Just wo points Id like to make...If your deciding between fat paycheck motivated American mercenaries, and serving North Korean troops handpicked for their skill and loyalty to Kim Jong Un..PUT YOUR MONEY ON THE KOREANS. Point # 2...this is what the cold war in the internet era looks like..don't get too worried by any of these stories..some of us have seen it all before .
Koreans are hard...they were the toughest guys on either side in VN...their fire discipline was, literally, insane and the North Koreans haven't gotten westerner-soft in the passing decades
I was Russia a year (2005) after the Beslan school massacre. Travelled from Moscow to Ufa. Anyone who thinks they are going to terrorize the Russian people into submission doesn't know the Russian. They are stoic nation and will do what they have to do, and suffer what they must, in order to finish the job. Period.
Russia blinked and cried and dried the tears and wiped the fuckers who raped their country off the battlefield. And today that is all buried under NATO propaganda wherein the Poles, who bravely fled to London and other points west that were safe, are the heroes. THEY saved Europe. Or the Americans, coming in at the tail end and doing a fine job but hardly being the Nation Without Which Europe would have lost to the Evil Hitler, supported by large swathes of European populations and more and more the farther east toward the ultimate fascists, the Captive Nations. Or the west Ukrainians, whom we in the Garden laud for "fighting with us in WWII." Ask anybody who lived there in WWII -- they marched with the Nazis, so who did the west march with? Today I'd have to say Nazis -- that is whom we support and arm and use to the "last man" to fight our wars of imperialism and conquest today, so what the hell was WWII about? But the US has passed the zenith of power and on the way down, it will see again all the faces it stepped on to get to be the Hegemon.
the US stopped wanting to learn about other countries when it found out how easy it was NOT to bother understanding and just bully and pillage. That's all we have left is that lizard brain.
Oligarchs of foreign origin. All politicians of both supposedly opposing parties are merely their paid whores. All western media (The Mighty Wurlitzer) is just a massive lie-machine. The "president" is a literal retarded ventriloquist-dummy who can't even read the lines given to him on the teleprompter correctly.
and nowhere in Europe do the citizens reign, except in Hungary, Slovakia (!), Belarus and Russia. Those are all places that retain a strong sense of nationhood and cultural/ethnic identity and harmony. The rest want to "carve up" Russia (and that's just step one!) as the new "Foreign Minister" of the EU proclaims. Many Slavs see all this in Ukraine as a way to kill off all the Slavs, I guess leaving the least talented (NATO members all) to rule the Slavic Kingdom now and forever.
WASPs have always been this way. The Brits were that way before us.
It's easy to blame this stuff on the "other bankers" but the United States has treated treaties as if they are toilet paper for centuries. Long before certain groups got influence.
Russian people increase support of war when they get attacked! Ukraine is doing opposite of what they think when they kill Russian citizens. I am positive that USA play part in this, they want WW3 and this time they will be defeated, just as Russia defeat Germany during WW2 but USA write as if they defeat Germany. D-Day was end of German Empire, very weak people guarding beach. This was 2 full years after Russia declare war on Germany and kill many of them when they attack. 20 million die, 20 million. USA cannot handle 7 thousand that die in Afganistan. But they think they will fight Russia? Their casuality will be 7 thousand A DAY! They will not sell this to American people., they will NOT be able to go for draft., the citizens will NOT go for it!
They would be capable of achieving air superiority (not supremacy) for a time with the trained pilots NATO has, but the legions required to march in behind and occupy the rubble are a long way away.
Plus, it takes longer to mobilize in the US because the soldiers have to say goodbye to both of their moms.
Maybe we will see France and Germany start to haul people off of the street and throw them into vans and drive them to the front lines to join their fellow Western soldiers already fighting in Ukraine.
I think Olaf might have a hard time selling an invasion of Russia to guys whose big family secret is their Russian genes acquired in the closing days of WW2. Oh well go for it Germany. Maybe 3 will be the charm. I'll cook some popcorn.
If the Empire were to foolishly escalate the war, the obvious counter is to stretch the already over-stretched NATO forces. Taiwan, you say? No, because both the Chinese people and the people in Taiwan don't want it and don't need it. North versus South Korea ? Naw. Again, don't need, don't want. Koreans are not suicidal.
But the large and important region from Morocco to Iran has a lot of unfinished business with the West. If even only a third of those nations decide to rise up and fix things, all of NATO's military would lose badly. With Turkiye choosing to sit it out (and they would), the numbers are even worse for the West.
Bottom line, the West is bluffing and everyone should know it.
They did in 1963, too. Only the Americans didn't realize it. On two occasions the captains of Russian subs, with delegated authorization, decided to launch nuclear torpedos at US carriers as their last act of defiance before they were sunk. The first changed his mind: the second didn't, was supported by his political officer, and was stopped only by "the man who saved the world", the naval brigade's chief of staff who happened to be aboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov.
Because the Americans didn't know the subs could carry nuclear weapons, any attack on the carrier (which would have vaporized or incapacitated the USN carrier group, thus no immediate witnesses) likely would have been interpreted as a missile from Cuba. Instant thermonuclear exchange...
Instead of a token force of 6,000 men in Cuba as US intelligence thought, the Russians had 42k troops plus more than a hundred tactical nukes in Cuba that the Americans didn't know were there until after the end of the Cold War. The US intended invasion thus would have been a catastrophe...
Air superiority with trained Nato pilots: huh? You mean to say Russia does not have trained pilots? I beg to differ and do not see any way Nato could achieve any superiority over the Russian air force in any way, shape or form, but perhaps I am missing something?
I meant that America has a number of trained pilots, in contrast to the US Army which is in horrible shape and can’t win a firefight against goat herders even with air supremacy.
Russias pilots are clearly better experienced because of the war and all.
Plus they speak the same language as is used in the flight manuals, and on the instrument panels, which is a boon.
The prestige of allying with and helping the most powerful Army in the world to win a war...A very depressing situation for the South Koreans, who are allied with a rapidly declining US...
There is a manpower shortage in Russia, or at least a labor squeeze. Grandma, grandpa, uncle and auntie taking on a few more shifts at the factory will go some way but rebuilding blasted cities and clearing battlefields is another story.
Interesting little-known fact from history, in WWI the British and French used more than 100,000 of Chinese workers. Very useful
Unbeknown to many, Russia has a very significant ethnic Korean pop already. The richest gal in Russia being one of them. Russian billionaire Tatyana Bakalchuk.
If the NK soldiers were to simply do jobs like demining or truck driving or trench-digging, that would release Russian soldiers to do more active roles. Obvious.
#1: Give the NK military hands on experience vs. a more or less NATO flavored opponent? Which the NK Military can't really get at home, without re starting the Korean war vs. the South.
NK: Just trolling Azov by going after them with troops that Azov publicly declare subhuman? Like the Chechens at Mariopol, iirc the Tannu Tuvans at Avdeevka (Azov ran like rabbits) etc.
Or perhaps they're just trolling generally: maybe it really is just engineers and thus symbolic. The NK troops aren't indoctrinated with Russian military doctrines, so in combat roles probably would be cannon-fodder for a while. Which would be counter-productive as it'd play to the Western narrative.
So you think giving NK engineering troops first hand experience with de-mining, defusing and otherwise familiarising themselves with Western weaponry is somehow pointless??
Never mind the value of first hand trench warfare experience...
Actually a benefit to NK for their troops to be able to operate in real world conditions, something South Korean troops are not able to do. Look how much Hezbollah benefited from being operational in Syria. There is no substitute for actual combat experience. This is what NATO mercenary pilots will learn when they try to fly F-16s against Russia out of Romania against veteran Russian pilots in superior aircraft and world-class air defense systems.
It is funny to me that the only people "reporting" this are S. Korea -US puppet and then it gets picked up by all the other western puppets who all claim the source to be S. Korea . I remember once upon a time when you needed 2 independent sources (hahaha). In fact, the quick glance I had at Russian news said "Kremlin is unaware of reports of N. Korea (engineers) going to Ukraine, here is a wild take, N. Korea is sending workers to Russia to work in manufacturing and construction projects. I notice that our objective friend S does not even mention the simple and most likely answer.
Exactly, butthurt SK is invoking yet another media bubble. Nothing to see here at all. Russia is still years and years from indulging other nations help apart from singular fighters on contract with RMD.
KDPR will get more than a paycheck and friendship with Russia. Their soldiers will get actual intense combat experience, which their army hasn't had since 1953. Even more than Korean "boots on the ground" in 404-stan, this coming increase in Nork combat capability should make the Empire's puppets in South Korea and Japan, think harder about getting off the march towards WW3.
Especially considering that the same Korean war was the last open conflict of Russia and USA. Is the current Ukraine proxy war of the US and Russia impossible because it's ALSO been 50 years since the Korean war? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
It is encouraging that the West is frightened, to this point, by rumours of NK sending troops, arms, or indeed 'construction workers'
- some kind of realism , as it is likely troops will be sent
Fear that they can be sent, and that the west has no certain way to know how many troops, or arms, and can do nothing to prevent it
Any sort of parallel agreement with Iran would have the same result, perhaps, and should be treated with the same fear by the west
Both initiatives certainly result from the Joint Declaration with China, and constitute a military alliance for the Ukraine war, as well as preparing for any eventual 'Taiwan ' war
Who is frightened here? The NATO class is frightened -
......but NATO is is always frightened - it's a 'defensive' alliance is it not, so it's raison d'être is to be frightened
Despite this fright it's not done a great deal except bomb Belgrade or some mountains in Afghan, certainly rather less than zero (in effect) in Ukraine
But what can this class now do? Continue to bla bla? Or.....? Eventually...?
