I still expect funding/aid to make it to Ukraine, simply because its too big a money pot to not send to various congressional districts and so on.
Republicans are - cynically - probably trying to get enough money to please their constituents, but not enough that Biden gets a win. They are plotting his demise next year. That, is more important than anything happening on the steppes of Ukraine.
In most any year, I would agree with you --- meaning that I would agree that the Republican resistance in Congress is more 'show' than 'go', and some kind of compromise 'fudge' is likely to result that allows some funding but not enough to really make a difference on the battlefield in Ukraine. However, this year, with MAGA congressional 'rebels' and an election year and the general state of 'rebellion' in the Republican Party (i.e. base vs. leadership and donors), anything is possible. The fact that Lindsey Graham and company have reversed their previous positions and now link Ukraine funding to US border policy changes is a symptom of how serious this internal MAGA / base pressure has become. The base (and alt-media) pressure for border measures, against the debt, against foreign wars and foreign aid in general, and against (what is perceived as) a 'traitorous' leadership class (which includes nearly all Republican Congressmen) is pretty strong and angry -- it may prevent all future funding for Ukraine. Time will tell.
There is also the possibility that "they" have gotten enough illegials into the US to staff whatever nefarious plan they have, and now want the wall closed to keep fleeing citizens in...could be wrong.
Comrade Sen.Turbin Durbin of Chicagostan said what many of us knew .... that the Illegal Border Invasion males will be "employed" by the USSa Pantygone as replacement troops.
Then these troops will be either cannon fodder in foreign wars or most likely Feral Mil/Polezi to subdue the Domestic "Deplorables".
It's all tin foil hat "conspiracy" until it knocks on your door, at which time it's way too late to mount an Effective defense.
CYA, conduct yourselves accordingly. Si vis pacem, para bellum aka 2nd Amendment "in full".
Yes, you may be quite right. It is difficult to think about, but after listening to this brave fellow I realize we must see the world and them for what we are facing.
This is an outdated view of war - it is certainly true that a section of the ruling class thinks that unskilled immigrants will serve as cannon fodder, as they have the US notably the 'North' during the Civil War
But the war in Ukraine has shown that real industrial warfare as conducted there by the Russians involves not only extremely well disciplined troops, but, increasingly sophisticated levels of training, backed up of course by massive industrialisation and levels of experience
- all of which the US fails to possess and possession of which would require discipline sense of purpose organisational skills cross class co ordination and trust together with a sense of determination as a nation state and as a 'people'
‘The Plan’ is merely the sum of propaganda pushed after the fact, no one section or faction of the dominant capitalist class has any other determination than to make the most money possible and to destroy any possible hindrance : these are the people who control the flow of capital
The governing class, politicians press & bureaucracy, are contracted to produce and publicise descriptions, justifications, explanations
The offshoring under discussion is that recently to China, but it has been a fixture of industrial capitalism in various forms for a long time, c.f. colonialism in general in India in particular etc etc
This is the structural imperative of capitalism, not careful plans hatched by this or that group
If money is made in large quantities no mistakes have been made
Infantry is infantry. You don't need to know rocket surgery to be a good infantryman, just have an unbroken body and enough discipline to not run away under fire. The SMCT (the basic US Army guide to infantry tasks) is simple enough that 80 IQ is sufficient to do the things required, maybe less. The motivated and more skilled can be NCOs and such.
Understanding commands is kinda important though, but the number of NCOs that understand Spanish is rather high. And citizenship in reward for military service is a real thing.
There are clearance issues - a noncitizen can't be granted a clearance, but not an issue if you are an E-1 to E-3 usually. Also, the security classification system on the battlefield is much fuzzier and ill-enforced than back in the hallowed halls.
What you write is incorrect, flippant and frivolous
If 'infantry is infantry' how come the US army can not fill their quotas, due to mental health, obesity, drug addictions, and so on and so on prevalent in the relevant age groups
You make war sound like child's play - it is ridiculous to state that fighting a war comes down to not running away
To recruit recent immigrants to fight your wars for you is not only ridiculous, arrogant, exploitative, but also guaranteed to fail – at least against an army such as the RF army
Perhaps your attitude is only to be expected in a country which has lost every war in living memory
but the Taliban "Won" not once, but twice. This is Not Two Valued logic, mutiple facts/strategies must be held Valid at the same time.
I agree the USSA military was set up to Fail in these NWO wars for profit & blood. But the Illegals in the New USSA military will mostly be used fighting a CW within the USSA, and the irony may be that is an optomistic view, if the patriots arise.
Whatever is coming next; It is upon us all in 2024 or even before. CYA= conduct yourselves accordingly. I wish you well.
Don't underestimate the public mood. We are sick to death of supporting war, war, war as our own country falls apart at home and abroad., The vast abuses of this regime in DC -- the political trials, the hounding of parents, the tracking of horrible Catholics, the pushing of life-changing mutilations to suit the woke agenda, the judges without judgment but all politics, our Gestapo and their masters at Lavrenty Beria Central Department of Justice, ordinary people who never lifted a finger and were passed into the US Capitol on Jan 6 languishing in prison -- it stinks, all of it, and people across the political spectrum have had enough. When you see those empty shells in Congress tipping over one by one in favor of some u-turn in policy, you know behind it are the people who vote. Now the US can no longer hide behind the myth that Ukraine is winning. And that is fatal. On top of not wanting to push war, we sure don't want another loser. And that is what Ukraine is for the US. Its Waterloo.
no, the voters matter only in an election year. unless, of course, you have already rigged the next election, in which case we are all up that proverbial creek without a paddle.
Yes, there is truth to that however between elections they do continue to gaslight us all to make ensure their money is well spent and will buy the influence they seek.
I agree donors don't care about the public, but they care how they distribute their money to buy influence. If the public is moving against a favorite they may choose to spend elsewhere to get what they want.
I'm afraid I share your view, although I think the pissing and moaning could easily turn to violence if this next national election even has a SNIFF of fraud and rigging. I do think that is a real possibility.
The public mood is that BOTH parties suck azz and don’t give flying f#ck about what we think. BOTH parties are spending us into the ruin of our nation, and it will be our downfall unless we start taking care of our own first. We do not have long as a nation if this doesn’t change. We can NOT keep funding the rest the world when our infrastructure, manufacturing and energy will no longer support our own citizens. We can bring nearly all our troops home, shutter and close 95% of our military bases outside the US, save BILLIONS and still grow our military and be strong.Mark my words, if this doesn’t change, we will be headed eventually to a civil war, because our government will go bankrupt and collapse.
Still a vast ignorant population in usa that is malleable to media propaganda The proof is how we got in this situation in the first place Fat comfortable people are lesss likely to see discomfort in the truths presented in front of them. This will all neeed to collapse similar to Soviet Union , Reality will need to present itself to all at the same time.
I would've used this, verbatim, for the book I published today, December 20, 2023 (titled "As America Crumbles...: A Grim Chronicle Exploring the Evil Source of America’s Catastrophic Decline") had I not had it at the typesetter, prepping the files for print.
Exactly. They can/will bluff on the border wall + immigration knowing that Biden will fold, since Ukraine is his white elephant. But then they will only give him enough to hang himself with.
Biden is asking many multiples for Ukraine what he is asking for Israel and has tried to tie Ukraine aid to Maui, Florida and Israel in order to get it through.
Did not Biden himself say that a politician's stated priorities can safely be ignored, but his budget will tell his real priorities?
I THINK THIS IS BIG. Did everyone notice that it was not Blinken or Biden who went to see Netanyahu but Musk, the richest man on earth, a prince of the world, with more influence than Biden. Perhaps predictable. Biden can't reign in (?) Netanyahu, but Must sets the rules for the WEF and Techies.
I like the short update. It gives me some time to catch up. I have dozens of things I want to do and can't find the time. Your Sitreps are mandatory reading for me though.
The MIC and the global corporate elite WILL get their way. Johnson is just making points. He'll get some pointless deal on the border and then give Biden all he wants and more. Doesn't much matter, Biden has stocked every borderline election district with illegals at this point anyway.
" It implies they aim to continue this war to the end and, unlike the West, are laying the real groundwork."
And what am I on record as saying since April,. 2022? That Russia intends to remove Ukraine from the board completely, and install a new Military District on the Polish and Romanian borders to counter the NATO Aegis Ashore installations - which can only be countered by playing Russian S-300/400/500 AD as close to those installations as possible - as well as any future NATO buildup which might threaten Russia.
In other words, in conjunction with this effort and the effort to integrate Belarus' military into the Russian military and the building of new Military Districts in northern Russia, Russia intends to build an "Iron Curtain 2.0" from the Black Sea to the Arctic, thus shutting out NATO forever - unless NATO wants to start a nuclear war - which Russia is also prepared for.
Face it, folks - Russia has been invaded or threatened by invasion by the West how many times in the last hundred or so years? Russia is saying, "Enough is enough. The West is the Enemy. We will not allow any further aggression."
This is why Russia is ramping up its military. It's going to need a half million troops, air bases with MiG-31Ks with Kinzhals, air defenses, a naval base in Odessa, etc., etc. in western Ukraine as well as in northern Russia. This is the ONLY way you counter NATO without resorting to invading Poland and Romania and Finland and everyone else.
