrible, but that actually rather underscores my position than yours.
>The times where a country the size of Ukraine can be seized, occupied and pacified by military means are long gone and thinking otherwise is just ahistorical and delusional.
Yes, of course, it can be occupied.
The US occupied an even bigger country (Venezuela is 1.5x Ukraine's size) in just a couple hours.
It's a matter of political will.
But in the current Kremlin there is very strong political will **not to win** the war, because it would be bad for the real masters of Putin.
>I told you what my take on Putins motivations and assessments is, and I would appreciate if you would at least try to reply to them with the air of sincerity
Putin's real motivations:
1) Protect the oligarchic socio-economic model put in place by Yeltsin. It's what Putin was installed in power to do, and what he has been doing for a quarter century. At all costs, up to and including the destruction of Russia.
2) Protect Israel. Because the bulk of the oligarch who are Putin's employers are Jewish. Again, at all costs, up to and including the destruction of Russia.
3) Within those constraints, try to get a better deal from the West on the neocolonial arrangement. A better deal for the oligarchs, that is, not for the Russian people. But only within those constraints.
4) If needed, give it all away, as long as the oligarchy maintains its positions. Because for the oligarchy, which has no allegiance to Russia, it is better to own something while being subservient to the West than to lose everything while trying to fight it.
5) No amount of humiliation, slaughter of civilians, destruction, etc. should deviate the Kremlin's policies from the goals outlined above.
If the way the SMO is conducted makes no sense to you, it is because you hold fundamental assumptions about Putin's loyalties and goals that run counter to the above.
And vice versa -- the way the SMO is conducted makes perfect sense once you understand it.
If yes, in short: I did not. My first post referred to the MoU and the Iran-question primarily. I then only replied to the points GM made about Russia...
If you are holding the opinion one could separate the Iran-theater from Russia-Ukraine or China-Taiwan or Israel or Venezuela etc. you are very mistaken in my regard, we are witnessing the end game of the US-Empire all over the globe and - hopefully -imperialism as a whole, everything is connected and Russia-Ukraine just the most matured and advanced of all those hotspots, so it naturally comes up often in such discussions.
"We will see the restart of the hostilities very soon..."
We'll be lucky if we ever see an end and any need to "restart." Israel hasn't even slowed down, and now Trump is suggesting Syria should invade Lebanon, too...
I think of Lebanon as the Iranian front, since they so particularly made it a condition of peace. And that has not quieted down at all. I don’t know if any Iranians are currently being murdered, but probably.
Everything will be dependent on Iran's determination to enforce the MoU.
There are two likely scenarios:
-Either the MoU ties Irans hands, breaks its momentum, introduces division in its leadership and enables Israel to have slowburning campaigns of murder and conquest (I guess this is the calculus of USrael, analogous to Gaza and Westbank).
-Or the MoU ties the hands of the USA in its overt support of Israel and enables Iran to isolate the Israel-problem from the GCC and the USA and to concentrate its firepower and leverage on the zionist entity.
I think it is solely down to the readiness of Iran to test the US' commitment to the treaty by punishing Israel for every violation and retaliating full force. Given the broad domestic opposition to this war, the political cycle and the depletion of its military I would assume there is a good chance the US-Administration would keep its feet still or even exert pressure on Israel, but I am not very optimistic when it comes to the Iranian leadership, which has unfortunately shown no cohesion and no will to fully use the means at his disposal.
What about a third possibility? The US continues the charade of criticizing Israel, Israel continues murdering people all over the world with US weapons, and Iran does whatever it does. With the US pretending to be out, Iran is unlikely to hit gulf states, and it has been reluctant, since early in the war, to hit Israel. If they want to survive they’re going to have to, imo, but who knows what they’ll do.
they have no chance in a ground op in Iran...too far and too much firepower.
the US/Israel hope in that case was to neuter the ballistic missile capability and that did not happen. The munitions are now expended....US stocks are critically low and I don't expect Israel's munitions supply to be that deep now either
Die USA erhalten sechs Monate Zeit zur Umstrukturierung und werden den Krieg nach den Zwischenwahlen wieder aufnehmen. In der Zwischenzeit perfektionieren sie bereits die Jagdtechniken auf russischen Raketenabwehrsystemen mithilfe von Starlink und Kamikaze-Drohnen.
Zitat Ende
Du nennst die Zeit den entscheidenden Vorteil für die USA und Israel...Zeit um Waffentechniken zu finden z.B gegen Drohnen nennst als Vorteil „Starlink“ und bringt Beispiele der Russen.
Was Du vergisst ist der Faktor ZEIT für beide Seiten gilt auch für Verbündete des Irans wie China oder Russland z.B Starlink...eigentlich haben auch China und Russland bis Stand Juli bereits über 460 Satelitten ins All gebracht...natürlich ohne die Show wie im Westen üblich...wobei das System der Russen etwas anders funktionieren wird als Starlink das übrigens einen gewaltigen Nachteil hat, NEIN ZWEI..einer davon muss immer Gewinn einbringen, der zweite...denn Manöver der Navigation der Satelliten sind Grenzen gesetzt nicht alles funktioniert bei diesem mit Sonnenenergie...wobei ein "Husten" der Sonnen allen Starlink mindest aber 85 % davon eh ein Ende setzen würde...was früher oder später zu 100 % passieren wird.
Wie gesagt ZEIT arbeitet für beide Seiten und bis jetzt zumindest die letzten 30 Jahre hat diese Russland und China besser genutzt....auch weil SIE bei ihren Entwicklungen KEINE DIVIDENDE einfahren müssen...im sogenannten Westen wird NICHTS entwickelt NICHTS erforscht was absehbar erstmal keinen Gewinn für einbringt ...
In Russland und China wird Befohlen BESSER ZU SEIN ALS DER GEGNER ...wer hat wohl mehr erfolg....ala Hyberschall ?
I believe you will be proven right. If the pause even lasts to the midterms, which I doubt because Israel is hardly even slowing down. There will be no peace until it is gone.
That was 13th of June and since then many have talk to the protesters to prevent such things from happening and it has been largely successful.
This is an excuse. They started demanding the end to the demonstrations during the war itself! What was their excuse back then? There's a pattern of decisions that clearly shows what agenda they're following!
What the heck would be a "return to normalcy?" Israel is already demonstrating what it considers normal, since it hasn't even slowed down its various genocides, and the US is showing the same by continuing to supply the weapons that are killing everybody. Yet THIS was the historic defeat of the empire???
No, but to be fair, I wouldn’t. I’m not there, and there’s never any telling where resistance is coming from anymore anyway, with spies everywhere.
Resistance has a very fine line to tread, be it in Russia or Iran. On one hand, the actual devil is behind some of the resistance, on the other hand it's probably behind some of the establishment, too. The enemy is wily, persistent, well-resourced, and heartless. The constant celebration here of meaningless events is maddening.
You do realize that you touched on a very good reason that the Iranians might want to minimize the street "protests" or celebrations in your own comment, right? These gatherings give cover to the exact same Mossad/CIA/etc. elements that were utilized in January. The Iranian government wants "normalcy" because it gives them less to be vigilant about on their own streets and squares while they are dealing with an external possibly existential threat. It also means people return to work and the economy recovers from the effects of sanctions and war more quickly.
Russia has won with Ukraine and NATO already before Trump came to power. What is left for Trump is to negotiate peace deal, so economic relations through Bering Strait, possible with underwater tunnel, can develop.
Trump already gave to Russia Ukraine and East Baltics. Also the other East Flank countries are under question, depending how local population will act against influx of Ukrainians into their territories.
There are thousands religions. There are no false or true prophets.
The wold is becoming secular, agnostic, that includes Iran.
Besides, Jewish population in Iran is deep rooted and strong. They live there peacefully for thousands years. They have all liberties and support Iran state.
Israel can't stand this example and bombed historic Tehran synagogue in April.
"The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations program and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing."
Get rich, or die trying.
"41 G7 energy billionaires have increased their wealth by $23.5 billion since the unlawful US and Israel war against Iran began, reveals new Oxfam analysis published ahead of the G7 summit in Evian, France. This is equivalent to about $1,000 in the time it takes to blink."
The majority of people in Germany appear exhausted and resigned, as if by the ongoing state of emergency and the multiple crises. In the tragedy of "King Lear", William Shakespeare has his character the Earl of Gloucester say: “Such is the curse of the times, when fools lead the blind...I stumbled when I saw." Yet those who do not stand up to the warmongers end up on the front lines.
I live in Canada and despite our Prime Minister's best effort at inpiring speeches, his call to build a stronger military has gotten a public response as potent as a limp penis. I'm wondering if we have enough blue collar workers left to build battlefield safe spaces where soldiers can hug each other for support because a sergeant yelled at them.
Yes, in this illegal war the USA and Israel murdered thousands civilians and destroyed 20 000 civilian infrastructure, including 17 000 homes.
Yet Iran won this part of war. The majority of world, including the majority of American population, do support them. That support can only grow, as more are aware who Iranians and who American/Israelis are.
More war is coming shortly and it will last in intervals for another 18 months. With 10 000 times more murdered civilians with nuclear bombs, famine and disease and half country flatten to stone age. That is 15 000 000 murdered or 16% of population.
Yet Iran will win again. Use of nuclear bombs on Iran will mobilise China, Russia, Pakistan and the BRIKS to give full, unconditional support to Iran economically and militarily.
For the last 49 years they have dig up underground the whole critical infrastructure. They have learned to save their civilisation underground for the last 2000 years.
Read about Iran't cultural heritage.
"Concept of Underground City
An underground city is a series of linked subterranean spaces that may provide a defensive refuge; a place for living, working or shopping; a transit system; mausolea; wine or storage cellars; cisterns or drainage channels; all or several of these.
It's fascinating--and beyond tragic for all involved--to watch the Israelis engineer their own destruction. They have been paranoid about their neighbors since Israel's founding, but until the recent Gaza genocide, they have been very successful in managing the world's perception of Israel and the plight of the Palestinians. But Gaza ripped off the mask for all to see: Israel is a murderous, blood thirsty, genocidal, psychotic society. That progression from paranoia to full blown "WE MUST KILL THEM ALL and we don't care if the whole world sees it" is what will end this Jewish state. And it's right on schedule according to Ron Unz who pointed out that no Jewish state has lasted more than 80 years. In 2028 it will have been 80 years since the founding of Israel in 1948.
Sorry, what did you expect? Russia has faced down Europe, Ukraine and NATO arms, but was a Great Power until recently. Iran all alone faced down the USA, the Global Hegemon, and its monstrously armed Little Satan Israel, along with many if not most of its neighbours - none of which had been under crippling sanctions for decades, and had spent $tns on imported weapons systems during that time.
This may not have been cowboys and indians at scale, but when the side that spent <10% of its attackers military budget wins, no-one truly expects there isn't going to be a hell of a lot of civilian bloodshed along the way by the Empire.
So you are asking too much. Of course, you could be reacting to the almost callous nature of the author's glee at this Imperial loss.
Do those girl's parents think "They won"? No-one who loses anyone in a war thinks that is winning (Well, being realistic, some will ofc), but they can separate the personal loss from the national victory. against a foe that wanted to bomb the country back to the stone age, split it up into racial cantons, and create a bloody civil war between them to tear the civilisation to pieces. Their daughters were unlikely to survive, or to want to see such a future. How would YOU feel if your home was under such a threat?
"The Iran conflict was not a war, but a US-Israeli bombing and drones SMO."
It wasn't an SMO, because it was not defined as such legally before the action. It was an undeclared, full scale war against what was expected to be a defenseless country, and the rape was foiled by the unexpected strength and will of the defenders. It was a war - and will probably be a war again.
I hope the Iranian govt is building deep shelters for the population too. And ones with biological warfare sensors too.
Historical Collapse: Since the early 2010s, and accelerating after 2018 sanctions, the Rial has lost over 95% of its value against the US Dollar in real terms, though exact figures vary by the specific timeframe and official vs. parallel market rates.
Common knowledge, grr.
You can't change facts with obfuscations, grr.
The rial is only worth 5% of its value from 15 yrs ago.