They can do very stupid things as their delusions and panic take over from any rational thought. I didn't think we would get to anything like this point but here we are. Any rational actor would have folded the tent when the Ukrainian offensive collapsed, after all, when the defender gains more territory than the attacker you are right royally screwed, but no, the idiots just push on thinking that because they haven't got a smack in the face yet, it is never going to happen. Unjustified optimism has killed far more people than sober pessimism
I don't think that the bulk of Western policy makers are in any way rational and have very poor judgement if they are. They should just stop and accept that they have fucked up and wear the consequences or grab their gear and head to Ukraine themselves, put their own lives at risk for once instead of everyone else's.
NATO has been irrational, doing stupidity, for longer than anyone has been alive, almost
They are paid to be irrational, and to be stupid - remember that reason is now and was forever the white man's disgrace
The US ruling class has always worked to the principle that the only guiding directive of their policy, both internal as external, has been to install and to maintain chaos
More recently this ruling class has contaminated the EU ruling class, who's actions, who's internal directed acts and most external too, since WW2, were at least slightly less irrational
Read the Joint Declaration, the MSC 2007 Speech, the May 7 Executive Order - have you ever known anyone who has ever dreamed that a coherent rational statement of policy aims, in any domain, can or may be produced by the USNATOEU, with any rational means intent or prospect of execution?
Doing "very stupid things" is the mentality of Endless War. Once you get into it, once you declare that the enemy must be vanquished, that it is an existential absolute to vanquish this enemy, you start doing things you vowed you would not do. The mentality is such that once you get into it, and you've determined that vanquishing the enemy is a maximalist absolute, there are no curbs or brakes.
A limit regarding what the West will do to "help Ukraine" does not seem to exist.
This is the same West which profligately rained cluster munitions down on Kosovo for 11 weeks in 1999.
Your statement confirms Gerrard White's "Despite this fright it's not done a great deal except bomb Belgrade or some mountains in Afghan, certainly rather less than zero (in effect) in Ukraine".
In other words, Nato is good for bloviating and attacking defenceless civilians, not for taking on a peer opponent.
Yes, but what if having realized that bloviating is not enough, they decide to do something kinetic? This imponderable is always there with weakness and the West's weakness is revealed day after day.
Have to disagree. The policy makers are think tanks, hedge funds, military corporations, the media, corporate donors, political apparatchiks and others who want their hands unseen.
The parliamentarians in the major parties just put their hands up and vote for what they have been told by those who pay to ensure that this is what happens
Recall what Representative Thomas Massie told Tucker during their sit-down: that AIPAC, for instance, assigns a handler to each congressional member in the U.S.
Think of other large lobbying interests on Capitol Hill: MIC, Big Oil, Finance. Gotta believe they have emulated AIPAC's successful approach & have contrived a similar model--dispersing their handlers throughout the Beltway
Policy makers are the elite, the billionaires who own the media which chose to parade Lindsay Graham and the rest of the liars to promote war. Take Gates: World wide monopoly in computer software, media baron with MSNBC, NBC, and PBS through Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, and dominant health care monopolist who both creates viruses and the gene therapy to fight them. Now that is a lucrative business. "Russia invaded Ukraine for no reason."
They are driven on like horses maddened by flies, for without the Ukraine war going wide and possibly another pandemic scam, they are looking at a very probable Trump win.
They are the often referenced crew that prefer to rule over the ashes than to lose power.
I don't think Western pols are scared of WWIII, but of being forced out of power. The usual gambit of stirring up an international crisis to act as political distraction at home is not working recently. This doesn't solve any of the problems, unfortunately, it just replaces the figureheads with another cohort who will read the same lines from the same teleprompter
On the other hand, solidarity among the "rest of the world" is a significant development in itself
For Western pols, being forced out of power is in fact their existential crisis--their WWIII.
The figureheads who replace the retread Western pols will self-deplete @ some point. Their dearth of imagination, dearth of vision, dearth of novel approaches will be the rocks against they break their ship.
The RoW's strategy right now is to run out the clock, allowing the interests driving Western foreign policy--MIC, Oil, Finance--to exhaust themselves, which will create a space for a burgeoning process where those hegemonic zero-sum interests get replaced w/ more constructive & consonant intersts willing to work w/ the RoW rather than irrationally trying to subjugate it.
I know it's hard to imagine this now, but someday a unipolar hegemon, who has galvanized a coterie of obeisant vassals & from that arrogance subjugates everybody else, will seem like a quaint anomaly
the Usurper of Kiev seems stumblingly to realize suddenly that the war he has stood atop for 28 months is yielding horrific casualties: wounded, maimed, killed
This is interesting - another sign the end is nigh, and by implication that all the happy face figures given by the NATO ites for RF dead, up to 500,000 or even more, are just as much a lie as the low figures publicised for Uk dead
Also acknowedging that recent US aid arms and cash is inadequate - especially the airplane tokenism
Boots on the ground? Perhaps they'll finally have to put paid to this false promise - NATO meeting coming soon, no?
Will be a grim summit for OTAN in D.C. w/ Formaldehyde Joe as the host & of course the Usurper of Kiev as the guest of honor--the raison d'etre for their vitality, cohesion & vigor.
Rutte can't perform a rescue
OTAN has staked its credibility [sic & sarc] on the Usurper of Kiev
We've been given permission, now that Biden has officially & publicly been declared incontrovertibly dead, to recognize once & for all, alongside the gobsmacked horrified Usurper himself, that the war has been an unceasing 28-month long vivisection of Ukraine.
I hope there will be a lot of breakfasts @ the OTAN summit in D.C.--even !Breakfast for Dinner!--so that Kaja Kallas, who "eats Russians for breakfast," can display her Super Power & feel properly fortified. KK will no doubt travel to the OTAN summit in D.C. alongside Lady vdL. Sometimes there are eating contests in July: who can eat the most hot dogs? Gotta put your money on KK in any contest w/ comestibles, because she "eats Russians for breakfast."
What's clear: OTAN has lost "the Big Guy." His poor golf score in the debate means he can no longer play the game.
OTAN without the Big Guy means that OTAN is toast, which we in the Lyceum knew already.
If OTAN is toast, that means it is breakfast food.
That will make KK happy. When she "eats Russians for breakfast," she can do so on toast
Listen - the one great result for those who collect examples and evidence of terminal stupidity beyond deathwhish dimensions is that KK is now in her posting to be rushed into situations in which she's will have to improvise a great deal more than she has
Like Kamala, but a great deal worse, or actually better from our point of view
And so will provide monuments of stupidity which echo down the great halls of time - and be collected in treatises on the Acts Arts and Sayings Of the Last War - soon to written by China and RF authors
Much as we now read Clausewitz and Bismarck and even Sun Tzu to learn wisdom, we will enjoy KK for the pleasures of ignorance
Whatever the deal with Iran is will probably be the biggest tell of what is coming. I've said for a while that Israel is living on borrowed time if they don't solve their situation before Ukraine falls. From what I've seen of the IDF, they don't really have a counter to 1B Muslims with a nearly bottomless supply of lancets and FPV drones. 100k Norks sitting in Belarus probaby has its own strategic value vs NATO. Even if they don't do anything.
I agree with your comment except that ZioNazistan is not taking on 1 bln Muslims — most of the Muslims have never done anything against that racist cesspool.
No, ZioNazistan is merely up against Hezbollah and Iran, and those 2 are strong enough to convert the cesspool into a wonderful parking for 100,000,000 Egyptians.
The obvious reply is one they are crazy enough to think they can get away with- first, tactical nuclear warfare, then when that fails, they are going to end up in a thermonuclear murder/suicide. The "final solution" will be carried out by Zionist fascists- On themselves AND their relatives & neighbors.
Deploying DPRK troops would not be surprising as numerous such troops have been deployed in the past to Iran, Syria and South Lebanon. The North Koreans want to help, but no doubt also would like to have a first hand look at the war and Russian methods and organization in order to improve their own doctrine. Thus it would serve their interests even more than it would the Russian's. It's also a nice warning to NATO.
I still think it's just a part of SK copium tactics, because the sources are SK and you never trust their shit on NK. Still, NK is indeed absolutely interested in trying its own against the US, even if it's just battle systems, not personnel as of yet.
So, on the Crimea strike, its possible the AFU mounted sea-borne container type launchers and sent the missile in from the South west. They've done the same with SAMs so why not ATACMS. As for the submunition, entirely possible that they swapped out the standard munition and put in something homemade. To me the photo just looks a bit warped and the two are the same
As for escalation, and retaliation... I've come to the conclusion that Russia is in fact the underdog in this fight.
1) Ukraine is defacto NATO already, but like a cheap NATO where they get everything but soldiers and air power; so Article-5 "light". I suspect Estonia if invaded would get a slightly higher level of support, and its only if Poland was actually invaded would we see a real mobilization of armies
2) NATO missiles and drones are being fired into Russia. The scenario that they wanted to avoid in 2022 is happening, and pretty much nowhere is beyond reach of drones nowadays. So if the SMO was supposed to defend Russia and Russians, it is having the opposite effect
3) The secondary sanctions regime which will start to bite soon will allow the US treasury to enforce sanctions to another level. The Chinese won't be able to have their cake and eat it anymore
4) No matter how many casualties Ru inflicts on the battlefield; unlimited money and an open western border means that Ukr will always, always, always be able to reconstitute.
5) There is no real break in political will in the West. If anything the slow, slow, slow grind of the conflict has emboldened them. Elections don't matter; the Deep State controls everything anyway and even if someone like Farage wins in the UK (doubtful) it wouldn't change anything. You'd need a wholesale change in leadership everywhere at the same time and even then it would take quite the political feat to change direction
6) Russia won't impose costs; like imposing a No-Fly zone or interdicting weapons supplies (literally what Israel is doing in Syria/Lebanon and what the US would do anywhere in the world) because they can't. It is the simplest argument in the world to make that "x drone is involved in targeting and we have an obligation to defend Russian life so we took it down".