And absolutely no one gets this but me. It's hilarious.
As for Zelensky being "despondent", let's hope he takes Hitler's way out and sticks a 9mm up his nose. Meanwhile I saw the Redacted Youtube channel today suggested Zelensky will be moved to the US and given US citizenship. Might as well, he already has a Miami mansion. And if he goes anywhere other than the US, the Russian will get to him. And I wouldn't give odds on his surviving in the US, either. If ever someone deserved assassination, it's Zelensky.
My concern if I were him is there are probably a lot of disgruntled Ukraine Jews in Israel and any one of them could be a problem for him.
I wonder if they will take him to the US, or if they will end him in the same manner so many others the US has supported have gone. Gaddafi comes to mind.
You forget that over 2.3 million who live in Israel are born Russian, think the cross dressing Nazi pervert, the Guevara, Castro wannabe will be safe in Zionist heaven, think again, Russian Jewry did not comprise a preponderance of zionists, they are first and foremost the vast majority of them, the Russian Jewish Israeli diaspora Jews, assiduously practicing and adhering to the religions tenets, I don’t think amongst that population of Russian Jews there will be many who love the Elinsky, he who outlawed and made illegal the use of the letter “Z”, the man’s a cluster, a walking disaster, deadman walking…
There are some who do, I acknowledge. But even most of the main pro-Russian analysts don't seem to. That includes The Duran guys, McGovern, Johnson, even Martyanov thinks Russia will hand western Ukraine over to NATO. I think Ritter and Macgregor are kind of 50-50. Everyone assumes Russia will stop at the Dnieper, is afraid of the western Ukrainians, and may or may not bother to take Kiev. The issue of the Aegis Ashore installations, which Putin has spoken about in several speeches, is mostly ignored.
All one has to do is just think about it: what is the most logical way for Russia to solve the issue of NATO encroachment? There's only one real 'military-technical" answer. If Russia doesn't do this, it will have effectively lost the war. I think Ritter said something to that effect one time.
I think Russia's reaction to Ukraine "arming" rhymes with what France and Great Britain should have done about Hitler moving 20000 combat ready troops/units into Rhineland in March 1936!
Russia waited 8 years? Let the "west" extend, w/o planning its "readiness".
Logistics is a problem for NATO, too long lines of communication, whether they have the "industry" is a big issue.
EUUS does not have an armaments industry that can produce anything other than overpriced underperforming airplanes, or tanks -both of which RF can easily counter
As for the basic requirements they can not produce the artillery shells, drones, missiles etc in anything near the quality and quantity required
Nor the men - the US population as the EU is overweight unfit and unprepared - their armies are small and untrained in industrial warfare, are basically policemen
Nor can they re industrialise - as per other comments in this post
They will continue to throw in what little they have, and they may even find some cash, but all this will be chewed up on arrival in Ukraine
Thats what the world said after WW2 and again during Nixon, Bush, Clinton etc.. Just wait 75 years and it will happen all over again. The issues of history repeat-- not the same way-- but they do.
The world did not say to the US right after WW2 that the US must re industrialise, nor, evidently, did the US make any successful nor serious attempt to do so
But you are correct in saying that from a peak of industrial production at that time the downhill slope in the US has been a constant -although the reverse in some other countries
The issues/events/facts of history are not those of re cyclical repetition, this is an outdated idealist theory reminiscent of the worst of German ideologies, but of transformations in which the struggle for domination and control remains a constant, and in which one dominant class mutates into a similar, while the poor get poorer (sauf exception intermittente)
wait 75 years to re industrialise? What does this mean?
It's a bold prediction, for sure. I think most people are basing it off the terms that Russia was amenable to during the negotiations in Istanbul, so it would stand to reason that if Russia was okay with X, they might take X+1 now.
The question of how they'd actually govern Ukraine, and the likelihood of the west continuing to infiltrate weapons, special forces, and saboteurs into Ukraine, is also difficult to answer.
However, it is not an impossibility that if more Ukrainians feel like they were betrayed and sacrificed by NATO into a losing war, that public sentiment could turn very sharply against the Banderites. To presume that Ukrainians will ALWAYS support them is not a given.
Correct. Not to mention that Russia has fought western Ukrainians in an insurgency before in the late '40s and early '50s and won, and since then have dealt with Chechnya and Syria insurgents. Been there, done that,. got the T-shirt - and the knowledge. Not to mention that today is the age of the drone - conduct a rural insurgency and you die. Conduct an urban insurgency - and you get to deal with Chechens and Wagner.
Once Russia and China and the central Asian states start rebuilding Ukraine, jobs return, the economy improves over the next decade or two, and most Ukrainians will accept integration into Russia. Those who don't will be identified - this is the age of the Internet social media, which Russia can surveill - detained and deported. Not a problem.
Interesting how Mr. Putin brought the Chechens into the federation virtually overnight. From my extremely limited understanding he just offered them basic control over their land if they would stop fighting or he was going to pull out all the stops. Win-win. Both sides came out winners so your theory about the remaining Western Ukrainians may hold water.
Everything from Izmayil through Havoron up to Chernoble will be forever Russia though. I think Poland will try and take some of the West and Belarus some of the North with Hungary nibbling at the South West. Romania seems pretty much owned by Yankeeland but if I was running Moldova I would be talking to Russia now because the map is going to change soon. Then again I am not a European and only know limited history from books.
Agree-- I wonder how much US taxpayers are going to be further on the hook for Blackrock, Dupont et al's losses re: agreements with Ukraine for either dumping chemicals or ownership of land.
I think about this- Russia was able to subjugate all the Warsaw pact countries for 50 years, and turned Chechnya into an ally, I also have to believe that many Ukrainian soldiers who surrendered hate the Z government , as do many wounded and demobilized Ukrainian soldiers. Yes, I could imagine a Ukraine -vs -Ukraine black ops conflict within a vast Russian controlled military district of former Ukraine, but this might be manageable in the short term and worth it in the long term, from a defense perspective.
Exactly. The overall requirement is Russia's security - and that threat comes from NATO outside Ukraine, not a limited insurgency inside Ukraine. People over-emphasize the insurgency threat, forgetting that Russia has been there and done that in Ukraine, Chechnya and Syria.
And also I've mentioned that an insurgency in these days of drone warfare is difficult to do. Insurgents can use drones, too, but only if the air defense of their opponents is poor, e.g., Saudis vs Houthis. A Russian Military District is going to have the best air defense in the world. Add to that the difficulty of running an insurgency in either rural or urban areas with drone surveillance and it becomes clear that threat is overstated. The CIA could run one cross-border from Poland or Romania - sending drones in from those countries - if they want to get Poland and Romania bombed.
But did Russia truly appreciate just how much the West wanted to carve them up , steal all their resources (cause thats what US war is ALWAYS about-- have to feed the debt after all), and subjugate them? It's always about money, resources and power. That's history
NATO doesn't run this negotiation business. The boys fighting it do. Arestovich is so clever, he positions himself now on the side of the "duped Ukrainians" with their stupid leaders who picked the wrong team to hitch themselves to. I'd guess Ukrainians' anger over this war and their losses must be reaching an open boil by now.
Not sure about the Duran guys-- they never stated it will be split. In fact they have many times discussed that Odessa and Kiev are impt. historical Russian cities, ie Russia wants them back. Don't confuse the guests they have - Columbia's finest former Russian economic hitman Jeffrey Sachs- as their view.
I disagree about the Duran team. I'm pretty sure I've heard Mercouris assume both that negotiations were likely and that they would result in a split Ukraine. That seems to be his preference since he's big on negotiations. He doesn't care what the end result is as long as people stop dying. Whereas I don't want to see Russia do something stupid and have to start a new war all over again in six months or six years. If half of Ukraine has to die before they "get it", well, that's on the Ukrainians for not "getting it."
I have recently seen a book on Sachs which reportedly covers his previous activities, although I didn't bother to read it. I don't find Sachs that useful simply because - like most of the analysts who have actual government experience - he can go "only so far" in his analyses. The prime example is his recommendation that the UN simply recognize Palestine as a state. Whoop-de-doo! Now what do we do when Israel refuses to recognize that and the US supports Israel? No comment from Sachs. It's easy to just say - as most do - "two-state solution" - and then refuse to drill down into what that actually means and how to actually achieve it. The Devil is in the details, as they say.
This is "CYA" stuff. One gets to show "moral superiority" without actually solving anything. Since I come from a "no morality" and "human life means absolutely nothing" approach, but instead an "actions and consequences" approach. I can see through this stuff instantly.
what you touch upon also relates to the manifestation of a new world paradigm, this has been variously referred to as the "three headed dragon"
As the west infected as it is by a deranged psycopathic religious death cult seeks (covertly not overtly) the rise af a new era via an outmoded, spent pseudo luciferian prophecy, the options for the other team have become limited.
Right, i appreciate that sounds cryptic, but we need to understand the funders of, the relevance of and the proposed outcome of, the "scofield study bible" over american and thus up to this time "world" politics, that being the placement of satans representative on earth throned at temple mount/al aqusa.
