It seems to be stating the obvious but hasn't Russia got a pile of nukes with state of the art hypersonic MIRVs? Exactly how do the Europeans hope to go up against that without nuclear Armageddon. The Russians have a pretty good track record at defeating European aggression and nothing suggests that has changed in more recent times.
My guess is that the main aim of this militarism is to pillage whatever wealth is still in the EU. A selected few will profit massively at the expense of the European population.
[Macron a Rothschild prodigy, Merz a BlackRock banker, what could go wrong....]
...and Alice Weidel (AfD) as financial analyst for Goldman Sachs, Allianz and Credit Suisse. Well planned hedging amid imponderabilities of voters' decisions. Necessary investment for nullifying the effects of elections. Still cheaper than slaughtering insurrections.
Yes, it seems they “jumped the shark” right into the real m of magical thinking whilst tearing back the curtain to reveal the rather stark brick wall at the back of the theatre. Well as the picture of the German query above mentions: at least we have the record straight before the final plunge begins.
Macron's backers have to have a valid excuse to wipe quadrillions of structured debt off the books. If it comes due, that will wipe them out. War--thorough, cleansing war, that also flatlines property values so the middle-class can be bought out--is required.
Bullseye. No more of this slowly, incrementally rolling back the fraying remains of European socialist spending which were tolerated while the cold war required pretending to give a fuck about their peasants, the ownership intends to rip that bandaid OFF and reclaim their rightful share of their economies (that is, every last penny).
Unfortunately the defense infrastructure is expensive and very wasteful. Some can be transposed into the civilian world or use other is just a big dark hole. There is also the large manpower requirements of in to many cases of the best brains to design develop test and literally certify new weapons systems. So you end up with less manpower for your civilian oriented industries so in the end you end up with a shortfall which ends up costing the country to hire and maintain that for ever cursed Industrial Military Complex (MIC) more and more. The problem with Europe is that they lost sight of the needs to have a basic Military Industrial Complex that could be rapidly expanded yes it would cost you but it would not do as much harm to your civilian sector as if you had a full blown working round the clock Military Industrial Complex. So If done with balance you could have a fairly good level Welfare benefits while having the capabilities to ramp up to defend yourself if there was a need to. By having the USA taking care of the overall defense of Europe the MIC fell by the wayside to levels that leave the European continent incapable of defending itself in an all out conventional war.
Absolutely. Germany is still under an American occupation that began at the end of WWII. American commanders still remind the German populace of that reality, for example by running large-scale "training exercises" where the U.S. Army quarters soldiers in civilian homes. Just for demonstrative purposes.
If anyone thinks the yanks are leaving their German protectorate they are dead wrong. The Trumpers realise the USA is going under and try to cut costs,but nothing else. They have bases all around Europe, not only Germany. Putting that as an American umbrella is a bold rethorical propagandist twist
I disagree that the "USA is going under". In our modern world, wealth is decided by access to energy and the knowledge base to do something useful with it. The U.S. has both in spades - North America is an incredibly rich land mass in agricultural potential, energy resources, metal ores, etc.
The U.S. bases in Germany are large and expensive. U.S. bases in other European countries are mostly Air Force, like Norway, the U.K. and Italy - relatively few troops are stationed at them. And Germany has U.S. Army bases across the country.
American Hegemony was infiltrated by German-come-American Nazis who, to this day, are still sore from the ass-kicking the "so-called inferior" Russians gave them all the way back to Berlin.
Less a question of need and more a question of occupation-lite…..so yeah, USAn bases ought to be turned over to y’all EUroWeenies and be done with it. If they could do it in Afghanistan they can do it in Europe.
We do not need those bases you brainless low IQ yankie muppet. Stop pretending you are doing Europe a favour. Get the fuck out of Europe, and get the fuck out of the rest of the world and leave the rest of the world alone. Stop attacking Latin America, stop funding Islamic terrorists, stop arming Zionists.
Quack Quack! You are quite figuratively frothing at the mouth….and at a complete stranger no less! Maybe channel that Inner Tasmanian Devil into something you actually benefit from?
Stalin made a big mistake in not pushing the borders of the USSR much further to the West. Why leave kalinigrad exposed and without a land connection to Russia.
"Truman's big mistake was not marching on Moscow at the end of hostilities, and destroying the USSR pre-emptively"
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Patton, of course. Plenty of others since, seldom from those who had been at the tip of the spear though.
I recall a WWII veteran telling me of a German pilot flying a brand new twin (jet!) engine bomber landing at his airfield in Europe after he was ordered to surrender his aircraft at the nearest US airbase. He saluted the USAAF officer taking his surrender and asked when they would re arm his ship for their upcoming attack on the USSR. They thought the Luftwaffenpilot was insane then. Now, he would be normal?!
Short of building and using a large number of the new nuclear bombs, what makes you think that the allied forces could defeat the Soviet army in 1945? On paper, at least, the Soviet army was far more substantial than the allied expeditionary force in Europe.
The U.S. would likely have have used atomic bombs on the Soviet forces. They had no compelling reason to do so in Japan, and did it simply as a show of power (and to avenge the Hiroshimo expulsion of Jews a few decades earlier).
More U.S. Bluster. The U.S. Armed Forces wouldn't have had a snowballs chance of defeating Russia then. Or now.
Russians were fighting for their homeland.
T34 vs. Sherman (the laughing-stock, gasoline powered Tommy cooker)
The Katyusha Rocket vs. ??? the U.S. had no equivalent.
The Germans surrendered to the U.S. Army not because they were afraid of the Americans, but because Russia gave the Germans back the measure, nay, more than the measure that the Nazis gave Russia.
Let me put it this way, at the end of WW2, nobody doubted who exactly defeated the Nazis, and when Stalin demanded from the West, that all people of the Soviet/Russian nationality were returned to the USSR, all did so (sans Denmark), and even the White Guard Tsar's officers, who lived in France, etc., since 1918, were returned to the USSR (and no doubt executed). So these fancy ideas about "big mistakes," are long incubated delusions of exceptionalism, etc.:-)
Driving McDonalds out of Russia was a necessary first step to total war, since there's never been a war between two countries that sell Big Macs. Now that it's "Fkusna e Tochka" in Russia - the war can begin.
It doesn't make on narcissistic, but I think MANGA followers are more like to be narcissistic.
A lot of MANGA narratives are just gaslighting.
"America is being taken advantage of by their allies" is a disgusting narrative and just false. America is the empire that is dominating the world, it is not a mislead victim. narcissists play the victim while being the aggressor.
Reading your comment it becomes obvious why your pathetic micro stack has only had SEVEN comments since July. You clearly have no idea what a narcissist actually is. A true narcissist would NEVER admit to being a victim under any circumstances.