7) the Chinese are using the Russians as a cat's paw. All the N.Korea stuff + Vietnam and all that; Russia will get something in return from China
8) I have never felt that we are so close to nuclear conflict as I do now. And the Russians will be the ones forced to used them first
I washed the price tags off the new kitchen equipment. A couple of years later, I was cheffing, then managing days. Still make jambalaya & Creole occasionally...
Whenever something weird happened, we'd say "NOTO days are alike around here".
Well written. There are indeed dark clouds at the horizon. The attacks on Russia has increased and West is lowering the threshold further and further. Soon they all will stumble into an all-out war.
Demographically and in terms of morale, the west can't raise an army taking on Russia and China at the same time. They'd probably get their asses handed to them in a basket by Russia alone. We've been here before ... Korea and Vietnam as one example. And you add in all the other popup wars with Iran, Hezbollah , N Korea ... Our pop is just way too old to fight a major conflict and the kids all have curvature of the spine from looking at their cell phones. Like I said a couple days ago, also, China and Russia have fire control over the Persian Gulf. Try and fight a war on the other side of the world when your "gas station" is owned by the enemy now. All things considered, I'd think it's NATO that has no choice but a nuclear war.
Education is getting crazy expensive. People's jobs are vanishing or turning them into gig workers. We are at peace, as far as the citizens can see. With all of these factors, they still can't even come close to recruiting goals. I can just see the ad campaign for WW3. "Travel to distant lands. See the world. See the 2 million pissed off Chinese and Russian soldiers cresting the hill. See God." Who the fuck in their right mind is going to enlist for a war with China, Russia and the rest ? In fact I'd predict half the USAF will go AWOL in Canada or Mexico.
With respect this is foolish - the RF (and the NK and Iran) are openly at war - China is not, for to preserve deniability, and to keep peace making in their sights
China has, indeed, succeeded in making the US optimistic that sanctions, as other US interventions, with regard to China are not a total failure - but then that is the point
Read the Joint Declaration - this is not a document drawn up for the purposes of propoganda
China has to look after China first, which I understand. What that means however is that they still overwhelmingly rely on the US financial system (SWIFT/USD) and on naval transport of goods both in and out. The other thing going against them is 36 years of one-child; which means Chinese tolerance of casualties despite their vast population is far lower than anyone elses. I think you're right that they are 100% reorienting their stance; it takes time though and right now thats one commodity nobody has in great reserves
It is unclear quite how much China 'relies' on SWIFT - it was thought by the US that the RF 'relied' on SWIFT, until it was demonstrated that they did not
That China has not responded to US aggressions does not indicate weakness, just as RF declining to respond to the USNATO provocations is not be considered weakness
China has shifted a vast amount of exports away from the US - although reluctant to take direct actions even in the face of provocations such as 100% tarifs
China TFR is low but then so's every country's ex Africa - other Asian countries' are as low or lower still, as are western countries'
China has addressed this issue, the west has not - still talking about immigration as a solution
"A near-universal one-child limit was imposed in 1980 and written into the country's constitution in 1982.[4][5] Numerous exceptions were established over time, and by 1984, only about 35.4% of the population was subject to the original restriction of the policy."" Wiki
I think most of China's trade is done in dollars. Think of what the US could do to them. Also Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Morocco are now also tied to trade and debt in US dollars. US owns these countries, and that is why they are so pliable. Perhaps sanctions are more powerful in these countries than nukes.
China as RoW is reducing % of trade in dollars - the Russians have largely succeeded in excluding the $, otherwise used until the Ukraine war
It is an exageration to say that the US 'owns' the countries that continue to use $-----In China's case this appears to be the other way round - the US, including the US arms industry, is crucially dependent on China trade products and materials
Jordan? hardly counts - Turkey has bee a constant problem for both the EU and NATO and is now joining BRICS and greatly expanding trade with Russia and China
All sanctions so far applied by the USEU have backfired - it will be interesting to see them backfire should they try more sacntions again
2) The SMO was designed (officially at least) to defend RU from an encroaching West. Another way to look at the drone strikes is that the RU view was correct to have this safety corridor.
3) I agree they bite in the short term, but I think in the long term it's detrimental for the Western financial system because what else is fiat but "trust in the government"? Loose the trust, lose the money.
4) You'd need bodies. Ukraine is done for, for a long long time (at least a full generation I think). Think about all the mines that need to be cleared up, about all the people that escaped and won't come back, and all the people killed. It'll be an even bigger backwater country than it was before. Sadly enough!
The 'West' needs bodies as well as the Ukraine does, the 'West' have very very few bodies
This is the breaking of the western ruling class -the people will no longer fight their wars - even in the US this is very obvious
Sanctions have not worked against Russia, nor Iran, nor....not to the point of economic contraction, national cohension, nor degarading their military capabilities, in fact the contrary
Sanctions have not worked against China and will continue to not work
"NATO missiles and drones are being fired into Russia. The scenario that they wanted to avoid in 2022 is happening, and pretty much nowhere is beyond reach of drones nowadays. So if the SMO was supposed to defend Russia and Russians, it is having the opposite effect."
What is happening now was planned a decade ago and has nothing to do with the events of 2022. The NATO buildup in Ukraine long predates the SMO. The Russians chose not to wait until attacked, as Putin made very clear in his speech on 23 Feb 2022.
What has occurred since then provides the Russians with a laser sharp understanding of what they are up against. This translates to their allies also. China, DPRK, Iran, assorted others in the US crosshairs. Given their history and the current situation they won't back down. If USUK doesn't pull back (and there are signs this is happening) then WWIII is only going to expand rapidly.
Could be that The Powers That Be don't care that NATO wouldn't stand a chance in conventional war. Could be they WANT the whole damn planet nuked. They, the tiny minority, have contingency plans.
I've thought about that, but rejected it. Only the more stupid billionaires will think NZ bunkers will save them from nuclear winter. Or, for that matter, nuclear targeting, if every town of 25k+ population in the world is still targeted as it was in the Cold War. Bunkers just delay the inevitable.
I'm working on a screenplay set in a post-apocalyptic New Zealand. The Kiwis (with more than a few savage Māori) dig and pry the billionaires out of their de-luxe bunkers and just straight up eat them.
"Your PalPay account and software IP will not save you now Peter Theil! Bwahaha !
A massive unmasking--which is part of the asymmetrical hybrid war Russia has been waging all along. This is Exhibit A for the RoW, courtesy of the SMO.
War has its own momentum. Even if a country, out of benevolent motives, begins sending weapons to a scrappy but beleaguered ally under fire, the need to resupply the scrappy but beleaguered ally w/ weaponry intensifies. Doing so begins to warp the benevolence. A phase-change comes about. Escalation & mission-creep torque the involvement.
Winning, the imperative to win, creates a dynamic all its own; the imperative to avoid losing blows that imperative right out of the water. Defeating the belligerent @ any cost is so critical that the one-time benevolent country, an ally to the scrappy beleaguered one, merges w/ it as a belligerent too.
OTAN, led by the U.S., has lost its self in *Ukraine*
"the sanctions will start to bite soon" natoids have been saying this since 2014. They have had the opposite effect and has made the Russian economy stronger and incredibly self-reliant, which hasn't been the case since 1991. The Chinese will continue business as usual as they have with North Korea despite the "sanctions regime" being enforced, which is a much harsher regime than anything Russia is dealing with. Watch any current footage or trip to North Korea and you'll see everyone using products from China. There's even videos of North Korean factories making products, slapping Made in China on them, and shipping them across the border. It's even easier for China to have arrangements like this with Russia, on an even larger scale.
The most important part of the video evidence is the sound. It shows that munitions were deployed normally, not simply spilled onto the beach from a damaged missile. And that, in turn, proved that the beach was indeed the target. Mind that only a small fraction of the payload struck it, imagine what five full missiles would have done in a summer city full of people in the streets and open squares. It was definitely the answer to Putin's peace talks proposal.
There is no sound of AA working on any video, and the one from beach cafe is even more clear. Just the munitions deploying, then bursting. In the beach overview you can see this circle of them falling in the water. It also is telling. A damaged cluster munitions missile would spill them in a random fashion over a huge territory. Instead, here the payload was delivered in full, albeit not to the target proper. Maybe AA indeed glanced a hit to the rudders, hence the deviation, but it must have been an incredibly light hit for the missile that moves at tremendous speed to keep itself in one piece. Maybe they changed the munitions for something cheaper and locally available, but aerodynamics got off. All in all in the video we see what is a proper deployment of its cargo, supported by absence of AA explosions before and very short time between sound of the cluster popping and the payload striking ground or water.
But the "strike" is still a miss, isn't it? Otherwise it would have hit the beach proper, and casualties would have been much higher. You think its EW?
Near miss, but what factor should we hold accountable for it is debatable. AA glancing hit way before? Radioelectronic interference? Guidance error? Coordinates error? Payload mismatch or some latch breaking, resulting in them tilting to a side and throwing balance off? Who knows. We should be thankful that of five cluster missiles aimed at a city only a fraction of one’s load reached its destination. One can imagine with terror what a full strike would have wrought.
> 4) No matter how many casualties Ru inflicts on the battlefield; unlimited money and an open western border means that Ukr will always, always, always be able to reconstitute.
So, why then is the UkroNazi army so depleted and aren't they able to reconstitute it with outsiders? Whatever mercenaries did come are either killed or have (started to) run back to where they came from.