Fundamental zionist christianity has until recently dictated the movement of and the ulitimate outcome of world management, from the compliance shown at 9/11 and onward through covert 19.
freemasonry and western politics have been bound in a death struggle since the "creation" of modern day america and its crucial role in the "great work of ages", it has given license to steal, rape, murder, torture to generation after generation of "progressives" in western societies whilst all the time undermining the foundations of the very "gains" they make.
Realising that the west is in a self inflicted death grip (one could even say self imposed "mort-gage") gives insight as to the insanity as we approach the final chapters...
The three headed dragon faced with such insanity watches keenly the destruction of the westen societies by the parasites that live within it (soros et al) and seeks "decontamination" afore the stink of the rotting carcass speads to its own shores...
Summed up we are speaking of emp not nuclear fision, the resultant has been fantasised by creations such as "walking dead" and never underestimate the relevance of "fiction" be it Tolkein, Huxley or hellywood
The sheer inability of pampered western nations to survive even the shortage of toilet paper let alone fuel, electric and running water shows us how quick the slide from "grace" would be..
An insight into the relevance of the "scofiled study bible can be found here"
the fact that uk citizens are being told to stock up on candles tells us dwellers of the "sertic isles" that all the years of meddling in Russias affairs may well soon "bear fruit"
Seems obvious to me, if for no other reason than to deny Blackrock, Monsanto et al from enjoying their ill-gotten gains. No breadbasket for you boys. Future Ukraine feeds the South, not the West.
Nonsense. Russia anticipates a sea-change in European politics that will realign Europe with Russia. They feel rightly or wrongly (mostly rightly, but not entirely) that most Western European governments are U.S. vassals, but that the crunch of immigration, lack of industrial capacity and job growth, and the European elites' self-destructive energy policies will lead to popular upheaval and new governments in most European states.
Why do I say this? Because Putin is rational and tends to act in the best interest of his nation. He assumes that other nations, while they may act irrationally in the short-term, will eventually act in their own self-interest. The interests of Europe are to establish sound trade relations with Russia and the former Soviet Republics in order to acquire energy and raw materials to refurbish the diminished capacity of European factories. This has been the German foreign policy objective since the age of steam: to acquire resources in the east via trade or conquest. Conquest is off the table, so trade is the only feasible route.
In this, I think Putin is absolutely correct. Europe is going to have a major upheaval and sea change in their governments: sooner rather than later. The signs are everywhere from the recent Irish protests to the gilets jaunes in France to the emergence of the AfD in Germany to the victory of Geertz Wilder's PVV.
It is best for Putin to play the long game. Russia has always, throughout its history, pivoted from partnerships and alliance with East then the West then back again. It will continue to do so with a pivot West as Nato and the EU, as its currently configured, collapse under the weight of their own self-destructive energy policies, their de-industrialization, and their social welfare system, which is currently being overloaded by African immigrants.
You are extremely naive about the US reaction to any such changes given the pivotal period between Unipolarity and Multipolarity we are in, no Empire gives up easily. The UK is already taken care of with the political assassination of Corbyn, the AfD may turn into another Meloni once they get their meeting with the BND and CIA. No elections in France until 2027. Plus all the Western European elites are extremely Atlantacist. Romania is like a NATO fiefdom. Russia will need to go all the way, and that's why Putin is ramping up the military so much, he understands after two decades of attempting to court the West and getting repeatedly smacked in the face. Merkel and the others owning up to the perfidy with respect to Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 made Europe non-agreement capable in Russian eyes.
It's one thing to bluster and threaten like the US does so well. It's another to have the power, money and resources to back it up. They dont-- Clinton gave it away with NAFTA and subsequent govts have neglected everything in the US except puffed up, overblown military spending and varying forms of spooks. If the US was a confident mid empire (timing) nation then why focus on censoring and controlling its own citizens so much?
Yes. At this point, the real power that the U.S. government has is based only on the petrodollar and nuclear weapons. Their conventional forces are obsolete and incapable of little more than tossing pebbles at the Eurasian landmass. The petrodollar is fast disappearing owing to all sorts of U.S. foreign policy debacles from turning Iraq over to the Shias to using the petrodollar as an economic weapon against too many resource-rich countries. What use is a currency if one cannot buy the things one needs with it? All that is left is the nuclear threat, and what is that threat? We get to win the game or we flip over the board and send all the pieces flying?
Moreover, the U.S. is a presidential election away from disbanding NATO. Trump is speaking to a majority when he speaks about withdrawing the U.S. from NATO and withdrawing from many of the overseas bases. Why do you think Kagan and Nuland et al are so apoplectic about his return? The empire is on very shaky ground indeed when they must try to suppress, censor, and incarcerate more than one half their own population in order to maintain control.
Right now the US's real power in its proxy Israel which is a nuclear terrorist state. It has not only threatened Iran with nuclear attack, but it has already used tactical nuclear weapons on its neighbors according to Veterans Today. It has already attacked the US as part of the US, Saudi, Mossad intelligence collective that pulled off 911. Remember the US Liberty. They are the most dangerous threat to peace on earth there is, and Netanyahu is a war criminal They could set off a false flag and blame Russia, or whatever is required to get us all killed. .That seems to be their goal, to take us all to hell. Regime change in Israel.
I agree. U.S. unconditional support for Israel will be its ultimate undoing. A major power cannot allow regional proxies to run its foreign policy and remain a major power. Ask the Romans about their "friends of Rome" policy. If the U.S. wants to continue to support Israel, the U.S. must dictate, in clear terms, exactly what Israel can and cannot do, The endless expansion of settlements in the West Bank and the current ethnic cleansing of Gaza cross lines that should have demarcated the end of all U.S. support for Israel. Instead Israel does as it pleases, and the U.S. is drawn into what promises to became an ever widening war as a result. Netanyahu should be unacceptable to the U.S. as a leader of Israel, and they should have told Israel, long ago, Netanyahu goes, or we take our ball and go home.
I don't think that you are being naive -- but just laying out one set of possibilities --- actually, I think you are laying out 'the best case' scenario: Europe rebels from the dominant US (actually WEF / NWO elite that controls the 'West') and rebuilds its economy and society with Russian energy and raw materials. As Roger Boyd points out in response to you, it could be worse (i.e. a kinetic 'fight' over Europe between the forces of the West and Russia). I don't think that such a kinetic scenario is likely because with nuclear weapons and historical precedents & promises, such a fight will likely be nuclear and catastrophic. At least I hope that calmer heads and better luck prevails and that such a kinetic scenario won't happen. However, there is also a third option: a European future of 'meh' (neither revolt/renaissance or kinetic conflict). In this third way, Europe may 'rebel' from the dominating club of the West but not 'rebuild' -- it just stagnates with high energy prices, demographic collapse, economic de-industrialization. Like China after 1500 or the Arab world after the Crusades, Europe may just become a global backwater of former glory and missed potential.: An increasingly poor and economically and technologically irrelevant geographic peninsula on the greater Eurasian land mass. Unfortunately, I think that this path is the path of least resistance and applicable to both the current European trajectory (vassal of the 'West') or potential future (populist revolt against those Western elites). I say this because the European demographic change, migration impact, and cultural transformation may already be too far advanced to stop without a really strong and sustained revival effort that far exceeds what the 'populist' pr 'patriot' forces in Europe can bring to the party. The 'rot' may be too far gone even if the populists 'succeed'.
Yes. It is not that Europe is a vassal of the U.S. so much as most Western governments, including the U.S. government, are vassals of an oligarch class that spans continents and is not loyal or concerned with the interests or fate of any particular nation. It is absolutely pivotal that one understands this, and I am certain that Putin does. Once one understands this, one understands why Putin would be reasonable to expect opportunities to pivot West diplomatically in the near future.
Such a pivot is what he has tried to do throughout his time as president in Russia, and I doubt that he has given up on that just because Blackrock, Vanguard, Goldman Sachs, UBS and Deutschebank paid Victoria Nuland, Robert Kagan, Angela Merkel, and Jens Stoltenburg to run Europe into the ground in an effort to bring back the heady days of 1994 when every two-bit finance capitalist was playing roulette with every asset of the former Soviet Union.
And I would add that to assume ALL of Europe has to go together towards a BRICS/Russia sphere is silly. All it takes is 5 countries to go to weaken either or NATO or EU-- then the rest follow as their woke, Ursula? loving neighbourhood countries see that the grass is greener-- or that their living standard is better.
The 'meh' scenario you outline is more likely than any pivots of "Europe" from USA to Asia. I especially find it unlikely that Russia could make such a pivot happen.
But for my money, the most likely outcome for Europe (and USA, and presumably also China and Russia) is a cyberpunk digital gulag. This envisions complete suckery and basically the return of the iron age slave society, just with all the modern technologies. TBH, it'll probably be worse than 2500 years ago. The opportunities for preventing this from happening are few. Breaking cryptography would be a major move in the right direction but (a) it's not yet clear if we live in a Universe where that is possible or not and (b) even without cryptography the cyberpunk dystopia could still be constructed - it'll just be different. Nevertheless, without cryptography the dystopia would be less sucky and less stable. The essential preventative move is self-edification. People need to be upright, not be glued to their screens, not be addicted to Facebook and Instagram, not read news from Twitter botfarms, not get their info from Google searches, not use credit cards or debit cards, not get into debt, not jerk off or fuck whomever, not do drugs, study all kinds of sciences and crafts and arts, work out, fraternize, socialize, and make and bring up babies. And... they need to pray to God Almighty.
