Well, Trump did it again: under cover of giving Iran “two weeks” negotiating time, he instead launched a covert attack as soon as the assets were in place, later telling ‘Meet the Press’ that he said he would make the decision within two weeks, and two days technically falls in that time scale.
Very informative. My understanding is there are bunker busting tomahawk versions too. And yes not one picture from an Iranian cell phone nor showing off targets hit by the Air Forces in pressers says no manned aircraft have entered Iran.
The 'bunker buster' bombs are supposed to have a kinetic component that penetrates ground. If the speed is subsonic and the mass is not that huge (450kg/1000lbs) then the penetrating ability is not going to be all that much.
This. The GBU-57 "bunker buster" bombs are cartoon weapons. Consider a proven penetrator gravity bomb like the U.S. GBU-28: it has a narrow depleted uranium head to create an initial wedge. The body of the weapon is similar to an artillery barrel, and made on the same machines as U.S. M777s. The inside of that thick hardened body of the bomb is stuffed with high explosive. It can penetrate 150 feet of earth or 15 feet or reinforced concrete.
The GBU-57 is the same length as the GBU-28 and has a cheap looking sheet metal cladding. A rough napkin calculation given the density of military-grade PBX HE shows every nook and cranny of the inside of the bomb is stuffed with explosive: there's hardly room left for detonator circuitry.
The GBU-57 is likely effective when used for dynamite fishing a lake. It's the shock wave that kills the fish - and if you detonate the dynamite on the surface of the lake, it kills little. Most of the blast is directed upwards. That's the mode of operation for the "MOAB"; it simply lacks any conceivable means of penetrating earth. It will crumple on the surface and radiate the bulk of its explosive force out and up.
perhaps the journalists were prohibited from going near the site because of possible nuclear contamination or did not want to risk it themselves? Don't have any idea. I don't think this was made up. I live on Gulf Coast Florida not far from a huge air base. Three days ago I heard what I was sure were bombers and more than one flying overhead on a very overcast day so that I could not see what I was hearing.
In Ukraine it is forbidden to take pictures of fallen missiles, but such pictures are taken anyway.
(Photographs have revealed how "Russian missiles attacking apartment buildings" are old Soviet anti-air missiles sent up by Ukraine, many of which fail and fall to the ground. The Kiev government prefers to hit Russian missiles when they pass over cities, with the defenses stationed there, instead of letting the missiles proceed to military targets. Aside from failed anti-air missiles, debris from the successful hits also falls on buildings, which the media then claim are "Russian missiles targeting buildings." Photographs by civilians reveal this. But I digress!)
"disengage", I would also "like" to see the conflict close, but the sense I get from Ritter (and others [Orlov in particular with his tremendous sarcasm]) is, this isn't over until all Israelis have been forced back to being "just Jews" wandering the earth in search of meaning.
One must recall Finkelstein (a rare "self-respecting" Jew) and remember many Israelis will transform into "supremacist Jews". (Can an ex-Israeli be anything else?) Does that breed the "Woe-is-me"/"pity me" Jew? Conjuring a "Two-Face" (as in Batman) result. The one character flaw complements the other in an eternal Taoist Ying/Yang hell of self-doubt, self-pity, "I'm really not a wimp" aggression against the "uncaring world". Netanyahu -- the chameleon -- anyone?
Too bad there aren't more "well-adjusted" Jews like Blumenthal and Mate who put on their "ironman" suits and fight for "Truth, Justice and the American Way" (when "the American Way" was a noble pursuit)
There are many "tribes" of Jews who have done exactly as you suggest.
What's wrong with being "well-adjusted" and isn't putting on their ironman suit exactly "principled, vigorous advocates for peace"?
Yes Ritter often speaks forcefully. He's an emotional guy. He admits to it.
He would rather there not be war or conflict. What's wrong with yearning for peace. Stating that is his preference doesn't negate his other analysis.
The US won't be out of the empire business for a long, long time. Too many Americans still think elections matter. They think they see a difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
This interview with Barry Eisler talks about the "venn diagram" between the two parties. They differ violently on abortion to distract you from all that they agree on. The Democrats are now silent on war with the Republican in the White House, just as the Republicans were silent when it was occupied by Biden.
Looks like you are the guy waiting for the opening of the debutantes ball. And then when he was on stage and the music started, he had forgotten how to dance.
nice analogy, apparently Simplicius' information does that to some of its readers (myself included). however, it's corrobotated bigly by Michael Hudson (long read): "...The sound and fury of Trump’s missile attack on Iran’s most famous nuclear sites on June 21 turned out not to be the capstone of America’s conquest of the Middle East. But it did more than signify nothing [...] Iran for its part evidently was glad to cooperate with the public relations charade. The U.S. missiles seem to have landed on mutually agreed-upon sites that Iran had vacated for just such a diplomatic stand-down [...] By intervening on Israel’s side by supporting its genocide, the United States has turned most of the UN’s Global Majority against it..." - https://www.geopoliticaleconomy.report/p/michael-hudson-war-iran-us-unipolar-control
There are many questions here waiting to be answered.
a) We have seen 3 holes x 2 on Fordow and one on Natanz, but none at Isfahan.
I think it is possible that US nailed seven double taps with Fordow receiving 12 bombs and Natanz two.
b) Where did the 30 Tomahawks go? No damage visible on the surface at Fordow.
c) How can anyone trust anything coming from Israeli and US Gov mouths? Sounds stupid if US is deceiving the public but through backdoor channels inform the Iranians. I dont trust the backdoorchannel narrative - why should we believe in that?
d) US has warned Iran to give any sorts of answer risking american lives. Wouldnt it be fatal for the Iranian regime to only brush of some buildings on an empty american airbase in Iraq? That would show the World that Iran does not have the stamina to endure a War.
e) Why dont Iran attack Dimona and the five desalinations plants providing 50% of the freshwater to Israel? Are they afraid of Israeli destroying oil production (how that would be possible)?
Why sit and wait like Hamas and Hezbollah did and only speak about ”answers”?
If now Isreal is fed up on Fattah:s, why not feed them the rest?
If the war ends now, it will be a massive win for Israel/the US. They will have established that they can strike at Iran whenever they feel like wherever they feel like, and there will be no truly serious retaliation.
Which sets Iran for the same kind of death spiral that the initial "symbolic" strikes on Syria initiated back in the days.
Iraq was destroyed in a similar way too, if you remember -- in the 1990s there were the sanctions, but also regular bombings here and there, just like in Syria later on. Then the country eventually became a hollow shell that was easy to crack.
Right now they are rallying behind the flag in Iran, but if there is a shitty deal made to end the war without a clear victory, and chronic bombing becomes the norm, the mood will eventually shift to one of desperation and hopelessness. Exactly like in Syria.
On the other hand, it's good to have a severe pessimist around in the group, shouting from the wilderness. Not because he's right much, but because it shows the boundary of 'sanity' for the rest of us.
Calm down, he isn't gung-ho about people suffering. Ordinary Iranians are also discussing online whether their government should keep going or seek an end, and many say they should keep going despite how their own private economy suffers now.
You probably need to define what you mean by an Israel US win? The fact that the US can make a PR probably fake strike against Iran and Israel can control the Western Propaganda media with unverified narratives? You probably need to speak to someone from the region to really understand what happened in the region with Iraq. Then consider the geography of Syria compared to Iran and the fact that the Syria collapse project began in 2011 and took 12 years to complete. What has been made clear by the nervousness and promotion of US weaponry by the administration is the US MIC is losing customers. The decades long marketing program is failing and the facade of US military supremacy is losing its luster.
What are you smoking? Israel is up in smoke already! Win? You have apparently no realization of the panic going on in Israel since last week. They are desperate to be rescued or an excuse to quit without losing total face and deterrence. They gambled on a quick victory last week and the plan was that Iran was going to surrender after a surprise attack without firing a shot at Israel. They had no idea they were going to get pounded with no end in sight! Yeah, some “massive win for Israel/US”. Lol 😂 If massive win is Israel suffering such destruction in one week as it NEVER before combined in its entire history, then Iran would happily congratulate their delusional optimism. When was TelAviv ever bombed from the air? So, in their most advanced period, they have experienced what they never even fathomed! Talking about shocked! Looks like you’ve been listening to hasbara the whole time! But then, even the mayor of Haifa was begging for a peace treaty yesterday!
Zionists are not just supremacist sadists - they are stupid thugs who exposed their sadism and stupidity globally. This refers to Israeli and diaspora jews alike.
Okay, if you prefer to equate irrational and stupid! By that logic, Nazis were merely stupid as opposed to ideologically indoctrinated. Certainly in the effective and lethal conduct of wars, they were not stupid, but quite ingenious, clever, and rational in terms of achieving their aims for years. And, they almost did conquer all of Europe without any notion for anyone that they could be defeated! At least no one during WWII considered the Nazis particularly “stupid”! Maybe brutal and fanatical and deadly, but you can be sure not simplistically cast as stupid. In fact, it would’ve been pretty stupid and suicidal to have assumed they were stupid!
And with "Jewish Power" in Netanyahu's coalition, calls for ethnic cleansing that previously led to prosecutions in Israel are now discussed openly on Israeli TV.
Before, they let the "settlers" take land throughout the year, every year, but it doesn't seem like it was openly celebrated by most Israelis, just accepted. Now the fanaticism is everywhere. Anyone who'd complain would get to hear about "Hamas attack was like another Holocaust and they want to kill all Jews" again.
So he didn't know about how bad this war is for Israel. Why not just tell him that instead of talking about "what are you smoking" and so on? It's obvious from his post that he also opposes Israel's attack on Iran, just like you do.
Indeed, Iraq was bombed by Britain and the U.S. on average once a week for 12 years.
They destroyed power plants, so there'd be no air conditioning in the suffocating summer heat. They destroyed water refineries so people had to drink dirty water, causing disease and death, especially among children and the old.
When the Iraqis fired back at a plane in early 2000, Bush called it "an unforgivable aggression."
But this time, Iran has shown that they can also fire back. And they can keep going longer than Israel can. Both countries are lacking in air defenses, Israeli officials say their defenses will be depleted after about 12 days, but Iran can keep going. They have 90 million people and a lot of resources. They suffer from this war, people's private economy is ruined, but they can keep going. Netanyahu's coalition however, probably can't.
But the murders carried out, with the help of either the communist Mujahedin-e-Khalq terrorist group housed by the U.S. in Albania or by Farsi-speaking Afghans as many Iranians suspect, can't be forgiven. Iran should continue.
The elephant in the room is that Iran can’t escalate so far that Trump is forced to enter the conflict decisively. If they hit the desalination plants or Dimona that’s as high on the escalation ladder they can possibly go and would cause a mass uproar in the US even among the MAGA who would rather stay out of it. There are a lot of Americans and Russians basically captive in Israel right now. Iran doesn’t have to escalate that quickly and it would just play into Israel’s hands. Israel is done already and every move they make is a mistake. Why interrupt them as they make another and another and another.
We regular Americans seem to be wired to think in timeframes shorter than our “adversaries” so their patience is maddening. Russia, China, and Iran all play a longer game than we do, as do the Anglozionists in general. Israel is the one who needs to escalate, they’re the one whose population is about to revolt, they’re the one with an expiration date. The US has longer but also may ultimately need to escalate if the debt can cannot be kicked any further. Iran, China, and Russia only have to survive to win against those enemies, and they have far less to lose. The people there already know how to survive. Israel and the US are decadent societies totally unprepared for hardship, and there are soft targets everywhere. Power grid, nuclear plants, desalination, airports, logistics centers. These all run with just in time precision. There is no inventory or surplus of anything. One airline unable to move planes for a few hours ripples for days, look what happened with Heathrow. Last week my local grocery store was empty, literally empty of perishable products. I asked what was up and they said that their warehouse inventory system had an issue and they hadn’t had a delivery in a couple days. That’s how long it would take for total panic here.
So, are you suggesting that Iran should lower itself to the U.S. level of depravity? In any case, it’s not even necessary, as they are applying a severe butt-kicking to Israel without debasing themselves.
Iran forewarned Quatar of some fireworks with 14 short range missiles doing no harm at all. Iran is going down fast. Without a severe fight.
I didnt say Iran should do US/Israeli depraved things - just stop the water flowing. But they are not interested in winning any War. Their goal is to lose it without too much destruction in Iran. Its like a victim of bullying; hit me in the stomach but dont crush my teeth.
The EU admin support for unspeakable Israeli atrocities has exposed a lot of European compradors, leaving no hope for whitewashing. The liberal democracies are crushing due to internal moral rot
European governments do it on their own, not as satraps. How would they be satraps? Are they paid? No. Israel is worshipped because of the U.S. media and Hollywood declaring that Jews are sacred, and leftist media and school teachers in Europe have repeated "Holocaust!" for generations. To make Whites think they are evil for being White, so they'll accept mass immigration which is the only way the Social Democrats have won any national elections after the 1990s. In France, Britain, Germany and Sweden for example, the Left would have lost every national election in the 2000s and onward otherwise. So, Holocaust, ergo Jews can't be criticized. Ergo Israel is sacred and its enemies must be targeted.
Coincidence, only, that Jews dominate in the top Hollywood boardrooms and U.S. media, which all European media take their cues from. We won't see any Hollywood movie about the ethnic cleansing in Gaza. But we'll see even more Holocaust movies.
Watching the retarded astroturfing and conspiracy theories last weekend, it's easy to understand why even basic morality has been banished from US activities.
I think you're right. Iran seems to have the correct strategy, just like Russia with Ukraine. Stay on point and don't get distracted. Stay on point. Stay on point. When you have the winning position, the winning strategy, keep closing the vice and don't let up. Do not reaçt; do not get emotional. Your (losing) opponent will try to pull you off track, off strategy, with seemingly irrational tactics. But from their perspective the tactics are not irrational, because that's their only hope. Iran will defeat and destroy Israel if it just keeps chipping away at its infrastructure and economy and public morale in a war of attrition--nothing too dramatic in a short time frame. Keep the U.S. out. Keep the moral high ground and benefit from world opinion and support.
Assad's Syria was never that strong to begin with, and by the end it was a hollowed out state that collapsed almost without pressure. Iran is far stronger, and remember that the present regime was established by overthrowing the Shah--a revolutionary act supported by its people. They have gone on to develop missile systems unequaled in the region. Trump's latest attack has not changed that calculus at all.
All these narrative of long play and winning by simply surviving is a dangerous, and perhaps a sinister seed planted in the brains of us. Israel bombed Iran this night and they will continue whatever Netanyaho says on Television.
Why sit and be reduced to rubbles like Libya, Syria, Iraq?
Wreaking havoc in Israel would require a lot of resources from US to help them out. Maybe the C17 would fly water/food instead of missiles?
I agree that US would ”feel” forced to help Israel if things go bd for them. The feeling is secured by all kompromats Mossad have on them.
Follow the money. You need to always remember who controls the resources. Less and less of them are controlled by the West each year. Their debts rack up.because of this. They are desperate. Really desperate. Desperate enough to attack Iran. Are the Russians desperate? The Chinese? Not at all, they are on the ascendant. They ink more and more deals, build more railways, roads, ports, airports and other infrastructure. The West is in a deep crisis and the decline is inexorable. It's just the natural cycle, nothing unusual.
The Iranians hit the Jew hospital (probably as collateral damage) and most Americans laughed —- desalination would be even more fun. Let the Jew go back to wandering in the desert.
1. "Israel and the US are decadent societies totally unprepared for hardship, and there are soft targets everywhere. Power grid, nuclear plants, desalination, airports, logistics centers. These all run with just in time precision. There is no inventory or surplus of anything. One airline unable to move planes for a few hours ripples for days, look what happened with Heathrow. Last week my local grocery store was empty, literally empty of perishable products. I asked what was up and they said that their warehouse inventory system had an issue and they hadn’t had a delivery in a couple days. That’s how long it would take for total panic here."
This would require a far more proactive Iranian response. Right now Iran is hoping that maybe the Americans will just go away.
2. "If they hit the desalination plants or Dimona that’s as high on the escalation ladder they can possibly go and would cause a mass uproar in the US even among the MAGA who would rather stay out of it."
Please. Nobody cares what MAGA thinks. Certainly not Trump.
MAGA is first and foremost, a cult of personality. Emphasis on the word "cult". If Trump does it, then they are for it. Until Trump does something else. Then they are for that.
If Trump were to convert to Twelver Shiism, they'd make their daughters wear hijab.
I’m not talking only about Iran. There is one war - anglozionists vs the rest of the world, led be Iran, Russia, and China. All 3 are capable of sabotage at the level it would take to cause major disruptions anywhere in the world.
As far as MAGA goes, you underestimate how broad the movement actually is and also how tenuous its cohesion is at this point. If US soldiers start dying for Israel it’s over. Trump is walking a very fine line and it’s extremely frustrating to see all the lies come into focus so quickly and over something so central to why so many came off the political sidelines and voted for Trump. But at this point it’s still better than Kamala and that’s where we stand today.
I can tell you though, there are a lot of Russians who don't think their government is playing a long game, but simply reacts too little and too late, a number of times.
We Westerners never get to hear this, but Putin is actually the voice of moderation in the Russian government. He has held back often, frustrating politicians and commanders. (An example would be that he twice declared a truce in Ukraine that only slowed down the Russian military. For Christmas both times I think, or for Easter and Christmas.)
Also, Iran made two big mistakes. They turned down Russia's offer of a defense alliance, and they turned down the offer of Russians modernizing their air defenses and integrating them with Russian intelligence.
Things could have been very different.
But since the conservative revolution in Iran (funny how the GOP never mentions it was conservative) they have been strongly focused on independence. Because they were exploited by Britain in the past. Also, their history with Russia hasn't been that great. The Soviets invaded them in 1941 together with Britain, to funnel weapons, gold, fuel etc to Stalin. Iranians were slaughtered for this. The Soviets wanted to cut off part of northern Iran and take it for themselves, give it to their Azerbaijan "republic."
When the USSR withdrew they left behind armed communist groups in northern Iran, which caused problems for a long time.
Iranians today should realize that this is not today's Russia, but it's not often easy to forget such history. But above all, the main argument was about national independence.
It's too bad. A defense pact with Russia would probably have prevented all of this.
and the media. Let us count the ways our gov't and its lackeys in the media have lied to us: murders of JFK, RFK, and MLK; Gulf of Tonkin; 911; WMD's in Iraq; Syrian gas attacks; 4 years of Russiagate lies (when will the perpetrators of this fraud go to prison?); 5 years of covid lies; Ukraine lies.
If you had a friend who had lied to you as many times as gov't/media has lied to you, would you even be friends with him now? Would you listen to him and believe that this time he's telling the truth? That's what most Americans do when they watch legacy media. But they don't even say, "This time they're telling the truth" because that would be admitting they've been lied to. They just watch/hear what the media is telling them and accept it as true!
<<< Why dont Iran attack Dimona and the five desalinations plants providing 50% of the freshwater to Israel? Are they afraid of Israeli destroying oil production (how that would be possible)?
Why sit and wait like Hamas and Hezbollah did and only speak about ”answers”?
If now Isreal is fed up on Fattah:s, why not feed them the rest? >>>
ALL great, GOLDEN questions, unfortunately lacking answers.
I think that and the same in respect of russia and kiev - but a guy commenting up there ('dave's channel' ) says there's geneva convention and international law implications.
So perhaps that's it.
I wanted russia to announce a couple of weeks in advance for everyone to get out of Kiev and then shut down all water, sewage and power.
Apparently it's not something you can do.
Unless you are the usa or israel, of course. In which case that would be where you'd start.
If and to the extent that is the case, then the clerics are foolish, and Iran will be turned into a failed state as a result of their refusal to act like they had some sense when they had the chance.
"I think that and the same in respect of russia and kiev - but a guy commenting up there ('dave's channel' ) says there's geneva convention and international law implications."
So what? Law is meaningless. Enforcement is the only thing that matters.