Those within the USA have seen their dollars lose a bit more than that (iirc) in purchasing power since the inception in 1913 of the ill-named "Fed" (Federal Reserve System, the privately held central bank). Privately held central banks are the true enemy of all humankind, but far too many humans (if indeed politicians are human) are only too pleased to be purchased by the financial overlords who have their boots on the faces of all who fall prey to the lure of consumerism and those of us who, greatly outnumbered, would prefer to be left alone and live a simple life with the possibility of obtaining the bare necessities, something which in a just society would be possible without greatly inconveniencing our consumerist brethren.
Sovereignty, individual and societal, depends upon self-sufficiency, thus autarky should be the desired societal outcome. Exchange rates would then be beyond manipulation by the money-mad overlords whose principal product is human misery.
And the US hasn't been under decades of illegal sanctions. It shits me when ignorant people criticise (and gloat) Venezuala, Cuba, Iran, etc having tanked economies without naming the reason. And that is US embargoes, sanctions, sabotage; economic terrorism.
Zerohedge is a CIA cover and imperial mouthpiece camouflaged as 'critical'.
To cite the imperialist to make your point is an oxymoron.
By the way, China reduced their import to zero to stabilize the oil price for a while. Now Iranian tankers will resume delivery to China and other friendly countries and get paid one way or the other to compensate their losses. Plus there is the BRICS-Bank to help with many financial matters and Nabulina (head of the Russian central Bank) is meeting the minister of finance of Iran next week. I assume they're not talking about the weather.
Here are some Iranian losses which you deny of course.
I guess I made that up, too. 😂Iran's military losses during the 2026 conflict (Operation Epic Fury), which began in late February, are significant but vary widely depending on the source, with figures often disputed between Iranian state media, Western intelligence, and independent monitors.
Personnel Losses
Military Killed in Action (KIA): Estimates range from 1,800 to 7,650 personnel. Iranian state media (IRNA) has reported lower figures around 1,800 "martyrs," while Israeli intelligence estimates range from 3,000 to over 7,000, including both IRGC and regular army (Artesh) members
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Senior Command: Iran suffered a decapitation of its high command. At least 48 to 52 senior officials and commanders were killed, including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei (killed in opening strikes on Feb 28), IRGC Commander-in-Chief Hossein Salami, Armed Forces Chief of Staff Mohammad Bagheri, and the heads of the IRGC Navy and Aerospace forces
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Wounded: Estimates for Iranian military wounded range from 4,200 to 15,000, though precise numbers are difficult to verify due to access restrictions
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Naval Losses Iran's navy, particularly the IRGC Navy (IRGCN), which relies on asymmetric warfare tactics, took heavy hits in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz.
Vessels Destroyed/Damaged: Approximately 14 naval vessels were reported lost or destroyed, including:
1 Kilo-class submarine: Reportedly damaged during US/Israeli strikes
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Frigates: The frigate Jamaran was struck on March 9, suffering significant damage and crew losses
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Fast Attack Craft: The IRGCN lost numerous fast-attack boats and patrol vessels. On May 4, the US CENTCOM reported sinking 6 to 7 IRGC small boats during an attempt to interfere with a US escort mission in the Strait of Hormuz
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Strategic Impact: The IRGC Navy's ability to project power was severely degraded, leading to a temporary closure of the Strait of Hormuz in June before a tentative agreement to reopen it
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Other Military Equipment Losses Beyond personnel and naval assets, Iran lost a substantial portion of its air defense and air power:
Combat Aircraft: Approximately 18 combat aircraft (including F-4s, F-14s, and Su-24s) were destroyed, largely on the ground at airbases like Hamadan and Bandar Abbas
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Air Defense Systems: Satellite imagery and intelligence assessments confirm the destruction of at least 22 air defense systems, including Bavar-373 and S-300 batteries
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Missile Launchers: An estimated 60 ballistic and cruise missile transporter-erector-launchers (TELs) were destroyed by coalition strikes
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Context of the Conflict These losses occurred during a 3.5-month conflict that saw direct strikes on Iranian soil, missile exchanges with Israel, and a US naval blockade. The conflict effectively ended with a tentative agreement reached on June 14, 2026, which called for a ceasefire and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, though diverging interpretations of the deal's terms remain
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4. The war also resulted in significant civilian casualties, with over 3,700 Lebanese civilians and an estimated 1,700 to 3,600 Iranian civilians killed
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Note: Casualty figures in active conflicts are often contested, with state actors having incentives to minimize their own losses and maximize enemy casualties. The figures above represent the low-to-high ranges provided by independent trackers and government sources as of mid-June 2026.
It's a very serious, extremely mature country, that hasn't had the maneuverability to have incompetent leadership since its founding.
That doesn't mean the leadership is NICE - you have only to encounter the dreaded 'religious police' to know that.
But it's an astounding, amazing country, the most civilised place I've ever been to (And I've done my fair share of traveling), and if you ever get the chance to - go and visit.
Just, for the Love of Allah, respect their customs if you go. For your own sake.
I lived in a Muslim country for a few years and was shocked by the disrespect displayed by fellow foreigners, particularly with respect to Ramadan, which in my first year took place in high summer, when they would smugly eat, drink and smoke in front of host country nationals. I was often ridiculed for respecting the abstention, at least in public. My Muslim colleague with whom I shared an office almost certainly knew that my frequent trips to the bathroom had less to do with liquid expulsion than with sneaking drinks of water, but when I left that job to take advantage of a better opportunity, he told me that I was the only one of the crew he and his native colleagues liked or respected and that they had planned a farewell party for me at which their non-alcohol-imbibing custom would be suspended in my honor. Like you, I've done my fair share of traveling (in fact, I'm an expat) and found "my" Muslim country very civilized indeed. I still have friends there after more than forty years.
I followed ramadan out there as well - not as religiously of course, but out of politeness. Also got up for the morning prayers when with host families.
It's not a religion for me - I'm FAAR too liberal-minded and inquisitive/critical, and that doesn't sit well on any Abrahamic cult, but more than any of the Xian shit, Islam actually makes sense, and doesn't have the innate racism of Judaism.
It's strange, there are Westerners who easily fit into other cultures, and there are Westerners who cannot.. though the same is true of every culture and place in the World. Many migrants want to assimilate, others to keep their own culture.
Traveling opens many minds. Not the kind of 'Southern Spain' traveling, obviously.
It's well worth it grr, just don't... transgress. The state doesn't piss around, and it's one of the very few places that "Being a Westerner" doesn't mean kid gloves.
And they have strange rules. No chess, no playing cards, no non-Muslim touching a Muslim woman - not even on the hand.
If you're a couple, either get married or sleep separately.
I'll tell you this though, if it wasn't for those rules - especially for the non-touching >_< lmao - I'd have been trying to live there since I visited.
It's just... beautiful. And the people - WOW! It's not just the women are smoking hot Bene Gesserit reverend mothers (What they wear, lol), the guys are... nice too! No tourists, I guess.
I think Iran is rapidly changing, with departure of Hamenei. And before.
There were protests against hidjab, but also against ayatollahs and religious rules.
There would be generational change, the present elites are in their 60. After war populace always needs more freedoms for their sacrifice and hardship during war.
I would expect Chinese and Russian businesses moving into Iran after war. And Iranians expanding international trade as sanctions are lifted.
And Iran possibly becoming tourist destination if not after war radioactivity.
I once had a mate just like you. Nice enough bloke, meant well, but thick as a brick. Couldn't apply logic, and pulled silly arguments out of his arse all the time.
Impossible to have a serious conversation with. Lost in his own world of warped thinking.
All I was saying is that both sides experienced losses, which you interpret as you can only talk about US losses or your feelings get hurt, and you resort to obfuscating gobbledygook. hahaha
I think people are responding because you seem to be saying the win is pyrrhic. Now, if Iran had attacked first, that might be a valid argument. But when your country is attacked without warning by an aerial blitzkrieg, when there are massive assassination campaigns, and when tons of educational and medical buildings are deliberately targeted, OF COURSE the defending country is going to suffer heartbreaking losses.
Hundreds, or thousands were killed before the first Iranian retal was launched.
Their losses were unavoidable. If someone out of the blue walks up and punches you hard in the nose, breaking it, but then at the end of the resulting fight you are the only one standing - your nose is still broken, but you won the fight.
Are you in pain? Of course (Once the adrenalin wears off).
But you weren't the one that started the fight.
It's obv nice if someone is concerned over your bleeding nose and wounds, but that concern should not sound like it's taking away from your victory, when you are a quiet old small hermit and you were attacked by two well-known brutal MMA fighters - and you beat the living snot out of them.
Whether you win or lose a war is entirely dependent on your objectives in that war. USrael did not accomplish even on of their objectives - not one. Iran accomplished their one objective - to survive the onslaught.
A commonly overlooked fact. Iran has already replaced their losses in weaponry and even gained, so they have more now than they started with. USrael OTOH have decimated their supplies of standoff weaponry, the kind needed in this war, and it will likely take a decade if not more to replace them, IF they can even manage that.
The US is retreating to 'the old songs are the best songs' playbook of getting other parties- not real people- to fight and die for it. Bring on Syria and Al Jolani whose praises Trump has been heaping. Let him and his guys get stuck into Lebanon, Trump says, then Israel can back off out of it too.
These chaps are Sunni, Iran is Shi'ite, and so Trump hopes he can ignite some useful and profitable regional warfare displacing his ill starred intervention that was on the brink of turning everyone hostile to the US. The US can come back in for another go when Iran has had the edge buffed off it by native nutters. But the Arabs as well as the Persians have been on learning curve in this regard.......
Yeah, what a silly statement from Drumpf. AQ in Syria has fuck all military equipment left after the shitraelis destroyed it in the aftermath of Assad's ouster. Even if they wanted to be the attack dog they can not.
And Syria is not in any way a unified force, there being many competing factions, including a former military component that has remained hidden since being removed from power, but which is quietly working towards the right moment to cause trouble.
Sorry, no. I read something about it a while back which brought it mind, but I lost track of the source and haven't heard anything since. But at the time I was left with the distinct feeling that these people are communicating, organising and waiting for the right time to show themselves.
the Syria-Iraq border remains volatile: last month Iraqi armed factions aligned with Iran "...have expanded their daily attacks on military sites and what they say are US interests in Iraq and the region to include Syrian territory..." - https://www.newarab.com/news/pro-iran-iraqi-militias-expand-attacks-syria
There are hints from multiple leaks.. that the losses US suffered are much worse than what we've figured out here. Just no obvious official confirmation, except from their utimate behavior - giving in to Iran's conditions. Will US adhere to the MOU? Unlikely... there's still deluded chicken hawks and dumbass neocons galore in the US... but the more rational folks have tried their best to keep whatever's left of the empire together... internal fractious war to come - in the US.
No one wants the cease fire but Trump (he may not secretly want it either). The Iranian population want revenge. The Israeli Zionists both in Israel and the JUSA want the elimination of Iran. And the US Zionists, Christian Zionists, and the Lindsey Grahams and Mark Levin's ALL want the war to continue. So yes, it will continue after a short intermission... Chip
Yup.. and in the meantime, full-on financial markets manipulation continues.... they're so transparent that even brain dead folks everywhere else can see it now.
I have my life savings in Canadian oil and gas stocks. You'd think I must be making a killing. They are manipulating those stock prices too and all we have to show for our wise foresight, is chump change.
Yup.. all the western financial markets are under full manipulation. Back in the Asian crisis (1996), oil fell to a low of $9. I called every broker online and off, and no one would sell to me at that price. I said I could even arrange storage.. just give me whatever you can… no deal. Aka the price was totally fake. But it’s what being repeated in MSM to give the plebs as sense that things aren’t blowing up.
Heh.. thought that was obvious since 2008? Seriously... the US strategic reserves are still being drawn down like crazy - and that's the main push that made Trump TACO-ed again. Brent/Wti now? under $80. Yeah right... oil fromm Hormuz will not reach their western markets if they start flowing now for a few more weeks.. and it ain't moving yet.
Can't win militarily, so we'll give you money to build stuff, with as many strings attached as we think we can get away with, $300 Billion is a nice start...
What a complete dog's breakfast this is. Trump and Netanyahu are just evil clowns. How can we allow people like this into head of state positions?! All of this useless war and destruction, which is then followed by reconstruction and reparations? Do you see how utterly insane this is? We are on a hijacked train that is being controlled by criminal psychopaths, and we are speeding towards our own destruction. The lunatics have indeed taken over the insane asylum and all innocent citizens will be turned into collateral damage as the end result. Israel and the USA should both be OUT of the Middle East. They are the problem. There will never be any form of stability in the ME until these two monsters are GONE.
