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Freddy10's avatar

It is interesting that when Leopard tanks were first destroyed in Ukraine that Germany went out of their way to convince everyone that these were not "German" tanks, they were Ukrainian tanks and they were being used autonomously by Ukraine.

Therefore I think the fact that Ukraine still needs to ask permission to use what are effectively "their own" long range weapons supplied by NATO against Russian targets in Russia, confirms it is actually NATO that is operating these weapons systems remotely.

At best, NATO/US is supplying targeting information from their intelligence and reconnaissance systems fed directly to the computers in these weapons systems. At worst, NATO operators also pull the trigger.

Therefore what Ukraine is actually asking is for NATO to fire on Russia... and Russia of course knows this. I suppose when it happens there will be intense discussion as to how much involvement the principal needs to have in a war by their proxy to actually constitute an act of war by the principal.

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Sidematic's avatar

You do not understand. Ukrainians DID NOT receive IFF systems for Patriot and F-16.

It is too high risk they would sell it to Russia or China.

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