But we all know Europeans are atheists. So are many others all over the world.
And so the new Age of Slavery will probably set. Europe will lead the way, but USA, Russia and China will probably be right behind. If we who try as much as we can to escape this new system could all get together in some corner of the world, on Earth or in space, we might be able to create a land of freemen. Sadly I think we'll not congregate. So then the solution would be to up the ante on those self-edification measures ever more. Perhaps, if you accumulate enough knowhow you could collapse your brain into a knowledge black hole and emerge into the world as wizard, able to use your nimble fingers to fashion items to protect you against the onslaught of slavery. Well, that's my approach. Attempt to create a knowledge singularity in my brain.
Given that a united Europe is Yankeelands greatest fear it will be using every dirty underhand tactic it can to prevent that. That is why it has such a stronghold on Germany because the very last thing it wants is the resources and talent of Russia working with the industrialisation of Germany.
This is the singular thing that has provided some semblance of reason and rhyme to U.S. foreign policy post WWII. Everything else is merely oligarchs buying favors from the State Department and Jewish nationals subverting U.S. foreign policy to benefit Israel. The only constant is a desire to prevent Russia from supplying Germany oil and the two states to become economic partners. The obsession with a German-Russian dominated Eurasian landmass is an obsession that dates back to the British Empire.
he attempts to remove Basshar al Assad in Syria, for example, is to get right of way for pipelines to Germany from Saudi Arabia. The obsession with Ukraine is to get control of the pipelines from Russia to Europe. Notice that one of the first act of this war was the destruction of Nordstream?
Trying to prevent this natural union, however, from the other side of the world is like trying to stop water from flowing to the sea. You can build dams, dikes, ditches, and reservoirs, but sooner or later, the water is going to get to the sea.
Great point about the obsession dating back to the British Empire-- yup it started there and given the historical significance of the "City of London" and its ties to the same twisted political elite in the US-- this is more of a tag team effort than most people realize.
A genuinely independent and geopolitically coherent EU would have been a financial and technological superpower, and arguably, would have the #1 greatest competitor to the US.
This possibility, with only shaky viability to begin with, has now been definitively killed, chopped up into tiny pieces, burned, buried, and anything that isn't ashes is currently decomposing - never to see the light of day again.
My God if only this were true! I have long suspected that US foreign policy has been to talk friendly to Europe while acting to destabilise it. Middle East wars a failure? EU migration crises. LGBTQ? Geopolitical weapon to foment division, friction and create fundable political groups, authoritarian anti hate speech power grabs. Etc etc. I do see some resistance and the great pendulum swinging back the other way, but it will be years if at all before the Western sheeple stop watching the news and learn to see the EU as a desirable, standalone, superpower they should be part of, with a cultural and historical alignment with Russia.
It is not that the U.S. wants to destabilize Europe. The U.S. wants to keep Europe from becoming dependent upon Russian oil. Most of the instability in Europe is the doing of European technocrats and the self-loathing Germans who thought it would be a great idea to import half of Africa into Europe to solve their pension fund problems. Of course, the Africans have no serviceable skills aside from serving coffee, so rather than solving the social-welfare pension crisis, they have exacerbated it exponentially.
Likewise, it is Europeans who have convinced themselves that they have to abandon modern life and the cheap energy that makes it possible, to the delight, no doubt, of the U.S. State Department. John Kerry has done his best to sell Europeans and even U.S. on the idea that the entire West has to abandon cheap energy and return to the bronze age because the sky is falling or getting hot or something. But no one in Europe cares what John Kerry says... now... Greta Thunberg... well... she is the bees knees. What intelligent, sophisticated Dutchman would not want to completely reorder the entire society and economy of the West based on the opinions of a semi-autistic teenager who dropped out of high-school.
At the time there was a coordinated intense media campaign to open the borders to migrants. Migrants were portrayed as innocent refugees, drowning in boats, and anyone cruel enough to deny their entry was deemed a racist nazi. Popular music absorbed this and popular artists produced songs and videos that amplified the message. The UK readily adopted the open border policy and pointed at others who did not from a position of moral authority. Back then it was Angela Merkel who resisted. She was attacked and demonised by the press and her peers. It affected public opinion. The mass manipulated populace in the climate created by Western media were practically clammering for African and Islamic immigration. Of course, when Teflon Merkel finally capitulated that was the beginning of the end for both Germany and herself. In the meantime the UK got busy on the Brexit path, while the media highlighted that the economic and social woes of mismanaged immigration were all the result of EU policy! The entire story is a US centric attack on the EU by directing victims of US wars to migrate there and cause social disruption and erosion of national and cultural identity.
I think people need to see govts as companies in the same industry. Competing for the top job, the top economy and the most resources--like the game of Monopoly 😊. All done by morally frail human beings who are looking to prove to the world they are the best. So of course that is whats happening !!!
Yet word coming out from Russian leadership is that the Europeans are no longer wanted as trading partners, ever. And the only western nation they will enter into any agreement with is the US, and that will only happen in due time.
I will bet money that the Russians will deal with their historical partners-- the US WAY before they go back to Europe. With a return to sanity (ie get rid of Dems) it will be practically easier to do-- one leader, one govt (please don't tell me the EU govt is the same-- really?) . Also can the Russians really forgive Europe or trust a Herr Merkel ever again? Putin is Mr. Practical which is one of the reasons I respect and admire him. If he ever deals directly with Europe again it will be one country at a time (ie like Hungary)
They may in time, but going by Putin's recent speech (link below), they are in no rush to do so. And true, why open any dialogue with the EU, they do what the US tells them to do in spite of the harm it does to their nations.
Don't put much store by the GOP though, they talk but do nothing, the decisions are made by the deep state. And the deep state is all about war, I believe we will be attacking Venezuela shortly, yes over oil, gas fields.
I do see some nations over time breaking with the EU and going with the BRICS, but Ukraine needs to be sorted out before that happens, probably 3, 4 years from now.
Sooner , things will speed up in this coming year. Like election in Ukraine ?
Election in the USA ? We are living in borrowed time , keeping up with the fast growing unhappy citizens with printed money . The money which is only supported with a hypnotizing word . TRUST ???.
As for elections, I see none in Ukraine until the infighting between the two Zs is decided, or Russia takes all.
In the US, I see several possibilities:
1. they use a FF to cancel the election for a year or two, so they can run their EMP strike and currency crash, 2. they rig it yet again, 3. they let Trump win, the day he is installed, they do a major EMP strike, crash the economy and tank the currency.
I am ok with item 3., at least you know what you've got with Trump, he would put his back to it to save the country. Anyone else would just sell the country off by the acre probably to Blackrock.
As a European subject myself, i would say that we are unfortunately faaar away from a "sea change" in European politics. "Alternative" parties like the Fratelli, AfD, Vox, LePen, etc are either coopted by the PTB from the very start or they "get an offer they can resist" once they are close to power.
Putin better get a big dose of patience if he wants to wait until the current European leaders get deposed...
As I've commented in my last post, the US can still do a lot of control on the cheap, especially in regions were it has been hegemonic for decades.
LOL this sad cunt just keeps on keeping on with it's pathetic calls for woteva.
John you are a clown, a fool, a little man desperate for attention.
Most definitely going to own Odessa
I still expect funding/aid to make it to Ukraine, simply because its too big a money pot to not send to various congressional districts and so on.
Republicans are - cynically - probably trying to get enough money to please their constituents, but not enough that Biden gets a win. They are plotting his demise next year. That, is more important than anything happening on the steppes of Ukraine.
In most any year, I would agree with you --- meaning that I would agree that the Republican resistance in Congress is more 'show' than 'go', and some kind of compromise 'fudge' is likely to result that allows some funding but not enough to really make a difference on the battlefield in Ukraine. However, this year, with MAGA congressional 'rebels' and an election year and the general state of 'rebellion' in the Republican Party (i.e. base vs. leadership and donors), anything is possible. The fact that Lindsey Graham and company have reversed their previous positions and now link Ukraine funding to US border policy changes is a symptom of how serious this internal MAGA / base pressure has become. The base (and alt-media) pressure for border measures, against the debt, against foreign wars and foreign aid in general, and against (what is perceived as) a 'traitorous' leadership class (which includes nearly all Republican Congressmen) is pretty strong and angry -- it may prevent all future funding for Ukraine. Time will tell.
I hope you're right
There is also the possibility that "they" have gotten enough illegials into the US to staff whatever nefarious plan they have, and now want the wall closed to keep fleeing citizens in...could be wrong.
Comrade Sen.Turbin Durbin of Chicagostan said what many of us knew .... that the Illegal Border Invasion males will be "employed" by the USSa Pantygone as replacement troops.
Then these troops will be either cannon fodder in foreign wars or most likely Feral Mil/Polezi to subdue the Domestic "Deplorables".