They should be ousted of the international community, declared pariah states, banned from UN, international trade and travel restrictions to their citizens. No one should welcome genocidal maniacs and their helpers anywhere in the world.
They're at least now getting slowly aware of that the USrael-company are the most hated nations on earth and seen as a danger to mankind in opposite to China, that enjoys increasing appreciation among common people around the world and even in Europe.
I read the article, it doesn't say he was denied a visa by USA. It DOES say there were ethics concerns over the cost of trip being donated by a wealthy Israeli and the state didn't want to pay for his security staff for a private trip just to attend his rich buddy's wedding in USA...
So Iran, who is resistant to being told how to do anything, needs longer range ASBMs an SAMs. Even though this is a huge victory for them, not obliterating the tanker fleets on the ground, allowing the accumulations, and allowing the blockade to happen without sinking a single warship or downing with their AA even 1 large bomber are huge negatives. The blockade would have been ineffectual if the USN was forced 2,000km away from the coast, and there would be flights over Iran at all if they had mobile SAMs with even a 150km range.
It is also odd to me that it seems like Iran's extensive inventory of ISRs drones and other advanced drones/cruise missiles did not seem to get used.
Maybe they are looking very long and are saving those for the final battle, but for the most part I doubt it.
The next time America and Israel begin a mass accumulation, the IRGC needs to actually do something instead of just mindlessly absorbing the damage when they literally do not have to.
the solution is for Erdogan to facilitate drone capabilities to come to Hezbollah from Iran for use against Israel. AFU has shown what is possible here.
EVERY SINGLE Israeli facility of any kind can be struck daily RIGHT NOW by hundreds of drones. Their vaunted airforce could be neutralized in one week by what AFU has right now.
And then you just stop and let the juze kvetch and fume and oy vey and tell some more holocaust yarns
Sure, and if Israel does indeed have the nuclear weapons they are thought to have, what happens then? Recall the Samson option was supposed to be if we are going down we will take everybody else with us.
they'll lose that ability before it would come to that.
they've already lost 60+% of the US public and can only rent politiicans
Doing that would put them where Medellin Cartel was after Pablo assassinated a presidential candidate...they'd become radioactive worldwide
Maybe so, but if they feel they are going down anyway it would be a big fuck you to their biggest adversary in the region. I don't understand how you say they lose that ability. If they have the weapons and want to use them I'm sure they can deliver them one way or another -- even if it is by driving a truck. They wouldn't win, and they wouldn't even take out most of the cities, but they could still cause immense destruction.
driving a truck? cmon now...this is movie stuff.
they could cause a lot of deaths sure, but not decisively....and that would presuppose that they are done. It'd be a last hurrah but Samson didn't get every enemy, just those in the hall.
the juze are certainly psychopathic enough to do such a thing; don't get me wrong. I'm certain if i did a bit of digging i would find that there are influential israeli commenters who've said both that israel should become a de jure nuclear weapons state and that they should use them on Iran.
as for justification for this, amalek or the holocaust or some shit...we all know that the iranians gassed 6 million of them or something.
Uh, we know the values of the frozen assets, and I don't know about you or your financial situation, but $200-300,000,000,000 would be personally appreciated, 30 years ago or now. I don't know the details, but as Russia's frozen assets are also increasing in value as the assets increase, it should be assumed the same can be true for Iran's.
Iran will need that money FOR reconstruction, the USrael wrought destruction across the country. And many buildings will have to be rebuilt stronger, and with new bomb shelters.
Along with the repayments of debts, very little will end up as Iranian gold bars in vaults, I expect.
Correct, the money isn't sitting idle.
That's what he wrote, near the end.
Comprehension of writing, it's a thing...
Fair enough.. I didn't read it. Just the opening lines made me worry I'd sever my optic nerve with the mother of all eye rolls. I deleted the comment.
Meantime at G7 in Paris are reading for another turn in Middle East. America needs European's troops on the ground to help Great Israel - so first in Turkey, later Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia. To control Hormuz and Suez.
"The contours of a deal, under which Trump supports Europe on the Ukraine issue in exchange for Europe's help in securing the Strait of Hormuz, are beginning to emerge," Politico writes.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/166804
From what I read, anything can change at Trump's will. As of tonight.
Tankers won't be moving for another 2-4 weeks, until they are sure everything is kosher. Too big risk.
Stage for the second part of war, far more dangerous and deadly, is already set up.
Natanyahu Gazzing Beirut again and Iran very strong retaliation.
Israeli attempt of very precise and powerful decapitation strikes on all Iranian leadership will be unsuccessful, as Iran has learned and moved to deep bunkers.
Israeli false flag nuclear contamination of it's own installations and asking the US Congress and UN for a war against Iran. That would be after the Football Cup ends, so around 24.07.
Israel false flag bombing nuclear Incirlik Air Base in Turkey in August. That would be the first step of aggression on Turkey, even as initially the US will send more troops there. And European NATO heavy armed contingents send to Turkey as Article 4 would be invoked.
Turkey will be forced to allow all this, even fully realising those are occupational forces in interest of Israel. But as this year end, they would have no other choice as to leave NATO alliance and go under Russian nuclear umbrella.
For a good measure Israel will also bomb nuclear airfield in Italy. And American naval and strategic bases in Greece, Romania. They need military panic also directly in Europe.
Meantime at G7 in Paris are reading for another turn in Middle East. America needs European's troops on the ground to help Great Israel - so first in Turkey, later Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia. To control Hormuz and Suez.
"The contours of a deal, under which Trump supports Europe on the Ukraine issue in exchange for Europe's help in securing the Strait of Hormuz, are beginning to emerge," Politico writes.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/166804
"Trump's will?" Is there such a thing nowadays? It's more like Trump's willy-nilly
Trump’s willy…
ROFLMAO !! He wants his virgins now. I'd love to be one of the priviledged MOSSAD agents that knows what's in the Trump-pornos.
Tankers are already moving
I read 3 Iranian tankers moved fast past American blockade. But international large shipping companies are hesitating for up to 4 weeks
yeah- cowards. Might be the british insurance companies again. they're bankers of another name - all zionists.
You have a wonderful imagination….😵💫
It's AI simulation for 3 WW.
You can read all since 2nd May under each free Simplicious articles. Usually they are at the very top of discussion, mostly the first comment. Here chronologically
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-moves-closer-to-final-blowout/comment/252431354
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/zelensky-claims-leaked-russian-intel/comment/259842721
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russian-svr-hints-strikes-on-nato/comment/261931736
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-cancels-last-minute-attack/comment/263147353
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russia-tells-western-diplomats-to/comment/265242651
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russian-officials-walk-back-threats/comment/266377539
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/european-wargames-bolster-wests-delusions/comment/268486621
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/us-wallows-in-stalemate-purgatory/comment/269684087
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/iran-establishes-escalation-dominance/comment/273064535
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russian-battle-tank-attrition-completely/comment/273666952
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russian-battle-tank-attrition-completely/comment/273663731
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-backs-down-again-after-blustery/comment/274840028
can't you just them all together and put them as a post on substack?
No, as that simulation develops constantly, those visions from end of April differ from those from end of June. Situation is dynamic, fluid.
I take also into consideration discussion under each post to refine, adjust projections
What is "black flag"?
A synonym for false flag. In my native language black flag is used so it's easier for me to use it in English. Now I have corrected.
Podium.
Trump would not start any military operations during the World Cup at his will. He needs all attention to USA. He asked Natanyahu not to attack during the Cup but Israel is making Beirut and Lebanon the second Gaza genocide.
In turn Iran will massively attack Israel, with Israel nuclear retaliation done through false flag operation. That retaliation will not be immediate - the Cup is ending on Sunday 19th July, so the following Sabat 24-25th July is likely the date.
They will blame Iran for that false flag to get Congress approval for formal war.
Trump will want it done fast, just in 3 days. Every day more deadly then the previous.
Second is a podium finish, as is third.
English, it's a language.
It's also a breed of bulldog. And a breakfast sausage.
and its a breed of extremely boorish people I can say that because I'm British ( bloodlines )
LOL Some of my ancestors were Poms, including my maternal grandmother.
I think you're british. No one else uses ' mate ' to refer to a friend.
So you are of the lineage of extreme cowards that throw their families at the feet of invaders because they cannot stand the fact of being called names by foreign entities? Yea, sounds about right.
and you are a keyboard warrior
It's nothing. We'll see the actual validity of the ceasefire after the Israelis ramp up their combat operations in defiance of it. That will be the true test of "tail wags dog" or vice versa.
Exactly. It doesnt matter that ”Trump was finally forced to blink when he realized that Iran wasn’t going to lose this game”. Its an existencial battle for Iran against Israel.
It seems I was right, Mickey. The Iranians hunkered down and outlasted the US. Such a strategic mistake that will haunt Trump long into the future.
We will see. Hopefully the World will see that Israel wants the War, not Iran, not US, not the World.
The World knows already. Only global Jewry still believes in its superior skill of canning.
"That will be the true test of "tail wags dog" or vice versa."
That test has already been exercised many times in the past. Bibi always wins.
That's my read as well. What Bibi wants, Bibi gets. Mossad must have truly outstanding Kompromat on American leadership.
Ther reality is a bit different.
1) None of the positive for Iran things in the MoU are firm guarantees with precises conditions and deadlines. And nobody has any intention to do those things anyway, they will remain empty promises
2) The US has not been physically removed from near Iran. Which was a mandatory outcome for Iran out of this war. But the bases are still there. They had to be pushed back at least 1500 km so that they cannot launch mass swarms of kamikaze drones the way they are doing to Russia now.
3) Zero deterrence has been imposed. Iran's leadership has been killed, Trump is alive, Hegseth is alive, Netanyahu is alive, etc. It was absolutely mandatory to take out Trump and Netanyahu at the very least to reimpose some deterrence. And to go after soft targets such as the Jewish billionaires in their mansions and yachts. Lots of ways to do that. But it wasn't done.
4) They didn't sink any US ships and thus neither the massacres of civilians such as Minab, nor the cowardly sinking of the Iranian ship near India, have been avenged.
5) Hit-and-run has in fact been normalized. Sure, Iran "responds", but not in a way that reenforces deterrence
6) The US is getting six months to retool and will resume the war after the midterms. Meanwhile it is already perfecting TEL hunting techniques in Russia through Starlink and kamikaze drones, i.e. next time it will not be relying on expensive MALE drones to do it and will suppress Iranian launches much more effectively.
MoU is just a starting point for negotiations.
"A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), also referred to as a Letter of Intent (LOI) or Letter of Agreement (LOA), is a formal yet non-binding agreement between two or more parties. It outlines present intentions, roles, and objectives, serving as a mutual acknowledgment of potential outcomes and processes."
The Iranians know a ceasefire is just a tool of war to rethink your last dumb move.
The US has become the thing most often portrayed in Hollywood as the most hated. A mean, aggressive and unthinking bully.
The memories of victims are very long. The world organizes itself in defence of civilians against the country overwhelming voted most dangerous.
The dangers sold to us by advertisers cross all boundaries. Enemies foreign and domestic holds the key. Oh name a foreign country we have not wanted to destroy, it's high time we start looking into domestic!
Iran might have the most "fell for it again" awards in history.
No, that 'honor' goes to Putin.
Putin didn't fall for anything, "fell for it" implies you sincerely believed
The Putin fanboys are the ones with the award
Sure, buddy. Say hello to your supervisor.
Putin is methodically demilitarizing and denazifying NATO.
Sure, buddy. And what exactly goes to you?
Iran has very tough choices. I think this one was a mistake, but they could have good reasons for it. Russia, on the other hand, is putting on a demo of how to fuck everything up. Or else the real goal is not what they say it is.
The "Israel"-project has come to its end, especially now with the raising of Iran as a new super power in the middle east.
Russia plays on 2 fronts:
1) it misuses Zelensky to destroy the european economy
2) and prepares Ukraine for the relocation of Israel, killing as much ukraine soldiers as possible
Russia obviously cannot discuss openly point 2). But that's the reason, why it acts in such a way.