It becomes clearer every day to me that blaming Russian Federation EXCLUSIVELY for causing the Ukrainian war (and vigorously deflecting all suggestions of ANY US responsibility!) is socially required by all true believers in the R or the D.
There isn't anyone promoting the War in Ukraine that isn't personally profiting, directly or indirectly, from the killing of these young Uke and Russian kids.
More than that, Europe's welfare state has been made possible by economies that generated surplus wealth. Socialists tend to think that economic productivity follows investment in human capital; educated workers supply businesses with quality labor. But it's always the other way around. Successful businesses generate the money to invest in human capital (which is largely squandered, and invested in the lower half of the IQ bell curve to keep the natives at bay).
How do you figure that? "Defense" from what? Europe's biggest enemy is the US. They have/had a welfare state because of their experiences during and after WW2. The switch by the "West" to finance capitalism is driving the destruction of the welfare state here in the US and in Europe. The welfare state is being targeted by the same neoliberal and plutocratic types who are busy, right now, doing the same thing in the US. What do you think Trump and that imbecile Musk are doing? European citizens are slowly waking up to this, and it's likely US citizens will too, once they get a big dose of old-time "belt-tightening" coming their way.
Musk may be many things, but an imbecile he is not. The Western welfare state is collapsing under the influx of millions of 'refugees', many of whom are still collecting state funds three generations later.
Canadian News has disclosed more than 20 truckloads hitting the underside of the concrete bridging Underpasses. Never a disclosure of the drivers names. Ever.
Europe's 'welfare state' was created to thwart domestic communism and there never was a practical reason for European defense. The Soviets were anti-European colonialism, not anti-Europe. The threat was all hype for political and economic profit.
Russia probably made more use of "mercs and war tourists" than Ukraine. A lot of Central Asians (primarily Uzbeks) signed contracts with the Russian Army, because they receive citizenship at the end of their service. Right now they are limited to six months in Russia each calendar year on visa (same as North Americans in Europe).
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Wouldn't the Duma also have to formally declare war on the terrorist regime in Kiev? I think it would be best if they did so, and take a page from the Israeli book while they're at it. Israel proved that decapitation can be highly effective - even against a fairly de-centralized group like Hezbollah (described by an fine Israeli military historian as "the finest light infantry on the planet"). I expect it would be even more effective in the case of the highly centralized racket run by handless piano virtuoso and his puppet-handler Yermak.
Also destroy all government centers involved with payments. That will cause more chaos and corruption than already exists. When it comes to dealing with a terrorist regime like the one in Kiev, chaos and corruption are your necessary allies.
You incorrectly surmise this conflict is about defeating ukraine. It is not. If we assume that Putin is a highly intelligent cunning individual then the most logical explanation for some of his seemingly bizarre decisions is that his true goal is the demilitarization of nato and he has planned on a ten year war. If he defeats ukraine too quickly things will have to escalate significantly to achieve that.
The EU is dying of moral depravity and neurosyphilis. Nothing but insane actions should be expected from the last acts of such inbred dynasties. Once the vile Brussels Empire has collapsed, the peoples of those lands can emerge from the wreckage and face reality.
"reality" - something not experienced since the 1940s."
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The reality of Europe before the now crumbling post WWII era was among the most violent and fractious ever seen on earth. There is a REASON that the tactics, large warships and big guns to conquer a planet developed there first- and it wasn't superior intelligence linked to a particular pigmentation gene, no matter what the ice & fire crew here tell themselves.
1945 until 2025 is the longest period that Europe has gone without a full on war between local nations/states since the concept of "nation" as presently thought of was arrived at. Once the USA has no longer got a foot on their necks plus both EU and NATO have gone by the board, will they go back to their old ways?
At least 6 of the EU members have both the materials and the needed scientific/technological base to enrich or reprocess fissionable isotopes and build nuclear weapons in very short order (I expect at least Germany has already built some of the required infrastructure, if not actually fabricated components?).
Well said Private! I may even have to quote you on that….from where I sit (NE USA) the EU seems increasingly bedraggled and the rift between the plebes and the self appointed elite is increasing like a calving glacier. At some point does the wether not call for Pitchforky with a chance of Torchiness?
It was in response to the natives with pitchforks comment, saying basically that we’ve passively accepted the enemy within (the EU) for so long that you can’t blame folk for becoming angry & restless.
I would say whether it is "foot on their necks", or just accepting the role of compliant vassal, the prosperity and peace that (non Russian) Europe has enjoyed over the last 80 years will most likely come to an end.
I cannot help thinking that we are in full European kabuki / clown show (or whatever you want to call it window dressing exercise) to prepare European populations for what will inevitably be a major defeat in Ukraine - while trying to do some domestic damage control before the next round of elections. Something along the lines of "we are going to save Ukraine, whatever the cost" and then blame the US (or the next pandemic etc.) to explain that, "actually, ooops Ukraine cannot be saved after all but we tried really hard". Making a few billions on defence contracts in the process would work very nicely (thank you) in order to finance what will undoubtedly be complicated electoral campaigns. As a bonus, this can be used to appease Trump with massive purchases of made in America "best weapons in the world". We live in such a strange world that I would not be surprised that this was all pre-agreed with the US during the Macron and Starmer visits to Washington.
Regarding Macron, do not underestimate the internal political dynamics: following the early elections fiasco last June, he no longer has a majority in parliament and was forced to appoint Bayrou as prime minister (to replace Barnier, his first "cohabitation" prime minister, who lasted around 3 months). While Bayrou and Macron are more or less aligned, this is a minority government. Macron is therefore trying to exist in the "domaine réservé" space (foreign policy and defence) - i.e. the policy areas arguably reserved to the French president under the French constitution. Complicated when you do not control the government which in its turn controls the budget....
Ukraine is the new covid. Der Leyen made off the record deals then & she’s doing the same now. How I see it is that these same psychopaths who tried to kill us with the vax now think they can finish the job by sending all men to die.
Not from Europe or the UK, the citizens hate the elite and their governments, they won't die for them as they are treated as second-class citizens, and they won't be signing up for the EU except for some dumb ignorant mercs.
couple years ago I listened to a program with Irina Alksnis (spelling unsure), in russian where the question about Europe/Euroreich was asked. Her answer was multifold
- they really do not have a lot of options and very limited choice
- decrease in quality of life in inevitable and unavoidable so what do you do with 'extra' three or four hundred million people that you cannot provide good quality of living for ?
- mobilize them and utilize them on the eastern front (does not matter against who , you can make 'the enemy' as you go. The Turks/Islamists are coming, the Russians are coming, the Chinese are coming ,etc.
and the saddest part (for me), it would probably work... Europe is utilizing its 'extra' population that is no longer support and provide for. Whose in Europe who can will try to escape to either USA or Russia (both VERY Christian , traditional states , very much alike). The rest would have to fight over ever decreasing pool of resources which would feed societal frictions , blame migrants, blame this , blame that. You can see this in Latin America and that is coming to EU.
