Ukraine’s fate continues to be hinged on ostensibly allowing “deep strikes” in order to lance the war’s final ‘taboo’ in involving NATO directly against Russia.
More EuroDisney. That was the point. We intended that, 🇺🇸 we did. After getting sucked in twice in one generation are we to blame? They would have done it again already.
Europe is Africa with better table manners. Endless wars.
Genug. Enough.
Even India and the Commonwealth weren’t going to show again.
Now as this vital point wasn’t put into the schoolbooks for Dummies that Vindman, Nuland read and written in Crayon for George Bush 43 types, this the vital point was lost, and we’re just having trouble extracting ourselves.
This is why NOTHING in the way of alliances must EVER be more than transactional. Alliances are ruinous, it’s a question of how much ruin? Shall it be one ruins the other or mutual?
The good news is THEY in Europe clearly have no fight left…
If we can just get clear without nuclear war, ultimately it’s to the good, I suppose.
.... but it is needful to make this clear - most people, or many, confound the two
As do or pretend to do governments
Another discussion is to how the peoples are complicit or unduly submissive with/to the various oppressions or extortions their governments extract, internal and ex
Bongistan talks mad shit for a country in Sarmat/Burevestnik/Poseidon range. Also, more demented ravings from Bojo:
Boris Johnson: "Our message to Russia is this. It's over. You don't have an empire anymore, we don't allow that in modern world. You no longer have a "near abroad" or a "sphere of influence." You have no right to tell Ukrainians what to do, just as we British have no right to tell our former colonies what to do. It's time for Putin to understand that Russia can have a happy and glorious future, but like Rome and like Britain, Russians must join the ranks of post-imperial powers.
We must abandon any idea that Ukrainians will make a deal. They won't go. They will not trade land for peace. Their will to fight has not weakened, and it seems to me that the country would rather collapse into anarchy and civil war than submit to partition.
The first step to sanity is to understand that there is no decent compromise with Putin. We need to give Ukrainians the right to use the weapons they already possess. Secondly, we need to provide a loan package on the scale of lend-lease: half a trillion dollars, or even a trillion. The third and most important thing is that we need to bring Ukraine into NATO now, and I mean right now.
We could invite Ukraine to join before the end of the war."
about time-- they have been behind so much blood and carnage in my life time-- all while hiding behind their muscle-- the US. The City of London needs to be taken down.
Please let me quote the first few sentences - this is sugar fiction as only the Brits can do
'The young amputee had a question. We were sitting once again in the rehab centre in Kyiv, and I was looking at the same sort of injuries I saw last year: the missing limbs, the cranial scars, the withered hands and feet that no longer obeyed their owners’ commands.
The difference was that Vladimir Putin’s carnage had been inflicted on a new group of Ukrainians – noticeably younger than last year’s victims, and now including a woman. Once again, I shook their hands (where possible) and put my arms around them, and did my best to be reassuring to all, including the young man on the bed, who had lost his left leg up to the hip. ‘When are you going to let us use the Storm Shadow?’ he asked – amid a general murmur of agreement.'
This whole need to impose a strategic defeat on Russia thing is unhinged delusion. They had Russia at it's weakest in the 90's and blew it. Now with no plan with any possibility of success, they are driving a whole new opposition coalition together, BRICS etc, who's express purpose is ensuring the survival of humanity.
How in the hell can the US plead innocent to the UN top indictment, the crime of aggression? Being a hitman is illegal, but hiring one is just fine, thank you very much. Going around the world stirring up trouble is past it's best before date. They are on to us, time for a new schtick. There is no money in peace, so that's out, hmm pandemics?
Nonsense. NATO and the pentagon is already running this war. Look at the results. Now you want nato troops to show up and do what? NATO does not have a ground troop army except for the Polish. And that’s only a fraction of what they need. They are not combat ready either. They need 5x more troops than what nato already has. This joining nato nonsense was never serious. Just a carrot to dangle in front of the mindless Ukrainians to get them to go along with the “til the last Ukrainian” plan.
Even if NATO had a vast paper army most of it has no desire whatsoever to fight on the Russian front. There would be mass flight and surrender, and NATO would never recover from the humiliation- which is why it has no intention of acting out Johnson's war-porn on the ground.
And all Johnsons words show is who is truly behind all this--incapable to act on it unless the US does it for them-- remind you of a small middle eastern country. ?
Is it so hard to make the obvious logical connections between things?
Let's first look at another situation -- a hypothetical war with Iran. Everyone will tell you that the US is doomed in a conventional war with Iran. Iran has more missiles, has hidden its key military infrastructure deep inside the mountains, is impossible to invade on the ground because it is rimmed with mountains, etc. etc. Iran also has very good air defense, and the US doesn't even have all that many missiles. So in a hypothetical war the US might be able to fire a couple thousand cruise missiles, of which 80-90% will be shot down, the rest will hit, but as we have seen in Ukraine, which was hit by literally thousands of cruise missiles but it is still fighting hard, that won't win you any war. We also have the example of Germany in WWII -- let's say Iran is hit by 500 cruise missiles, that is just 250 tons of warheads. Germany received many thousands and was still fielding a formiddable army. And that was done by planes flying directly above -- no planes will be able to fly over Iran. Yeah, now it's PGMs, and unlike Putin in Ukraine, the US will strike directly at the most painful targets, but still.
Yet then we have two observations that make absolutely no sense in the context of the above:
1) Iran keeps taking hit after hit after hit without responding, even though if it was to go all out and defeat its enemies, it does have the military-technical means to do so in a conventional conflict. Hits that include things like being bombed in its own capital, its president and FM being assassinated, its embassies being target by cruise missiles, etc. etc.
2) Powerful forces in the US and in Israel keep pushing for a war that they have no means of winning conventionally.
What is the way out of that conundrum? It is in the word "conventional". If the US and Israel in fact intend to strike with nukes, then the whole calculus changes, and the behavior of everyone starts to make much more sense.
Now let's take this line of thinking to Eastern Europe. What do we have there?
NATO has very little in terms of ground forces to take on Russia, and just had much of the relevant equipment blown up in the killing fields of eastern Ukraine.
NATO also has a serious missile gap with respect to Russia, same situation as Iran.
And yet NATO is escalating and Russia is cowering in fear.
What does that tell us?
Then we have giant columns of red-hot plasma going up in the sky at key military sites in Russia, and people still can't see the obvious that is right in front of their eyes...
Personally, I've suspected for the last 5 years that the US may have, or thinks it has, perfected an anti ICBM weapon. Your comment is what I've been wondering all the time lately.
I also think Israel will be the first to use nukes in the modern age.
1) Nukes in space (Starlink with its thousands of satellites would be a very convenient way to situate those under plausible deniability cover; the Starlink V2 satellites are in fact big enough to hold sever warheads each). There is no defense against that, they will just drop directly onto their targets with single-digit minutes of flight time and barely any detection.
2) Planted nukes inside major cities. Russian internal security has been mostly completely broken for three decades now, it would have been trivial to smuggle fairly large warheads and place them in strategic locations.
Now of course the exact same applies to the West -- it has no air defense to speak of, and its internal security is also completely compromised. Anyone can smuggle anything into the US too. But the question is who is crazy enough to play that kind of a game, and in a game of chicken whoever is crazier usually wins.
Though there might be something about the anti-ICBM defenses, it might explain the Russian persistence with the Burevestnik and Sarmat projects and also Russia still taking hits instead of destroying NATO (and thus the Sarmat explosion in Plesetsk yesterday is an absolutely devastating blow).
The “first step to sanity” is to realize the puppet leaders of all the western countries are totally insane. Once you realize that then you are on the right track. Anything else is living in a fantasy reality.
They're not "insane" exactly; they're living in their own bubble, in which speeches and votes in Parliament, and the support of their "public opinion" driven by their own propaganda, is what matters to them - regardless of what is happening in the real world.
Freely striking... With what exactly? Challenged 2s that did so badly Bongistan ordered their use to be stopped to salvage what broken fragments remain of their pride? Shit Shadows which couldn't do more than pothole the Kersch bridge for a day after a sustained barrage? I suppose their greatest achievement was convincing Ukraine and Zelensky to commit national suicide on order to "strike freely at the Russians", which neatly plays into Bongistan 's national identity as cowards hiding behind the rest of Europe, who present their hind quarters for the pleasure of their tormentors.
Who in their right mind would go to a meaningless meat grinder that is kept going only because the ruling elites are trying to make a deal with the enemy instead of doing what is fully in their power to do and end it all in a few weeks?
Boris needs reminding that Russia never told the Ukrainians what to do. It sought to enforce a treaty granting self determination for ethnic Russians in the east whom the Ukrainians were persecuting in defiance of international law. Russia had right on its side, right from the start. And it still does. Which is why it is winning.
It had right on its side from the start, but that's not why it is winning. It's winning because it has a bigger and better military backed by natural resources and a sound industrial base, and leaders who are in contact with reality.
That is all connected with the ability to be 'right'. It is what tends to happen to you when you connect with reality and act on it with a sound mind. The foundation of virtue is in the intellect not the passions. Socrates said this. But the Egyptians got here first with their concept of Maat.
Agree. Bojo is trulY in the sam league as Mad Dog Churchill. Instigating war, put more gasoline on fires, divide and destroy the European Mainland (France and Germany). As can be noted the new Axis of self-imposed importance goes DC-London-Warsawa, Not through Paris-Berlin. UK has even a Defence minister straight out from a movie picture about Idi Amin.
Churchill's main achievement was the complete (and completely unnecessary) destruction of his own country's wealth. His modern equivalent is Zelensky, not Bojo.
Is it not somewhat strange that the safest place for Ukraine is inside NATO as Russia would not dare attack a NATO nation. Yet at the same time fearing that Russia would start attacking NATO states after a Ukrainian defeat. It is like the European nations that have spread brotherly love and freedom to distant shores through genocide subjugation, by slavery and stealing the lands and resources of indigenous peoples going to the borders and invading the evil Russians to stop Russian imperialism. It's as if the western double think makes no logical sense if you think about it, but thinking is hard work.
"Is it not somewhat strange that the safest place for Ukraine is inside NATO as Russia would not dare attack a NATO nation. Yet at the same time fearing that Russia would start attacking NATO states after a Ukrainian defeat."
it's a pretext. NATO is like a barrooom bully looking for a fight and using any excuse to start one.
Bozo does not officially speak for the UK, being a disgraced and very much ex-PM. So you can read his comments as either a personal frolic or his being used as a medium to sell a narrative, or both. I tend to the latter - I suspect he is badly compromised and must do as he is told.
The fact is that London still controls Canada and Australia, as well as the US. Bojo words are the words of a serial professional liar who arrested 60 million people while he was drunk partying. What can anyone expect from such a criminal character. The claim the UK is not an empire controling multiple tax havens, overseeas territories and huge dominions are equal to the clain the press and media are free and independent in the west. It would be easy for anyone to throw the truth to his face but nobody really dares in the west, which is a another sympton of the lie. And that's the real problem. The total moral decline of the European civilisation.
Yes the UK does exert direct control over various areas here in Canada primarily through our very similar political and legal structures, but it is different in the US. There it is much more of a mutually beneficial relationship there -- the City of London financial benefit and the MIC benefits for the UK's muscle-- the US. Add to that the shared Neo-con power of both countries currently showing as the mutual hatred/need to pillage feelings towards Russia. Add to that the US corporate supremacy especially around oil/gas. UK is out foxed there. Great video to watch is the latest? by Mike Benz---he dissects what is truly behind the money /corprorate moves behind UK -- yup Chevron is involved.
That Carnival-of-Monsters Tilurian Raymond Phytang Olé Buscuit Barrel Bongo Johnson is a psycotic combination of Russia-Derangement Syndrome, acute narcissism, and uncontrollable greed. A detestable asshole, with a clorox-bleached 'Name-of-The-Rose' haircut.