That is hardly limited to the West. Anyway, when you are confronted with someone who will do Whatever It Takes to win, you can either respond in kind, or lose.
This assumes there is a winning position. That is not always so.
So his 'do whatever it takes' may amount to nothing in fact for there is nothing he can do.
And 'doing whatever it takes' in this aphorism or whatever it is clearly suggests doing something extreme one feels guilty about. But in fact in normal life 'whatever it takes' is often done, always done, without ever going near things one doesn't want to do.
So I find it difficult to make sense of the injunction or whatever it is. It basically seems to be a cloaked suggestion that you should always be ready to do what you would rather not do - or worse. Which I suppose in the end means always be ready to abandon your principles.
My perspective is that while the West remains a formidable adversary, it is undoubtedly on a downward trajectory. Crucially, one must look beyond isolated events and assess the broader picture. We are witnessing a comprehensive breakdown across key pillars of Western hegemony: the social contract, demographics, the financial system, and now, critically, its foundational military overmatch.
Geopolitically, the Gulf region is steadily shifting away from Western alignment, and similar trends are evident in the Far East. This centuries-old, belligerent, nuclear-armed bloc dominated the globe, but its position is eroding. Given this decline, it's imperative not to provoke desperate actions – a 'Samson option' or worse. Such recklessness is not unthinkable among Western elites, who are often insulated in secure facilities and whose apocalyptic fantasies, vividly portrayed in their science fiction, reveal troubling mindsets.
Furthermore, attempting to block Gulf oil would disproportionately harm the industrial engines of China and the emerging multipolar world, potentially more than it would damage America. The bottom line is: the West's decline is inevitable. The wisest course is to let this decline unfold naturally, avoiding any actions that might inadvertently pull one along or trigger catastrophic reactions.
"Furthermore, attempting to block Gulf oil would disproportionately harm the industrial engines of China and the emerging multipolar world, potentially more than it would damage America. "
China will not be getting Iranian oil, regardless of what happens in the Straits of Hormuz, because the United States and Israel will attack Iranian oil installations.
Indeed, as always details emerge later that puncture the establishment's narrative.
But by then the media have had their propaganda campaign, and the sheep get to clap and shout "Israel! Israel!" or "USA! USA!". They won't check what comes days later.
Many know things always turn out to be different. But if you say that right away you are a "sore loser."
The overlords create conditions that pit us against one another and profit from both sides.
Such oligarchs may conflict with one another, but they're all in the same club.
You think BRICS is any different than the Empire? It's all the same.
BRICS supports the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Developments rule-based order?
BRICS supports “global governance” and “the central role of the United Nations in the international system”.
BRICS supports the leading role of the IMF in global finance
BRICS supports public-private parStrengthening Multilateralism for Just Global Development and Security vs Building a Just World and a Sustainable Partnerships to help nations achieve their Sustainable Development Goals.
BRICS supports the reduction and removal of greenhouse gases to combat climate change.
BRICS supports the creation of carbon markets.
BRICS supports the World Health Organization and its “central coordinating role” in strengthening “the international pandemic prevention, preparedness and response system”.
BRICS supports the development of vaccines.
BRICS supports “digital transformation” using 5G and other "emerging technologies”.
Russia's oligarchs have dual citizenship with Israel, just like the US does.
The scamdemic was a global event with all countries pushing the toxic slide.
The only three world leaders who opposed the vaccine were liquidated.
Welcome to the New World Order and its One World Government.
First, it is not even a clear opposition to the empire. And it needs to present as an unified resistance front to have a chance.
But second and more important, you cannot be an opposition to the empire and capitalist in the same time. It just doesn't work. Because if you are capitalist, then everything is for sale, including people's loyalties, so the Empire will subvert you and divide you, as it controls the money supply and it also presents a better deal to local elites (be a vassal and hand over your country to us in exchange for freely looting locally under our protection) than the alternative (which would necessitate local elites curtailing some of their consumption so that investment into local development can take place). For the people it is the inverse of course -- the latter deal is much better -- but they don't make the decisions.
The USSR was a real alternative because it was anti-capitalist. And it fell apart precisely when the local elites decided to make that treasonous deal with the West.
Do the BRICS have any intention of being anti-capitalist? Absolutely not. Not even China. And Russia is still a Yeltsinite-lite oligarhic neoliberal shithole in that regard.
You may have heard the likes of Pepe Escobar gushing about how many deals were made at the SPIEF and how many businessmen were there. Nothing could be more cringeworthy given the context -- the Russian strategic aviation was covertly attacked with the intention of completely annihilating it, then Iran was attacked directly and openly, and what did Russian leadership do in response? Absolutely nothing, it instead went to the SPIEF to make deals (that, as usual, benefit primarily the local oligarchy). Putin hasn't even commented on what happened, let alone punish those who attacked the strategic nuclear forces.
With that kind of leadership Russia is doomed. And BRICS is just a clown show.
Depends what you think BRICS is. You have your own ideas, and then when they dont meet them they are deemed a failure. What is BRICS is not focused on opposing the Empire but to let like mi ded countries trade on their own terms. Everything isnt about the US, this will become clearer as time passes.
Wow! That's it? Jewish elite really rule the world now and we have unknowingly become slaves? Russia, China, Iran, North Korea are really just proxies, all of them in on the game? The entire world is ruled secretly by these people? Is that really where we are?
I had doubts, too, Victor. I think it's more than the Zio-Elites, but the evidence is too overwhelming, the deeper you dig down the rabbit hole, all humanity faces a common threat from these narcissistic psycho-sociopathic overlords. People are too caught up in the matrix to be able to free their minds to think outside of it. It's a bitter pill to swallow.
No, I'm referring to the specific statements regarding 'jewish law treatment of gentiles' and 'original text'. I want to see that text. I am not interested in commencing a course of study.
The relevant passage of that link is 'European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen recently stated that “Europe holds the values of the Talmud,” referring to the central text of Rabbinic Judaism, which emphasizes principles such as justice, personal responsibility, and solidarity.' She is just saying that the EU holds the same views on those topics. I think she is lying, but that is a different issue. She isn't saying anything about other passages in the Talmud.
One can have doubts…and those countries are not proxies. And they are not governed by the chosen people either. But dont you think Kim would strike a deal with Trump? He is also a criminal.
China is a godless land and they will eventually rule us as all as the chinese rule in countries/cities they have control or dominance in. It is more subtle but still a ruling.
Maybe you are making the same mistake as most westerners when you bring "values" into the equation. When we speak of NK being 'criminal' or China seeking 'rule over the world', we are engaging in just the kind of rhetoric that the US and its allies rely on.
China, especially, is a unique example of a country developing a system of government and an economy that is simply superior to anything we have. We boast of 'democracy' and 'freedom' but live the opposite. Theirs is a system built on local democracy (at the regional level) but getting more centralised and authoritative towards the top. And at all levels they fill highly competitive positions with people who are thoroughly trained in the necessary skills for those positions even to the top. In the Chinese system there is little room for the psychopath and genocidal maniac as is represented by the Western/israeli system. They have their problems like any country (corruption, criminality, etc), but the Chinese are not an unhappy people, unlike us - and there are good reasons for that.
I read and learn a lot of Chinese culture and politics. They have no politics only power fractions. It is a one force rules all. They have corruption but they sure kill them when they find out.
Their system is better than ours but not with stains and faults.
And values for me is important. Chinese are materialistic and shallow according to my measurements. Most people are unfortunately.
Really? I find the Chinese to be highly intelligent, hard working and possessed with deep cultural values dating back thousands of years. Most Chinese I know are delightful people and very patriotic to their motherland.
Re "materialistic" - no civilization is more materialistic and value-less than the American capitalist system, which enshrined greed as god and profit as sacred. I have this strange inkling that perhaps you don't know much about either China or Chinese, much less about their history.
As for the values of "America" - well we just see them supporting a genocidal state that's committing the worst atrocities we've seen in lo 40 years, as well as electing "presidents" using a mostly ignorant voter base (30% of adults in the US are functionally illiterate per a recent poll - reading at a sixth grade level at best and incapable of doing simple arithmetic. These adults vote of course, based on whatever advertisement they see on TV).. We went from a dementia ridden barely functional guy pretending to be "president" to something of a clown act masquerading as a governance system.
But even you cannot claim the Chinese fail to put smart and capable people at the top.
I was triggered by your claim ascribing "values" to Americans, known mostly for their consumerism. It's a n interesting case of projection you make when you ascribe Power politics to China, when the current white house occupant slogs through every day making those "me most powerful" pronouncements. Really, now...
I didnt ascribe values to Americans. I am not american at all. I wrote about chinese system and the topic of BRICS being a better alternative.
US is greedy and capitalistic in almost an obsessed way. Isnt it strange that Russia and China is striving to be ”better” than US by copying all the materialistics? High rises, neon, shopping malls…all working and running to be richer than the neighbour…
Being intelligent and efficient isnt the same as being a good person or a good society.
Good reply. Not that it'll convince the ones who have been permanently captured by the Yellow Peril propaganda. Nothing will change their minds that Cowboy must beat Chinaman. It's like a mantra of sorts, and long ago I found out that logic doesn't work with either red scares or Yellow Perils. Somehow many Americans always feel they are under threat (may be because they are doing the threatening?).
We in the West, like the Jews who have disproportionate impact on Western culture, have been raised from birth in fear of a world against us and we must always be alert to fight that 'evil' wherever it raises its head.
That's what is meant by the 'wages of sin"...oops ...wages of being an Empire. When you are one by definition everything around you is perceived as threat.
Heavy is the crown, said the king....
That, while the beggar danced away hauling his nightly stash....
The term “Islamophobia” was popularized in the late 20th century by Islamist groups (Muslim Brotherhood) and their Western allies to silence criticism of Islam and shield the religion from scrutiny. It emerged as a political tool to frame any opposition to Islamic doctrines, immigration policies, or Sharia law as irrational “fear” or “bigotry.”
The Runnymede Trust, a left-wing British think tank, played a key role in mainstreaming the term in 1997 with their report Islamophobia: A Challenge for Us All. Since then, it has been weaponized to suppress free speech, particularly in Europe and North America, where honest discussions about Islamic extremism, mass migration, and cultural conflicts are often smeared as “hate.”
The term itself is deceptive—it conflates legitimate concerns about jihadist violence, gender apartheid under Sharia, and the erosion of Western values with baseless prejudice. Critics argue that “Islamophobia” is a manufactured concept designed to bully dissenting voices into silence while enabling the unchecked spread of radical Islam.
Don't applaud China so much. Their "superior system of government and economy" == A hive / swarm-driven total obedience (slave mentality) on top which communism can be naturally impregnated and affixed.
For the last two Milleniae geopolitical conflicts have been tainted with 'values' derived from the Bible according to belief, be that from Jewish, Christian or Muslim perspectives. A never ending source of conflict matter.
China is the only country not deriving their values from the Bible.
My bet is that this will eventually give them a decisive historical advantage.
Religions are generally not a source of conflicts and oppression, but instead a tool utilised by those who lust after power and money. Don't blame the tool as it can also be used for peace, mercy, righteous living and as a shield from the terrors of this world.
I make a clear distinction btw. religion in general and biblical worshipping in particular. The latter has evolved into an incessant desire for power and money disregarding metaphysical and eternal spiritual values.
I had India on my mind when I wrote the comment but India is currently not a major player in (resolving) the conflict in the sense that they keep a low profile: "The Modi Government has unequivocally neither criticised nor condemned the US bombing and Israel's aggression, bombings and targeted assassinations," he posted on X. He said it has also maintained a "deafening silence" on the "genocide" being perpetrated on the Palestinians in Gaza.
Re Chinese being happy. Well, "not unhappy," yeah. Depends who you talk to I guess. I was there in April. The young people are either unemployed (some, "laying back" tang-ping, dropped out) or desperately seeking advancement. There's a word in China now, nei-juan, translated as "involution." It means competing beyond expectation of improvement, competing in a situation of diminishing returns. That's the word many of them use to describe to own society. For working people, for many that's 9-9-6, working 9am to 9pm six days a week. Common enough there's a term for it. So "not unhappy," yeah, maybe they can buy some stuff their grandparents couldn't have dreamt of... but it's "godless" maybe in the AA sense of "Good Orderly Direction" God, meaning, a life that makes some kind of sense. I get the feeling that may lacking for a lack of them, since traditional values and traditional communist values are all receding in the rear-view mirror. Of their new electric car.
Chinese state is atheist. The communist party believes in itselfs.
The state recognizes five religions: Buddhism, Catholicism, Daoism, Islam, and Protestantism. The practice of any other faith is formally prohibited.
Chinese are acting ”godless” in business and ordinary life. They skin dogs alive, eat animals alive. People in Asia under ”chinese” business rule call them the J*ws of Asia. They only act in self-interest and long term benefits.
US is full of churchs and worshippers but equally godless, as most of western countries.
The renowned Russian Orthodox church is also compromised, although the Russian state protects childs from the Homo-globo agenda. Russian people was destroyed by 80 year of communism. They are materialistic and consume more than they need if they have money.
You find ”godfull” people here and there but all in all we live in a godless world.
That's good, to make a statement about what god is. Because that's the whole problem. 'god' is just a word and it has a different meaning with virtually everyone that uses it. in fact most people use without giving a thought as to what they really mean by it.
When someone tells you what god is or isn't it is pointless to argue with them. You'r arguing at cross purposes. What's really happening is they are describing their god ( whether they believe it exists or they believe it doesn't exist) and you are describing yours.
Hence virtually all discussion is rubbish. Most especially such as by the most 'learned' and intellectual.
I accept the definitions and descriptions given to me by NDE people.
"The renowned Russian Orthodox church is also compromised, although the Russian state protects childs from the Homo-globo agenda"
This is why Christ fags are mental defects. Russia is a single mother waste land, full of abortion and child abuse. (Most child abuse is done by single mothers.)
You just hate gays. Far more harm is done to kids by women than gays.
Also most underage transitions are enforced by narcissistic mothers, no one does anything to stop them. Let all lizard brained right wingers, you deflect blame from women to gays and other groups.
The Russia legal system puts drugs addicts in the same area with other drug addicts and lets them share needles to kill them. Is that Christian?
I support Russia against NATO aggression, but it is not a nice country.
Unless no fault divorce is banned, family court reformed, abortion are outlawed, and feminism tackled in a country, no Christ fag is in a position to mouth off.
We cannot improve the world in a collective sense if we refuse to look in the mirror and improve ourselves as individuals. Read Tito Colliander’s short book “The Way of the Ascetics”.
This is the fatal flaw of communism. It strips out the mechanism to improve the foundation of society and attempts to build utopia using flawed bricks which requires mandating obedience through force. But even if that force can line the bricks up and stack them on each other, it cannot change their nature.
Godly American people are the most hostile violent, arrogant, judgemental non Christian people to ever exist. So I call them Christ fags.
How many Christ fags join the US military, and worship the false idol of the American flag? American Christ fags support Zionism as well, so they support violence.
How many Christ fags have proclaimed support for family values, while support no fault divorce, and a family court system that have broken up millions of families and spread single motherhood?
How many divorce Christ fags get remarried again, so committed fornication by their own rules? (If you talk to real trad Christians they rule out state marriage completely, as it is linked to no fault divorce. Since the Average Christian male is a unprincipled loser, they ignore this.)
How many Christ fags support right wing economics, completely in contradiction to Christian ideals?
How many Christ Fags circumcise their baby boys, even though that is anti Christian?
So I got zero patience for American Christ fags who look down on non Christians. I know their religion better than them.
Totally untrue. China has a far higher birth rate than many countries. Less the 1 child per woman is unheard of in any country, perhaps with the exception of during wars or famines.
Demographics is an issue in much of the world. Singling out China just shows how little the commentor knows about the issue. Cheap propaganda that is patently lies needs to be called out. It's not like it's even close to believable.
Taiwan is one of the worst. Perhaps that is the China he was talking about. Eastern Europe is also seriously affected. The difference is in China it was government policy. Most other places it's due to financial and social constraints.
I doubt that I could name one that you would accept. But if you push me to the wall, then I would have to name Putin, Xi, Kim Jong-Un and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
So you just mentioned BRICS leaders who all promote an agenda counter to the good will of their citizens, as I listed above in Welcome to the New World Order. Kim Jung Un is the world's most oppressive leader to his people.
Where do you think we are? All destiny shalt lead to eternal darkness and despair, as is proven by the many disasters we have faced throughout this history,
The New World Order is eternal. Suicide is our only respite.
Nihilism is a philosophy that is its own punishment. If the victory of "the dark" was inevitable, they would not be trying so desperately to cling to power.
Desperate (and increasingly foolish actions) are not the moves of an entity confident in its ability to remain in power.
Knowledge banishes ignorance, so too does letting your own internal light scatter the darkness.
Knowing that you are far from alone, that we are far from weak, that the dark inevitably runs screaming into the void within void...
Despair will gain you nothing. And we are all here...because there is a job to do. You know if you are doing it, and nobody else needs to tell you that.
China that has lifted 820 million out of poverty into the middle class. Putin saved his people from an economy broken by its own system and then devastated by European and American oligarchs. What kind of system would you recommend?
There is still a difference between "We are slaves" and "They would like to enslave us". I prefer the latter, don't you? The old Jewish families are trying their best to capture and imprison the world but it is all falling apart in their hands like wet cardboard. I refuse to believe that Russia, China, NK and Iran are part of that plan. I believe these countries are the true stick in the spokes that will eventually upend these satanists and lead them to self-destruction.
Your comment is like a spear into the heart - impossible to avoid and heartbreaking to realize if you didnt know before that BRICS is more of the same.
Maybe. But I'm not yet convinced as I see BRICS as an alternative universe being opened. What I mean by that is that BRICS is indeed supporting many of the concepts listed by Denis but if you look further, they are supporting not the current version of these but their own version. For example, they want the UN to be stronger but not dominated by the same Washington. They want the WHO to be reformed and not dominated by the likes of Bill Gates and Big Pharma.
The principles behind these organisations have always been valid, but unfortunately corrupted by powerful forces behind the scenes. BRICS wants to keep them but remove the corruption.
I dont think your are naive Victor but there is an amount of wishful thinking there. BRICS supporting the climate scam is unforgivable. Thinking the all corrupt UN, WHO and IMF will secure a peaceful prosperous world is not, i will say it mildy, realistic. You will have to hang them all, so to speak.
Having russian oligarchs, chines triads or african cannibals leading alternatives is not my choice for a better world.
If there is a global warming or cooling it is not man made. The CO2 rise is man made and thank God we made it. We had 230ppm in the 1870 when there was bad harvest all over Europe. The red line for vegetation is about 180ppm CO2 (you know green leaves eat CO2?). In a green house they push in CO2 at levels about 2000ppm.
We are at the 428ppm level and what we have seen the last 30 years is that vegetation is increasing. Very good.
The warming is all natural. Do we need another Ice ageP
Agreed. Can't fix a problem with the same consciousness that created it, and all that. Ain't nothing changing in any meaningful way until Treta yuga, some millennia away. Sure, things may ease up over the centuries, but the dynamic is pretty constant here on Earth. Even the Atlanteans destroyed themselves... : )
Part of the problem with truth seeking, Mikey, is that one doesn't like what one finds there, but at least there is clarity in knowing how the world operates and what's coming down the pipeline and prepare how best to weather the storm.
If you don't know that, then you weren't paying attention at the onset of the global plandemic genocide. It still continues.
Of course, the ultimate sanction, paid by five national presidents so far in this current context, is assassination. See ‘Five Presidents Who Opposed Covid Vaccines Have Conveniently Died, Been Replaced by Pro-Vaxxers’.
And Emanuel Pastreich makes a compelling argument that Shinzo Abe, the powerful immediate-past Prime Minister of Japan, suffered the same fate because of his ongoing resistance to fundamental elements of the Elite agenda. Moreover, there are other key political figures who are probably in this category, not to mention those sidelined rather than assassinated.
