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Thanks for posting this - this sort of document helps to understand the world

Puts into perspective and gives weight to the frequently dismissed China peace plans and diplomatic efforts re the Ukraine war

CCP Central Committee Third Plenum will be held 15/18 July, and the key document has been prepared and circulated

Some large scale reforms are expected to be announced

The "Decision of the CPC Central Committee on Further Comprehensive Deepening of Reform and Advancing Chinese-style Modernization" has been circulated for input in and out of the CPC, was discussed at today’s meeting, and will be further revised. It will be then be submitted to the Third Plenary Session for discussion and adoption, which will be the key outcome document of the 3rd Plenum.

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Scott's avatar

Yeah, that was a really odd ... trailing ... comment. But Trump had the answer, LOL. "You killed Medicare"

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No1's avatar

This distortion field is what is actually a (big) problem now.

If you have a person under hypnosis (or mass psychosis in this instance), you don't let them do sudden actions lest they wake up.

Turning around a whole (sleeping) country overnight will surely wake them up.

Or maybe that's just my hope.

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Agree that most of the populace can handle the truth, but their reaction to it is what the elite fear. The elite would still think that the unwashed masses would have no useful input, that it's up to their superior powers to handle the situations in the "right way". What a burden they place on themselves!

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N Bear's avatar

Nice.

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Vasilios's avatar

The tide is on our side.

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Vasilios's avatar

Yep, it's a pastiche of Time is on my Side and Tide is High.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I hope.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Does the average Ukrainian soldier know they are being sacrificed for Jill Biden, Vicky Nuland, and Tony Blinken to get rich? Do they know Blackrock will own their land and flood it with migrants? If not they are just as propagandized as the average American. If so they need to turn around and take back their country.

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pyrrhus's avatar

It seems like the five Battalions who have have mutinied have figured it out, more or less....

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Longtrail's avatar

I hope it increases exponentially.

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The crash of civilisations does not happen by accident. The crash of civilisations does not happen all at once. The crash of civilisations takes a lot of planning over a long time.

Seventy-Two Empires have been recorded and every one of them has failed in the same way. The facts have been recorded that a totalitarian and satanic elite infil-traitored and took over all these Empires and that 72 once free, flourishing and rich republics were destroyed from within by Satanic Ritual - read Toynbee. The Satanic Wanker Banker Banksters are crashing the Financial System. Satanism is gradually being instituted as the New World Religion defined by Satanic Ritual.

The Satanic Phoenician Mega Trillionaires in that process have developed a lot of experience in the engineered destruction of Empires and the raising of the new. It seems they always use the same playbook from the Fall of the Roman Epmire to now which I will describe below...

https://satchidanand.substack.com/p/throughout-history-seventy-two-empires

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Refax's avatar

You mean the Jews?

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Not all Jews are Phoenicians. All the ones who went to the concentration camps are not Phoenicians. Phoenicians are a 10,000 years old race. Their modus operandi is that of infil-Traition. Delving deeply into the genealogies of famous people, film stars, scientists, artists, composers, musicians currently and through history we find that mainstream media and history itself is a web of deceit and lies and that all famous people are Phoenicians - from, “The Phoenician Navy” Thalassocracy and are all given the promotion needed to become famous by the Satanic Phoenician Mega Trillionaires.

Dark Forces have used Infiltrating Bloodline Phoenician aristocratic Families which have existed for over 5000 years before the Birth of Christ. Using emotional rhetorical religious concepts to control humanity, they themselves worship all the Pagan Gods, including Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Bel, Molech, Ashtoreth, Cybele and Attis. In this book we find that over thousands of years, spook, Bloodline Phoenician aristocratic Families infiltrated every country, every Empire, taking over or infiltrating every ruling aristocracy and aristocratic, bloodline family, in Europe, Britain, America, India, China and in every other country in the World.

http://www.energyenhancement.org/Sacred-Energy/Against-Satanism-Volume-6/AGAINST-SATANISM-6-Satanic-History-of-the-World-Part-2.pdf

The Satanic Phoenician Mega Trillionaires in that process have developed a lot of experience in the engineered destruction of Empires and the raising of the new. It seems they always use the same playbook from the Fall of the Roman Epmire to now which I will describe below... https://satchidanand.substack.com/p/throughout-history-seventy-two-empires

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

They are just Jews, quit making up excuses.

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Laurence Flynn's avatar

The Jews are just one faction. They have their own agenda as do all the other factions. They are not top of the pyramid. Moses, the father of the Jews was Sumerian. No-one knows where the Sumerians came from but it was somewhere in the Levant. Probably Phoenicia.

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

The "one faction" has complete control of the USA, while there may be other factions they aren't creating the turmoil the "zionist" are, not in the US anyway.

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

Yes this^^^

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The one's who have not fled to other parts of the world, are the ones who believe, to their very core, that Russia is the Dire Enemy of The West (the Hollywood version of the west is the one they believe is real).

So, yes, they are just as propagandized as Biden supporters are (and many Trump supporters, too).

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agree

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Loam's avatar

There is a whole huge army of fools ready to take the bait of childish Western propaganda.

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Longtrail's avatar

I second you on that. The army you refer to is the problem. They're propagandized dupes enthralled by the Narrative Matrix controlled by Plutocratic and Military Institutions who have created an ILLUSION of democracy.

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Loam's avatar

Without forgetting the Zionist lobby, infiltrated in all the institutions of the collective West.

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Longtrail's avatar

AIPAC and it's tools the DNC and RNC are cancers that must be excized to save the life of the nation.

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

^This

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Stephen Carter's avatar

Stop listening.