EU Commission comedian attempts to re found EU defence Indsutry continues to fail
A new post of Defence Commissioner has been created, even if the EU does not have a defence policy, by definition, in fact they have a Peace Commissioner, because by law the EU is not to concern itself with Defence, nor of course by implication with Peace
Even if an old Lit, he’s said to be as blood thirsty as the new Lits we reported on recently
However he’s not getting a leg up from the MSM, even Reuters had the nerve to point out the post is a pig in pyjamas, not once but on reports on successive days
What few have noticed is that he is also the Commissioner for Space, which gives new meaning to the old phrase Space Race, and to word salading about Safe Space that might fuel KK’s re entry into TV cameras
Is it not strange that Space is a purely a subsection of Defence ?
VILNIUS, Sept 18 (Reuters) - The European Union must be quick to increase its defences as Russia may be ready for a confrontation in six to eight years, the nominee to be the EU's first defence commissioner told Reuters in an interview.
Andrius Kubilius, a former prime minister of Lithuania, Russia's neighbour, has been tapped to boost the continent's arms industry, by getting EU countries spend more on European weapons and procure jointly - as well as by getting companies themselves to cooperate more across borders.
The new post reflects how security has risen to the top of the EU's political agenda since Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine.
"Defence ministers and NATO generals agree that Vladimir Putin could be ready for confrontation with NATO and the EU in 6-8 years," Kubilius, a fierce critic of Russia and a supporter of Ukraine, said on Wednesday.
"If we take these assessments seriously, then that is the time for us to properly prepare, and it is a short one. This means we have to take quick decisions, and ambitious decisions," he said.
Kubilius said his first job as a commissioner would be to explore, jointly with EU top diplomat nominee Kaja Kallas, what resources the European Union needs to be ready for a military challenge. He is aiming to complete an exploratory study within the first 100 days.
He said underinvestment of more than a trillion euros in the decade since the financial crisis meant the European defence industry was in an "unsatisfactory condition".
SPENDING NOT SOURCING
Kubilius faces an uphill battle against several EU governments which are deeply wary of giving Brussels a say in how they organise their defence industries.
The European Commission has no legal mandate to formulate defence policies, and EU countries coordinate their defence through NATO.
Kubilius sees his job as complementary to NATO, not in competition.
"The European Union won't have defence plans or military leadership, like NATO does - but the European Union has instruments to get larger financing, which NATO doesn't", he said.
Spot on. In due course this eastern region will find itself all that is left of that weird post war european ''EU' architecture fantasised by Churchill. The western former EU nations will have made their own variously messy exits. It is already underway.
Then what? Abandoned by the new centres of wealth, The Baltics et al, will be driven by their people to apply to join the RF. The likes of Germany, France and the UK will limp on as colonies of the US exploited as such, and useful sites for dumping of toxic US produce (and services, especially health (sic) services destined for the UK.)
The fuss over Draghi's presentation is much overstated, as it is merely in self defence - given that he initiated many of the programs that resulted in EU problems
This is infighting between various EU types and to not be taken seriously
One must be fairly sure than neither Frnce nor Germany is to be quite so self sacrificial as to allow the EU C either money or guns
VdL is merely making the right noises so as to be appointed NATO Chief, or Head of the Federal Reserve Board or something
Elegantly put, Cheetos. You have no problem finding the words. But I agree, you won't find any legitimated public platform for them. Group think always reduces to lowest common denominator slogans which render it impotent to change anything. It ceases to connect to the real world.
The group mind has never found a solution to this. Pray to the gods it never will.
If recent history is an example, it's too late, unfortunately. That doesn't mean a reversal can't take shape but that would require a major revolution in the West. If I am looking at the sloth-like "thinkers'" of today's political elite and the debauched masses, I can't see that happening any time soon.
"...the war in Ukraine, a mythologized historical event by now, is an event one can speak of in only a certain way."
Very true. That's type 1 verses type 2 thinking.
A certain Mister Vladimir Vladimirovich must be pleased that he has been promoted from a mere human being to a demonic Prince of Hell who not only can unleash Armagedón upon the earth but can also do spooky mind control at a distance. Listen to his diabolical lies and he can take over your very soul and make you into his slave!
It's worth noting that the Baltic states and Ukraine fall within Halford Mackinder's "Zone of conflict" in his Eurasian "World Island" schema.
That's not too bad for a theory written down in 1904 when the fastest form of transport was the steam locomotive, and the fastest communication was the telegraph.
10-20 years ago, nobody was talking about Mackinder, 10-5 years ago almost anyone who had said that Eurasianism was an antiquated fantasy.
It's worth noting that the Baltic states and Ukraine fall within Halford Mackinder's "Zone of conflict" in his Eurasian "World Island" schema.
That's not too bad for a theory written down in 1904 when the fastest form of transport was the steam locomotive, and the fastest communication was the telegraph.
10-20 years ago, nobody was talking about Mackinder, 10-5 years ago almost anyone who had said that Eurasianism was an antiquated fantasy.
A HS friend married an Estonian girl and her red hot hatred of Russia and Russians always baffled me. I thought she would catch on fire-hot! At the same time...colder than a dead witch's tit.
For CS - perhaps this guy was dragged out of his rest home by KK in an attempt to show her service is worthwhile
But she has made enemies of Séjourné Breton and Macron so she must N° 1 on VdL to be burnt at the stake list
I 'm looking for his Safe Space Race reommendations - He will de colonise Space, - Who will vote for dogs and emotional support animals, who will vote for.......suggestions on a postcard please
His portfolio is non existent, and the EUC is not going to get there , to a defence army money or guns, by stealth, or by appointing a dead dog to the post
He looks like a lost Lit St Bernard recovering from his last binge and fearful of the dominatrix's whip
Even if the EU parliament approves the post creation and says we are going to invade Serbia , nothing will change
"Kubilius said his first job as a commissioner would be to explore, jointly with EU top diplomat nominee Kaja Kallas, what resources the European Union needs to be ready for a military challenge. "
That's easy - willing people to join, raw materials, industrial capacity, competent military leadership who know something about war, responsible political leadership and well.....money - none of which they currently possess, nor are they likely to. Oh, and of course and above all, cheap Russian energy... ;-)
The German and the French ruling class are - to be sure- very stupid - but to give up their armies, their only means of protection against their own people, this they will not do
Even the last Kings of France before the Revolution did not hand over the army to an alien invader, and VdL is an alien
I think the "deep strike" will be allowed at some point, close to the end of this farce. Not to give the gullible Ukrainians a chance to win, but to try and squeeze the last few drops out of the Russian federation to deplete them. Nuland and the neocon cabal pop a bottle for any slav killed
On September 26, Biden will meet with Zelensky, who will present his "victory plan" which is based on a complete Russian capitulation just like the previous so-called "peace plan".
[Spoiler: both these plans are 100% unrealistic].
We know the points. Here they are. That's what all the demagoguery about the "second peace summit" with the participation of Russia and China is about.
All the points are painted with the responsibilities and area of responsibility of all countries that thought that the security guarantee agreements they signed with Ukraine were just declarations. Now Washington and London will force the signatory countries to do all this.
The main purpose of the plan: to bind the Russian Federation economically by imposing new secondary restrictions on the work of banks around the world, to strangle the countries of the global south, to force them to refuse to purchase oil through a shadow tanker fleet with the threat of arrest of all officials and their family members abroad for aiding the Kremlin.
The second goal is even sweeter - to bring the whole world to its knees through secondary sanctions.
1. Permission to strike at critical infrastructure facilities deep into Russia.
2. Attacks on military units and places of permanent deployment of units of law enforcement agencies.
3. Carrying out terrorist attacks on Russian soil.
4. Attacks on power plants and generation facilities.
5. Further confiscation of officials' property in the West.
6. The embargo on the supply of medicines, medical equipment, and components for their production from Asian and Latin American countries to the Russian Federation.
7. Termination of purchases of Russian gas by all EU countries.
8. The embargo on the issuance of visas to all citizens of the Russian Federation, except for short-term ones up to 1 month.
9. Secondary restrictions for countries in Asia and the Middle East, where the daughters of Russian companies do business.
10. The issuance of ICC warrants for a pool of Russian current officials and employees to narrow the window of opportunity to establish ties with countries that have not joined the sanctions policy.
11. Actively check all citizens of the Russian Federation who have a residence permit of the allied countries and create lists of "good Russians" (those who want to be slaves of the Western globalist elites) and further restrictions for "bad Russians" (those who defend the sovereignty and the interests of their country).
12. The approved transfer of gold reserves by the UN General Assembly to the balance of the "Ukrainian peace Fund", in case Moscow refuses peace talks according to the Zelensky formula.
13. The supply and guidance of long-range weapons from air carriers to all targets approved by the Pentagon.
14. A ban on ships flying the Russian flag entering all EU ports.
15. Measures of sanctions pressure on Belarus and members of the Lukashenko family in order to seize the country or ignite a civil war to enlarge the conflict.
>7. Termination of purchases of Russian gas by all EU countries.
Good. Maybe then the Gazprom oligarchy will lift its veto on the proper prosecution of the war and we will finally see decisive action taken? We can only dream...
Zelensky’s victory plan? lol. I wonder who came up with that label?
The Ukrainian gov is living in a state of total delusion. Under their stewardship, they have led Ukraine as well as the world into a state of total destruction with their stupidity, corruption and total unconsciousness.
All anyone has to do is look at a map and the statistics of the results of this war. Yet, they think they will be in charge of anything after the war ends? They are living in a total fantasy reality.
Yes. But there’s obviously a lot at stake, still. As suicidal as this looks, it seems the western elites have gone all in. The next few months are crucial I believe. Because the western rulers (whoever they are) have to leverage the war to win the American presidency. Blackrock has already made a deal to rebuild Ukraine. IMO it will not happen, but have the corporate titans accepted that fact yet? I hope I’m wrong but it seems to me western leaders won’t stop until they have been decisively defeated. We haven’t seen that yet.
There is the victory plan that is presented for public consumption, and then there is the real plan, which is for Ukraine to hold on until after the US elections, which is when NATO will directly and openly intervene.
Thank you Simplicius. Talking points and "permissions" aside, the humans have been given orders to start wars they can't win to collapse america and the west.
>What needs to be said is it’s quite comical that Ukraine claims to require NATO help to “strike deep” into Russia when they just hit such a big depot 500-600km, which is superior to the range of ATACMS, Storm Shadows, and the like. It goes to show the ‘deep strike’ red herring is meant merely to instigate a NATO-Russia conflict rather than add new capabilities Ukraine lacks.
It's even more comical to watch people refuse to see what is right in front of their eyes.
"Drones" don't do this kind of damage, nor do ammo depots consisting of many dozens of isolated bunkers explode all at once into giant singular explosions that send columns of plasma high up in the sky.
Watch the video of the explosions. There may have been drones to disguise what was happening in the main blow, but that main blow consisted of NATO tactical nukes. Highly unlikely to have come from Ukraine, because nobody reported missiles flying north through Bryansk towards Tver. In fact, nobody reported large drone swarms either. So much more likely it came directly launched from Latvia, which also explains how Russian AD was caught with its pants down like that.
But that main thing is it was two or three tactical nukes. If you watched that footage without somebody telling you anything about the time and the place, what would you have thought you were watching? Be honest with yourself.
The Kremlin has swallowed even that, meaning there will be a lot more to come. Unless there is a devastating response, i.e. full destruction of NATO in Europe, ASAP.
However, the traitors in Moscow don't have the guts for that, plus they still have their children and mistresses in the West, which tells us where their real loyalties lie.
You can skip most of London (make sure to get the City though) and go straight for the mansions in the countryside. A kiloton each will do the job without too much collateral damage.
If you don't do that. Moscow will burn.
But which place do Russian elites value more? There are serious doubts...
GM, I share your distrust of the current Russian authorities. They have betrayed, are betraying and will betray us at the first opportunity. But... "The authorities are hushing up the nuclear strike"? With such unfounded statements you discredit your position as a whole.
Those were not nukes, not a chance. There are sensors and detectors all over the world operated by all sorts of countries looking for this sort of thing. Plus the explosions were too small, relatively. But whatever was in those bunkers made a big boom. And yes, the Ukrainians have long range capability, clearly.
Yeah, so small that they blew out the windows ten kilometers away.
And sure, you are not an idiot who cannot run the decision tree with respect to the two main players here.
Would NATO come out and declare "We nuked Russia!"? Of course not, the whole point is doing sneak attacks that can be disguised as "Ukrainians did it with drones". This is what the proxy was prepared for during all these years. And the whole real point of the Ukrainian long-range drone campaign -- to create a plausible deniability cover for covert nuclear strikes.