It's all tin foil hat "conspiracy" until it knocks on your door, at which time it's way too late to mount an Effective defense.
CYA, conduct yourselves accordingly. Si vis pacem, para bellum aka 2nd Amendment "in full".
Yes, I saw Durbin saying that, and I agree with you, they will be used internally.
He is the same guy who block release of Epstein's flight log a few days ago. My guess is at least 50% of congress is compromised, possibly more.
80%, possibly more, imo.
Yes, you may be quite right. It is difficult to think about, but after listening to this brave fellow I realize we must see the world and them for what we are facing.
https://www.youtube.com/@dvmtv7961
This is an outdated view of war - it is certainly true that a section of the ruling class thinks that unskilled immigrants will serve as cannon fodder, as they have the US notably the 'North' during the Civil War
But the war in Ukraine has shown that real industrial warfare as conducted there by the Russians involves not only extremely well disciplined troops, but, increasingly sophisticated levels of training, backed up of course by massive industrialisation and levels of experience
- all of which the US fails to possess and possession of which would require discipline sense of purpose organisational skills cross class co ordination and trust together with a sense of determination as a nation state and as a 'people'
-All of which are anathema to the US ruling class
So the enthusiastic Offshoring (Free Trade) of U.S. Industrial knowledge, Factories was a Mistake? Or part of the Plan?
‘The Plan’ is merely the sum of propaganda pushed after the fact, no one section or faction of the dominant capitalist class has any other determination than to make the most money possible and to destroy any possible hindrance : these are the people who control the flow of capital
The governing class, politicians press & bureaucracy, are contracted to produce and publicise descriptions, justifications, explanations
The offshoring under discussion is that recently to China, but it has been a fixture of industrial capitalism in various forms for a long time, c.f. colonialism in general in India in particular etc etc
This is the structural imperative of capitalism, not careful plans hatched by this or that group
If money is made in large quantities no mistakes have been made
Infantry is infantry. You don't need to know rocket surgery to be a good infantryman, just have an unbroken body and enough discipline to not run away under fire. The SMCT (the basic US Army guide to infantry tasks) is simple enough that 80 IQ is sufficient to do the things required, maybe less. The motivated and more skilled can be NCOs and such.
Understanding commands is kinda important though, but the number of NCOs that understand Spanish is rather high. And citizenship in reward for military service is a real thing.
There are clearance issues - a noncitizen can't be granted a clearance, but not an issue if you are an E-1 to E-3 usually. Also, the security classification system on the battlefield is much fuzzier and ill-enforced than back in the hallowed halls.
What you write is incorrect, flippant and frivolous
If 'infantry is infantry' how come the US army can not fill their quotas, due to mental health, obesity, drug addictions, and so on and so on prevalent in the relevant age groups
You make war sound like child's play - it is ridiculous to state that fighting a war comes down to not running away
To recruit recent immigrants to fight your wars for you is not only ridiculous, arrogant, exploitative, but also guaranteed to fail – at least against an army such as the RF army
Perhaps your attitude is only to be expected in a country which has lost every war in living memory
but the Taliban "Won" not once, but twice. This is Not Two Valued logic, mutiple facts/strategies must be held Valid at the same time.
I agree the USSA military was set up to Fail in these NWO wars for profit & blood. But the Illegals in the New USSA military will mostly be used fighting a CW within the USSA, and the irony may be that is an optomistic view, if the patriots arise.
Whatever is coming next; It is upon us all in 2024 or even before. CYA= conduct yourselves accordingly. I wish you well.
I don't think it's so much MAGA/base pressure as much as it is the desire to hand Biden an L in Ukraine.
This. With the correction "desire to hand Biden *and the Democrats* an L in Ukraine".
Yes maybe - but why not get Trump elected first?
Don't underestimate the public mood. We are sick to death of supporting war, war, war as our own country falls apart at home and abroad., The vast abuses of this regime in DC -- the political trials, the hounding of parents, the tracking of horrible Catholics, the pushing of life-changing mutilations to suit the woke agenda, the judges without judgment but all politics, our Gestapo and their masters at Lavrenty Beria Central Department of Justice, ordinary people who never lifted a finger and were passed into the US Capitol on Jan 6 languishing in prison -- it stinks, all of it, and people across the political spectrum have had enough. When you see those empty shells in Congress tipping over one by one in favor of some u-turn in policy, you know behind it are the people who vote. Now the US can no longer hide behind the myth that Ukraine is winning. And that is fatal. On top of not wanting to push war, we sure don't want another loser. And that is what Ukraine is for the US. Its Waterloo.
Since when did public opinion start to matter?
I think a pol could tell you that. It's like an insect's antennae: out there sniffing for food or famine.
Mrrwop?
When donors stop reaching for their wallets.
In other words, it's not the public that matters, unless that happens to align with what donors want.
Until the lower classes and the general public get so p**** off with the dominant class that..... PS It's happened before
no, the voters matter only in an election year. unless, of course, you have already rigged the next election, in which case we are all up that proverbial creek without a paddle.
There are a lot of ways to manage that.
Yes, there is truth to that however between elections they do continue to gaslight us all to make ensure their money is well spent and will buy the influence they seek.
I agree donors don't care about the public, but they care how they distribute their money to buy influence. If the public is moving against a favorite they may choose to spend elsewhere to get what they want.
generally it affects individual candidates, but a boycott of donors for both parties would be grand.
They don't give a damn about the "public mood". They can fix elections and they know that people will continue to moan and do nothing.
I'm afraid I share your view, although I think the pissing and moaning could easily turn to violence if this next national election even has a SNIFF of fraud and rigging. I do think that is a real possibility.
The public mood is that BOTH parties suck azz and don’t give flying f#ck about what we think. BOTH parties are spending us into the ruin of our nation, and it will be our downfall unless we start taking care of our own first. We do not have long as a nation if this doesn’t change. We can NOT keep funding the rest the world when our infrastructure, manufacturing and energy will no longer support our own citizens. We can bring nearly all our troops home, shutter and close 95% of our military bases outside the US, save BILLIONS and still grow our military and be strong.Mark my words, if this doesn’t change, we will be headed eventually to a civil war, because our government will go bankrupt and collapse.
Still a vast ignorant population in usa that is malleable to media propaganda The proof is how we got in this situation in the first place Fat comfortable people are lesss likely to see discomfort in the truths presented in front of them. This will all neeed to collapse similar to Soviet Union , Reality will need to present itself to all at the same time.
I would've used this, verbatim, for the book I published today, December 20, 2023 (titled "As America Crumbles...: A Grim Chronicle Exploring the Evil Source of America’s Catastrophic Decline") had I not had it at the typesetter, prepping the files for print.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CQR71WN3
Your second paragraph is the real reason funding is being held up. Team R wants Biden to get an embarrassing L.
Exactly. They can/will bluff on the border wall + immigration knowing that Biden will fold, since Ukraine is his white elephant. But then they will only give him enough to hang himself with.
Biden is asking many multiples for Ukraine what he is asking for Israel and has tried to tie Ukraine aid to Maui, Florida and Israel in order to get it through.
Did not Biden himself say that a politician's stated priorities can safely be ignored, but his budget will tell his real priorities?
Indeed. I should have said blue and yellow elephant, too
Ukraine will get a reduced amount in this round and maybe more next year.
More likely than not you are correct. Team R wants to embarrass Biden but doesn't want to be blamed.
Yes
I THINK THIS IS BIG. Did everyone notice that it was not Blinken or Biden who went to see Netanyahu but Musk, the richest man on earth, a prince of the world, with more influence than Biden. Perhaps predictable. Biden can't reign in (?) Netanyahu, but Must sets the rules for the WEF and Techies.
I like the short update. It gives me some time to catch up. I have dozens of things I want to do and can't find the time. Your Sitreps are mandatory reading for me though.
The MIC and the global corporate elite WILL get their way. Johnson is just making points. He'll get some pointless deal on the border and then give Biden all he wants and more. Doesn't much matter, Biden has stocked every borderline election district with illegals at this point anyway.
" It implies they aim to continue this war to the end and, unlike the West, are laying the real groundwork."
And what am I on record as saying since April,. 2022? That Russia intends to remove Ukraine from the board completely, and install a new Military District on the Polish and Romanian borders to counter the NATO Aegis Ashore installations - which can only be countered by playing Russian S-300/400/500 AD as close to those installations as possible - as well as any future NATO buildup which might threaten Russia.
In other words, in conjunction with this effort and the effort to integrate Belarus' military into the Russian military and the building of new Military Districts in northern Russia, Russia intends to build an "Iron Curtain 2.0" from the Black Sea to the Arctic, thus shutting out NATO forever - unless NATO wants to start a nuclear war - which Russia is also prepared for.
Face it, folks - Russia has been invaded or threatened by invasion by the West how many times in the last hundred or so years? Russia is saying, "Enough is enough. The West is the Enemy. We will not allow any further aggression."
This is why Russia is ramping up its military. It's going to need a half million troops, air bases with MiG-31Ks with Kinzhals, air defenses, a naval base in Odessa, etc., etc. in western Ukraine as well as in northern Russia. This is the ONLY way you counter NATO without resorting to invading Poland and Romania and Finland and everyone else.