Yes, but look it the population. Effeminate men, youth, not used to 'hardship' of any kind, the 'oh so liberated' women. How long do you think it would take to turn them into an army that can fight the Russians on their home turf.
dont underestimate the power of brainwashing media. dehumanization, etc. HALF of 'Ukrainians' (who are all essentially russians) have actual relatives on territory of Russian Federation and it took <5 years of braindead zombie level propaganda for the very same people to believe utter nonsense , start serving 'dead Donetsk baby cake', 'blood of moskal' cocktails, etc. scary how quickly humans become zombies willing to do anything and everything under propaganda machine.. If EU leadership decides its time for 1/5 of its population to be disposed of, the 'media' will go full blast.
He clearly isn't. He's jumping onto Trump's lap for the sake of UK trade, is dumping Ukraine and is selling off the UK to deregulated free zones for BlackRock that wouldn't be allowed under the EU.
He must be doing a really good impression of backing the Ukronazis then. As far as American Caesar goes, the British state has based its foreign policy on creeping up his arse since the Suez crime so no change there. The Liarbour Partei collaboration with the Democrats election campaign has come out and I hope that Trump's vindictiveness gets a good outing these next four years. ;O)
Yes, he is. Hugging Zelensky is easy and showy. But he needs trade with Trump for the economy alot more than the brownie points for 'standing (well back) with Ukraine'.
He needs trade with everyone and apparently has sneaked in and done the minerals deal under Trump's nose. We'll know more when the pantomime dromedary leaves state right.
The videos are beyond horrendous. And it is beyond my understanding as to why ordinary Ukrainians continue to fight, when it is surely obvious to them that the war is lost and there is absolutely nothing to be gained by continuing to die.
Perhaps someone can enlighten me, I cannot understand such behaviour. In that situation I would simply run away, nothing else makes any sense.
Remember that what you see is highly selected to fit the propaganda. Yes, most of the western Ukraine is against Russia for the past criminal activities, but they forget that those were directed and coordinated by the same jews who now are leading Ukraine.
That you’ve been lockdowned for nothing? Johns Hopkins meta-analysis of 18000 studies proved that lockdowns didn’t work and worse, killed people by stopping those with cancer or heart conditions from getting testing and treatment
Could you please explain why no Health Agency researched the 30+ COVID effective cures, but instead censored and banned the doctors successfully applying them? Was it because a successful cure would void the Emergency Use Authorization of the lethal vaccines?
Should every single vaxxed on the planet be suing Pfizer and Moderna for deliberately hiding human DNA plasmids in their vaccines, and Pfizer, for injecting an undisclosed carcinogenic monkey virus (SV40) sequence in the clueless biohacked, as officially recognized by Health Canada?
Failed again? Show 10 secs in the middle of this video (who doesn’t have 10 seconds for you)
(caveat about the beginning: pot destroys your brain + “Raises Risk of Heart Attack and Stroke”)
9/11: two "planes", yet 8 towers down. WTC7 imploded, free falling on its footprint, in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach as well as the unblemished Deutsche Bank. All 7 World Trade Center towers and that bank needed to be rebuilt, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center...
The “owner” took an insurance policy for the WTC against terrorism, months before, when no one was taking them … he didn’t show up for work on 9/11 … just as his 2 grown up siblings.
The inside information about the FUTURE 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!
There's a plan to slow-murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 … ”:
- J6: The false flag operation of the fake riot was planned, incited and guided by 200 infiltrated FBI mason agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
In 2022, the same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband millions of Brazilians against the stolen elections through the rigged voting machines owned by mason Soros:
- Since the 90s, vaccines are weaponized to reduce the population by adding hCG to infertilize women: lab-detected in 30 countries, and overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” (tampering) by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas). Check SoundChoice.org or videos.
- Excess deaths in the first 2 years: 40 million people killed by the lethal injections... so far. COVID was designed as a primer for even more lethal COVID haccines:
2. There's proof of deliberate geoengineering to increase global temperatures and droughts, and decrease albedo by dissolving clouds with satellite and Weather Radars’ Electro-Magnetic Frequencies.
3. Life involves a carbon cycle. A war on carbon is a war on life, causing crop/food scarcity, increase in food prices and famines. Decarbonization is part of the plan to exterminate 95% of us.
- Apart from sin-empowered demons, what is their main source of power? NOT a coincidence that the USA left dollar convertibility to gold in 1971, precisely triggering the exponential government deficit coupled with the trade deficit and inflation.
Taking down central banking doesn't solve the problem. Their source of free endless money is counterfeiting, fractional reserve banking and financial instruments (e.g. derivatives, debt over debt, compound interest above real growth, etc.). Also, insider information, sabotage, infiltration, manufactured news and events to create profitable market-movements.
This is the Achilles’ heel of all nations: the SSS (Satanic Secret Societies such as masonry) create trillions out of thin air and launder them through their Banks, foundations, and foreign loans and “aid”, with which they buy puppeticians and seats in the boards of the Federal Reserve (the only private-run Central Bank in the world), judiciary, corporations, media, healthcare, universities, foundations, political parties, etc.
The masons’ worst nightmare is that the daydreaming majority wakes up, finds out their crimes, and seek justice. We are a million to one. Until they achieve the CBDC digi-tatorship, they are walking on a tight rope.
We've got a very small window of opportunity to fight or ... die (they want to murder 95% of us).
President John Quincy Adams: “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”
Who’s got THAT kind of power?: to vanish a ratified Amendment!
Why are you always trying to deflect from the Jew problem? Something like 93 % of Jews in Israel support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Zionist =jew Jews support the isreal project.
Thanks but nah , doesn’t explain why they willingly commit suicide for nix. I understand why the Japanese did it in WW2 because of-the pervasive emperor cult. Sure there is propaganda in their media(I read it regularly) , but it doesn’t really stack up , and its is clear from comments or lack of them that few people actually believe the Z bullshit.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Imagine how lethal the battlefield is, I expect that thousands of US_Ukronazi casualties are of people trying to stay alive long enough to surrender.
They would if they could. They need to pay huge bribes to flee. How many common people have that sort of money? And its martial law there, with nazi SBU keeping strict control.
Desertion does appear to be a viable option , which apparently so many (100k +) have taken that authorities “forgive you” if you return.
If arrested a jail cell seems preferable to the front but this doesn’t appear to be an option either.
There are many stories of the Azov types waiting behind the front lines and shooting deserters. So at all costs I would avoid the front lines and if I did get there , surrender to the Russians would be my strategy.
But I agree , none of these very poor options are easily accomplished.