But then we have the Kremlin, whose perverted incentives are also in the direction of covering it up. Because if they admit they were nuked, then they would have to launch a preemptive first strike on NATO to make sure no additional such strikes will be possible. Either that, or they are finished once the information is out to the whole world that they were nuked and they just took it like the cucks that they are.
The problem is that the Russian elites are still looking for a deal with the West instead of victory over the West, because of internal Russian politics. A Russian victory can only be achieved through seriously weakening the internal position of Russian elites -- it will have to become a new country that is a lot more like the USSR and a lot less like the neoliberal oligarchy it has been for the last three decades. The SMO was a bluff to try to scare the West into making some kind of a deal and to avoid having to fight the West. That bluff is being called increasingly more brutally every day for a third year running now, but clearly Russian elites had no Plan B, and are now willing to take even multiple nuclear bombings (there was yet another big column of plasma going up in the sky over the huge ammo depot in Tihoretsk a couple hours ago, which would make it the fourth such strike) but not do what has to be done to end this.
There were no nukes (drop it GM) but there is no explanation how the assumed Ukrainian drones with 25-50kg warhead could send 10 000 tonnes of explosives in to the air in that way. They were stored in a saturated way and behind reinforced concrete or even underground. And were did they come from, the 100+ drones?
Precisely because there is no other explanation and because what you saw looked exactly like a nuke -- singular giant explosion (well, two of them, but presumably you send pairs of missiles in case AD shoots down one), column of plasma reaches very high in the sky, sharp crackling short-lasting sound rather than prolonged grumbling from a chain reaction of detonations -- that the obvious and only explanation that makes sense is that those were nukes.
Windows were blown 10 kilometers away.
Ammo depots don't blow up like that -- it is a lot of secondary explosions and no columns of plasma high into sky with a nice mushroom cap above the clouds on top.
This site consisted of over a hundred individual bunkers, many of them hardened to withstand very serious airbursts. How does that all go off in a single explosion?
There were secondary explosions here, but that was the further away bunkers eventually overheating and going off. The site is giant, you would need a warhead in the hundreds of kilotons to take it all out in a single explosion, and that cannot be concealed. But a small one under 10 kilotons can be.
As we have just seen -- what happened is right in front of everyone's face but people refuse to accept it. Be honest, if I make the footage black and white, run it through some filters to make it look a bit grainy like from the 1950s, and show it to you side by side with some of the smaller surface tests from back then, would you be able to tell which one is which? No. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc.
I understand your frustration. Lets say they nuked the base. Do you think Russia would just let it go? There are a lot of sensors that can pick up even a small nuke going of. Why would that be concealed from us?
From seismograf we know that there were a couple of big explosions, a couple of 2,8 (propably in the old part) and a tremendous 3,2 in the new area (as seen on the video I linked before). From that explosion you see rockets/missile flying all over the place. So something set of a store of many missiles.
I read about those two 100 meters craters in the old part of the site. A guy analysed HD satellite pictures and reported holes in the concrete roofs about 4x7 m, sometimes smaller, sometimes even bigger. Could not be from small drones.
One idea is that they somehow could deliver a significant amount of fuel-air-explosives and set of a chainreaction. I very doubt they used nukes. We wouldnt be sitting texting right now if so.
>Lets say they nuked the base. Do you think Russia would just let it go?
Yes, I do. And they have. This isn't even the first such case, just the worst one so far. The Morozovsk attack on August 3rd also featured a mushroom cloud with a plasma stem. We are still here, right?
The reason this one is so much worse is that in Morozovsk they hit the temporary ammo dump used by the airfield. A few hundred FABs and missiles went out. This, on the other hand, is a national-level ammo storage site. And it's not even related to the SMO, this is the Leningrad Military District, the one that is supposed to guard against NATO attacks from the Baltics and Finland. You see where this is going?
>There are a lot of sensors that can pick up even a small nuke going of. Why would that be concealed from us?
Who is going to report it to you and why?
NATO's scheme is to use covert attacks under the "Ukrainian" proxy cover to force the Kremlin into submission. Why would they tell you they used nukes?
On the other side, if the Kremlin says "we were nuked", then what happens after that? There are two options:
1) They launch an all-out attack on NATO, or at least NATO in Europe (perhaps giving the US a chance to stand down) and annihilate it all. But because NATO's launchers might be quite well dispersed and hidden, that means you basically have to wipe all of those countries out. That is a rather dramatic step that will then have a lot of very serious consequences. I don't need to elaborate, nor do I have the time.
2) They don't launch an all-out attack. But they have then just admitted they were nuked. What does that mean? That they are completely destroyed as a great power and a lot more such attacks can and will follow, openly. Note that even a token attack on NATO will not be enough to re-establish deterrence and standing, as you yourself are just demonstrating (everyone is thinking that any nuclear strike will immediately result in an all-out response; well, not really in practice, but that is what people think)
So if you face those choices conditional upon the information getting out, the incentive is heavily stacked towards keeping it hushed up.
>From seismograf we know that there were a couple of big explosions, a couple of 2,8 (propably in the old part) and a tremendous 3,2 in the new area (as seen on the video I linked before). From that explosion you see rockets/missile flying all over the place. So something set of a store of many missiles.
>One idea is that they somehow could deliver a significant amount of fuel-air-explosives and set of a chainreaction. I very doubt they used nukes. We wouldnt be sitting texting right now if so.
See above regarding us sitting here and texting right now.
If they used a bunker buster nuke, it would have create a much larger earthquake. The North Korean tests that were in 2-6 kiloton range caused earthquakes between 4.5 and 5.2. It was likely some drones first (this is the source of the fires you see on the sides in the video) to deplete on-site SHORAD, then the missiles came but those were airbursts. Those destroyed a lot of stuff directly underneath, then ammo started cooking off from the overpressure and high temperature in the more peripheral bunkers, and this caused the small earthquakes you are referring to.
Your reasoning sounds plausible about Russias dilemma. But we have different opinion based on what we perceive as facts. I see this giant explosion almost 500m in diameter and reaching 1,5 km up in the air. The smaller ones on each side is not from Drones. They are also really big but are dwarfed in comparasion to the big one. Could be each site going of. There is a lot of smoke as if something has exploded before.
What is disturbing is how easy Ukraine can reach deep into Russia (with help from US/NATO) and cause such destruction again and again. I give you that. That the world is full of lies and deceptions is also a fact. Who would have thought that Israel started an operation 15 years ago with the sole purpose to saturate Mid-East with hidden explosives…
There was even more of them simply lying in the boxes on top of the bunkers. So it really didn't take a lot of effort once satellites confirmed the target.
Also, it seems that tonight they hit another arms depot near Toropets. As is usual with the Russian army, eventually they'll get out of lull and start figuring out countermeasures. But once they do, the problem would be to return to that peaceful lull.
The satellite pics was taken long time ago not a couple of days ago. There was ammo in the western part sitting out in the daylight. In the new part…why should they climb up to the roof and store ammo there?
There's hardly reason to expect otherwise, given general MO of the Russian army. It took them two and a half years of active warfare to eliminate most cases of clustered formations of troops and large ammo dumps in close vicinity to the front, and this is a relatively very backwater facility.
You mean they are dumb as shit? That is not comforting if true. On the other hand - why not ask yourselves if West just playing around. How come they are discussing ”long-range weapon use” and simlutaneously we see not one, but three, long range attacks with devastating results.
Nope, but rigid AF. You can't even begin to imagine how rigid. As for the second part, now West can say that Ukraine doesn't in fact need deep-strike missiles since it already does have the capability with its own drones. A good exit strategy. Still, I believe we'll get to see a lot more strikes and a NATO country or two erased off the map before this ends.
GM is smart but this Nuke-thing he has to drop. Beirut blast was 3.3 on Richterscale with approx 1 500 ton of equivalent of explosives. In Toropets they recorded about fifteen! 2+ Richterscale explosions - so we can assume that almost the entire base went of with 19 000 tons of ammo lost.
1) Why are you so sure Beirut was a conventional ammonium nitrate explosion?
2) In Toropets it was an airburst from a missile, you don't expect a huge earthquake from that, and for a warhead to produce such a fireball, it would make a much bigger earthquake if it was a surface or subsurface explosion. The smaller North Korean tests from recent years in the sub-10-kiloton range triggered earthquakes in the 4.5-5 range. And remember that the earthquake scale is a logarithmic one. The M2+ earthquakes are individual bunkers cooking off later from the heat.
Beirut was ammonium nitrate but who set of the initial fire/explosion could very well be their neighbour.
Toropets…there is no footage of the initial attack. The fireballs are results from for us unseen explosion. It is ammo/rockets/missiles en masse exploding.
Are you really that dense or you are doing it because you have to protect the Substack racket, which would immediately fall apart if you were to tell the truth about what is happening and thus have all the followers that are desperate for having someone tell them daily that Russia is winning abandon you?
How exactly are those 10,000 tons spread over a hundred different hardened bunkers going to explode in a singular explosion? Which we know they didn't even do, because there are still some intact bunkers in the satellite images, there were secondary explosions for quite some time after the first strikes, and the nuclear fireballs in the video were centered on somewhere in the middle of the facility, i.e. one localized part of it.
Are NATO's strategic ammo depots going up in giant balls of plasma? No. But Russia's are.
Is NATO losing planes? No. But Russia is, and it has a lot fewer of them to begin with.
Does Russia have nuclear missiles 100 miles from NYC or LA? Or even 500 miles from DC? No, but the US can have them at such distances from St. Petersburg and Moscow whenever it wishes, if it has not already permanently situated them.
Do you think if you just put a positive spin on bad news that it will change reality? Honestly perplexed by your commentary. Every week there is another catastrophe and security failure in Russia. To what extent are the hands of Russian nationalists tied by the influence of oligarchs and spooks.
That’s not neoliberalism. Neoliberalism is all about economics. Instead of neoliberalism the word they are looking for is Cultural Left, woke, SJWism, Identity Politics, etc. Summed up by that debauched tranny drag queen insanity at the Olympics and the various horrors of Eurovision.
Neoliberalism is about more than economics. It certainly does encompass a certain social outlook, or at least strikes a particular pose, so to speak, to corral classes and groups that are convinced to think that neoliberal economics is good for them. It is amazingly, unfortunately effective.
Sure but the Cultural Left has nothing do with neoliberalism. People like Putin see that word “liberal” and think it means “liberal Democrat” or cultural liberalism, now the same as the CL.
But it’s talking about another kind of liberalism that has nothing to do with social liberalism, the economics of which is Keynesian.
Putin should know that but maybe he’s blinded by ideology.
This is crap. It’s complete nonsense. The Republican Party is neoliberal! Oh you’re one of those lunatic MAGA fascists just like the author. I can tell by how you talk. You know zero about economics or culture. Now get lost.
No dude. In typical authoritarian style you actually order me to get lost because I told you some truth you dont want to hear.
I'm a Socialist. Both Parties are aligned with Wall Street, both Parties are neoliberal, both Parties support war and Genocide and State terrorism. Now get lost! That's an order!
The tragedy of a state where delusional and corrupt leaders are happy to see huge swathes of their population dead, maimed or losing male relatives, truly an offence to humanity. This war for Ukraine was not defensive or justifiable in any way.
Seems this war is well and truly lost in the kinetic sense, all that remains to be seen is how far are our glorious masters willing to push Russia to the brink of nuclear war. In most of the West our choices for government are between the moral lacking woke liars, the war mongering liars or a combination of both, if younger I'd have a hard think about that Russian offer.
Kevork Almassian had a very interesting X post with a short video of Col Wilkerson saying the US Military has done basically a soft coup over Blinken Sullivan and Biden - https://twitter.com/GhostofBPH/status/1836957071989706934 And so after I listened to it I went out to talk to the guy working outside and he had already heard this - he told me his wife knew someone in the US military who told her about it - risking his job possibly ? Also - about Russell Bentley - I wonder if this would ever have come to pass if his wife hadn't been so dogged about getting the investigation over and done with. I wonder.