Stop complying.

Think for yourself.

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Angelina's avatar

@ Yuri Bezmenov - My brother fought for Ukraine in 2014-2016, his friends are now in the trenches, and when I ask the same question, he tells me, "they'll finish the Russians off and will go on Kyiv" (meaning to deal with Zelensky.) But when I ask, "Who will even be left of them to "go on Kyiv?" Crickets. They take great pride in fighting well, and they do, but it's like the gladiators in the Colosseum. As I see it, they're blinded by the task at hand - you're being shot at, you shoot back - no further thought.

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grr's avatar

Your brother sounds like he has a high IQ (sarc), lol I hope for your sake it's not a family trait.

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Denis's avatar

lol

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Martin's avatar

Must of served in the Azov battalion, Bandera freaks of the Ultra-nationalists.

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grr's avatar

Correct. 2016 was right kn the middle of Azov and other NAZI filth attacking Donbass civilains. Only the Donbass militias held these dogs back. Angelina's cunt brother is a war criminal.

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Angelina's avatar

Ukraine is a large country, including many boarders, including the Sevash boarder which Ukrainian boarder guards held.

I reported you to the Substack and Simplicius. You are unhinged.

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kgbgb's avatar

Argue your case. Don't go crying to teacher.

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Henry's avatar

Reported for what exactly?

Did the mean ol grr hurt your little feelings?

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Angelina's avatar

Well, not all of us as lucky as your family to know for sure that you're not housebroken.

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Kristina Camp's avatar

That proves again that Minsk accords meant nothing. Who the “ gladiators” fought against? Civilians? What a load of bullcrap. I had a family there in 2014, they were killing civilians

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Angelina's avatar

Are you even aware that we're discussing what now is happening in Ukraine, and not in 2014? Many were confused in Ukraine at the time and propagandized. From what I see, you ran away, vs. staying and "doing the right thing." Not all Ukrainian military were/are Azov, not all were/are killing civilians. Stop lumping all up in one pile to prove your non-existing point. They call it the civil war for a reason, political views tear the families apart. Keep you cheap talk to yourself if you can't maintain a civilized discussion. I'm not going to condemn my brother for his views to score your like. Capeesh?

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Kristina Camp's avatar

I am Russian. And my family as well who lived in Donbass in 2014. I did not leave Donbass in 2014, i left so called “ Ukraine” in 1995. You know nothing about what is happening here. Just sober up. After all, it’s not your choice but, your brothers. And yes, they were killing civilians. Sober up

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I am Ukrainian and my paternal line goes all the way to the Cossacks of Zaporozhya. My ancestors were military divers, cutting anchors of the Turkish fleet off, to run them ashore. My Ukrainian grandfather defended Brest and Stalingrad in WWII against the German Nazis. I left so-called "Ukraine" before you did. Keep your judgements to yourself. Russians were killing civilians too, stop glorifying the war! Nobody asked for your opinion, I wasn't even talking to you, you just barged in.

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grr's avatar

"Russians were killing civilians too"

What civilians were Russians killing in 2016? More NAZI lies from the Azov whore.

Nobody asked for your opinion, you just barged in.

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) that is the nature of a public forum, it allows others to "barge in".

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Henry's avatar

So your grandpa fought the nazis but your brother is a nazi.

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Kristina Camp's avatar

Zaporojeye? Welcome to my club. Dontskie and kuban Cossack serving Tsar of great mother RUSSIA and they will forever serve mother Russia and you can sit all day and grind your teeth but it’s not going to work

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Angelina's avatar

Your level of discussion belong to the gutter. You don't even know history well enough.

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Gerrard White's avatar

This discussion has given outsiders a welcome picture of what the situation is like in the Ukraine, the differences or not between Ukrainian and Russian and the manifest difficulty, even among those who have long left the country, as the two women above, of entertaining a day to day discussion of any use

How would any forum any circumstance enable these two to talk to eachother in a way that might begin to settle anything?

Perhaps they might tell us

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Simplicius's avatar

I have warned you half a dozen times to not attack other users and turn the comments section into a cesspool.

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Angelina's avatar

To call another user a “Nazi whore” or " Nazi cunt” is totally inappropriate. You must implement measures against such mis-users, just to “warn half a dozen times” is clearly not enough since there is no improvement.

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Henry's avatar

You brought up 2014 KAREN

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gogis79's avatar

What is the difference between Azov and ordinary artilleryman shelling civilians in Donetsk and Belgorod everyday? No difference. We will kill you all and feel good about it afterwards

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Kristina Camp's avatar

Look.. girl( Angelina), when Russia will take back what belongs to it, you are going to cry in Orthodox Church only for one reason that you belong to that nation again

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Angelina's avatar

I agree that historic Russian lands including Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson. etc., belong to Russia not Ukraine. You are so busy with your condemnations/agenda, you are unable to even grasp what the other side is saying. As, I mentioned, "girl," your level of discussion belongs to the gutter.

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This discussion has given outsiders a welcome picture of what the situation is like in the Ukraine, the differences or not between Ukrainian and Russian and the manifest difficulty, even among those who have long left the country, as the two women above, of entertaining a day to day discussion of any use

How would any forum any circumstance enable these two to talk to eachother in a way that might begin to settle anything?

Perhaps they might tell us

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

I would ask you is it so bad if you were part of Russia? Their future seems bright.

Why would it be so bad for you to be under Russian rule? It certainly isn't good for you to be under Zelensky's and his handlers rule.

This entire issue smells of a historical feud, simply let it go.