Many of the foreign mercenaries are associated with the nationalist battalions like Azov on an organizational level. They're not deploying to the zero line alongside AFU regulars. Nationalist units tend to have armor and artillery, western training on systems, and be deployed in high-value assaults (like Robotinye and Kursk) or used as backstops to shoot retreating AFU regulars as they attempt to withdraw.
Not all deserters are shot. Most are reformed into mine-clearing detachments or rear-guard with no hope except to die. The looks on the guys faces in their little holes says it all - they know they are already dead.
What gets me is how effective this is. At times whole Russian advances are held up by two IQ challenged Ukrainians hiding in a hole.
The country was progressively deprived of any real oposition. Years of political assassinations of politicians and journalists, banning of parties, repression of free speech and media, in total impunitity, resulted in mass migration. I already met fled Ucranians in France in the early 2000's. For those who stayed it is possibly too late. Many are surprised there was not any resistance or upheaval in Ucraine. Well, there was one, that of the Donbass heroes, of those who died burnt alive in the Odessa Union house. They fought and they died. Happily, their children are now free but they could have lost too. For those who went along with western fascism, there is hell now. No exit.
Keeping in mind that the Ukraine has been subject to a rather sinister grooming program for the past decade and beyond. The goal was ever to turn it into an expendable battering ram, used in vain to agitate Russia in the hopes it might collapse leaving the plunder of resources open to the hyenas and vulture that had been turned back by Bad Vlad and his team….
Hmm , not sure about those reasons either when confronted with your own almost certain extinction in a very short time frame. Sorry still can’t understand it
Part of it might be that they are basically Russians and Russians don't give up easily. Remember the Fortress of Brest held out longer than France and the Low Countries in 1941.
Your question really gets to the heart of the matter.
To me it seems, albeit greatly simplifying the matter, that it comes down to emotions and misplaced tribalism: a love for their blue-and-yellow flag and the name of their country, which they don't want replaced with the Russian white-blue-red equivalent (a fate worse than death), rather than rationality, i.e. that in practice, life under Russian-Eurasian "occupation" would be no worse than under Euro-Atlantic "occupation".
In hindsight, the 2015 Minsk and 2022 Istanbul agreements were extremely favorable to Ukraine (keep most of your country and its flag; even join the EU, if you want – VVP said it), but they missed their chance due to emotionalism in place of rationalism.
Ukrainian nationalism seems more like an invented tradition, especially for the Russian speakers. Peer-group loyalty doesn't seem likely either considering that peer-groups disappear so quickly on an industrial battlefield.
• Banderite (black-and-red) fanaticism, which is more Galician than Ukrainian, i.e. western region and Ukrainian-speaking, partly former Polish territory.
• Regular Ukrainian (blue-and-yellow) nationalism/patriotism, center/east/south regions, where the Russian speakers congregate, people who in many (most?) cases have relatives living in RF.
It becomes confused, firstly because these segments have rather different histories but have become lumped together into one "unified" Ukraine.
Next, the Banderites have been heavily promoted by the Euro-Atlantic alliance to the point of effectively usurping the rest of the country and making Russian-speakers hate their own RF relatives.
Although this "Ukraine" is historically something of an artificial construct (thanks to Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev successively), it has effectively become people's core identity (as they view themselves), hence the absurdity of Russian speakers fighting for a regime than bans the Russian language and wants to kill their Russian relatives.
"A class analysis of society" requires entirely too much intelligence, education and fore brain type rational thinking plus some time, your average human populations are most easily motivated to kill through stimulation of entirely different parts of their brains- The really old parts that will fight & kill over maintaining a tribe's territory.
Life is too complicated for humans to be reduced to a mechanistic simulacrum. People will kill for gain, for principle and for fear of the consequences of refusal. It takes a lot of propaganda though. Conflict over territory was caused by population growth, not by innate human characteristics.
why would it be obvious to them? the soldiers are,of course, locked inside their little military bubbles. the civilians see/hear only what they're told. Look at us. Our civilians. What are they shown/told? This? No way. They know nothing of this and no one is trying to tell them.
Such as this, for instance, makes no suggestion anywhere that you even should tell them ! Or how you could tell them even. Does it give any links, say, and suggest you add them to your emails? Does it point to any 'venues' where all might be revealed? Does it give any links to irrefutable sources of truth?
Nope. It just preaches to the converted and that's all any of them do.
So the people generally know nothing. Our people, their people.
And people are so gullible. Macron telling the French the Russians are coming for them !
The English told the Russians are coming for them !
And the Kiev Ukrainians will be told the might of USA and NATO and Europe will save them. And they'll be believing it, I suspect.
p.s. Perhaps I should do better than merely criticise. Well I have. Long ago I put up a site: ukrainehonesty.com. It does nothing, did nothing, has garnered no attention and I rarely look at it myself and never add content. But, I mean: I did that much... tried that much to establish a venue, a locus, a point of reference, an avenue all might share. How many of our vaunted, esteemed 'alt media' (which we usually esteem simply because they are 'alt media') have done that much?
Answers to your question seem reasonable ...mostly. But I think that in the end, most of these Ukies are fighting because an enemy is in their homeland - they are, in their eyes, truly defending their homes and lives. It doesn't really matter why the enemy is destroying their country - rightly or wrongly - it does matter, however, that their homes and families and lives are threatened. They have a long tradition of fighting to the end to protect their lands.
So between their everlasting hatred of Russians and their desire to protect their homeland, they fight on, and will do so until the war ends one way or another.
Those with awareness know the enemy is not in their homeland, the enemy, they thankfully know, is still over there in Donbas which has never been their homeland.
That's their problem, they know that, Donbas was not/is not their homeland and so they wish to drive out Russians and all Russian connection and make it their homeland, don't they?
Most of them are not going to keep fighting for that.
That much I believe has already been established by surveys: there's a majority happy to end the war and secede territory.
We universally ignore the Civil War that it is but they know about it. Submerged wherever the authorities can submerge it beneath tirades and propaganda about USA and Russia and NATO etc. etc.... all kinds of obfuscation ... but there.
Very much there. Because so strongly interwoven into the very fabric of their life and history.
Cannot be denied, refuted. That's what the govt and the rabid nationalists are trying to do, 'unweave' it from the present and the past and the future. Madness.
There is no everlasting hatred of Russians in the general populace at all.
A little more concentration on the People would be good. It is where we all should be looking all the time.
But it is where no one looks at any time.
I constantly bang on about the language, the word 'Ukraine' as it is universally used today, msm and alt-media alike. It means always 'Kiev Ukraine' or the ruling Junta to be more precise. It never means 'Ukraine' that includes 10 million Donbas Ukrainians.
Never.
'Support Ukraine' means, literally, attack that 10 million. Kill them. Where is that 'support Ukraine' ? Only in Orwellian new speak where 'Ukraine' means the Junta.