What does that tell us about Col. Wilkerson's credibility given what has been happening inside Russia in the last 3-4 days (i.e. the strategic strikes that the Pentagon is claimed to have deescalated the situation away from have begun)?
this video is from yesterday and he's talking about long range missiles - maybe you didn't listen to the vid - its only about 5 minutes. I think he has more credibility than the comment above the video -by some guy on twitter - I looked up that link Devolution and it was a bunch of trumpards saying Trumps still in charge and hel's gonna save us...what bs
This geo-political struggle between two systems is too often characterised as "Putin vs Biden". Whist the "Russian system" is certainly headed by VVP [an able man] it is not in anyway a dictatorship. The USA/NATO system is headed by no one. So my take is that it is a series of interlocking and not always overlapping set of factions and interest groups, usually but not always negotiating with each other, with power and influence depending on the flux of events and internal political influence. You cannot negotiate with it as there is no one to negotiate with, nor anyone to sign off a deal or to impose a resolution. It does appear at present that the US military (or key parts of it) has (may have) formed the view that the war is now in the stage of diminishing returns and is seeking an out. This view is clearly not shared by others who are seeking to escalate.
Key amongst those looking to escalate are the leadership of MI6. These are not "cowards" as described by Simplicus but experienced and dangerous players of games. Their calculation may well be that by committing attack on Russia proper, its strategic assets and against civilians will cause Russia to either fold or retailiate, triggering Article 5, and that in that event Russia will either lose a war [not in my view] or again fold. My sense is that MI6 is not subject to politial oversight from the Starmer Government (and all those that preceded it) and is being outrageously reckless in its policy. I could quite easily envisage a scenario where the UK is subject to a serious attack and its NATO allies conveniently overlook their NATO committments to avoid involvement. The only real card that the UK has to play is its Trident submarine (one) on patrol. Should the Russians ever be able to track this then the UK will be very close to being destroyed.
The elephant in the room here is the coming winter and what it will bring- a massive tide of refugees sweeping into old europe. It is why border closures are already going up. It is the imminent armageddon for the west that knows that once its own people experience this onslaught it will be game over for their involvement in this war. Their own governments will collapse under the chaotic conditions and mass protests. No deep attacks into Russia are going to hold back this denouement. Russia knows what it has to do to finish Ukraine off, and it will do it, for the same reason the US dropped the Bomb on Japan. It is the only way to bring this horror to an end because the cowardly west does not even have the courage to pull the plug itself.
The war will be brought to an end by a tide of war ravaged humanity, not by way of any special wonder weapon. Or maybe this is the wonder weapon to end all wonder weapons- the Russian winter.
Russian winter won’t be needed, all over Europe the see level is rising far above everyone’s mouth… Zel, Macro, Schol all trying to save the furniture while burning even Rome has never seen during Nero’s reign, the fire brigade Blink, Kama and Bide coming too late to extinct the fire.
>The elephant in the room here is the coming winter and what it will bring- a massive tide of refugees sweeping into old europe
Do you bozos ever go back to even the very recent past to check back on your predictions and reevaluate?
Clearly not.
We heard it all about the refugess streaming into Europe already in late 2022. Did it happen? Did it later happen in 2023?
If the Kremlin wanted to shut Ukraine down, it would have been done on October 10 2022 during that first massive missile strike. It wasn't and still hasn't been. Whoever is telling you that, you see, it is very hard to take out the grid, Russia is trying very hard for two years now, but it just can't be done, is an absolute idiot who you should immediately stop listening to. It could have and should have been done on Day 1. It wasn't and it still isn't for political reasons.
I will happily do a rain check with you if this war actually runs into the winter.
As for the refugee issue in 2022., welcoming them then was all part of the big western propaganda theatre, shaping the narrative terrain. Not so much now, to indulge in a massive understatement.
Russia never tried to PERMANENTLY shut down the Banderan territories electricity grid until November, 2023. Estimates are the grid is now 70-80% permanently destroyed. Your thoughts?
"for the same reason the US dropped the Bomb on Japan."
It is not the same reason at all. The criminal US dropped the two Oppenheimer bombs as a warning to the USSR and as a test. Japan was on the ropes and was discussing a surrender.
No, The Japanese had just rejected an offer of peace that would have guaranteed the Emperor’s existence on July 26th. The bombs are dropped August 6th, 9th. The Japanese were awaiting amphibious invasion that they were quite prepared to repel at great cost. This likely would have succeeded as they had enormous land and considerable air reserves mustered.
The Japanese had no answer to blockade - what they didn’t know was the US Navy was skeptical they could sustain blockade, never mind had concluded after Okinawa that invasion would fail.
The Japanese don’t have any answers to the Atomic Bomb, so the Emperor cast essentially his hand for peace, in no way Constitutionally was he an absolute ruler, indeed the Cabinet was highly dysfunctional for war Constitutionally, as it required a cabinet to agree among the top 6 leaders, mostly army and navy. Manchurian loss was a shock, but it didn’t enter into the deliberations on surrender or keep fighting. Everything at that point was about the Home Islands.
I am puzzled to see certain countries on that list, considered to adopt neo-liberal social values, like Greece, Italy, Romania, Spain, etc. Orthodoxy and Catholicism run deep through these ones and they are all socially very conserveative.
Orthodoxy and eternal debt for freeing it from Ottoman Turks didn't stop Bulgaria from partaking in two World Wars on the German side. These days you can't be in the Western alliance and not embrace all its degeneracy, so all of EU and NATO gets included barring two countries that were sensible enough to elect leaders repelling the agenda - Hungary and Slovakia.
It looks like basically the whole west is on it, including European micro states Andorra, Liechtenstein, Monaco and San Marino which have less than a thimble to piss in.
But not Vatican City, interestingly enough.
Spain btw is not that socially conservative considering they opened up marriage to same sex couples all the way back in 2005.
There were some changes regarding that. I can assure you that my country, Spain, is heading for disaster with no possibility of turning back. We deserve to be on the banned list: we maintain a miserable puppet government whose only job is to maintain the line of the 2030 agenda and form an untouchable power clique. Soon, the people here will not be able to protest or oppose it, or even criticize it under penalty of fine or arrest. But my age no longer allows me to start an adventure in Russia, that is why I say: May the good Lord protect us!
More EuroDisney. That was the point. We intended that, 🇺🇸 we did. After getting sucked in twice in one generation are we to blame? They would have done it again already.
Europe is Africa with better table manners. Endless wars.
Genug. Enough.
Even India and the Commonwealth weren’t going to show again.
Now as this vital point wasn’t put into the schoolbooks for Dummies that Vindman, Nuland read and written in Crayon for George Bush 43 types, this the vital point was lost, and we’re just having trouble extracting ourselves.
This is why NOTHING in the way of alliances must EVER be more than transactional. Alliances are ruinous, it’s a question of how much ruin? Shall it be one ruins the other or mutual?
The good news is THEY in Europe clearly have no fight left…
If we can just get clear without nuclear war, ultimately it’s to the good, I suppose.
Except she’s a moron.
There’s that
Her Immanence .
Well, she's certainly not transcendent.
The Brits are scum, always have been. I say this as one.
City of London (real jewry capital not TLV, not WS) is bankrupted since lehman (2008) all stats are fakes, same in vast majority or western countries.
Jew usury destroys all humanity.
Tsk Tsk The gvmt maybe surely, but every single brit? There are red lines you know
If the brit peoples are in need of help to the path to resistance you are there to tell them how and who to do, are you not?
Whenever I talk about a country, I am always referring to the government!
Ok
.... but it is needful to make this clear - most people, or many, confound the two
As do or pretend to do governments
Another discussion is to how the peoples are complicit or unduly submissive with/to the various oppressions or extortions their governments extract, internal and ex
A large swath of the UK population would welcome Russian intervention to remove this parasite government
We don't need violence, only a democratic electoral system.
No one mentions BRICS?
We fought two wars for them already.
You mean started.
The idea tha UKP is a safer havinen than the USD is some next-level insanity.
Bongistan talks mad shit for a country in Sarmat/Burevestnik/Poseidon range. Also, more demented ravings from Bojo:
Boris Johnson: "Our message to Russia is this. It's over. You don't have an empire anymore, we don't allow that in modern world. You no longer have a "near abroad" or a "sphere of influence." You have no right to tell Ukrainians what to do, just as we British have no right to tell our former colonies what to do. It's time for Putin to understand that Russia can have a happy and glorious future, but like Rome and like Britain, Russians must join the ranks of post-imperial powers.
We must abandon any idea that Ukrainians will make a deal. They won't go. They will not trade land for peace. Their will to fight has not weakened, and it seems to me that the country would rather collapse into anarchy and civil war than submit to partition.
The first step to sanity is to understand that there is no decent compromise with Putin. We need to give Ukrainians the right to use the weapons they already possess. Secondly, we need to provide a loan package on the scale of lend-lease: half a trillion dollars, or even a trillion. The third and most important thing is that we need to bring Ukraine into NATO now, and I mean right now.
We could invite Ukraine to join before the end of the war."
It's true he said all that ? - he's still getting paid then, or else 'they' own his dog
Can you provide a link please
Uk is broken (bojo and stammer own words) these idiots want to find a trillion...what a joke.
The UK is being double fisted.
about time-- they have been behind so much blood and carnage in my life time-- all while hiding behind their muscle-- the US. The City of London needs to be taken down.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/its-time-to-let-ukraine-join-nato/
Leave it to the experts in throwing empires away to lecture Russia on how it should be done.
Thanks TMTO
Please let me quote the first few sentences - this is sugar fiction as only the Brits can do
'The young amputee had a question. We were sitting once again in the rehab centre in Kyiv, and I was looking at the same sort of injuries I saw last year: the missing limbs, the cranial scars, the withered hands and feet that no longer obeyed their owners’ commands.
The difference was that Vladimir Putin’s carnage had been inflicted on a new group of Ukrainians – noticeably younger than last year’s victims, and now including a woman. Once again, I shook their hands (where possible) and put my arms around them, and did my best to be reassuring to all, including the young man on the bed, who had lost his left leg up to the hip. ‘When are you going to let us use the Storm Shadow?’ he asked – amid a general murmur of agreement.'
This whole need to impose a strategic defeat on Russia thing is unhinged delusion. They had Russia at it's weakest in the 90's and blew it. Now with no plan with any possibility of success, they are driving a whole new opposition coalition together, BRICS etc, who's express purpose is ensuring the survival of humanity.
How in the hell can the US plead innocent to the UN top indictment, the crime of aggression? Being a hitman is illegal, but hiring one is just fine, thank you very much. Going around the world stirring up trouble is past it's best before date. They are on to us, time for a new schtick. There is no money in peace, so that's out, hmm pandemics?
Nonsense. NATO and the pentagon is already running this war. Look at the results. Now you want nato troops to show up and do what? NATO does not have a ground troop army except for the Polish. And that’s only a fraction of what they need. They are not combat ready either. They need 5x more troops than what nato already has. This joining nato nonsense was never serious. Just a carrot to dangle in front of the mindless Ukrainians to get them to go along with the “til the last Ukrainian” plan.
Even if NATO had a vast paper army most of it has no desire whatsoever to fight on the Russian front. There would be mass flight and surrender, and NATO would never recover from the humiliation- which is why it has no intention of acting out Johnson's war-porn on the ground.
True but the Lithuanians are combat ready (all 5 of them) 😬
LOL
Do they have that many? 😆
And all Johnsons words show is who is truly behind all this--incapable to act on it unless the US does it for them-- remind you of a small middle eastern country. ?
Is it so hard to make the obvious logical connections between things?
Let's first look at another situation -- a hypothetical war with Iran. Everyone will tell you that the US is doomed in a conventional war with Iran. Iran has more missiles, has hidden its key military infrastructure deep inside the mountains, is impossible to invade on the ground because it is rimmed with mountains, etc. etc. Iran also has very good air defense, and the US doesn't even have all that many missiles. So in a hypothetical war the US might be able to fire a couple thousand cruise missiles, of which 80-90% will be shot down, the rest will hit, but as we have seen in Ukraine, which was hit by literally thousands of cruise missiles but it is still fighting hard, that won't win you any war. We also have the example of Germany in WWII -- let's say Iran is hit by 500 cruise missiles, that is just 250 tons of warheads. Germany received many thousands and was still fielding a formiddable army. And that was done by planes flying directly above -- no planes will be able to fly over Iran. Yeah, now it's PGMs, and unlike Putin in Ukraine, the US will strike directly at the most painful targets, but still.