> interdicting weapons supplies (literally what Israel is doing in Syria/Lebanon and what the US would do anywhere in the world)
And which has failed miserably. If ZioNazistan would have been successful with that Hezbollah would not have the 150,000+ missiles and 1,000,000 drones and other weapons.
As for the U.S., NK has been under similar sanctions for decades. The result: NK now has (hypersonic?) ballistic missiles that can reach the U.S.
Human stupidity is endless. After 2 years since the SMO started you still believe that NATO is capable to defeat Russia or at least wage a large war against peer enemy? Are you blind? Absolutely everything they did against Russia failed and turned against them. Destroy the Russian economy with sanctions? Failed. The Russian economy is growing faster than ever. Isolate Russia? Failed. The whole world, with the exception of the West, is now on Russia’s side. Stage a coup and regime change in Russia? Failed. Putin's support and popularity are stronger than ever. Weaken the Russian army? Failed. The Russian army has become larger and stronger than at the beginning of the SMO. The Great Ukrainian Counter-Offensive and the Capture of Crimea? Failed. The entire military strategy and tactics of NATO turned out to be absolutely useless in a real war. Nobody is afraid of NATO anymore and the myth of military and technological superiority is completely dispelled. US carrier strike group humiliated by poor desert people in sandals and leaving Red Sea in fear. Absolutely everything failed. Where is at least a single fact indicating that if NATO will provoke direct confrontation, they will be able to do anything successful?
As a rule, anyone who resorts to ad hominem remarks instead of a normal discussion and exchange of arguments and ideas gets an automatic block from me. Your "human stupidity" remark qualifies. Plenty of commentators were able to disagree with what I said in a normal way - but not you. You're not the first, so, there's that.
As a piece of unsolicited advice, don't say something online that you wouldn't also say irl to someone to their face. I have no time for keyboard warriors and internet assholes.
My disagreement is on the availability of human beings to fight the war on the UkR side; I believe both the quantity and quality of the UKR soldiers is degrading over time, they are now losing 2000+ per day, they can’t backfill that.
1). Defacto NATO. Incompetent and ineffectual. Agreed.
2). The drones and missiles are pinpricks. They are ignored, see #1.
3). Sanctions are only effective if everyone is using the same banking system. Russia’s GDP has outpaced the entire west.
4). Reconstitute…maybe but by no means with ukrainians. They are running out of men to make more ukrainians.
5). Agreed.
6). No fly zones where, like in Russia, Syria, etc…,Interdicting weapons supplies where, like in ukraine, because they can’t? Pretty sure Russia just floated three warships through the Caribbean and less than one hundred miles away from Miami. Soon enough western drones will not be able to fly over the Black Sea due to Russia’s superior EW capabilities that are getting better everyday with practice.
7). The doomsday clock is at 90 seconds to midnight, so yes nuclear war is on the horizon. Russia’s constitution prohibits them from using nukes in a first strike scenario, only for defense. It will be the west who provokes a retaliatory strike. Limited tactical at first. The wonder weapon F16 (HA) is capable of carrying nuclear weapons. It is considered a first strike aircraft. Why do you think the west is adamant about sending them to ukraine, it is to provoke a nuclear response by sending first strike aircraft to support a non-nato proxy.
The omen that Zelensky visits Ukrainian cities before they fall does not work in the case of Kupyansk. He was in Kupyansk in November 2023 and February 2024.
See, he jinxed it twice, now Kupyansk must fall so spectacularly that whole sections of the front will collapse. It might take more time to channel though.
Hmmm, North Korea enters the war...perhaps it wants to get some of the credit for finishing off Zelensky's forces...that would certainly enhance its stature with Russian allies and even BRICS...
May be the Russian plane went to US to get more people back. I read US has closed down several Russian visa centres recently.
The signs from West are so confusing. Perhaps their escalatory/provocative actions and rhetoric reflect their wish which does not match with present capabilities. I don't think they've enough ammunition for ground attacks after the so-called decapitation strike. And I don't think these parasites are ideological/determined enough to commit suicide in pursuit of their not so grand strategy.
The rumored DPRK troops are combat engineers. One of their tasks is the erecting of river crossings under fire. I can think of several areas on the front where such skills might be practiced. Or perhaps they're specialized demining sappers. The point is they don't need to be combat assault forces and IMO don't sound like it. Otherwise, the Ukies continue to back peddle most everywhere.
Can't we in the west show some respect and delay WW3 for another few weeks ? I don't know about anyone else but it's Gay Pride Month in Canada. WW3 would be a huge distraction.
I'm sure that's the plan. It's just a matter of making an appointment in the busy schedule of "National" days. Weekend might be best. Saturday's no good, that's Sabbat. Probably Sunday morning would be best, only churchgoers will be inconvenienced.
Russians look to be utilizing the death by a thousand cuts modus operandi. The NK angle is just another calculated slashing riposte against NOTO's persistent offenses.
Sounds like Russia is daring NATO to put their money where there mouth is. If you really want a war, send your NATO troops. Or stfu and piss off.
Russia is ready.
I prefer NOTO.
New Orleans Take Out?
Was a decent restaurant in Madison, WI from around 1984 until a few years ago...
You managed to say in a couple of lines what I took a right old ramble to put together. Thanks for that.
During SPIEF 2023, VVP quipped, "We haven't even started yet."
They've started.
Just wo points Id like to make...If your deciding between fat paycheck motivated American mercenaries, and serving North Korean troops handpicked for their skill and loyalty to Kim Jong Un..PUT YOUR MONEY ON THE KOREANS. Point # 2...this is what the cold war in the internet era looks like..don't get too worried by any of these stories..some of us have seen it all before .
Who can forget Rodney King style policing and roof top Koreans?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooftop_Koreans
Koreans are hard...they were the toughest guys on either side in VN...their fire discipline was, literally, insane and the North Koreans haven't gotten westerner-soft in the passing decades
Yep, probably all starved for pussy and pissed off, like a lot of the Chinese men.
I was Russia a year (2005) after the Beslan school massacre. Travelled from Moscow to Ufa. Anyone who thinks they are going to terrorize the Russian people into submission doesn't know the Russian. They are stoic nation and will do what they have to do, and suffer what they must, in order to finish the job. Period.
WORK BROTHERS!
I salute you.
Yes, the Russians endured far worse civilian losses from the Nazi legions, and didn't blink for a moment...
That... woefully accords with your nickname.
Russia blinked and cried and dried the tears and wiped the fuckers who raped their country off the battlefield. And today that is all buried under NATO propaganda wherein the Poles, who bravely fled to London and other points west that were safe, are the heroes. THEY saved Europe. Or the Americans, coming in at the tail end and doing a fine job but hardly being the Nation Without Which Europe would have lost to the Evil Hitler, supported by large swathes of European populations and more and more the farther east toward the ultimate fascists, the Captive Nations. Or the west Ukrainians, whom we in the Garden laud for "fighting with us in WWII." Ask anybody who lived there in WWII -- they marched with the Nazis, so who did the west march with? Today I'd have to say Nazis -- that is whom we support and arm and use to the "last man" to fight our wars of imperialism and conquest today, so what the hell was WWII about? But the US has passed the zenith of power and on the way down, it will see again all the faces it stepped on to get to be the Hegemon.
the US stopped wanting to learn about other countries when it found out how easy it was NOT to bother understanding and just bully and pillage. That's all we have left is that lizard brain.
Who runs the US currently? Not the citizens, not even Americans.
Oligarchs of foreign origin. All politicians of both supposedly opposing parties are merely their paid whores. All western media (The Mighty Wurlitzer) is just a massive lie-machine. The "president" is a literal retarded ventriloquist-dummy who can't even read the lines given to him on the teleprompter correctly.
and nowhere in Europe do the citizens reign, except in Hungary, Slovakia (!), Belarus and Russia. Those are all places that retain a strong sense of nationhood and cultural/ethnic identity and harmony. The rest want to "carve up" Russia (and that's just step one!) as the new "Foreign Minister" of the EU proclaims. Many Slavs see all this in Ukraine as a way to kill off all the Slavs, I guess leaving the least talented (NATO members all) to rule the Slavic Kingdom now and forever.
Just as in your Poland comment it is the same group of people doing this, England's biggest mistake was going to rescue Poland.
Same people always, then and now they ruin the US, they hate us as they hated the rest of Europe.
Creating trouble where ever they went.
Entities w/ the MIC, Big Oil & Finance steer American interests. Citizens do not, by & large, run in those circles
One of my pet peeves is the reference to large nameless groups that are to blame, no one uses names, they use anonymous groups.
All you have to do is look and you see the names...
Larry Fink, Alejandro Mayorkas, here's a whole list.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-the-biden-administration
And the media? Get a load of these names.
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/futureofmedia/index-us-mainstream-media-ownership
And AIPAC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC
"Petty" theft
https://ifamericansknew.org/
Take a stroll through the CEO's and coordinators of big pharma to see the same.
You see, they like to brag and they don't have any concern about it.
The Citizens United concept that *corporations are people* fits well w/ an anti-humanist view of Western elites
Look at the names.
Elena Kagan Arguing against? Laughable, and now she is on the SCOTUS.
The 2 below arguing for.
Floyd Abrams
Seth Waxman
Erwin Chemerinsky called it "one of the most important First Amendment cases in years"
All Jewish.
It's amusing that "MIC" can now be taken as "Medical Industrial Complex".
WASPs have always been this way. The Brits were that way before us.
It's easy to blame this stuff on the "other bankers" but the United States has treated treaties as if they are toilet paper for centuries. Long before certain groups got influence.
An it learned that before the civil war.