Abe was the highest ranking victim so far of the hidden cancer eating away at governance in nation states around the world, an institutional sickness that moves decision making away from national governments to a network of privately-held supercomputer banks, private equity groups, for-hire intelligence firms in Tel Aviv, London and Reston, and the strategic thinkers employed by the billionaires at the World Economic Forum, NATO, the World Bank and other such awesome institutions.
In parallel with the removal or sidelining of non-compliant leaders, elite wealth has long been deployed ‘to create invisible networks for secret global governance, best represented by the World Economic Forum’s Young Global Leaders program and the Schwarzman Scholars program. These rising figures in policy infiltrate the governments, the industries, and research institutions of nations to make sure that the globalist agenda goes forth unimpeded.’ See ‘The Assassination of Archduke Shinzo Abe: When the Globalists Crossed the Rubicon’.
As a result of formal political submission to the elite agenda, supposedly basic human rights – such as freedom of speech, assembly and movement – have been eviscerated under the various lockdown, curfew and martial law measures with many people attempting to exercise these rights quickly discovering that they no longer exist except, perhaps, in the very narrowest of circles or in particular contexts.
But perhaps constitutional lawyer John W. Whitehead, in collaboration with Nisha Whitehead, captures the true depth of what has transpired in these two paragraphs about the United States but equally applicable to other countries:
Not only have the federal and state governments unraveled the constitutional fabric of the nation with lockdown mandates that sent the economy into a tailspin and wrought havoc with our liberties, but they have almost persuaded the citizenry to depend on the government for financial handouts, medical intervention, protection and sustenance.
This past year under lockdown was a lesson in many things, but most of all, it was a lesson in how to indoctrinate a populace to love and obey Big Brother. See ‘After a Year Under Lockdown, Will Our Freedoms Survive the Tyranny of COVID-19?’
But ‘Big Brother’ isn’t the government. It is those elite figures who are largely, or completely, hidden from public view and about whom you hear nothing of substance, if you hear anything at all.
Still, this doesn’t stop their agents, such as those in the Council for Inclusive Capitalism, from telling you what they are doing. It’s just that not many people are paying attention.
As noted by Brandon Smith: ‘Members of the CIC, including the head of Bank of America, openly suggest that they don’t actually need governments to cooperate in order to meet their goals. They say corporations can implement most social engineering without political aid. In other words, it is the very definition of “shadow government” – A massive corporate cabal that works in tandem to implement social changes without any oversight.’ See ‘What Is The “Council For Inclusive Capitalism?” It’s The New World Order’.
If you still believe that we can get out of this mess by lobbying governments or electing a different political party into government, you can read more on how the world really works in ‘Killing Democracy Once and for All: The Global Elite’s Coup d’état That Is Destroying Life as We Know It’.
Indeed, even that pro-active German lawyer, I forget his name, who tried to take the whole thing to court, still languishes in prison on trumped-up, Assange-like charges. Enough said.
Yes, that's the chap - thank you. I do salute his bravery, and he should not be forgotten... Even at the time, you knew it wasn't going to end well for him. But he lives his dharma.
Legislatures were eclipsed by the executive more than a century ago but that was because representation in legislatures came to incorporate the working class. It couldn't have happened had the legislatures opposed it.
Not sure your framing holds up, or at least, it risks romanticising what was, in reality, a deeply cynical calculus by the ruling classes. If anything, the eclipse of legislatures by executive power began nearly two centuries ago, not one. The 1840s are a more accurate benchmark, when industrialisation, enclosure, and the systematic dismantling of common law liberties produced not inclusion, but insurrection.
In the Uk for example: the Enclosure Acts tore ancestral rights from the commons, industrialisation herded the working class into slums, and the legal system, once rooted in community memory, became a mechanism of extraction. The result wasn’t political empowerment but sabotage, protest, and open rebellion. Toll gates and tax posts were smashed; infrastructure was deliberately targeted. The state had declared war on its own people in everything but name.
Even the Gordon Riots of 1780, usually remembered as sectarian, were symptomatic of a deeper malaise. A crowd, incited by Catholic aristocrats, burned Newgate Prison to the ground and attacked magistrates’ homes. London suffered more physical destruction in ten days than Paris did across the entire French Revolution. The message was clear: the people were done asking politely.
And what was the establishment’s response? Certainly not a benevolent opening of the democratic process. When the vote was extended, it was done with surgical precision, not to uplift the working class, but to absorb the middle class and neutralise them. The 1832 Reform Act lowered property qualifications just enough to enfranchise the aspirational merchant and professional classes. In other words: a velvet bribe. The ruling elite widened the tent to avoid being torn down.
This wasn't some organic incorporation of the working class. It was a containment strategy — a recalibration of power disguised as progress. Legislatures didn’t oppose this shift; they engineered it. Because the true aim was never representation, it was preservation.
I know the history but as I wrote, the castration of legislatures reflected the extension of the franchise. Lloyd George took a big step by expanding the Cabinet Office during the Great War. In France, governments of the Third Republic didn't last many months on average yet the French state and society didn't collapse, suggestive of government taking place elsewhere. The 1840s are too early, governments weren't comprehensive enough to do it for another fifty or sixty years. Look at the 1867 and 1884 Reform acts.
I hear you, and you’re not wrong about the late 19th and early 20th centuries; the 1867 and 1884 Reform Acts, the growth of the Cabinet Office, and wartime centralisation under Lloyd George were all major moves. But I’d argue these were not the beginning of the process, but its consolidation.
The decisive shift came earlier, not through bureaucratic capacity alone, but through structural repositioning of power and narrative. By the mid-19th century, the executive had already begun bypassing popular will by neutralising its most threatening forms of dissent. The working class wasn’t so much “incorporated” as it was outflanked.
The extension of the franchise, far from being a moment of empowerment, was a containment strategy, a way to bring the aspirant middle classes into the fold once the truly radical voices had been crushed, bought off, or outmanoeuvred. Parliament remained, but its oppositional function had been hollowed out. You could vote, but only within a framework designed to perpetuate existing power.
And yes, by the time of the Great War, the Cabinet Office simply made visible what had long been happening: the movement of real power away from public view, not just into the executive, but into unelected networks: finance, colonial administration, private interests. What we’re now seeing - with corporate capture, technocratic governance, and “shadow” institutions- is just the logical endgame of a trajectory that began with enclosure, empire, and the industrialisation of society itself.
So I don’t think it’s enough to say the legislature was “castrated” because of the franchise. I’d argue the reverse: the franchise was extended because the legislature had already been castrated.
There were two responses I read. One was basically, you can't expect things to change all at once. Another was, the principles of these organizations are maybe sound, but the actors and the actual processes to date have been rotten. So maybe changing the actors might change some reasons.
Anyway I'll ask you back, would you agree all this some kind of evolution? Or not? If yes, then presumably we can expect both gradual and quantum changes, where both kinds are actually unpredictable aren't they? In which case we don't really know what to expect...? In the long run or the short run, anything's possible. Maybe theoretically, but still.
If no, then human life is hopeless and your despair at the current situation is kind of.... banal? Or theatrical? Given that if this world isn't in a state of evolution then every moment of our entire human history has been hopeless, with this moment no more or less so than any other moment. Logically, wouldn't that be true?
Not that I'm optimistic per se. But pessimistic, I don't know about that either actually.
Who are the three leaders that they offed for opposing vaccine?
US and Europe want their billionaires ruling the world as they have for 500 years. (rules based intl order) While BRICS wants their billionaires to enjoy their own rent seeking in full lol. UN based intl order with more members like India and continental Africa on UN sec council. That's about the only difference.
There will be no such thing, the Yids wont even keep their global banking monopoly, let alone govern the world. Preposterous nonsense from an arrogant and delusional group
Not exactly.. BRICS+ does not compel any member to comply with any rules formula like the EU, UN, etc... It has no secretariat that is a watchdog or a controlling mechanism.. Well and good if this stays so.. Take for instance India.. It is the founding member but has not relinquished autonomy to do as she wishes..
The BRICS are largely focused on materially improving life for all their population.
The western colonialists are focused on war, theft and mass murder to benefit their 0.1% richest oligarchs. Hunger and poverty and homelessness is growing in the west...while stock market and total wealth of their rich rises. Top 1% owns 50% of wealth, according to latest research by the bank UBS.
Capitalism's potential for failure is enhanced when money can be printed out of thin air and those closest to its first use (Cantillon Effect) benefit the most. Fractional reserve banking, creates unbacked fiat currency through debt to buy politicians who in turn write favorable laws for corporations and banks. After all, a politician must be able to pay for the things that he promises if he is to get re-elected. This is the start of fascism, the duopoly of control by corporations and the government, now called corporatism. The Jews understand this very well.
>There are various reports going around that through the usual Swiss back channels Trump’s administration essentially informed Iran of the strikes, implying that as long as Iran does not respond it will be a ‘one-off’ attack.
Which would be a grave mistake by Iran. Because:
>This is not Trump’s first time: recall the infamous 2017 Tomahawk attack on Syria’s Shayrat base which was billed as some kind of ‘devastating’ deathblow, when it turned out to be a show-strike nothingburger which left a few potholes on the runway and did no real damage. This is Trump’s way of alleviating neocon pressure—a sort of purity test for his Israeli handlers.
Yes, and what happened eventually? Syria was bombed relentlessly by Israel for years after that, was hollowed out by the combination of those strikes and sanctions, and eventually collapsed. Which is what will happen here if a firm "no more" line in the sand is not drawn.
But if Iran agreed on symbolic strikes, it has now opened itself up for that kind of death spiral to commence.
>Now, there are rumors that Israel may use the given ‘off-ramp’ as pretense to likewise conclude a new deal and end hostilities, given that Israel has exhausted itself and is now losing a war of attrition against Iran.
Then the war will end in Israeli victory. They will have established that they can strike Iran whenever they feel like, at very sensitive targets too, the US can also do it, and there will be no consequences.
The only way Iran emerges out of this on a somewhat good future trajectory is if it demonstrates working thermonuclear warheads plus ICBMs in the next weeks to months.
In fact, if they have working ICBMs (rumors are that they do), they should fire one of those at Whiteman AFB to take out a few B-2s with conventional MaRVs. The B-2s sit in hangars that are nice fixed targets. Then do an underground nuclear test simultaneously. But they don't have the balls to do it.
GM, let me be the first to say you're right on a lot of stuff but I think you do get carried away a little.
For example, instead of using nukes, Russia could simply sink one or two US aircraft carriers. They seem to know how to quite well. If they didn't want to get their hands dirty, they could give those missiles to the Houthis, similar to how NATO arms Ukraine to attack Russia.
How would the loss of a few aircraft carriers temper the mood in Washington?
>For example, instead of using nukes, Russia could simply sink one or two US aircraft carriers
I didn't mention using nukes in this particular post at all.
And yes, Russia should have sunk air craft carriers.
When the Moskva was sunk, that was mandatory reaction.
Sink one of the two UK carriers (because it was the British who sunk the Moskva) as a punishment for the Moskva.
Then sink the other one too as a punishment for starting it.
Then declare that we are even unless there are further provocations. Should have been done by the end of April 2022. It wasn't, and you see where we are now.
>How would the loss of a few aircraft carriers temper the mood in Washington?
It's not so much the loss of the aircraft, though that will definitely hurt. It is the fact that the aircraft participated in the attack, and so destroying them is proper retaliation.
But more importantly, sending an ICBM with MaRVs from Iran to hit those hangars in Missouri while doing a public nuclear test at the same time will establish deterrence. By doing that Iran will show that:
1) It has nukes
2) It has the capability to deliver them to the CONUS (extremely important -- if it just had nukes but no intercontinental delivery systems, Iran would be wide open to a US firt strike)
3) It has the resolve to strike at the CONUS.
So next time the US carries out an attack of any kind, NYC and the SF Bay Area will be gone, thus the US will never dare, just as it dares not touch North Korea.
No, the US has behaved in a very logical and rational way.
They do things that look insane because the expectation is that there would be a harsh reaction.
But there never is, so they keep doing them. Which is very much rational.
The way out of this is to break their "we can get away with this too because our enemies are cowards and/or internally compromised" calculations by reacting harshly and directly against them
Russia and China have become complacent. Especially Russia, given many many opportunities to give a serious response to the west, yet it keeps the operation theatre in Ukraine, bombing the shit out of it like there's no tomorrow. You sound more like Brian Berlitic. Anyhow I have given up on Russia, the smo has proven that they are very weak and scared to hit the 'real' decision centers. Zelensky is irrelevant. Although he is a good skilled begger.
I agree something must be done to break their mentality of always getting away. That goes for Israel too.
What I mean is that when we do your ”lesson” in Whiteman AFB there will not be any logical and rational thinking in US. Pure spine and reptile brain-signals. They wouldnt understand the teaching as you and I understands the logic behind.
The recent developments in Iran seem to have upped the credibility of GM's rationale around here? I picture Jack Nicholson growling that "YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUUUUUUTH!!!"
Syria also didn’t strike targets like the Israeli stock exchange in downtown Tel Aviv. Also, “not responding” doesn’t mean Iran won’t continue its shooting war with Israel, and in fact it’s being reported that Iran has vowed to punish Israel for the US strikes, which certainly gives credence to the theory that the attacks were a scripted event to give the US a convenient exit.
As far as the resistance is concerned has anything played out as stated by altmedia the player concerned or has there only been underperformance or acquiescence or closer capitulation to Isreal. Why should Iran stand-up this time and be different.
I don’t think so, they just need to keep the pressure on Israel a little at a time. It’s Iran that has shown that they can hit any target in Israel and Israel has no mountains, nowhere to retreat to, and relies on a set of extremely soft targets for survival. There are plenty of rungs left in the escalation ladder. Going too big now gives the US a reason to escalate. Time is on their side. Israel burned a huge amount on intel and spies for this latest failed regime change gambit. Iran is a huge country with massive resources and potential. They only have to survive to win. Israel may “win” in the global media that they control but it’s totally hollow as long as Iran’s technological progress and alliances with China and Russia continue. Iran didn’t want to enter a military alliance with Russia before this little dust up. If they change their minds it’s game over for Israel. China and Russia haven’t entered because they don’t need to. If Iran is really losing they will. Syria was expendable. Lebanon as well but something tells me we haven’t heard the last of hizbullah. Israel will continue to act with impunity so long as the US is behind them but that has an expiration date too, look at the polls of young people in the US. Someday there will be an administration in the US that will hang them out to dry. They may decide to nuke somebody out of desperation but that will truly be the end. There is almost no sympathy left for them. They have burned almost every bridge and they keep on going because they have no other option. That’s an exhausting trajectory for a nation when forward progress requires atrocity after atrocity. They will never be able to stop and that’s why they have failed comprehensively. They just don’t know it yet because they’re on a hamster wheel.
The eventual loss of U.S. being it's major enabler might spell the end of the Zionist Occupation Regime in Palestine.
In the meanwhile, an increasing number of European and Asian nations are barring Israeli tourists from their countries owing to their shitty behavior compounding the pre-existing hostility due to the Gaza genocide and the bellicose actions against all their neighbors.
Looks like the backlash against those Israeli asshole soccer fans in Holland which provoked the anger from both the Dutchmen and the Muslims from late last year was just a harbinger of them becoming a pariah state worldwide.
When *hasn't* the "leadership" in the US talked about regime change? But Francisco's point about the changing attitude toward Israel in the US, especially among the younger cohort, is right. As is polling that shows the overwhelming majority of Americans against war with Iran, which is the only way regime change can be realistically effected.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
And he's right for the most part, there will be some (and already are) who suck it down like babies suck down pablum but I don't think it will be as easy a sell as it was in the past.
A whole lot of water has passed under the bridge over the past 5 years what with the covid lockdowns and mandates and the resulting economic devastation. Coupled with the whole DEI push, including in the military, where white males - already castigated as "deplorables" by Hillary and her ilk - were effectively treated like second class citizens. I mean, when you have veterans for whom military service has been a family tradition for generations telling their sons and daughters not to join the service, you have a serious problem.
People are struggling to keep their families' heads above water financially at home. It's true that some people enlist for financial reasons but I don't think that will save the day for the warmongers this time around. It's not just the steady pay, it's the medical benefits and have you heard any praiseworthy stories about the VA lately? I can't recall that I have. And another incentive, a college degree, is being increasingly seen as very expensive but useless when it comes to job prospects.
I could be wrong but the only thing I see that might get people on board with going to war is a false flag. A lot of people are prophesying that there will be one and I wouldn't lay odds because it's not like we haven't seen such things before.
What a bunch of Baghdad Bobs here. Oh my Lord. I can’t believe I’m paying for this crap. I gotta cancel my subscription. This is like Monty Python and the holy Grail with a knight that has all his arms and legs cut off by his opponent,and thinks it’s a draw. I mean it’s just a horrible joke over here. You’re just…what the hell…I mean it’s just beyond any conception level of delusion here. Scary as hell that’s for sure.
Wow, that's a lot of words and posing without actually saying anything. If you disagree specifically with what people are writing, say why and provide a counter example. If you don't do that, you're part of the problem.
For example, do you really think it is a high point in professional leadership for Trump to publicly mock Tulsi Gabbard when she told the truth about what the consensus on Iranian nukes is of the what? is it 25 or 27? intelligence agencies which she oversees?
The overwhelming consensus of the US intelligence community, which ranges from civilian agencies like the CIA and NSA to military intelligence agencies, is that Iran was NOT (let's use Trump's precedent of applying ALL CAPS for IMPORTANT words) developing nuclear weapons, and that the ayatollah's religious command in 2003 to stop their nuclear weapons program continues to be honored to this day.
That's a big deal whether low IQ consumers of propaganda for morons on Fox news realize it or not. The US's intelligence agencies, on which the US spends hundreds of billions, told the truth as they saw it and Tulsi Gabbard reported their findings truthfully. That Trump rejected their information along with rejecting the advice of Vance and other sensible people and instead went along with a bunch of Israeli propaganda for morons and "thoughts" from neocons who don't even know exactly what an atom is, and he did that at risk of nuclear explosions in US cities, is a new low point in US leadership. That's a heck of an anti-accomplishment given the extreme idiocy of some of what Biden and Obama did.
In point of fact, Iran did not get all of its arms and legs cut off by any opponent. The US struck mostly empty facilities (everything valuable within them was moved out months ago) and the claims of Iran's nuclear program being totally destroyed is plain and simple propaganda for morons. It's highly unlikely that the six "bunker busters" dropped on Fordow did significant damage even to the empty facility... if you pay attention you'll note the US has been busy walking back Trump's claims of total destruction to "we've yet to assess" and "not destroyed but delayed...".
What Trump staged was a reality show for morons. He exploded a lot of ordnance to blow the heck out of sand and some empty facilities on the surface, so he can claim "We kicked the life out of them and now we won" and braying jackasses who don't know anything about Iran or reality will buy that and Trump will get plenty of "likes." But what he did was extraordinarily dangerous in terms of a) guaranteeing that Iran will now develop nukes, b) guaranteeing that now every "edge" state will develop nukes, and c) guaranteeing that sooner or later the US is going to bomb somebody who has nukes emplaced in US cities and millions of Americans will die. It's like the imbecile teenagers on TikTok who were swallowing Tide detergent capsules for "likes," but Trump is killing people and risking nuclear destruction for his likes.
And that the great majority of the US population is happy as clams being marinated in 24/7 total lies about basically everything is why that's happening.
Because most of the parasites in charge of the US had strayed away from our Founders' wise counsel against foreign interventionism long ago, we've become the most hated nation on earth within my lifetime. This article from 2013 explains why.
With the ongoing Gaza shitshow and Satanyahoo trying to start a regional war that will endanger the world economy, I reckon Israel is now tied with us.