Yet then we have two observations that make absolutely no sense in the context of the above:
1) Iran keeps taking hit after hit after hit without responding, even though if it was to go all out and defeat its enemies, it does have the military-technical means to do so in a conventional conflict. Hits that include things like being bombed in its own capital, its president and FM being assassinated, its embassies being target by cruise missiles, etc. etc.
2) Powerful forces in the US and in Israel keep pushing for a war that they have no means of winning conventionally.
What is the way out of that conundrum? It is in the word "conventional". If the US and Israel in fact intend to strike with nukes, then the whole calculus changes, and the behavior of everyone starts to make much more sense.
Now let's take this line of thinking to Eastern Europe. What do we have there?
NATO has very little in terms of ground forces to take on Russia, and just had much of the relevant equipment blown up in the killing fields of eastern Ukraine.
NATO also has a serious missile gap with respect to Russia, same situation as Iran.
And yet NATO is escalating and Russia is cowering in fear.
What does that tell us?
Then we have giant columns of red-hot plasma going up in the sky at key military sites in Russia, and people still can't see the obvious that is right in front of their eyes...
"What does that tell us?"
It tells us you are dead from the neck up.
Personally, I've suspected for the last 5 years that the US may have, or thinks it has, perfected an anti ICBM weapon. Your comment is what I've been wondering all the time lately.
I also think Israel will be the first to use nukes in the modern age.
My suspicion is along two other lines:
1) Nukes in space (Starlink with its thousands of satellites would be a very convenient way to situate those under plausible deniability cover; the Starlink V2 satellites are in fact big enough to hold sever warheads each). There is no defense against that, they will just drop directly onto their targets with single-digit minutes of flight time and barely any detection.
2) Planted nukes inside major cities. Russian internal security has been mostly completely broken for three decades now, it would have been trivial to smuggle fairly large warheads and place them in strategic locations.
Now of course the exact same applies to the West -- it has no air defense to speak of, and its internal security is also completely compromised. Anyone can smuggle anything into the US too. But the question is who is crazy enough to play that kind of a game, and in a game of chicken whoever is crazier usually wins.
Though there might be something about the anti-ICBM defenses, it might explain the Russian persistence with the Burevestnik and Sarmat projects and also Russia still taking hits instead of destroying NATO (and thus the Sarmat explosion in Plesetsk yesterday is an absolutely devastating blow).
Ah! Don'g sh*t yourself while saying this!
The “first step to sanity” is to realize the puppet leaders of all the western countries are totally insane. Once you realize that then you are on the right track. Anything else is living in a fantasy reality.
They're not "insane" exactly; they're living in their own bubble, in which speeches and votes in Parliament, and the support of their "public opinion" driven by their own propaganda, is what matters to them - regardless of what is happening in the real world.
They are not insane. They are Jews who only care about Jews and their greater Israel project. All else are goyim.
stfu nazi
Dhhh is a one-trick pony, so to speak.
The are neither insane nor are they stupid.
They are sociopaths.
The bottom line is they need to go. Either the people remove them or they stop listening to them.
Humans are herd animals to rival any sheep or lemming.
>Bongistan talks mad shit for a country in Sarmat/Burevestnik/Poseidon range
"Bongistan" is freely striking at the country with the Sarmats, Bureversniks and Poseidons, and nothing is striking Bongistan in return.
Who is winning then?
Freely striking... With what exactly? Challenged 2s that did so badly Bongistan ordered their use to be stopped to salvage what broken fragments remain of their pride? Shit Shadows which couldn't do more than pothole the Kersch bridge for a day after a sustained barrage? I suppose their greatest achievement was convincing Ukraine and Zelensky to commit national suicide on order to "strike freely at the Russians", which neatly plays into Bongistan 's national identity as cowards hiding behind the rest of Europe, who present their hind quarters for the pleasure of their tormentors.
Why don't you go to the front?
Who in their right mind would go to a meaningless meat grinder that is kept going only because the ruling elites are trying to make a deal with the enemy instead of doing what is fully in their power to do and end it all in a few weeks?
This shit show continues for a third year now.
Very glad that 6th column psychopath like you are not in power in Moscow.
He is about to go, and intend to nagging the enemy to go crazy.
Go back trolling on MOA, on X etc..how is genius Strelkov doin?
Boris needs reminding that Russia never told the Ukrainians what to do. It sought to enforce a treaty granting self determination for ethnic Russians in the east whom the Ukrainians were persecuting in defiance of international law. Russia had right on its side, right from the start. And it still does. Which is why it is winning.
It had right on its side from the start, but that's not why it is winning. It's winning because it has a bigger and better military backed by natural resources and a sound industrial base, and leaders who are in contact with reality.
That is all connected with the ability to be 'right'. It is what tends to happen to you when you connect with reality and act on it with a sound mind. The foundation of virtue is in the intellect not the passions. Socrates said this. But the Egyptians got here first with their concept of Maat.
Right has nothing to do with it. This is a question of power, pure and simple.
Pure power only holds sway where right is nowhere to be seen. It was Gandhi's point. Right trumps might. Every time. The hard bit is being 'right'.
Ghandi himself said that moral arguments only work on those willing to be swayed by them.
The fact that not Russia or any other state operates by nonviolence is telling.
To paraphrase Gandhi- First the opponent- with all the might- ignores you, then it laughs at you, then it fights you, then you win.
That tracks pretty closely how the west behaved towards Russia over Ukraine since 2014 and how this interaction is reaching its conclusion.
Non violence is a red herring. What matters is having right on your side. It is for that reason that Russia was not crushed early on by the sanctions.
So Ghandi is treated as an oracle, but only sometimes.
If right were might, then the wold would look very different. It's not.
Agree. Bojo is trulY in the sam league as Mad Dog Churchill. Instigating war, put more gasoline on fires, divide and destroy the European Mainland (France and Germany). As can be noted the new Axis of self-imposed importance goes DC-London-Warsawa, Not through Paris-Berlin. UK has even a Defence minister straight out from a movie picture about Idi Amin.
Churchill's main achievement was the complete (and completely unnecessary) destruction of his own country's wealth. His modern equivalent is Zelensky, not Bojo.
While he lived as a king subservient to the Jew.
Stop lying adolph
The ‘focus group’ owned Churchill. Churchill was a puppet of 'the bankers' (read: the Jews) who wanted to destroy Nazi Germany.
THE NAZIS WANTED TO DESTROY US ARE YOU LIKE
I CANT EVEN
Shut up Jew
IM JEWISH
Are you gonna say Heil Sieg next?
haha
Yes The drunk Churchill and bojo the clown are both just Jew boot lickers.
didn't know this was a Nazi site
Sadly there are pure racists desecrating this site.
Boris Johnson is a malignant clown but hopefully is a spent force now.
He’s the face of others who prefer not to be seen.
The sick pathetic messenger clown.
Don't kid yourself. Johnson is sent to deliver important messages, his opinions are printed by major papers, etc..
Is it not somewhat strange that the safest place for Ukraine is inside NATO as Russia would not dare attack a NATO nation. Yet at the same time fearing that Russia would start attacking NATO states after a Ukrainian defeat. It is like the European nations that have spread brotherly love and freedom to distant shores through genocide subjugation, by slavery and stealing the lands and resources of indigenous peoples going to the borders and invading the evil Russians to stop Russian imperialism. It's as if the western double think makes no logical sense if you think about it, but thinking is hard work.
AS a real Ukrainian I am calling BS
NATO thinks different;; they are all saying Russia will attack unless we do this or that urgently ...all over the place all over the time
You know NATO better than NATO knows NATO - so three cents to you
"Is it not somewhat strange that the safest place for Ukraine is inside NATO as Russia would not dare attack a NATO nation. Yet at the same time fearing that Russia would start attacking NATO states after a Ukrainian defeat."
it's a pretext. NATO is like a barrooom bully looking for a fight and using any excuse to start one.
Bozo does not officially speak for the UK, being a disgraced and very much ex-PM. So you can read his comments as either a personal frolic or his being used as a medium to sell a narrative, or both. I tend to the latter - I suspect he is badly compromised and must do as he is told.
He did spend a large amount of time on jeffery's island. Remember that the fbi siezed 137 terabytes of video from there.
Epstein the Jew working for mossad. don't leave that part out skippy....
The fact is that London still controls Canada and Australia, as well as the US. Bojo words are the words of a serial professional liar who arrested 60 million people while he was drunk partying. What can anyone expect from such a criminal character. The claim the UK is not an empire controling multiple tax havens, overseeas territories and huge dominions are equal to the clain the press and media are free and independent in the west. It would be easy for anyone to throw the truth to his face but nobody really dares in the west, which is a another sympton of the lie. And that's the real problem. The total moral decline of the European civilisation.
"The total moral decline of the European civilisation."
^^THIS^^^ on steroids.
Thanks to the Jew parasite
Nazi troll
what's wrong with the Nazis? why would you side with the sin merchants? do you like felatio on cut baby penis and chicken swinging?
i think hes insane
effing nazi get off of this site and go visit göring
The west is just a colony of the Jew.
A one-track mind is not a good look, sonny.
perhaps try getting in touch with reality - name the jew or live as their bootlicker.
Wow. You deliver the cut direct. This reality you speak of, where is it, and how do I get in touch with it?
im jewish!
And i agree!
I control the west with my shadow Jew-Cabal
/s
DEATH TO NAZISM
Yes the UK does exert direct control over various areas here in Canada primarily through our very similar political and legal structures, but it is different in the US. There it is much more of a mutually beneficial relationship there -- the City of London financial benefit and the MIC benefits for the UK's muscle-- the US. Add to that the shared Neo-con power of both countries currently showing as the mutual hatred/need to pillage feelings towards Russia. Add to that the US corporate supremacy especially around oil/gas. UK is out foxed there. Great video to watch is the latest? by Mike Benz---he dissects what is truly behind the money /corprorate moves behind UK -- yup Chevron is involved.
Total horse shit.
The projection is palpable. Long life the death of the UK and its Empire (of which I live in)
Bojo, rejected by Monty Python, found a niche in the very sad comedy troupe known as Brit Politics. Bigly sad.
Someone needs to tell bloviating Bojo that the UK is nothing but small pompous shithole island with an economy smaller than California.
That Carnival-of-Monsters Tilurian Raymond Phytang Olé Buscuit Barrel Bongo Johnson is a psycotic combination of Russia-Derangement Syndrome, acute narcissism, and uncontrollable greed. A detestable asshole, with a clorox-bleached 'Name-of-The-Rose' haircut.
You all are out doing yourself at the comedy and the characters Bravo
What Boris neglects to point out is the colonies seemed to be better off under British rule.
The English mouse squeaks.
Every country on earth is in range for the 2M39.
EU Commission comedian attempts to re found EU defence Indsutry continues to fail
A new post of Defence Commissioner has been created, even if the EU does not have a defence policy, by definition, in fact they have a Peace Commissioner, because by law the EU is not to concern itself with Defence, nor of course by implication with Peace
Even if an old Lit, he’s said to be as blood thirsty as the new Lits we reported on recently
However he’s not getting a leg up from the MSM, even Reuters had the nerve to point out the post is a pig in pyjamas, not once but on reports on successive days
What few have noticed is that he is also the Commissioner for Space, which gives new meaning to the old phrase Space Race, and to word salading about Safe Space that might fuel KK’s re entry into TV cameras
Is it not strange that Space is a purely a subsection of Defence ?
Annexe and Links
« New EU defence chief to fight political battles with military edge « Sept 17 Reuters https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/new-eu-defence-chief-fight-political-battles-with-military-edge-2024-09-17/
« Europe must prepare to meet Russia militarily in 6-8 years, says its new defence chief » 18 Sept 2024 Reuters https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/europe-must-prepare-meet-russia-militarily-6-8-years-says-its-new-defence-chief-2024-09-18/
VILNIUS, Sept 18 (Reuters) - The European Union must be quick to increase its defences as Russia may be ready for a confrontation in six to eight years, the nominee to be the EU's first defence commissioner told Reuters in an interview.