Russian people increase support of war when they get attacked! Ukraine is doing opposite of what they think when they kill Russian citizens. I am positive that USA play part in this, they want WW3 and this time they will be defeated, just as Russia defeat Germany during WW2 but USA write as if they defeat Germany. D-Day was end of German Empire, very weak people guarding beach. This was 2 full years after Russia declare war on Germany and kill many of them when they attack. 20 million die, 20 million. USA cannot handle 7 thousand that die in Afganistan. But they think they will fight Russia? Their casuality will be 7 thousand A DAY! They will not sell this to American people., they will NOT be able to go for draft., the citizens will NOT go for it!
1. Duh the attack on the beach was a deliberate act of terrorism by NATO. What does Russia propose to do about it?
2. Concerning allegations of NK troops - what would this accomplish, as Russia doesn't have a manpower problem?
Overwhelming force.
Allied overwhelming force
So stupid ---That NATO is merely capable of terrorism, you fool - and not of a mass deployment of allied troops and arms
CIA nik f off
They would be capable of achieving air superiority (not supremacy) for a time with the trained pilots NATO has, but the legions required to march in behind and occupy the rubble are a long way away.
Plus, it takes longer to mobilize in the US because the soldiers have to say goodbye to both of their moms.
Maybe, but they do not know how to do even this
- maybe airlift out some organs? some more surrogate babies for their moms?
Why waste all those shiny planes when they can be 'used' to threaten the Chinese military? or to sell to the frightened Chinese in Taiwan
NATO doesn't have enough soldiers, in total, to invade any part of Russia, even with air cover....
Maybe we will see France and Germany start to haul people off of the street and throw them into vans and drive them to the front lines to join their fellow Western soldiers already fighting in Ukraine.
Highly unlikely, but untrained civilians are worse than useless in a high tech war...
I think Olaf might have a hard time selling an invasion of Russia to guys whose big family secret is their Russian genes acquired in the closing days of WW2. Oh well go for it Germany. Maybe 3 will be the charm. I'll cook some popcorn.
If the Empire were to foolishly escalate the war, the obvious counter is to stretch the already over-stretched NATO forces. Taiwan, you say? No, because both the Chinese people and the people in Taiwan don't want it and don't need it. North versus South Korea ? Naw. Again, don't need, don't want. Koreans are not suicidal.
But the large and important region from Morocco to Iran has a lot of unfinished business with the West. If even only a third of those nations decide to rise up and fix things, all of NATO's military would lose badly. With Turkiye choosing to sit it out (and they would), the numbers are even worse for the West.
Bottom line, the West is bluffing and everyone should know it.
Meanwhile Russia apparently has nuke missile boats loitering off the East and West coasts of the US.
Yes Putin mentioned several years ago that they do, just as a matter if course.
They did in 1963, too. Only the Americans didn't realize it. On two occasions the captains of Russian subs, with delegated authorization, decided to launch nuclear torpedos at US carriers as their last act of defiance before they were sunk. The first changed his mind: the second didn't, was supported by his political officer, and was stopped only by "the man who saved the world", the naval brigade's chief of staff who happened to be aboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov.
Because the Americans didn't know the subs could carry nuclear weapons, any attack on the carrier (which would have vaporized or incapacitated the USN carrier group, thus no immediate witnesses) likely would have been interpreted as a missile from Cuba. Instant thermonuclear exchange...
Instead of a token force of 6,000 men in Cuba as US intelligence thought, the Russians had 42k troops plus more than a hundred tactical nukes in Cuba that the Americans didn't know were there until after the end of the Cold War. The US intended invasion thus would have been a catastrophe...
"Both their Moms"... Love it !
"Yo MOMMA!!!"
"Which one?"
Do u really believe washington will take the risk of seeing its flying iron F35 burn down ? No way. Business prevails
Flying iron... This is definitely new... steams?
"They would be capable of achieving air superiority (not supremacy) for a time"
How? With the superior US EW? The superior US logistics chain for their superior aircraft?
When you flush a toilet it takes some time for all the turds to go down.
Air superiority with trained Nato pilots: huh? You mean to say Russia does not have trained pilots? I beg to differ and do not see any way Nato could achieve any superiority over the Russian air force in any way, shape or form, but perhaps I am missing something?
I meant that America has a number of trained pilots, in contrast to the US Army which is in horrible shape and can’t win a firefight against goat herders even with air supremacy.
Russias pilots are clearly better experienced because of the war and all.
Plus they speak the same language as is used in the flight manuals, and on the instrument panels, which is a boon.
NOTO!
@Vasilios
Damn, I could really use a fried oyster po' boy sandwich right now!
https://images.app.goo.gl/QvBeWvFDRVb1WL449
Just send a battalion, and make sure that they are on the front line.
The prestige of allying with and helping the most powerful Army in the world to win a war...A very depressing situation for the South Koreans, who are allied with a rapidly declining US...
Which in turn raises the question of why the rest of the world is not lining up for this glorious opportunity?
I think the NK personnel being construction battalions makes more sense.
Agreed.
There is a manpower shortage in Russia, or at least a labor squeeze. Grandma, grandpa, uncle and auntie taking on a few more shifts at the factory will go some way but rebuilding blasted cities and clearing battlefields is another story.
Interesting little-known fact from history, in WWI the British and French used more than 100,000 of Chinese workers. Very useful
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Labour_Corps
Not to mention that, unlike the traditional source of Russian reserve labor (the 'Stans), there isn't much danger of CIA-sponsored jihadis from NK.
You Moron - the RoW is volunteering - wants nothing better than for you to ff off
Gringo CIA go home
They are construction workers and one can never have enough of those for repairing the leveled cities.
Makes more sense than most of the responses. Not to mention there probably aren't many CIA sponsored jihadi sleepers in NK.
Unbeknown to many, Russia has a very significant ethnic Korean pop already. The richest gal in Russia being one of them. Russian billionaire Tatyana Bakalchuk.
..... And sadly yes, she is seeing someone.
For that matter, Shoigu,.Vladimir Kim or, not so long ago Viktor Tsoi.
If the NK soldiers were to simply do jobs like demining or truck driving or trench-digging, that would release Russian soldiers to do more active roles. Obvious.
#1: Give the NK military hands on experience vs. a more or less NATO flavored opponent? Which the NK Military can't really get at home, without re starting the Korean war vs. the South.
NK: Just trolling Azov by going after them with troops that Azov publicly declare subhuman? Like the Chechens at Mariopol, iirc the Tannu Tuvans at Avdeevka (Azov ran like rabbits) etc.
Or perhaps they're just trolling generally: maybe it really is just engineers and thus symbolic. The NK troops aren't indoctrinated with Russian military doctrines, so in combat roles probably would be cannon-fodder for a while. Which would be counter-productive as it'd play to the Western narrative.
"The NK troops aren't indoctrinated with Russian military doctrines, so in combat roles probably would be cannon-fodder for a while"
How about a battalion or two of NK 300mm MLRS crews? They are safely behind the lines and get real world practice against meat targets.
Typo: 600mm MLRS, a frightening battlefield weapon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ipPnKAuz0
So you think giving NK engineering troops first hand experience with de-mining, defusing and otherwise familiarising themselves with Western weaponry is somehow pointless??
Never mind the value of first hand trench warfare experience...
Actually a benefit to NK for their troops to be able to operate in real world conditions, something South Korean troops are not able to do. Look how much Hezbollah benefited from being operational in Syria. There is no substitute for actual combat experience. This is what NATO mercenary pilots will learn when they try to fly F-16s against Russia out of Romania against veteran Russian pilots in superior aircraft and world-class air defense systems.
Training up NK troops for future combat. Battle hardened NK vs West-soft SK.
It is funny to me that the only people "reporting" this are S. Korea -US puppet and then it gets picked up by all the other western puppets who all claim the source to be S. Korea . I remember once upon a time when you needed 2 independent sources (hahaha). In fact, the quick glance I had at Russian news said "Kremlin is unaware of reports of N. Korea (engineers) going to Ukraine, here is a wild take, N. Korea is sending workers to Russia to work in manufacturing and construction projects. I notice that our objective friend S does not even mention the simple and most likely answer.
Exactly, butthurt SK is invoking yet another media bubble. Nothing to see here at all. Russia is still years and years from indulging other nations help apart from singular fighters on contract with RMD.
Therein lies the real problem, in that SK will stop hemming and hawing as it did previously, and cast its lot more fully with the US.
That will have zero effect on anything.
I thought, for example, that Ukraine had shortages of artillery shells, among other things?
KDPR will get more than a paycheck and friendship with Russia. Their soldiers will get actual intense combat experience, which their army hasn't had since 1953. Even more than Korean "boots on the ground" in 404-stan, this coming increase in Nork combat capability should make the Empire's puppets in South Korea and Japan, think harder about getting off the march towards WW3.
Which raises the question of why nobody else is lining up for the opportunity.
A more likely answer is that any NK personnel are doing construction work.
It gives NK troops practice and experience which are quite valuable when they return to fight SK.
Assumes a lot of facts not in evidence.
? Practice and experience are not valuable in fights? NK and SK are not belligerents against each other?
NK and SK haven't actually fought in over 50 years.
Uh, how do you define 'fought'.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/21/south-korea-fires-warning-shots-as-north-korean-soldiers-cross-border-again
Especially considering that the same Korean war was the last open conflict of Russia and USA. Is the current Ukraine proxy war of the US and Russia impossible because it's ALSO been 50 years since the Korean war? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
If you call that "fighting". Anyway, the whole silly thing raises the question why nobody else is volunteering for this golden opportunity here.
1, Russia won't tell us but they will answer asymmetrical
2, I think this is BS there won't be any NK soldiers at this moment
We've been hearing 1. for over two years now.
I suspect that you are right with respect to 2.