Israel doesn’t seem to have gotten the memo on the Israel project, and whatever Russia is trying to do, they’re far too casual about Russians dying
The source of point 2) is Abramovich in persona. He mentioned this relocation in Istambul. Israel is therefore well informed. All details were discussed in an interview given by Pepe Escobar.
For Russia it's perhaps the best possible outcome, to implement a puffer-zone between the new oblasts and Europe. The implementation of such a zone is very cost intensiv (money thrown out of the window). But having installed Israel in Ukraine, will be a game changer: nobody in Nato will ever provoque Russia via Ukraine again, knowing how fast they will retaliate back or transform european cities into "Gaza".
The job of Israel inside Ukraine is to contain Europe/Nato. This explains, why Russia is willing to pay a high price for this project. A price that will pay off in 20 years.
Remember, at the beginning of the war Russia was already in Kiev. The initial pace of the war was too fast. Then came in the Vatican and Naftali Bennet that pressured Russia to retreat (source: Viktor Lukashenko) and finally arrived Boris Johnson that stopped the agreements of Istambul. Have you ever questioned why this happened? Well, the reason is very simple: to provide a plan B to Israel, Ukraine had to be prepared accordingly. This was only possible via the SMO: a win win solution for Russia and Israel.
It’s a crazy world with the worst conceivable psychopaths in charge so you can’t rule anything out, but I find this mighty farfetched from beginning to end. I think GM’s explanation of motivations is much more compelling, but perhaps time will tell. I do think that any concentration of Jews at this point is bad for whoever is nearby, though.
What?! Russia, willingly rent the spare room in their house to a known scheming Zionist ax murderer?!
As much as I respect Putin, who I can conceive as actually considering such an idea (for a day), there are far too many in government and military circles who would veto that immediately.
Your mythical view of US capabilities underestimates two major factors geography and distance. They will lose the ability to launch strikes against Iran from their now former gulf bases. The biggest disadvantages of aircraft are airfields and range the US lost both advantages. Iran did not need to totally humiliate the US by becoming drawn into a devastating unnecessary conflict, which everything you stated that would satisfy your video game/Hollywood perspective of the world would accomplish.
The Iranians only needed to expose the fragility of the US paper economy; deligimise and discredit the US information infrastructure that promoted them as good, moral, ethical and trustworthy; Damage or destroy US bases in the region while taking control of the Straits of Hormuz so the US can never repair, resupply or rebuild efficiently or effectively; While at the same time destroy the myth of US military supremacy built over many years by Hollywood and the video game industry. All while avoiding a devastating war, that in my opinion is a greater achievement.
>They will lose the ability to launch strikes against Iran from their now former gulf bases.
But that's the thing -- they are not former bases. And will not be.
Did you look at the images released?
These are gigantic objects, Iran hit some buildings, but the only way to destroy the whole thing is firing hundreds of Shaheds at a time, which they never did, or nuking them, which they also neve did
So the bases are mostly still intact and active.
>>So the bases are mostly still intact and active.<<
Really? Enlighten us about your source of knowledge. I doubt you've been there last week to take a look.
You always state things here as fact without ever providing some evidence or reliable foundations for your statements. Okay, sometimes you cite some obscure telegram channels that are debunked many times before.
Nuke, kill, destroy, bomb - that's always your single solution, sorry but it's getting boring a after a while.
Take a look at the satellite images:
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2066821836361412854
Does this look like bases completely destroyed?
You cannot destroy a base that is a square with a side of several kilometers by firing a few conventional drones and missiles at it. It's just not enough. Either you nuke, or you have to rain heavy bombs over it for a prolonged period of time. Iran did neither.
And if the bases were destroyed in March and abandonded, then why did Iran have to bomb them again in late May and early June?
Even if each base had 100,000 US troops with F35s/reapers/drones/patriots they would be easy targets, but ready to fight WW2.
Taking out radar/comms/tech is all you need to do to render the bases near useless.
What you say about the size of the bases is correct, brother, but the salient point is whether they can be manned and defended; they cannot. We started this conflict with radar and Reaper assets that took decades to assemble. The FPS 132, our key eyeball on Iranian launches, was taken out on February 28th. We would be looking at billions and years to rebuild our radars, even if Iran allowed it. Last week's destruction of the major AN installation at Jabal was just the period at the end of the sentence; Iran has run us off our near bases as easily as they controlled the strait. We are going to move out of range, just as the carriers have done, MoU or no. Either we were fed bad intel prior to launching this disaster, or the president chose to ignore it. All of our strategic assets in the region have been turned into liabilities.
But you don't need those radars to threaten Iran.
Ukraine has no FPS-132, you see what is happening to Russia
It doesn't matter if the bases in the Gulf states are not fully destroyed, as having the bases on the soil of the gulf states made the state them selves targets. The US has demonstrated no capabilities to protect these bases muchless the countries that host them. So for the safety of these countries the US will be asked to not reoccupy the facilities. The bases are mostly abandoned and the Iranians will not allow the shipping through the Strats of Hormuz to repair or rebuild what was damaged or destroyed.
>The US has demonstrated no capabilities to protect these bases muchless the countries that host them.
And?
>So for the safety of these countries the US will be asked to not reoccupy the facilities.
1) Who is going to ask the US that?
2) The bases have not been abandoned, they are in active use right as we speak. Where did you get that absurd idea that the US is no longer there?
Finally, and most important, you have absolutely zero understanding of the relationship here. It is not about protection of the Gulf monarchies from Iranian attack, it is about protection from internal unrest. That is what they really fear. And that means that they will always be on the US's side by default -- the US is a rapacious predatory oligarchy, always has been, always will be, it is how it was conceived and created. The Gulf states are that too, even more so, thus they are natural allies.
The Shia, on the other hand, with their emphasis on asceticism and martyrdom, are a mortal threat, because they don't have money as the one and only goal in their lives, and that makes them an extreme danger to any oligarchy. They are in a sort of way the equivalent to communist Russia in the 20th century. It is also why they resist so effectively -- the only Sunni to seriously fight back have been Hamas, and that is because they just have no choice when they have been under a campaign of physical extermination for decades. But everyone else in the resistance -- Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Iran -- are Shia, and the Alawites in Syria are a unique Shia branch too. These are people who will die for ideas and will shun material possession in the name of fighting and dying for a higher purpose.
But the United States, has been using precisely the decadence brought from greed to crush resistance to the oligarchic system, by removing the ideological basis for resistance, and the same has been done by the likes of the UAE and the other Gulf monarchies.
So the US not being able to protect them from missiles and drones will never change the relationship -- it runs much deeper -- and one has to be very naive to think that anything will change
P.S. This is also a major reason why Russia and the other Orthodox countries have to be crushed and permanently destroyed -- Orthodox Christianty has many of the same characteristics. It's far from the only reason, but it's a major one.
Bullshit. Without the radars and Patriots and other critical equipment (that Iran destroyed) they are sitting ducks. They are history.
And as for your glib comment that Iran "hit some buildings" that's typical deflecting tactic. It is what was in and/or under the buildings that is important.
You don't need ABM radars for offensive operations, how hard is that to understand?
Iran had to physically remove them to a distance from which the only possible attacks are with strategic bombers and SSGNs.
In order to make the next war impossible to wage with the same intensity.
But it did no such thing
What are you trying to prove here GM?
All your argumentation is always the same; the glorious, mighty USA plus it's allies is unharmed, they know what they're doing and winning.
All the countries that dare to resist the empire are morons, know little or nothing about how to fight the enemy and must, according to you, bomb, nuke, kill and deter the USA with all the barbaric steps that only the Epstein/Zionist class is willing to take.
Make this shit make sense!
If you do exactly what the enemy does, you become the very enemy you fight yourself.
Why is the USA declining? Why is their soft power dwindling? Why do people look to China these days instead to the USA? Why is the willingness to resist the empire growing?
Because China builds and keeps its word. The USA bombs, lies and deceives; and it's for everyone to see.
>All the countries that dare to resist the empire are morons
Not morons, compromised
And not all
But the big two are, and this is the core of the problem. If Russia and China had formed a proper defensive alliance with Iran and NK with the goal of evicting the US from Eurasia, we would be in a very different world
GM just tries to flood the comments with crap. Skip him.
I think GM has a point, and I disagree with your statement that "If you do exactly what the enemy does, you become the very enemy you fight yourself."
People of different races/religions/cultures will never be the same, even if they utilize the same technology, weapons, and tactics. The West has, for the past 500 years, been at the forefront of technology and tactics, which allowed them to conquer/colonize/subordinate much of the rest of the world, even while the rest of the world possessed far greater populations and resources.
So if the rest of the world could utilize Western technology & tactics, etc. to fight back, they could actually win and push the West out of parts of the world such as the middle east and east Asia. For example, Japan in the 1860s went through a phase where some people like GM wanted to adopt Western t&t to compete with the West, and the pro-emulation faction won, and campaigned successfully until 1941 when they hit a wall because of resource limitations, yet they were always distinctly different from Western nations such as Britain and France because of racial, religious, and cultural differences.
>>You don't need ABM radars for offensive operations, how hard is that to understand?<<
You don't? Well you certainly need them for the types of offensive operations that the US *prefers* to conduct. Instead, now they're forced to use bases as far away as Diego Garcia and Cyprus. With missile stockpiles running low, not having OTH radar or the ability to sufficiently man and staff the bases nearer to Iran, the US has lost its ability to conduct the majority of effective military operations against Iran. There's a good reason the US was relying so heavily on AWACS radar in the weaning weeks of the last round of the terrorist war on Iran. And how many of those planes were damaged or crashed? They take even longer to rebuild than the OTH radar systems.
Ah I see our resident flat earther has decided to chime in.
I'm waiting for those apology forms (in triplicate) btw. They are long overdue. Its a good chance to practice your literacy too. Lordy knows the school system failed with your flat earth shenanigans.
Good point! Israel could not handle normal civilian flight operations because the US air-tanker fleet was blocking halve of the Ben Gurion airport. The situation in Jordans airports was cramped at least. Perfect targets for a lone ballistic missile. And next time Iran might strike at Diego Garcia, then there is no reloading of ships and no base for long range bombers anywhere near.
I could not agree more. This is a geopolitical earthquake. The Empire can spin it whichever way they like - they lost huge. There are always those on these threads that speak of US Empire power in hushed, awed tones. Bullshit - Empire has been exposed by a medium rank but well armed power with admittedly some lucky geography. The idea that this over the hill, aging, punch-drunk heavyweight could take on either Russia or China (let alone both together), is beyond risible. It’s over, and when historians write about US Empire collapse in 200 years, they will identify March-June 2026 as the key period that set the demise in reinforced concrete. The only job now, for the non-Empire world, is to skilfully get the heavyweight safely out of the ring, before he hurts and embarrasses himself some more.
The Israelis and Americans are just building secret bases where ever they please unchallenged. In Iran, in Iraq, heck I wouldn't be surprised if Armenia and Azerbaijan had a few outposts with aid from the military. Posters here think in 2 dimensions. "Radar dead = base useless" really? As long as those places reduce the logistical tail of any operation in the region they are actually quite useful in the vast no-mans land desert.
I admire your persistence, lol.
"The US is getting six months to retool and will resume the war after the midterms"
Retool with what? This country can't even build a fucking road bridge without "outsourcing" the entire material side of the project to China.
>Retool with what?
With the same new Starlink and AI guided drones that have been taking out Russian Iskander and Bastion TELs in Crimea, Kursk, Bryansk, Rostov, Krasnodar, etc.
Somehow they cannot target anything around Slavyansk.
Lol, Russia has been rendered totally impotent, as demonstrated by the recent developments in...uh....yeah no nothing has changed.
🥱 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Starling, AI………..oooh, scary. the Russians are terrified. Maybe go and lie down for a bit
Don’t you read Simplicius’ other reports? These attacks on Russia are having very a minor impact. Certainly not game changing. And as other have commented, The US has neither the personnel nor tools with which to restock.
1. There are gasoline shortages in half of Russia already. Very minor effects indeed
2. The state has a duty to protect its citizens from armed attacks by outside forces. It is the most fundamental article in the social contract.
But Putin is blatantly refusing to act on that most fundamental duty that he has towards his people
Sure, buddy. Was that what your boss in Kyiv told you?