Andrius Kubilius, a former prime minister of Lithuania, Russia's neighbour, has been tapped to boost the continent's arms industry, by getting EU countries spend more on European weapons and procure jointly - as well as by getting companies themselves to cooperate more across borders.
The new post reflects how security has risen to the top of the EU's political agenda since Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine.
"Defence ministers and NATO generals agree that Vladimir Putin could be ready for confrontation with NATO and the EU in 6-8 years," Kubilius, a fierce critic of Russia and a supporter of Ukraine, said on Wednesday.
"If we take these assessments seriously, then that is the time for us to properly prepare, and it is a short one. This means we have to take quick decisions, and ambitious decisions," he said.
Kubilius said his first job as a commissioner would be to explore, jointly with EU top diplomat nominee Kaja Kallas, what resources the European Union needs to be ready for a military challenge. He is aiming to complete an exploratory study within the first 100 days.
He said underinvestment of more than a trillion euros in the decade since the financial crisis meant the European defence industry was in an "unsatisfactory condition".
SPENDING NOT SOURCING
Kubilius faces an uphill battle against several EU governments which are deeply wary of giving Brussels a say in how they organise their defence industries.
The European Commission has no legal mandate to formulate defence policies, and EU countries coordinate their defence through NATO.
Kubilius sees his job as complementary to NATO, not in competition.
"The European Union won't have defence plans or military leadership, like NATO does - but the European Union has instruments to get larger financing, which NATO doesn't", he said.
This is by design of course - it is hoped that these tiny countries can be whipped into a frenzy of self sacrifice as per the NAZI's
But none of them would last more than 10 minutes and the old soldiers in NATO presumbably have a clue about this
It's those news Scandi think tankers one will have to watch out for - they are the Fourth Reich
These guys link in to US PMC, the future is their's
They can hold their noses with the best of the Buttigiegs
Only difference is that the penguins survive.
Neu German and Nova Scandi Fourth Reich Links
« Germany is rearming too slowly to stand up to Russia’
10 September 2024
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/news/germany-is-rearming-too-slowly-to-stand-up-to-russia/
« Fit for war in decades : Europe’s and Germany’s slow re armament vis-à-vis Russia »
September 2024
fw-kiel.de/publications/fit-for-war-in-decades-europes-and-germanys-slow-rearmament-vis-a-vis-russia-33234/
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/fileadmin/Dateiverwaltung/IfW-Publications/fis-import/1f9c7f5f-15d2-45c4-8b85-9bb550cd449d-Kiel_Report_no1.pdf
« Designing around NATO’s deterrence : Russia’s Nordic information confrontation strategy
Journal of Strategic Studies Karen Anna Eggen
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/01402390.2024.2332328?needAccess=true
Journal of Strategic Studies
‘The strategic-level effects of long rage strike weapons ; A framework for analysis »
Journal of Strategic Studies Fabian Hoffmann
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/01402390.2024.2351500?needAccess=true
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/fabian-hoffmann1_the-strategic-level-effects-of-long-range-activity-7201569883476701186-uuZH
« The end of Zietenwende’
German Council on Foreign Relations August 30 2024 Benjamin Tallis
https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/end-zeitenwende
https://dgap.org/en/research/programs/alfred-von-oppenheim-center-future-europe/action-group-zeitenwende#members
https://ip-quarterly.com/en/zeitenwende-here-its-just-unevenly-distributed
https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/germany-needs-finish-job-and-think-bigger
https://www.hudson.org/foreign-policy/germany-remains-denial-over-its-russia-policy
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ruprecht-polenz-fordert-enquete-kommission-zu-aufarbeitung-von-deutscher-russland-politik-a-cbfb377b-e4b1-4864-b3ba-6401ba49434c
Again. They are just tools of the Jew
Give it a rest adolph
Shut up Jew
Take your meds
Typical Jew response. Go swing a chicken schlomo.
stfu hitler
Spot on. In due course this eastern region will find itself all that is left of that weird post war european ''EU' architecture fantasised by Churchill. The western former EU nations will have made their own variously messy exits. It is already underway.
Then what? Abandoned by the new centres of wealth, The Baltics et al, will be driven by their people to apply to join the RF. The likes of Germany, France and the UK will limp on as colonies of the US exploited as such, and useful sites for dumping of toxic US produce (and services, especially health (sic) services destined for the UK.)
Here you have it, the actual victory plan.
The fuss over Draghi's presentation is much overstated, as it is merely in self defence - given that he initiated many of the programs that resulted in EU problems
This is infighting between various EU types and to not be taken seriously
One must be fairly sure than neither Frnce nor Germany is to be quite so self sacrificial as to allow the EU C either money or guns
VdL is merely making the right noises so as to be appointed NATO Chief, or Head of the Federal Reserve Board or something
Elegantly put, Cheetos. You have no problem finding the words. But I agree, you won't find any legitimated public platform for them. Group think always reduces to lowest common denominator slogans which render it impotent to change anything. It ceases to connect to the real world.
The group mind has never found a solution to this. Pray to the gods it never will.
If recent history is an example, it's too late, unfortunately. That doesn't mean a reversal can't take shape but that would require a major revolution in the West. If I am looking at the sloth-like "thinkers'" of today's political elite and the debauched masses, I can't see that happening any time soon.
"...the war in Ukraine, a mythologized historical event by now, is an event one can speak of in only a certain way."
Very true. That's type 1 verses type 2 thinking.
A certain Mister Vladimir Vladimirovich must be pleased that he has been promoted from a mere human being to a demonic Prince of Hell who not only can unleash Armagedón upon the earth but can also do spooky mind control at a distance. Listen to his diabolical lies and he can take over your very soul and make you into his slave!
It's worth noting that the Baltic states and Ukraine fall within Halford Mackinder's "Zone of conflict" in his Eurasian "World Island" schema.
That's not too bad for a theory written down in 1904 when the fastest form of transport was the steam locomotive, and the fastest communication was the telegraph.
10-20 years ago, nobody was talking about Mackinder, 10-5 years ago almost anyone who had said that Eurasianism was an antiquated fantasy.
No so many people are pooh-poohing it now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History
It's worth noting that the Baltic states and Ukraine fall within Halford Mackinder's "Zone of conflict" in his Eurasian "World Island" schema.
That's not too bad for a theory written down in 1904 when the fastest form of transport was the steam locomotive, and the fastest communication was the telegraph.
10-20 years ago, nobody was talking about Mackinder, 10-5 years ago almost anyone who had said that Eurasianism was an antiquated fantasy.
No so many people are pooh-poohing it now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History
A HS friend married an Estonian girl and her red hot hatred of Russia and Russians always baffled me. I thought she would catch on fire-hot! At the same time...colder than a dead witch's tit.
Steady now CS that's the Honourable KK's you are describing
hmm
maybe its because shes estonian, but i'm just spitballing
For CS - perhaps this guy was dragged out of his rest home by KK in an attempt to show her service is worthwhile
But she has made enemies of Séjourné Breton and Macron so she must N° 1 on VdL to be burnt at the stake list
I 'm looking for his Safe Space Race reommendations - He will de colonise Space, - Who will vote for dogs and emotional support animals, who will vote for.......suggestions on a postcard please
That's a hit -another LitLat - old, young, ice maiden or aged alcoholic?
VdL surrounds herself with those she can burn at a moment's notice
If this one is going to take on Armenia and/or Georgia she'll not last long
Armenia is another diaspora victim country the NATO ites have bought into the holocaust misery and want to be nice
But the locals Azerbaijanis Iranis and so on will swallow the country if they try any EU ing
Can you provide a brief bio of the Lat, for collectors of the last gasp of the Baltics
CS
This is the deal: her math is bigger than his math
Now let's take a deep dive into that math
He's been given 48 hours to brush up on Space, what and where, how big how small
The fact that no one in the EU has ever thought about Space is the clue that now is too little too late
Mammoth responsibilities first and foremost is how to give inteviews on tv when manifestly drunk - the art of the Juncker
VdL has Pfizer ritalin to bio war her mouth, and hair
Her Hair a defence industry all on it's own
His portfolio is non existent, and the EUC is not going to get there , to a defence army money or guns, by stealth, or by appointing a dead dog to the post
He looks like a lost Lit St Bernard recovering from his last binge and fearful of the dominatrix's whip
Even if the EU parliament approves the post creation and says we are going to invade Serbia , nothing will change
"Kubilius said his first job as a commissioner would be to explore, jointly with EU top diplomat nominee Kaja Kallas, what resources the European Union needs to be ready for a military challenge. "
That's easy - willing people to join, raw materials, industrial capacity, competent military leadership who know something about war, responsible political leadership and well.....money - none of which they currently possess, nor are they likely to. Oh, and of course and above all, cheap Russian energy... ;-)
KK would not know a resource from a Space bug
The German and the French ruling class are - to be sure- very stupid - but to give up their armies, their only means of protection against their own people, this they will not do
Even the last Kings of France before the Revolution did not hand over the army to an alien invader, and VdL is an alien
EU is deranged. It was never meant as a defense organisation. And who controls who? NATO and EU cant both have the word. It is so insane
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
Space is Safe
I think the "deep strike" will be allowed at some point, close to the end of this farce. Not to give the gullible Ukrainians a chance to win, but to try and squeeze the last few drops out of the Russian federation to deplete them. Nuland and the neocon cabal pop a bottle for any slav killed
It's already happening
If you have noticed they have already commited 3 deep-strike. No one can tell me that these small ukrainian drones could do so much damage.
Lol of course it will allowed, I mean when was the last time these fat fuck Boomer leaders ever “muLLEd oVeR” something and DIDN’T approve it?
The conflict is over, the western neocons just can't accept this fact.
On September 26, Biden will meet with Zelensky, who will present his "victory plan" which is based on a complete Russian capitulation just like the previous so-called "peace plan".
[Spoiler: both these plans are 100% unrealistic].
We know the points. Here they are. That's what all the demagoguery about the "second peace summit" with the participation of Russia and China is about.
All the points are painted with the responsibilities and area of responsibility of all countries that thought that the security guarantee agreements they signed with Ukraine were just declarations. Now Washington and London will force the signatory countries to do all this.
The main purpose of the plan: to bind the Russian Federation economically by imposing new secondary restrictions on the work of banks around the world, to strangle the countries of the global south, to force them to refuse to purchase oil through a shadow tanker fleet with the threat of arrest of all officials and their family members abroad for aiding the Kremlin.
The second goal is even sweeter - to bring the whole world to its knees through secondary sanctions.
1. Permission to strike at critical infrastructure facilities deep into Russia.
2. Attacks on military units and places of permanent deployment of units of law enforcement agencies.
3. Carrying out terrorist attacks on Russian soil.
4. Attacks on power plants and generation facilities.
5. Further confiscation of officials' property in the West.
6. The embargo on the supply of medicines, medical equipment, and components for their production from Asian and Latin American countries to the Russian Federation.
7. Termination of purchases of Russian gas by all EU countries.
8. The embargo on the issuance of visas to all citizens of the Russian Federation, except for short-term ones up to 1 month.
9. Secondary restrictions for countries in Asia and the Middle East, where the daughters of Russian companies do business.
10. The issuance of ICC warrants for a pool of Russian current officials and employees to narrow the window of opportunity to establish ties with countries that have not joined the sanctions policy.
11. Actively check all citizens of the Russian Federation who have a residence permit of the allied countries and create lists of "good Russians" (those who want to be slaves of the Western globalist elites) and further restrictions for "bad Russians" (those who defend the sovereignty and the interests of their country).
12. The approved transfer of gold reserves by the UN General Assembly to the balance of the "Ukrainian peace Fund", in case Moscow refuses peace talks according to the Zelensky formula.
13. The supply and guidance of long-range weapons from air carriers to all targets approved by the Pentagon.
14. A ban on ships flying the Russian flag entering all EU ports.
15. Measures of sanctions pressure on Belarus and members of the Lukashenko family in order to seize the country or ignite a civil war to enlarge the conflict.
According to the classics, peace is war.
>7. Termination of purchases of Russian gas by all EU countries.
Good. Maybe then the Gazprom oligarchy will lift its veto on the proper prosecution of the war and we will finally see decisive action taken? We can only dream...