It is encouraging that the West is frightened, to this point, by rumours of NK sending troops, arms, or indeed 'construction workers'
- some kind of realism , as it is likely troops will be sent
Fear that they can be sent, and that the west has no certain way to know how many troops, or arms, and can do nothing to prevent it
Any sort of parallel agreement with Iran would have the same result, perhaps, and should be treated with the same fear by the west
Both initiatives certainly result from the Joint Declaration with China, and constitute a military alliance for the Ukraine war, as well as preparing for any eventual 'Taiwan ' war
Be careful what you wish for, as frightened people can do very stupid things.
Who is frightened here? The NATO class is frightened -
......but NATO is is always frightened - it's a 'defensive' alliance is it not, so it's raison d'être is to be frightened
Despite this fright it's not done a great deal except bomb Belgrade or some mountains in Afghan, certainly rather less than zero (in effect) in Ukraine
But what can this class now do? Continue to bla bla? Or.....? Eventually...?
They can do very stupid things as their delusions and panic take over from any rational thought. I didn't think we would get to anything like this point but here we are. Any rational actor would have folded the tent when the Ukrainian offensive collapsed, after all, when the defender gains more territory than the attacker you are right royally screwed, but no, the idiots just push on thinking that because they haven't got a smack in the face yet, it is never going to happen. Unjustified optimism has killed far more people than sober pessimism
I don't think that the bulk of Western policy makers are in any way rational and have very poor judgement if they are. They should just stop and accept that they have fucked up and wear the consequences or grab their gear and head to Ukraine themselves, put their own lives at risk for once instead of everyone else's.
NATO has been irrational, doing stupidity, for longer than anyone has been alive, almost
They are paid to be irrational, and to be stupid - remember that reason is now and was forever the white man's disgrace
The US ruling class has always worked to the principle that the only guiding directive of their policy, both internal as external, has been to install and to maintain chaos
More recently this ruling class has contaminated the EU ruling class, who's actions, who's internal directed acts and most external too, since WW2, were at least slightly less irrational
Read the Joint Declaration, the MSC 2007 Speech, the May 7 Executive Order - have you ever known anyone who has ever dreamed that a coherent rational statement of policy aims, in any domain, can or may be produced by the USNATOEU, with any rational means intent or prospect of execution?
Doing "very stupid things" is the mentality of Endless War. Once you get into it, once you declare that the enemy must be vanquished, that it is an existential absolute to vanquish this enemy, you start doing things you vowed you would not do. The mentality is such that once you get into it, and you've determined that vanquishing the enemy is a maximalist absolute, there are no curbs or brakes.
A limit regarding what the West will do to "help Ukraine" does not seem to exist.
This is the same West which profligately rained cluster munitions down on Kosovo for 11 weeks in 1999.
Your statement confirms Gerrard White's "Despite this fright it's not done a great deal except bomb Belgrade or some mountains in Afghan, certainly rather less than zero (in effect) in Ukraine".
In other words, Nato is good for bloviating and attacking defenceless civilians, not for taking on a peer opponent.
Now, where else are we currently seeing that?
Yes, but what if having realized that bloviating is not enough, they decide to do something kinetic? This imponderable is always there with weakness and the West's weakness is revealed day after day.
I don't share your insouciance.
And that attack on Kosovo was in large measure motivated by a then President (Clinton/blue dress) under threat who needed a really big distraction.
We are at a similar point, except now an entire regime is under threat.
The policy makers are the parliamentarians, and they can scream as much as they wish, they are not the ones who push the red button.
Have to disagree. The policy makers are think tanks, hedge funds, military corporations, the media, corporate donors, political apparatchiks and others who want their hands unseen.
The parliamentarians in the major parties just put their hands up and vote for what they have been told by those who pay to ensure that this is what happens
Recall what Representative Thomas Massie told Tucker during their sit-down: that AIPAC, for instance, assigns a handler to each congressional member in the U.S.
Think of other large lobbying interests on Capitol Hill: MIC, Big Oil, Finance. Gotta believe they have emulated AIPAC's successful approach & have contrived a similar model--dispersing their handlers throughout the Beltway
Policy makers are the elite, the billionaires who own the media which chose to parade Lindsay Graham and the rest of the liars to promote war. Take Gates: World wide monopoly in computer software, media baron with MSNBC, NBC, and PBS through Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, and dominant health care monopolist who both creates viruses and the gene therapy to fight them. Now that is a lucrative business. "Russia invaded Ukraine for no reason."
Newsflash from 1973 all rational thought at the federal level ends.
They are driven on like horses maddened by flies, for without the Ukraine war going wide and possibly another pandemic scam, they are looking at a very probable Trump win.
They are the often referenced crew that prefer to rule over the ashes than to lose power.
How is stating an accurate observation "wishing"? Explain yourself
Those who flatter themselves in playing the Strategic Ambiguity game so cunningly well don't like it when an adversary runs the table
I don't think Western pols are scared of WWIII, but of being forced out of power. The usual gambit of stirring up an international crisis to act as political distraction at home is not working recently. This doesn't solve any of the problems, unfortunately, it just replaces the figureheads with another cohort who will read the same lines from the same teleprompter
On the other hand, solidarity among the "rest of the world" is a significant development in itself
For Western pols, being forced out of power is in fact their existential crisis--their WWIII.
The figureheads who replace the retread Western pols will self-deplete @ some point. Their dearth of imagination, dearth of vision, dearth of novel approaches will be the rocks against they break their ship.
The RoW's strategy right now is to run out the clock, allowing the interests driving Western foreign policy--MIC, Oil, Finance--to exhaust themselves, which will create a space for a burgeoning process where those hegemonic zero-sum interests get replaced w/ more constructive & consonant intersts willing to work w/ the RoW rather than irrationally trying to subjugate it.
I know it's hard to imagine this now, but someday a unipolar hegemon, who has galvanized a coterie of obeisant vassals & from that arrogance subjugates everybody else, will seem like a quaint anomaly
the Usurper of Kiev seems stumblingly to realize suddenly that the war he has stood atop for 28 months is yielding horrific casualties: wounded, maimed, killed
He has just awakened to this--?!!?
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9X58JFrZtg
This is interesting - another sign the end is nigh, and by implication that all the happy face figures given by the NATO ites for RF dead, up to 500,000 or even more, are just as much a lie as the low figures publicised for Uk dead
Also acknowedging that recent US aid arms and cash is inadequate - especially the airplane tokenism
Boots on the ground? Perhaps they'll finally have to put paid to this false promise - NATO meeting coming soon, no?
Doesn't help that Biden has been declared dead
Will be a grim summit for OTAN in D.C. w/ Formaldehyde Joe as the host & of course the Usurper of Kiev as the guest of honor--the raison d'etre for their vitality, cohesion & vigor.
Rutte can't perform a rescue
OTAN has staked its credibility [sic & sarc] on the Usurper of Kiev
We've been given permission, now that Biden has officially & publicly been declared incontrovertibly dead, to recognize once & for all, alongside the gobsmacked horrified Usurper himself, that the war has been an unceasing 28-month long vivisection of Ukraine.
Thanks! What will be the fig leaf outcome of the NATO meeting?
They'll have to 'announce' something....but what?
I hope there will be a lot of breakfasts @ the OTAN summit in D.C.--even !Breakfast for Dinner!--so that Kaja Kallas, who "eats Russians for breakfast," can display her Super Power & feel properly fortified. KK will no doubt travel to the OTAN summit in D.C. alongside Lady vdL. Sometimes there are eating contests in July: who can eat the most hot dogs? Gotta put your money on KK in any contest w/ comestibles, because she "eats Russians for breakfast."
What's clear: OTAN has lost "the Big Guy." His poor golf score in the debate means he can no longer play the game.
OTAN without the Big Guy means that OTAN is toast, which we in the Lyceum knew already.
If OTAN is toast, that means it is breakfast food.
That will make KK happy. When she "eats Russians for breakfast," she can do so on toast
Listen - the one great result for those who collect examples and evidence of terminal stupidity beyond deathwhish dimensions is that KK is now in her posting to be rushed into situations in which she's will have to improvise a great deal more than she has
Like Kamala, but a great deal worse, or actually better from our point of view
And so will provide monuments of stupidity which echo down the great halls of time - and be collected in treatises on the Acts Arts and Sayings Of the Last War - soon to written by China and RF authors
Much as we now read Clausewitz and Bismarck and even Sun Tzu to learn wisdom, we will enjoy KK for the pleasures of ignorance
Whatever the deal with Iran is will probably be the biggest tell of what is coming. I've said for a while that Israel is living on borrowed time if they don't solve their situation before Ukraine falls. From what I've seen of the IDF, they don't really have a counter to 1B Muslims with a nearly bottomless supply of lancets and FPV drones. 100k Norks sitting in Belarus probaby has its own strategic value vs NATO. Even if they don't do anything.
I agree with your comment except that ZioNazistan is not taking on 1 bln Muslims — most of the Muslims have never done anything against that racist cesspool.
No, ZioNazistan is merely up against Hezbollah and Iran, and those 2 are strong enough to convert the cesspool into a wonderful parking for 100,000,000 Egyptians.
The obvious reply is one they are crazy enough to think they can get away with- first, tactical nuclear warfare, then when that fails, they are going to end up in a thermonuclear murder/suicide. The "final solution" will be carried out by Zionist fascists- On themselves AND their relatives & neighbors.
See here for one scenario:
https://yasha.substack.com/p/entry-1-the-job?triedRedirect=true
Deploying DPRK troops would not be surprising as numerous such troops have been deployed in the past to Iran, Syria and South Lebanon. The North Koreans want to help, but no doubt also would like to have a first hand look at the war and Russian methods and organization in order to improve their own doctrine. Thus it would serve their interests even more than it would the Russian's. It's also a nice warning to NATO.