Which parts of Russia are experiencing gasoline shortages?
by then there will be jamming technologies for starlink
Russia's apathy about this is just another inexcusable flaw
And there will be no countermeasures and jammers will be everywhere?
Just like GPS -- there is regular GPS and then much more difficult military-grade GPS
i'm not gonna respond to you anymore - you're a lunatic
iran did not hit israel with a "small nuke" at any point...the things you believe are simply absurd and there is little point in trying to correct your understanding
SL can be jammed over wide areas as can EVEN MILITARY GPS. Yes jammers will need to be everywhere important
As usual you are dead right. If Iran allegedly knows that this existencial battle is not over, merely paused, why didnt they take out more of Israel then?
Iran had real military-technical problems during the most recent war. They were being suppressed and were not hitting what they had to at the needed rate.
It was even semi-officially half-acknowledged.
The hope is that the IRGC really needed the break and will use it better than the US.
They did use the previous one very well -- notice how almost nothing of value got taken out from on the ground in Iran the way that happened a year ago. Because measures were taken. But taking measures to protect against the threat from the most recent war does not necessarily prepare you for the next one. We shall see.
If they don't officially have ICBMs with nukes on them within six months, they are complete idiots.
The mere possibility of Iran making nukes has been around for 40 years.
Israel will nuke Iran the same second they screw together a warhead.
And I agree, Iran was really hurt by all those attacks. No AD to talk about and forced to hide in tunnels. The 12-day War was more efficient with real targets hit in Israel.
>Israel will nuke Iran the same second they screw together a warhead.
1) How will they know about what happens in a completely isolated deep cave somewhere around Mashhad?
2) You only reveal it when you have the numbers to meaningfully deter, meaning dozens of ICBMs that can reach the US,.
How will they know? Come GM…
They knew what happened in Fordow and Natanz, they even had people placing virus into their networks. They control all the cameras, mobile-phones there is in Iran. Or claim they do. They know.
Exactly as Ukrainian know of every Russian assets they bomb (and even film it on location when destruction strikes).
Netanyahu claimed that he is the new Djinghis Khan. I believe him.
Presumably the IRGC took measures to stop those channels of infiltration.
But the more important thing here is that Iran has in fact had nukes for a long time and even hit Tel Aviv with a small one during the 12-day war.
Carefully watch frame by frame around 0:11 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IKJ-0VZVfA
For the double flash and blue light.
But clearly that knowledge did not deter them in any way to proceed with their aggression.
IRGC has eliminated the Mossad infiltration. The info for targets provided by the IAEA is gone, no more inspections. The Iranians are not going to let them rebuild that capability again... Chip
Israel and its American thug will nuke Iran, regardless.
Agree. The only nukers are the ”good” ones…
Bad guys like Kim Il Yong, Putin, Andropov, Bresjnev, Stalin has never dropped a Nuke…strange.
Finally.
I had to read 1000's of words to see if anyone here is capable of one scrap of worthwhile analysis. At least one person here sees what is coming.
Nah. They definitely won't be using nukes on Iran any time soon. Not as part of *this* war (presuming it can be differentiated from the long and continuing war on Iran dating to the 80s). Would they try a "suitcase" or tactical nuke? Maybe on a remote Iranian nuclear or weapons site? Who knows. But I doubt it if they haven't already.
Now, supposing Isn'tReal is on the verge of succumbing to a massive future Iranian ballistic missile wave....would some psycho (aren't they all) Isn'tReally decide to invoke the Samson Option? Perhaps.
Said with the typical fatal overconfidence of a gullible propagandized American. I know from experience because once I was just like you.
Why would Iran take out trump or hegseth?
I dont think its possible to replace them with anyone approaching their level of toxic blustering ignorance, qualities combined with a truly impressive degree of unearned self belief. If uve been promoted light years beyond ur abilities, then ffs absorb briefs and listen to unbiased, unvarnished advice by ur brains trust.
Theres only 1 Trump and one Hegseth. And if like Iran ur staring at the end game re decades of imperial attacks and poverty levied by a genocidal terrorist and a psychotic war machine, then u want Team Trump and Pirate Pete at the helm barking orders surely?
>Why would Iran take out trump or hegseth?
1) Because they deserve it. Well, they deserve much worse than that -- being blown up is too quick and easy a death for these scumbsgs. Which is why one would best do it wih an FPV drone with a relatively small charge to the stomach, so that they bleed out with their guts spilled on the ground while still somewhat conscious. But these are also highly protected targets, so you can't be picky about the ways
2) Because as of now it has been conclusively demonstrated that the US and Israel can kill whoever they want in Iran and there will be no meaningful cost imposed on the people in the US and Israel who order it.
That equation must change for Iran to survive.
And the only way for it to change is for the people who matter in the US and Iran to start dying.
Yes, you can argue that Trump himself does not matter much. I do not disagree, but symbolically it is important. And then you go after the people who do matter, who are also softer targets. The billionaires that is.
Yachts, for example, are such a great point of vulnerability for a state actor to exploit.
Then once costs have been imposed the next time a US president starts thinking about assassinating the ayatollah he will think twice. Right now that is not the case
I may be wrong. I've never been to Iran and don't even know any Iranians. But it seems they, as a people, function at a higher level than to debase themselves with the methods you prescribe. It may be that they really would prefer martyrdom over compromising their souls by mimicking the behaviors of the synagogue of Satan.
This may be one of those don't end up becoming what you say you oppose type situations.
"Because as of now it has been conclusively demonstrated that the US and Israel can kill whoever they want in Iran and there will be no meaningful cost imposed on the people in the US and Israel who order it.
That equation must change for Iran to survive."
One might say the same about Russia.
They won't take out trump or hegseth for the same reason the allies did not take out hitler. hitler's incompetence helped the allies' war operations.
Usual retarded nonsense from the resident arse wind farm
Yeah, yeah, 🥱 US is just soooooo powerful. Iran is soooooo scared. China and Russia are quaking in their boots at the simply awesome display of Empire power. 😂 Did the US achieve any of its war aims?……Even a single one? How is the atmosphere today in the the madhouse that is the Us’s deranged welfare queen? 😂
If Iran is not scared, why didn't they sink a single US ship?
They have the capability.
And if Russia is not scared, why does the Kremlin refuse to protect its own people who are under 24/7 US bombardment?
Sinking a single ship would have greenlight the US to use nukes.
Regarding Russia: they are doing enough, to grinder ukraine soldiers and the european economy.
Both (Iran and Russia) have similar objectives (freedom and security) they reach using different approaches.
Take out people (following your suggestion) is absurd, because Trump & co are puppets/actors following a script, written by strategists decades ago. The same is valid in Europe for people like Merz, Starmer or Van der Leyen. All this people must do and say, what they do and say! If you really want to take out someone, then follow the line of who wrote this scripts for whom. As soon as you get to the "whom", you will find out that they sit in the same boat, playing with all involved war-parties (Iran, Russia, Europe and so on).
Therefore my question: what should a wise leader do for his country, knowing who is behind this conflicts? I personally think that both Iran and Russia are acting very wisely. But degustibus non est disputandum.
>Sinking a single ship would greenlight the US to use nukes.
So, in other words. Iran is a afraid and has not established deterrence
>Regarding Russia: they are doing enough, to grinder ukraine soldiers and the european economy.
Russia is doing absolutely nothing to protect its people, which is the most basic duty of the state.
A bus with children was just blown up in Bryansk.
This is daily.
Your "tit for tat" approach is wrong.
Why?
The military budget of the US is 10 times the one of Russia. And Russia produces 7 times more arsenal than US and Nato combined.
China is producing fantastic products that cost 6 to 10 times less than in US or Europe.
If you divide the numbers of STEM students by the population you get:
Russia: 0,0038
China: 0,0036
USA: 0,0014
The above examples and numbers tell you a simple story: both USA and Europe are crashing.
If you understand this numbers and examples, then it becomes clear, that a "tit for tat" approach in such a context is simply wrong. Why? Because it implicates unnecessary risks. It's therefore much better to deescalate and "do nothing". Because the more time passes the faster the decline of tour adversaries.
>Your "tit for tat" approach is wrong.
Where did you see me ask for tit for tat?
Tit-fot-tat is a losing strategy.
You need to inflict disproportionate damage.
>The above examples and numbers tell you a simple story: both USA and Europe crashing.
1) How is that going to stop the drones and missiles from flying into Russia and destroying it?
2) The USA and Europe crashing is precisely the reason for the war -- they need to loot Russia to buy themselves some more time. Them crashing harder would only make them more desperate and emboldened. Thus not fighting back is not an option -- time is not on Russia's side.
Sure, buddy.
Sure, buddy.
First of all the reportage on US casualties, including damaged or destroyed ships, planes, etc. has been subject to incredible levels of censorship. For example, at one point several of the regional TG channels reported a sunk US "frigate" but nothing ever got printed in the US MSM or even standard alternative media. Who's to say Iran didn't severely damage one or more US ships?
P.S. without torpedo boats or submarines, it's not easy to sink a ship. Even mine damage can be limped past back to port. If you think Iran was going to waste a surface to surface ballistic missile in an attempt to hit a US carrier and in light of the other goings on, I don't know what to tell you.
The declaration “go after soft targets such as the Jewish billionaires in their mansions and yachts. Lots of ways to do that” should get more currency on social nets.
The supremacist Jewish lunatics, profiteering on wars in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, deserve special attention from humanity. Jewish billionaires living in US have been providing a massive AI assistance to the Zionist state, up to targeting medics and journalists. And yet the Jewish billionaires like Brin go hysterical when identified as direct participants in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
The profitable Shoah-biz has removed any vestiges of decency from the majority of global Jewry.
My condolences to honorable Jewish individuals.
I would agree that the MoU is not going to be honored by either the USA or Israel and that the alleged split is just performative. We will see the restart of the hostilities very soon during the next maybe two years, probably via a different vector, possibly Armenia and/or Azerbaijan and the Kurds.
I equally find it frustrating and sometimes incomprehensible that Russia, Iran and China as well never go for the 'kill' regardless how advantageous their position seems to be, but maybe we should start to acknowledge that their commitment to their people, humanity and peace is not just mere lip-service, but that maybe they are genuinely trying to avoid having to fight a nuclear global war...?
Nonetheless I believe, that the USA and Israel especially suffered a devastating defeat at the hands of Iran and I truly hope the IR is going to use its newly won leverage wisely and to the maximum benefit of the Iranian, Lebanese and Palestinian people!
>their commitment to their people
????
Russian people are slaughtered daily. Civilians, that is, we are not even talking about the military.
The Kremlin blatantly refuses to do anything to stop it
That is "commitment to their people"???
I am not saying I fully understand or agree with every approach of the Russian government, BUT:
Whats the alternative? Russia could try to occupy the whole of Ukraine and live with a festering wound of terrorism and guerilla warfare in its underbelly, it could try to take on NATO frontally and risk WWIII and nuclear Armageddon or it acknowledges the political, economical and military realities and proceeds to bleed Ukraine and the western auxiliary forces try and empties their arsenals until the global and geopolitical circumstances are changing. There is no golden trophy to be won and no easy way out, Putin knew why he tried 8 long years to avoid being dragged into the Ukraine...and there is a reason for the slomo approach of Russia, there is just no realistic endgame yet and this is the cleanest and most controllable option after not having any war at all.
And Putin learned his ML, he knows that there is no way imperialism is coming to its senses and walking away for the good of humanity, that is just not how it works...
>Russia could try to occupy the whole of Ukraine and live with a festering wound of terrorism and guerilla warfare in its underbelly
1) So missiles and drones flying in ever increasing quantities in perpetuitiy is better?
2) It doesn't have to live with a festering wound. It's all dependent on the Kremlin's resolve to cleanse the territory of Banderites. Back in the 1940s Stalin couldn't do it because it was hard to know who was a Banderite in a pre-digital world. Pre-analog even. Not the case now when we have total surveillance.
>it could try to take on NATO frontally and risk WWIII and nuclear Armageddon
So NATO can just bomb Russia freely and Russia should just take it? Do I understand you? Because that is what's happening now.
>or it acknowledges the political, economical and military realities and proceeds to bleed Ukraine and the western auxiliary forces try and empties their arsenals until the global and geopolitical circumstances are changing.