"Who ya gonna believe...me, or your lying eyes?" The American voting populace is the kid's table at Thanksgiving. "White meat or dark meat, Billy?" It's all turkey. No matter who you waste your time voting for, you always get more war. If Russia, China and Iran don't prevail, the BRICS future is throttled in the crib. An agreement with the war mongering west?! I don't think so. It's all western piracy as we've seen for hundreds of years-everywhere. Bigly sad. President Toddler is as bad or worse than former Resident, Vegetable Lasagna.
Realistic views are discouraged. Ignorant views are encouraged. It's about pacifying the masses, not getting informed consent. Bread, circuses and military glory, however manufactured.
Theoretically, someone is supposed to be realistic, but that is more and more optional with time.
Biggest American Mistake? Letting Dual Citizenship with conflicting loyalties so the Specials could bribe American Politicians with money churned and stolen from Americans.
Yeah I got it wrong. Seems the order Trump made to the US military was, "go pound sand".
No it was a toss off comment at the end of a long day. A case could be made that 1953 was when the US first went to war against Persia. It's ambivalent as a comment and may yet prove true.
The different perspective I bring is in personally knowing a lot of Persian people. Like all our other enemies, many lies have been told.
If nothing else our ill advised actions galvanize the Iranian public just like all our magic has done to countries all around the globe. Oh they may quiet down for a bit, but they don't forget. Not like we do!
Oh where to start. I have had some very dear friends from Iran. Always competent, stubborn, brilliant and NOT addicted. Extremely family oriented. Ok they got stuff we want, we will pay!
Blabbering alert. It's summer here for such a short while. My fatigue varies, but does not go away. Of the 7 countries identified for destruction, Iran is the last standing. That is not a coincidence.
Look we have agreed in the past, either be specific or we'll take a break from this. They are all under pressure to conform to Israeli demands. They face systemic infiltration and destruction. The end of Libya has certainly changed the facts on the ground for Europe and for Libyan women in particular.
Israel has failed to annihilate Gaza, have a look at the map of Iran. When all ya got are dirty tricks and war you should have better insurance than US hegemony. Negotiations are forever suspect. Its big stick time!
What a great question. The one "we" started in 1953 with Iran and all the rest of the world that dares to act like we did, during our declaration of Independence phase. 1776? When freedom and rights were universal, not just for psychopathic, regime changing, genocidal lunatics.
At some point we will regret our course, it could be too late.
All I care about, here in the US, is that we don't have enough Roman Catholic, Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Shinto, Zoroastrians, etc... working in Wall Street.
Maybe Trump did the right thing after all... satisfy the AIPAC Rambos in America, threw some meat for the Fundamentalist Christian Zionists and kept the Globalists happy while offering the fool of Netanyahu a way out from his huge mistake on attacking Iran.
Perhaps Trump really does deserve the Nobel Peace Prize... assuming it means anything after Obola The Magnificent took it.
Here in the US, a big tell is how little this is being covered by the Corporate Media...
Happening right now..... Jewish Zionism and Christian Zionism (*).... that can be a big issue.
My point is that Zionism has too much power over American Politics and Wall Street.
(*) Mind you, I don't believe that American Fundamentalists are Christian... I don't know what they are. Perhaps Jews that believe Christ is the Messiah?
Iran will close Hormuz to traffic to Europe and US, meaning Europe deindustrialises further (Stupid f'king morons demanded Iran quit even civilian enrichment - just begging to be hurt!); the sailors on the Nimitz gotta feel like they missed an Israeli bullet if Nuttyahoo instead wishes to de-escalate instead of sinking them in a planned false flag; Americans get to ra-ra about their "Invincible" military a little while longer; Iran dodges being nuked (For now); the NPT is looking very shaky; Trump gets to brag emptily; the Demonrats have cause for impeachment and will likely take the midterms; and everyone gets to watch the genocide in Gaza continue.
Israelis got to wonder WTF was the point of all that, while they repair their destroyed infrastructure - themselves, as only the most masochistic of the non-Jewish foreign workers there will remain after being kicked out of the bomb shelters.
If the war does end, I suspect many of the occupying regime's best and brightest will leave the country at the earliest opportunity. Until then, however, this regime will continue to be on the wrong end of hundreds of Iranian next generation missiles destroying more and more of their critical infrastructure. Iran has clearly stated that it intends to punish the zionists severely and make them 'helpless'. I believe they intend to do just that before they agree to end it all.
Voting won't change anything, but the Praetorian guard certainly can. Listening to Judge Napolitano it would be accurate to say Trump over stepped his authority so this would be the perfect trigger for impeachment proceedings, rendering the VP of Israel somewhat impotent. Then of course the missiles heading to Israel continued. How long before Bibi's minders are done with him? He's making Kissenger's prediction into a reality. And then again, the OCGFC is done with the Rothschild project and are prepared to move onto bigger fish in Asia via connection to the heartland.
The ball was never in Iran's court; it was always in China's court. China could stop the West from destroying Iran, by forcefully supporting Iran, although at great cost to China's export-to-the-West economic model. It appears that Trump may have received an agreement from China during the "trade talks" for China to stay out of America's way in the middle east. Also recall that in the previous two conversations, Putin and Trump spent more time discussing Iran than Ukraine. It seems that both Russia and China have agreed to allow Trump a free hand in destroying Iran in exchange for concessions- US reducing assistance to Ukraine and reducing tariffs on China. If true, such agreements would be remarkably short-sighted as US dominance of the middle east will haunt Russia and China for decades.
The Chinese aren't going to make any bold moves to back stop Iran or anyone else. It's not their nature or style. The Chinese bureaucrat like the Chinese businessman is highly intelligent but also conservative and cautious.
It's a bit of a cliché, but their mental map of competition and the world is much more like the game Go than the game Chess. Go (围棋 wéiqí) is the game of encirclement, no bold Chess moves to bust through the lines and capture the King are possible.
Everything we see and will continue to see coming out of Beijing is the careful implementation of plans that were drawn up not years but decades ago.
You maybe familiar with the current situation in Rare Earth materials, that's the fruition of at least 30 years of Chinese hard work.
The China - Iran railway is such a plan, as is the 25 year $400 billion deal Beijing and Tehran signed in 2021. Ports, airports, railways, motorways, oil refineries, power stations, schools and universities, these are all Chinese stones on the board.
The media propaganda and psychological operations that are so popular in the West can produce powerful results, but their effects are essentially illusory and transitory. Steel, uranium, cement, oil and grain and cannot just be wished into or out of existence by manipulating human thought.
I'm not saying that Beijing is totally immune to Western psy-ops, but their particular psyche, culture and government makes them pretty damned immune to them.
"Washington used Media Campaign (Psychic) !"
"It's not very effective..."
"Beijing used Infrastructure Development (Earth) !"
Lol really? They prepared for decades and now they are acing Israel every serve. Trying to muddy the situation discussing Chinese or Russian support misses the point that Iran has held its own. If they need support they will get it, but neither China or Russia will be stupid enough to get bogged down in a faraway war.
It doesn’t matter that this is what happened (a symbolic strike expecting Iran to reciprocate).
The fact is, the U.S. hit a peaceful nuclear site of a sovereign country then went on TV to warn them of retaliating. This is not just a face saving matter (although by now I don’t know why anyone would still play that game) but it also legitimizes a criminal act and invites further aggression on Iran and others.
Let’s just be clear here: Iran is well within its right to respond in a proportional matter. They might decide to intensify their attacks on Israel or asymmetrically, but a “symbolic” retaliation just looks weak and will not have good long term consequences.
Anyone who thinks the real owners of the U.S. will accept this and go home are delusional. They will put pressure on Trump and he’ll just start the next phase.
As the Zionists in Israel have been utterly pounded and can’t take it much more or longer, they won’t have an alternative, neither does the US have the resources for a long and very risky hot war with Iran. But they will go back to their destabilization, sanctions and regime change illusions and pipe dreams. That’s all they could do than risk their own destruction in the Middle East.
"Anyone who thinks the real owners of the U.S. will accept this and go home are delusional. They will put pressure on Trump and he’ll just start the next phase."
Not a few hours after the dust settled and Trump starts talking regime change, doubtless emboldened by the feeble Iranian response.
This is ONE SUPER STUPID 'CLOWN SHOW' so this is how modern wars are fought? Everything is meaningless. Whats the point of even analyzing operations if it is all scripted. Were decoding scripts that were most likely written on chatbots.
The events of just the last few years have shown that there is no making peace with Israel. Any peace process is simply a tool used as a weapon of war.
Israel will simply use this time to make a new plan to attack Iran, one where they have a better chance of neutralizing Iran's missiles.
Exactly. There can be no peace with an enemy whose goal is your total destruction. This is what Russia, China, and Iran face with the US and Israel. They have to manage the conflict very very patiently to keep from escalating. Imagine fighting someone who wants to die. People call Islam or Israel a death cult but there’s something deeper going on in the west. We’ll destroy the world if we can’t rule it completely.
lol! Neutralizing Iran’s missiles? In what way have they so far neutralized Iran’s missiles? On the contrary, they have been pounded beyond anything they ever expected or imagined! Did anyone ever imagine TelAviv and Haifa looking like what they’ve looked like over the last week? And every year, Iran’s missile arsenal has advanced in speed and lethality. They have devastated Israel over the last week with only a sample of their hypersonic missiles. They’ve lost this war by miscalculating from the outset and that’s why they were so desperate for Daddy Trump and the US to come and rescue them via anything including a nice “let’s GTFO here mission accomplished” theater! They don’t have any air defense missiles left, and US stocks running critically low. Even with a full load of AD, Israel has already been set on fire, let alone in a week or two as they run low and out if it continues at this pace!
So will Iran learn! And if Iran was able to deal this way even when they got blindsided, I think they will be far more effective and prepared and will do plenty better next time! Plus, Iran isn’t finished or in a hurry to settle at the moment, even though the Israelis are begging Daddy USA to intervene by force or rescue them with a ceasefire! I’m not underestimating anything but try not to do so either, especially as you come across like your analysis is so astute and superior as to be entirely missed by the collective understanding of Iranians at present or in the future. This is like Monday morning quarterbacking without even realizing the benefit of hindsight or assuming that what’s obvious to you is somehow easily missed by a whole nation!
They calculated with an all-out retaliatory strike from Iran. They expected 5000 casualties from this, and that would have guaranteed all-in from the US. Trump would not have had a choice.
Instead Iran has learned from the Russians. Deny the enemy the big escalation that he needs to unite all domestic power centers. Keep bleeding him white so slowly that he is paralyzed by internal strife.
A dozen rockets every night that will hit whatever Iran wants to destroy, keep the harbor and the refinery in Haifa out of business, and within weeks the Israeli citizens will remember their backup passports and choose the Samsonite Option. In retaliation Israel will hit a few targets in a country ten times as big before it runs out of missiles, and Iranians are Shi‘ites known for a culture that glorifies suffering and martyrdom.
Iran has a clear path to taking Israel out, and if they really agreed to a ceasefire and intend to keep it, then they have learned nothing and deserve all that is coming their way.
You start pretty well and little by little and by the last sentence your argument ends up in a totally contradictory conclusion reflecting a kindergartener level of emotional reasoning. Plus, Samsonite option? 😂 😂 I didn’t know Israel has a suitcase company option! Is it leather or hard plastic? 😂
I think of note is that these fake strikes allow Trump to exit but not Bibi. I would love to see Iran keep throwing missiles at Israel. Bibi and his death cult are a long term problem no sense in Iran to stop now until they can get Israel to back off them and Gaza for several years.
I know you're joking but - well - never. Iran doesn't do shit like that. They have high ethics. Its a religious leader that's in charge. Good arrangement.
I don't agree. there were polls very recent that 86% of the population wants the genocide. This entity needs to be schmucked out of existence. I saw a video yesterday of a young woman from Palestine warning the Cypriots about letting the schmuckers stay as refugees
I don't agree. there were polls very recent that 86% of the population wants the genocide. This entity needs to be schmucked out of existence. I saw a video yesterday of a young woman from Palestine warning the Cypriots about letting the schmuckers stay as refugees
Very informative. My understanding is there are bunker busting tomahawk versions too. And yes not one picture from an Iranian cell phone nor showing off targets hit by the Air Forces in pressers says no manned aircraft have entered Iran.
It is a slow missile so it would do less kinetic damage on rock
The 'bunker buster' bombs are supposed to have a kinetic component that penetrates ground. If the speed is subsonic and the mass is not that huge (450kg/1000lbs) then the penetrating ability is not going to be all that much.
This. The GBU-57 "bunker buster" bombs are cartoon weapons. Consider a proven penetrator gravity bomb like the U.S. GBU-28: it has a narrow depleted uranium head to create an initial wedge. The body of the weapon is similar to an artillery barrel, and made on the same machines as U.S. M777s. The inside of that thick hardened body of the bomb is stuffed with high explosive. It can penetrate 150 feet of earth or 15 feet or reinforced concrete.
The GBU-57 is the same length as the GBU-28 and has a cheap looking sheet metal cladding. A rough napkin calculation given the density of military-grade PBX HE shows every nook and cranny of the inside of the bomb is stuffed with explosive: there's hardly room left for detonator circuitry.
The GBU-57 is likely effective when used for dynamite fishing a lake. It's the shock wave that kills the fish - and if you detonate the dynamite on the surface of the lake, it kills little. Most of the blast is directed upwards. That's the mode of operation for the "MOAB"; it simply lacks any conceivable means of penetrating earth. It will crumple on the surface and radiate the bulk of its explosive force out and up.
Clown show, pure and simple.
Impressive.
perhaps the journalists were prohibited from going near the site because of possible nuclear contamination or did not want to risk it themselves? Don't have any idea. I don't think this was made up. I live on Gulf Coast Florida not far from a huge air base. Three days ago I heard what I was sure were bombers and more than one flying overhead on a very overcast day so that I could not see what I was hearing.
In Ukraine it is forbidden to take pictures of fallen missiles, but such pictures are taken anyway.
(Photographs have revealed how "Russian missiles attacking apartment buildings" are old Soviet anti-air missiles sent up by Ukraine, many of which fail and fall to the ground. The Kiev government prefers to hit Russian missiles when they pass over cities, with the defenses stationed there, instead of letting the missiles proceed to military targets. Aside from failed anti-air missiles, debris from the successful hits also falls on buildings, which the media then claim are "Russian missiles targeting buildings." Photographs by civilians reveal this. But I digress!)
Where's the Beef.
Ritter wants to know also. (Flattering words for Trump -- not)
https://rumble.com/v6v5cll-ritters-rant-009-wheres-the-beef.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_m
Marandi has promised that Iran is taking the course of action you're suggesting, but deliberately.
"disengage", I would also "like" to see the conflict close, but the sense I get from Ritter (and others [Orlov in particular with his tremendous sarcasm]) is, this isn't over until all Israelis have been forced back to being "just Jews" wandering the earth in search of meaning.
One must recall Finkelstein (a rare "self-respecting" Jew) and remember many Israelis will transform into "supremacist Jews". (Can an ex-Israeli be anything else?) Does that breed the "Woe-is-me"/"pity me" Jew? Conjuring a "Two-Face" (as in Batman) result. The one character flaw complements the other in an eternal Taoist Ying/Yang hell of self-doubt, self-pity, "I'm really not a wimp" aggression against the "uncaring world". Netanyahu -- the chameleon -- anyone?
Too bad there aren't more "well-adjusted" Jews like Blumenthal and Mate who put on their "ironman" suits and fight for "Truth, Justice and the American Way" (when "the American Way" was a noble pursuit)
Wasn't my metaphor. Orlov came up with it.
There are many "tribes" of Jews who have done exactly as you suggest.
What's wrong with being "well-adjusted" and isn't putting on their ironman suit exactly "principled, vigorous advocates for peace"?
Yes Ritter often speaks forcefully. He's an emotional guy. He admits to it.
He would rather there not be war or conflict. What's wrong with yearning for peace. Stating that is his preference doesn't negate his other analysis.
The US won't be out of the empire business for a long, long time. Too many Americans still think elections matter. They think they see a difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
This interview with Barry Eisler talks about the "venn diagram" between the two parties. They differ violently on abortion to distract you from all that they agree on. The Democrats are now silent on war with the Republican in the White House, just as the Republicans were silent when it was occupied by Biden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3kG--36aQ
The decadant American Oligarchy will continue to squeeze and squeeze until Americans break. Then, there might be some revolt.
Where am I ?
Looks like early signs of dementia, Victor.
Next stop will be, who am I. lol
Then: Who stole my camel?
Iran just now hit US Air Force Command HQ located in Qatar. News is developing.
The natives are revolting.
Apparently another theatrical attack - US knew it was coming. Likely won't cause much damage or loss of life since they were forewarned.
Looks like you are the guy waiting for the opening of the debutantes ball. And then when he was on stage and the music started, he had forgotten how to dance.
nice analogy, apparently Simplicius' information does that to some of its readers (myself included). however, it's corrobotated bigly by Michael Hudson (long read): "...The sound and fury of Trump’s missile attack on Iran’s most famous nuclear sites on June 21 turned out not to be the capstone of America’s conquest of the Middle East. But it did more than signify nothing [...] Iran for its part evidently was glad to cooperate with the public relations charade. The U.S. missiles seem to have landed on mutually agreed-upon sites that Iran had vacated for just such a diplomatic stand-down [...] By intervening on Israel’s side by supporting its genocide, the United States has turned most of the UN’s Global Majority against it..." - https://www.geopoliticaleconomy.report/p/michael-hudson-war-iran-us-unipolar-control
Thanks for the link.
Hollywood.
@Victor
The more important question: Where shall we do lunch?
Trust the Plan, my man. Patriots in control, NCSWIC or something.
Good Simplicius!
There are many questions here waiting to be answered.
a) We have seen 3 holes x 2 on Fordow and one on Natanz, but none at Isfahan.
I think it is possible that US nailed seven double taps with Fordow receiving 12 bombs and Natanz two.
b) Where did the 30 Tomahawks go? No damage visible on the surface at Fordow.
c) How can anyone trust anything coming from Israeli and US Gov mouths? Sounds stupid if US is deceiving the public but through backdoor channels inform the Iranians. I dont trust the backdoorchannel narrative - why should we believe in that?
d) US has warned Iran to give any sorts of answer risking american lives. Wouldnt it be fatal for the Iranian regime to only brush of some buildings on an empty american airbase in Iraq? That would show the World that Iran does not have the stamina to endure a War.
e) Why dont Iran attack Dimona and the five desalinations plants providing 50% of the freshwater to Israel? Are they afraid of Israeli destroying oil production (how that would be possible)?
Why sit and wait like Hamas and Hezbollah did and only speak about ”answers”?
If now Isreal is fed up on Fattah:s, why not feed them the rest?
Good questions.
Also, why has there been no nuclear test already?
If the war ends now, it will be a massive win for Israel/the US. They will have established that they can strike at Iran whenever they feel like wherever they feel like, and there will be no truly serious retaliation.
Which sets Iran for the same kind of death spiral that the initial "symbolic" strikes on Syria initiated back in the days.
Iraq was destroyed in a similar way too, if you remember -- in the 1990s there were the sanctions, but also regular bombings here and there, just like in Syria later on. Then the country eventually became a hollow shell that was easy to crack.
Right now they are rallying behind the flag in Iran, but if there is a shitty deal made to end the war without a clear victory, and chronic bombing becomes the norm, the mood will eventually shift to one of desperation and hopelessness. Exactly like in Syria.
Jesus christ.
Iraq was globally sanctioned, as was Syria - Iran just opened a direct train line to China, and Russia's will be open soon.
Iran is highly patriotic at the moment, Syria was wracked by the unexpected IS groups popping up out of nowhere to cause a civil war.
Both Iraq and Syria imported nearly all of their weapon systems, Iran has developed and builds their own.
It is literally chalk and bloody cheese.
Why don't you go eat some uranium you are so gung-ho that others should suffer?
What is your arguments? Do you have any good answers or are you just heckling GM?
https://open.substack.com/pub/simplicius76/p/shayrat-redux-trumps-invisible-fleet?r=szqta&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=128484202
Gnuneo.