Permits the "construction workers" to familiarize themselves w/ the hot zone & adjust to the conditions on the ground: heat check
And what will these construction workers be building, graves for the West?
Rebuilding Donbass - the previous rumours of the presence of NK construction workers were to do with the re construction of Mariupol
I still think it's just a part of SK copium tactics, because the sources are SK and you never trust their shit on NK. Still, NK is indeed absolutely interested in trying its own against the US, even if it's just battle systems, not personnel as of yet.
So, on the Crimea strike, its possible the AFU mounted sea-borne container type launchers and sent the missile in from the South west. They've done the same with SAMs so why not ATACMS. As for the submunition, entirely possible that they swapped out the standard munition and put in something homemade. To me the photo just looks a bit warped and the two are the same
As for escalation, and retaliation... I've come to the conclusion that Russia is in fact the underdog in this fight.
1) Ukraine is defacto NATO already, but like a cheap NATO where they get everything but soldiers and air power; so Article-5 "light". I suspect Estonia if invaded would get a slightly higher level of support, and its only if Poland was actually invaded would we see a real mobilization of armies
2) NATO missiles and drones are being fired into Russia. The scenario that they wanted to avoid in 2022 is happening, and pretty much nowhere is beyond reach of drones nowadays. So if the SMO was supposed to defend Russia and Russians, it is having the opposite effect
3) The secondary sanctions regime which will start to bite soon will allow the US treasury to enforce sanctions to another level. The Chinese won't be able to have their cake and eat it anymore
4) No matter how many casualties Ru inflicts on the battlefield; unlimited money and an open western border means that Ukr will always, always, always be able to reconstitute.
5) There is no real break in political will in the West. If anything the slow, slow, slow grind of the conflict has emboldened them. Elections don't matter; the Deep State controls everything anyway and even if someone like Farage wins in the UK (doubtful) it wouldn't change anything. You'd need a wholesale change in leadership everywhere at the same time and even then it would take quite the political feat to change direction
6) Russia won't impose costs; like imposing a No-Fly zone or interdicting weapons supplies (literally what Israel is doing in Syria/Lebanon and what the US would do anywhere in the world) because they can't. It is the simplest argument in the world to make that "x drone is involved in targeting and we have an obligation to defend Russian life so we took it down".
7) the Chinese are using the Russians as a cat's paw. All the N.Korea stuff + Vietnam and all that; Russia will get something in return from China
8) I have never felt that we are so close to nuclear conflict as I do now. And the Russians will be the ones forced to used them first
NOTO!
NOTO meaning in this case? Only thing I could find was Nothing Out of The Ordinary.
New Orleans Take Out!
https://images.app.goo.gl/QvBeWvFDRVb1WL449
I washed the price tags off the new kitchen equipment. A couple of years later, I was cheffing, then managing days. Still make jambalaya & Creole occasionally...
Whenever something weird happened, we'd say "NOTO days are alike around here".
Well written. There are indeed dark clouds at the horizon. The attacks on Russia has increased and West is lowering the threshold further and further. Soon they all will stumble into an all-out war.
I believe they want war. A ‘new American Century’ depends on destruction of Europe and East Asia, exactly what led to USA dominance last century.
Demographically and in terms of morale, the west can't raise an army taking on Russia and China at the same time. They'd probably get their asses handed to them in a basket by Russia alone. We've been here before ... Korea and Vietnam as one example. And you add in all the other popup wars with Iran, Hezbollah , N Korea ... Our pop is just way too old to fight a major conflict and the kids all have curvature of the spine from looking at their cell phones. Like I said a couple days ago, also, China and Russia have fire control over the Persian Gulf. Try and fight a war on the other side of the world when your "gas station" is owned by the enemy now. All things considered, I'd think it's NATO that has no choice but a nuclear war.
Education is getting crazy expensive. People's jobs are vanishing or turning them into gig workers. We are at peace, as far as the citizens can see. With all of these factors, they still can't even come close to recruiting goals. I can just see the ad campaign for WW3. "Travel to distant lands. See the world. See the 2 million pissed off Chinese and Russian soldiers cresting the hill. See God." Who the fuck in their right mind is going to enlist for a war with China, Russia and the rest ? In fact I'd predict half the USAF will go AWOL in Canada or Mexico.
China is absolutely a kingmaker here, equivalent to the US but at another level. I think they are still playing both sides.
With respect this is foolish - the RF (and the NK and Iran) are openly at war - China is not, for to preserve deniability, and to keep peace making in their sights
China has, indeed, succeeded in making the US optimistic that sanctions, as other US interventions, with regard to China are not a total failure - but then that is the point
Read the Joint Declaration - this is not a document drawn up for the purposes of propoganda
China has to look after China first, which I understand. What that means however is that they still overwhelmingly rely on the US financial system (SWIFT/USD) and on naval transport of goods both in and out. The other thing going against them is 36 years of one-child; which means Chinese tolerance of casualties despite their vast population is far lower than anyone elses. I think you're right that they are 100% reorienting their stance; it takes time though and right now thats one commodity nobody has in great reserves
It is unclear quite how much China 'relies' on SWIFT - it was thought by the US that the RF 'relied' on SWIFT, until it was demonstrated that they did not
That China has not responded to US aggressions does not indicate weakness, just as RF declining to respond to the USNATO provocations is not be considered weakness
China has shifted a vast amount of exports away from the US - although reluctant to take direct actions even in the face of provocations such as 100% tarifs
China TFR is low but then so's every country's ex Africa - other Asian countries' are as low or lower still, as are western countries'
China has addressed this issue, the west has not - still talking about immigration as a solution
https://ccgupdate.substack.com/cp/145763671
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/05/23/why-paying-women-to-have-more-babies-wont-work
The Chinese economy remains export oriented: about 20%
https://www.statista.com/statistics/256591/share-of-chinas-exports-in-gross-domestic-product/
Of those $3+ tr, most of that is done via USD and SWIFT. Its not as simple as just decoupling from either side.
Thats why this whole situation is so dangerous. The demand for competency and diplomacy is enormous and we have neither
"A near-universal one-child limit was imposed in 1980 and written into the country's constitution in 1982.[4][5] Numerous exceptions were established over time, and by 1984, only about 35.4% of the population was subject to the original restriction of the policy."" Wiki
I think most of China's trade is done in dollars. Think of what the US could do to them. Also Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Morocco are now also tied to trade and debt in US dollars. US owns these countries, and that is why they are so pliable. Perhaps sanctions are more powerful in these countries than nukes.
China as RoW is reducing % of trade in dollars - the Russians have largely succeeded in excluding the $, otherwise used until the Ukraine war
It is an exageration to say that the US 'owns' the countries that continue to use $-----In China's case this appears to be the other way round - the US, including the US arms industry, is crucially dependent on China trade products and materials
Jordan? hardly counts - Turkey has bee a constant problem for both the EU and NATO and is now joining BRICS and greatly expanding trade with Russia and China
All sanctions so far applied by the USEU have backfired - it will be interesting to see them backfire should they try more sacntions again
https://www.gsam.com/content/gsam/us/en/institutions/market-insights/gsam-connect/2023/de-dollarization-currency-contenders.html
Some additional thoughts:
2) The SMO was designed (officially at least) to defend RU from an encroaching West. Another way to look at the drone strikes is that the RU view was correct to have this safety corridor.
3) I agree they bite in the short term, but I think in the long term it's detrimental for the Western financial system because what else is fiat but "trust in the government"? Loose the trust, lose the money.
4) You'd need bodies. Ukraine is done for, for a long long time (at least a full generation I think). Think about all the mines that need to be cleared up, about all the people that escaped and won't come back, and all the people killed. It'll be an even bigger backwater country than it was before. Sadly enough!
More or less agree with your other observations.
The 'West' needs bodies as well as the Ukraine does, the 'West' have very very few bodies
This is the breaking of the western ruling class -the people will no longer fight their wars - even in the US this is very obvious
Sanctions have not worked against Russia, nor Iran, nor....not to the point of economic contraction, national cohension, nor degarading their military capabilities, in fact the contrary
Sanctions have not worked against China and will continue to not work
NATO is a bluff
"NATO missiles and drones are being fired into Russia. The scenario that they wanted to avoid in 2022 is happening, and pretty much nowhere is beyond reach of drones nowadays. So if the SMO was supposed to defend Russia and Russians, it is having the opposite effect."
What is happening now was planned a decade ago and has nothing to do with the events of 2022. The NATO buildup in Ukraine long predates the SMO. The Russians chose not to wait until attacked, as Putin made very clear in his speech on 23 Feb 2022.
What has occurred since then provides the Russians with a laser sharp understanding of what they are up against. This translates to their allies also. China, DPRK, Iran, assorted others in the US crosshairs. Given their history and the current situation they won't back down. If USUK doesn't pull back (and there are signs this is happening) then WWIII is only going to expand rapidly.
Could be that The Powers That Be don't care that NATO wouldn't stand a chance in conventional war. Could be they WANT the whole damn planet nuked. They, the tiny minority, have contingency plans.
I've thought about that, but rejected it. Only the more stupid billionaires will think NZ bunkers will save them from nuclear winter. Or, for that matter, nuclear targeting, if every town of 25k+ population in the world is still targeted as it was in the Cold War. Bunkers just delay the inevitable.
I'm working on a screenplay set in a post-apocalyptic New Zealand. The Kiwis (with more than a few savage Māori) dig and pry the billionaires out of their de-luxe bunkers and just straight up eat them.
"Your PalPay account and software IP will not save you now Peter Theil! Bwahaha !
Tasty! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjAHw2DEBgw
A massive unmasking--which is part of the asymmetrical hybrid war Russia has been waging all along. This is Exhibit A for the RoW, courtesy of the SMO.
