We start with major acknowledgments by Ukraine that Russia has captured important positions in Avdeevka, particularly around the Slag Heap and Stepove-railway area.
Go do yourself a favor and see how many times they've done the same trick with North Korea, and how many times Kim Jong-Un has been ill or his uncle "murdered by dogs" or his cousin "executed by a firing squad using machine guns" and all the other malarkey they put out. It costs nothing to invent a rumor.
Seriously hope Simplicius will not swallow the bait and start discussing deliberately placed rumors. But, think a second about psychologic operations like an art, like cooking, or creating a music hit. Psychop produces noise that covers a real thing, it is a junk food for the mind, a music for elevators...
What is the real thing?
Putin speaks the truth, on many subjects. When people busy themselves with rumours about Putin health they have an easy pathway to skip listening, understanding what Putin is saying.
About war with Ukraine, about NATO enlargement, about EU, about Nordstream, about Palestine, Israel, about China, BRICS....
I do not mind he is getting cloned as long as the ideology stays the same. you know, Rockefeller got his heart replaced several times, refusing to go before seeing the world in flame. So, why don't we cloned Putin for the sake of mankind on this planet eih?
yeah that's the 10th times of heart attack this year.... remember while his health also rapidly declining over the year... yet, the man refuse to enter the grave. How come he did this..!
Yes, it happened an hour before he conducted a lengthy meeting with a delegation from Brazil because, you know, that's how Putin rolls. He gets cancer and other terminal illnesses or falls down a flight of stairs about every three months.
Don't pull the victim card, it's pathetic. If you "don't want a lot of replies" then don't comment stupid stuff in the fist place. You comment stupid stuff, you deserve to be made fun of. If you read a baseless "rumour" in some random website and then come here asking if it's true before trying to check any other sources, then it really shows where your IQ sits.
Putin just said that West US NATO cannot fight anyone serious anymore, not China, not India, not Russia, not Muslims, not Arabs. If they are united. The only way for US to fight and win wars is through divide and rule. It is urgent to restart conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims, between Saudis and Iran. Otherwise US would have to fight united Arab world, and would lose the fight.
Second, for a moment, but most important war to start is between India and China. War between India and China is the only way US can keep its position of global rule maker. No other way exists.
Rumors about Putin always mean that US needs to stop global public from listening to Putin.
The 114th’s emblem, (as with Russia’s Coat of Arms) highlights Saint George, of the Roman Praetorian Guard who would not renounce his Christian Faith and was beheaded in 303AD. In honor of these warrior’s and in memory of St George:
“This day is called the Feast of Crispian”. (October 25).
Saints Crispin and Crispinian are the Christian patron saints of cobblers, curriers, tanners, and leather workers. They were beheaded during the reign of Diocletian; the date of their execution is given as 25 October 285 or 286.
Legend
Born to a noble Roman family in the 3rd century AD, Crispin and Crispinian fled persecution for their faith, ending up at Soissons, where they preached Christianity to the Gauls while making shoes by night. It is stated that they were twin brothers.[1]
They earned enough by their trade to support themselves and also to aid the poor. Their success attracted the ire of Rictus Varus, governor of Belgic Gaul,[2] who had them tortured and thrown into the river with millstones around their necks. Though they survived, they were beheaded by the emperor.
The St. Crispin’s Day speech from Henry V
William Shakespeare
King Henry V: What’s he that wishes so? My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin: If we are mark’d to die, we are enow To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater share of honour. God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more. By Jove, I am not covetous for gold, Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost; It yearns me not if men my garments wear; Such outward things dwell not in my desires: But if it be a sin to covet honour, I am the most offending soul alive. No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England: God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour As one man more, methinks, would share from me For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more! Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart; his passport shall be made And crowns for convoy put into his purse: When would not die in that man’s company That fears his fellowship to die with us. This day is called the feast of Crispian: He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named, And rouse him at the name of Crispian. He that shall live this day, and see old age, Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian:’ Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars. And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.’ Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he’ll remember with advantages What feats he did that day: then shall our names. Familiar in his mouth as household words Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester, Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d. This story shall the good man teach his son; And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remember’d; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition: And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.
Looks like Avdeevka may well turn into a resounding Russian success. But will take time in any case
How do you square the dissonance out there? UK/US pols and media continue to say/believe that Russia is being degraded and destroyed, Ukraine is making progress, etc. Why? I mean, if they paint Russia as this powerful big bad scary evil force, wouldn't that "steel" people more? McConnel saying that Ukraine is destroying Putin's army and Graham calling it a great investment - do you think they are lying, or they are getting bad intel? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I have seen up close and personal one too many times how large corporate structures can get things totally, diametrically wrong, and leadership is too blinded to properly Red Team consensus that reaches them
Second, on Syria - why do they never respond or react to Israeli air strikes? They have advanced russian SAM systems which could easily impose costs on the IAF (assuming they use them properly). Its been 20 years or so that the Israelis bomb Syria with impunity, without so much as a peep from Damascus. Is the IAF that good, are the Syrians that bad, or what?
Graham will never tell the truth. McConnell is the most political animal in the Senate. Take whatever they say with a grain of salt, you won't hear enlightenment from either. They'll just move on from lying and being wrong to more lies and more wrongheaded policies.
Assad being weak does not explain Israel bombing Syria with impunity. Russia is there allegedly in support of Syrian interests. Those optics look bad, i.e. terrible, if Israel can bomb at will without a Russian response, or at least providing Syria with S-300 or S-400 air defense systems and other means to defend itself. A few Israeli planes shut down would quickly bring a hold to those airstrikes who are only continuing because there is no price to pay. To say that this does not send a signal of confidence to other potential Russian allies in the region is an understatement. Other than that, it makes Russia look weak where it should look strong. Compare this with the US who not only makes it clear they are willing to fight an all out war for their ally Israel, but are now sending air defense systems to Saudi Arabia as well. Putin can't possibly believe that the US support for Ukraine is not supported by Israels as well when the most of the US neocons screaming for Russian blood are Jew.
Putin is there at Assad's invitation. Beyond that, let your enemies make mistakes before committing yourself. Appearing strong by giving the Israelis a bloody nose won't compare to destroying the Israeli state when they overextend, as you know they will. It's unfolding before your eyes now.
You don't destroy a nuclear armed state, if by destroy you mean killing everyone and destroying everything, without eliciting a final all-out nuclear spasm in its death throes.
You best deal with a nuclear armed state by costing them enough pain that they can't continue their aggression. Keep fighting for longer than they can afford to and eventually their economy will collapse because too many men are in the military service and not in the productive sectors, and also eventually they will run out of munitions and fuel and food if they are not being resupplied. So in the case of Israel as long as they are supplied by the US they will be able to continue. Once that stops they will have to pull back and negotiate an agreement with their neighbors.
Of course if the Arab world won't stop until every Jew in Israel is gone, or if the political and/or military in Israel decides they will not accept a loss of this sort and it is time to unleash the nuclear option, then the nukes fly and whomever is left picks up the pieces
Sun Tzu was not talking about looking weak after the shooting has started, but before. With the Israelis doing airstrikes on a Russian protectorate the shooting has started and is a time when you don't want to look weak.
I think there are more complicated considerations at play re: why Russia doesn't allow its AD to be used by Syria against IDF strikes. I don't know what they are, but the geopolitical considerations of everything going on today (and especially with the SMO) are massive and deep.
Your take on western Jewish neocons and Israel misses what's most important: they're not the same, and they're not particularly allied. The Jewish neocons are exclusively European Jews (Ashkenazi). Israel is a mix of Ashkenazi (mostly Reform from a religious perspective, and strongest in Tel Aviv) and Orthodox (who are almost entirely Mithrazi or Arabic Jews, and Sephardic or Spanish/North African Jews, and a very few Ashkenazi). Netanyahu is partly so successful because he straddles that divide - he comes from a mixed Reform Ashkenazi / Orthodox Mithrazi marriage. The hilarity of European Jew falls in love with Orthodox Mithrazi and all the shenanigans that ensue must be the most popular trope on Israeli TV for the past decade, mirroring wokeness in western TV.
Orthodox have large families, are entitled to lots of government benefits, and are exempt from military service. Ashkenazis (almost all of them) have 1.2 kids per family or something, pay for the Orthodox's entitlements, are subject to military duty and conscription, and resent the hell out of the arrangement. And the tipping point was just reached in the past few years - the Orthodox now clearly have the upper hand in terms of the Israeli electorate and numbers.
Thus, Ersatz Ersatz Israel (which Zelensky has mentioned repeatedly) - creating a new Jewish homeland in the historical Pale, the original homeland of most European Jews in western Ukraine. That's one reason why analysis of what it'll take to push Zelensky to peace negotiation is a fool's errand: who said the goal was to win the war against Russia? In all likelihood, the goal was to rid the land of pesky Ukrainians, which is at the 70% or 80% mark of success (since a lot of those remaining are elderly people who will die soon anyway, or disabled who can do little to resist).
The true war is yet to come - between the Ashkenazi settlers and their partners-of-convenience in the Ukrainian nationalist battalions like Right Sektor and Azov. The U.S. told the neo-Nazis funding would end if the Ashkenazi running Ukraine were removed in a coup; the OUN had too much power for Zelensky not to ally with them. Eventually the marriage must dissolve, and it will be bitter.
I agree with much of what you wrote, but............ "The Jewish neocons are exclusively European Jews".......... is wrong. The Kagan's and Nuland's are former Russian Jews along with many others who hate Russia.
They are no longer alone, as the Arab world coalesces. Now that Russia is allowing Iran to use its airbase in Syria, I expect everything is changed. If Israel strikes that base, Russia will be in, no?
Right now, it looks to me like Hezbollah is teasing things out. There is a plan being built behind all this. I don't think they're waiting for any red lines to be crossed...that happened with the hospital, reinforced with the Greek Orthodox church. Just probably moving pieces into place & waiting for the right moment.
Russia and China can get a meeting with anyone, anywhere, anytime. The US and EU have managed to isolate ourselves internationally. This makes the US dangerous. The Potato-in-Chief is not the problem. He is a marionette. Will Obama order HIS White House staff to not start WW3?
Even the politicians don't believe Ukraine has a chance anymore, and certainly no members of the public with the slightest discernment..That's why Biden's proposal has aroused such a negative reaction outside of Congress...
Biden asks; Senate under Dem control might pass his request. House won’t, they negotiate something out in ‘conference committee’ that turns into the final bill.
Congress can always grant funding to the Ukraine now to give out later. A tease and a hedge.
Most of the Ukie funding will be for future weapons orders to replace current obsolete weapons draw downs. Israel will get all the cash and gear we can spare as quick as it can be shipped. "Give until it hurts, and then give some more."
I don't think NATO's Military Dependency of Ukraine is going to hold past February unless something drastic occurs. It's lines are collapsing and the collapses are wide and rapid.
"How did you go bankrupt?"
"It started slowly and then all of a sudden".
I do believe the elected congressional blood worshippers are aware of this. An August estimate placed the Bandera army to have used all of it's reserve artillery shells by February at the earliest and April at the latest. Israel is now getting those shells. Didn't take 2 weeks for the shortage to make itself felt.
I don't think its about Ukraine having a chance or not. I think they are stuck. In a sense Biden asking for $60bn is rather clever - if it passes he can say he did all he could, and if it fails he can pass blame for failure onto congress.
Even if, lets say we believe that within the WH they believe that the war can't be won, there is no mechanism for a climbdown, or de-escalation. Biden has repeatedly painted himself into rhetorical traps. Sounding tough and maximalist on TV is cool for about 10s until you realize you have now limited your options.
Also, by forcing Ukraine into the mess of the last 18 months, they have created the Russia that they need to fear: one which there is no more western economic leverage, no diaspora with billions invested in London and NY, a modernized, motivated and experienced military, industrially resurgent, and now in bed with China. Oh and one which has no choice but to destroy the regime in Kiev.
I often wonder if Zelensky realizes he has been used, and just how willing a participant he has been.
The unforced errors go back beyond Biden. The weapons systems pointed at the US now were created in response to US withdrawal from the ABM treaty and other high-handed actions. So, those ABMs that won't work against the hypersonic weapons...were they worth it?
Besides which, there were innumerable moments when getting in bed with Moscow would have been much wiser than making them into an enemy. Hubris is the only explanation.
There are many explanations beyond hubris. Former Soviet Jews and their visceral hatred of Russia now calling the shots in Washington for one. The support of their ethnic tribe controlling the western media is another. All this made possible by the fact that it is next to impossible to get elected or reelected in the US unless you have the support of the same people and their cousins. Let's not ignore the elephant in the room.
Unwise is unwise whatever you think of Russia. Kissinger was no idiot and knew better, irrespective of his ethnicity. His opinion on the Ukraine is pretty instructive here; no one is listening of course, but he keeps saying 'negotiation'. So I still call it hubris, regardless of the animus against Russia.
