Today we have the brief but ‘stranger than fiction’ account of how a Russian T-90A tank named ‘Maestro’ ended up briefly ‘abandoned’ at a gas station in Louisiana several weeks ago, after the truck towing it to a U.S. army testing site “broke down”. The tank was left sitting overnight with no security in the parking lot of
One of the more interesting things to watch as this conflict unfolds/ends will be what a tanks role in war becomes. With precision artillery, drones, precision glide bombs, and 24/7 surveillance overwatch they really carry a huge liabilities with their firepower.
Maybe it got off the battlefield precisely because it's going to provide crap info. Otherwise I'd have expected it would have been at least burned out by a drone strike.
Gaius and Germanicus mature the Ukraine War failures to learn with the Vietnam War and Iraq War failures to learn. Michael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society.
If you were going to design a tank, you wouldn't use a fuel gobbling turbine engine ever. Turbine engines are designed for aircraft that operate at constant power in clean air at altitude. When the amerikans were supplying the Soviet Union during WWII Stalin wouldn't accept gasoline burning tanks, they had to be Diesel only. They didn't call the British model "Tommy burners" for nothing. Many Long distance sailors won't have gasoline on board for fire reasons. I had 5 fire extinguishers on my 32' sailboat for that reason. Amerika probably gets the worst value for money on the military industrial complexes than any nation on earth. Most of what flys is 50 year old designs updated and the much vaunted F35 is supposedly stealthy but I doubt that anything is as a couple of invisible US aircraft found out in Serbia and no amerikan aircraft has thrust vectored supermanuverability or serious supercruise capabilities. Sure are expensive though. Reliability and servicability, not so much. The money would have been better spent on the long suffering underclasses but who cares for the untermenchen Dreck, certainly not the ruling classes.
Apr 23, 2023·edited Apr 23, 2023Liked by Simplicius
I wonder what other equipment the Roleplaying SS squadrons have shipped to their masters in the West? Wasn't that one Russian EW truck the MSM was celebrating the capture of last year?
Eh, I say its not too much of a problem. This War has has made it clear that logistics, classic warfare, and basic weapons in great numbers are far more important than some comicbook iron man armor.
Well at least War Thunder and World of Tanks are going to get an update soon lol.
I remember, from my childhood, my elder brother bring engines into the shed to put up in block and tackles to work on. I dinked around with him and found I had an aptitude for automotive engines. Strange but true. Dinking wise. Carry on. The learning continues, many thanks, my pals❤️🇷🇺💙
Apr 23, 2023·edited Apr 23, 2023Liked by Simplicius
It's interesting to note how Russian MBT's are more evolutionary than revolutionary compared to the West (not that the West has done much in the last 40 years, with regards to tank design).
With the T90M being a different turret casting on basically a T72 chassis, the mind boggles at how many T72's could potentially be "upgraded" with a new turret and power pack plus reactive armour if Russia wanted to go that route.
As followers of SpaceX will know, Soviet/Russian metallurgy has been far ahead of the collective West for quite some time. They had full-flow, staged combustion rocket engines more than 50 years ago, that SpaceX themselves have only recently mastered.
Aberdeen Proving Grounds may well use "Maestro" as a target, to test that turrets metallurgy, as well as looking at the Russian solutions to battlefield threats/targeting.
The Twitter opinion of "Cheap, Russian garbage" was amusing to see, that tank looked like all it needed was a quick blow out of debris, replace some of the missing gear, refuel, fire it up and go. An Abrams left hatches open through a winter would be a full depot level rebuild. His point about Abrams crews constantly maintaining, hides the fact that without it, an Abrams is very quickly dead-lined. Top-line US equipment is very maintenance intensive, not something you want in a long drawn out war. US equipment is designed around quick, decisive actions, not long hard grinds.
Such silly comments. Looking inside an 18 year-old car in a junkyard, then claiming the upholstery was badly designed when it was initially built at the factory.
The steel arm rests on the chair clearly were the substructure, with someone having removed the upholstery support.
The Tank was clearly well used and worn out, the tracks and carriers at the point of replacement.
The Russians are looking forward to capturing the stripped-down version of the Abrams, which would be a far better trophy than this "K-car" version of 20 year old tankery.
Too bad for America that it's crazed but incompetent Leadership inside the District of Corruption couldn't have dreamed up a working relationship with Russia, instead of paving a 6-lane highway for Russia and China to formalize an Alliance against the fading, rapidly, ex Super Power.
Thank you for following up on this story very interesting.
I ignore those derogatory comments from Captain Kaos.
Of course I expect this kind of exceptionalism talk from Western ideologues. We already know they think they are incredibly superior to all other life forms.
Since they have so many shipments going to Ukraine, and not so much returning back the other way, it is not surprising that they would haul this old heap back to the US since they clearly have cargo space to do so.
One of the more interesting things to watch as this conflict unfolds/ends will be what a tanks role in war becomes. With precision artillery, drones, precision glide bombs, and 24/7 surveillance overwatch they really carry a huge liabilities with their firepower.