The hubris of the zionist non-president in the face of total destruction makes a fool of him.
Zelensky’s victory plan? lol. I wonder who came up with that label?
The Ukrainian gov is living in a state of total delusion. Under their stewardship, they have led Ukraine as well as the world into a state of total destruction with their stupidity, corruption and total unconsciousness.
All anyone has to do is look at a map and the statistics of the results of this war. Yet, they think they will be in charge of anything after the war ends? They are living in a total fantasy reality.
Yes. But there’s obviously a lot at stake, still. As suicidal as this looks, it seems the western elites have gone all in. The next few months are crucial I believe. Because the western rulers (whoever they are) have to leverage the war to win the American presidency. Blackrock has already made a deal to rebuild Ukraine. IMO it will not happen, but have the corporate titans accepted that fact yet? I hope I’m wrong but it seems to me western leaders won’t stop until they have been decisively defeated. We haven’t seen that yet.
The masses have to wake up from their coma. Eventually, it will happen. But not until the damage has already been done.
They won't. Humans are herd animals to rival any sheep or lemming.
There is the victory plan that is presented for public consumption, and then there is the real plan, which is for Ukraine to hold on until after the US elections, which is when NATO will directly and openly intervene.
Thank you Simplicius. Talking points and "permissions" aside, the humans have been given orders to start wars they can't win to collapse america and the west.
>What needs to be said is it’s quite comical that Ukraine claims to require NATO help to “strike deep” into Russia when they just hit such a big depot 500-600km, which is superior to the range of ATACMS, Storm Shadows, and the like. It goes to show the ‘deep strike’ red herring is meant merely to instigate a NATO-Russia conflict rather than add new capabilities Ukraine lacks.
It's even more comical to watch people refuse to see what is right in front of their eyes.
"Drones" don't do this kind of damage, nor do ammo depots consisting of many dozens of isolated bunkers explode all at once into giant singular explosions that send columns of plasma high up in the sky.
Watch the video of the explosions. There may have been drones to disguise what was happening in the main blow, but that main blow consisted of NATO tactical nukes. Highly unlikely to have come from Ukraine, because nobody reported missiles flying north through Bryansk towards Tver. In fact, nobody reported large drone swarms either. So much more likely it came directly launched from Latvia, which also explains how Russian AD was caught with its pants down like that.
But that main thing is it was two or three tactical nukes. If you watched that footage without somebody telling you anything about the time and the place, what would you have thought you were watching? Be honest with yourself.
The Kremlin has swallowed even that, meaning there will be a lot more to come. Unless there is a devastating response, i.e. full destruction of NATO in Europe, ASAP.
However, the traitors in Moscow don't have the guts for that, plus they still have their children and mistresses in the West, which tells us where their real loyalties lie.
ukie troll, strekovite 'aka let's nuke London'..
You can skip most of London (make sure to get the City though) and go straight for the mansions in the countryside. A kiloton each will do the job without too much collateral damage.
If you don't do that. Moscow will burn.
But which place do Russian elites value more? There are serious doubts...
Has anyone measured the radiation levels there on site?
1) Do you seriously expect anyone who did that to report it publicly?
2) There have been very clean nuclear designs for decades now that don't leave all that much of a fallout. These were airburst too
GM, I share your distrust of the current Russian authorities. They have betrayed, are betraying and will betray us at the first opportunity. But... "The authorities are hushing up the nuclear strike"? With such unfounded statements you discredit your position as a whole.
The videos are there for everyone to see with their own eyes
Yes and it obvious to anyone that's not insane that was not a nuclear explosion. You are dumber than jo biden
That's the most retarded thing you've said yet
Those were not nukes, not a chance. There are sensors and detectors all over the world operated by all sorts of countries looking for this sort of thing. Plus the explosions were too small, relatively. But whatever was in those bunkers made a big boom. And yes, the Ukrainians have long range capability, clearly.
Yeah, so small that they blew out the windows ten kilometers away.
And sure, you are not an idiot who cannot run the decision tree with respect to the two main players here.
Would NATO come out and declare "We nuked Russia!"? Of course not, the whole point is doing sneak attacks that can be disguised as "Ukrainians did it with drones". This is what the proxy was prepared for during all these years. And the whole real point of the Ukrainian long-range drone campaign -- to create a plausible deniability cover for covert nuclear strikes.
But then we have the Kremlin, whose perverted incentives are also in the direction of covering it up. Because if they admit they were nuked, then they would have to launch a preemptive first strike on NATO to make sure no additional such strikes will be possible. Either that, or they are finished once the information is out to the whole world that they were nuked and they just took it like the cucks that they are.
The problem is that the Russian elites are still looking for a deal with the West instead of victory over the West, because of internal Russian politics. A Russian victory can only be achieved through seriously weakening the internal position of Russian elites -- it will have to become a new country that is a lot more like the USSR and a lot less like the neoliberal oligarchy it has been for the last three decades. The SMO was a bluff to try to scare the West into making some kind of a deal and to avoid having to fight the West. That bluff is being called increasingly more brutally every day for a third year running now, but clearly Russian elites had no Plan B, and are now willing to take even multiple nuclear bombings (there was yet another big column of plasma going up in the sky over the huge ammo depot in Tihoretsk a couple hours ago, which would make it the fourth such strike) but not do what has to be done to end this.
Stop feeding this troll everyone. Just ignore
Great advice but hard to do as General Moron is such an egregious ignorant troll the urge to smack the cunt down is hard to resist.
It’s valuable to read those with whom you disagree. Gives you a heads up on either what they believe or what they’d like you to believe.
I agree, when it's not trolling.
I've seen the post attack satellite photos. That was no nuke. And, before calling me an idiot, crawl under whatever rock you came from and GFY.
There were no nukes (drop it GM) but there is no explanation how the assumed Ukrainian drones with 25-50kg warhead could send 10 000 tonnes of explosives in to the air in that way. They were stored in a saturated way and behind reinforced concrete or even underground. And were did they come from, the 100+ drones?
Precisely because there is no other explanation and because what you saw looked exactly like a nuke -- singular giant explosion (well, two of them, but presumably you send pairs of missiles in case AD shoots down one), column of plasma reaches very high in the sky, sharp crackling short-lasting sound rather than prolonged grumbling from a chain reaction of detonations -- that the obvious and only explanation that makes sense is that those were nukes.
Windows were blown 10 kilometers away.
Ammo depots don't blow up like that -- it is a lot of secondary explosions and no columns of plasma high into sky with a nice mushroom cap above the clouds on top.
This site consisted of over a hundred individual bunkers, many of them hardened to withstand very serious airbursts. How does that all go off in a single explosion?
There were secondary explosions here, but that was the further away bunkers eventually overheating and going off. The site is giant, you would need a warhead in the hundreds of kilotons to take it all out in a single explosion, and that cannot be concealed. But a small one under 10 kilotons can be.
As we have just seen -- what happened is right in front of everyone's face but people refuse to accept it. Be honest, if I make the footage black and white, run it through some filters to make it look a bit grainy like from the 1950s, and show it to you side by side with some of the smaller surface tests from back then, would you be able to tell which one is which? No. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc.
I understand your frustration. Lets say they nuked the base. Do you think Russia would just let it go? There are a lot of sensors that can pick up even a small nuke going of. Why would that be concealed from us?
From seismograf we know that there were a couple of big explosions, a couple of 2,8 (propably in the old part) and a tremendous 3,2 in the new area (as seen on the video I linked before). From that explosion you see rockets/missile flying all over the place. So something set of a store of many missiles.
I read about those two 100 meters craters in the old part of the site. A guy analysed HD satellite pictures and reported holes in the concrete roofs about 4x7 m, sometimes smaller, sometimes even bigger. Could not be from small drones.
One idea is that they somehow could deliver a significant amount of fuel-air-explosives and set of a chainreaction. I very doubt they used nukes. We wouldnt be sitting texting right now if so.
>Lets say they nuked the base. Do you think Russia would just let it go?
Yes, I do. And they have. This isn't even the first such case, just the worst one so far. The Morozovsk attack on August 3rd also featured a mushroom cloud with a plasma stem. We are still here, right?
The reason this one is so much worse is that in Morozovsk they hit the temporary ammo dump used by the airfield. A few hundred FABs and missiles went out. This, on the other hand, is a national-level ammo storage site. And it's not even related to the SMO, this is the Leningrad Military District, the one that is supposed to guard against NATO attacks from the Baltics and Finland. You see where this is going?
>There are a lot of sensors that can pick up even a small nuke going of. Why would that be concealed from us?
Who is going to report it to you and why?
NATO's scheme is to use covert attacks under the "Ukrainian" proxy cover to force the Kremlin into submission. Why would they tell you they used nukes?
On the other side, if the Kremlin says "we were nuked", then what happens after that? There are two options:
1) They launch an all-out attack on NATO, or at least NATO in Europe (perhaps giving the US a chance to stand down) and annihilate it all. But because NATO's launchers might be quite well dispersed and hidden, that means you basically have to wipe all of those countries out. That is a rather dramatic step that will then have a lot of very serious consequences. I don't need to elaborate, nor do I have the time.
2) They don't launch an all-out attack. But they have then just admitted they were nuked. What does that mean? That they are completely destroyed as a great power and a lot more such attacks can and will follow, openly. Note that even a token attack on NATO will not be enough to re-establish deterrence and standing, as you yourself are just demonstrating (everyone is thinking that any nuclear strike will immediately result in an all-out response; well, not really in practice, but that is what people think)
So if you face those choices conditional upon the information getting out, the incentive is heavily stacked towards keeping it hushed up.
>From seismograf we know that there were a couple of big explosions, a couple of 2,8 (propably in the old part) and a tremendous 3,2 in the new area (as seen on the video I linked before). From that explosion you see rockets/missile flying all over the place. So something set of a store of many missiles.
>One idea is that they somehow could deliver a significant amount of fuel-air-explosives and set of a chainreaction. I very doubt they used nukes. We wouldnt be sitting texting right now if so.
See above regarding us sitting here and texting right now.
If they used a bunker buster nuke, it would have create a much larger earthquake. The North Korean tests that were in 2-6 kiloton range caused earthquakes between 4.5 and 5.2. It was likely some drones first (this is the source of the fires you see on the sides in the video) to deplete on-site SHORAD, then the missiles came but those were airbursts. Those destroyed a lot of stuff directly underneath, then ammo started cooking off from the overpressure and high temperature in the more peripheral bunkers, and this caused the small earthquakes you are referring to.
Your reasoning sounds plausible about Russias dilemma. But we have different opinion based on what we perceive as facts. I see this giant explosion almost 500m in diameter and reaching 1,5 km up in the air. The smaller ones on each side is not from Drones. They are also really big but are dwarfed in comparasion to the big one. Could be each site going of. There is a lot of smoke as if something has exploded before.
What is disturbing is how easy Ukraine can reach deep into Russia (with help from US/NATO) and cause such destruction again and again. I give you that. That the world is full of lies and deceptions is also a fact. Who would have thought that Israel started an operation 15 years ago with the sole purpose to saturate Mid-East with hidden explosives…
There was even more of them simply lying in the boxes on top of the bunkers. So it really didn't take a lot of effort once satellites confirmed the target.
Also, it seems that tonight they hit another arms depot near Toropets. As is usual with the Russian army, eventually they'll get out of lull and start figuring out countermeasures. But once they do, the problem would be to return to that peaceful lull.
On top of the bunkers? Proof?
The satellite pics was taken long time ago not a couple of days ago. There was ammo in the western part sitting out in the daylight. In the new part…why should they climb up to the roof and store ammo there?
There's hardly reason to expect otherwise, given general MO of the Russian army. It took them two and a half years of active warfare to eliminate most cases of clustered formations of troops and large ammo dumps in close vicinity to the front, and this is a relatively very backwater facility.
You mean they are dumb as shit? That is not comforting if true. On the other hand - why not ask yourselves if West just playing around. How come they are discussing ”long-range weapon use” and simlutaneously we see not one, but three, long range attacks with devastating results.
Nope, but rigid AF. You can't even begin to imagine how rigid. As for the second part, now West can say that Ukraine doesn't in fact need deep-strike missiles since it already does have the capability with its own drones. A good exit strategy. Still, I believe we'll get to see a lot more strikes and a NATO country or two erased off the map before this ends.