Yes. The USA seems to increasingly overestimate their abilities, and not just in foreign policy. Of course, they never get called on it, though that may be changing, just put the blame on others.
The capo Zelenski has always been a willing participant in the crimes against his nation. As long as the cash was rolling in to continue the grift why wouldn't he allow himself to be abused like a $2 whore? He ain't dying.
I have been thinking lately that if the capo Zelenski decides to run to Russia through a third country for safety that Putin will take him.
I occasionally check in on what is posted on jootoob and so many Yanks think that Ukraine is kicking the Russian Federations arse.
Same on Shitchute. A good 40% odd of commentators have no knowledge of history, don't even know a thing called Glasnost occurred and think that Russia is communist!
Looking at these comments from shitheads in communist Yankeeland always makes me laugh.
Americans don't know jack shit about much outside their borders. It's a problem but not one I can figure out how to solve. They get propagandized to believe the Ukes are winning so as to prevent the inevitable complaints about sending $$$ there when we have better uses for it here. They have no idea about the neocon and Israeli scams. Seems like everyone we support nowadays behaves like a Nazi.
Tried telling someone about the Barbarossa decree from 1941 that was a war crime in and of itself and several were convicted at Nuremberg of distributing it. One of its features is authorizing 'collective punishment' in the SU. Point out that this is what is going on in Gaza. Blank stares of course.
I would differ and say a lot know, very few feel willing to speak. It honestly appears to me there is more freedom of expression in Russia than there is here, and it pains me to say that.
I'm seriously thinking of moving there. If it wasnt for my elderly parents that I need to occasionally look after we'd move. Visited 3x and it reminds me of America I grew up in 1970s. No homeless, clean etc. I don't know much about the politics there other than Putin's speeches I've read he sounds more reasonable than any US politician who scare me right or left.
I'm like 5th generation American but my great great gf came from Russia in 1800s so thats why we visited in the first place. Maybe Putin will let me come "home" :P
Aye....some do understand the reality of these situations, but are in very much a minority. It's painful to see the zombies stumbling around glued to their phones while the world is burning.
Herein lies the problem HBI. Most Americans could not tell you where Ukraine or most Eastern countries are located if you gave them a map as 70% of the population live where they are born. Our education system is just a joke now where unions control the education of your child unless you can afford a private school. Just yesterday Oregon schools will no longer hold students accountable for correct answers on problems as they think it discriminates against the dumb shits of the world. So 2 + 2 can equal 5. Critical thinking is being eliminated at all levels. Most people I know run on emotions and think I am a crazy pinko for pointing out how wrong our media is and how they are lying to them.
I served in the armed forces during Vietnam and Middle East and lived in Europe for 5 years. I told my family to just look at as map of the conflict and tell me who is winning. LOL they pointed out that the new red is who is winning an d I replied that is new Russian territory and they called me stupid as Ukraine is winning. I just gave up lol and told them to go read the dam map!!!
The realization that the government and its allies in the media have been lying to them all along comes late to people - I didn't believe it at first, and I had a friend who was telling me for years to stop supporting political causes because they were all bullshit. A little older and more cynical he was.
I laughed a little when you said 'pinko' because only people old enough to remember Archie Bunker probably have any conception of what that means anymore :-)
I'm not certain there were that many to start with, with decent critical thinking skills. The concept of an educated public is long gone, I agree. I'm glad you're out there thinking, Gordon, and I can only hope your familiy wises up eventually. Mine may never...and I fear the stupid ends us up in a nuclear exchange which none of us can do much about.
I stopped believing anything government says because of Iraq and BS patriot act and other security state measures passed in name of safety much of which had nothing to do with safety. I suppose I was in my early 30s when total distrust came about but it only took me one war. Thing is some never have that moment. My dad was lied into Vietnam lied to about every war since and still want to go after chinese commies and Muslims or whomever else that Fox tells him are bad. He's also got the vax Hannity and them told him to take. Then you get the guys who believe nothing the "liberal MSM" FAKE NEWS says unless it comes to war. Think most are doomed to fall in line next time puppet masters start another big war despite being fooled over and over again.
you have to see yourself, the Amerikan mentality, they literally still seeing Russian forces as the forces back to 2000, just watch... either the man lacked information or simply refuse to accept reality... crazy.
From Forgotten Weapons Channel: Why Are the Russians So Bad? War Stories from Ukraine with Neil Vermillion.
Back by popular demand, we have Neil Vermillion again today. We're talking about his experiences while volunteering as a trainer for troops in Ukraine. We're going to discuss why the Russians underperformed so badly, what the Ukrainians are doing well to adapt and improve, and perhaps why he has a somewhat scorched Wagner patch on his wall...
I think you are giving the US civilians more credit for visualizing Russia and its capabilities than they deserve. The propaganda they get is precisely what you are talking about. It is largely ignored. Most don't know about Russia, didn't know in the 70s and 80s and really don't know now.
I doubt they are even thinking that hard. It's someplace where people talk funny. Understanding communism is reserved for emigres with a chip on their shoulder, and even those grow few.
Agree I read somewhere that the problem with average Amerikan is that they are not lacking of empathy or sympathy, they are lacking of logic and common sense. Yeah make sense now.
Listen, there are stupid people everywhere. With that said, the environment of censorship and repression in the US is pretty fierce. People don't understand just how authoritarian their state has become in a conscious fashion, but their lack of interest in things that don't toe the government line is pretty rampant.
Just one of the more open censorship cases, but there's lots more where that came from. It really started in 2001. The 2nd Bush admin was interested in censorship even before 9/11 happened.
Yeah, Ernesto, I know that Syria (the nation) doesn't have S400. Maybe my pondering wasn't as clear as it needed to be. I meant why doesn't Russia give Syria the keys to the S400s Russia has there.
It must be frustrating for the SAA to see ashkeNAZI missiles on a weekly basis and then looking over at Russia's S400s doing fuck all.
As far as i remember is that idf-airforce is using rockets from south libanon / maybe north israel airspace to destroy targets in Syria. Not shure if was done in the recent airport attacks as well.
S300 or S400 to shoot down rockets, is overkill and Russia wont do such thing if even possible.
And shooting down isr. jets within Israel South Lebanese airspace has its own implications.
Syria will have to live with the situation for some time still, i guess. All flight movement in Isr. is transparent for Ru/Syr. so it can be assumed that at least loss of personal can be kept at bay.
Technology advances, and the rules must change accordingly. When an enemy aircraft had to come within your borders to drop bombs, everything was simple. You do all you can to shoot down the bombers. Today, the Israelis can strike targets in Syria by firing missiles from aircraft within Israeli air space. Should that make any difference? I think not. The missiles and the aircraft are part of one weapon system, and the whole system should be a legitimate target. And if burning F16s or F15s fall on Israeli towns, tough. What goes around comes around.
From what I know, Russia and Israel have an understanding about what they can/cannot do in Syria. Similarly between Russia and US. And Syria is aware and agrees. Pretty cyclical in a way, but Russia needs to maintain a balance. But I hope that has changed since SMO started.
"ZioNazistan has destroyed the Aleppo and Damascus airports"
No, it temporarily damaged them, and only to some degree. It's very difficult to 'destroy' an airport, even almost impossible without using nukes. Those couple of Israeli missiles that make it past the air defences don't come close to what is needed.
Seems to me that the war has badly misfired for the NATO "team". A plausible outcome might have been regime change in Russia, its break up and subsequent looting and control. At the very least they might have expected Russia to be damaged diplomatically, militarily and economically. Looks to me like the complete opposite is happening. Russia miscalculated early on to some extent, but is now much stronger than before in all these areas. In particular its military is now experienced, bigger and re-armed - backed by a revitatlised MIC. Its reputation has grown amongst those who do not get their world view from western media and dare I say it western intelligence agencies.
I think you're right; the gameplan was for shock&awe, the Russian elite to panic and toss Putin out, and immediately seek a negotiation. When that didn't happen it became a new plan, new strategy. But the horizon is constantly measured in very short terms i.e. the counteroffensive for example.
I know a few people who work in the sort of white glove EU elite institutes. I talk to them about this. The brainwashing is unbelievably strong, I mean I even heard someone say "Well you know Russia never had a proper Enlightenment so what do you expect". I had a visitor from England recently tell me she visited a place without Russian sanctions and "recoiled" when she heard Russians speaking at a cafe.
Even the basic logic that "cancelling" Russia and Russians from world culture/trade/sport/etc has backfired by uniting Russia and Russians also falls on deaf ears.
There is a momentum to things that once established can't really be easily reversed.
Brainwashing... I spoke to a budding Eurocrat a month ago. Your comment is right. There is an establishment view and it does not pay to challenge that view. Easier to believe that what you are being officially told is actually truthful.
It's almost entirely because of horrifically bad intel. Trust me, I get emails all the time from my own father with links to ludicrous MSM articles that all say the same thing: Russia is doing stupid and dopey bad stuff while heroic Ukrainians are winning epic battles in their noble defense of freedom and democracy.
You can see this for yourself by going to Google and trying to find a single mention of a Ukrainian AD missile accidentally hitting a residential building (in Ukrainian-controlled territory) - it's nearly impossible. Yet it's happened close to 100 times since the war started.
The Israelis either shoot out of range of Assad's AD or they shoot from protected areas like behind civilian air traffic. Also, until he has his country fully under control, he has little desire to expand his problems by inviting Israel to the party. But this situation won't last forever. Assad's army is tough as nails now after all these years fighting the West's ISIS and other Western-paid terrorists. They will yet have their day at the feast.
I assume things are being held back because there is a lot of negotiating going on. The US doesn't want an Israeli incursion into Gaza, and neither does the EU. The UK talking heads are surprised at the resistance to their dribble. I think even Bibi has his doubts, or he would have done it already. The chessboard has changed and many of our pieces are in trouble. It would really be a good time for brinkmanship, for someone to decide to go for long term PEACE DIPLOMACY. This "investment" as they call it is NOT paying off for me. We don't have enough homeless shelters and now we need fallout shelters??? America just isn't ready for this.
The problem for Israel and its backers is that there is zero desire for peace by the Palestinians. They and the collective Arab world are demographically winning and the Palestinians know it. The American Empire is collapsing. Any hope Israel had is collapsing with it. I believe it will end in a nuclear exchange in Israel’s death throws. If Israel had committed genocide of the Palestinians in the 1950’s Israel might have survived but they didn’t and now the tides of demographics are slowly drowning them.
So who has escalation dominance and who would lose, like Europe and the US all for a six million people state of UK intelligence? IT IS REALLY STUPID TO PROMOTE THE IDEA THAT COLONIAL POWERS GENOCIDED AND ENSLAVED THE THIRD WORLD AND THEN TO HAVE ISRAEL PROVE IT. This isn't on the globalist schedule. Bibi is gone. He no longer serves the collective globalist agenda and will be discarded along with Biden. The whole earth exists to support human existence and you think genocide of Palestinians in 1950s would have solved the problem? I'm sure that was a grammatical error. It starts slow then everything changes - hopefully, positively.
I actually think DaveinCC has a point. There is a certain point where you kill enough people/take their women that you can eliminate revanchism. Look back on history and you'll see it all over the place, dead peoples that have no more recent champions. They're all gone.
As long as there are millions of suckers ... sorry, "pro-democracy freedom fighters" around the world willing to fight and die as cannon fodder for the American Empire, the USA will view their deaths as a great investment to weaken a geopolitical opponent.
Put another way, the only thing that can deter America and its criminal wars is one thing: dead Americans.
Dead Ukrainians, dead Afghanis, dead Iraqis, dead Palestinians, or dead fill-in-the-blank non-American people do not "move the needle" to compel the USA to change its malign behavior.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the United Sociopaths of America in all its glory.
This is the lesson that the United States learned from Iraq - nation-building is expensive and quickly becomes politically unpopular.
The lesson that the United States learned from Libya is that nation-destroying is relatively cheap and has little political fallout in the United States itself.
Why does the reverse logic not work? Israel bombs away not caring for any reprisal from Russia, Iran, hezbollah, IS, Syria, Lebanon, whoever. They don't fear the Syrians. But they don't take direct action against Iran. Maybe the range is the issue...
It's also known as boiling the frog alive technique, similar to the USA State Departments policy of thin slicing demands. Keep up an exhausting pressure, but never exceed a threshold that will inspire a knock down dragout fight that might be lost. All that USA money flowing into Israel is the real threat to Israel society, it corrupts and rots the system. Pressure just helps the rot go faster by creating demand for more spending.
I think that the Syrians have been hampered by Russian reluctance to tip their hand, when it comes to using their more advanced weapons. Perhaps that period is coming to an end.