Do you see my point? My point is that such a simple misuse of a noun literally obliterates 10 million people.
Those comments do go some way to answering the question i asked, but there is clearly a very widespread understanding of the hopelessness of their situation in Ukraine based on the widespread destruction, lack of power , the cemeteries covered in flags , word of mouth from those who have been at the front etc. Given the huge numbers of people who have fled and the fact that 30% speak Russian I’m not sure nationalist feeling and/ or hatred of Russia are as prevalent as is implied(more so in the western part as I understand ).
Maybe it is simply herd instinct that compels them to keep fighting a hopeless war. Sad reflection on our species, if true and a good reason to distrust the herd (majority). If the covid scam didn’t teach us that likely nothing will.
You raise a very good point which I have struggled to understand. In WW2 I could understand why the Wehrmacht fought to the very end. But in Ukraine they have not had the same level of brain washing as existed in Nazi Germany.
Way more than that. The only reason I ever learned Ukrainian at all was to be able to read the legal codes. "How to say that in Ukrainian?" was a running joke in the office.
For that matter, I was at an expat gathering, chatting up a female, when a Canadian nationalist (another stock figure in Ukrainian humor of the time) asked if we were speaking Russian or Ukrainian. The girl answered "Russian. Like normal people."
Another true story was the time I had to explain (in Russian) the meanings of basic Ukrainian words to two Ukrainian businessmen, both born and raised in Kiev.
An American media outfit once did a survey in Ukraine where the public were given the option of having the questionnaire in Russian or Ukrainian. Nearly everyone across the country chose to take the survey in Russian.
Russian is actually the majority language in Ukraine. You can hear it on the streets of Kiev in private conversations, or in leaked phone calls with Zelensky, Poroshenko, Ahmetov, etc. The overwhelming use of Ukrainian language in schools, workplaces, and, of course, the media, is a policy or ideological decision and mostly not people's natural inclination (except in Western regions, which are naturally Ukrainian-speaking).
Example: in the linked video with the wounded ("if you can stomach it"), there is more Russian than Ukrainian language spoken, even though government employees are officially required to speak Ukrainian, and these Russian-speaking soldiers are fighting for the regime that has largely banned their native language, closed their schools, burns their books and in various other ways abuses people for speaking their native language (if Russian or Hungarian; though they're mostly fine with other languages).
Funny story. Shortly after the so-called "Orange Revolution" I was invited to a press-conference conducted by some Yushchenko functionary. Needless to say, the speech was in Ukrainian, full of flowery unadulterated bullshit about intellectual prpperty rights being respected in Ukraine, even though pirated software was openly for sale on the street not 100 meters away.
But the Q&A session afterwards was in Russian. The speaker could read Ukrainian from a script, but could not formulate an original response in that language.
Zelensky has the same problem. He learned Ukrainian well enough to speak it from a script but when it comes to an extended sit down with extemporaneous speech and back and forth it's clear he's not very good at the language, making a lot of mistakes. He also cusses in Russian. The way he said "suka" under his breath at Vance was the Russian way to say it, not Ukrainian.
"the hopelessness of their situation in Ukraine based on the widespread destruction, lack of power ,"
The first thing to remember is that a few guys with machine guns who are ruthless about killing can keep a hundred other people who aren't armed under control. When the nazi junta seized power in Kiev in 2014 they had mountains of weapons and billions of dollars courtesy of the US, and they were totally ruthless about killing anybody who opposed them. They rounded up and killed 50,000 Ukrainians in territories they controlled who opposed them. They did that mostly quietly, arresting people here and there and taking them away and then they never were seen again.
They also took over all media and killed anybody who pushed back against them. There aren't a whole lot of heroes in mainstream media, you know, and after people get disappeared or get shot in the street the rest of them go along with the narrative. The nazis also terrorized people in territories they captured. For example, there have been many dozens of mass graves, typically 100 to 300 people, exhumed in Donbass where the nazis executed people, sometimes entire villages.
As for graphic examples of cowing people, perhaps the most public was the burning alive of 47 peaceful protestors in Odessa, while the police either looked on or participated in shooting people who tried to escape the flames. If you witness something like that you keep your head down.
Now, you might say, why not escape? The answer is that's expensive and risky to do in a police state. They kill people who try, or send them to the front to die. Why not surrender? Because if you try they shoot you in the back or catch you and torture you to death.
As for "widespread destruction," there isn't any in Ukraine. All the destruction is in Russia, which is what the four regions that joined Russia are. The fighting is going on in Russia. Walk around Kiev and there isn't any "widespread destruction." There are only a few locations here and there where Russia has hit arms factories, hotels taken over by the military and similar. Things like power stations or other war-related infrastructure are point objects. They aren't on every street corner.
If Ukrainian surveillance is as well organised as you say, then the desertion numbers wouldn’t be so high and they wouldn’t be offering to let deserters return without penalty. In the chaos and confusion of war opportunities likely arise anyway. Don’t think it is quite as “simple” as you say.
if you prefer some other word, instead of simple, OK
if you do not agree, OK
facts are facts
we are all free to call facts with different names, nouns, adjectives, but using a common language, based on English and common sense, makes it easier to communicate, connect, exchange opinions...
Facts are facts,
there is a huge amount of data, anecdotes, personal experience shared in comments, original interesting data excavated by Simplifies, coming from present day Ukraine
there is a whole line of historical records showing how extreme political forces
are able to control societies, stiffle dissent, and organise millions into armies that fight and die in wars, both undemocratic as well as democratic
It is history of Europe I 20th century, in times of communism and national socialism
I, do understand that you may be somewhat young, naive, or old and naive, and that you need more time to understand. But it will come in time, realisation, epiphany, awakening, whatever you call it.
There is no point of arguing about your opinion, or the speed of realisation of reality,
You say you think it is not quite as simple in a sense that you are not satisfied with explanations other commenters offered, as an answer to your wondering.
I believe you.
But most of the commenters agree that there is no mystery, what happens in Ukraine today has happened many times in history, and can be rationally explained.
I believe you do not exactly get it. And I do not take it as your fault.
Millions of Ukrainians have run away; those that are still alive opposite the Russians have to time their move carefully, lest they get shot in the back. The best thing to do is find a nice big hole and hide in it when the Ukulele army is forced to retreat. With luck you can come out and go down The Winchester for a nice cool pint and wait for the whole thing to blow over.
The videos have been horrendous on both sides. The two armies have been relatively eventy matched, with an edge to the Russian Army, throughout the war. Even just in the past few days, the AFU has retaken ground from the RA in the Pokrovsk area. For a long time, Ukraine had an advantage in drone technology and production, and were at least successful in maintaining various lines. I don't think the perception of most Ukrainian soldiers matches what you describe ("obvious that the war is lost").