Just let it go. I think we have established that GM was dropped on his head as a child. His interpretation of recent history is amusing.
GM troll alert
"Dropped"? More like drop-kicked. :rolls-eyes:
On the other hand, it's good to have a severe pessimist around in the group, shouting from the wilderness. Not because he's right much, but because it shows the boundary of 'sanity' for the rest of us.
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It's like a map for sanity. "Sail ye not beyond the GM cliff, lad. There be dragons!"
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At the very least he's the Comic Relief for us. ;)
The 'Australia' of politics! :'D
Calm down, he isn't gung-ho about people suffering. Ordinary Iranians are also discussing online whether their government should keep going or seek an end, and many say they should keep going despite how their own private economy suffers now.
Dude. Are you new here? Every f'kin post he makes he wants to nuke millions of people. Hang around and see in the future.
You probably need to define what you mean by an Israel US win? The fact that the US can make a PR probably fake strike against Iran and Israel can control the Western Propaganda media with unverified narratives? You probably need to speak to someone from the region to really understand what happened in the region with Iraq. Then consider the geography of Syria compared to Iran and the fact that the Syria collapse project began in 2011 and took 12 years to complete. What has been made clear by the nervousness and promotion of US weaponry by the administration is the US MIC is losing customers. The decades long marketing program is failing and the facade of US military supremacy is losing its luster.
What are you smoking? Israel is up in smoke already! Win? You have apparently no realization of the panic going on in Israel since last week. They are desperate to be rescued or an excuse to quit without losing total face and deterrence. They gambled on a quick victory last week and the plan was that Iran was going to surrender after a surprise attack without firing a shot at Israel. They had no idea they were going to get pounded with no end in sight! Yeah, some “massive win for Israel/US”. Lol 😂 If massive win is Israel suffering such destruction in one week as it NEVER before combined in its entire history, then Iran would happily congratulate their delusional optimism. When was TelAviv ever bombed from the air? So, in their most advanced period, they have experienced what they never even fathomed! Talking about shocked! Looks like you’ve been listening to hasbara the whole time! But then, even the mayor of Haifa was begging for a peace treaty yesterday!
"I'm the one who did this to you. Remember me."
The Israelis are just biker thugs...who walked into the wrong bar. <<link>>
https://youtu.be/4UBXTC24T8g?si=EMV9JkCgc7RJcx8D
😂 😂 😂
Sometimes life imitates art...
Indeed!
Zionists are not just supremacist sadists - they are stupid thugs who exposed their sadism and stupidity globally. This refers to Israeli and diaspora jews alike.
More like brainwashed and lost mind than inherently stupid!
judaic supremacist education generates people with genocidal mental setup; in other words, the judaic indoctrination makes people stupid
Okay, if you prefer to equate irrational and stupid! By that logic, Nazis were merely stupid as opposed to ideologically indoctrinated. Certainly in the effective and lethal conduct of wars, they were not stupid, but quite ingenious, clever, and rational in terms of achieving their aims for years. And, they almost did conquer all of Europe without any notion for anyone that they could be defeated! At least no one during WWII considered the Nazis particularly “stupid”! Maybe brutal and fanatical and deadly, but you can be sure not simplistically cast as stupid. In fact, it would’ve been pretty stupid and suicidal to have assumed they were stupid!
And with "Jewish Power" in Netanyahu's coalition, calls for ethnic cleansing that previously led to prosecutions in Israel are now discussed openly on Israeli TV.
Before, they let the "settlers" take land throughout the year, every year, but it doesn't seem like it was openly celebrated by most Israelis, just accepted. Now the fanaticism is everywhere. Anyone who'd complain would get to hear about "Hamas attack was like another Holocaust and they want to kill all Jews" again.
So he didn't know about how bad this war is for Israel. Why not just tell him that instead of talking about "what are you smoking" and so on? It's obvious from his post that he also opposes Israel's attack on Iran, just like you do.
Indeed, Iraq was bombed by Britain and the U.S. on average once a week for 12 years.
They destroyed power plants, so there'd be no air conditioning in the suffocating summer heat. They destroyed water refineries so people had to drink dirty water, causing disease and death, especially among children and the old.
When the Iraqis fired back at a plane in early 2000, Bush called it "an unforgivable aggression."
But this time, Iran has shown that they can also fire back. And they can keep going longer than Israel can. Both countries are lacking in air defenses, Israeli officials say their defenses will be depleted after about 12 days, but Iran can keep going. They have 90 million people and a lot of resources. They suffer from this war, people's private economy is ruined, but they can keep going. Netanyahu's coalition however, probably can't.
But the murders carried out, with the help of either the communist Mujahedin-e-Khalq terrorist group housed by the U.S. in Albania or by Farsi-speaking Afghans as many Iranians suspect, can't be forgiven. Iran should continue.
The elephant in the room is that Iran can’t escalate so far that Trump is forced to enter the conflict decisively. If they hit the desalination plants or Dimona that’s as high on the escalation ladder they can possibly go and would cause a mass uproar in the US even among the MAGA who would rather stay out of it. There are a lot of Americans and Russians basically captive in Israel right now. Iran doesn’t have to escalate that quickly and it would just play into Israel’s hands. Israel is done already and every move they make is a mistake. Why interrupt them as they make another and another and another.
We regular Americans seem to be wired to think in timeframes shorter than our “adversaries” so their patience is maddening. Russia, China, and Iran all play a longer game than we do, as do the Anglozionists in general. Israel is the one who needs to escalate, they’re the one whose population is about to revolt, they’re the one with an expiration date. The US has longer but also may ultimately need to escalate if the debt can cannot be kicked any further. Iran, China, and Russia only have to survive to win against those enemies, and they have far less to lose. The people there already know how to survive. Israel and the US are decadent societies totally unprepared for hardship, and there are soft targets everywhere. Power grid, nuclear plants, desalination, airports, logistics centers. These all run with just in time precision. There is no inventory or surplus of anything. One airline unable to move planes for a few hours ripples for days, look what happened with Heathrow. Last week my local grocery store was empty, literally empty of perishable products. I asked what was up and they said that their warehouse inventory system had an issue and they hadn’t had a delivery in a couple days. That’s how long it would take for total panic here.
Indeed. Didnt stop US in Iraq…
And how did that end up for the US?
No end in sight. They just continue…
So, are you suggesting that Iran should lower itself to the U.S. level of depravity? In any case, it’s not even necessary, as they are applying a severe butt-kicking to Israel without debasing themselves.
All I see is ”licking”.
Iran forewarned Quatar of some fireworks with 14 short range missiles doing no harm at all. Iran is going down fast. Without a severe fight.
I didnt say Iran should do US/Israeli depraved things - just stop the water flowing. But they are not interested in winning any War. Their goal is to lose it without too much destruction in Iran. Its like a victim of bullying; hit me in the stomach but dont crush my teeth.
USA embargoed pharmaceuticals supplies to Iraq, inducing mass childrens mortality, and was proud of it.
There are no norms anymore, no principles, because all have been destroyed one after one by Americans.
The EU admin support for unspeakable Israeli atrocities has exposed a lot of European compradors, leaving no hope for whitewashing. The liberal democracies are crushing due to internal moral rot
European governments do it on their own, not as satraps. How would they be satraps? Are they paid? No. Israel is worshipped because of the U.S. media and Hollywood declaring that Jews are sacred, and leftist media and school teachers in Europe have repeated "Holocaust!" for generations. To make Whites think they are evil for being White, so they'll accept mass immigration which is the only way the Social Democrats have won any national elections after the 1990s. In France, Britain, Germany and Sweden for example, the Left would have lost every national election in the 2000s and onward otherwise. So, Holocaust, ergo Jews can't be criticized. Ergo Israel is sacred and its enemies must be targeted.
Coincidence, only, that Jews dominate in the top Hollywood boardrooms and U.S. media, which all European media take their cues from. We won't see any Hollywood movie about the ethnic cleansing in Gaza. But we'll see even more Holocaust movies.
Just like in Syria, women who suffered from breast cancer were denied the necessary medication because of US sanctions.
Watching the retarded astroturfing and conspiracy theories last weekend, it's easy to understand why even basic morality has been banished from US activities.
Not to mention landmine removal equipment. All those children injured by landmines, their blood is on Trump's hands.
Thank Bashar and his Russian advisors. Most landmines in terms of scope, scale, and legacy were laid by Syrian government forces (2010-2024).
ISIS was responsible for many civilian deaths with IEDs, and leftovers. Kurds, not really, despite Turkish claims.
So? Does Iran want to win or do they want to be nice?
Note that the Americans and Israelis have no such qualms.
I think you're right. Iran seems to have the correct strategy, just like Russia with Ukraine. Stay on point and don't get distracted. Stay on point. Stay on point. When you have the winning position, the winning strategy, keep closing the vice and don't let up. Do not reaçt; do not get emotional. Your (losing) opponent will try to pull you off track, off strategy, with seemingly irrational tactics. But from their perspective the tactics are not irrational, because that's their only hope. Iran will defeat and destroy Israel if it just keeps chipping away at its infrastructure and economy and public morale in a war of attrition--nothing too dramatic in a short time frame. Keep the U.S. out. Keep the moral high ground and benefit from world opinion and support.
We heard similar cope following both of Trump's attacks on Syria.
Of course, the neocons won again. Syria now is a failed state.
Assad's Syria was never that strong to begin with, and by the end it was a hollowed out state that collapsed almost without pressure. Iran is far stronger, and remember that the present regime was established by overthrowing the Shah--a revolutionary act supported by its people. They have gone on to develop missile systems unequaled in the region. Trump's latest attack has not changed that calculus at all.
Obviously, the neocons feel differently.
People here were crowing about the "Assad curse" and the "Lion of Damascus".
So much wishful thinking.
Good reasoning.
But I have different view of what to do and when.
All these narrative of long play and winning by simply surviving is a dangerous, and perhaps a sinister seed planted in the brains of us. Israel bombed Iran this night and they will continue whatever Netanyaho says on Television.
Why sit and be reduced to rubbles like Libya, Syria, Iraq?
Wreaking havoc in Israel would require a lot of resources from US to help them out. Maybe the C17 would fly water/food instead of missiles?
I agree that US would ”feel” forced to help Israel if things go bd for them. The feeling is secured by all kompromats Mossad have on them.
Follow the money. You need to always remember who controls the resources. Less and less of them are controlled by the West each year. Their debts rack up.because of this. They are desperate. Really desperate. Desperate enough to attack Iran. Are the Russians desperate? The Chinese? Not at all, they are on the ascendant. They ink more and more deals, build more railways, roads, ports, airports and other infrastructure. The West is in a deep crisis and the decline is inexorable. It's just the natural cycle, nothing unusual.
The Iranians hit the Jew hospital (probably as collateral damage) and most Americans laughed —- desalination would be even more fun. Let the Jew go back to wandering in the desert.
1. "Israel and the US are decadent societies totally unprepared for hardship, and there are soft targets everywhere. Power grid, nuclear plants, desalination, airports, logistics centers. These all run with just in time precision. There is no inventory or surplus of anything. One airline unable to move planes for a few hours ripples for days, look what happened with Heathrow. Last week my local grocery store was empty, literally empty of perishable products. I asked what was up and they said that their warehouse inventory system had an issue and they hadn’t had a delivery in a couple days. That’s how long it would take for total panic here."
This would require a far more proactive Iranian response. Right now Iran is hoping that maybe the Americans will just go away.
2. "If they hit the desalination plants or Dimona that’s as high on the escalation ladder they can possibly go and would cause a mass uproar in the US even among the MAGA who would rather stay out of it."
Please. Nobody cares what MAGA thinks. Certainly not Trump.
MAGA is first and foremost, a cult of personality. Emphasis on the word "cult". If Trump does it, then they are for it. Until Trump does something else. Then they are for that.
If Trump were to convert to Twelver Shiism, they'd make their daughters wear hijab.
I’m not talking only about Iran. There is one war - anglozionists vs the rest of the world, led be Iran, Russia, and China. All 3 are capable of sabotage at the level it would take to cause major disruptions anywhere in the world.
As far as MAGA goes, you underestimate how broad the movement actually is and also how tenuous its cohesion is at this point. If US soldiers start dying for Israel it’s over. Trump is walking a very fine line and it’s extremely frustrating to see all the lies come into focus so quickly and over something so central to why so many came off the political sidelines and voted for Trump. But at this point it’s still better than Kamala and that’s where we stand today.
1. Russia, Iran and China would have to start acting much more proactively. Right now they all hope that the wolf will eat them last.
2. Dude, I live in the middle of North Dakota. I get to see MAGA every day and you'd have better luck reasoning with Moonies.
I can tell you though, there are a lot of Russians who don't think their government is playing a long game, but simply reacts too little and too late, a number of times.
We Westerners never get to hear this, but Putin is actually the voice of moderation in the Russian government. He has held back often, frustrating politicians and commanders. (An example would be that he twice declared a truce in Ukraine that only slowed down the Russian military. For Christmas both times I think, or for Easter and Christmas.)
Also, Iran made two big mistakes. They turned down Russia's offer of a defense alliance, and they turned down the offer of Russians modernizing their air defenses and integrating them with Russian intelligence.
Things could have been very different.
But since the conservative revolution in Iran (funny how the GOP never mentions it was conservative) they have been strongly focused on independence. Because they were exploited by Britain in the past. Also, their history with Russia hasn't been that great. The Soviets invaded them in 1941 together with Britain, to funnel weapons, gold, fuel etc to Stalin. Iranians were slaughtered for this. The Soviets wanted to cut off part of northern Iran and take it for themselves, give it to their Azerbaijan "republic."
When the USSR withdrew they left behind armed communist groups in northern Iran, which caused problems for a long time.
Iranians today should realize that this is not today's Russia, but it's not often easy to forget such history. But above all, the main argument was about national independence.
It's too bad. A defense pact with Russia would probably have prevented all of this.
"c) How can anyone trust anything coming from Israeli and US Gov mouths?"
Indeed. From now on, the whole world should start from the assumption that everything they say is a deception or a lie.
I suspect nearly everyone here worked that out several years back already, lol.
Late = better than never.
Indeed.
and the media. Let us count the ways our gov't and its lackeys in the media have lied to us: murders of JFK, RFK, and MLK; Gulf of Tonkin; 911; WMD's in Iraq; Syrian gas attacks; 4 years of Russiagate lies (when will the perpetrators of this fraud go to prison?); 5 years of covid lies; Ukraine lies.
If you had a friend who had lied to you as many times as gov't/media has lied to you, would you even be friends with him now? Would you listen to him and believe that this time he's telling the truth? That's what most Americans do when they watch legacy media. But they don't even say, "This time they're telling the truth" because that would be admitting they've been lied to. They just watch/hear what the media is telling them and accept it as true!
You just can't fix stoopit!
What did the US government NOT lie to you about? And how would you know?
Also, why launch THIRTY sub-launched Tomahawks, when we know that three SSN subs carry a total of THIRTY SIX Tomahawks?
Why are there six "missing" from that mix.... oh, wait, six holes in that ground at Fordow.
What an odd coincidence.
Lol. Would be a joke worth a Tucker interview. Those holes are deep. No Tomahawks.
Always save a few bullets just in case.
Never go full Winchester
1/6th launch failures?
I wouldn't be surprised.
<<< Why dont Iran attack Dimona and the five desalinations plants providing 50% of the freshwater to Israel? Are they afraid of Israeli destroying oil production (how that would be possible)?
Why sit and wait like Hamas and Hezbollah did and only speak about ”answers”?
If now Isreal is fed up on Fattah:s, why not feed them the rest? >>>
ALL great, GOLDEN questions, unfortunately lacking answers.
@vasile
I think that and the same in respect of russia and kiev - but a guy commenting up there ('dave's channel' ) says there's geneva convention and international law implications.
So perhaps that's it.
I wanted russia to announce a couple of weeks in advance for everyone to get out of Kiev and then shut down all water, sewage and power.
Apparently it's not something you can do.
Unless you are the usa or israel, of course. In which case that would be where you'd start.
If and to the extent that is the case, then the clerics are foolish, and Iran will be turned into a failed state as a result of their refusal to act like they had some sense when they had the chance.
"I think that and the same in respect of russia and kiev - but a guy commenting up there ('dave's channel' ) says there's geneva convention and international law implications."
So what? Law is meaningless. Enforcement is the only thing that matters.
"So what? Law is meaningless. Enforcement is the only thing that matters."
This is an American/Western viewpoint. The rest of the world does not think that way.
That is hardly limited to the West. Anyway, when you are confronted with someone who will do Whatever It Takes to win, you can either respond in kind, or lose.
@ feral finster
The point was that the law maybe explains why Russia does not do those things. That's 'what'.
To move on to postulating law is meaningless is an entirely different discussion.
Note that the United States and its poodles do not let the law hamstring them.
When dealing with someone who will do whatever it takes to win, either you do likewise or lose.
Obvious why you are called Feral.
This assumes there is a winning position. That is not always so.
So his 'do whatever it takes' may amount to nothing in fact for there is nothing he can do.
And 'doing whatever it takes' in this aphorism or whatever it is clearly suggests doing something extreme one feels guilty about. But in fact in normal life 'whatever it takes' is often done, always done, without ever going near things one doesn't want to do.
So I find it difficult to make sense of the injunction or whatever it is. It basically seems to be a cloaked suggestion that you should always be ready to do what you would rather not do - or worse. Which I suppose in the end means always be ready to abandon your principles.
Is that really what it means?
My perspective is that while the West remains a formidable adversary, it is undoubtedly on a downward trajectory. Crucially, one must look beyond isolated events and assess the broader picture. We are witnessing a comprehensive breakdown across key pillars of Western hegemony: the social contract, demographics, the financial system, and now, critically, its foundational military overmatch.
Geopolitically, the Gulf region is steadily shifting away from Western alignment, and similar trends are evident in the Far East. This centuries-old, belligerent, nuclear-armed bloc dominated the globe, but its position is eroding. Given this decline, it's imperative not to provoke desperate actions – a 'Samson option' or worse. Such recklessness is not unthinkable among Western elites, who are often insulated in secure facilities and whose apocalyptic fantasies, vividly portrayed in their science fiction, reveal troubling mindsets.
Furthermore, attempting to block Gulf oil would disproportionately harm the industrial engines of China and the emerging multipolar world, potentially more than it would damage America. The bottom line is: the West's decline is inevitable. The wisest course is to let this decline unfold naturally, avoiding any actions that might inadvertently pull one along or trigger catastrophic reactions.
I'd say the Iranians would do similar to Yemen and block 'unfriendly' traffic. Chocking off all traffic would be counterproductive.
Why would you ever decide to attack your foes symmetrically and allow them to use their strengths?
"Furthermore, attempting to block Gulf oil would disproportionately harm the industrial engines of China and the emerging multipolar world, potentially more than it would damage America. "
China will not be getting Iranian oil, regardless of what happens in the Straits of Hormuz, because the United States and Israel will attack Iranian oil installations.
You may recall how, not so long ago, commentators here confidently talked of Hezbollah rockets.
Hezbollah were passive and indecisive. They blew their chance. Nobody talks about the threat of Hezbollah rockets now.
Indeed, as always details emerge later that puncture the establishment's narrative.
But by then the media have had their propaganda campaign, and the sheep get to clap and shout "Israel! Israel!" or "USA! USA!". They won't check what comes days later.
Many know things always turn out to be different. But if you say that right away you are a "sore loser."
Oh,. we heard suchlike cope following both of Trump's attacks of Syria.
We know how that ended.
Welcome to the New World Order
The overlords create conditions that pit us against one another and profit from both sides.
Such oligarchs may conflict with one another, but they're all in the same club.
You think BRICS is any different than the Empire? It's all the same.
BRICS supports the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Developments rule-based order?
BRICS supports “global governance” and “the central role of the United Nations in the international system”.