I've heard that explanation before and never bought into it. Like, what's the point of having the defense system if you won't protect even basic civilian infrastructure like an airport? Is it going to take an Israeli 'miss' that hits the terminal and kills hundreds for them to defend their territory?
I've heard in reports of Vanessa Beeley that Syria uses its S300 selectively and keeps them cold to not get detected as Israel can hit those. Something like that. The whole mess with different parties having their own limits and understandings in their operation inside Syria sounds really frustrating to me and I've nothing to do with Syria.
"McConnel saying that Ukraine is destroying Putin's army and Graham calling it a great investment - do you think they are lying, or they are getting bad intel? "
"Dec 2001: “Thanks to our military and our allies and the brave fighters of Afghanistan, the Taliban regime is coming to an end.” – George W. Bush"
"Sep 2012: We've blunted the Taliban's momentum in Afghanistan, and in 2014, our longest war will be over. - Barack Obama"
Do you think they were lying, or they were getting bad intel? Dude, they are politicians that mean that inspirational liar is literally they job.
It's the eternal doublethink of US deep state propaganda.
Russians are incompetent buffoons, and they're only just the 2nd best army even in Ukraine, because their men are just so unmotivated and untrained, they just surrender and let Ukrainian farmers steal their tanks with tractors and have already suffered over a million of lost soldiers, they are running out of ammo, missiles, microchips (but they can spare missiles to intentionally target strategically irrelevant civilian buildings) but they are so dangerous that we have to send everything we can for Ukraine to be able to stop them, and as long as it takes blah blah blah.
It's funny how the NAFO crowd forgot the first rule of propaganda: you should always dehumanise your enemy by portraying them as merciless, brutal, capable of anything, and stay honest about their capabilities, instead of downplaying their capsbilities and mocking them, because there's no real way to disprove the former, but if you lie about the latter it's very easy to get found out.
The creation of the fantasy war is one of the more fascinating aspects of this conflict (alongside the re-emergence of WWI tactics with modern tech). Many otherwise intelligent persons have been completely taken in by it, either because they lack the critical thinking skills to notice the holes & contradictions, or because they willingly suspend disbelief.
It's not hard to figure out NATO's motive, at least -- they need to keep the people on board with a distant proxy war in times of economic trouble, which would normally be a very unpopular policy. I think NATO was hoping their two-pronged strategy would work (military aid to the front, sanctions to undercut them), but Putin's Russia is simply too strong; then, not knowing what to do, they kept doubling down.
To the propagandist's credit, they provide their sources, which are always either Ukrainian government officials, or NGO's funded by the State dept, and then the rest of the media copies from Reuters/AP. Thus, it's not hard to figure out how the media's fantasy war happened.
I am proud to be Russian, as this is why I believe, thanks to Russia, the world stands a chance of survival for another year, while bidendiaper hits the golf clubs course, with his head, or with Blinkens eyeballs...
I wish there will be peace in the world. But that would be hard for scAmerica's neosxum neofreak warmongrels, bark bark growl.
As a life long American I can speak for quite a few when I note it's a sad reality which keeps us from being friends. There is a lot that can be said but at this point I can only say many of us wish it wasn't the case.
I like Stephen Fry's question when debating with a demented Evangelist; If your God is so merciful what about children with cancer? What the fuck is that all about? And why did he create insects that lay eggs in people's eyes and then hatch and eat their brains from within?
Once humans realized how small they are in the grand scheme of the universe, they always attmept to accumulate power, wealth and create various gods just to remain sane.
And getting smaller all the time. A recent survey of what we have discovered from the search for exoplanets came up with a *minimum* estimate of the number of planets that might support life, just in our galaxy, as over 300,000,000. Ponder that a bit.
From my perspective, as a Christian I feel sorry for many of the people who claim to be Christian. I suspect they will eventually be surprised, but I'm nobody's judge, I have enough to do without trying to run other people's lives.
It strikes me as a mistake to judge God through the actions/words of people. I've never understood why people want to bring Him down to our level. People sure are odd!
Are you aware that the good ol' USA has slaughtered between 20M and 30M people, mostly civilians since WW2? 2M alone in Laos where they dropped more tons of bombs than was used in WW2. They just didn't like the new gov't there, kept the bombing secret.
Russia offered friendship and business with the west. They asked for a "Quebec" solution to the Eastern Ukraine regions and neutrality like the Austrian solution. Western global capitalism demanded a comprador Quisling courtiers government in Russia, supporting the western rape of country as it was under the drunken criminal Yeltsin. Russia is fighting for the people of the world against the globalist financial hegemonic exploitation and plunder of the old colonialism empires, defeated in battle but screwed by their compradors and the financial hegemony of the ruling classes of the west. Good luck, the working classes of world need you more than ever.
I have empathy for the female medic, but I think it's criminal to allow someone to get in range of enemy fire with hair like that. Marks her as a target at a long distance.
In the field if my platoon didn't want to shave, cut their hair, wear regular uniform I had no problem, as long as minimum requirements were met at a base.
The guys being treated by her when remote fire is put on her location might not be so cheerful. It's why medics wear camouflage, (edit: According to the Geneva Convention, "knowingly" firing at a medic wearing clear insignia is a war crime. Vice versa, the convention also states that no medic should carry a weapon, or be seen engaged in combat. That gun makes her a legitimate target and any wounded she might be treating legitimate collateral damage, which is also why wounded don't carry weapons into an aid station, they make the medic a legitimate target in that case).
The weapon and lack of an armband make me doubt her understanding of the Geneva Conventions. Which is shitty for her since the Russians will abide by them if their opponents do, and she ain't.
It also occurred to me that a certain retired officer I know would give her a ration of shit for that hair mainly because she would be attracting fire towards HIS unit. Which is a great point. Sure, she's endangering herself, but if the fire is heading in my direction, she's endangering me also.
Or they just don't like how they look, like most girls that age. I have daughters and a lot of sisters. Maybe i'm going soft in my old age. Two sisters that went Army, one was KIA and a niece who was a Marine.
Andriy Biletsky is a true Nazi, he repeats that old racist lie of Erich von Manstein that the Soviets/Russians overwhelmed the Wehrmacht/AFU with huge hordes of "very bad human material", the sort of lie that goes down well with the rednecks and bluebloods that fill the US military academies . The Nazis and allies both old and new outnumbered both the Soviets and Russians up to 2 to 1 for the first years of the respective wars. Now the numbers tell in the opposite direction, but no fear, Biletsky will probably get a post war job just like Manstein or the scum Gehlen, writing crap that appeals to his paymasters biases and doing little nasties in-between buggering underage boys and girls.
Thanks Simplicius for this update. Looks like we are closer and closer to "the midnight", means that we will see, the whole world will be the witness that The Retribution finally coming home to United States Land sooner than later. A joyful day for all mankind.
That description of Zelenskyy as a mankurt may not be true as he is a vicious, murderous, moralless kike who knows exactly what he is doing and he is doing it all for the creation of ''Big Israel'' or New Khazaria and lots and lots of shekels in his bank accounts.
The article says the flag is, "But speaking of the 114th on the flag. The 114th was the famed Vostok Battalion of the DPR prior to being absorbed into the Russian military structure:"
It's not toxic in the sense that one whiff will kill you, but we're talking about a slurry of coal dust particles that'll definitely fill up your lungs eventually (see "black lung disease" for more). In other words, wear a mask (unlike with viruses, it'll actually help).
P95 will control most airborne viruses and P100 are pretty much absolute protection, but money, failure to be trained in fitting, and of course interference with cosmetics rules them out for all but some countries medical staff. Das Capital. Covid was an interesting trial run, the next one out of the lab might be far more effective.
Hopefully once the Russians take Avdeevka it will be more difficult for Kiev to slaughter innocent civilians in Donetsk with artillery fire.
I would assume the MSR can be targeted employing drones, no? And the coke plant won't block artillery fire which can come from the sides or certainly high angle over the top if need be. Even low angle fire, at considerable distance, will likely to be at a high enough elevation to clear the plant if it is along the line of fire.
I feel like I’m losing touch with the SMO. I’m more comfortable with it.
The Israeli conflict is slightly confusing and has the potential to get much bigger and more serious. Plus I’m tired of seeing civilians crushed under buildings covered in blood. It’s exhausting.
The fact that Israel has killed more civilians in two weeks than Russia in 18 months is disgusting.
How do you propose Israel destroy Hamas without harm to civilians now that Hamas has positioned itself in the middle of those civilians? That's a serious question, which applies to just about every modern war BTW. Did you know that of the approximately 60 million people killed during WWII around 45 million were civilians, including children of course (in part due to firebombing of German cities by the Allies)? Of course many of those were civilians targeted and slaughtered by the Nazis, much like the defenseless Israelis targeted and slaughtered by Hamas. If anything Hamas was even more barbaric than the Nazis.
You just demonstrate what a prejudiced ignoramus you are every time you leave a comment, but you don't understand that do you? I won't waste any more time on you.
Hamas could be neutralized tomorrow without firing a shot, by giving the peace-loving majority of Palestinians a SOVEREIGN STATE with its capital in Jerusalem. You know, just like has been agreed to umpteen million times by the UN and everyone else.
Nonsense. Hamas just demonstrated to the world that they are deranged by ethnic hatred, not to mention they say outright they want to kill all Jews. They have made it clear they are utterly intolerant, hateful self serving religious fanatics; mind numbingly barbaric and consumed by blood lust. You can't make peace with monsters like Hamas. And if they actually cared about peaceful Palestinians they wouldn't be trying to use them as human shields, which now isn't going to work after their targeted slaughtered of defenseless Israeli civilians, including many children. Hamas brings nothing by death and misery to everyone, including peaceful Palestinians.
Just fuck off and cry about your 40 beheaded babies. You are an ignorant fool, a brain washed ashkeNAZI loving scum bag.
"not to mention they say outright they want to kill all Jews. They have made it clear they are utterly intolerant, hateful self serving religious fanatics; mind numbingly barbaric and consumed by blood lust"
You are so blinded by your jewy programming you willfully ignore a parade of ashkeNAZI filth that have stated those same words about Palestinians, indeed all Arabs, and project the deeds and words of ashkeNAZIs on to their victims.
"slaughtered of defenseless Israeli civilians, including many children"
The numbers are nothing compared to the children the Jews have massacred over the decades.
You are a low cunt and I would love to meet you one day; you would not be so lippy after I finish.
Perhaps you aren't aware, Egypt blocked the exit. The Israelis have of course warned noncombatants to move into the southern area and they've now had about three weeks to do so. But it looks like Israel isn't even going to let Hamas hide behind the Israeli civilians they kidnapped. Hamas' deranged killers must be destroyed or caged, obviously, and they are going to take many more innocent lives with them but those self serving fanatics don't care. Incidentally the individuals who have been using those barbarians are now safe and sound, far from the fighting, and rolling in donated money while more innocent lives are destroyed.
Egypt has blocked the exit because they already have enough problems of their own.
Egypt imports roughly half of their food - an influx of 2 million Palestinians is not going to help them. Even more importantly - the present leader of Egypt is in power specifically from booting out a Muslim Brotherhood leader. Palestinians are far more Muslim Brotherhood supporting than Sisi supporting - why exactly would Sisi want to bring in more people who fundamentally don't like him?
But the main point is still the same: ethnic cleansing.
Removal of Palestinians from Gaza is ethnic cleansing. Using Hamas removal as an excuse doesn't change the fact.
Why should they go to Egypt? Open a humanitarian corridor and let them come to the other side of fence in what you call Israel. They're not a separate country yet, they're a population under occupation of Israel and by international law, their safety and well being is the responsibility of Israel. Either give them a country of their own or treat them like population of Israel.
Militarily that is. Reason is Hamas is an idea. The idea of armed resistance to an occupying force.
The only way to “destroy” Hamas, is to 1) remove the desire for that resistance or 2) kill all the people there or move them far away from you.
What Israel is doing now is take revenge. Settle a debt. Kill as many as possible from Hamas but killing Palestinians is great too.
For a real solution, Israel is opting for 2) above.
Now unless you are a “Zionist shill” like other commentators have said, you would condemn it.
The real REAL solution is 1) above. Bribery didn’t work so the only way is to address their legitimate grievances.
As from a military perspective, humanitarian corridors into Israel is the only possible viable path. They won’t leave for Egypt or anywhere else because Israel won’t let them back. I’m not even sure even that would work because Israel wants to take even more of Gaza for a DMZ, which is ridiculous.
Also, Hamas does not wear a uniform. Inevitably you will end up with a horrendous number of civilian casualties, and again, if you value ALL innocent human life - which in the eyes of Israel only applies to Jewish life - then you wouldn’t do that.
So I go back to the start ... you cannot destroy Hamas.