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It is certainly true there is an 'historical feud' between Ukraine and Russia

'Simply let it go' is some kind of Freudian slang which may, or may not, be useful in personal lives, but is of no use as far as the history of failed state relations, especially in time of war

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The thing with feuds is either one side is obliterated or one gives up the feud, otherwise it continues.

Possibly a long enough peace would allow attrition of the feuders and their subsequent generations to forget about it.

There's always another petty dictator that will use it to stir up a mess.

Anyway, I am trying to follow my own advice and "let it go" with things both political and personal, so I can understand it is not easy to do.

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Denis's avatar

I believe what you say is the truth because you hold your ground. Tell us more.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I knew someone like him, the brother of a former colleague. Came back from Donbass with two new holes in his head.

Good. For that matter, the the cousin of a friend of mine came back from Donbass in a coffin, not to mention with a swastika tattoo. The friend hates the regime even more than I do and says good riddance.

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Ngungu's avatar

BlackRock already owns the land.

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ikester8's avatar

Russia might have something to say about that, if it advances far enough.

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JennyStokes's avatar

ALL Russia wants is a 'buffer' zone. This does not include the whole of Ukraine!

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ikester8's avatar

Agreed, so what land does Blackrock actually own?

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It's also a long way from the disputed oblasts, doubtful Russia would go that far west.

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Gerrard White's avatar

wasn't that the story from the dubious french journo, Vincent something, that was shown to be fake? a few months back- with Soros, Le Monde published the story then withdrew it without retracting, it was mostly twitter fed

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JennyStokes's avatar

Who knows. It's a big country.

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Steghorn21's avatar

True, but they'll no more allow Blackrock in Ukraine than they would NATO.

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Nick's avatar

Ukraine is gone.

Ukraine is the buffer zone.

To think Russia is going to allow anything more than bandera land along the Polish border is naive in the extreme.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Who the hell other than Blackrock and other chemical companies would want Ukraine.

Full of Nazis.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Oh. Please go and read Scott Ritter. John Meersheimer. Aaron Mate etc. + countless others

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dornoch altbinhax's avatar

Blackrock will have a "loss" on the books and go looking for another bailout (ditto Vanguard) but it looks like uncle $bill is going broke so they've tried taking out a policy with Xi (they were busy schmoozing him back in San Francisco). We'll see how it works out, but interestingly mBridge is a BIS creation now being used for non USD trade.

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ikester8's avatar

That is interesting. However, if mBridge is still susceptible to the West's political meddling, it's going to suffer the same fate as the BIS itself, once there's an alternative, probably through BRICS+.

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dornoch altbinhax's avatar

You should become aware of Unit, it’s been discussed on Sputnik.

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ikester8's avatar

Found it. And it's written by my man Pepe Escobar!

https://en.sputniknews.africa/20240513/1066527607.html

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Steghorn21's avatar

For the time being. I doubt Putin will honour their contract.

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MissLadyK's avatar

Yes and does Ukraine really want to be owned by the US? As the US watches their citizens being butchered and salivates over their 12.5 trillion dollar resources?

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Tauph's avatar

You forgot Satan, himself; Soros!

Remember his vermin son (Alex) signed the contracts for Ukraine to be used as a Toxic Waste Dump, by the West

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Feral Finster's avatar

Nobody asked them.

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Nick's avatar

Ukraine is gone.

Russia is allowing the west to spend & "invest" maximum of its remaining fiat currency- before it takes control of Ukraine and nullifies every trace of the west in soon to be former Ukrainian territory.

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Ed's avatar

You must have seen a different Biden than I! He was so sad I had to switch off after 4 minutes: Rattling odd numbers, confused trillions with millions (!!!!) and claiming "reproductive health" is killing human beings aka fetuses!

But, American economists are irate at both Biden and Trump for tariffs to help US not depend totally on the Peoples' Republic of China for wind, solar and lithium supply chains, for example!

The professional management class thinks finance is the way to build an economy and manufacture will take care of itself from the PRC!

Do not underestimate Trump's seeming hyperbolae! His audience knows they are roundly fed lies from the establishment media!

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That's precisely why: you switched it off after 4 minutes. He started horrifically, but he caught his 2nd wind later and finished arguably much stronger than Trump. The second half was completely different to the first. Sure, in *general* he was awful--but my point was simply that compared to his *usual self*, he was no different and in fact much better and more lucid than many of his recent outings. There are several interviews over the past few months where he was *far* worse and yet there was no collective shock then.

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Ed's avatar

You don't get a second chance to make a good impression!

"No points" for digging himself out of a hole you Biden's handlers made for him.

Better than "he had a cold"?

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Natoistan's avatar

Obama just confirmed there will be no change of candidate.

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grr's avatar

Remember Sotero the kenyan speaking to a crowded auditorium about how he wish he could remote control a puppet after his two terms (as he couldn't have a third)?

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Gerrard White's avatar

is he pushing for his husband to take over from Joe?

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Skyler the Weird's avatar

They could replace Biden with a wax figure from Madame Tussaud's in the Oval Office and it would not effect the White House at all.

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

Obama is just another puppet.

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There will be no change of candidate because the ruling structure in the US is such that an untrained monkey could hold that position and do well in the eyes of the public.

Democracy in America and the West is a bad joke. Just step back and look at those two candidates with an objective eye - they are clowns, but more tragically, the American people take these fools seriously, actually believing they are presidential material, bona fide leaders of Western "freedom and democracy".

It is truly embarrassing to have to be a part of this as a citizen of the West.