Probably a lot of AFU troops don't have a good sense of the larger dynamics of the war; they are familiar with the limited area they are assigned to. Both sides forbid using smart phones or other internet devices near the zero line because the signals can be tracked and targeted. RA troops have been steadily rotated throughout the war, so all of the Russian troops have time to catch up on news and message with friends / family in the near-rear. The AFU troops have not been regularly rotated - they stay on the zero line until they're pulled off to redeploy elsewhere (and then phones are forbidden to keep the troop transport from being tracked) or left on the line until they're dead or captured.
Eurocrat and Brit desperation reek of desperately seeking excuses for default. Simon Hunt's speculation on BoE delays in gold delivery and BIS involvement in avoiding a financial collapse. This was all supposed to end in Russia's collapse and a vampire's feast so will the fumes last to 27-28? C'mon, some people are optimists, what have the last three years been?
I'm afraid if the US economy takes a dive, then Trump, if he is still alive, in two years will have to face a Democratic House and Senate and take the blame for Biden's and the Oligarchs', MIC's, Globalists' etc BS. He will be hamstrung politically. Profiteering and control through chaos will remain the strategy of the globalists in the West, especially after the mid terms. Getting a hold of Ukraine's rare earths as a business man is his objective. Same with the Gaza strip to build his empire of casinos and luxury resorts. Trump is no mother Teresa. His sliver spoon life has been beauty contests, UFC , WWF, casinos, golf courses, books promoting his business savvy like the Art of the Deal which should be called The Art of the Con,as he left at least 4 bagholders when when his four business aventures went belly up in the 1990s and had to be bailed out by Wilbur Ross of Deutsch Bank. A womanizing draft dodger who got out of service because of "heel spurs."
Meanwhile Russia has realized it can NEVER trust the West again and the price to keep its sovereignty will be a perpetual low grade conflict so as to keep its own military well honed and weapons production at the needed level of readiness. Eternal vigilence.
Furthermore, Russia doesn't want to appear too aggressive as that will only add fodder to GBrit, France,and others to escalate even more. Thus Russia will elect to continue the slow grinding war of attrition where everyone gets tired of the war, but not alarmed over a sudden crushing Russian advance.
Quietly behind the scenes, economic issues on both sides are lurking , i.e., energy, debt, living standards etc putting pressure on both sides. Thus, a low grade grinding conflict is entirely possible as you suggest for another two years. Both sides too weak to gain a decisive victory, but for political and globalists' reasons do not want to end the conflict. The grift is too good.
Besides Trump is more concerned about adding feathers to his cap as a "deal maker" rather than being a true statesman. He is owned by many oligarchs despite being a billionaire himself.
When I worked in Ukraine, one thing I worked on was to try to drum up interest in investing int he Ukrainian mineral sector.
Enough to say that Ukraine is not some treasure trove of untapped mineral wealth. Note the complete lack of interest, even before Ukrainian infrastructure was wrecked.
I don’t see Ukraine surviving to 2027, but that’s the SMO, as to war with the UK, France, and EU states certainly will continue. Once the money is gone and the grift is up the current crop of Ukraine’s leadership will abandon ship. The current ambassador to the UK as leader in exile, definitely, but he’s just another Guaido.
Given the state of bond markets in Fr, De and UK and general economic stagnation the collapse is only a small crisis away. A crisis of perhaps US Russia detente.
Europe has disintegrated into madness. It is literally insane, perverse and beliggerant as well. NATO is a total disaster and neither The US or Canada should have anything further to do with it. In fact the withdrawal of the two outsiders will leave NATO as a fully European defense organization and one much less likely to push for a major war with Russia.
There is nothing insane happening. The current European leadership cannot politically survive Finlandizing to Russia, but without US protection that is their only real option. They are writhing right now. Give it some time.
Russia should be an essential member of NATO. If the US retires than Russia should take its place. Europe does not have to be divided. Russia is not Communist, it is capitalist, it isn't Godless it is Christian, it isn't a raging dicatorship, it is a nascent democracy that needs other democracies' support to become wholly democratic.
Christianity seems to be an inherently hypocritical doctrine, only fit for social validation and control. With the exception of the amis, menonites and other minor groups.
There is a way to follow Christianity and be less of a hypocrite, but most plastic Christians are narcissists and self reflecting is beyond them.
Like right wing American Christians spew on about family values, but they are in fact anti family, Right and left have a long history of attacking the family.
This is a pretty complex subject, but the average right wing Christian trad con is not Christian or a trad con. the nuclear family is not traditional, and these people get remarried all the time. (That is fornication. You can only get married again if your spouse dies from what I remember.)
Family values is house wife mate guarding fetishization.
For example left wing and right wingers both support child support, Child support is about female supremacy, and incentivises women to break up stable families and boot fathers out. Children suffer under single mothers.
If you try explaining this to the average right winger they will just mindless repeat nonsense about dead beat dads, and men need to take responsibility, when fatherlessness was a lot rarer before child support, and it is mothers who break most families up. You try explaining to the average right winger that child support causes fatherlessness, their eyes glaze over, and they carry on mindlessly blaming fathers.
So I have to conclude right wingers offer nothing, since they their political ideas are about making themselves feel good, and are nothing to do with objective reality.
I could post about how the left are full of shit and hypocrites, but at least they have some workable ideas, the right has nothing as far as I can see. (The right do point to some real problems, but when they get into power they make it worse, or at best do nothing to fix them.)
I think the system needs elections to validate their mandate. Nothing else. Concerning the real power of the common people, well, at this point, there is none.
You assume that Russia being capitalist, mostly Christian, and generally sane makes it an ally of Europe. In fact, the Europeans today oppose all of those things and will fight to prevent anything like capitalism, Christianity, or sanity from entering their continent.
Well... if you respect Western Civilization and what it accomplished, it is very sad what has happened to Europe. If you hate the West because of some sort of colonial/post-structuralist/feminist/anti-Christian/Marxist grievance, then it is a most happy event.
The European states have been ruled for decades by a international socialist political class. Subservience to ideology over inconvenient facts is the main pre-requisite of the system - this is why they can not face the reality of a Russian victory. Notice how they have spent years talking to each other about Ukraine, but won't pick up the phone to Putin.
They are all capitalists. Right wingers with brain rot do not want to admit that capitalism leads to what we have now. So they have to relabel what right wing capitalism socialism, Nazi's did the same thing.
I see this conflation everywhere. Anything that the author doesn’t like they call ‘left’. It doesn’t matter if they are uber-wealthy financiers or Nazi’s they are, at the very least, ascribed to be socialists.
Personally I believe it is a ploy to confuse and divide people but many unthinking people unwittingly repeat it.
Oh please what silly nonsense. The European ruling class has a deep seated hatred of socialism. They are comprador capitalists who have become accustomed since WW2 to following US dictates and now they are in a predicament due to trumps policies.