Actually I agree, given that the Israelis are surrounded by people who hate them and want to kill them another group of deranged barbarians will no doubt form in due course after the current monsters are dealt with. However I don't agree that you can appease those hateful savages because, as they have demonstrated, they are driven by unhinged religious intolerance and bloodlust. You could give them all the land plus full control and they would still slaughter any Jews who wanted to live there peacefully (just like ISIS slaughtered Christians). That is the clear reality due to the large number of vile religious fanatics which infest the Arab world; as clearly demonstrated over and over again through numerous decades even when Israel has tried to compromise and live as peaceful neighbors. Appeasement is obviously futile, unless peaceful Arabs find some way to control the hateful monsters among them.
Happily it is not my fight but if by some dreadful twist of fate I'd found myself in that part of the world mission number one would be to get out because of the horrific neighbors who have demonstrated repeatedly that they are never going to be peaceful. I hold no religious views and don't consider that part of the world special in any way; in fact it doesn't offer any appeal at all in my view. If for some reason I weren't able to get out I'd support building a massive barrier (walls, minefields, heavy artillery, subterranean barriers, air defense, electronic defense, etc.) guarded at all times by hardcore professional fighters employing top grade weapon systems.
I'll also note, as an American, were it up to me I'd prohibit DC from getting involved in that part of the world in any way, shape or form; no military, no money, no anything for Arabs or Israelis. The imbeciles infesting DC will only make it worse.
1. The Jews are the same when it comes to the Palestinians. They dehumanize them calling them animals, brag about taking their houses, and say this is will only end when all the Palestinians are dead or driven out. So spare me. Both sides hate each other. There are no good sides.
2. Funny you should mention ISIL. Do you know that they apologized to Israel when they killed a Jewish man by accident and their terrorists were treated in Israeli hospitals? Weird
3. Did you know that the Mossad helped fund Hamas to counter the secular diplomatic initiatives of the PLO? Or that Netanyahu told the Knesset that anyone who wants to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state should support Hamas?
I think I’ve said enough.
If you still think the same way there’s no hope for you.
Militarily that is. Reason is Hamas is an idea. The idea of armed resistance to an occupying force.
The only way to “destroy” Hamas, is to 1) remove the desire for that resistance or 2) kill all the people there or move them far away from you.
What Israel is doing now is take revenge. Settle a debt. Kill as many as possible from Hamas but killing Palestinians is great too.
For a real solution, Israel is opting for 2) above.
Now unless you are a “Zionist shill” like other commentators have said, you would condemn it.
The real REAL solution is 1) above. Bribery didn’t work so the only way is to address their legitimate grievances.
As from a military perspective, humanitarian corridors into Israel is the only possible viable path. They won’t leave for Egypt or anywhere else because Israel won’t let them back. I’m not even sure even that would work because Israel wants to take even more of Gaza for a DMZ, which is ridiculous.
Also, Hamas does not wear a uniform. Inevitably you will end up with a horrendous number of civilian casualties, and again, if you value ALL innocent human life - which in the eyes of Israel only applies to Jewish life - then you wouldn’t do that.
So I go back to the start ... you cannot destroy Hamas.
Israel's Nuclear Bomb Missiles Samson Option is a strong reason for the hesitancy of all its neighbours to come to the aid of Gaza & West Bank Palestinians. 85% of scientists & Manhattan Project leaders were Jewish, festering in our time up to the unleashing the likely death knell of humanity. Along with Israel's Palestinian 'genocide' (UN definition = 'Removing people from or destroying the means of livelihood' along with state & settler murder) over the past 120 years, there is little Israeli compunction about mass murder. Such as Cairo, Damascus, Beirut, Istanbul, Tehran as targets, given the perception of perpetual Jewish victimhood most often during unadulterated arms-length aggression.
Humanity's better Defence Strategy, with Israel & indeed all our relations everywhere, is to engage a significant portion of our human resources, where we always should have been in 'DIALECTICAL' ('Both-sided') PROPAGANDA. All humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors kept peace & intelligence alive through formal, BOTH-SIDES-NOW, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Dialogues called COUNCIL PROCESS. The more we can engage our perceived enemies in dialogue everywhere at every level of society, work, education, governance, courts, sports etc., the more we create the expectation for all to engage in this formal dialogue for both reaching constructive understanding & agreements together as well as conflict resolution. Recorded & Published aspects put the reputation of the dialogue parties on the line, enables superior logic & heart to triumph & brings whole communities, even the whole world into the conversation & situation. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
The Phoenix, I agree. It would be self-destruction. TALK SOFTLY BUT CARRY A BIG STICK. It is entirely appropriate that; Russia or China give Israel the kind of warning you describe. If Israel officials don't engage in formal Both-sided, Equal-time, Recorded & Published dialogue & as well continue their 120 years of Palestinian genocide, use or show signs of using their nukes, they should be dealt with very severely for the safety of all humankind & all life.
The Ashkenazi (some-of-my-family) choice to invade Palestine-Israel is partially due to it being the LANDBRIDGE between the mega-continents of Eurasia & Africa as a centre of geo-strategic control. According to the 'Out-of-Africa' genetic studies, about 6 billion people have ancestors who have lived in or passed through Palestine. The only holiness of this place as a human energy conduit, is our responsibility & obligation to be welcoming & economically inclusive of the stranger, refugee & traveler. Palestinians originally welcomed & included the Ashkenazi refugee, before understanding their leaders' genocidal intent. We all as humanity, will do well to recall our once worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') Relational-Economy. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy & Mutual-Aid https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/9-mutual-aid
The western Oligarchs who own & operate Israel & control finance to the western world, seem to be on such a path as suicide already. My Israeli cousins have bought into wealth & privilege for the few rather than collective intelligence & enrichment for all. Given COVID-19 Gain-of-Function bioweapon & mRNA gene destruction, Oligarchs & their submissive Israeli minions are demonstrating a strong despondent homicide-suicide psychosis & depopulation agenda. Israelis don't seem to be able to understand that; it is they themselves who have degraded & festered the "Bad-neighbourhood" which they themselves fear in such a paradox of self-projection onto the other.
It's simple. Another nuclear power should give their nuclear protection to Iran since Israel has obtained nukes illegally and has faced no repercussions unlike North Korea. Ultimately Iran should develop nukes so that Israel can not hold the whole region to ransom with its Samson option. Tell them if they use nukes, they'll be used on Israel too. The only reason US was able to use nukes in Japan was because nobody else had them.
Rashmi or The Phoenix, RE: "Its simple" or "I'm going to answer this very simply"
Yes ideally Russia or China, who have nuclear weapons, at that level of being able to give a comprehensive blow or response to our western Sicko threats or aggression by the Oligarch commanded & controlled Pathological genocidal murderers of USA, Britain, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, Australia & Israel colonial empire. Oligarch control over our societies over the last 2000 years has led to deep psychological pathologies.
Russia & China together should have agreements to give nuclear protection to Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt etc., as Israel's target victim states & desire for a Greater-Israel Middle-east empire.
It is extremely complex, when all hell breaks loose. North Korea for example justifiably has nukes, to counter us crazies, but doesn't have the complex strategic nuclear & technological network capacity by itself. In the nuclear sicko-game, its important to have vast stockpiles of the most advanced hypersonic delivery tools as well as massive payloads to destroy whole urban regions. As well as we must allow for what western madmen weapons development, we don't know about.
Given these kinds of Doomsday odds, I put most of my energy into the Dialectic Propaganda angle of helping minds to find their own truths, each at their own levels, in their own ways through all humanity's worldwide ancient 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') COUNCIL-PROCESS traditions reduced here to Both-Sides-Now, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Dialogues. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues as part of the Great-good-way-of-kindness, Great-law-of-peace, Constitution expressed as the indigenous Circle-of-Life. All humanity’s ancient CIRCLE-of-LIFE, provides checks & balances in livelihood activity, for loving life functions over many 10s of 1000s of years of vibrant, abundant, distributed wealth in loving societies. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/3-indigenous-circle-of-life
Go do yourself a favor and see how many times they've done the same trick with North Korea, and how many times Kim Jong-Un has been ill or his uncle "murdered by dogs" or his cousin "executed by a firing squad using machine guns" and all the other malarkey they put out. It costs nothing to invent a rumor.
Seriously hope Simplicius will not swallow the bait and start discussing deliberately placed rumors. But, think a second about psychologic operations like an art, like cooking, or creating a music hit. Psychop produces noise that covers a real thing, it is a junk food for the mind, a music for elevators...
What is the real thing?
Putin speaks the truth, on many subjects. When people busy themselves with rumours about Putin health they have an easy pathway to skip listening, understanding what Putin is saying.
About war with Ukraine, about NATO enlargement, about EU, about Nordstream, about Palestine, Israel, about China, BRICS....
I heard he died of foot cancer a year ago and has been replaced by a clone 🤪
I do not mind he is getting cloned as long as the ideology stays the same. you know, Rockefeller got his heart replaced several times, refusing to go before seeing the world in flame. So, why don't we cloned Putin for the sake of mankind on this planet eih?
NATO and the European garden aren't the "whole world".
You are aware Putin wants fewer NAZIs around or near Russia? Can't blame him.
The capo Zelenski works tirelessly for US and WEF interests as does Israel.
yeah that's the 10th times of heart attack this year.... remember while his health also rapidly declining over the year... yet, the man refuse to enter the grave. How come he did this..!
"crazy" is a key word. Why get associated with it? I try not to step in it, or near it.
I heard the Ghost of Kiev shot him.
In his F-16...LOL
Mr. Putin made a statement this morning that it is just a forlorn wish of the idiots ruining the West.
thanks you -
Yes, it happened an hour before he conducted a lengthy meeting with a delegation from Brazil because, you know, that's how Putin rolls. He gets cancer and other terminal illnesses or falls down a flight of stairs about every three months.
Hahaha....
Happend in Kiev signing the capitulation papers together with Xi. Trust me bro!
"there's a crazy new rumour circulating today" you probably waste to much time reading crap comments on pro-ukrops TG channels, chill a bit dude.
Don't pull the victim card, it's pathetic. If you "don't want a lot of replies" then don't comment stupid stuff in the fist place. You comment stupid stuff, you deserve to be made fun of. If you read a baseless "rumour" in some random website and then come here asking if it's true before trying to check any other sources, then it really shows where your IQ sits.
Putin just said that West US NATO cannot fight anyone serious anymore, not China, not India, not Russia, not Muslims, not Arabs. If they are united. The only way for US to fight and win wars is through divide and rule. It is urgent to restart conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims, between Saudis and Iran. Otherwise US would have to fight united Arab world, and would lose the fight.
Second, for a moment, but most important war to start is between India and China. War between India and China is the only way US can keep its position of global rule maker. No other way exists.
Rumors about Putin always mean that US needs to stop global public from listening to Putin.
The 114th’s emblem, (as with Russia’s Coat of Arms) highlights Saint George, of the Roman Praetorian Guard who would not renounce his Christian Faith and was beheaded in 303AD. In honor of these warrior’s and in memory of St George:
“This day is called the Feast of Crispian”. (October 25).
Saints Crispin and Crispinian are the Christian patron saints of cobblers, curriers, tanners, and leather workers. They were beheaded during the reign of Diocletian; the date of their execution is given as 25 October 285 or 286.
Legend
Born to a noble Roman family in the 3rd century AD, Crispin and Crispinian fled persecution for their faith, ending up at Soissons, where they preached Christianity to the Gauls while making shoes by night. It is stated that they were twin brothers.[1]
They earned enough by their trade to support themselves and also to aid the poor. Their success attracted the ire of Rictus Varus, governor of Belgic Gaul,[2] who had them tortured and thrown into the river with millstones around their necks. Though they survived, they were beheaded by the emperor.
The St. Crispin’s Day speech from Henry V
William Shakespeare
King Henry V: What’s he that wishes so? My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin: If we are mark’d to die, we are enow To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater share of honour. God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more. By Jove, I am not covetous for gold, Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost; It yearns me not if men my garments wear; Such outward things dwell not in my desires: But if it be a sin to covet honour, I am the most offending soul alive. No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England: God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour As one man more, methinks, would share from me For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more! Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart; his passport shall be made And crowns for convoy put into his purse: When would not die in that man’s company That fears his fellowship to die with us. This day is called the feast of Crispian: He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named, And rouse him at the name of Crispian. He that shall live this day, and see old age, Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian:’ Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars. And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.’ Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he’ll remember with advantages What feats he did that day: then shall our names. Familiar in his mouth as household words Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester, Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d. This story shall the good man teach his son; And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remember’d; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition: And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.
From Henry V, Act IV, Scene III
❤️Wage Peace,
⭐️Keep the Faith,
#AttacktheMIMAC
#DeNazthePlanet!
On Eagle’s Wings Angels fly,
Who walk upon waters, And soar crystal skies,
There once again we gather to meet, Amidst the roaring thunder of a Warrior’s feat.