BRICS supports the leading role of the IMF in global finance
BRICS supports public-private parStrengthening Multilateralism for Just Global Development and Security vs Building a Just World and a Sustainable Partnerships to help nations achieve their Sustainable Development Goals.
BRICS supports the reduction and removal of greenhouse gases to combat climate change.
BRICS supports the creation of carbon markets.
BRICS supports the World Health Organization and its “central coordinating role” in strengthening “the international pandemic prevention, preparedness and response system”.
BRICS supports the development of vaccines.
BRICS supports “digital transformation” using 5G and other "emerging technologies”.
Russia's oligarchs have dual citizenship with Israel, just like the US does.
The scamdemic was a global event with all countries pushing the toxic slide.
The only three world leaders who opposed the vaccine were liquidated.
Welcome to the New World Order and its One World Government.
BRICS is doomed.
First, it is not even a clear opposition to the empire. And it needs to present as an unified resistance front to have a chance.
But second and more important, you cannot be an opposition to the empire and capitalist in the same time. It just doesn't work. Because if you are capitalist, then everything is for sale, including people's loyalties, so the Empire will subvert you and divide you, as it controls the money supply and it also presents a better deal to local elites (be a vassal and hand over your country to us in exchange for freely looting locally under our protection) than the alternative (which would necessitate local elites curtailing some of their consumption so that investment into local development can take place). For the people it is the inverse of course -- the latter deal is much better -- but they don't make the decisions.
The USSR was a real alternative because it was anti-capitalist. And it fell apart precisely when the local elites decided to make that treasonous deal with the West.
Do the BRICS have any intention of being anti-capitalist? Absolutely not. Not even China. And Russia is still a Yeltsinite-lite oligarhic neoliberal shithole in that regard.
You may have heard the likes of Pepe Escobar gushing about how many deals were made at the SPIEF and how many businessmen were there. Nothing could be more cringeworthy given the context -- the Russian strategic aviation was covertly attacked with the intention of completely annihilating it, then Iran was attacked directly and openly, and what did Russian leadership do in response? Absolutely nothing, it instead went to the SPIEF to make deals (that, as usual, benefit primarily the local oligarchy). Putin hasn't even commented on what happened, let alone punish those who attacked the strategic nuclear forces.
With that kind of leadership Russia is doomed. And BRICS is just a clown show.
Depends what you think BRICS is. You have your own ideas, and then when they dont meet them they are deemed a failure. What is BRICS is not focused on opposing the Empire but to let like mi ded countries trade on their own terms. Everything isnt about the US, this will become clearer as time passes.
Wow! That's it? Jewish elite really rule the world now and we have unknowingly become slaves? Russia, China, Iran, North Korea are really just proxies, all of them in on the game? The entire world is ruled secretly by these people? Is that really where we are?
I have to admit to having doubts about that.
I had doubts, too, Victor. I think it's more than the Zio-Elites, but the evidence is too overwhelming, the deeper you dig down the rabbit hole, all humanity faces a common threat from these narcissistic psycho-sociopathic overlords. People are too caught up in the matrix to be able to free their minds to think outside of it. It's a bitter pill to swallow.
No, I'm referring to the specific statements regarding 'jewish law treatment of gentiles' and 'original text'. I want to see that text. I am not interested in commencing a course of study.
This should do.
09/04/2025: Von der Leyen Says Europe embraces Talmudic values.
https://portuguesejewishnews.com/news/von-der-leyen-says-europe-embraces-talmudic-values/
The relevant passage of that link is 'European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen recently stated that “Europe holds the values of the Talmud,” referring to the central text of Rabbinic Judaism, which emphasizes principles such as justice, personal responsibility, and solidarity.' She is just saying that the EU holds the same views on those topics. I think she is lying, but that is a different issue. She isn't saying anything about other passages in the Talmud.
Uncle A proven right every day.
Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
@ Denis
debunked. urban myth or worse
It hasn't been debunked.
i made a comment 16h ago: 'we need a link'. it got deleted. i'm just replacing it here.
One can have doubts…and those countries are not proxies. And they are not governed by the chosen people either. But dont you think Kim would strike a deal with Trump? He is also a criminal.
China is a godless land and they will eventually rule us as all as the chinese rule in countries/cities they have control or dominance in. It is more subtle but still a ruling.
Maybe you are making the same mistake as most westerners when you bring "values" into the equation. When we speak of NK being 'criminal' or China seeking 'rule over the world', we are engaging in just the kind of rhetoric that the US and its allies rely on.
China, especially, is a unique example of a country developing a system of government and an economy that is simply superior to anything we have. We boast of 'democracy' and 'freedom' but live the opposite. Theirs is a system built on local democracy (at the regional level) but getting more centralised and authoritative towards the top. And at all levels they fill highly competitive positions with people who are thoroughly trained in the necessary skills for those positions even to the top. In the Chinese system there is little room for the psychopath and genocidal maniac as is represented by the Western/israeli system. They have their problems like any country (corruption, criminality, etc), but the Chinese are not an unhappy people, unlike us - and there are good reasons for that.
Good response Victor. I was beginning to wonder who reads Simplicius.
I read and learn a lot of Chinese culture and politics. They have no politics only power fractions. It is a one force rules all. They have corruption but they sure kill them when they find out.
Their system is better than ours but not with stains and faults.
And values for me is important. Chinese are materialistic and shallow according to my measurements. Most people are unfortunately.
Really? I find the Chinese to be highly intelligent, hard working and possessed with deep cultural values dating back thousands of years. Most Chinese I know are delightful people and very patriotic to their motherland.
Indeed. All true. You can be all that but still materialistic and godless.
Patriotism is something else. US people are patriotic no matter what idiot they have as President. Israelis are very patriotic…
Stop eating dogs, then we can discuss deep cultural values.
Re "materialistic" - no civilization is more materialistic and value-less than the American capitalist system, which enshrined greed as god and profit as sacred. I have this strange inkling that perhaps you don't know much about either China or Chinese, much less about their history.
As for the values of "America" - well we just see them supporting a genocidal state that's committing the worst atrocities we've seen in lo 40 years, as well as electing "presidents" using a mostly ignorant voter base (30% of adults in the US are functionally illiterate per a recent poll - reading at a sixth grade level at best and incapable of doing simple arithmetic. These adults vote of course, based on whatever advertisement they see on TV).. We went from a dementia ridden barely functional guy pretending to be "president" to something of a clown act masquerading as a governance system.
But even you cannot claim the Chinese fail to put smart and capable people at the top.
I was triggered by your claim ascribing "values" to Americans, known mostly for their consumerism. It's a n interesting case of projection you make when you ascribe Power politics to China, when the current white house occupant slogs through every day making those "me most powerful" pronouncements. Really, now...
I didnt ascribe values to Americans. I am not american at all. I wrote about chinese system and the topic of BRICS being a better alternative.
US is greedy and capitalistic in almost an obsessed way. Isnt it strange that Russia and China is striving to be ”better” than US by copying all the materialistics? High rises, neon, shopping malls…all working and running to be richer than the neighbour…
Being intelligent and efficient isnt the same as being a good person or a good society.
China has its problems, too. Here's just a few clips:
https://youtu.be/VG_26fuNaPY?t=1
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-stops-publishing-hundreds-statistics-cover-economic-collapse
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-china-hit-worker-protests-over-unpaid-wages-factory-shutdowns-amid-trump-tariffs
https://youtu.be/QL8YssuPvYE
Everyone has their problems - yes, even China, Russia, NK and Iran (esp Iran these days).
Good reply. Not that it'll convince the ones who have been permanently captured by the Yellow Peril propaganda. Nothing will change their minds that Cowboy must beat Chinaman. It's like a mantra of sorts, and long ago I found out that logic doesn't work with either red scares or Yellow Perils. Somehow many Americans always feel they are under threat (may be because they are doing the threatening?).
We in the West, like the Jews who have disproportionate impact on Western culture, have been raised from birth in fear of a world against us and we must always be alert to fight that 'evil' wherever it raises its head.
That's what is meant by the 'wages of sin"...oops ...wages of being an Empire. When you are one by definition everything around you is perceived as threat.
Heavy is the crown, said the king....
That, while the beggar danced away hauling his nightly stash....
good luck with that.
Sinophobia (and Islamophobia) is one of the unofficial state religions in the "west".
You forgot Russophobia!
The term “Islamophobia” was popularized in the late 20th century by Islamist groups (Muslim Brotherhood) and their Western allies to silence criticism of Islam and shield the religion from scrutiny. It emerged as a political tool to frame any opposition to Islamic doctrines, immigration policies, or Sharia law as irrational “fear” or “bigotry.”
The Runnymede Trust, a left-wing British think tank, played a key role in mainstreaming the term in 1997 with their report Islamophobia: A Challenge for Us All. Since then, it has been weaponized to suppress free speech, particularly in Europe and North America, where honest discussions about Islamic extremism, mass migration, and cultural conflicts are often smeared as “hate.”
The term itself is deceptive—it conflates legitimate concerns about jihadist violence, gender apartheid under Sharia, and the erosion of Western values with baseless prejudice. Critics argue that “Islamophobia” is a manufactured concept designed to bully dissenting voices into silence while enabling the unchecked spread of radical Islam.
Economic reality will ultimately convince them unless they're insane enough to blow up the world rather than play fair.
Don't applaud China so much. Their "superior system of government and economy" == A hive / swarm-driven total obedience (slave mentality) on top which communism can be naturally impregnated and affixed.
It's called Confucianism. Perhaps you've heard of it. Circa 750BC.
For the last two Milleniae geopolitical conflicts have been tainted with 'values' derived from the Bible according to belief, be that from Jewish, Christian or Muslim perspectives. A never ending source of conflict matter.
China is the only country not deriving their values from the Bible.
My bet is that this will eventually give them a decisive historical advantage.
Religions are generally not a source of conflicts and oppression, but instead a tool utilised by those who lust after power and money. Don't blame the tool as it can also be used for peace, mercy, righteous living and as a shield from the terrors of this world.
I make a clear distinction btw. religion in general and biblical worshipping in particular. The latter has evolved into an incessant desire for power and money disregarding metaphysical and eternal spiritual values.
https://www.unz.com/article/god-the-jews-and-us-a-deceitful-civilizational-contract/
China is the only country not deriving their values from the Bible.
Really? India is guided by Bible studies?
"China is the only country not deriving their values from the Bible."
Ever heard of India, to give the first example to come to mind?
I had India on my mind when I wrote the comment but India is currently not a major player in (resolving) the conflict in the sense that they keep a low profile: "The Modi Government has unequivocally neither criticised nor condemned the US bombing and Israel's aggression, bombings and targeted assassinations," he posted on X. He said it has also maintained a "deafening silence" on the "genocide" being perpetrated on the Palestinians in Gaza.
Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/india/iran-israel-conflict-congress-asks-govt-to-show-moral-courage-slams-it-for-not-condemning-us-bombing-3598185
Re Chinese being happy. Well, "not unhappy," yeah. Depends who you talk to I guess. I was there in April. The young people are either unemployed (some, "laying back" tang-ping, dropped out) or desperately seeking advancement. There's a word in China now, nei-juan, translated as "involution." It means competing beyond expectation of improvement, competing in a situation of diminishing returns. That's the word many of them use to describe to own society. For working people, for many that's 9-9-6, working 9am to 9pm six days a week. Common enough there's a term for it. So "not unhappy," yeah, maybe they can buy some stuff their grandparents couldn't have dreamt of... but it's "godless" maybe in the AA sense of "Good Orderly Direction" God, meaning, a life that makes some kind of sense. I get the feeling that may lacking for a lack of them, since traditional values and traditional communist values are all receding in the rear-view mirror. Of their new electric car.
Can you be more specific about what you mean by "godless"? are you implying the US is "godfull" or just "gawd-awful"?
Just curious.....
”It is complicated” as you hear too often :-).
Chinese state is atheist. The communist party believes in itselfs.
The state recognizes five religions: Buddhism, Catholicism, Daoism, Islam, and Protestantism. The practice of any other faith is formally prohibited.
Chinese are acting ”godless” in business and ordinary life. They skin dogs alive, eat animals alive. People in Asia under ”chinese” business rule call them the J*ws of Asia. They only act in self-interest and long term benefits.
US is full of churchs and worshippers but equally godless, as most of western countries.
The renowned Russian Orthodox church is also compromised, although the Russian state protects childs from the Homo-globo agenda. Russian people was destroyed by 80 year of communism. They are materialistic and consume more than they need if they have money.
You find ”godfull” people here and there but all in all we live in a godless world.
Are you godless, Mikey?
No.
God is a fictional character
How do you know? And who talked about a character?
Godless people are nihilistics.
To 'me' the 'default position' should be 'nothingness' {no universe}. Yet, 'I' am 'here' {Cogito, ergo sum ?} as is 'the universe'.
I don't know about 'you lot' 😊{'you' may be the product of my 'imagination' 😊?}.
'Anything' is possible?
That's good, to make a statement about what god is. Because that's the whole problem. 'god' is just a word and it has a different meaning with virtually everyone that uses it. in fact most people use without giving a thought as to what they really mean by it.
When someone tells you what god is or isn't it is pointless to argue with them. You'r arguing at cross purposes. What's really happening is they are describing their god ( whether they believe it exists or they believe it doesn't exist) and you are describing yours.
Hence virtually all discussion is rubbish. Most especially such as by the most 'learned' and intellectual.
I accept the definitions and descriptions given to me by NDE people.
I find them perfectly satisfactory.
"The renowned Russian Orthodox church is also compromised, although the Russian state protects childs from the Homo-globo agenda"
This is why Christ fags are mental defects. Russia is a single mother waste land, full of abortion and child abuse. (Most child abuse is done by single mothers.)
You just hate gays. Far more harm is done to kids by women than gays.
Also most underage transitions are enforced by narcissistic mothers, no one does anything to stop them. Let all lizard brained right wingers, you deflect blame from women to gays and other groups.
The Russia legal system puts drugs addicts in the same area with other drug addicts and lets them share needles to kill them. Is that Christian?
I support Russia against NATO aggression, but it is not a nice country.
Unless no fault divorce is banned, family court reformed, abortion are outlawed, and feminism tackled in a country, no Christ fag is in a position to mouth off.
You put a lot of opinions in my mouth….
We cannot improve the world in a collective sense if we refuse to look in the mirror and improve ourselves as individuals. Read Tito Colliander’s short book “The Way of the Ascetics”.
This is the fatal flaw of communism. It strips out the mechanism to improve the foundation of society and attempts to build utopia using flawed bricks which requires mandating obedience through force. But even if that force can line the bricks up and stack them on each other, it cannot change their nature.
There is no mechanism for improving society under Capitalism whatsoever.
Right. Unpopular message but yeah, that's how it looks to me too.
Godly American people are the most hostile violent, arrogant, judgemental non Christian people to ever exist. So I call them Christ fags.
How many Christ fags join the US military, and worship the false idol of the American flag? American Christ fags support Zionism as well, so they support violence.
How many Christ fags have proclaimed support for family values, while support no fault divorce, and a family court system that have broken up millions of families and spread single motherhood?
How many divorce Christ fags get remarried again, so committed fornication by their own rules? (If you talk to real trad Christians they rule out state marriage completely, as it is linked to no fault divorce. Since the Average Christian male is a unprincipled loser, they ignore this.)
How many Christ fags support right wing economics, completely in contradiction to Christian ideals?
How many Christ Fags circumcise their baby boys, even though that is anti Christian?
So I got zero patience for American Christ fags who look down on non Christians. I know their religion better than them.
China will rule no one. With a birth rate of less than 1 kid per woman, you just have to wait to see the catastrophic collapse of the nation.
No country can survive that.
Totally untrue. China has a far higher birth rate than many countries. Less the 1 child per woman is unheard of in any country, perhaps with the exception of during wars or famines.
No, it's a crisis in China too, like in many countries.
Demographics is an issue in much of the world. Singling out China just shows how little the commentor knows about the issue. Cheap propaganda that is patently lies needs to be called out. It's not like it's even close to believable.
As we see happening in Europe, da Yookay, South Korea and Japan. Except that those are all far further down that track than China.
Taiwan is one of the worst. Perhaps that is the China he was talking about. Eastern Europe is also seriously affected. The difference is in China it was government policy. Most other places it's due to financial and social constraints.
Paranoia (understandable given our times) tends to make the imagination go overboard. Not every country plots to enslave and deprive its people.
Indeed. Some just want to protect their people from the ravages of empire.
Name me one world leader who wants to protect their people from the Empire? Just one.
I doubt that I could name one that you would accept. But if you push me to the wall, then I would have to name Putin, Xi, Kim Jong-Un and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
So you just mentioned BRICS leaders who all promote an agenda counter to the good will of their citizens, as I listed above in Welcome to the New World Order. Kim Jung Un is the world's most oppressive leader to his people.
Tanzanian President John Magufuli - oh never mind, he is dead.
Jovenel Moïse, the President of Haiti - oh never mind, he is dead too
Shinzo Abe, PM of Japan - oh F@@@
Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico!!! Still alive after being shot, YAY!
LOL....point taken.
Where do you think we are? All destiny shalt lead to eternal darkness and despair, as is proven by the many disasters we have faced throughout this history,
The New World Order is eternal. Suicide is our only respite.
That's assuming the purpose of our being here is to be happy. Which is only an assumption.
And yet...we abide.
Nihilism is a philosophy that is its own punishment. If the victory of "the dark" was inevitable, they would not be trying so desperately to cling to power.
Desperate (and increasingly foolish actions) are not the moves of an entity confident in its ability to remain in power.
Knowledge banishes ignorance, so too does letting your own internal light scatter the darkness.
Knowing that you are far from alone, that we are far from weak, that the dark inevitably runs screaming into the void within void...
Despair will gain you nothing. And we are all here...because there is a job to do. You know if you are doing it, and nobody else needs to tell you that.
http://annavonreitz.com/rainyevening.pdf
Yes, they do, and it's happening in real time.
China that has lifted 820 million out of poverty into the middle class. Putin saved his people from an economy broken by its own system and then devastated by European and American oligarchs. What kind of system would you recommend?
They are God. We are slaves.
They are God. We are slaves.
They are God. We are slaves.
They are God. We are slaves.
They are God. We are slaves.
They are God. We are slaves.
They are God. We are slaves.
They are God. We are slaves.
What Jews?
Have a better theory ?
There is still a difference between "We are slaves" and "They would like to enslave us". I prefer the latter, don't you? The old Jewish families are trying their best to capture and imprison the world but it is all falling apart in their hands like wet cardboard. I refuse to believe that Russia, China, NK and Iran are part of that plan. I believe these countries are the true stick in the spokes that will eventually upend these satanists and lead them to self-destruction.
Another Game, Set and Match for you Denis!
Your comment is like a spear into the heart - impossible to avoid and heartbreaking to realize if you didnt know before that BRICS is more of the same.
Maybe. But I'm not yet convinced as I see BRICS as an alternative universe being opened. What I mean by that is that BRICS is indeed supporting many of the concepts listed by Denis but if you look further, they are supporting not the current version of these but their own version. For example, they want the UN to be stronger but not dominated by the same Washington. They want the WHO to be reformed and not dominated by the likes of Bill Gates and Big Pharma.
The principles behind these organisations have always been valid, but unfortunately corrupted by powerful forces behind the scenes. BRICS wants to keep them but remove the corruption.
Just my opinion.
I dont think your are naive Victor but there is an amount of wishful thinking there. BRICS supporting the climate scam is unforgivable. Thinking the all corrupt UN, WHO and IMF will secure a peaceful prosperous world is not, i will say it mildy, realistic. You will have to hang them all, so to speak.
Having russian oligarchs, chines triads or african cannibals leading alternatives is not my choice for a better world.
Climate scam? So many made global warming is not a thing?
If there is a global warming or cooling it is not man made. The CO2 rise is man made and thank God we made it. We had 230ppm in the 1870 when there was bad harvest all over Europe. The red line for vegetation is about 180ppm CO2 (you know green leaves eat CO2?). In a green house they push in CO2 at levels about 2000ppm.