And absolutely no one gets this but me. It's hilarious.
As for Zelensky being "despondent", let's hope he takes Hitler's way out and sticks a 9mm up his nose. Meanwhile I saw the Redacted Youtube channel today suggested Zelensky will be moved to the US and given US citizenship. Might as well, he already has a Miami mansion. And if he goes anywhere other than the US, the Russian will get to him. And I wouldn't give odds on his surviving in the US, either. If ever someone deserved assassination, it's Zelensky.
Zelenskyy has a couple of mansions and a hefty bank account in Israel.
Not with an Israeli war on he won't.
My concern if I were him is there are probably a lot of disgruntled Ukraine Jews in Israel and any one of them could be a problem for him.
I wonder if they will take him to the US, or if they will end him in the same manner so many others the US has supported have gone. Gaddafi comes to mind.
You forget that over 2.3 million who live in Israel are born Russian, think the cross dressing Nazi pervert, the Guevara, Castro wannabe will be safe in Zionist heaven, think again, Russian Jewry did not comprise a preponderance of zionists, they are first and foremost the vast majority of them, the Russian Jewish Israeli diaspora Jews, assiduously practicing and adhering to the religions tenets, I don’t think amongst that population of Russian Jews there will be many who love the Elinsky, he who outlawed and made illegal the use of the letter “Z”, the man’s a cluster, a walking disaster, deadman walking…
Who says the Russians cant get him in the US. Never say never. I love Russia's long game.
> And absolutely no one gets this but me. It's hilarious.
It's lonely at the top. Just to be clear: I also don't get it. :)
There are some who do, I acknowledge. But even most of the main pro-Russian analysts don't seem to. That includes The Duran guys, McGovern, Johnson, even Martyanov thinks Russia will hand western Ukraine over to NATO. I think Ritter and Macgregor are kind of 50-50. Everyone assumes Russia will stop at the Dnieper, is afraid of the western Ukrainians, and may or may not bother to take Kiev. The issue of the Aegis Ashore installations, which Putin has spoken about in several speeches, is mostly ignored.
All one has to do is just think about it: what is the most logical way for Russia to solve the issue of NATO encroachment? There's only one real 'military-technical" answer. If Russia doesn't do this, it will have effectively lost the war. I think Ritter said something to that effect one time.
RF is bleeding NATO dry - RF is bleeding EU dry, US is bleeding itself dry -
NATO 'encroachment' is a pipe dream
I think Russia's reaction to Ukraine "arming" rhymes with what France and Great Britain should have done about Hitler moving 20000 combat ready troops/units into Rhineland in March 1936!
Russia waited 8 years? Let the "west" extend, w/o planning its "readiness".
Logistics is a problem for NATO, too long lines of communication, whether they have the "industry" is a big issue.
Does US have the industry base to mobilize?
EUUS does not have an armaments industry that can produce anything other than overpriced underperforming airplanes, or tanks -both of which RF can easily counter
As for the basic requirements they can not produce the artillery shells, drones, missiles etc in anything near the quality and quantity required
Nor the men - the US population as the EU is overweight unfit and unprepared - their armies are small and untrained in industrial warfare, are basically policemen
Nor can they re industrialise - as per other comments in this post
They will continue to throw in what little they have, and they may even find some cash, but all this will be chewed up on arrival in Ukraine
Thats what the world said after WW2 and again during Nixon, Bush, Clinton etc.. Just wait 75 years and it will happen all over again. The issues of history repeat-- not the same way-- but they do.
The world did not say to the US right after WW2 that the US must re industrialise, nor, evidently, did the US make any successful nor serious attempt to do so
But you are correct in saying that from a peak of industrial production at that time the downhill slope in the US has been a constant -although the reverse in some other countries
The issues/events/facts of history are not those of re cyclical repetition, this is an outdated idealist theory reminiscent of the worst of German ideologies, but of transformations in which the struggle for domination and control remains a constant, and in which one dominant class mutates into a similar, while the poor get poorer (sauf exception intermittente)
wait 75 years to re industrialise? What does this mean?
It's a bold prediction, for sure. I think most people are basing it off the terms that Russia was amenable to during the negotiations in Istanbul, so it would stand to reason that if Russia was okay with X, they might take X+1 now.
The question of how they'd actually govern Ukraine, and the likelihood of the west continuing to infiltrate weapons, special forces, and saboteurs into Ukraine, is also difficult to answer.
However, it is not an impossibility that if more Ukrainians feel like they were betrayed and sacrificed by NATO into a losing war, that public sentiment could turn very sharply against the Banderites. To presume that Ukrainians will ALWAYS support them is not a given.
Correct. Not to mention that Russia has fought western Ukrainians in an insurgency before in the late '40s and early '50s and won, and since then have dealt with Chechnya and Syria insurgents. Been there, done that,. got the T-shirt - and the knowledge. Not to mention that today is the age of the drone - conduct a rural insurgency and you die. Conduct an urban insurgency - and you get to deal with Chechens and Wagner.
Once Russia and China and the central Asian states start rebuilding Ukraine, jobs return, the economy improves over the next decade or two, and most Ukrainians will accept integration into Russia. Those who don't will be identified - this is the age of the Internet social media, which Russia can surveill - detained and deported. Not a problem.
You might be right. The "Free Russian Legion" and "Anti Putin Partisans" in Belgorod earlier didn't last very long at all 😂
Interesting how Mr. Putin brought the Chechens into the federation virtually overnight. From my extremely limited understanding he just offered them basic control over their land if they would stop fighting or he was going to pull out all the stops. Win-win. Both sides came out winners so your theory about the remaining Western Ukrainians may hold water.
Everything from Izmayil through Havoron up to Chernoble will be forever Russia though. I think Poland will try and take some of the West and Belarus some of the North with Hungary nibbling at the South West. Romania seems pretty much owned by Yankeeland but if I was running Moldova I would be talking to Russia now because the map is going to change soon. Then again I am not a European and only know limited history from books.
Agree-- I wonder how much US taxpayers are going to be further on the hook for Blackrock, Dupont et al's losses re: agreements with Ukraine for either dumping chemicals or ownership of land.
I think about this- Russia was able to subjugate all the Warsaw pact countries for 50 years, and turned Chechnya into an ally, I also have to believe that many Ukrainian soldiers who surrendered hate the Z government , as do many wounded and demobilized Ukrainian soldiers. Yes, I could imagine a Ukraine -vs -Ukraine black ops conflict within a vast Russian controlled military district of former Ukraine, but this might be manageable in the short term and worth it in the long term, from a defense perspective.
Exactly. The overall requirement is Russia's security - and that threat comes from NATO outside Ukraine, not a limited insurgency inside Ukraine. People over-emphasize the insurgency threat, forgetting that Russia has been there and done that in Ukraine, Chechnya and Syria.
And also I've mentioned that an insurgency in these days of drone warfare is difficult to do. Insurgents can use drones, too, but only if the air defense of their opponents is poor, e.g., Saudis vs Houthis. A Russian Military District is going to have the best air defense in the world. Add to that the difficulty of running an insurgency in either rural or urban areas with drone surveillance and it becomes clear that threat is overstated. The CIA could run one cross-border from Poland or Romania - sending drones in from those countries - if they want to get Poland and Romania bombed.
But did Russia truly appreciate just how much the West wanted to carve them up , steal all their resources (cause thats what US war is ALWAYS about-- have to feed the debt after all), and subjugate them? It's always about money, resources and power. That's history
NATO doesn't run this negotiation business. The boys fighting it do. Arestovich is so clever, he positions himself now on the side of the "duped Ukrainians" with their stupid leaders who picked the wrong team to hitch themselves to. I'd guess Ukrainians' anger over this war and their losses must be reaching an open boil by now.
You really think NATO can't pick and choose it's preferred factions and dispense the num-nums accordingly?
Nato is about as dumb as they come - they could not pick a fight let alone a faction
Not sure about the Duran guys-- they never stated it will be split. In fact they have many times discussed that Odessa and Kiev are impt. historical Russian cities, ie Russia wants them back. Don't confuse the guests they have - Columbia's finest former Russian economic hitman Jeffrey Sachs- as their view.
I disagree about the Duran team. I'm pretty sure I've heard Mercouris assume both that negotiations were likely and that they would result in a split Ukraine. That seems to be his preference since he's big on negotiations. He doesn't care what the end result is as long as people stop dying. Whereas I don't want to see Russia do something stupid and have to start a new war all over again in six months or six years. If half of Ukraine has to die before they "get it", well, that's on the Ukrainians for not "getting it."
I have recently seen a book on Sachs which reportedly covers his previous activities, although I didn't bother to read it. I don't find Sachs that useful simply because - like most of the analysts who have actual government experience - he can go "only so far" in his analyses. The prime example is his recommendation that the UN simply recognize Palestine as a state. Whoop-de-doo! Now what do we do when Israel refuses to recognize that and the US supports Israel? No comment from Sachs. It's easy to just say - as most do - "two-state solution" - and then refuse to drill down into what that actually means and how to actually achieve it. The Devil is in the details, as they say.