Yes, it's likely true that one reason for Russia's measured advances in Ukraine is the very long line of combat. By comparison it's about twice as long as the front in WWI. This means that even though Russia is fielding a large army, they're spread out over a great distance. There are other factors as well.
I am sceptical of all the western word salad...no one has asked Russia what it thinks yet. Under cover of the 'just hang on while we talk peace/Ukraine will be out of weapons by end of Jan (2023)/Minsk2)' type jawboning, Ukr finds an army to invade Kursk?? IMO, ever since this began Ru has been expecting to fight NATO at some point, and have operated in that vein. Yes, there are differences in the west, but I urge caution. Also, China has been more outspoken and active of late - did something not reported happen since DJT took over that provoke this response?
The whole point of this from a US perspective is to flip Russia into our column and surround China with enemies. The US in the short term is looking at this as a way to prvot to put more forces in China's face, and the trade war dimension shouldn't be ignored.
Some of this is realistic, some of it is a pipe dream in my opinion, but the Chinese see the dagger pointed at them and are reacting.
It would be a big flip - this isn't the 60'swhen there were significant ideological differences between Russian and Chinese style communism. Both are much more pragamatic now with functioning non-financialised mixed economies. I think China exports more now to elsewhere than the USA - that affects sanction impact. China is certainly in the US crosshairs though, but given US/NATO failure in Ukr, a lot of re-industrialising and on-shoring needs to happen before the west is capable of eating that elephant. But I take your points.
Russia has been fighting NATO from the beginning. That's what this war is, or was at least. The combined West vs Russia (and by extension, BRICS). Ukraine is just the battlefield (and the main proxy force). Trump has realised that the Chinese are a big winner in this and are trying to extricate themselves to pivot (haven't I heard that somewhere before) to Asia. This is the next BRIC. When the Chinese step in to secure Iran, ensuring their energy security, then we know the war has reached a new inflection point. From Trump's perspective Biden's big mistake was getting bogged down in Eastern Europe. The Russians and Chinese are playing the long game, the EU are playing a hustle and the US are desperate to moderate their strategic decline.
The suspension of intelligence sharing is the shifting of the Overton Window.
Once something is done once, it becomes conceivable to do again even if they go back on it.
It might be not that the suspension is temporary but the restoration.
Also, did you hear about the UK already having a deal for the now famous “rare earths”with Zelensky as part of that 100 year security guarantee Starmer signed last month?
Alex Krainer surmises that the UK deal secretly includes the ports, energy assets, oil and gas, lithium, titanium etc. Very similar to the Bessant proposal. The rare earths are difficult to value as they are byproducts of refining other minerals (eg graphine from coal). They are probably on offer in the Ukrainian proposal but the actual value may not be massive. I'm sure everyone involved understands where the valuable assets are in Ukraine. That's why there is some much arguing going on. The hyenas are feeding but not too much meat left on the bones.
Alex Krainer is always surmising things. Like when he said all London's C.C.T.V. cameras had gone down and therefore something big was going to happen. Nothing happened (unless it was a practise run for something). Rumours abound. Got to be careful with them. Isn't the Ukraine—Britain assets deal just a rumour at this stage?
Ignoring the fact that Ukraine is not some treasure trove of untapped mineral wealth, the UK would gladly abandon any claim to anything of value in Ukraine, if that were what it takes to get the US To go to war agaisnt Russia.
Horrible stuff all around, with way to much talk from idiots who have never had a clue how to get along, in terms of fostering positive things for humanity. It has reached the point of nonstop insanity and frankly I don't know how you stand it Simplicius. I watch it almost everyday, been doing so since around 1998, still only grasping a fraction of what actually goes on.
So, I am going to dial back to simplicity. I think it was just before the end of last year or the beginning of this year, Russia affirmed its´ military budget ............. for the war. It was mapped out until the end of ................. * drum roll please * .............. 2027. While the public theatrics focus on 2, 4 or 6 months, Russia has prepared to keep this going for 3 more years .............. at least. No one is speaking a word about this.
For a long while now, I have had my suspicion that while the declared objectives of the SMO are real, another set of undeclared objectives were also in play from the very beginning. I believe they include the gutting of NATO and and the economies of their participants; especially in Europe.
While Trump seems to be making good plays, he also appears to be getting himself stuck in the mud. The Donald is on trajectory to make mistakes that will completely foul up his goals of coming out on top, with quick deals and spectacular results. What he is doing in Ukraine and now in Gaza ( telling HAMAS they are all dead if they don´t cooperate, while at the same time initiating direct talks with them, as he cuts Israel out of the pipeline ) amount to too many dance moves at a single go. Nobody is that good and he ´doesn't have the cards´ to run his mouth like he does.
For me, HAMAS and the Palestinian people are inseparable, as they should be. So, it is a direct threat, a death threat, against the population. There is no excuse for this.
Erm.....
It seems to be stating the obvious but hasn't Russia got a pile of nukes with state of the art hypersonic MIRVs? Exactly how do the Europeans hope to go up against that without nuclear Armageddon. The Russians have a pretty good track record at defeating European aggression and nothing suggests that has changed in more recent times.
My guess is that the main aim of this militarism is to pillage whatever wealth is still in the EU. A selected few will profit massively at the expense of the European population.
Macron a Rothschild prodigy, Merz a BlackRock banker, what could go wrong....
[Macron a Rothschild prodigy, Merz a BlackRock banker, what could go wrong....]
...and Alice Weidel (AfD) as financial analyst for Goldman Sachs, Allianz and Credit Suisse. Well planned hedging amid imponderabilities of voters' decisions. Necessary investment for nullifying the effects of elections. Still cheaper than slaughtering insurrections.
Bankers wars should be fought by Bankers. In the field.
Hey, steady on with the anti-semitisms, Buddy.
So. If I think building a Golf Resort on the former Gaza Graveyard is more than gauche, maybe is a criminal enterprise, then I am an anti-Semite?
Oh...so confusing this stuff.
Kill this guy. Good.
Kill his neighbor. Bad.
Makes my head hurt.
; )
So in your world being anti war is antisemitic????
That is a very special kind of stupid.
Yes, it seems they “jumped the shark” right into the real m of magical thinking whilst tearing back the curtain to reveal the rather stark brick wall at the back of the theatre. Well as the picture of the German query above mentions: at least we have the record straight before the final plunge begins.
Simple. Macron is betting that the United States will, in the end, be forced to ride to his rescue.
Macron's backers have to have a valid excuse to wipe quadrillions of structured debt off the books. If it comes due, that will wipe them out. War--thorough, cleansing war, that also flatlines property values so the middle-class can be bought out--is required.
As in, "right now" required.