A Band of Brothers, from the East arise, With the Souls of Children,to a Savior’s cry:
“Awake Nations! Awake! Arise!
Dawn is come, a new Sunrise”
Warren Monty Quesnell
265th RRC, 101st Airborne Div.
“Through the Night”
Eagle’s Nest, Ashau Valley.
Q_Nam68
Looks like Avdeevka may well turn into a resounding Russian success. But will take time in any case
How do you square the dissonance out there? UK/US pols and media continue to say/believe that Russia is being degraded and destroyed, Ukraine is making progress, etc. Why? I mean, if they paint Russia as this powerful big bad scary evil force, wouldn't that "steel" people more? McConnel saying that Ukraine is destroying Putin's army and Graham calling it a great investment - do you think they are lying, or they are getting bad intel? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I have seen up close and personal one too many times how large corporate structures can get things totally, diametrically wrong, and leadership is too blinded to properly Red Team consensus that reaches them
Second, on Syria - why do they never respond or react to Israeli air strikes? They have advanced russian SAM systems which could easily impose costs on the IAF (assuming they use them properly). Its been 20 years or so that the Israelis bomb Syria with impunity, without so much as a peep from Damascus. Is the IAF that good, are the Syrians that bad, or what?
Graham will never tell the truth. McConnell is the most political animal in the Senate. Take whatever they say with a grain of salt, you won't hear enlightenment from either. They'll just move on from lying and being wrong to more lies and more wrongheaded policies.
As to why, they think it's still 2001.
"Is the IAF that good, are the Syrians that bad, or what?"
or what.
Assad is still weak and fighting Israel is not something he is ready for.
There are a lot more "or what" out there, but that will do.
When God is on your side that is not weak.
Assad being weak does not explain Israel bombing Syria with impunity. Russia is there allegedly in support of Syrian interests. Those optics look bad, i.e. terrible, if Israel can bomb at will without a Russian response, or at least providing Syria with S-300 or S-400 air defense systems and other means to defend itself. A few Israeli planes shut down would quickly bring a hold to those airstrikes who are only continuing because there is no price to pay. To say that this does not send a signal of confidence to other potential Russian allies in the region is an understatement. Other than that, it makes Russia look weak where it should look strong. Compare this with the US who not only makes it clear they are willing to fight an all out war for their ally Israel, but are now sending air defense systems to Saudi Arabia as well. Putin can't possibly believe that the US support for Ukraine is not supported by Israels as well when the most of the US neocons screaming for Russian blood are Jew.
Putin is there at Assad's invitation. Beyond that, let your enemies make mistakes before committing yourself. Appearing strong by giving the Israelis a bloody nose won't compare to destroying the Israeli state when they overextend, as you know they will. It's unfolding before your eyes now.
How do you destroy a nuclear weapon-armed state? Unless the nukes are as fake as the Iron Dome....
Depends how suicidal they are. Once the first one is used, they're doomed anyway.
You don't destroy a nuclear armed state, if by destroy you mean killing everyone and destroying everything, without eliciting a final all-out nuclear spasm in its death throes.
You best deal with a nuclear armed state by costing them enough pain that they can't continue their aggression. Keep fighting for longer than they can afford to and eventually their economy will collapse because too many men are in the military service and not in the productive sectors, and also eventually they will run out of munitions and fuel and food if they are not being resupplied. So in the case of Israel as long as they are supplied by the US they will be able to continue. Once that stops they will have to pull back and negotiate an agreement with their neighbors.
Of course if the Arab world won't stop until every Jew in Israel is gone, or if the political and/or military in Israel decides they will not accept a loss of this sort and it is time to unleash the nuclear option, then the nukes fly and whomever is left picks up the pieces
Modern nukes can be dialed down to much smaller bursts, if it makes you feel better.
Triple like!
"it makes Russia look weak where it should look strong"
When you are weak, appear strong. When you are strong appear weak.
~~Alec Tzu
Sun Tzu was not talking about looking weak after the shooting has started, but before. With the Israelis doing airstrikes on a Russian protectorate the shooting has started and is a time when you don't want to look weak.
I agree. I couldn't resist the opportunity for a joke.
~~Alec Tzu
The neocons have paraphrased that: look weak when you ARE weak.
I think there are more complicated considerations at play re: why Russia doesn't allow its AD to be used by Syria against IDF strikes. I don't know what they are, but the geopolitical considerations of everything going on today (and especially with the SMO) are massive and deep.
Your take on western Jewish neocons and Israel misses what's most important: they're not the same, and they're not particularly allied. The Jewish neocons are exclusively European Jews (Ashkenazi). Israel is a mix of Ashkenazi (mostly Reform from a religious perspective, and strongest in Tel Aviv) and Orthodox (who are almost entirely Mithrazi or Arabic Jews, and Sephardic or Spanish/North African Jews, and a very few Ashkenazi). Netanyahu is partly so successful because he straddles that divide - he comes from a mixed Reform Ashkenazi / Orthodox Mithrazi marriage. The hilarity of European Jew falls in love with Orthodox Mithrazi and all the shenanigans that ensue must be the most popular trope on Israeli TV for the past decade, mirroring wokeness in western TV.
Orthodox have large families, are entitled to lots of government benefits, and are exempt from military service. Ashkenazis (almost all of them) have 1.2 kids per family or something, pay for the Orthodox's entitlements, are subject to military duty and conscription, and resent the hell out of the arrangement. And the tipping point was just reached in the past few years - the Orthodox now clearly have the upper hand in terms of the Israeli electorate and numbers.
Thus, Ersatz Ersatz Israel (which Zelensky has mentioned repeatedly) - creating a new Jewish homeland in the historical Pale, the original homeland of most European Jews in western Ukraine. That's one reason why analysis of what it'll take to push Zelensky to peace negotiation is a fool's errand: who said the goal was to win the war against Russia? In all likelihood, the goal was to rid the land of pesky Ukrainians, which is at the 70% or 80% mark of success (since a lot of those remaining are elderly people who will die soon anyway, or disabled who can do little to resist).
The true war is yet to come - between the Ashkenazi settlers and their partners-of-convenience in the Ukrainian nationalist battalions like Right Sektor and Azov. The U.S. told the neo-Nazis funding would end if the Ashkenazi running Ukraine were removed in a coup; the OUN had too much power for Zelensky not to ally with them. Eventually the marriage must dissolve, and it will be bitter.
I agree with much of what you wrote, but............ "The Jewish neocons are exclusively European Jews".......... is wrong. The Kagan's and Nuland's are former Russian Jews along with many others who hate Russia.
By themselves, they cannot take on USISrael.
They are no longer alone, as the Arab world coalesces. Now that Russia is allowing Iran to use its airbase in Syria, I expect everything is changed. If Israel strikes that base, Russia will be in, no?
Right now, it looks to me like Hezbollah is teasing things out. There is a plan being built behind all this. I don't think they're waiting for any red lines to be crossed...that happened with the hospital, reinforced with the Greek Orthodox church. Just probably moving pieces into place & waiting for the right moment.
Russia and China can get a meeting with anyone, anywhere, anytime. The US and EU have managed to isolate ourselves internationally. This makes the US dangerous. The Potato-in-Chief is not the problem. He is a marionette. Will Obama order HIS White House staff to not start WW3?
I don't think Obama is running the show. I think there are higher level bosses that O reports to.
Also, I see no reason to insult potatoes. They are delicious comfort food. Biden, not so much ...
Even the politicians don't believe Ukraine has a chance anymore, and certainly no members of the public with the slightest discernment..That's why Biden's proposal has aroused such a negative reaction outside of Congress...
I don't see how any further Ukraine funding passes in this situation. They'll insist the funds be redirected to Israel rather.
Biden asks; Senate under Dem control might pass his request. House won’t, they negotiate something out in ‘conference committee’ that turns into the final bill.
Congress can always grant funding to the Ukraine now to give out later. A tease and a hedge.
Most of the Ukie funding will be for future weapons orders to replace current obsolete weapons draw downs. Israel will get all the cash and gear we can spare as quick as it can be shipped. "Give until it hurts, and then give some more."
I don't think NATO's Military Dependency of Ukraine is going to hold past February unless something drastic occurs. It's lines are collapsing and the collapses are wide and rapid.
"How did you go bankrupt?"
"It started slowly and then all of a sudden".
I do believe the elected congressional blood worshippers are aware of this. An August estimate placed the Bandera army to have used all of it's reserve artillery shells by February at the earliest and April at the latest. Israel is now getting those shells. Didn't take 2 weeks for the shortage to make itself felt.
I don't think its about Ukraine having a chance or not. I think they are stuck. In a sense Biden asking for $60bn is rather clever - if it passes he can say he did all he could, and if it fails he can pass blame for failure onto congress.
Even if, lets say we believe that within the WH they believe that the war can't be won, there is no mechanism for a climbdown, or de-escalation. Biden has repeatedly painted himself into rhetorical traps. Sounding tough and maximalist on TV is cool for about 10s until you realize you have now limited your options.
Also, by forcing Ukraine into the mess of the last 18 months, they have created the Russia that they need to fear: one which there is no more western economic leverage, no diaspora with billions invested in London and NY, a modernized, motivated and experienced military, industrially resurgent, and now in bed with China. Oh and one which has no choice but to destroy the regime in Kiev.
I often wonder if Zelensky realizes he has been used, and just how willing a participant he has been.
The unforced errors go back beyond Biden. The weapons systems pointed at the US now were created in response to US withdrawal from the ABM treaty and other high-handed actions. So, those ABMs that won't work against the hypersonic weapons...were they worth it?
Besides which, there were innumerable moments when getting in bed with Moscow would have been much wiser than making them into an enemy. Hubris is the only explanation.
There are many explanations beyond hubris. Former Soviet Jews and their visceral hatred of Russia now calling the shots in Washington for one. The support of their ethnic tribe controlling the western media is another. All this made possible by the fact that it is next to impossible to get elected or reelected in the US unless you have the support of the same people and their cousins. Let's not ignore the elephant in the room.
Unwise is unwise whatever you think of Russia. Kissinger was no idiot and knew better, irrespective of his ethnicity. His opinion on the Ukraine is pretty instructive here; no one is listening of course, but he keeps saying 'negotiation'. So I still call it hubris, regardless of the animus against Russia.
Biden previously tried tying Ukraine aid to Florida hurricane aid and to Maui wildfire aid.
So the administration appears to be serious, not just making an offer that they know cannot be accepted.
Similarly, the real impasse in selecting a House Speaker hinges on Ukraine aid.
Yes. The USA seems to increasingly overestimate their abilities, and not just in foreign policy. Of course, they never get called on it, though that may be changing, just put the blame on others.
Please don't use the words Biden and clever in the same sentence again. The CD is near fatal :D
The capo Zelenski has always been a willing participant in the crimes against his nation. As long as the cash was rolling in to continue the grift why wouldn't he allow himself to be abused like a $2 whore? He ain't dying.
I have been thinking lately that if the capo Zelenski decides to run to Russia through a third country for safety that Putin will take him.
I occasionally check in on what is posted on jootoob and so many Yanks think that Ukraine is kicking the Russian Federations arse.
Same on Shitchute. A good 40% odd of commentators have no knowledge of history, don't even know a thing called Glasnost occurred and think that Russia is communist!
Looking at these comments from shitheads in communist Yankeeland always makes me laugh.
Americans don't know jack shit about much outside their borders. It's a problem but not one I can figure out how to solve. They get propagandized to believe the Ukes are winning so as to prevent the inevitable complaints about sending $$$ there when we have better uses for it here. They have no idea about the neocon and Israeli scams. Seems like everyone we support nowadays behaves like a Nazi.
Tried telling someone about the Barbarossa decree from 1941 that was a war crime in and of itself and several were convicted at Nuremberg of distributing it. One of its features is authorizing 'collective punishment' in the SU. Point out that this is what is going on in Gaza. Blank stares of course.
What you say about Americans and anything outside their state, much less country, is very true.
However, they can see these billions going abroad even as Americans suffer.
We don't know jack shit about what goes on inside our borders either. Everything is a lie.
I would differ and say a lot know, very few feel willing to speak. It honestly appears to me there is more freedom of expression in Russia than there is here, and it pains me to say that.
I'm seriously thinking of moving there. If it wasnt for my elderly parents that I need to occasionally look after we'd move. Visited 3x and it reminds me of America I grew up in 1970s. No homeless, clean etc. I don't know much about the politics there other than Putin's speeches I've read he sounds more reasonable than any US politician who scare me right or left.
I'm like 5th generation American but my great great gf came from Russia in 1800s so thats why we visited in the first place. Maybe Putin will let me come "home" :P
Some of us do, but we live in the Empire of Lies, overseen by the Father of Lies. Strange situation.