Acknowledging the realities would mean recognizing that the only one getting bled here is Russia.
Sorry, I tried to answer in earnest and I think my points are not completely invalid or unfounded. The times where a country the size of Ukraine can be seized, occupied and pacified by military means are long gone and thinking otherwise is just ahistorical and delusional. Whining and battlecries are not very covincing arguments, I told you what my take on Putins motivations and assessments is, and I would appreciate if you would at least try to reply to them with the air of sincerity... that does not take away from the fact that war is ugly and people dying is horrible, but that actually rather underscores my position than yours.
>The times where a country the size of Ukraine can be seized, occupied and pacified by military means are long gone and thinking otherwise is just ahistorical and delusional.
Yes, of course, it can be occupied.
The US occupied an even bigger country (Venezuela is 1.5x Ukraine's size) in just a couple hours.
It's a matter of political will.
But in the current Kremlin there is very strong political will **not to win** the war, because it would be bad for the real masters of Putin.
>I told you what my take on Putins motivations and assessments is, and I would appreciate if you would at least try to reply to them with the air of sincerity
Putin's real motivations:
1) Protect the oligarchic socio-economic model put in place by Yeltsin. It's what Putin was installed in power to do, and what he has been doing for a quarter century. At all costs, up to and including the destruction of Russia.
2) Protect Israel. Because the bulk of the oligarch who are Putin's employers are Jewish. Again, at all costs, up to and including the destruction of Russia.
3) Within those constraints, try to get a better deal from the West on the neocolonial arrangement. A better deal for the oligarchs, that is, not for the Russian people. But only within those constraints.
4) If needed, give it all away, as long as the oligarchy maintains its positions. Because for the oligarchy, which has no allegiance to Russia, it is better to own something while being subservient to the West than to lose everything while trying to fight it.
5) No amount of humiliation, slaughter of civilians, destruction, etc. should deviate the Kremlin's policies from the goals outlined above.
If the way the SMO is conducted makes no sense to you, it is because you hold fundamental assumptions about Putin's loyalties and goals that run counter to the above.
And vice versa -- the way the SMO is conducted makes perfect sense once you understand it.
Why do you ALWAYS inject these discussions on Russia/Ukraine into Iran threads?
Is this a real question?
If yes, in short: I did not. My first post referred to the MoU and the Iran-question primarily. I then only replied to the points GM made about Russia...
If you are holding the opinion one could separate the Iran-theater from Russia-Ukraine or China-Taiwan or Israel or Venezuela etc. you are very mistaken in my regard, we are witnessing the end game of the US-Empire all over the globe and - hopefully -imperialism as a whole, everything is connected and Russia-Ukraine just the most matured and advanced of all those hotspots, so it naturally comes up often in such discussions.
"We will see the restart of the hostilities very soon..."
We'll be lucky if we ever see an end and any need to "restart." Israel hasn't even slowed down, and now Trump is suggesting Syria should invade Lebanon, too...
I wouldn't argue with that, it has been rather quiet on the Iranian front though...
I think of Lebanon as the Iranian front, since they so particularly made it a condition of peace. And that has not quieted down at all. I don’t know if any Iranians are currently being murdered, but probably.
Everything will be dependent on Iran's determination to enforce the MoU.
There are two likely scenarios:
-Either the MoU ties Irans hands, breaks its momentum, introduces division in its leadership and enables Israel to have slowburning campaigns of murder and conquest (I guess this is the calculus of USrael, analogous to Gaza and Westbank).
-Or the MoU ties the hands of the USA in its overt support of Israel and enables Iran to isolate the Israel-problem from the GCC and the USA and to concentrate its firepower and leverage on the zionist entity.
I think it is solely down to the readiness of Iran to test the US' commitment to the treaty by punishing Israel for every violation and retaliating full force. Given the broad domestic opposition to this war, the political cycle and the depletion of its military I would assume there is a good chance the US-Administration would keep its feet still or even exert pressure on Israel, but I am not very optimistic when it comes to the Iranian leadership, which has unfortunately shown no cohesion and no will to fully use the means at his disposal.
What about a third possibility? The US continues the charade of criticizing Israel, Israel continues murdering people all over the world with US weapons, and Iran does whatever it does. With the US pretending to be out, Iran is unlikely to hit gulf states, and it has been reluctant, since early in the war, to hit Israel. If they want to survive they’re going to have to, imo, but who knows what they’ll do.
the Turds are not getting involved in this and will be wiped out en masse if they do
this is not fucking Syria
Yes, one hopes they would have learned one thing or two over the course of time, just empiricism tells otherwise...
they have no chance in a ground op in Iran...too far and too much firepower.
the US/Israel hope in that case was to neuter the ballistic missile capability and that did not happen. The munitions are now expended....US stocks are critically low and I don't expect Israel's munitions supply to be that deep now either
You're hilarious 🤣 You really should write children's novels with that imagination, as your "talents" are wasted here on the 'stack.
Russia is really in a sad situation today
https://www.rt.com/russia/641716-ukraine-drone-children-zakharova/
Russian officials can only complain about these terrorists attacks.
On G& summit Trump says that the USA is turning against Russia again:
And Ushakov said that they are waiting to welcome Kushner and Witkoff next week in Moscow...
US never stopped being against form Russia. lmao
GM
Wieder sehr einseitig deine Überlegungen
Zitat:
Die USA erhalten sechs Monate Zeit zur Umstrukturierung und werden den Krieg nach den Zwischenwahlen wieder aufnehmen. In der Zwischenzeit perfektionieren sie bereits die Jagdtechniken auf russischen Raketenabwehrsystemen mithilfe von Starlink und Kamikaze-Drohnen.
Zitat Ende
Du nennst die Zeit den entscheidenden Vorteil für die USA und Israel...Zeit um Waffentechniken zu finden z.B gegen Drohnen nennst als Vorteil „Starlink“ und bringt Beispiele der Russen.
Was Du vergisst ist der Faktor ZEIT für beide Seiten gilt auch für Verbündete des Irans wie China oder Russland z.B Starlink...eigentlich haben auch China und Russland bis Stand Juli bereits über 460 Satelitten ins All gebracht...natürlich ohne die Show wie im Westen üblich...wobei das System der Russen etwas anders funktionieren wird als Starlink das übrigens einen gewaltigen Nachteil hat, NEIN ZWEI..einer davon muss immer Gewinn einbringen, der zweite...denn Manöver der Navigation der Satelliten sind Grenzen gesetzt nicht alles funktioniert bei diesem mit Sonnenenergie...wobei ein "Husten" der Sonnen allen Starlink mindest aber 85 % davon eh ein Ende setzen würde...was früher oder später zu 100 % passieren wird.
Wie gesagt ZEIT arbeitet für beide Seiten und bis jetzt zumindest die letzten 30 Jahre hat diese Russland und China besser genutzt....auch weil SIE bei ihren Entwicklungen KEINE DIVIDENDE einfahren müssen...im sogenannten Westen wird NICHTS entwickelt NICHTS erforscht was absehbar erstmal keinen Gewinn für einbringt ...
In Russland und China wird Befohlen BESSER ZU SEIN ALS DER GEGNER ...wer hat wohl mehr erfolg....ala Hyberschall ?
Feedback geben
Russia and China launching their own Starlink equivalents solves nothing.
Starlink is a first-strike weapon, by providing the enemy real-time precision guidance over what used to be the untouchable deep rear.
So what if Russia and China can do the same to the US? The problems remain:
1) they have no forward positioning of strike assets that could take advantage of that capability
2) they don't have the guts to do it anyway
3) the point is that the first-strike capability should be taken away so that it is never attempted
The only solution here is to physically remove Starlink from orbit.
Which, again, countries that are groveling in Trump's feet will never do.
I believe you will be proven right. If the pause even lasts to the midterms, which I doubt because Israel is hardly even slowing down. There will be no peace until it is gone.
What's happening inside Iran is not looking good. Very Peskovian.
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https://x.com/Safarnejad_IR/status/2067167817292783856
⚠️ Warning: They want to End the nightly demonstrations in support of the government!
You're forgiven to think that by "they", I mean Mossad, CIA, United States & etc but No! "They" refers to Pezeshkian administration!
Talk about 5th column!
https://x.com/LaurS70594/status/2067170994230300803
WTF. Whats their line of argumention?
https://x.com/Safarnejad_IR/status/2067172379198115927
That it's obstructing diplomatic efforts!
And we should return to normalcy.
https://x.com/LionBullionKing/status/2067213910961250395
Likely related to this
>Protests in front of the MFA building in Mashad.
>Iranian protesters chant “Death to Araghchi, the dishonourable traitor.”
https://x.com/Safarnejad_IR/status/2067218478247874830
That was 13th of June and since then many have talk to the protesters to prevent such things from happening and it has been largely successful.
This is an excuse. They started demanding the end to the demonstrations during the war itself! What was their excuse back then? There's a pattern of decisions that clearly shows what agenda they're following!
What the heck would be a "return to normalcy?" Israel is already demonstrating what it considers normal, since it hasn't even slowed down its various genocides, and the US is showing the same by continuing to supply the weapons that are killing everybody. Yet THIS was the historic defeat of the empire???
At least in Iran people are protesting against the deal.
That means there is genuine resistance potential in the broader society
Do you see people on the streets in Russia?
No, but to be fair, I wouldn’t. I’m not there, and there’s never any telling where resistance is coming from anymore anyway, with spies everywhere.
Resistance has a very fine line to tread, be it in Russia or Iran. On one hand, the actual devil is behind some of the resistance, on the other hand it's probably behind some of the establishment, too. The enemy is wily, persistent, well-resourced, and heartless. The constant celebration here of meaningless events is maddening.
Who the hell is Laur Steur?
You do realize that you touched on a very good reason that the Iranians might want to minimize the street "protests" or celebrations in your own comment, right? These gatherings give cover to the exact same Mossad/CIA/etc. elements that were utilized in January. The Iranian government wants "normalcy" because it gives them less to be vigilant about on their own streets and squares while they are dealing with an external possibly existential threat. It also means people return to work and the economy recovers from the effects of sanctions and war more quickly.
Iran is Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.
lol, great comedy.
Would "The USA/Israel is Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" be true?
That one is funny too, Spectre.
But saying that something is for you great comedy or funny, is not a rational an argument in discussion. It's kid's discussion.
A discussion that you initiated, goy.
No, it was Julio Prestes.
I have just put a question mark after quoting him.
You have not answered that question
You Ukrainian jews (Khazars) are really funny.
What does that even mean?
It means Iran won this part of war on many fields.
Mainly in popular support around the world. That also means political support from different governments.
Who would have thought that Pakistan, Saudis and Qatar wil shift. Or that Oman will cooperate in taxing Hormuz.
Iran rose to 4th world power.
It survived treacherous 12 days attack a year ago and 42 days treacherous attack in March.
Has forced numerous air carriers to move far away, after mysterious fires at USS Ford.
It has closed Hormuz and taxed passing ships.
Jew ‘Dennis’ chimes in.
lol, silly goy.
Yep. The Jew considers all others goy. Thanks for proving my point as why the Jew is the problem.
How are your banderites friends, chochol?
Ah, the typical Persian pride: The Farr bearing the Nur of Islam. Unbowed, unbent, and never once in doubt!
Yet they won this part and they are united.
In contrast the USA lost and is divided. With strong opposition to war, which could not be won from the onset.
That;s because Natanyahu Epsteined Trump.
If even you knew that the war couldn't be won from the outset, then what do you think US leaders knew?
Trump is Epsteined. That's why he entered war. And now he tries to exit it
He doesn’t know anything. It is a waste of time to educate these people.
Yeah, I know.
I would find those words to be more fitting for Ukraine.
It's a comforting fantasy, no?
It’s about as comforting as thinking that Russia is going to win this war. Russia is essentially a vassal state of China.
Russia has won with Ukraine and NATO already before Trump came to power. What is left for Trump is to negotiate peace deal, so economic relations through Bering Strait, possible with underwater tunnel, can develop.
Trump already gave to Russia Ukraine and East Baltics. Also the other East Flank countries are under question, depending how local population will act against influx of Ukrainians into their territories.
OK, Banderist. And what is your beloved Ukraine, then?
Go away Jew
They literally bow towards Mecca every day to a false prophet...