We are at the 428ppm level and what we have seen the last 30 years is that vegetation is increasing. Very good.
The warming is all natural. Do we need another Ice ageP
Agreed. Can't fix a problem with the same consciousness that created it, and all that. Ain't nothing changing in any meaningful way until Treta yuga, some millennia away. Sure, things may ease up over the centuries, but the dynamic is pretty constant here on Earth. Even the Atlanteans destroyed themselves... : )
Fair enough.
Time will tell soon enough.
We already know what fate hast in store for us. And it is only despair eternal.
I got some blue pills I could share:-)
Part of the problem with truth seeking, Mikey, is that one doesn't like what one finds there, but at least there is clarity in knowing how the world operates and what's coming down the pipeline and prepare how best to weather the storm.
Agree. The truth will set you free. It is not comfortable but the only way. Keep up the good work!
Keep up the good work, too, Mikey. All we want is the truth in a world filled with scripted lies.
And the truth is an eternal darkness in which no hope, love, or joy shalt exist.
Truth leads to light, hope, love and joy.
It is impossible to survive this. We are all going to die. All of our hope is vanquished eternal.
Indeed! Hope is but a delusion.
The spear of despair and the blackpills of truth are the tools of the wise!
BRICs is simply a glorified dorm room bull session.
Nothing more.
@Victor
Life imititating art imititating life...
Season 1 Episode 23
"A Taste of Armageddon"
https://youtu.be/QvtD4aHfB6Y?si=jSX0kYkwC6L-tluL
There is no hope left. All is darkness and misery eternal.
Okay, who were the only three leaders to oppose Covid vaccines who were "liquidated" because they opposed the vaccinex?
If you don't know that, then you weren't paying attention at the onset of the global plandemic genocide. It still continues.
Of course, the ultimate sanction, paid by five national presidents so far in this current context, is assassination. See ‘Five Presidents Who Opposed Covid Vaccines Have Conveniently Died, Been Replaced by Pro-Vaxxers’.
And Emanuel Pastreich makes a compelling argument that Shinzo Abe, the powerful immediate-past Prime Minister of Japan, suffered the same fate because of his ongoing resistance to fundamental elements of the Elite agenda. Moreover, there are other key political figures who are probably in this category, not to mention those sidelined rather than assassinated.
Abe was the highest ranking victim so far of the hidden cancer eating away at governance in nation states around the world, an institutional sickness that moves decision making away from national governments to a network of privately-held supercomputer banks, private equity groups, for-hire intelligence firms in Tel Aviv, London and Reston, and the strategic thinkers employed by the billionaires at the World Economic Forum, NATO, the World Bank and other such awesome institutions.
In parallel with the removal or sidelining of non-compliant leaders, elite wealth has long been deployed ‘to create invisible networks for secret global governance, best represented by the World Economic Forum’s Young Global Leaders program and the Schwarzman Scholars program. These rising figures in policy infiltrate the governments, the industries, and research institutions of nations to make sure that the globalist agenda goes forth unimpeded.’ See ‘The Assassination of Archduke Shinzo Abe: When the Globalists Crossed the Rubicon’.
As a result of formal political submission to the elite agenda, supposedly basic human rights – such as freedom of speech, assembly and movement – have been eviscerated under the various lockdown, curfew and martial law measures with many people attempting to exercise these rights quickly discovering that they no longer exist except, perhaps, in the very narrowest of circles or in particular contexts.
But perhaps constitutional lawyer John W. Whitehead, in collaboration with Nisha Whitehead, captures the true depth of what has transpired in these two paragraphs about the United States but equally applicable to other countries:
Not only have the federal and state governments unraveled the constitutional fabric of the nation with lockdown mandates that sent the economy into a tailspin and wrought havoc with our liberties, but they have almost persuaded the citizenry to depend on the government for financial handouts, medical intervention, protection and sustenance.
This past year under lockdown was a lesson in many things, but most of all, it was a lesson in how to indoctrinate a populace to love and obey Big Brother. See ‘After a Year Under Lockdown, Will Our Freedoms Survive the Tyranny of COVID-19?’
But ‘Big Brother’ isn’t the government. It is those elite figures who are largely, or completely, hidden from public view and about whom you hear nothing of substance, if you hear anything at all.
Still, this doesn’t stop their agents, such as those in the Council for Inclusive Capitalism, from telling you what they are doing. It’s just that not many people are paying attention.
As noted by Brandon Smith: ‘Members of the CIC, including the head of Bank of America, openly suggest that they don’t actually need governments to cooperate in order to meet their goals. They say corporations can implement most social engineering without political aid. In other words, it is the very definition of “shadow government” – A massive corporate cabal that works in tandem to implement social changes without any oversight.’ See ‘What Is The “Council For Inclusive Capitalism?” It’s The New World Order’.
If you still believe that we can get out of this mess by lobbying governments or electing a different political party into government, you can read more on how the world really works in ‘Killing Democracy Once and for All: The Global Elite’s Coup d’état That Is Destroying Life as We Know It’.
Indeed, even that pro-active German lawyer, I forget his name, who tried to take the whole thing to court, still languishes in prison on trumped-up, Assange-like charges. Enough said.
Reiner Fuellmich. And the French woman that helped him was charged with treason by Macron's regime.
Yes, that's the chap - thank you. I do salute his bravery, and he should not be forgotten... Even at the time, you knew it wasn't going to end well for him. But he lives his dharma.
Legislatures were eclipsed by the executive more than a century ago but that was because representation in legislatures came to incorporate the working class. It couldn't have happened had the legislatures opposed it.
Not sure your framing holds up, or at least, it risks romanticising what was, in reality, a deeply cynical calculus by the ruling classes. If anything, the eclipse of legislatures by executive power began nearly two centuries ago, not one. The 1840s are a more accurate benchmark, when industrialisation, enclosure, and the systematic dismantling of common law liberties produced not inclusion, but insurrection.
In the Uk for example: the Enclosure Acts tore ancestral rights from the commons, industrialisation herded the working class into slums, and the legal system, once rooted in community memory, became a mechanism of extraction. The result wasn’t political empowerment but sabotage, protest, and open rebellion. Toll gates and tax posts were smashed; infrastructure was deliberately targeted. The state had declared war on its own people in everything but name.
Even the Gordon Riots of 1780, usually remembered as sectarian, were symptomatic of a deeper malaise. A crowd, incited by Catholic aristocrats, burned Newgate Prison to the ground and attacked magistrates’ homes. London suffered more physical destruction in ten days than Paris did across the entire French Revolution. The message was clear: the people were done asking politely.
And what was the establishment’s response? Certainly not a benevolent opening of the democratic process. When the vote was extended, it was done with surgical precision, not to uplift the working class, but to absorb the middle class and neutralise them. The 1832 Reform Act lowered property qualifications just enough to enfranchise the aspirational merchant and professional classes. In other words: a velvet bribe. The ruling elite widened the tent to avoid being torn down.
This wasn't some organic incorporation of the working class. It was a containment strategy — a recalibration of power disguised as progress. Legislatures didn’t oppose this shift; they engineered it. Because the true aim was never representation, it was preservation.
I know the history but as I wrote, the castration of legislatures reflected the extension of the franchise. Lloyd George took a big step by expanding the Cabinet Office during the Great War. In France, governments of the Third Republic didn't last many months on average yet the French state and society didn't collapse, suggestive of government taking place elsewhere. The 1840s are too early, governments weren't comprehensive enough to do it for another fifty or sixty years. Look at the 1867 and 1884 Reform acts.
I hear you, and you’re not wrong about the late 19th and early 20th centuries; the 1867 and 1884 Reform Acts, the growth of the Cabinet Office, and wartime centralisation under Lloyd George were all major moves. But I’d argue these were not the beginning of the process, but its consolidation.
The decisive shift came earlier, not through bureaucratic capacity alone, but through structural repositioning of power and narrative. By the mid-19th century, the executive had already begun bypassing popular will by neutralising its most threatening forms of dissent. The working class wasn’t so much “incorporated” as it was outflanked.
The extension of the franchise, far from being a moment of empowerment, was a containment strategy, a way to bring the aspirant middle classes into the fold once the truly radical voices had been crushed, bought off, or outmanoeuvred. Parliament remained, but its oppositional function had been hollowed out. You could vote, but only within a framework designed to perpetuate existing power.
And yes, by the time of the Great War, the Cabinet Office simply made visible what had long been happening: the movement of real power away from public view, not just into the executive, but into unelected networks: finance, colonial administration, private interests. What we’re now seeing - with corporate capture, technocratic governance, and “shadow” institutions- is just the logical endgame of a trajectory that began with enclosure, empire, and the industrialisation of society itself.
So I don’t think it’s enough to say the legislature was “castrated” because of the franchise. I’d argue the reverse: the franchise was extended because the legislature had already been castrated.
No response to my answer above?
There were two responses I read. One was basically, you can't expect things to change all at once. Another was, the principles of these organizations are maybe sound, but the actors and the actual processes to date have been rotten. So maybe changing the actors might change some reasons.
Anyway I'll ask you back, would you agree all this some kind of evolution? Or not? If yes, then presumably we can expect both gradual and quantum changes, where both kinds are actually unpredictable aren't they? In which case we don't really know what to expect...? In the long run or the short run, anything's possible. Maybe theoretically, but still.
If no, then human life is hopeless and your despair at the current situation is kind of.... banal? Or theatrical? Given that if this world isn't in a state of evolution then every moment of our entire human history has been hopeless, with this moment no more or less so than any other moment. Logically, wouldn't that be true?
Not that I'm optimistic per se. But pessimistic, I don't know about that either actually.
Who are the three leaders that they offed for opposing vaccine?
US and Europe want their billionaires ruling the world as they have for 500 years. (rules based intl order) While BRICS wants their billionaires to enjoy their own rent seeking in full lol. UN based intl order with more members like India and continental Africa on UN sec council. That's about the only difference.
Look, look, over here, it's the 'wicked' Russians/Chinese or the New World Order.
Don't look over there at the plutocrats and the M.I.C., there's nothing to see?
All of that sounds terrible and true. I didn't like to read it.
I ask myself what support should I have for BRICS now?
And I answer myself simply on the grounds of increased and freer trade.
If I've got it right america has been telling the whole world who can trade with whom and how. Effectively choking, strangling, the whole world.
If BRICS trading bloc is the same really our current trading bloc (i.e.american diktat ) then at least we now have two.
Goods may begin to flow more naturally. Market forces to operate more purely.
I hope.
I think of nordstream. A global good, killed by the usa. And the china-russia railways, a global good not (yet) killed by the usa.
Two illustrations of free trade both hated by the usa. F*** the usa.
There will be no such thing, the Yids wont even keep their global banking monopoly, let alone govern the world. Preposterous nonsense from an arrogant and delusional group
Not exactly.. BRICS+ does not compel any member to comply with any rules formula like the EU, UN, etc... It has no secretariat that is a watchdog or a controlling mechanism.. Well and good if this stays so.. Take for instance India.. It is the founding member but has not relinquished autonomy to do as she wishes..
The BRICS are largely focused on materially improving life for all their population.
The western colonialists are focused on war, theft and mass murder to benefit their 0.1% richest oligarchs. Hunger and poverty and homelessness is growing in the west...while stock market and total wealth of their rich rises. Top 1% owns 50% of wealth, according to latest research by the bank UBS.
https://www.ubs.com/global/en/wealthmanagement/insights/global-wealth-report.html
No comparison whatsoever.
Well done.
Other side of the same coin.
Capitalism's potential for failure is enhanced when money can be printed out of thin air and those closest to its first use (Cantillon Effect) benefit the most. Fractional reserve banking, creates unbacked fiat currency through debt to buy politicians who in turn write favorable laws for corporations and banks. After all, a politician must be able to pay for the things that he promises if he is to get re-elected. This is the start of fascism, the duopoly of control by corporations and the government, now called corporatism. The Jews understand this very well.
Exactly.
BRICS is trying to play nice because it has to. Once it attains dominance it will become clear it is to China what NATO is to the US.
BRICS having blind spots, DOES NOT equate to it being "just the same as the Collective Waste."
>There are various reports going around that through the usual Swiss back channels Trump’s administration essentially informed Iran of the strikes, implying that as long as Iran does not respond it will be a ‘one-off’ attack.
Which would be a grave mistake by Iran. Because:
>This is not Trump’s first time: recall the infamous 2017 Tomahawk attack on Syria’s Shayrat base which was billed as some kind of ‘devastating’ deathblow, when it turned out to be a show-strike nothingburger which left a few potholes on the runway and did no real damage. This is Trump’s way of alleviating neocon pressure—a sort of purity test for his Israeli handlers.
Yes, and what happened eventually? Syria was bombed relentlessly by Israel for years after that, was hollowed out by the combination of those strikes and sanctions, and eventually collapsed. Which is what will happen here if a firm "no more" line in the sand is not drawn.
But if Iran agreed on symbolic strikes, it has now opened itself up for that kind of death spiral to commence.
>Now, there are rumors that Israel may use the given ‘off-ramp’ as pretense to likewise conclude a new deal and end hostilities, given that Israel has exhausted itself and is now losing a war of attrition against Iran.
Then the war will end in Israeli victory. They will have established that they can strike Iran whenever they feel like, at very sensitive targets too, the US can also do it, and there will be no consequences.
The only way Iran emerges out of this on a somewhat good future trajectory is if it demonstrates working thermonuclear warheads plus ICBMs in the next weeks to months.
In fact, if they have working ICBMs (rumors are that they do), they should fire one of those at Whiteman AFB to take out a few B-2s with conventional MaRVs. The B-2s sit in hangars that are nice fixed targets. Then do an underground nuclear test simultaneously. But they don't have the balls to do it.
Being a Rambo, eh?
Nuke time again!
GM, let me be the first to say you're right on a lot of stuff but I think you do get carried away a little.
For example, instead of using nukes, Russia could simply sink one or two US aircraft carriers. They seem to know how to quite well. If they didn't want to get their hands dirty, they could give those missiles to the Houthis, similar to how NATO arms Ukraine to attack Russia.
How would the loss of a few aircraft carriers temper the mood in Washington?
>For example, instead of using nukes, Russia could simply sink one or two US aircraft carriers
I didn't mention using nukes in this particular post at all.
And yes, Russia should have sunk air craft carriers.
When the Moskva was sunk, that was mandatory reaction.
Sink one of the two UK carriers (because it was the British who sunk the Moskva) as a punishment for the Moskva.
Then sink the other one too as a punishment for starting it.
Then declare that we are even unless there are further provocations. Should have been done by the end of April 2022. It wasn't, and you see where we are now.
>How would the loss of a few aircraft carriers temper the mood in Washington?
It's not so much the loss of the aircraft, though that will definitely hurt. It is the fact that the aircraft participated in the attack, and so destroying them is proper retaliation.
But more importantly, sending an ICBM with MaRVs from Iran to hit those hangars in Missouri while doing a public nuclear test at the same time will establish deterrence. By doing that Iran will show that:
1) It has nukes
2) It has the capability to deliver them to the CONUS (extremely important -- if it just had nukes but no intercontinental delivery systems, Iran would be wide open to a US firt strike)
3) It has the resolve to strike at the CONUS.
So next time the US carries out an attack of any kind, NYC and the SF Bay Area will be gone, thus the US will never dare, just as it dares not touch North Korea.
GM, you make a lot of good points and I think you take a lot of criticism on here that is unfair.
It is logic but US wouldnt answer in a logic way. The mindset of Americans are gamblers. Bluff or all-in. If you grab a weapon - use it.
There is no afterthought just spine-reactions.
I think China, Russia and Iran knows that they have a ”mental” in the house.
No, the US has behaved in a very logical and rational way.
They do things that look insane because the expectation is that there would be a harsh reaction.
But there never is, so they keep doing them. Which is very much rational.
The way out of this is to break their "we can get away with this too because our enemies are cowards and/or internally compromised" calculations by reacting harshly and directly against them
Russia and China have become complacent. Especially Russia, given many many opportunities to give a serious response to the west, yet it keeps the operation theatre in Ukraine, bombing the shit out of it like there's no tomorrow. You sound more like Brian Berlitic. Anyhow I have given up on Russia, the smo has proven that they are very weak and scared to hit the 'real' decision centers. Zelensky is irrelevant. Although he is a good skilled begger.
It is very easy to like your writing GM.
I agree something must be done to break their mentality of always getting away. That goes for Israel too.
What I mean is that when we do your ”lesson” in Whiteman AFB there will not be any logical and rational thinking in US. Pure spine and reptile brain-signals. They wouldnt understand the teaching as you and I understands the logic behind.
The recent developments in Iran seem to have upped the credibility of GM's rationale around here? I picture Jack Nicholson growling that "YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUUUUUUTH!!!"
And if you don't use that weapon, that simply invites the Americans to keep hitting harder.
If history serves then Russia will tell Iran to 'Turn the other Cheek'.
Yes exactly. More like a storm in a glass of water.
I hope that US aircraft carrier engine room crews have had a lot of practice stopping nuclear reactors a bit sharpish....
The neocons would invade Yemen as readily as Iran or Iraq. The specific theater doesn’t matter that much to them.
Syria also didn’t strike targets like the Israeli stock exchange in downtown Tel Aviv. Also, “not responding” doesn’t mean Iran won’t continue its shooting war with Israel, and in fact it’s being reported that Iran has vowed to punish Israel for the US strikes, which certainly gives credence to the theory that the attacks were a scripted event to give the US a convenient exit.
As far as the resistance is concerned has anything played out as stated by altmedia the player concerned or has there only been underperformance or acquiescence or closer capitulation to Isreal. Why should Iran stand-up this time and be different.
I don’t think so, they just need to keep the pressure on Israel a little at a time. It’s Iran that has shown that they can hit any target in Israel and Israel has no mountains, nowhere to retreat to, and relies on a set of extremely soft targets for survival. There are plenty of rungs left in the escalation ladder. Going too big now gives the US a reason to escalate. Time is on their side. Israel burned a huge amount on intel and spies for this latest failed regime change gambit. Iran is a huge country with massive resources and potential. They only have to survive to win. Israel may “win” in the global media that they control but it’s totally hollow as long as Iran’s technological progress and alliances with China and Russia continue. Iran didn’t want to enter a military alliance with Russia before this little dust up. If they change their minds it’s game over for Israel. China and Russia haven’t entered because they don’t need to. If Iran is really losing they will. Syria was expendable. Lebanon as well but something tells me we haven’t heard the last of hizbullah. Israel will continue to act with impunity so long as the US is behind them but that has an expiration date too, look at the polls of young people in the US. Someday there will be an administration in the US that will hang them out to dry. They may decide to nuke somebody out of desperation but that will truly be the end. There is almost no sympathy left for them. They have burned almost every bridge and they keep on going because they have no other option. That’s an exhausting trajectory for a nation when forward progress requires atrocity after atrocity. They will never be able to stop and that’s why they have failed comprehensively. They just don’t know it yet because they’re on a hamster wheel.
The eventual loss of U.S. being it's major enabler might spell the end of the Zionist Occupation Regime in Palestine.
In the meanwhile, an increasing number of European and Asian nations are barring Israeli tourists from their countries owing to their shitty behavior compounding the pre-existing hostility due to the Gaza genocide and the bellicose actions against all their neighbors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGL8ZCd9Tao
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Q5NtpqQilzYp/
Looks like the backlash against those Israeli asshole soccer fans in Holland which provoked the anger from both the Dutchmen and the Muslims from late last year was just a harbinger of them becoming a pariah state worldwide.
Since trump already is talking regime change, stop kidding yourself.
When *hasn't* the "leadership" in the US talked about regime change? But Francisco's point about the changing attitude toward Israel in the US, especially among the younger cohort, is right. As is polling that shows the overwhelming majority of Americans against war with Iran, which is the only way regime change can be realistically effected.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
And he's right for the most part, there will be some (and already are) who suck it down like babies suck down pablum but I don't think it will be as easy a sell as it was in the past.