Aye....some do understand the reality of these situations, but are in very much a minority. It's painful to see the zombies stumbling around glued to their phones while the world is burning.
Herein lies the problem HBI. Most Americans could not tell you where Ukraine or most Eastern countries are located if you gave them a map as 70% of the population live where they are born. Our education system is just a joke now where unions control the education of your child unless you can afford a private school. Just yesterday Oregon schools will no longer hold students accountable for correct answers on problems as they think it discriminates against the dumb shits of the world. So 2 + 2 can equal 5. Critical thinking is being eliminated at all levels. Most people I know run on emotions and think I am a crazy pinko for pointing out how wrong our media is and how they are lying to them.
I served in the armed forces during Vietnam and Middle East and lived in Europe for 5 years. I told my family to just look at as map of the conflict and tell me who is winning. LOL they pointed out that the new red is who is winning an d I replied that is new Russian territory and they called me stupid as Ukraine is winning. I just gave up lol and told them to go read the dam map!!!
The realization that the government and its allies in the media have been lying to them all along comes late to people - I didn't believe it at first, and I had a friend who was telling me for years to stop supporting political causes because they were all bullshit. A little older and more cynical he was.
I laughed a little when you said 'pinko' because only people old enough to remember Archie Bunker probably have any conception of what that means anymore :-)
I'm not certain there were that many to start with, with decent critical thinking skills. The concept of an educated public is long gone, I agree. I'm glad you're out there thinking, Gordon, and I can only hope your familiy wises up eventually. Mine may never...and I fear the stupid ends us up in a nuclear exchange which none of us can do much about.
I stopped believing anything government says because of Iraq and BS patriot act and other security state measures passed in name of safety much of which had nothing to do with safety. I suppose I was in my early 30s when total distrust came about but it only took me one war. Thing is some never have that moment. My dad was lied into Vietnam lied to about every war since and still want to go after chinese commies and Muslims or whomever else that Fox tells him are bad. He's also got the vax Hannity and them told him to take. Then you get the guys who believe nothing the "liberal MSM" FAKE NEWS says unless it comes to war. Think most are doomed to fall in line next time puppet masters start another big war despite being fooled over and over again.
:::cue rich guys with cocktails laughing at us:::
Hello Gordon, from another Vietnam vet.
Did you mean *in*correct answers? God, I hope so, lol.
you have to see yourself, the Amerikan mentality, they literally still seeing Russian forces as the forces back to 2000, just watch... either the man lacked information or simply refuse to accept reality... crazy.
From Forgotten Weapons Channel: Why Are the Russians So Bad? War Stories from Ukraine with Neil Vermillion.
Back by popular demand, we have Neil Vermillion again today. We're talking about his experiences while volunteering as a trainer for troops in Ukraine. We're going to discuss why the Russians underperformed so badly, what the Ukrainians are doing well to adapt and improve, and perhaps why he has a somewhat scorched Wagner patch on his wall...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRqD92iYidg
I think you are giving the US civilians more credit for visualizing Russia and its capabilities than they deserve. The propaganda they get is precisely what you are talking about. It is largely ignored. Most don't know about Russia, didn't know in the 70s and 80s and really don't know now.
Yeah... They basically perhaps don't even can tell between Russia and Uni Soviet, for them, it's Commie all the way...
I doubt they are even thinking that hard. It's someplace where people talk funny. Understanding communism is reserved for emigres with a chip on their shoulder, and even those grow few.
that was when i unsubbed from forgotten weapons. After that how can you believe the guy knows the difference between a glock and a shotgun?
Agree I read somewhere that the problem with average Amerikan is that they are not lacking of empathy or sympathy, they are lacking of logic and common sense. Yeah make sense now.
Listen, there are stupid people everywhere. With that said, the environment of censorship and repression in the US is pretty fierce. People don't understand just how authoritarian their state has become in a conscious fashion, but their lack of interest in things that don't toe the government line is pretty rampant.
https://www.racket.news/p/newsguard-case-highlights-the-pentagons
Just one of the more open censorship cases, but there's lots more where that came from. It really started in 2001. The 2nd Bush admin was interested in censorship even before 9/11 happened.
You know where Snowden is living now...
"on Syria - why do they never respond or react to Israeli air strikes? "
They do. Remember a few years back the Syrians hit two IOF F-16s, one shot down the other made it back to occupied Palestine.
Since then they hide behind the mountain range on Syrian/Leb border, pop up, shoot and scurry back like the rats they are.
Russia needs to give them the keys to their S400. And they may do so.....
Yeah, Ernesto, I know that Syria (the nation) doesn't have S400. Maybe my pondering wasn't as clear as it needed to be. I meant why doesn't Russia give Syria the keys to the S400s Russia has there.
It must be frustrating for the SAA to see ashkeNAZI missiles on a weekly basis and then looking over at Russia's S400s doing fuck all.
As far as i remember is that idf-airforce is using rockets from south libanon / maybe north israel airspace to destroy targets in Syria. Not shure if was done in the recent airport attacks as well.
S300 or S400 to shoot down rockets, is overkill and Russia wont do such thing if even possible.
And shooting down isr. jets within Israel South Lebanese airspace has its own implications.
Syria will have to live with the situation for some time still, i guess. All flight movement in Isr. is transparent for Ru/Syr. so it can be assumed that at least loss of personal can be kept at bay.
Technology advances, and the rules must change accordingly. When an enemy aircraft had to come within your borders to drop bombs, everything was simple. You do all you can to shoot down the bombers. Today, the Israelis can strike targets in Syria by firing missiles from aircraft within Israeli air space. Should that make any difference? I think not. The missiles and the aircraft are part of one weapon system, and the whole system should be a legitimate target. And if burning F16s or F15s fall on Israeli towns, tough. What goes around comes around.
Syria did hit two F16s a few years ago, downed one, the second limped home.
They then changed tactics and now hide behind the border mountains, pop up, shoot and scoot.
From what I know, Russia and Israel have an understanding about what they can/cannot do in Syria. Similarly between Russia and US. And Syria is aware and agrees. Pretty cyclical in a way, but Russia needs to maintain a balance. But I hope that has changed since SMO started.
"ZioNazistan has destroyed the Aleppo and Damascus airports"
No, it temporarily damaged them, and only to some degree. It's very difficult to 'destroy' an airport, even almost impossible without using nukes. Those couple of Israeli missiles that make it past the air defences don't come close to what is needed.
"Bomb the runway"
Can usually be fixed in hours. Takes a couple of days at most, if massively bombed, which wasn't the case here.
"Bomb ... the terminal buildings"
Not critical for the operation of an airport. Planes can land and load/unload without terminal buildings. Happens all the time.
Seems to me that the war has badly misfired for the NATO "team". A plausible outcome might have been regime change in Russia, its break up and subsequent looting and control. At the very least they might have expected Russia to be damaged diplomatically, militarily and economically. Looks to me like the complete opposite is happening. Russia miscalculated early on to some extent, but is now much stronger than before in all these areas. In particular its military is now experienced, bigger and re-armed - backed by a revitatlised MIC. Its reputation has grown amongst those who do not get their world view from western media and dare I say it western intelligence agencies.
I think you're right; the gameplan was for shock&awe, the Russian elite to panic and toss Putin out, and immediately seek a negotiation. When that didn't happen it became a new plan, new strategy. But the horizon is constantly measured in very short terms i.e. the counteroffensive for example.
I know a few people who work in the sort of white glove EU elite institutes. I talk to them about this. The brainwashing is unbelievably strong, I mean I even heard someone say "Well you know Russia never had a proper Enlightenment so what do you expect". I had a visitor from England recently tell me she visited a place without Russian sanctions and "recoiled" when she heard Russians speaking at a cafe.
Even the basic logic that "cancelling" Russia and Russians from world culture/trade/sport/etc has backfired by uniting Russia and Russians also falls on deaf ears.
There is a momentum to things that once established can't really be easily reversed.
Brainwashing... I spoke to a budding Eurocrat a month ago. Your comment is right. There is an establishment view and it does not pay to challenge that view. Easier to believe that what you are being officially told is actually truthful.
Craig Murray is "under investigation for terrorism" in the UK. For declaring that his sympathies lie with the Gazans. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/10/incredibly-i-face-investigation-for-terrorism-defence-funds-appeal/
It's almost entirely because of horrifically bad intel. Trust me, I get emails all the time from my own father with links to ludicrous MSM articles that all say the same thing: Russia is doing stupid and dopey bad stuff while heroic Ukrainians are winning epic battles in their noble defense of freedom and democracy.
You can see this for yourself by going to Google and trying to find a single mention of a Ukrainian AD missile accidentally hitting a residential building (in Ukrainian-controlled territory) - it's nearly impossible. Yet it's happened close to 100 times since the war started.
Propaganda stuck in a feedback loop. Scary
"All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out".
- I. F. Stone
The Israelis either shoot out of range of Assad's AD or they shoot from protected areas like behind civilian air traffic. Also, until he has his country fully under control, he has little desire to expand his problems by inviting Israel to the party. But this situation won't last forever. Assad's army is tough as nails now after all these years fighting the West's ISIS and other Western-paid terrorists. They will yet have their day at the feast.
I assume things are being held back because there is a lot of negotiating going on. The US doesn't want an Israeli incursion into Gaza, and neither does the EU. The UK talking heads are surprised at the resistance to their dribble. I think even Bibi has his doubts, or he would have done it already. The chessboard has changed and many of our pieces are in trouble. It would really be a good time for brinkmanship, for someone to decide to go for long term PEACE DIPLOMACY. This "investment" as they call it is NOT paying off for me. We don't have enough homeless shelters and now we need fallout shelters??? America just isn't ready for this.
The problem for Israel and its backers is that there is zero desire for peace by the Palestinians. They and the collective Arab world are demographically winning and the Palestinians know it. The American Empire is collapsing. Any hope Israel had is collapsing with it. I believe it will end in a nuclear exchange in Israel’s death throws. If Israel had committed genocide of the Palestinians in the 1950’s Israel might have survived but they didn’t and now the tides of demographics are slowly drowning them.
So who has escalation dominance and who would lose, like Europe and the US all for a six million people state of UK intelligence? IT IS REALLY STUPID TO PROMOTE THE IDEA THAT COLONIAL POWERS GENOCIDED AND ENSLAVED THE THIRD WORLD AND THEN TO HAVE ISRAEL PROVE IT. This isn't on the globalist schedule. Bibi is gone. He no longer serves the collective globalist agenda and will be discarded along with Biden. The whole earth exists to support human existence and you think genocide of Palestinians in 1950s would have solved the problem? I'm sure that was a grammatical error. It starts slow then everything changes - hopefully, positively.
I actually think DaveinCC has a point. There is a certain point where you kill enough people/take their women that you can eliminate revanchism. Look back on history and you'll see it all over the place, dead peoples that have no more recent champions. They're all gone.
As long as there are millions of suckers ... sorry, "pro-democracy freedom fighters" around the world willing to fight and die as cannon fodder for the American Empire, the USA will view their deaths as a great investment to weaken a geopolitical opponent.
Put another way, the only thing that can deter America and its criminal wars is one thing: dead Americans.
Dead Ukrainians, dead Afghanis, dead Iraqis, dead Palestinians, or dead fill-in-the-blank non-American people do not "move the needle" to compel the USA to change its malign behavior.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the United Sociopaths of America in all its glory.
This is the lesson that the United States learned from Iraq - nation-building is expensive and quickly becomes politically unpopular.
The lesson that the United States learned from Libya is that nation-destroying is relatively cheap and has little political fallout in the United States itself.
I would like to believe 'learned' but no, probably not. It'll be back in 20 years or so.
Israel strikes using standoff missiles, and Syria does not respond to avoid giving the United States a pretext to do to Syria what it did to Libya.
Why does the reverse logic not work? Israel bombs away not caring for any reprisal from Russia, Iran, hezbollah, IS, Syria, Lebanon, whoever. They don't fear the Syrians. But they don't take direct action against Iran. Maybe the range is the issue...
Israel need not fear Syria because Syria cannot call on the Fifth Fleet, among other things.
Range is a problem with Israel attacking Iran directly. They'd need refuelling and overflight rights.
It's also known as boiling the frog alive technique, similar to the USA State Departments policy of thin slicing demands. Keep up an exhausting pressure, but never exceed a threshold that will inspire a knock down dragout fight that might be lost. All that USA money flowing into Israel is the real threat to Israel society, it corrupts and rots the system. Pressure just helps the rot go faster by creating demand for more spending.
I think that the Syrians have been hampered by Russian reluctance to tip their hand, when it comes to using their more advanced weapons. Perhaps that period is coming to an end.