War has its own momentum. Even if a country, out of benevolent motives, begins sending weapons to a scrappy but beleaguered ally under fire, the need to resupply the scrappy but beleaguered ally w/ weaponry intensifies. Doing so begins to warp the benevolence. A phase-change comes about. Escalation & mission-creep torque the involvement.
Winning, the imperative to win, creates a dynamic all its own; the imperative to avoid losing blows that imperative right out of the water. Defeating the belligerent @ any cost is so critical that the one-time benevolent country, an ally to the scrappy beleaguered one, merges w/ it as a belligerent too.
OTAN, led by the U.S., has lost its self in *Ukraine*
It actually began in 1947 shortly after the CIA came into being. No doubt with much assistance from Nazis like Gehlen.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm
"the sanctions will start to bite soon" natoids have been saying this since 2014. They have had the opposite effect and has made the Russian economy stronger and incredibly self-reliant, which hasn't been the case since 1991. The Chinese will continue business as usual as they have with North Korea despite the "sanctions regime" being enforced, which is a much harsher regime than anything Russia is dealing with. Watch any current footage or trip to North Korea and you'll see everyone using products from China. There's even videos of North Korean factories making products, slapping Made in China on them, and shipping them across the border. It's even easier for China to have arrangements like this with Russia, on an even larger scale.
The most important part of the video evidence is the sound. It shows that munitions were deployed normally, not simply spilled onto the beach from a damaged missile. And that, in turn, proved that the beach was indeed the target. Mind that only a small fraction of the payload struck it, imagine what five full missiles would have done in a summer city full of people in the streets and open squares. It was definitely the answer to Putin's peace talks proposal.
can you elaborate on the sound bit?
There is no sound of AA working on any video, and the one from beach cafe is even more clear. Just the munitions deploying, then bursting. In the beach overview you can see this circle of them falling in the water. It also is telling. A damaged cluster munitions missile would spill them in a random fashion over a huge territory. Instead, here the payload was delivered in full, albeit not to the target proper. Maybe AA indeed glanced a hit to the rudders, hence the deviation, but it must have been an incredibly light hit for the missile that moves at tremendous speed to keep itself in one piece. Maybe they changed the munitions for something cheaper and locally available, but aerodynamics got off. All in all in the video we see what is a proper deployment of its cargo, supported by absence of AA explosions before and very short time between sound of the cluster popping and the payload striking ground or water.
But the "strike" is still a miss, isn't it? Otherwise it would have hit the beach proper, and casualties would have been much higher. You think its EW?
Near miss, but what factor should we hold accountable for it is debatable. AA glancing hit way before? Radioelectronic interference? Guidance error? Coordinates error? Payload mismatch or some latch breaking, resulting in them tilting to a side and throwing balance off? Who knows. We should be thankful that of five cluster missiles aimed at a city only a fraction of one’s load reached its destination. One can imagine with terror what a full strike would have wrought.
Or like simplicus said: a deliberate off-target attack to send a warning?
> 4) No matter how many casualties Ru inflicts on the battlefield; unlimited money and an open western border means that Ukr will always, always, always be able to reconstitute.
So, why then is the UkroNazi army so depleted and aren't they able to reconstitute it with outsiders? Whatever mercenaries did come are either killed or have (started to) run back to where they came from.
> interdicting weapons supplies (literally what Israel is doing in Syria/Lebanon and what the US would do anywhere in the world)
And which has failed miserably. If ZioNazistan would have been successful with that Hezbollah would not have the 150,000+ missiles and 1,000,000 drones and other weapons.
As for the U.S., NK has been under similar sanctions for decades. The result: NK now has (hypersonic?) ballistic missiles that can reach the U.S.
Human stupidity is endless. After 2 years since the SMO started you still believe that NATO is capable to defeat Russia or at least wage a large war against peer enemy? Are you blind? Absolutely everything they did against Russia failed and turned against them. Destroy the Russian economy with sanctions? Failed. The Russian economy is growing faster than ever. Isolate Russia? Failed. The whole world, with the exception of the West, is now on Russia’s side. Stage a coup and regime change in Russia? Failed. Putin's support and popularity are stronger than ever. Weaken the Russian army? Failed. The Russian army has become larger and stronger than at the beginning of the SMO. The Great Ukrainian Counter-Offensive and the Capture of Crimea? Failed. The entire military strategy and tactics of NATO turned out to be absolutely useless in a real war. Nobody is afraid of NATO anymore and the myth of military and technological superiority is completely dispelled. US carrier strike group humiliated by poor desert people in sandals and leaving Red Sea in fear. Absolutely everything failed. Where is at least a single fact indicating that if NATO will provoke direct confrontation, they will be able to do anything successful?
As a rule, anyone who resorts to ad hominem remarks instead of a normal discussion and exchange of arguments and ideas gets an automatic block from me. Your "human stupidity" remark qualifies. Plenty of commentators were able to disagree with what I said in a normal way - but not you. You're not the first, so, there's that.
As a piece of unsolicited advice, don't say something online that you wouldn't also say irl to someone to their face. I have no time for keyboard warriors and internet assholes.
Goodbye
Go to Russia and I will say it right in your face.
You don't live in Russia.
Loser.
Well, "Morfei" is "Morpheus" in Russian and transliterated into English characters.
The internet tough guy argument is still stupid, whether or not it comes from a Russian.
He would have said "come to Russia"
And I agree about the tough guy crap. I hate it, and it really spoils the exchanges.
My disagreement is on the availability of human beings to fight the war on the UkR side; I believe both the quantity and quality of the UKR soldiers is degrading over time, they are now losing 2000+ per day, they can’t backfill that.
1). Defacto NATO. Incompetent and ineffectual. Agreed.
2). The drones and missiles are pinpricks. They are ignored, see #1.
3). Sanctions are only effective if everyone is using the same banking system. Russia’s GDP has outpaced the entire west.
4). Reconstitute…maybe but by no means with ukrainians. They are running out of men to make more ukrainians.
5). Agreed.
6). No fly zones where, like in Russia, Syria, etc…,Interdicting weapons supplies where, like in ukraine, because they can’t? Pretty sure Russia just floated three warships through the Caribbean and less than one hundred miles away from Miami. Soon enough western drones will not be able to fly over the Black Sea due to Russia’s superior EW capabilities that are getting better everyday with practice.
7). The doomsday clock is at 90 seconds to midnight, so yes nuclear war is on the horizon. Russia’s constitution prohibits them from using nukes in a first strike scenario, only for defense. It will be the west who provokes a retaliatory strike. Limited tactical at first. The wonder weapon F16 (HA) is capable of carrying nuclear weapons. It is considered a first strike aircraft. Why do you think the west is adamant about sending them to ukraine, it is to provoke a nuclear response by sending first strike aircraft to support a non-nato proxy.
The omen that Zelensky visits Ukrainian cities before they fall does not work in the case of Kupyansk. He was in Kupyansk in November 2023 and February 2024.
So you found one exception to the rule and you think that you have "debunked it" 🤦🏼♂️🤡
See, he jinxed it twice, now Kupyansk must fall so spectacularly that whole sections of the front will collapse. It might take more time to channel though.
Hmmm, North Korea enters the war...perhaps it wants to get some of the credit for finishing off Zelensky's forces...that would certainly enhance its stature with Russian allies and even BRICS...
Or they'd want to get some experience in a (relatively safe) hot war before engaging SK?
And revenge, don't forget revenge. Every North Korean will have a family member that was murdered by US scum.
Very likely....
Wonder what Austin called Belousov for...
May be the Russian plane went to US to get more people back. I read US has closed down several Russian visa centres recently.
The signs from West are so confusing. Perhaps their escalatory/provocative actions and rhetoric reflect their wish which does not match with present capabilities. I don't think they've enough ammunition for ground attacks after the so-called decapitation strike. And I don't think these parasites are ideological/determined enough to commit suicide in pursuit of their not so grand strategy.
I love the phrase "illegal war" from the sanctimonious US Empire. What massive cope for a military who knows they'd get their shit kicked in.
That caught me too... like Iraq was a fine example of what Archie Bunker would call "a decent war".
The rumored DPRK troops are combat engineers. One of their tasks is the erecting of river crossings under fire. I can think of several areas on the front where such skills might be practiced. Or perhaps they're specialized demining sappers. The point is they don't need to be combat assault forces and IMO don't sound like it. Otherwise, the Ukies continue to back peddle most everywhere.
It seems likely that general experience 'combined arms' of all aspects of war would be of great use to the troops of both NK and RF
not to forget the very useful 'construction workers'
I hope the NK troops butcher whoever is stupid enough to actually fight for NATO.
Listen to the mouth on that Ukrainian medic Olena Malok. I hope she doesn't suck cock with that same mouth !
More than likely a scissor sister.
Can't we in the west show some respect and delay WW3 for another few weeks ? I don't know about anyone else but it's Gay Pride Month in Canada. WW3 would be a huge distraction.
I'm sure that's the plan. It's just a matter of making an appointment in the busy schedule of "National" days. Weekend might be best. Saturday's no good, that's Sabbat. Probably Sunday morning would be best, only churchgoers will be inconvenienced.
Classic 😂
You mean that they would not like to go out with a bang?
Get out
ok conscription it is ....that will learn them
" Pride goeth before destruction..." Proverbs 16:18-20 KJV
I thought you were joking or made that up: "18 Pride goes before destruction,
a haughty spirit before a fall.
19 Better to be lowly in spirit along with the oppressed
than to share plunder with the proud.
I wonder if I'd get busted for putting this on my front lawn during Pride month ?
Russians look to be utilizing the death by a thousand cuts modus operandi. The NK angle is just another calculated slashing riposte against NOTO's persistent offenses.