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Haas's avatar

I agree 100% with your observation

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David Lentz's avatar

I am looking to get out

But fear CIA will meddle in the country I move to

But America now unaffordable for the 90 percent

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

Run away, face the same problem else where.

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Feral Finster's avatar

"If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?" - Anton Chigurh

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Andy Dean's avatar

That would be perfect. Then he wins the election through mobilization of every cemetery in the US and calling in strategic US Mail reserves of fresh bulletins. I so want to witness it, thankfully from afar.

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JackSirius's avatar

Obama’s tweet in support of Biden was perfunctory. Like all other prominent Dems, Obama will treat Biden like an Old Testament patriarch for a week or so. But the countdown to triggering the 25th Amendment has already begun, and you can bet Michelle Obama’s campaign website has already been built.

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Stephen Carter's avatar

Whoa. He & Biden will begin their intra-Dem retaliation. Night if the long knives.

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Codfish kid's avatar

That was the drugs talking.

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Yup. It took longer than expected for them to kick in.

I listened to a snippet from somewhere in the middle. He sounded like he was on speed, he was talking so fast. Couldn't annunciate a thing, so unintelligible. But yammering away full tilt.

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Andy Dean's avatar

All in all this was a marvelous display of American pharma's capabilities.

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Forrest Gimp's avatar

Pretty sure it was just that Jessie Pinkman was late to arrive with Joes crystal.

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Angelina's avatar

I watched all 3 candidates - RFK Jr was running a parallel debate on Twitter turning in 11 million views. Better than both, and he knows the corporate corruption well, but his stance on Israel is the same as two others. The most important issues of debate:

1. Who is the worst president in the history of the US

2. Who is the biggest criminal

3. Who has the morals of an alley cat

Or and in between, the WW3 in the making, and economy.

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That would be hysterical if it weren't so true. Albeit insulting to potatoes.

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Stephen Carter's avatar

Biden with shrill Jill behind him is likely hugely pissed at all Dems turning on him, on a dime. That must have really focussed his resolve to retreat, regroup, line up his retaliation tactics, but perhaps first take the 'White House' to an undisclosed bunker & just start lashing back in a calm measured way. Why is no one saying how much damage he could do, & Obama may even come into the picture to have it make deep strikes in coordinated rational way. Think of this as the First Triumvirate taking it's place to cause maximum mayhem. This almost seems guaranteed.

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Jill Biden makes Lady Macbeth seem like Mother Teresa.

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Gerald's avatar

I agree the debate was scheduled early to give the Dems time to find a replacement

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Alzaebo's avatar

Agree

This wasn't a debate

This was an assassination

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Steghorn21's avatar

So the conclusion we can draw is that a nation of 360m people that is facing nearly insuperable challenges is going to be represented by two morons.

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Henry's avatar

Your choice,

The baked potato or

The deep fried cheese puff.

Victor was right this is embarrassing.

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Triumphant Ape's avatar

The decision is in regardless, he is to be replaced, and the media can now smear him. Must be nice for them after being constipated for so long.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I suspect that Biden was juiced during the break.

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Watchingtheweasels's avatar

The professional management class hasn't been concerned with building anything for years; maximizing their spreadsheets on a quarterly basis to get the biggest bonuses possible is how they operate.

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Ed's avatar

True!

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I honestly thought it was possible el Prez would drop dead during the tv show. The uniparty should have realized that would have opened all sort of doors for election fraud. Of course, maybe they think they already have it in the bag.

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Victor's avatar

They do have it in the bag - with either candidate.

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Mike Zorn's avatar

He lied about the border patrol endorsement.

He lied about no soldiers dying on his watch.

He lied about inflation numbers coming from Trump's presidency.

I lost track.

Before the debate, he's told lie after lie.

Getting arrested in Africa while meeting with Mandela.

He lied about Trump's 'good people' quote.

The list goes on and on and on. Sometimes I think he actually believes all that nonsense.

In any case, one of the least qualified people ever to hold that office.

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Scott's avatar

He lied for the umpteenth time that Beau died in Iraq. What kind of low-life uses his son to score political points in that way?!

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grr's avatar

Did he lie or does his befuddled brain actually think it's the truth?'

Much like his walk in the Himalyas with Xi....

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Martin's avatar

He's repeated it so many times that he believes it, whilst no one in his team has any integrity will correct him. What a banana state the US has become, a cesspool of corruption. Then there's the DOJ, nuff said.

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Angelina's avatar

Remember George Constanza's "It's not a lie if you really really believe it?"

I can't believe you are seriously arguing points/lies of Biden, who said his uncle was eaten by cannibals, his son died in Iraq, and he knew Putin for 40 years.

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Hey, that’s a good one. I may quote you on that.

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Ngungu's avatar

Yes, amazing how he lied compared with Trump who told no lies during the debate and never ever lies 🤣

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Pxx's avatar

no no, you don't understand. he didn't lie. he misspoke. doesn't count.

/sarc

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Stephen Carter's avatar

He misinformed while busy stealing. He malinformed unintentionally.

He disinformed while shitting himself.

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MissLadyK's avatar

Wait a minute!!! It was Trump who lied!!! What are you trying to pull here? I didn’t think they could sink any lower, but being the true optimist, I knew they would!

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Mike Zorn's avatar

Give us one example.

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pyrrhus's avatar

It seems like all the drugs piped into Biden may have caused even more confusion than ever....

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Sam Ursu's avatar

either that or the FOUR(!) covid shots they spiked him with

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the long warred's avatar

“debate is inconsequential.”

Not in America.

This is the collapse of the Democratic Party, which is the collapse of DC and all International arrangements.

DC is Democratic.