Unit8200
There are thousands religions. There are no false or true prophets.
The wold is becoming secular, agnostic, that includes Iran.
Besides, Jewish population in Iran is deep rooted and strong. They live there peacefully for thousands years. They have all liberties and support Iran state.
Israel can't stand this example and bombed historic Tehran synagogue in April.
...and getting rich in the process.
no final solution until that illegal jew state in occupied Palestine is eliminated
"The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations program and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing."
Get rich, or die trying.
"41 G7 energy billionaires have increased their wealth by $23.5 billion since the unlawful US and Israel war against Iran began, reveals new Oxfam analysis published ahead of the G7 summit in Evian, France. This is equivalent to about $1,000 in the time it takes to blink."
https://www.oxfam.org/en/research/ending-impunity-and-inequality
https://oi-files-d8-prod.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/2026-06/Ending%20Impunity%20and%20Inequality.pdf
From the Western view, that is what it is all about - money.
They might try to eat their money one day soon? Or will we burn money to get it warm in winter again like done in the 1920 in Germany already?
These days they can't even eat their money or used it to keep warm - it's all in digital form - in a blink of the eye, it could be gone.
The majority of people in Germany appear exhausted and resigned, as if by the ongoing state of emergency and the multiple crises. In the tragedy of "King Lear", William Shakespeare has his character the Earl of Gloucester say: “Such is the curse of the times, when fools lead the blind...I stumbled when I saw." Yet those who do not stand up to the warmongers end up on the front lines.
Amen!
Resignation is perfect for elites. Unfortunately.
I live in Canada and despite our Prime Minister's best effort at inpiring speeches, his call to build a stronger military has gotten a public response as potent as a limp penis. I'm wondering if we have enough blue collar workers left to build battlefield safe spaces where soldiers can hug each other for support because a sergeant yelled at them.
It's always about money, real estate, minerals.
The report only covers what the US lost.
Iran took some pretty big losses, too.
Iran lost military and naval equipment and used up a portion of its drones and missiles.
Iran lost billions in oil revenue.
Iran's economy is in shambles with a near-worthless currency.
Iran also had a fair amount of its infrastructure destroyed.
Iranian civilian and military deaths number in the thousands.
I'm not sure if the parents of the 175 girls killed in a bombing think they won.
Human lives matter too.
The Iran conflict was a US-Israeli air bombing and drone war.
And you never know if it's really over.
There are always two sides to the conflict, where winning and losing in a bombing and drone SMO can be more a matter of nuances, pro and con.
Yes, in this illegal war the USA and Israel murdered thousands civilians and destroyed 20 000 civilian infrastructure, including 17 000 homes.
Yet Iran won this part of war. The majority of world, including the majority of American population, do support them. That support can only grow, as more are aware who Iranians and who American/Israelis are.
More war is coming shortly and it will last in intervals for another 18 months. With 10 000 times more murdered civilians with nuclear bombs, famine and disease and half country flatten to stone age. That is 15 000 000 murdered or 16% of population.
Yet Iran will win again. Use of nuclear bombs on Iran will mobilise China, Russia, Pakistan and the BRIKS to give full, unconditional support to Iran economically and militarily.
For the last 49 years they have dig up underground the whole critical infrastructure. They have learned to save their civilisation underground for the last 2000 years.
Read about Iran't cultural heritage.
"Concept of Underground City
An underground city is a series of linked subterranean spaces that may provide a defensive refuge; a place for living, working or shopping; a transit system; mausolea; wine or storage cellars; cisterns or drainage channels; all or several of these.
https://www.iranhrc.com/cultural/iran-underground-cities/
It was a US-led air bombing and drone war.
Bombing means war. Most Americans are against Iran war.
That is a background for the Second Civil War in the USA. Brutal and deadly, as the first one was.
There would be aerial bombs from drones. All cartels with their billions will fuel this civil war with all might they have.
Bombing means war.
Air-based war.
Air campaign is war. Illegal one. Without Congressional approval.
Agreed. I corrected.
If somebody, another country, bombed your country from the air, with no legal justification or UN authority, would that be an act of war, Denis?
Good point, Gnuneo.
Air and drone-based war.
It's fascinating--and beyond tragic for all involved--to watch the Israelis engineer their own destruction. They have been paranoid about their neighbors since Israel's founding, but until the recent Gaza genocide, they have been very successful in managing the world's perception of Israel and the plight of the Palestinians. But Gaza ripped off the mask for all to see: Israel is a murderous, blood thirsty, genocidal, psychotic society. That progression from paranoia to full blown "WE MUST KILL THEM ALL and we don't care if the whole world sees it" is what will end this Jewish state. And it's right on schedule according to Ron Unz who pointed out that no Jewish state has lasted more than 80 years. In 2028 it will have been 80 years since the founding of Israel in 1948.
Nobody of influence and authority cares what the people think or like or want.
Sorry, what did you expect? Russia has faced down Europe, Ukraine and NATO arms, but was a Great Power until recently. Iran all alone faced down the USA, the Global Hegemon, and its monstrously armed Little Satan Israel, along with many if not most of its neighbours - none of which had been under crippling sanctions for decades, and had spent $tns on imported weapons systems during that time.
This may not have been cowboys and indians at scale, but when the side that spent <10% of its attackers military budget wins, no-one truly expects there isn't going to be a hell of a lot of civilian bloodshed along the way by the Empire.
So you are asking too much. Of course, you could be reacting to the almost callous nature of the author's glee at this Imperial loss.
Do those girl's parents think "They won"? No-one who loses anyone in a war thinks that is winning (Well, being realistic, some will ofc), but they can separate the personal loss from the national victory. against a foe that wanted to bomb the country back to the stone age, split it up into racial cantons, and create a bloody civil war between them to tear the civilisation to pieces. Their daughters were unlikely to survive, or to want to see such a future. How would YOU feel if your home was under such a threat?
"The Iran conflict was not a war, but a US-Israeli bombing and drones SMO."
It wasn't an SMO, because it was not defined as such legally before the action. It was an undeclared, full scale war against what was expected to be a defenseless country, and the rape was foiled by the unexpected strength and will of the defenders. It was a war - and will probably be a war again.
I hope the Iranian govt is building deep shelters for the population too. And ones with biological warfare sensors too.
It was an air-based war.
I stand corrected.
Air and sea.
yes
"Iran took some pretty big losses, too."
Not nearly as much as the Zionists.
"Iran lost military and naval equipment and used up a portion of its drones and missiles."
That's what they are for, to be used in self defense. (Does the fire brigade whine about using their stored water to put out a house fire?)
"Iran lost billions in oil revenue."
So too did the Zionists
"Iran's economy is in shambles with a near-worthless currency."
Bullshit
"Iran also had a fair amount of its infrastructure destroyed."
Shitrael has way more. And the losses of US bases is in the range of 50 billion at least.
"Iranian civilian and military deaths number in the thousands."
US military personnel dead and wounded in the thousands too.
"I'm not sure if the parents of the 175 girls killed in a bombing think they won."
Ask the parents of the dead 'meriKunts that as well.
I won't bother stating what measures show the Zionists lost, Everyone with a clear mind knows. What are you smoking Denis? Or snorting? Or injecting?
Historical Collapse: Since the early 2010s, and accelerating after 2018 sanctions, the Rial has lost over 95% of its value against the US Dollar in real terms, though exact figures vary by the specific timeframe and official vs. parallel market rates.
Common knowledge, grr.
You can't change facts with obfuscations, grr.
The rial is only worth 5% of its value from 15 yrs ago.
Sorry to hurt your feelings.
All currencies lose value over time. USD for a great example.
And what about the rest of your false assertions?
USD never lost 95% of its value in 15 years. lol
Iran lost 95% of its value in that time.
Lucky for you, the rial is not your currency.
😂
I never said it did. But it, and all, do lose value.
Once again, what about the rest of your false assertions?
I've covered it all.
I'm not playing the game anymore.
Those within the USA have seen their dollars lose a bit more than that (iirc) in purchasing power since the inception in 1913 of the ill-named "Fed" (Federal Reserve System, the privately held central bank). Privately held central banks are the true enemy of all humankind, but far too many humans (if indeed politicians are human) are only too pleased to be purchased by the financial overlords who have their boots on the faces of all who fall prey to the lure of consumerism and those of us who, greatly outnumbered, would prefer to be left alone and live a simple life with the possibility of obtaining the bare necessities, something which in a just society would be possible without greatly inconveniencing our consumerist brethren.
Sovereignty, individual and societal, depends upon self-sufficiency, thus autarky should be the desired societal outcome. Exchange rates would then be beyond manipulation by the money-mad overlords whose principal product is human misery.
And the US hasn't been under decades of illegal sanctions. It shits me when ignorant people criticise (and gloat) Venezuala, Cuba, Iran, etc having tanked economies without naming the reason. And that is US embargoes, sanctions, sabotage; economic terrorism.
Blaming the victim is a cunt's act.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/blockade-sends-irans-oil-exports-plunging-four-year-low-inflation-soars-world-war-2-levels
😂
Zerohedge is a CIA cover and imperial mouthpiece camouflaged as 'critical'.
To cite the imperialist to make your point is an oxymoron.
By the way, China reduced their import to zero to stabilize the oil price for a while. Now Iranian tankers will resume delivery to China and other friendly countries and get paid one way or the other to compensate their losses. Plus there is the BRICS-Bank to help with many financial matters and Nabulina (head of the Russian central Bank) is meeting the minister of finance of Iran next week. I assume they're not talking about the weather.
What makes you think ZH is CIA-affiliated?
Here are some Iranian losses which you deny of course.
I guess I made that up, too. 😂Iran's military losses during the 2026 conflict (Operation Epic Fury), which began in late February, are significant but vary widely depending on the source, with figures often disputed between Iranian state media, Western intelligence, and independent monitors.
Personnel Losses
Military Killed in Action (KIA): Estimates range from 1,800 to 7,650 personnel. Iranian state media (IRNA) has reported lower figures around 1,800 "martyrs," while Israeli intelligence estimates range from 3,000 to over 7,000, including both IRGC and regular army (Artesh) members
1.
Senior Command: Iran suffered a decapitation of its high command. At least 48 to 52 senior officials and commanders were killed, including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei (killed in opening strikes on Feb 28), IRGC Commander-in-Chief Hossein Salami, Armed Forces Chief of Staff Mohammad Bagheri, and the heads of the IRGC Navy and Aerospace forces
1.
Wounded: Estimates for Iranian military wounded range from 4,200 to 15,000, though precise numbers are difficult to verify due to access restrictions
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Naval Losses Iran's navy, particularly the IRGC Navy (IRGCN), which relies on asymmetric warfare tactics, took heavy hits in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz.
Vessels Destroyed/Damaged: Approximately 14 naval vessels were reported lost or destroyed, including:
1 Kilo-class submarine: Reportedly damaged during US/Israeli strikes
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Frigates: The frigate Jamaran was struck on March 9, suffering significant damage and crew losses
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Fast Attack Craft: The IRGCN lost numerous fast-attack boats and patrol vessels. On May 4, the US CENTCOM reported sinking 6 to 7 IRGC small boats during an attempt to interfere with a US escort mission in the Strait of Hormuz
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Strategic Impact: The IRGC Navy's ability to project power was severely degraded, leading to a temporary closure of the Strait of Hormuz in June before a tentative agreement to reopen it
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Other Military Equipment Losses Beyond personnel and naval assets, Iran lost a substantial portion of its air defense and air power:
Combat Aircraft: Approximately 18 combat aircraft (including F-4s, F-14s, and Su-24s) were destroyed, largely on the ground at airbases like Hamadan and Bandar Abbas
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Air Defense Systems: Satellite imagery and intelligence assessments confirm the destruction of at least 22 air defense systems, including Bavar-373 and S-300 batteries
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Missile Launchers: An estimated 60 ballistic and cruise missile transporter-erector-launchers (TELs) were destroyed by coalition strikes
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Context of the Conflict These losses occurred during a 3.5-month conflict that saw direct strikes on Iranian soil, missile exchanges with Israel, and a US naval blockade. The conflict effectively ended with a tentative agreement reached on June 14, 2026, which called for a ceasefire and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, though diverging interpretations of the deal's terms remain
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4. The war also resulted in significant civilian casualties, with over 3,700 Lebanese civilians and an estimated 1,700 to 3,600 Iranian civilians killed
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Note: Casualty figures in active conflicts are often contested, with state actors having incentives to minimize their own losses and maximize enemy casualties. The figures above represent the low-to-high ranges provided by independent trackers and government sources as of mid-June 2026.