A whole lot of water has passed under the bridge over the past 5 years what with the covid lockdowns and mandates and the resulting economic devastation. Coupled with the whole DEI push, including in the military, where white males - already castigated as "deplorables" by Hillary and her ilk - were effectively treated like second class citizens. I mean, when you have veterans for whom military service has been a family tradition for generations telling their sons and daughters not to join the service, you have a serious problem.
People are struggling to keep their families' heads above water financially at home. It's true that some people enlist for financial reasons but I don't think that will save the day for the warmongers this time around. It's not just the steady pay, it's the medical benefits and have you heard any praiseworthy stories about the VA lately? I can't recall that I have. And another incentive, a college degree, is being increasingly seen as very expensive but useless when it comes to job prospects.
I could be wrong but the only thing I see that might get people on board with going to war is a false flag. A lot of people are prophesying that there will be one and I wouldn't lay odds because it's not like we haven't seen such things before.
Yup. Nobody of influence and authority cares. As long as they have theirs, the system will stay in place.
GM,
Vox's take on this says it better than I can:
https://voxday.net/2025/06/17/iran-has-nukes/
The US will curse the day they went to war against Iran. Biggest mistake ever.
Orange Man believes he has all the cards but he is wrong.
He's that ignorant even with all the cards, he'd play the wrong ones.
And when you point out he's cheating at cards he shoots you.
As I always say, "It's all about domestic consumption".
Even if its Trumps newly appointed cabinet member who gets shot.
What a bunch of Baghdad Bobs here. Oh my Lord. I can’t believe I’m paying for this crap. I gotta cancel my subscription. This is like Monty Python and the holy Grail with a knight that has all his arms and legs cut off by his opponent,and thinks it’s a draw. I mean it’s just a horrible joke over here. You’re just…what the hell…I mean it’s just beyond any conception level of delusion here. Scary as hell that’s for sure.
Wow, that's a lot of words and posing without actually saying anything. If you disagree specifically with what people are writing, say why and provide a counter example. If you don't do that, you're part of the problem.
For example, do you really think it is a high point in professional leadership for Trump to publicly mock Tulsi Gabbard when she told the truth about what the consensus on Iranian nukes is of the what? is it 25 or 27? intelligence agencies which she oversees?
The overwhelming consensus of the US intelligence community, which ranges from civilian agencies like the CIA and NSA to military intelligence agencies, is that Iran was NOT (let's use Trump's precedent of applying ALL CAPS for IMPORTANT words) developing nuclear weapons, and that the ayatollah's religious command in 2003 to stop their nuclear weapons program continues to be honored to this day.
That's a big deal whether low IQ consumers of propaganda for morons on Fox news realize it or not. The US's intelligence agencies, on which the US spends hundreds of billions, told the truth as they saw it and Tulsi Gabbard reported their findings truthfully. That Trump rejected their information along with rejecting the advice of Vance and other sensible people and instead went along with a bunch of Israeli propaganda for morons and "thoughts" from neocons who don't even know exactly what an atom is, and he did that at risk of nuclear explosions in US cities, is a new low point in US leadership. That's a heck of an anti-accomplishment given the extreme idiocy of some of what Biden and Obama did.
In point of fact, Iran did not get all of its arms and legs cut off by any opponent. The US struck mostly empty facilities (everything valuable within them was moved out months ago) and the claims of Iran's nuclear program being totally destroyed is plain and simple propaganda for morons. It's highly unlikely that the six "bunker busters" dropped on Fordow did significant damage even to the empty facility... if you pay attention you'll note the US has been busy walking back Trump's claims of total destruction to "we've yet to assess" and "not destroyed but delayed...".
What Trump staged was a reality show for morons. He exploded a lot of ordnance to blow the heck out of sand and some empty facilities on the surface, so he can claim "We kicked the life out of them and now we won" and braying jackasses who don't know anything about Iran or reality will buy that and Trump will get plenty of "likes." But what he did was extraordinarily dangerous in terms of a) guaranteeing that Iran will now develop nukes, b) guaranteeing that now every "edge" state will develop nukes, and c) guaranteeing that sooner or later the US is going to bomb somebody who has nukes emplaced in US cities and millions of Americans will die. It's like the imbecile teenagers on TikTok who were swallowing Tide detergent capsules for "likes," but Trump is killing people and risking nuclear destruction for his likes.
And that the great majority of the US population is happy as clams being marinated in 24/7 total lies about basically everything is why that's happening.
More it will be Israel doing the cursing.
Because most of the parasites in charge of the US had strayed away from our Founders' wise counsel against foreign interventionism long ago, we've become the most hated nation on earth within my lifetime. This article from 2013 explains why.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/03/fred-reed/the-view-from-abroad/
With the ongoing Gaza shitshow and Satanyahoo trying to start a regional war that will endanger the world economy, I reckon Israel is now tied with us.
Americans never curse their mistakes. They just tell lies about what happened until they start believing their own lives.
"Who ya gonna believe...me, or your lying eyes?" The American voting populace is the kid's table at Thanksgiving. "White meat or dark meat, Billy?" It's all turkey. No matter who you waste your time voting for, you always get more war. If Russia, China and Iran don't prevail, the BRICS future is throttled in the crib. An agreement with the war mongering west?! I don't think so. It's all western piracy as we've seen for hundreds of years-everywhere. Bigly sad. President Toddler is as bad or worse than former Resident, Vegetable Lasagna.
No matter who you vote for you always get the Jew.
Well put and 😂
Realistic views are discouraged. Ignorant views are encouraged. It's about pacifying the masses, not getting informed consent. Bread, circuses and military glory, however manufactured.
Theoretically, someone is supposed to be realistic, but that is more and more optional with time.
I messaged the White House and said the exact same thing... Chip
Biggest American Mistake? Letting Dual Citizenship with conflicting loyalties so the Specials could bribe American Politicians with money churned and stolen from Americans.
No nation has ever stolen as much as the so called 'American' - okay, maybe the little brits but those are your cousins
Apparently we didn't. But keep stamping your feet anyway.
Yeah I got it wrong. Seems the order Trump made to the US military was, "go pound sand".
No it was a toss off comment at the end of a long day. A case could be made that 1953 was when the US first went to war against Persia. It's ambivalent as a comment and may yet prove true.
The different perspective I bring is in personally knowing a lot of Persian people. Like all our other enemies, many lies have been told.
If nothing else our ill advised actions galvanize the Iranian public just like all our magic has done to countries all around the globe. Oh they may quiet down for a bit, but they don't forget. Not like we do!
Why?
Oh where to start. I have had some very dear friends from Iran. Always competent, stubborn, brilliant and NOT addicted. Extremely family oriented. Ok they got stuff we want, we will pay!
Somehow, that is not real convincing.
Blabbering alert. It's summer here for such a short while. My fatigue varies, but does not go away. Of the 7 countries identified for destruction, Iran is the last standing. That is not a coincidence.
Yup. What happened to the other six?
Look we have agreed in the past, either be specific or we'll take a break from this. They are all under pressure to conform to Israeli demands. They face systemic infiltration and destruction. The end of Libya has certainly changed the facts on the ground for Europe and for Libyan women in particular.
Israel has failed to annihilate Gaza, have a look at the map of Iran. When all ya got are dirty tricks and war you should have better insurance than US hegemony. Negotiations are forever suspect. Its big stick time!
Which "war"? Did you even tried to read the article? Lol...
What a great question. The one "we" started in 1953 with Iran and all the rest of the world that dares to act like we did, during our declaration of Independence phase. 1776? When freedom and rights were universal, not just for psychopathic, regime changing, genocidal lunatics.
At some point we will regret our course, it could be too late.
All I care about, here in the US, is that we don't have enough Roman Catholic, Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Shinto, Zoroastrians, etc... working in Wall Street.
Maybe Trump did the right thing after all... satisfy the AIPAC Rambos in America, threw some meat for the Fundamentalist Christian Zionists and kept the Globalists happy while offering the fool of Netanyahu a way out from his huge mistake on attacking Iran.
Perhaps Trump really does deserve the Nobel Peace Prize... assuming it means anything after Obola The Magnificent took it.
Here in the US, a big tell is how little this is being covered by the Corporate Media...
Why would superstition matter? Financial manipulation is a matter of amoral pragmatism, not superstitious mumbo-jumbo.
I think you missed my point.
Religion, ethnicity and politics often go together....
No, unless you mean in Puritan America.
Happening right now..... Jewish Zionism and Christian Zionism (*).... that can be a big issue.
My point is that Zionism has too much power over American Politics and Wall Street.
(*) Mind you, I don't believe that American Fundamentalists are Christian... I don't know what they are. Perhaps Jews that believe Christ is the Messiah?
They are beards.
Oh and zionism isn't Jewish, it's antisemite. Christian zionism is a misnomer because proddies aren't chris and zionists are antisemites.
Iran will close Hormuz to traffic to Europe and US, meaning Europe deindustrialises further (Stupid f'king morons demanded Iran quit even civilian enrichment - just begging to be hurt!); the sailors on the Nimitz gotta feel like they missed an Israeli bullet if Nuttyahoo instead wishes to de-escalate instead of sinking them in a planned false flag; Americans get to ra-ra about their "Invincible" military a little while longer; Iran dodges being nuked (For now); the NPT is looking very shaky; Trump gets to brag emptily; the Demonrats have cause for impeachment and will likely take the midterms; and everyone gets to watch the genocide in Gaza continue.
Israelis got to wonder WTF was the point of all that, while they repair their destroyed infrastructure - themselves, as only the most masochistic of the non-Jewish foreign workers there will remain after being kicked out of the bomb shelters.
If the war does end, I suspect many of the occupying regime's best and brightest will leave the country at the earliest opportunity. Until then, however, this regime will continue to be on the wrong end of hundreds of Iranian next generation missiles destroying more and more of their critical infrastructure. Iran has clearly stated that it intends to punish the zionists severely and make them 'helpless'. I believe they intend to do just that before they agree to end it all.
I hope reality pans out as you believe in the above comment as that will grind out the Zionists regime but all past announcement are backtracked.
We can all expect our insurance rates to go up.
And inflation.
Iran isn't closing off anything. It would be a symmetrical fight. They'll do something more creative than that.
Might be right. I did see they were sending some ships back that tried to enter, but that might be BS/something else causing it.
I imagine Russia and China are being creative too behind the scenes!
Voting won't change anything, but the Praetorian guard certainly can. Listening to Judge Napolitano it would be accurate to say Trump over stepped his authority so this would be the perfect trigger for impeachment proceedings, rendering the VP of Israel somewhat impotent. Then of course the missiles heading to Israel continued. How long before Bibi's minders are done with him? He's making Kissenger's prediction into a reality. And then again, the OCGFC is done with the Rothschild project and are prepared to move onto bigger fish in Asia via connection to the heartland.
The ball was never in Iran's court; it was always in China's court. China could stop the West from destroying Iran, by forcefully supporting Iran, although at great cost to China's export-to-the-West economic model. It appears that Trump may have received an agreement from China during the "trade talks" for China to stay out of America's way in the middle east. Also recall that in the previous two conversations, Putin and Trump spent more time discussing Iran than Ukraine. It seems that both Russia and China have agreed to allow Trump a free hand in destroying Iran in exchange for concessions- US reducing assistance to Ukraine and reducing tariffs on China. If true, such agreements would be remarkably short-sighted as US dominance of the middle east will haunt Russia and China for decades.
Possibly not destroy Iran.
Possibly carry out an essentially false "punitive" strike without hindrance, for purely domestic political reasons?
Carter destroyed his presidency in the Iranian desert. A guarantee that that won't happen again is worth having.
A wise take.
The Chinese aren't going to make any bold moves to back stop Iran or anyone else. It's not their nature or style. The Chinese bureaucrat like the Chinese businessman is highly intelligent but also conservative and cautious.
It's a bit of a cliché, but their mental map of competition and the world is much more like the game Go than the game Chess. Go (围棋 wéiqí) is the game of encirclement, no bold Chess moves to bust through the lines and capture the King are possible.
Everything we see and will continue to see coming out of Beijing is the careful implementation of plans that were drawn up not years but decades ago.
You maybe familiar with the current situation in Rare Earth materials, that's the fruition of at least 30 years of Chinese hard work.
The China - Iran railway is such a plan, as is the 25 year $400 billion deal Beijing and Tehran signed in 2021. Ports, airports, railways, motorways, oil refineries, power stations, schools and universities, these are all Chinese stones on the board.
The media propaganda and psychological operations that are so popular in the West can produce powerful results, but their effects are essentially illusory and transitory. Steel, uranium, cement, oil and grain and cannot just be wished into or out of existence by manipulating human thought.
I'm not saying that Beijing is totally immune to Western psy-ops, but their particular psyche, culture and government makes them pretty damned immune to them.
"Washington used Media Campaign (Psychic) !"
"It's not very effective..."
"Beijing used Infrastructure Development (Earth) !"
"It's super effective!"
The ball was never in Iran's court.
Lol really? They prepared for decades and now they are acing Israel every serve. Trying to muddy the situation discussing Chinese or Russian support misses the point that Iran has held its own. If they need support they will get it, but neither China or Russia will be stupid enough to get bogged down in a faraway war.
It doesn’t matter that this is what happened (a symbolic strike expecting Iran to reciprocate).
The fact is, the U.S. hit a peaceful nuclear site of a sovereign country then went on TV to warn them of retaliating. This is not just a face saving matter (although by now I don’t know why anyone would still play that game) but it also legitimizes a criminal act and invites further aggression on Iran and others.
Let’s just be clear here: Iran is well within its right to respond in a proportional matter. They might decide to intensify their attacks on Israel or asymmetrically, but a “symbolic” retaliation just looks weak and will not have good long term consequences.
Anyone who thinks the real owners of the U.S. will accept this and go home are delusional. They will put pressure on Trump and he’ll just start the next phase.
It. Is. Inevitable.
It was criminal and sets the big stones in motion.
Next thing will be Ukraine blowing up NPP:s in Ukraine and Russia…
As the Zionists in Israel have been utterly pounded and can’t take it much more or longer, they won’t have an alternative, neither does the US have the resources for a long and very risky hot war with Iran. But they will go back to their destabilization, sanctions and regime change illusions and pipe dreams. That’s all they could do than risk their own destruction in the Middle East.
"Anyone who thinks the real owners of the U.S. will accept this and go home are delusional. They will put pressure on Trump and he’ll just start the next phase."
Not a few hours after the dust settled and Trump starts talking regime change, doubtless emboldened by the feeble Iranian response.
Yep. A stong onus on Iran to reestablish deterrence. That said, continuing the war of attrition v Israel is its best bet.
It was a complete fake if this is correct, that no earthquake activity was recorded...https://x.com/DrNagase/status/1936667903396557008
awesome
Nah. Those bombs dont cause a earthquake. They slice through and then explode.
Bunker buster weapons will defiantly create detectable seismic activity.
What the italian claimed was no activity above 2,5.
2,5 is something really big. The Toropets ammodump in Russia had 10-12 explosions above 2,0.
Eartquake is something else in my world.
This is ONE SUPER STUPID 'CLOWN SHOW' so this is how modern wars are fought? Everything is meaningless. Whats the point of even analyzing operations if it is all scripted. Were decoding scripts that were most likely written on chatbots.
The events of just the last few years have shown that there is no making peace with Israel. Any peace process is simply a tool used as a weapon of war.
Israel will simply use this time to make a new plan to attack Iran, one where they have a better chance of neutralizing Iran's missiles.
Exactly. There can be no peace with an enemy whose goal is your total destruction. This is what Russia, China, and Iran face with the US and Israel. They have to manage the conflict very very patiently to keep from escalating. Imagine fighting someone who wants to die. People call Islam or Israel a death cult but there’s something deeper going on in the west. We’ll destroy the world if we can’t rule it completely.
Putin wants a business deal with the West.
lol! Neutralizing Iran’s missiles? In what way have they so far neutralized Iran’s missiles? On the contrary, they have been pounded beyond anything they ever expected or imagined! Did anyone ever imagine TelAviv and Haifa looking like what they’ve looked like over the last week? And every year, Iran’s missile arsenal has advanced in speed and lethality. They have devastated Israel over the last week with only a sample of their hypersonic missiles. They’ve lost this war by miscalculating from the outset and that’s why they were so desperate for Daddy Trump and the US to come and rescue them via anything including a nice “let’s GTFO here mission accomplished” theater! They don’t have any air defense missiles left, and US stocks running critically low. Even with a full load of AD, Israel has already been set on fire, let alone in a week or two as they run low and out if it continues at this pace!
Diago Garcia is in missile range. Or perhaps a cargo ship passing by turns into a drone swarm and attacks a few B2 bombers.
With unlimited money and plenty of cunning, do NOT underestimate them.
As our author has stated, the Iraq war was largely won by million dollar deposits into Iraqi Generals' bank accounts. That is but one avenue.
Israel will simply wait till the "weather" is right for the next time to strike. You can be sure they will learn from this experience.
So will Iran learn! And if Iran was able to deal this way even when they got blindsided, I think they will be far more effective and prepared and will do plenty better next time! Plus, Iran isn’t finished or in a hurry to settle at the moment, even though the Israelis are begging Daddy USA to intervene by force or rescue them with a ceasefire! I’m not underestimating anything but try not to do so either, especially as you come across like your analysis is so astute and superior as to be entirely missed by the collective understanding of Iranians at present or in the future. This is like Monday morning quarterbacking without even realizing the benefit of hindsight or assuming that what’s obvious to you is somehow easily missed by a whole nation!
They calculated with an all-out retaliatory strike from Iran. They expected 5000 casualties from this, and that would have guaranteed all-in from the US. Trump would not have had a choice.
Instead Iran has learned from the Russians. Deny the enemy the big escalation that he needs to unite all domestic power centers. Keep bleeding him white so slowly that he is paralyzed by internal strife.
A dozen rockets every night that will hit whatever Iran wants to destroy, keep the harbor and the refinery in Haifa out of business, and within weeks the Israeli citizens will remember their backup passports and choose the Samsonite Option. In retaliation Israel will hit a few targets in a country ten times as big before it runs out of missiles, and Iranians are Shi‘ites known for a culture that glorifies suffering and martyrdom.
Iran has a clear path to taking Israel out, and if they really agreed to a ceasefire and intend to keep it, then they have learned nothing and deserve all that is coming their way.
You start pretty well and little by little and by the last sentence your argument ends up in a totally contradictory conclusion reflecting a kindergartener level of emotional reasoning. Plus, Samsonite option? 😂 😂 I didn’t know Israel has a suitcase company option! Is it leather or hard plastic? 😂
I think of note is that these fake strikes allow Trump to exit but not Bibi. I would love to see Iran keep throwing missiles at Israel. Bibi and his death cult are a long term problem no sense in Iran to stop now until they can get Israel to back off them and Gaza for several years.
I completely agree - now's the time.
When will we see an Israel regime change operation conducted by Iran!?
I know you're joking but - well - never. Iran doesn't do shit like that. They have high ethics. Its a religious leader that's in charge. Good arrangement.
Nevertheless, an Israeli regime change, if for the better, would be of benefit to us all. We can but dream.
I doubt Netanyahu has too many months left in office. If this drags on he is toast.
Wishful thinking is not a strategy.
I don't agree. there were polls very recent that 86% of the population wants the genocide. This entity needs to be schmucked out of existence. I saw a video yesterday of a young woman from Palestine warning the Cypriots about letting the schmuckers stay as refugees
I don't agree. there were polls very recent that 86% of the population wants the genocide. This entity needs to be schmucked out of existence. I saw a video yesterday of a young woman from Palestine warning the Cypriots about letting the schmuckers stay as refugees
"I know you're joking but - well - never. Iran doesn't do shit like that. "
Which is precisely why the United States and Israel attack them, preferring enemies who don't fight back.