USA “collapse” ™️ ; the collapse of the Democratic Party, of which Trump is just the Usher IS national institutional collapse outside of business, although Finance is part of the same government party system.

The Democratic Party’s reach and control of all institutions except some businesses and the rank and file police and military, otherwise the Democratic Party IS the National Government, and all International arrangements.

The Republican Party is a local party for where you live and your family lives, it can scale at most to the State level, and no major state except perhaps Texas.

The Republicans cannot form a replacement government.

So - Bye 👋🏻 so long world.

We won’t miss each other.

You kids play nice now.

You kids

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Feral Finster's avatar

Team D is the party of the PMC, with various grievance groups as junior partners.

Team R is the party of local gentry, with white evangelicals as junior partners.

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the long warred's avatar

Yes. And Team R isn’t ready for anything above local.

They can in White only western states pull it off.

Mike Pence ain’t… fuck… he ain’t Casca, never mind Brutus

They beta cux selected by their Vampiric Christian HOA wives as no threat to Female owned HUD loans landlord business

Randy from South Park got more spine and he’s a cartoon.

So Team D is Done and running, Team R can fall from the C17 wheel wells LMAO 🤣

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Jamis6528's avatar

The Republicans didn't have any problem controlling everything during Bush Jr's two terms. I think you're blinded by recency bias. There actually were books written about how the Republicans rigged the 2000 and 2004 elections. Democrats were freaking out then just like Republicans are now. Gore Vidal even said after the 2004 elections that Democrats needed to rig things so that Republicans could never again take power.

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In detail; the GOP can govern as RINOS only IF the Democratic Party exists. We are discussing the collapse of the Democratic Party. Not losing an election.

Losing the entire New Deal apparatus. Collapse

USA “collapse” ™️ ; the collapse of the Democratic Party, of which Trump is just the Usher IS national institutional collapse outside of business, although Finance is part of the same government party system.

The Democratic Party’s reach and control of all institutions except some businesses and the rank and file police and military, otherwise the Democratic Party IS the National Government.

Yes of course many state and local governments are Republican, but everything National is RINO for a reason, no choice.

The Democratic Party collapsing is the collapse of the ruling party and official religion of government, education, academia, the bureaucracy, many of the Churches Hierarchy, the Intelligence Community, certainly our actual Financial System and decades of relationships centered on the Capitol.

Now as America is an extremely resilient Federated system in every way at every level, we’ll do better than most countries at weathering the storm.

But have no illusions the Collapse of the Democratic Party is collapse of our Public National Institutions.

We’re really going to have to get serious about money.

(I am in no way a Democrat).

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Recency Bias? 🤣

Let’s discuss Normalcy Bias first… and by the way I have seen the system collapse foreign nations, now it is collapse ours… they’re just being themselves.

This is what they do.

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I've long thought you were an unbiased and objective news source, not an partisan influencer. That image was laid to rest with your comments. I've long enjoyed your reporting but sadly today I've concluded I can no longer trust your judgement. or objectivity. For the record, I'm a registered Independent, not Republican or Democrat. Your commentary struck me as highly partisan and lacking specifics. Memorized facts are not the same thing as economics or world war. Do you want more of the same for the next 4 years? Wars, borders, inflation, crime, weaponized justice, etc.? So tell us again why you think Biden won? For the last 3+ years, no American has won. Debate words are not policy. Debate words are not national security. Debate words are not economics, employment, housing, food, or energy independence, and they're not a track record. How many food processing plants and refineries have blown up or burned in the last 3+ years? Never mind train derailments, destruction of bridges, and mob violence, or fentanyl deaths. Never-the-less, best wishes.

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So what are you? Republican, Democrat, Independent? Are you honest? Tell your readers your political affiliation so a dispassionate reader can accurately judge your political, moral, and economic value systems. That said, you make some very excellent points , actually exceptional, and you're obviously well read. Very good comments. My sincere compliments. All that said, let's take Simplicius' statements at face value regarding the debate. Personally, I think that says all about living in reality that needs to be said.

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There were no winners in this debate - not Trump, not Biden, not the American people. But I believe people have to understand that a democracy is a self-defeating system of government. Its end is always the same - corruption and degeneracy from within as the people are manipulated and the ruling class overstretch and widespread incompetence.

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Agree. 90% of people will only remember what media said. They dont sit through 90 min of jibbering. The only memory will be that one of the seniles were more senile than the other. Trump did not spread any new one-liners, he didnt have any aura of a winner. Biden did good to endure the whole ”duel” without passing out. Simp is right in that Biden won the debate because no one remember what Trump said. It is 100% focus on Biden.

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Well this is curious. I'm way to the right of the Republican party, yet we share the same positions on these things: "antiwar, antiimperialist, pro-worker/labor, class conscious, let's prioritize or at least protect us little guys from the voracious capitalist rentier class, rebuild manufacturing".

How about we (1) ban the use of stock options as a compensation plan, (2) ban corporate stock buybacks, (3) ban corporate ownership of more than two homes. Let's see where things go then.

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"The Ungoverned'.

That is, America in 1910, before the Federal Reserve or its World Wars, when the average citizen's only contact with the federal government was the Post Office. That, or Swiss cantons.

Local policing was left to 'vigilante groups', that is, the city dads who kept trash and dangerous elements out of their town and away from the families. My grandmother had crosses burned on her lawn twice...and she understood it, and readily agreed with that system. In Nevada, too; I am a child of the West, not the South.

(I am discounting the JudeoPuritan radicals and their War of Northern Aggression; their messianic theocracy eventually brought us all the evils and usurpations of the 20th C.)