I've heard that explanation before and never bought into it. Like, what's the point of having the defense system if you won't protect even basic civilian infrastructure like an airport? Is it going to take an Israeli 'miss' that hits the terminal and kills hundreds for them to defend their territory?
The US-Ukronazis would have benefitted from the Russians letting the cat out of the bag. I hope that the gloves come off soon.
I've heard in reports of Vanessa Beeley that Syria uses its S300 selectively and keeps them cold to not get detected as Israel can hit those. Something like that. The whole mess with different parties having their own limits and understandings in their operation inside Syria sounds really frustrating to me and I've nothing to do with Syria.
The simple reason is that Natoids actually believe they are winning.
Syrian S-300s were ordered by Russia to not fire on Israeli planes.
"McConnel saying that Ukraine is destroying Putin's army and Graham calling it a great investment - do you think they are lying, or they are getting bad intel? "
"Dec 2001: “Thanks to our military and our allies and the brave fighters of Afghanistan, the Taliban regime is coming to an end.” – George W. Bush"
"Sep 2012: We've blunted the Taliban's momentum in Afghanistan, and in 2014, our longest war will be over. - Barack Obama"
Do you think they were lying, or they were getting bad intel? Dude, they are politicians that mean that inspirational liar is literally they job.
It's the eternal doublethink of US deep state propaganda.
Russians are incompetent buffoons, and they're only just the 2nd best army even in Ukraine, because their men are just so unmotivated and untrained, they just surrender and let Ukrainian farmers steal their tanks with tractors and have already suffered over a million of lost soldiers, they are running out of ammo, missiles, microchips (but they can spare missiles to intentionally target strategically irrelevant civilian buildings) but they are so dangerous that we have to send everything we can for Ukraine to be able to stop them, and as long as it takes blah blah blah.
It's funny how the NAFO crowd forgot the first rule of propaganda: you should always dehumanise your enemy by portraying them as merciless, brutal, capable of anything, and stay honest about their capabilities, instead of downplaying their capsbilities and mocking them, because there's no real way to disprove the former, but if you lie about the latter it's very easy to get found out.
Bash, the answer is that the neocons are probably starting to believe their own propaganda.
The creation of the fantasy war is one of the more fascinating aspects of this conflict (alongside the re-emergence of WWI tactics with modern tech). Many otherwise intelligent persons have been completely taken in by it, either because they lack the critical thinking skills to notice the holes & contradictions, or because they willingly suspend disbelief.
It's not hard to figure out NATO's motive, at least -- they need to keep the people on board with a distant proxy war in times of economic trouble, which would normally be a very unpopular policy. I think NATO was hoping their two-pronged strategy would work (military aid to the front, sanctions to undercut them), but Putin's Russia is simply too strong; then, not knowing what to do, they kept doubling down.
To the propagandist's credit, they provide their sources, which are always either Ukrainian government officials, or NGO's funded by the State dept, and then the rest of the media copies from Reuters/AP. Thus, it's not hard to figure out how the media's fantasy war happened.
I am proud to be Russian, as this is why I believe, thanks to Russia, the world stands a chance of survival for another year, while bidendiaper hits the golf clubs course, with his head, or with Blinkens eyeballs...
I wish there will be peace in the world. But that would be hard for scAmerica's neosxum neofreak warmongrels, bark bark growl.
As a life long American I can speak for quite a few when I note it's a sad reality which keeps us from being friends. There is a lot that can be said but at this point I can only say many of us wish it wasn't the case.
God IS Good!
But which God? The Hindus have 33,333.
I like Stephen Fry's question when debating with a demented Evangelist; If your God is so merciful what about children with cancer? What the fuck is that all about? And why did he create insects that lay eggs in people's eyes and then hatch and eat their brains from within?
Irrelevant
Once humans realized how small they are in the grand scheme of the universe, they always attmept to accumulate power, wealth and create various gods just to remain sane.
And getting smaller all the time. A recent survey of what we have discovered from the search for exoplanets came up with a *minimum* estimate of the number of planets that might support life, just in our galaxy, as over 300,000,000. Ponder that a bit.
Or multiple other galaxies with hundreds of billions of stars each.
Gods don't kill people. People with gods kill people.
A common misunderstanding of God is that all people are His children, that's incorrect. All people are of His creation.
I'm too finite to understand God who is infinite. We have free will, I choose to worship Him; what you do is between the two of you, and that's it.
From my perspective, as a Christian I feel sorry for many of the people who claim to be Christian. I suspect they will eventually be surprised, but I'm nobody's judge, I have enough to do without trying to run other people's lives.
It strikes me as a mistake to judge God through the actions/words of people. I've never understood why people want to bring Him down to our level. People sure are odd!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4daF5Odm3uA
Which 'God'? I am 100% White and no fictitious singular sandland cult god is mine.
My roots date back to early Briton, Welsh and in more recent history a touch of Dane.
We have our own beliefs and have no need to import foreign inimical ones.
Odin and Thor must be relishing the slaughter in Ukraine and Gaza.
Ok
"...early Briton, Welsh and in more recent history a touch of Dane...." Show us yer visa. ;O)
Thank your Mr. Putin for fighting global communism and leading the charge against the W.H.O.s 'Pandemic Treaty'.
The work done starting even before Glasnost on BRICS+ and making ALL nations great again.
Thank YOU for being part of the Russian Federation who try to remind the rest of us what it is to be humans.
I would be more convinced of that if the soviets hadn’t behaved with such brutal inhumanly in 1945 with official sanction. Much like the Israelis
But then again remember all the Allied war crimes and inhumanity seems pretty much commonplace
Are you aware that the good ol' USA has slaughtered between 20M and 30M people, mostly civilians since WW2? 2M alone in Laos where they dropped more tons of bombs than was used in WW2. They just didn't like the new gov't there, kept the bombing secret.
The chickens may come home to roost, but, with luck or Grace, it will be TPTB that get their comeuppance
You think Putin is fighting the second largest party in the Duma, or is this some fictional creature of your nightmares, this global communism?
Don't like to any nation-state for strength in today's world, because there is none. Work on yourself, your family and your social circle.
Russia offered friendship and business with the west. They asked for a "Quebec" solution to the Eastern Ukraine regions and neutrality like the Austrian solution. Western global capitalism demanded a comprador Quisling courtiers government in Russia, supporting the western rape of country as it was under the drunken criminal Yeltsin. Russia is fighting for the people of the world against the globalist financial hegemonic exploitation and plunder of the old colonialism empires, defeated in battle but screwed by their compradors and the financial hegemony of the ruling classes of the west. Good luck, the working classes of world need you more than ever.
I have empathy for the female medic, but I think it's criminal to allow someone to get in range of enemy fire with hair like that. Marks her as a target at a long distance.
Well, she's the only one who will be affected by her lack of a self preservation instinct.
If one of my soldiers was doing something dumb, they'd get the what for at least. Maybe this is telling us something about Ukrainian unit cohesion?
In the field if my platoon didn't want to shave, cut their hair, wear regular uniform I had no problem, as long as minimum requirements were met at a base.
What if someone shaved their head and decided to paint a white and red target on it? Pretty much what she is doing.
My guess is medics are already supposed to be wearing identifiable arm bands, this would be a bigger problem if she was a regular grunt.
The guys being treated by her when remote fire is put on her location might not be so cheerful. It's why medics wear camouflage, (edit: According to the Geneva Convention, "knowingly" firing at a medic wearing clear insignia is a war crime. Vice versa, the convention also states that no medic should carry a weapon, or be seen engaged in combat. That gun makes her a legitimate target and any wounded she might be treating legitimate collateral damage, which is also why wounded don't carry weapons into an aid station, they make the medic a legitimate target in that case).
The weapon and lack of an armband make me doubt her understanding of the Geneva Conventions. Which is shitty for her since the Russians will abide by them if their opponents do, and she ain't.
It also occurred to me that a certain retired officer I know would give her a ration of shit for that hair mainly because she would be attracting fire towards HIS unit. Which is a great point. Sure, she's endangering herself, but if the fire is heading in my direction, she's endangering me also.
Any the wimmins with hair like that are clearly deranged, probably misandrists , woke as and NEED to be prime targets so they never breed.
Or they just don't like how they look, like most girls that age. I have daughters and a lot of sisters. Maybe i'm going soft in my old age. Two sisters that went Army, one was KIA and a niece who was a Marine.
Oh I don't know, I'm rather taken by the new colours.
A medic posing with an assault rifle in it's hands is not a medic.
I grant you that. My point stands about who the fuck is letting someone in range of enemy fire wearing a clown hat.
Andriy Biletsky is a true Nazi, he repeats that old racist lie of Erich von Manstein that the Soviets/Russians overwhelmed the Wehrmacht/AFU with huge hordes of "very bad human material", the sort of lie that goes down well with the rednecks and bluebloods that fill the US military academies . The Nazis and allies both old and new outnumbered both the Soviets and Russians up to 2 to 1 for the first years of the respective wars. Now the numbers tell in the opposite direction, but no fear, Biletsky will probably get a post war job just like Manstein or the scum Gehlen, writing crap that appeals to his paymasters biases and doing little nasties in-between buggering underage boys and girls.
Thanks Simplicius for this update. Looks like we are closer and closer to "the midnight", means that we will see, the whole world will be the witness that The Retribution finally coming home to United States Land sooner than later. A joyful day for all mankind.
The Ukrainian operations on the east Bank of the Dneiper are truly insane. The stuff of madness.
It's just stupid raiding. Barely worth the ammunition to kill them.
Exactly
That American dude is the first time i've heard Russian spoken with a Texas accent.
You have not really truly lived until you have heard Russian spoken with an Indian accent.
https://youtu.be/DoxTWvxnXSM?feature=shared
That description of Zelenskyy as a mankurt may not be true as he is a vicious, murderous, moralless kike who knows exactly what he is doing and he is doing it all for the creation of ''Big Israel'' or New Khazaria and lots and lots of shekels in his bank accounts.
I bet that slag heap dust is toxic. What's with the Soviet flag above the Russian? Thanks for the post.
The article says the flag is, "But speaking of the 114th on the flag. The 114th was the famed Vostok Battalion of the DPR prior to being absorbed into the Russian military structure:"
I meant in the video.
Many in DNR wanted to rejoin the Soviet Union, Russian Republic is a sad second to them, abet much welcomed.
It's not toxic in the sense that one whiff will kill you, but we're talking about a slurry of coal dust particles that'll definitely fill up your lungs eventually (see "black lung disease" for more). In other words, wear a mask (unlike with viruses, it'll actually help).
P95 will control most airborne viruses and P100 are pretty much absolute protection, but money, failure to be trained in fitting, and of course interference with cosmetics rules them out for all but some countries medical staff. Das Capital. Covid was an interesting trial run, the next one out of the lab might be far more effective.
Medvedev is intense!
Geez!
He's nearly a parody of himself. He conjures up the most nasty, grim narrations, but I find myself smiling ...
Hopefully once the Russians take Avdeevka it will be more difficult for Kiev to slaughter innocent civilians in Donetsk with artillery fire.
I would assume the MSR can be targeted employing drones, no? And the coke plant won't block artillery fire which can come from the sides or certainly high angle over the top if need be. Even low angle fire, at considerable distance, will likely to be at a high enough elevation to clear the plant if it is along the line of fire.
Thanks for the update.
I feel like I’m losing touch with the SMO. I’m more comfortable with it.
The Israeli conflict is slightly confusing and has the potential to get much bigger and more serious. Plus I’m tired of seeing civilians crushed under buildings covered in blood. It’s exhausting.
The fact that Israel has killed more civilians in two weeks than Russia in 18 months is disgusting.
How do you propose Israel destroy Hamas without harm to civilians now that Hamas has positioned itself in the middle of those civilians? That's a serious question, which applies to just about every modern war BTW. Did you know that of the approximately 60 million people killed during WWII around 45 million were civilians, including children of course (in part due to firebombing of German cities by the Allies)? Of course many of those were civilians targeted and slaughtered by the Nazis, much like the defenseless Israelis targeted and slaughtered by Hamas. If anything Hamas was even more barbaric than the Nazis.
FFS here it is again, the odious Zionist shill. Why don't you ask the ashkeNAZI scum why are there no humanitarian corridors open as Russia does?
Your question is moot and just a usual devious Jew ruse.
Take your mindless nonsense rhetoric elsewhere, you are just wearisome.
Hasbara filth, keep crying, whining, and coping while the Palestinians destroy your Zionist settler project.
You just demonstrate what a prejudiced ignoramus you are every time you leave a comment, but you don't understand that do you? I won't waste any more time on you.
No, you are just looking in the mirror
" I won't waste any more time on you."
I'll hold you to that promise.
But as Scott Ritter says about israhellis "They lie, they lie, they lie", and so too do their shameless and clueless apologists.