This is "CYA" stuff. One gets to show "moral superiority" without actually solving anything. Since I come from a "no morality" and "human life means absolutely nothing" approach, but instead an "actions and consequences" approach. I can see through this stuff instantly.
what you touch upon also relates to the manifestation of a new world paradigm, this has been variously referred to as the "three headed dragon"
As the west infected as it is by a deranged psycopathic religious death cult seeks (covertly not overtly) the rise af a new era via an outmoded, spent pseudo luciferian prophecy, the options for the other team have become limited.
Right, i appreciate that sounds cryptic, but we need to understand the funders of, the relevance of and the proposed outcome of, the "scofield study bible" over american and thus up to this time "world" politics, that being the placement of satans representative on earth throned at temple mount/al aqusa.
Fundamental zionist christianity has until recently dictated the movement of and the ulitimate outcome of world management, from the compliance shown at 9/11 and onward through covert 19.
freemasonry and western politics have been bound in a death struggle since the "creation" of modern day america and its crucial role in the "great work of ages", it has given license to steal, rape, murder, torture to generation after generation of "progressives" in western societies whilst all the time undermining the foundations of the very "gains" they make.
Realising that the west is in a self inflicted death grip (one could even say self imposed "mort-gage") gives insight as to the insanity as we approach the final chapters...
The three headed dragon faced with such insanity watches keenly the destruction of the westen societies by the parasites that live within it (soros et al) and seeks "decontamination" afore the stink of the rotting carcass speads to its own shores...
Summed up we are speaking of emp not nuclear fision, the resultant has been fantasised by creations such as "walking dead" and never underestimate the relevance of "fiction" be it Tolkein, Huxley or hellywood
The sheer inability of pampered western nations to survive even the shortage of toilet paper let alone fuel, electric and running water shows us how quick the slide from "grace" would be..
An insight into the relevance of the "scofiled study bible can be found here"
https://rumble.com/v3t9omm-the-mystery-of-israel-a-documentary-by-david-sorensen.html
the fact that uk citizens are being told to stock up on candles tells us dwellers of the "sertic isles" that all the years of meddling in Russias affairs may well soon "bear fruit"
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/deputy-british-prime-minister-tells-uk-citizens-stock-up-on-candles-and-batteries-for-grid-down-situation
Seems obvious to me, if for no other reason than to deny Blackrock, Monsanto et al from enjoying their ill-gotten gains. No breadbasket for you boys. Future Ukraine feeds the South, not the West.
Nonsense. Russia anticipates a sea-change in European politics that will realign Europe with Russia. They feel rightly or wrongly (mostly rightly, but not entirely) that most Western European governments are U.S. vassals, but that the crunch of immigration, lack of industrial capacity and job growth, and the European elites' self-destructive energy policies will lead to popular upheaval and new governments in most European states.
Why do I say this? Because Putin is rational and tends to act in the best interest of his nation. He assumes that other nations, while they may act irrationally in the short-term, will eventually act in their own self-interest. The interests of Europe are to establish sound trade relations with Russia and the former Soviet Republics in order to acquire energy and raw materials to refurbish the diminished capacity of European factories. This has been the German foreign policy objective since the age of steam: to acquire resources in the east via trade or conquest. Conquest is off the table, so trade is the only feasible route.
In this, I think Putin is absolutely correct. Europe is going to have a major upheaval and sea change in their governments: sooner rather than later. The signs are everywhere from the recent Irish protests to the gilets jaunes in France to the emergence of the AfD in Germany to the victory of Geertz Wilder's PVV.
It is best for Putin to play the long game. Russia has always, throughout its history, pivoted from partnerships and alliance with East then the West then back again. It will continue to do so with a pivot West as Nato and the EU, as its currently configured, collapse under the weight of their own self-destructive energy policies, their de-industrialization, and their social welfare system, which is currently being overloaded by African immigrants.
You are extremely naive about the US reaction to any such changes given the pivotal period between Unipolarity and Multipolarity we are in, no Empire gives up easily. The UK is already taken care of with the political assassination of Corbyn, the AfD may turn into another Meloni once they get their meeting with the BND and CIA. No elections in France until 2027. Plus all the Western European elites are extremely Atlantacist. Romania is like a NATO fiefdom. Russia will need to go all the way, and that's why Putin is ramping up the military so much, he understands after two decades of attempting to court the West and getting repeatedly smacked in the face. Merkel and the others owning up to the perfidy with respect to Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 made Europe non-agreement capable in Russian eyes.
It's one thing to bluster and threaten like the US does so well. It's another to have the power, money and resources to back it up. They dont-- Clinton gave it away with NAFTA and subsequent govts have neglected everything in the US except puffed up, overblown military spending and varying forms of spooks. If the US was a confident mid empire (timing) nation then why focus on censoring and controlling its own citizens so much?
Yes. At this point, the real power that the U.S. government has is based only on the petrodollar and nuclear weapons. Their conventional forces are obsolete and incapable of little more than tossing pebbles at the Eurasian landmass. The petrodollar is fast disappearing owing to all sorts of U.S. foreign policy debacles from turning Iraq over to the Shias to using the petrodollar as an economic weapon against too many resource-rich countries. What use is a currency if one cannot buy the things one needs with it? All that is left is the nuclear threat, and what is that threat? We get to win the game or we flip over the board and send all the pieces flying?
Moreover, the U.S. is a presidential election away from disbanding NATO. Trump is speaking to a majority when he speaks about withdrawing the U.S. from NATO and withdrawing from many of the overseas bases. Why do you think Kagan and Nuland et al are so apoplectic about his return? The empire is on very shaky ground indeed when they must try to suppress, censor, and incarcerate more than one half their own population in order to maintain control.
Right now the US's real power in its proxy Israel which is a nuclear terrorist state. It has not only threatened Iran with nuclear attack, but it has already used tactical nuclear weapons on its neighbors according to Veterans Today. It has already attacked the US as part of the US, Saudi, Mossad intelligence collective that pulled off 911. Remember the US Liberty. They are the most dangerous threat to peace on earth there is, and Netanyahu is a war criminal They could set off a false flag and blame Russia, or whatever is required to get us all killed. .That seems to be their goal, to take us all to hell. Regime change in Israel.
I agree. U.S. unconditional support for Israel will be its ultimate undoing. A major power cannot allow regional proxies to run its foreign policy and remain a major power. Ask the Romans about their "friends of Rome" policy. If the U.S. wants to continue to support Israel, the U.S. must dictate, in clear terms, exactly what Israel can and cannot do, The endless expansion of settlements in the West Bank and the current ethnic cleansing of Gaza cross lines that should have demarcated the end of all U.S. support for Israel. Instead Israel does as it pleases, and the U.S. is drawn into what promises to became an ever widening war as a result. Netanyahu should be unacceptable to the U.S. as a leader of Israel, and they should have told Israel, long ago, Netanyahu goes, or we take our ball and go home.
I don't think that you are being naive -- but just laying out one set of possibilities --- actually, I think you are laying out 'the best case' scenario: Europe rebels from the dominant US (actually WEF / NWO elite that controls the 'West') and rebuilds its economy and society with Russian energy and raw materials. As Roger Boyd points out in response to you, it could be worse (i.e. a kinetic 'fight' over Europe between the forces of the West and Russia). I don't think that such a kinetic scenario is likely because with nuclear weapons and historical precedents & promises, such a fight will likely be nuclear and catastrophic. At least I hope that calmer heads and better luck prevails and that such a kinetic scenario won't happen. However, there is also a third option: a European future of 'meh' (neither revolt/renaissance or kinetic conflict). In this third way, Europe may 'rebel' from the dominating club of the West but not 'rebuild' -- it just stagnates with high energy prices, demographic collapse, economic de-industrialization. Like China after 1500 or the Arab world after the Crusades, Europe may just become a global backwater of former glory and missed potential.: An increasingly poor and economically and technologically irrelevant geographic peninsula on the greater Eurasian land mass. Unfortunately, I think that this path is the path of least resistance and applicable to both the current European trajectory (vassal of the 'West') or potential future (populist revolt against those Western elites). I say this because the European demographic change, migration impact, and cultural transformation may already be too far advanced to stop without a really strong and sustained revival effort that far exceeds what the 'populist' pr 'patriot' forces in Europe can bring to the party. The 'rot' may be too far gone even if the populists 'succeed'.
Yes. It is not that Europe is a vassal of the U.S. so much as most Western governments, including the U.S. government, are vassals of an oligarch class that spans continents and is not loyal or concerned with the interests or fate of any particular nation. It is absolutely pivotal that one understands this, and I am certain that Putin does. Once one understands this, one understands why Putin would be reasonable to expect opportunities to pivot West diplomatically in the near future.
Such a pivot is what he has tried to do throughout his time as president in Russia, and I doubt that he has given up on that just because Blackrock, Vanguard, Goldman Sachs, UBS and Deutschebank paid Victoria Nuland, Robert Kagan, Angela Merkel, and Jens Stoltenburg to run Europe into the ground in an effort to bring back the heady days of 1994 when every two-bit finance capitalist was playing roulette with every asset of the former Soviet Union.