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"Try to put yourself in the shoes of a Democrat supporter" - as an outsider, I find it impossible.

Democrat supporters have been seeing exactly the same appearances of Biden as everyone else, but somehow they could never conclude anything worrying about him before the debate. And suddenly, one if his better public appearances and poof.

Those people must be f_king bots controlled remotely. How can any at least half self-aware person behave that way?

I've never seen anything like this before and if I was told (at least before 2019)this is going to happen, I would be more willing to reevaluate my views on flat Earth theories.

Hilariously tho, Biden appeared to have more support in certain countries outside of the US than domestically. So it's not a completely US-only phenomenon.

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VHMan's avatar

Very nice. And you are right: “immigrants” are, to a large degree, a RESULT, not a cause. These kinds of reversals are proferred to shield those responsible or those who benefit.

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Natoistan's avatar

Yankees stop your occupation of Europe, go home asap and stay there forever, thanks.

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Oregonian's avatar

For over 100 years, the single greatest US imperative has been to keep Russia and Germany separate. It is existential, as Germany and Russia together have science, technology, innovation, raw materials, and land from the Baltic Sea (Atlantic) to the Sea of Japan (Pacific). Yankees won’t go home until Europe sends them home.

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Actually that is a British imperative you are quoting.

For the last 40 years or so, the US foreign policy imperative was to keep Russia and China separate (Germany is a pipsqueak compared to China, though obviously the reverse was once true). FJB and his team of comrades has totally blown up that imperative.

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yes, but how odd the way policies that have no vision backfire. Because we wanted to keep Germany down and today we are supporting the attempt by Germany to refire its war industry and Japan wants to join NATO's war bloc (they don't learn their lesson, like the Jewish tribes) and POLAND AND THE UK agitate for war with our warm approval. And China and Russia have found ground for a workable (in the near term anyway) strategic relationship that has a massive piece of real estate armed at the front and back doors. This is foreign policy incompetence, it set in when the old crew, the specialists who knew their fields inside out, retired and then in came the wokesters, the tokens, the frauds who know zip about diplomacy or its skill set.

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It is coming. And they will go away not just from Europe, but from Middle East too. It seems that something big is coming. Russia, China, Iran and probably North Korea are preparing some kind of global operation to end US hegemony.

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Ngungu's avatar

Inshallah.

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JennyStokes's avatar

BRICS is coming.............the dollar will be demolished.

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A registered independent is just an embarrassed democrat or republican and has no meaning for anyone's objectivity.

Everything Simp said was accurate - Trump's magic is gone, Biden did get better though he had some obviously terrible moments, but he wasnt any worse than months ago and Trump didnt do anything but brag about himself and was on the defensive the entire night. The later might be a result of CNN openly cheating, but the Trump of 2016 is no more and you shouldnt let your feelings get the best of you so that you condemn Simplicius for merely pointing out what everyone else knew.

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Agree for the most part. I truly despise both Democrats and Republicans (read that as politicians). They're in it for themselves, not us. Trump's magic is tarnished, I agree, if for no other reason that his support of the vaccine (even if he foolishly trusted his advisors). He should have known better and done his own research. That said, I'll take outcomes over promises every day, all day. The outcomes during the Trump presidency were spectacular COMPARED to what we've experienced the last 3+ years. I deal in facts. Not emotions. Not feelings. Facts. And while we're at it, what is it "that everyone else knew?" And who is "everyone"? The media, or university students, the most ignorant among us? Educate me.

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I mean I agree that basically Trump's presidency was better - no child trannies, no ww3, no mass arrests of political opponents, no vaccine mandates (though trump also gets an L for this since the vaccine was his idea), no war with china or now reason and he also got us checks.

But as you know we for one, have fake elections now, and two to the degree there is any legitimacy, with the size and reach of alternative media most people - if not practically all of them, have seen videos of Biden and knows he is cognitively compromised even if their are narratives that keep people comfortable with it. No one I know of - even partisan democrats - believed that Biden was in good shape, their tilt is that he is 'better than Trump'.

Trump's performance speaks for itself- he has been compromised by lawfare and 8 years of hostile media psyops so everyone except partisan Trump people knew by watching that nothing special was going to happen and for the most part everyone saw him with familiar riffs 'greatest ever' for example and only had a few new lines such as calling Biden a 'palestinian' which was a tone-deaf and cringe things to say given the genocide happening there.

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I'm not sure the vaccine was Trump's idea. The vaccine was probably planned well in advance, along with the outbreak. He might regret giving Fauci so much trust throughout the entire covid debacle.

I think Trump may have realized what this debate was all about and just went through the motions for it. Don't do anything that can be used towards you later kind of thing. And if Biden is indeed replaced that the debate truly was inconsequential for Trump. Maybe anyways?

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Very good description1

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"The vaccine was probably planned well in advance, along with the outbreak" ..it never ceases to amaze how deeply the pandemic and related conspiracy narratives affected some people despite them being proved to be bullshit by facts and time, hence their contradictory, nonsensical nature as new memes were made up to counter whatever was on the news.

for all the talk about how the sheep who "went along" with the pandemic and vaccines were naive, stupid, fearmongerers etc, the anti-covid cultists are in a league of their own. I think its because that kind of propaganda taps into some people's narcissism and desire to be the smartest in the room, it really sells itself. that's why you can't tell them anything or they become enraged. its too bad they've established themselves in any sort of counter-cultural space where serious issues are discussed, cause its so discrediting.

seriously, why are you even here and not listening to Alex Jones or something? According to your constantly shifting narratives (that you cant even explain much less recall, only that you were 100% right all the time lol), first all the countries in the world (including competing or even antagonistic nations... US, China, Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Iran, etc etc ) conspired to make up a fake virus to promote a fake pandemic, lockdowns, masks etc and do your global reset. Then when that didnt happen, the vaccines came out and restrictions lifted, you had to modify your narrative so that it was all about the vaccine (all these countries conspired to fake the pandemic to poison their people with the vax etc). According to your own schizophrenic "logic", all geopolitical rivalries and even wars like the Ukraine conflict must also be fake and part of the smoke-screen. Hey, now you're back in the driver's seat!