Hamas could be neutralized tomorrow without firing a shot, by giving the peace-loving majority of Palestinians a SOVEREIGN STATE with its capital in Jerusalem. You know, just like has been agreed to umpteen million times by the UN and everyone else.
Nonsense. Hamas just demonstrated to the world that they are deranged by ethnic hatred, not to mention they say outright they want to kill all Jews. They have made it clear they are utterly intolerant, hateful self serving religious fanatics; mind numbingly barbaric and consumed by blood lust. You can't make peace with monsters like Hamas. And if they actually cared about peaceful Palestinians they wouldn't be trying to use them as human shields, which now isn't going to work after their targeted slaughtered of defenseless Israeli civilians, including many children. Hamas brings nothing by death and misery to everyone, including peaceful Palestinians.
Just fuck off and cry about your 40 beheaded babies. You are an ignorant fool, a brain washed ashkeNAZI loving scum bag.
"not to mention they say outright they want to kill all Jews. They have made it clear they are utterly intolerant, hateful self serving religious fanatics; mind numbingly barbaric and consumed by blood lust"
You are so blinded by your jewy programming you willfully ignore a parade of ashkeNAZI filth that have stated those same words about Palestinians, indeed all Arabs, and project the deeds and words of ashkeNAZIs on to their victims.
"slaughtered of defenseless Israeli civilians, including many children"
The numbers are nothing compared to the children the Jews have massacred over the decades.
You are a low cunt and I would love to meet you one day; you would not be so lippy after I finish.
It isn't hard to destroy a combatant without egregious civilian casualties - look at the SMO.
But it does involve the willingness to fight on more equal terms and take casualties - something Western militaries are never known for.
Perhaps you aren't aware, Egypt blocked the exit. The Israelis have of course warned noncombatants to move into the southern area and they've now had about three weeks to do so. But it looks like Israel isn't even going to let Hamas hide behind the Israeli civilians they kidnapped. Hamas' deranged killers must be destroyed or caged, obviously, and they are going to take many more innocent lives with them but those self serving fanatics don't care. Incidentally the individuals who have been using those barbarians are now safe and sound, far from the fighting, and rolling in donated money while more innocent lives are destroyed.
Egypt has blocked the exit because they already have enough problems of their own.
Egypt imports roughly half of their food - an influx of 2 million Palestinians is not going to help them. Even more importantly - the present leader of Egypt is in power specifically from booting out a Muslim Brotherhood leader. Palestinians are far more Muslim Brotherhood supporting than Sisi supporting - why exactly would Sisi want to bring in more people who fundamentally don't like him?
But the main point is still the same: ethnic cleansing.
Removal of Palestinians from Gaza is ethnic cleansing. Using Hamas removal as an excuse doesn't change the fact.
Your bias is disgraceful. You have no capacity to see the issues. You are a ashkeNAZI crybaby and a liar.
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/10/24/what-really-happened-on-7th-october/
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/a-growing-number-of-reports-indicate-israeli-forces-responsible-for-israeli-civilian-and-military-deaths-following-october-7-attack/
Why should they go to Egypt? Open a humanitarian corridor and let them come to the other side of fence in what you call Israel. They're not a separate country yet, they're a population under occupation of Israel and by international law, their safety and well being is the responsibility of Israel. Either give them a country of their own or treat them like population of Israel.
Easy, the[y] bugger off to the European and American shitholes they came from.
Haha "defenseless".
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/10/24/what-really-happened-on-7th-october/
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/a-growing-number-of-reports-indicate-israeli-forces-responsible-for-israeli-civilian-and-military-deaths-following-october-7-attack/
I’m going to blow your mind right now.
You cannot destroy Hamas.
Militarily that is. Reason is Hamas is an idea. The idea of armed resistance to an occupying force.
The only way to “destroy” Hamas, is to 1) remove the desire for that resistance or 2) kill all the people there or move them far away from you.
What Israel is doing now is take revenge. Settle a debt. Kill as many as possible from Hamas but killing Palestinians is great too.
For a real solution, Israel is opting for 2) above.
Now unless you are a “Zionist shill” like other commentators have said, you would condemn it.
The real REAL solution is 1) above. Bribery didn’t work so the only way is to address their legitimate grievances.
As from a military perspective, humanitarian corridors into Israel is the only possible viable path. They won’t leave for Egypt or anywhere else because Israel won’t let them back. I’m not even sure even that would work because Israel wants to take even more of Gaza for a DMZ, which is ridiculous.
Also, Hamas does not wear a uniform. Inevitably you will end up with a horrendous number of civilian casualties, and again, if you value ALL innocent human life - which in the eyes of Israel only applies to Jewish life - then you wouldn’t do that.
So I go back to the start ... you cannot destroy Hamas.
Actually I agree, given that the Israelis are surrounded by people who hate them and want to kill them another group of deranged barbarians will no doubt form in due course after the current monsters are dealt with. However I don't agree that you can appease those hateful savages because, as they have demonstrated, they are driven by unhinged religious intolerance and bloodlust. You could give them all the land plus full control and they would still slaughter any Jews who wanted to live there peacefully (just like ISIS slaughtered Christians). That is the clear reality due to the large number of vile religious fanatics which infest the Arab world; as clearly demonstrated over and over again through numerous decades even when Israel has tried to compromise and live as peaceful neighbors. Appeasement is obviously futile, unless peaceful Arabs find some way to control the hateful monsters among them.
Happily it is not my fight but if by some dreadful twist of fate I'd found myself in that part of the world mission number one would be to get out because of the horrific neighbors who have demonstrated repeatedly that they are never going to be peaceful. I hold no religious views and don't consider that part of the world special in any way; in fact it doesn't offer any appeal at all in my view. If for some reason I weren't able to get out I'd support building a massive barrier (walls, minefields, heavy artillery, subterranean barriers, air defense, electronic defense, etc.) guarded at all times by hardcore professional fighters employing top grade weapon systems.
I'll also note, as an American, were it up to me I'd prohibit DC from getting involved in that part of the world in any way, shape or form; no military, no money, no anything for Arabs or Israelis. The imbeciles infesting DC will only make it worse.
1. The Jews are the same when it comes to the Palestinians. They dehumanize them calling them animals, brag about taking their houses, and say this is will only end when all the Palestinians are dead or driven out. So spare me. Both sides hate each other. There are no good sides.
2. Funny you should mention ISIL. Do you know that they apologized to Israel when they killed a Jewish man by accident and their terrorists were treated in Israeli hospitals? Weird
3. Did you know that the Mossad helped fund Hamas to counter the secular diplomatic initiatives of the PLO? Or that Netanyahu told the Knesset that anyone who wants to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state should support Hamas?
I think I’ve said enough.
If you still think the same way there’s no hope for you.
I’m going to blow your mind right now.
You cannot destroy Hamas.
Militarily that is. Reason is Hamas is an idea. The idea of armed resistance to an occupying force.
The only way to “destroy” Hamas, is to 1) remove the desire for that resistance or 2) kill all the people there or move them far away from you.
What Israel is doing now is take revenge. Settle a debt. Kill as many as possible from Hamas but killing Palestinians is great too.
For a real solution, Israel is opting for 2) above.
Now unless you are a “Zionist shill” like other commentators have said, you would condemn it.
The real REAL solution is 1) above. Bribery didn’t work so the only way is to address their legitimate grievances.
As from a military perspective, humanitarian corridors into Israel is the only possible viable path. They won’t leave for Egypt or anywhere else because Israel won’t let them back. I’m not even sure even that would work because Israel wants to take even more of Gaza for a DMZ, which is ridiculous.
Also, Hamas does not wear a uniform. Inevitably you will end up with a horrendous number of civilian casualties, and again, if you value ALL innocent human life - which in the eyes of Israel only applies to Jewish life - then you wouldn’t do that.
So I go back to the start ... you cannot destroy Hamas.
Israel's Nuclear Bomb Missiles Samson Option is a strong reason for the hesitancy of all its neighbours to come to the aid of Gaza & West Bank Palestinians. 85% of scientists & Manhattan Project leaders were Jewish, festering in our time up to the unleashing the likely death knell of humanity. Along with Israel's Palestinian 'genocide' (UN definition = 'Removing people from or destroying the means of livelihood' along with state & settler murder) over the past 120 years, there is little Israeli compunction about mass murder. Such as Cairo, Damascus, Beirut, Istanbul, Tehran as targets, given the perception of perpetual Jewish victimhood most often during unadulterated arms-length aggression.
Humanity's better Defence Strategy, with Israel & indeed all our relations everywhere, is to engage a significant portion of our human resources, where we always should have been in 'DIALECTICAL' ('Both-sided') PROPAGANDA. All humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors kept peace & intelligence alive through formal, BOTH-SIDES-NOW, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Dialogues called COUNCIL PROCESS. The more we can engage our perceived enemies in dialogue everywhere at every level of society, work, education, governance, courts, sports etc., the more we create the expectation for all to engage in this formal dialogue for both reaching constructive understanding & agreements together as well as conflict resolution. Recorded & Published aspects put the reputation of the dialogue parties on the line, enables superior logic & heart to triumph & brings whole communities, even the whole world into the conversation & situation. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
I’m going to answer this very simply: if Israel uses nukes they will seize to exist.
Period.
The day after, the year after, or within a few years. Doesn’t matter.
They would seal their fate and that is of eventual destruction.
The Phoenix, I agree. It would be self-destruction. TALK SOFTLY BUT CARRY A BIG STICK. It is entirely appropriate that; Russia or China give Israel the kind of warning you describe. If Israel officials don't engage in formal Both-sided, Equal-time, Recorded & Published dialogue & as well continue their 120 years of Palestinian genocide, use or show signs of using their nukes, they should be dealt with very severely for the safety of all humankind & all life.
The Ashkenazi (some-of-my-family) choice to invade Palestine-Israel is partially due to it being the LANDBRIDGE between the mega-continents of Eurasia & Africa as a centre of geo-strategic control. According to the 'Out-of-Africa' genetic studies, about 6 billion people have ancestors who have lived in or passed through Palestine. The only holiness of this place as a human energy conduit, is our responsibility & obligation to be welcoming & economically inclusive of the stranger, refugee & traveler. Palestinians originally welcomed & included the Ashkenazi refugee, before understanding their leaders' genocidal intent. We all as humanity, will do well to recall our once worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') Relational-Economy. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy & Mutual-Aid https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/9-mutual-aid
The western Oligarchs who own & operate Israel & control finance to the western world, seem to be on such a path as suicide already. My Israeli cousins have bought into wealth & privilege for the few rather than collective intelligence & enrichment for all. Given COVID-19 Gain-of-Function bioweapon & mRNA gene destruction, Oligarchs & their submissive Israeli minions are demonstrating a strong despondent homicide-suicide psychosis & depopulation agenda. Israelis don't seem to be able to understand that; it is they themselves who have degraded & festered the "Bad-neighbourhood" which they themselves fear in such a paradox of self-projection onto the other.
It's simple. Another nuclear power should give their nuclear protection to Iran since Israel has obtained nukes illegally and has faced no repercussions unlike North Korea. Ultimately Iran should develop nukes so that Israel can not hold the whole region to ransom with its Samson option. Tell them if they use nukes, they'll be used on Israel too. The only reason US was able to use nukes in Japan was because nobody else had them.
Rashmi or The Phoenix, RE: "Its simple" or "I'm going to answer this very simply"
Yes ideally Russia or China, who have nuclear weapons, at that level of being able to give a comprehensive blow or response to our western Sicko threats or aggression by the Oligarch commanded & controlled Pathological genocidal murderers of USA, Britain, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, Australia & Israel colonial empire. Oligarch control over our societies over the last 2000 years has led to deep psychological pathologies.
Russia & China together should have agreements to give nuclear protection to Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt etc., as Israel's target victim states & desire for a Greater-Israel Middle-east empire.
It is extremely complex, when all hell breaks loose. North Korea for example justifiably has nukes, to counter us crazies, but doesn't have the complex strategic nuclear & technological network capacity by itself. In the nuclear sicko-game, its important to have vast stockpiles of the most advanced hypersonic delivery tools as well as massive payloads to destroy whole urban regions. As well as we must allow for what western madmen weapons development, we don't know about.
Given these kinds of Doomsday odds, I put most of my energy into the Dialectic Propaganda angle of helping minds to find their own truths, each at their own levels, in their own ways through all humanity's worldwide ancient 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') COUNCIL-PROCESS traditions reduced here to Both-Sides-Now, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Dialogues. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues as part of the Great-good-way-of-kindness, Great-law-of-peace, Constitution expressed as the indigenous Circle-of-Life. All humanity’s ancient CIRCLE-of-LIFE, provides checks & balances in livelihood activity, for loving life functions over many 10s of 1000s of years of vibrant, abundant, distributed wealth in loving societies. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/3-indigenous-circle-of-life