Maybe it got off the battlefield precisely because it's going to provide crap info. Otherwise I'd have expected it would have been at least burned out by a drone strike.
https://audioboom.com/posts/8282172-londinium90ad-gaius-and-germanicus-debate-the-battlefield-on-the-eve-of-the-much-announced-spri
Gaius and Germanicus mature the Ukraine War failures to learn with the Vietnam War and Iraq War failures to learn. Michael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society.
https://audioboom.com/posts/8282173-londinium90ad-gaius-and-germanicus-mature-the-ukraine-war-failures-to-learn-with-the-vietnam-w
t-90 is sitting on a standard goose neck heavy vehicle hauler.
abrams is much heavier and road hauler much larger.
no wide tracks!
as to shipping abrams, which active or guard war plan tasked units give up their support sets of their packing and load list sets?
bc some rude uk is is already asking for rear area support shops to be set up for the few thin track leopards….
If you were going to design a tank, you wouldn't use a fuel gobbling turbine engine ever. Turbine engines are designed for aircraft that operate at constant power in clean air at altitude. When the amerikans were supplying the Soviet Union during WWII Stalin wouldn't accept gasoline burning tanks, they had to be Diesel only. They didn't call the British model "Tommy burners" for nothing. Many Long distance sailors won't have gasoline on board for fire reasons. I had 5 fire extinguishers on my 32' sailboat for that reason. Amerika probably gets the worst value for money on the military industrial complexes than any nation on earth. Most of what flys is 50 year old designs updated and the much vaunted F35 is supposedly stealthy but I doubt that anything is as a couple of invisible US aircraft found out in Serbia and no amerikan aircraft has thrust vectored supermanuverability or serious supercruise capabilities. Sure are expensive though. Reliability and servicability, not so much. The money would have been better spent on the long suffering underclasses but who cares for the untermenchen Dreck, certainly not the ruling classes.
I wonder if Beg Serge will get his hands on this tank in MD?
I wonder what other equipment the Roleplaying SS squadrons have shipped to their masters in the West? Wasn't that one Russian EW truck the MSM was celebrating the capture of last year?
Eh, I say its not too much of a problem. This War has has made it clear that logistics, classic warfare, and basic weapons in great numbers are far more important than some comicbook iron man armor.
Well at least War Thunder and World of Tanks are going to get an update soon lol.
obsolete crap but still more advanced than current usa tanks. lol
I remember, from my childhood, my elder brother bring engines into the shed to put up in block and tackles to work on. I dinked around with him and found I had an aptitude for automotive engines. Strange but true. Dinking wise. Carry on. The learning continues, many thanks, my pals❤️🇷🇺💙
It's interesting to note how Russian MBT's are more evolutionary than revolutionary compared to the West (not that the West has done much in the last 40 years, with regards to tank design).
With the T90M being a different turret casting on basically a T72 chassis, the mind boggles at how many T72's could potentially be "upgraded" with a new turret and power pack plus reactive armour if Russia wanted to go that route.
As followers of SpaceX will know, Soviet/Russian metallurgy has been far ahead of the collective West for quite some time. They had full-flow, staged combustion rocket engines more than 50 years ago, that SpaceX themselves have only recently mastered.
Aberdeen Proving Grounds may well use "Maestro" as a target, to test that turrets metallurgy, as well as looking at the Russian solutions to battlefield threats/targeting.
The Twitter opinion of "Cheap, Russian garbage" was amusing to see, that tank looked like all it needed was a quick blow out of debris, replace some of the missing gear, refuel, fire it up and go. An Abrams left hatches open through a winter would be a full depot level rebuild. His point about Abrams crews constantly maintaining, hides the fact that without it, an Abrams is very quickly dead-lined. Top-line US equipment is very maintenance intensive, not something you want in a long drawn out war. US equipment is designed around quick, decisive actions, not long hard grinds.
Seems that the magical counter offensive is still on hold for… lack of weapons 🤡
Based on the photos, the most obvious 'modification' the Ukies made was to cover it in white crosses...
Such silly comments. Looking inside an 18 year-old car in a junkyard, then claiming the upholstery was badly designed when it was initially built at the factory.
The steel arm rests on the chair clearly were the substructure, with someone having removed the upholstery support.
The Tank was clearly well used and worn out, the tracks and carriers at the point of replacement.
The Russians are looking forward to capturing the stripped-down version of the Abrams, which would be a far better trophy than this "K-car" version of 20 year old tankery.
Too bad for America that it's crazed but incompetent Leadership inside the District of Corruption couldn't have dreamed up a working relationship with Russia, instead of paving a 6-lane highway for Russia and China to formalize an Alliance against the fading, rapidly, ex Super Power.
Thank you for following up on this story very interesting.
I ignore those derogatory comments from Captain Kaos.
Of course I expect this kind of exceptionalism talk from Western ideologues. We already know they think they are incredibly superior to all other life forms.
Since they have so many shipments going to Ukraine, and not so much returning back the other way, it is not surprising that they would haul this old heap back to the US since they clearly have cargo space to do so.
Somebody should have poured gasoline in it and burnt her out