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Chris Collier's avatar

Good grief; sounds like your having a great day. "constantly shifting narratives" seems like a some sort of a form answer. But anyways, good day.

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marcjf's avatar

I'd also point out that Trump is also far too old now. I know loads of people his age and wouldn't want any of them taking serious decisions.

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Gerrard White's avatar

ahem.....VVP.....Xi......Khamenei.....

It ain't the meat it's the motion

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

VVP and Xi are 71. Trump is 78.

Xi is the only career politician and I'd expect the CPC to be able to get rid of him if he went mas.

Both Xi and Khamenei are intellectuals in the true meaning of the term, except that Khamenei doesn't make real decisions and he's sort of a "national druid" - he's there to give his opinions about how his country should look like, but that's all. People wouldn't be listening to him if his mind was deteriorated so badly. He's 85 and he seems to be doing all right for his age.

Now VVP is famously keeping himself up to shape by really hardcore healthy lifestyle(or rather regime) since he was practically a child. It's not unreasonable to think his mental health is also much better than that of the average people of his age, in the same way his physical state is.

Now Trump is 78 and none of the above things. He was also never too witty even in his best times.

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Trump's outcomes came primarily from deregulation and record spending. He spent so much money (and no one saw anything wrong with it) that by Sept. 2019 the REPO market froze up. That's when Covid was rolled out.

REPO froze up because so many US Treasury bonds were being sold that all the money looking to invest itself in interest bearing investments has been soaked up. The Fed has to inject $1 trillion a day into REPO to keep the financial system afloat.

I spent hundreds of hours at the time trying to figure why this was happening. Nobody could figure it out. The system is too complicated. Nobody could see the big picture. Six months later the cause was obvious.

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Morfei's avatar

The results of the debates are obviosly fake - 33% for Biden, 67% for Trump. It is very suspicios that it is exactky 1/3 vs 2/3.

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I think it was based on a 'poll' of 535 registered voters they had ready for the post-debate evaluation. 535 is no way big enough of a sample even if you accept how sampling for polling is done today, but to me it makes some sense because about a third of the voting population is going to be in the tank for their national party no matter what.

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Morfei's avatar

The point is not in the number of voters, but in this suspiciously non-random distribution - exactly 1/3 and 2/3 (33%/67%).

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They only had two choices - three if you assume 'no one won' was an option, so it was going to add up to 100% either way and that it landed on 1/3 v 2/3 is no more suspicious than if it had landed on 3/16ths v 13/16ths.

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Gerrard White's avatar

the attractiveness of the conspiracy theory is over rated 100% or is that 200%

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abcdefg's avatar

"Do you want more of the same for the next 4 years?"

I'm not sure why you posted this comment. Perhaps you had a rough sleep the night before?

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Norma Bown's avatar

registered independent doesn't mean much, as research has shown. Almost all "independents" vote for the party they previously supported as a member. I too am an independent, a Republican independent. we sure see things domestically differently, but that's fine. I'm all for open debate based on intelligence and reasoning.

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Chevrus's avatar

And stay gone

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Paul Zucconi's avatar

My sentiments exactly!

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Dichotomos's avatar

Tell me you lack reading comprehension without telling me you lack reading comprehension.

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Dennis's avatar

So, Trump lies, Biden lies, probably less than Trump though that is also a matter of preference. There has yet to be a “debate” where fact checkers didn’t have a bipartisan field day afterword. That Biden “may” have been a trifle more accurate in a contest of lies than Trump is of course meaningless to any other than professional debate judges.

In the real world Biden is not in trouble because of Trump lies, he’s in trouble because his performance failed badly in convincing the public he’s competent enough to handle another four years. And worse, creates the question, do we want him in position to make decisions now? And, does he actually make them?

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Nuland retired, Biden retired, US navy leaving the Red Sea, meanwhile airlifts and ships headed to Lebanon, US ‘contractors’ sent to Ukraine, political tides shifting in Europe. The powers are realizing they have about 6 months to play their best hands or move forward on their favorite projects. I expect more fire in Ukraine to stave off collapse for 5 months, and more fire in Lebanon to try and get that started and ‘gift’ it to a new president to solve. The Dems are splitting into factions; whomever carries November will have their hands full.

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Jane Smith's avatar

Apologies for not being one of the "cool kids". What is OTAN?

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JulianJ's avatar

It's the French acronym for NATO. If you look at any NATO logo it has NATO/OTAN written on it.

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Jane Smith's avatar

Yup. Thanks! *covers eyes in embarrassment*

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JulianJ's avatar

There's no embarrassment in not knowing an acronym. French speakers obviously use OTAN in preference to NATO, and I guess that people whose French is better than their English use it because it feels "right".

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Steghorn21's avatar

So, it's NATO in retreat?

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JulianJ's avatar

Aha ha ha ha! Good one!

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the long warred's avatar

“it stands no chance in a long term conflict against the manufacturing powerhouse of the Russia-China-North Korea-Iran bloc.”