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List what the shitraelis and meriKunts lost too. For balance. List all military and technical, and civil infrastructure destroyed in GCC and shitrael.
You are soundding like a Zionist troll tbh.
grr, pull yourself together, man.
I was just pointing out that Iran took some big losses, too.
That's it.
Why get all emotional over a simple statement I made? Now you say I'm a Zionist troll.
Zionists don't cheer for Iran, grr. 😂
Now cheer up.
Ah, now we know why Iran is grovelling for peace!
Yawn…
For the last 15 years Iran had inflation 9% yearly at the beginning, gradually to 50% in 2025.
Part of economic crisis was confiscation of over 300 billions in international deposits and it's own defence expenditure.
They were spending 10 billion yearly on military.
Yet they won with the USA spending up to 800 billion yearly.
It means Iran's military and planning genius and comparison to the USA idiocy and corruption.
It's a very serious, extremely mature country, that hasn't had the maneuverability to have incompetent leadership since its founding.
That doesn't mean the leadership is NICE - you have only to encounter the dreaded 'religious police' to know that.
But it's an astounding, amazing country, the most civilised place I've ever been to (And I've done my fair share of traveling), and if you ever get the chance to - go and visit.
Just, for the Love of Allah, respect their customs if you go. For your own sake.
I lived in a Muslim country for a few years and was shocked by the disrespect displayed by fellow foreigners, particularly with respect to Ramadan, which in my first year took place in high summer, when they would smugly eat, drink and smoke in front of host country nationals. I was often ridiculed for respecting the abstention, at least in public. My Muslim colleague with whom I shared an office almost certainly knew that my frequent trips to the bathroom had less to do with liquid expulsion than with sneaking drinks of water, but when I left that job to take advantage of a better opportunity, he told me that I was the only one of the crew he and his native colleagues liked or respected and that they had planned a farewell party for me at which their non-alcohol-imbibing custom would be suspended in my honor. Like you, I've done my fair share of traveling (in fact, I'm an expat) and found "my" Muslim country very civilized indeed. I still have friends there after more than forty years.
I followed ramadan out there as well - not as religiously of course, but out of politeness. Also got up for the morning prayers when with host families.
It's not a religion for me - I'm FAAR too liberal-minded and inquisitive/critical, and that doesn't sit well on any Abrahamic cult, but more than any of the Xian shit, Islam actually makes sense, and doesn't have the innate racism of Judaism.
It's strange, there are Westerners who easily fit into other cultures, and there are Westerners who cannot.. though the same is true of every culture and place in the World. Many migrants want to assimilate, others to keep their own culture.
Traveling opens many minds. Not the kind of 'Southern Spain' traveling, obviously.
Visiting Iran is on my things to do list.
It's well worth it grr, just don't... transgress. The state doesn't piss around, and it's one of the very few places that "Being a Westerner" doesn't mean kid gloves.
And they have strange rules. No chess, no playing cards, no non-Muslim touching a Muslim woman - not even on the hand.
If you're a couple, either get married or sleep separately.
I'll tell you this though, if it wasn't for those rules - especially for the non-touching >_< lmao - I'd have been trying to live there since I visited.
It's just... beautiful. And the people - WOW! It's not just the women are smoking hot Bene Gesserit reverend mothers (What they wear, lol), the guys are... nice too! No tourists, I guess.
Wonderful place.
I think Iran is rapidly changing, with departure of Hamenei. And before.
There were protests against hidjab, but also against ayatollahs and religious rules.
There would be generational change, the present elites are in their 60. After war populace always needs more freedoms for their sacrifice and hardship during war.
I would expect Chinese and Russian businesses moving into Iran after war. And Iranians expanding international trade as sanctions are lifted.
And Iran possibly becoming tourist destination if not after war radioactivity.
Fortunately, most of their trade is no longer in dollars, but Yuan or Ruble.
The problem with your argument, grr, is that I never denied US or Israeli losses.
You're asserting against a point I never made, from being over-emotional and non-objective. Comical.
I once had a mate just like you. Nice enough bloke, meant well, but thick as a brick. Couldn't apply logic, and pulled silly arguments out of his arse all the time.
Impossible to have a serious conversation with. Lost in his own world of warped thinking.
you must be english Grrr.
Yeah, I've just realised that ann, lol.
or Australian
All I was saying is that both sides experienced losses, which you interpret as you can only talk about US losses or your feelings get hurt, and you resort to obfuscating gobbledygook. hahaha
I think people are responding because you seem to be saying the win is pyrrhic. Now, if Iran had attacked first, that might be a valid argument. But when your country is attacked without warning by an aerial blitzkrieg, when there are massive assassination campaigns, and when tons of educational and medical buildings are deliberately targeted, OF COURSE the defending country is going to suffer heartbreaking losses.
Hundreds, or thousands were killed before the first Iranian retal was launched.
Their losses were unavoidable. If someone out of the blue walks up and punches you hard in the nose, breaking it, but then at the end of the resulting fight you are the only one standing - your nose is still broken, but you won the fight.
Are you in pain? Of course (Once the adrenalin wears off).
But you weren't the one that started the fight.
It's obv nice if someone is concerned over your bleeding nose and wounds, but that concern should not sound like it's taking away from your victory, when you are a quiet old small hermit and you were attacked by two well-known brutal MMA fighters - and you beat the living snot out of them.
Maybe you should switch to milder medication; these ones make you laugh too often.
Whether you win or lose a war is entirely dependent on your objectives in that war. USrael did not accomplish even on of their objectives - not one. Iran accomplished their one objective - to survive the onslaught.
Iran won. USrael lost.
Boom!
And as a bonus they gained more than they had before the cowardly attack.
A commonly overlooked fact. Iran has already replaced their losses in weaponry and even gained, so they have more now than they started with. USrael OTOH have decimated their supplies of standoff weaponry, the kind needed in this war, and it will likely take a decade if not more to replace them, IF they can even manage that.
The US is retreating to 'the old songs are the best songs' playbook of getting other parties- not real people- to fight and die for it. Bring on Syria and Al Jolani whose praises Trump has been heaping. Let him and his guys get stuck into Lebanon, Trump says, then Israel can back off out of it too.
These chaps are Sunni, Iran is Shi'ite, and so Trump hopes he can ignite some useful and profitable regional warfare displacing his ill starred intervention that was on the brink of turning everyone hostile to the US. The US can come back in for another go when Iran has had the edge buffed off it by native nutters. But the Arabs as well as the Persians have been on learning curve in this regard.......
Prepare the auditorium for Act 2.
Yeah, what a silly statement from Drumpf. AQ in Syria has fuck all military equipment left after the shitraelis destroyed it in the aftermath of Assad's ouster. Even if they wanted to be the attack dog they can not.
And Syria is not in any way a unified force, there being many competing factions, including a former military component that has remained hidden since being removed from power, but which is quietly working towards the right moment to cause trouble.
and Syria's long, porous border with Turkey.
And Turkiye would oppose their puppet Jolani doing such a thing. Especially since they are next on israels menu.
Reports were that the Syrian military went over the border to Iraq, and taking much equipment. But no details...it's gone down the memory hole.
Do you have any info about that Victor?
Sorry, no. I read something about it a while back which brought it mind, but I lost track of the source and haven't heard anything since. But at the time I was left with the distinct feeling that these people are communicating, organising and waiting for the right time to show themselves.
Time will tell.
the Syria-Iraq border remains volatile: last month Iraqi armed factions aligned with Iran "...have expanded their daily attacks on military sites and what they say are US interests in Iraq and the region to include Syrian territory..." - https://www.newarab.com/news/pro-iran-iraqi-militias-expand-attacks-syria
There are hints from multiple leaks.. that the losses US suffered are much worse than what we've figured out here. Just no obvious official confirmation, except from their utimate behavior - giving in to Iran's conditions. Will US adhere to the MOU? Unlikely... there's still deluded chicken hawks and dumbass neocons galore in the US... but the more rational folks have tried their best to keep whatever's left of the empire together... internal fractious war to come - in the US.
No one wants the cease fire but Trump (he may not secretly want it either). The Iranian population want revenge. The Israeli Zionists both in Israel and the JUSA want the elimination of Iran. And the US Zionists, Christian Zionists, and the Lindsey Grahams and Mark Levin's ALL want the war to continue. So yes, it will continue after a short intermission... Chip
Yup.. and in the meantime, full-on financial markets manipulation continues.... they're so transparent that even brain dead folks everywhere else can see it now.
I have my life savings in Canadian oil and gas stocks. You'd think I must be making a killing. They are manipulating those stock prices too and all we have to show for our wise foresight, is chump change.
Yup.. all the western financial markets are under full manipulation. Back in the Asian crisis (1996), oil fell to a low of $9. I called every broker online and off, and no one would sell to me at that price. I said I could even arrange storage.. just give me whatever you can… no deal. Aka the price was totally fake. But it’s what being repeated in MSM to give the plebs as sense that things aren’t blowing up.
Well the thing is, I and others in my position, are wondering what the fuck we invested in these companies for. The game is rigged.
Heh.. thought that was obvious since 2008? Seriously... the US strategic reserves are still being drawn down like crazy - and that's the main push that made Trump TACO-ed again. Brent/Wti now? under $80. Yeah right... oil fromm Hormuz will not reach their western markets if they start flowing now for a few more weeks.. and it ain't moving yet.
Can't win militarily, so we'll give you money to build stuff, with as many strings attached as we think we can get away with, $300 Billion is a nice start...
And this concerning the $300 billion...
"providing credit lines, direct financing, etc., to Iran."
That's a typical IMF type TRAP. Best for Iran to avoid that one... Chip
What a complete dog's breakfast this is. Trump and Netanyahu are just evil clowns. How can we allow people like this into head of state positions?! All of this useless war and destruction, which is then followed by reconstruction and reparations? Do you see how utterly insane this is? We are on a hijacked train that is being controlled by criminal psychopaths, and we are speeding towards our own destruction. The lunatics have indeed taken over the insane asylum and all innocent citizens will be turned into collateral damage as the end result. Israel and the USA should both be OUT of the Middle East. They are the problem. There will never be any form of stability in the ME until these two monsters are GONE.
They should be ousted of the international community, declared pariah states, banned from UN, international trade and travel restrictions to their citizens. No one should welcome genocidal maniacs and their helpers anywhere in the world.
They're at least now getting slowly aware of that the USrael-company are the most hated nations on earth and seen as a danger to mankind in opposite to China, that enjoys increasing appreciation among common people around the world and even in Europe.
the other day Israel's Ben-Gvir wanted to travel to the US, but was denied a visa (oops) - https://www.palestinechronicle.com/us-visa-difficulties-force-ben-gvir-to-cancel-trip-reports/
I don't hold my breath but thanks for the info anyway. Every positive news is welcome these days.
cracks in The Narrative: a breath of fresh air.
Read the article and be disillusioned...
I read the article, it doesn't say he was denied a visa by USA. It DOES say there were ethics concerns over the cost of trip being donated by a wealthy Israeli and the state didn't want to pay for his security staff for a private trip just to attend his rich buddy's wedding in USA...
That's what high ranking Freemasonry is all about.
"Should" never had anything to do with it.
So Iran, who is resistant to being told how to do anything, needs longer range ASBMs an SAMs. Even though this is a huge victory for them, not obliterating the tanker fleets on the ground, allowing the accumulations, and allowing the blockade to happen without sinking a single warship or downing with their AA even 1 large bomber are huge negatives. The blockade would have been ineffectual if the USN was forced 2,000km away from the coast, and there would be flights over Iran at all if they had mobile SAMs with even a 150km range.
It is also odd to me that it seems like Iran's extensive inventory of ISRs drones and other advanced drones/cruise missiles did not seem to get used.
Maybe they are looking very long and are saving those for the final battle, but for the most part I doubt it.
The next time America and Israel begin a mass accumulation, the IRGC needs to actually do something instead of just mindlessly absorbing the damage when they literally do not have to.