10,000 tons is 10 kilotons, about the size of Hiroshima blast. And he wonders how that could blow out windows a couple km away?
GM is smart but this Nuke-thing he has to drop. Beirut blast was 3.3 on Richterscale with approx 1 500 ton of equivalent of explosives. In Toropets they recorded about fifteen! 2+ Richterscale explosions - so we can assume that almost the entire base went of with 19 000 tons of ammo lost.
1) Why are you so sure Beirut was a conventional ammonium nitrate explosion?
2) In Toropets it was an airburst from a missile, you don't expect a huge earthquake from that, and for a warhead to produce such a fireball, it would make a much bigger earthquake if it was a surface or subsurface explosion. The smaller North Korean tests from recent years in the sub-10-kiloton range triggered earthquakes in the 4.5-5 range. And remember that the earthquake scale is a logarithmic one. The M2+ earthquakes are individual bunkers cooking off later from the heat.
Beirut was ammonium nitrate but who set of the initial fire/explosion could very well be their neighbour.
Toropets…there is no footage of the initial attack. The fireballs are results from for us unseen explosion. It is ammo/rockets/missiles en masse exploding.
Smart? He is a dumbass copying from his daily assignment sheet at a cubicle in the troll farm. He is dumber than jo biden
Are you really that dense or you are doing it because you have to protect the Substack racket, which would immediately fall apart if you were to tell the truth about what is happening and thus have all the followers that are desperate for having someone tell them daily that Russia is winning abandon you?
How exactly are those 10,000 tons spread over a hundred different hardened bunkers going to explode in a singular explosion? Which we know they didn't even do, because there are still some intact bunkers in the satellite images, there were secondary explosions for quite some time after the first strikes, and the nuclear fireballs in the video were centered on somewhere in the middle of the facility, i.e. one localized part of it.
He is clearly a Korobochka Fan, no doubt, Koro has been cursing anyone who has not believe in the nuke theory for quite a while now.
Sheesh, NATO is using nukes and is still losing to Russia? That's very telling.
Are NATO's strategic ammo depots going up in giant balls of plasma? No. But Russia's are.
Is NATO losing planes? No. But Russia is, and it has a lot fewer of them to begin with.
Does Russia have nuclear missiles 100 miles from NYC or LA? Or even 500 miles from DC? No, but the US can have them at such distances from St. Petersburg and Moscow whenever it wishes, if it has not already permanently situated them.
So how exactly is NATO losing?
Do you think if you just put a positive spin on bad news that it will change reality? Honestly perplexed by your commentary. Every week there is another catastrophe and security failure in Russia. To what extent are the hands of Russian nationalists tied by the influence of oligarchs and spooks.
demonstrably dropped NATO nukes on Russia?
It was not a nuke dumbass
That’s not neoliberalism. Neoliberalism is all about economics. Instead of neoliberalism the word they are looking for is Cultural Left, woke, SJWism, Identity Politics, etc. Summed up by that debauched tranny drag queen insanity at the Olympics and the various horrors of Eurovision.
Neoliberalism is about more than economics. It certainly does encompass a certain social outlook, or at least strikes a particular pose, so to speak, to corral classes and groups that are convinced to think that neoliberal economics is good for them. It is amazingly, unfortunately effective.
Sure but the Cultural Left has nothing do with neoliberalism. People like Putin see that word “liberal” and think it means “liberal Democrat” or cultural liberalism, now the same as the CL.
But it’s talking about another kind of liberalism that has nothing to do with social liberalism, the economics of which is Keynesian.
Putin should know that but maybe he’s blinded by ideology.
Wrong. The "Cultural Left" is a part of neoliberalism. You presume to know what Putin thinks? You sound like a neoliberal Democrat.
This is crap. It’s complete nonsense. The Republican Party is neoliberal! Oh you’re one of those lunatic MAGA fascists just like the author. I can tell by how you talk. You know zero about economics or culture. Now get lost.
No dude. In typical authoritarian style you actually order me to get lost because I told you some truth you dont want to hear.
I'm a Socialist. Both Parties are aligned with Wall Street, both Parties are neoliberal, both Parties support war and Genocide and State terrorism. Now get lost! That's an order!
The tragedy of a state where delusional and corrupt leaders are happy to see huge swathes of their population dead, maimed or losing male relatives, truly an offence to humanity. This war for Ukraine was not defensive or justifiable in any way.
Seems this war is well and truly lost in the kinetic sense, all that remains to be seen is how far are our glorious masters willing to push Russia to the brink of nuclear war. In most of the West our choices for government are between the moral lacking woke liars, the war mongering liars or a combination of both, if younger I'd have a hard think about that Russian offer.
ZE and Yer are not ukies but zios like net and yahoo...not humans.
Kevork Almassian had a very interesting X post with a short video of Col Wilkerson saying the US Military has done basically a soft coup over Blinken Sullivan and Biden - https://twitter.com/GhostofBPH/status/1836957071989706934 And so after I listened to it I went out to talk to the guy working outside and he had already heard this - he told me his wife knew someone in the US military who told her about it - risking his job possibly ? Also - about Russell Bentley - I wonder if this would ever have come to pass if his wife hadn't been so dogged about getting the investigation over and done with. I wonder.
What does that tell us about Col. Wilkerson's credibility given what has been happening inside Russia in the last 3-4 days (i.e. the strategic strikes that the Pentagon is claimed to have deescalated the situation away from have begun)?
this video is from yesterday and he's talking about long range missiles - maybe you didn't listen to the vid - its only about 5 minutes. I think he has more credibility than the comment above the video -by some guy on twitter - I looked up that link Devolution and it was a bunch of trumpards saying Trumps still in charge and hel's gonna save us...what bs
Zion don is just as Jew controlled
This geo-political struggle between two systems is too often characterised as "Putin vs Biden". Whist the "Russian system" is certainly headed by VVP [an able man] it is not in anyway a dictatorship. The USA/NATO system is headed by no one. So my take is that it is a series of interlocking and not always overlapping set of factions and interest groups, usually but not always negotiating with each other, with power and influence depending on the flux of events and internal political influence. You cannot negotiate with it as there is no one to negotiate with, nor anyone to sign off a deal or to impose a resolution. It does appear at present that the US military (or key parts of it) has (may have) formed the view that the war is now in the stage of diminishing returns and is seeking an out. This view is clearly not shared by others who are seeking to escalate.
Key amongst those looking to escalate are the leadership of MI6. These are not "cowards" as described by Simplicus but experienced and dangerous players of games. Their calculation may well be that by committing attack on Russia proper, its strategic assets and against civilians will cause Russia to either fold or retailiate, triggering Article 5, and that in that event Russia will either lose a war [not in my view] or again fold. My sense is that MI6 is not subject to politial oversight from the Starmer Government (and all those that preceded it) and is being outrageously reckless in its policy. I could quite easily envisage a scenario where the UK is subject to a serious attack and its NATO allies conveniently overlook their NATO committments to avoid involvement. The only real card that the UK has to play is its Trident submarine (one) on patrol. Should the Russians ever be able to track this then the UK will be very close to being destroyed.
Yes. People here tends to underestimate the cunning and deadly forces in the West hidden beneath the formal society.
The trident submarine would be the first thing destroyed if it even matter since it seems it is only good as a sex tape location.
That is stupid. The Jew blinken and Sullivan have been running foreign policy. The military just follows orders.
The elephant in the room here is the coming winter and what it will bring- a massive tide of refugees sweeping into old europe. It is why border closures are already going up. It is the imminent armageddon for the west that knows that once its own people experience this onslaught it will be game over for their involvement in this war. Their own governments will collapse under the chaotic conditions and mass protests. No deep attacks into Russia are going to hold back this denouement. Russia knows what it has to do to finish Ukraine off, and it will do it, for the same reason the US dropped the Bomb on Japan. It is the only way to bring this horror to an end because the cowardly west does not even have the courage to pull the plug itself.
The war will be brought to an end by a tide of war ravaged humanity, not by way of any special wonder weapon. Or maybe this is the wonder weapon to end all wonder weapons- the Russian winter.
Russian winter won’t be needed, all over Europe the see level is rising far above everyone’s mouth… Zel, Macro, Schol all trying to save the furniture while burning even Rome has never seen during Nero’s reign, the fire brigade Blink, Kama and Bide coming too late to extinct the fire.
>The elephant in the room here is the coming winter and what it will bring- a massive tide of refugees sweeping into old europe
Do you bozos ever go back to even the very recent past to check back on your predictions and reevaluate?
Clearly not.
We heard it all about the refugess streaming into Europe already in late 2022. Did it happen? Did it later happen in 2023?
If the Kremlin wanted to shut Ukraine down, it would have been done on October 10 2022 during that first massive missile strike. It wasn't and still hasn't been. Whoever is telling you that, you see, it is very hard to take out the grid, Russia is trying very hard for two years now, but it just can't be done, is an absolute idiot who you should immediately stop listening to. It could have and should have been done on Day 1. It wasn't and it still isn't for political reasons.
I will happily do a rain check with you if this war actually runs into the winter.
As for the refugee issue in 2022., welcoming them then was all part of the big western propaganda theatre, shaping the narrative terrain. Not so much now, to indulge in a massive understatement.
Russia never tried to PERMANENTLY shut down the Banderan territories electricity grid until November, 2023. Estimates are the grid is now 70-80% permanently destroyed. Your thoughts?
"for the same reason the US dropped the Bomb on Japan."
It is not the same reason at all. The criminal US dropped the two Oppenheimer bombs as a warning to the USSR and as a test. Japan was on the ropes and was discussing a surrender.
No, The Japanese had just rejected an offer of peace that would have guaranteed the Emperor’s existence on July 26th. The bombs are dropped August 6th, 9th. The Japanese were awaiting amphibious invasion that they were quite prepared to repel at great cost. This likely would have succeeded as they had enormous land and considerable air reserves mustered.
The Japanese had no answer to blockade - what they didn’t know was the US Navy was skeptical they could sustain blockade, never mind had concluded after Okinawa that invasion would fail.
The Japanese don’t have any answers to the Atomic Bomb, so the Emperor cast essentially his hand for peace, in no way Constitutionally was he an absolute ruler, indeed the Cabinet was highly dysfunctional for war Constitutionally, as it required a cabinet to agree among the top 6 leaders, mostly army and navy. Manchurian loss was a shock, but it didn’t enter into the deliberations on surrender or keep fighting. Everything at that point was about the Home Islands.
It was the reason the US gave. That is all. I agree with you.
Japan was also on the offensive in Manchuria. Japan warmongers were idiots. Comparable to what NATO is currently stuck with.
I am puzzled to see certain countries on that list, considered to adopt neo-liberal social values, like Greece, Italy, Romania, Spain, etc. Orthodoxy and Catholicism run deep through these ones and they are all socially very conserveative.
So many italians against this EU Parliament's move. Just check out these threads: https://x.com/elisamariastel1/status/1830890310936764867
I wonder how many of them will end up taking Putin's offer and move to Russia.
basically, i think everywhere where same-sex marriage is legal was put on the list
It is not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_same-sex_unions_in_Romania
Orthodoxy and eternal debt for freeing it from Ottoman Turks didn't stop Bulgaria from partaking in two World Wars on the German side. These days you can't be in the Western alliance and not embrace all its degeneracy, so all of EU and NATO gets included barring two countries that were sensible enough to elect leaders repelling the agenda - Hungary and Slovakia.
It looks like basically the whole west is on it, including European micro states Andorra, Liechtenstein, Monaco and San Marino which have less than a thimble to piss in.
But not Vatican City, interestingly enough.
Spain btw is not that socially conservative considering they opened up marriage to same sex couples all the way back in 2005.
There were some changes regarding that. I can assure you that my country, Spain, is heading for disaster with no possibility of turning back. We deserve to be on the banned list: we maintain a miserable puppet government whose only job is to maintain the line of the 2030 agenda and form an untouchable power clique. Soon, the people here will not be able to protest or oppose it, or even criticize it under penalty of fine or arrest. But my age no longer allows me to start an adventure in Russia, that is why I say: May the good Lord protect us!