And I would add that to assume ALL of Europe has to go together towards a BRICS/Russia sphere is silly. All it takes is 5 countries to go to weaken either or NATO or EU-- then the rest follow as their woke, Ursula? loving neighbourhood countries see that the grass is greener-- or that their living standard is better.
All it takes is one of France, Germany, or Italy to do so.
The 'meh' scenario you outline is more likely than any pivots of "Europe" from USA to Asia. I especially find it unlikely that Russia could make such a pivot happen.
But for my money, the most likely outcome for Europe (and USA, and presumably also China and Russia) is a cyberpunk digital gulag. This envisions complete suckery and basically the return of the iron age slave society, just with all the modern technologies. TBH, it'll probably be worse than 2500 years ago. The opportunities for preventing this from happening are few. Breaking cryptography would be a major move in the right direction but (a) it's not yet clear if we live in a Universe where that is possible or not and (b) even without cryptography the cyberpunk dystopia could still be constructed - it'll just be different. Nevertheless, without cryptography the dystopia would be less sucky and less stable. The essential preventative move is self-edification. People need to be upright, not be glued to their screens, not be addicted to Facebook and Instagram, not read news from Twitter botfarms, not get their info from Google searches, not use credit cards or debit cards, not get into debt, not jerk off or fuck whomever, not do drugs, study all kinds of sciences and crafts and arts, work out, fraternize, socialize, and make and bring up babies. And... they need to pray to God Almighty.
But we all know Europeans are atheists. So are many others all over the world.
And so the new Age of Slavery will probably set. Europe will lead the way, but USA, Russia and China will probably be right behind. If we who try as much as we can to escape this new system could all get together in some corner of the world, on Earth or in space, we might be able to create a land of freemen. Sadly I think we'll not congregate. So then the solution would be to up the ante on those self-edification measures ever more. Perhaps, if you accumulate enough knowhow you could collapse your brain into a knowledge black hole and emerge into the world as wizard, able to use your nimble fingers to fashion items to protect you against the onslaught of slavery. Well, that's my approach. Attempt to create a knowledge singularity in my brain.
Given that a united Europe is Yankeelands greatest fear it will be using every dirty underhand tactic it can to prevent that. That is why it has such a stronghold on Germany because the very last thing it wants is the resources and talent of Russia working with the industrialisation of Germany.
This is the singular thing that has provided some semblance of reason and rhyme to U.S. foreign policy post WWII. Everything else is merely oligarchs buying favors from the State Department and Jewish nationals subverting U.S. foreign policy to benefit Israel. The only constant is a desire to prevent Russia from supplying Germany oil and the two states to become economic partners. The obsession with a German-Russian dominated Eurasian landmass is an obsession that dates back to the British Empire.
he attempts to remove Basshar al Assad in Syria, for example, is to get right of way for pipelines to Germany from Saudi Arabia. The obsession with Ukraine is to get control of the pipelines from Russia to Europe. Notice that one of the first act of this war was the destruction of Nordstream?
Trying to prevent this natural union, however, from the other side of the world is like trying to stop water from flowing to the sea. You can build dams, dikes, ditches, and reservoirs, but sooner or later, the water is going to get to the sea.
Great point about the obsession dating back to the British Empire-- yup it started there and given the historical significance of the "City of London" and its ties to the same twisted political elite in the US-- this is more of a tag team effort than most people realize.
A genuinely independent and geopolitically coherent EU would have been a financial and technological superpower, and arguably, would have the #1 greatest competitor to the US.
This possibility, with only shaky viability to begin with, has now been definitively killed, chopped up into tiny pieces, burned, buried, and anything that isn't ashes is currently decomposing - never to see the light of day again.
Receipts please! Given each European has at least 4 levels of govt 😳 "administering" its fate--I would not agree with you.
My God if only this were true! I have long suspected that US foreign policy has been to talk friendly to Europe while acting to destabilise it. Middle East wars a failure? EU migration crises. LGBTQ? Geopolitical weapon to foment division, friction and create fundable political groups, authoritarian anti hate speech power grabs. Etc etc. I do see some resistance and the great pendulum swinging back the other way, but it will be years if at all before the Western sheeple stop watching the news and learn to see the EU as a desirable, standalone, superpower they should be part of, with a cultural and historical alignment with Russia.
It is not that the U.S. wants to destabilize Europe. The U.S. wants to keep Europe from becoming dependent upon Russian oil. Most of the instability in Europe is the doing of European technocrats and the self-loathing Germans who thought it would be a great idea to import half of Africa into Europe to solve their pension fund problems. Of course, the Africans have no serviceable skills aside from serving coffee, so rather than solving the social-welfare pension crisis, they have exacerbated it exponentially.
Likewise, it is Europeans who have convinced themselves that they have to abandon modern life and the cheap energy that makes it possible, to the delight, no doubt, of the U.S. State Department. John Kerry has done his best to sell Europeans and even U.S. on the idea that the entire West has to abandon cheap energy and return to the bronze age because the sky is falling or getting hot or something. But no one in Europe cares what John Kerry says... now... Greta Thunberg... well... she is the bees knees. What intelligent, sophisticated Dutchman would not want to completely reorder the entire society and economy of the West based on the opinions of a semi-autistic teenager who dropped out of high-school.
At the time there was a coordinated intense media campaign to open the borders to migrants. Migrants were portrayed as innocent refugees, drowning in boats, and anyone cruel enough to deny their entry was deemed a racist nazi. Popular music absorbed this and popular artists produced songs and videos that amplified the message. The UK readily adopted the open border policy and pointed at others who did not from a position of moral authority. Back then it was Angela Merkel who resisted. She was attacked and demonised by the press and her peers. It affected public opinion. The mass manipulated populace in the climate created by Western media were practically clammering for African and Islamic immigration. Of course, when Teflon Merkel finally capitulated that was the beginning of the end for both Germany and herself. In the meantime the UK got busy on the Brexit path, while the media highlighted that the economic and social woes of mismanaged immigration were all the result of EU policy! The entire story is a US centric attack on the EU by directing victims of US wars to migrate there and cause social disruption and erosion of national and cultural identity.
I think people need to see govts as companies in the same industry. Competing for the top job, the top economy and the most resources--like the game of Monopoly 😊. All done by morally frail human beings who are looking to prove to the world they are the best. So of course that is whats happening !!!
Of course western European countries are US puppets. The question is whether anyone will do anything about it.
Yet word coming out from Russian leadership is that the Europeans are no longer wanted as trading partners, ever. And the only western nation they will enter into any agreement with is the US, and that will only happen in due time.
Could just be PR, but it is what they are saying.
I will bet money that the Russians will deal with their historical partners-- the US WAY before they go back to Europe. With a return to sanity (ie get rid of Dems) it will be practically easier to do-- one leader, one govt (please don't tell me the EU govt is the same-- really?) . Also can the Russians really forgive Europe or trust a Herr Merkel ever again? Putin is Mr. Practical which is one of the reasons I respect and admire him. If he ever deals directly with Europe again it will be one country at a time (ie like Hungary)
They may in time, but going by Putin's recent speech (link below), they are in no rush to do so. And true, why open any dialogue with the EU, they do what the US tells them to do in spite of the harm it does to their nations.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20230221/putin-russia-showed-readiness-for-dialog-with-west-for-years-but-was-ignored-rebuffed-1107651097.html
Don't put much store by the GOP though, they talk but do nothing, the decisions are made by the deep state. And the deep state is all about war, I believe we will be attacking Venezuela shortly, yes over oil, gas fields.
I do see some nations over time breaking with the EU and going with the BRICS, but Ukraine needs to be sorted out before that happens, probably 3, 4 years from now.
Sooner , things will speed up in this coming year. Like election in Ukraine ?
Election in the USA ? We are living in borrowed time , keeping up with the fast growing unhappy citizens with printed money . The money which is only supported with a hypnotizing word . TRUST ???.
Ah yes, trust. Not much is left at this point.
As for elections, I see none in Ukraine until the infighting between the two Zs is decided, or Russia takes all.
In the US, I see several possibilities:
1. they use a FF to cancel the election for a year or two, so they can run their EMP strike and currency crash, 2. they rig it yet again, 3. they let Trump win, the day he is installed, they do a major EMP strike, crash the economy and tank the currency.
I am ok with item 3., at least you know what you've got with Trump, he would put his back to it to save the country. Anyone else would just sell the country off by the acre probably to Blackrock.
As a European subject myself, i would say that we are unfortunately faaar away from a "sea change" in European politics. "Alternative" parties like the Fratelli, AfD, Vox, LePen, etc are either coopted by the PTB from the very start or they "get an offer they can resist" once they are close to power.
Putin better get a big dose of patience if he wants to wait until the current European leaders get deposed...
As I've commented in my last post, the US can still do a lot of control on the cheap, especially in regions were it has been hegemonic for decades.
https://open.substack.com/pub/concernedceltiberian/p/concerning-the-cheap-evil-empire?r=2nwdrk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Maybe, what a difference a day makes these days....
I wouldn't be surprised if a Russian air or naval base appears in Venezuela in the near future.
And Cuba too would be a very nice provocation.