Good heavens! We’d better prepare for Red Dawn and Guerrilla Warfare!

WOLVERINES !!

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the long warred's avatar

You may want to ask the Chinese about this first…

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Qwibqwib's avatar

Ask them what?

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Spirou's avatar

I enjoyed the first 10 mn of this flick only

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Natoistan's avatar

A major false flag somewhere in Europe is expected (including 404, Russia, Minsk) or a western EU city could happen after the NATO summit, just before the olympics because after it it is too late. Check July 15th and 16th +-.

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Morfei's avatar

and for what purpose?

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Stephen Carter's avatar

Biden is bored, needs to nuke something.

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

During the Olympics, not before.

It's almost a habit in recent decades. There's always some new crisis during the Olympics.

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Steghorn21's avatar

I hope it won't deprive those brave transgender athletes of their medals.

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

They can swim in the Seine for all I care.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Yep, they'll literally be going through the motions.

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😁😁😁

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ASensibleMan's avatar

Friendly reminder that “oligarch” is a Western spin term for Jewish looter.

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Victor's avatar

As is "globalist".

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Jack Dee's avatar

It's worth noting that as recently as 4-5 years ago "Oligarch' was a Western media synonym for "Russian billionaire". Mikhail Khodorkovsky Roman Abramovich, Boris Berezovsky had "Oligarch" attached to their names as if it had been inscribed on their birth certificates and passports.

And as for billionaires Jeff Bezos owner of the Washington Post and Michael Bloomburg owner of the Bloomburg media group and three term mayor of New York city, could we reasonably attach the term "Oligarch" to them?

No, we may not.

Calling an ultra-wealthy Russian businessman with political influence an oligarch is correct because it shows us the truth, namely that Russia is an oligarchy. However, calling an ultra-wealthy American businessman with political influence an oligarch is wrong because it implies a falsehood, namely that America is an oligarchy. Whereas I have been informed by influential sources with access to important information, that America is in fact a democracy.

So, there you are.

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There is no oligarchs left in Russia, because if any wealthy Russian businessman is not agree with policy of Putin and his government he has only 2 options - leave Russia or shut up.

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Seeker's avatar

So are you implying that there are no billionaires left in Russia? Or is it that you are implying that there are no rich discenting voices against the Russian leadership? I guess that would happen if the west through sanctions froze or down right seized their assets and treated them like fugitives since 2022. So I guess the message they here now is no land like the one that made them wealthy in the first place. Why criticize that land now? As where else can their accumulated wealth be safe outside of Russia? Staying quiet may just be in their best self interest.

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Yes, it is simply not profitable for them to contradict the government, because only it can guarantee the preservation of their wealth. When the SMO began and West imposed sanctions on Russia, Putin gave the oligarchs a choice - if they want to continue making money in Russia, then they must spend and invest this money in Russia and not interfere in government policy, or they can leave, but all their material assets in Russia will remain in Russia. And Western sanctions have made it almost impossible to withdraw significant amounts of money from Russia. This is the main reason for such good performance of the Russian economy. The West, with its sanctions and confiscations of the property of Russian oligarchs, has probably done even more for the Russian economy and industrial development than Putin.

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The West forced protectionism on Russia and dispelled the belief that wealth can only be stored by investing in the western financial system. The Russian economy is doing well because Russians have no choice but to have faith in the Ruble which is money in Russia. In extension this has made the Ruble into somewhat of an international trading currency as Russia has been forced to expand the selling of their energy, commodities and food in Rubles. This has created the situation whereby Russia can expand their money supply without creating inflation within Russia just as the West has done exporting their inflation to the global market. The Russians have felt the benefit and are now encouraging more countries to enjoy the benefits of local currency trade. The Iranians, Venezuelans Cubans have been suffering under sanctions for years and are more than happy for the potential to escape the western strangle hold over their economies

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The Richest Satanic Phoenician Mega Trillionaire 10,000 years old Families in the World. THE VANGUARD GROUP DRIVES WORLDWIDE MERCHANT-BANKER FASCISM FROM THE CITY OF LONDON. VANGUARD, BLACKROCK, STATE STREET ARE CONTROLLED BY THE PILGRIMS SOCIETY IN THE CITY OF LONDON (ROTHSCHILDS, BARINGS, BARCLAYS, NATWEST, ETC.) King Chucky the Turd is the front man controlling Klaus Schwab and Vanguard.

https://satchidanand.substack.com/p/the-richest-satanic-phoenician-mega

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Jack Dee's avatar

I should make it very clear that I am not against the use of Meditation Energy Enhancement Against Satanism, however you are kind of gumming up the thread. Unless it is directly related to the topic at hand, I think that it is best to keep such discussions over at your place.

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The Richest Satanic Phoenician Mega Trillionaire 10,000 years old Families in the World are the Oligarchs. They marry into all the richest families in each country and then take over the political system in every country in the World like the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Carnegies, Vanderbilts, Stanleys, Cohens etc etc.

I am in fact saying that America, the Anglo-American Empire is an Oligarchy and not in fact a Democracy or more accurately, a Republic. https://satchidanand.substack.com/p/the-richest-satanic-phoenician-mega

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Gerald's avatar

Good point and witty too.

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Alan's avatar

Careful when removing a sharp tongue from a cheek.

Consulting a specialist may be warranted.

The Israeli Lobby's success in making the US dog perform (like bark and heel on command) is, in unreality, the Platonic Form illustrating the control of a huge govt. by an Oligarchy.

None of the mainstream candidates (or RFK) have failed to tow the line.

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Refax's avatar

So is there term “Russian Mafia”

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