@abcdefg
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Bullseye. No more of this slowly, incrementally rolling back the fraying remains of European socialist spending which were tolerated while the cold war required pretending to give a fuck about their peasants, the ownership intends to rip that bandaid OFF and reclaim their rightful share of their economies (that is, every last penny).
Europe's wellfare state has been made possible by the United States defense umbrella over Europe.
Which is going away.
Well, if you count Otto von Bismarck as a post WW II politician 😇, there might be some truth to this claim.
Unfortunately the defense infrastructure is expensive and very wasteful. Some can be transposed into the civilian world or use other is just a big dark hole. There is also the large manpower requirements of in to many cases of the best brains to design develop test and literally certify new weapons systems. So you end up with less manpower for your civilian oriented industries so in the end you end up with a shortfall which ends up costing the country to hire and maintain that for ever cursed Industrial Military Complex (MIC) more and more. The problem with Europe is that they lost sight of the needs to have a basic Military Industrial Complex that could be rapidly expanded yes it would cost you but it would not do as much harm to your civilian sector as if you had a full blown working round the clock Military Industrial Complex. So If done with balance you could have a fairly good level Welfare benefits while having the capabilities to ramp up to defend yourself if there was a need to. By having the USA taking care of the overall defense of Europe the MIC fell by the wayside to levels that leave the European continent incapable of defending itself in an all out conventional war.
nonsense. Europe never had a say under the American hegemony.
Absolutely. Germany is still under an American occupation that began at the end of WWII. American commanders still remind the German populace of that reality, for example by running large-scale "training exercises" where the U.S. Army quarters soldiers in civilian homes. Just for demonstrative purposes.
If anyone thinks the yanks are leaving their German protectorate they are dead wrong. The Trumpers realise the USA is going under and try to cut costs,but nothing else. They have bases all around Europe, not only Germany. Putting that as an American umbrella is a bold rethorical propagandist twist
I disagree that the "USA is going under". In our modern world, wealth is decided by access to energy and the knowledge base to do something useful with it. The U.S. has both in spades - North America is an incredibly rich land mass in agricultural potential, energy resources, metal ores, etc.
The U.S. bases in Germany are large and expensive. U.S. bases in other European countries are mostly Air Force, like Norway, the U.K. and Italy - relatively few troops are stationed at them. And Germany has U.S. Army bases across the country.
As per the article above, there is messaging and then there is measurable action. Sometimes they overlap but quite often they do not…..
American Hegemony was infiltrated by German-come-American Nazis who, to this day, are still sore from the ass-kicking the "so-called inferior" Russians gave them all the way back to Berlin.
We do not need the USAs defence spending, so do not act like we benefit from it. Gaslight harder.
Less a question of need and more a question of occupation-lite…..so yeah, USAn bases ought to be turned over to y’all EUroWeenies and be done with it. If they could do it in Afghanistan they can do it in Europe.
We do not need those bases you brainless low IQ yankie muppet. Stop pretending you are doing Europe a favour. Get the fuck out of Europe, and get the fuck out of the rest of the world and leave the rest of the world alone. Stop attacking Latin America, stop funding Islamic terrorists, stop arming Zionists.
Quack Quack! You are quite figuratively frothing at the mouth….and at a complete stranger no less! Maybe channel that Inner Tasmanian Devil into something you actually benefit from?
Nobody cares what europeans think or want.
Whose thoughts and wants are cared about?
@Steel
Whose thoughts & wants?
That is a billion dollar question-
With a multi billion dollar answer.
So... U.S. troops bad.... Muslim and African immigration, occupation, and control of Europe... good? Just curious
That is next level stupid. You owe your very existence to the USA, your welcome.
No we do not yankie shit stain.
Seriously??? I was not aware that any nation intended to attack any nation in Western Europe anytime after 1945.
I do recall that the Warsaw Pact was formed in 1955 in response to the potential of NATO attempting to invade constituents of the Eastern Bloc.
Stalin offered a neutral germany, the offer was not even considered,
Stalin made a big mistake in not pushing the borders of the USSR much further to the West. Why leave kalinigrad exposed and without a land connection to Russia.
A lot of people think that Truman's big mistake was not marching on Moscow at the end of hostilities, and destroying the USSR pre-emptively.
There were of course too many committed Marxists in the Democrat party at that time to do seize that opportunity.
@Married With Bears
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Patton, of course. Plenty of others since, seldom from those who had been at the tip of the spear though.
I recall a WWII veteran telling me of a German pilot flying a brand new twin (jet!) engine bomber landing at his airfield in Europe after he was ordered to surrender his aircraft at the nearest US airbase. He saluted the USAAF officer taking his surrender and asked when they would re arm his ship for their upcoming attack on the USSR. They thought the Luftwaffenpilot was insane then. Now, he would be normal?!
Apparently those American Soldiers were blissfully unaware of the captured U.S. kids that the Nazis summarily executed.
One of the greatest American strengths/liabilities. A short term memory.
Short of building and using a large number of the new nuclear bombs, what makes you think that the allied forces could defeat the Soviet army in 1945? On paper, at least, the Soviet army was far more substantial than the allied expeditionary force in Europe.
The U.S. would likely have have used atomic bombs on the Soviet forces. They had no compelling reason to do so in Japan, and did it simply as a show of power (and to avenge the Hiroshimo expulsion of Jews a few decades earlier).
More U.S. Bluster. The U.S. Armed Forces wouldn't have had a snowballs chance of defeating Russia then. Or now.
Russians were fighting for their homeland.
T34 vs. Sherman (the laughing-stock, gasoline powered Tommy cooker)
The Katyusha Rocket vs. ??? the U.S. had no equivalent.
The Germans surrendered to the U.S. Army not because they were afraid of the Americans, but because Russia gave the Germans back the measure, nay, more than the measure that the Nazis gave Russia.
Hat tip to that old wordsmith, Winnie.
Bluster or not, when exactly has reality interfered with U.S. elite planning?
It was one of the few times Truman made a good choice. He understood that the USSR would have completely destroyed the US.
Let me put it this way, at the end of WW2, nobody doubted who exactly defeated the Nazis, and when Stalin demanded from the West, that all people of the Soviet/Russian nationality were returned to the USSR, all did so (sans Denmark), and even the White Guard Tsar's officers, who lived in France, etc., since 1918, were returned to the USSR (and no doubt executed). So these fancy ideas about "big mistakes," are long incubated delusions of exceptionalism, etc.:-)
Not Stalin. Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
Driving McDonalds out of Russia was a necessary first step to total war, since there's never been a war between two countries that sell Big Macs. Now that it's "Fkusna e Tochka" in Russia - the war can begin.
Err, India-Pakistan? Lebanon-Israel?
The last India-Pakistan War was in 1971 or so. I don't think either had a Mickey D at that time.
There were McDonalds in Serbia when NATO made war on that country.
Kargil War 1999? Not a full scale war, but several thousand deaths.
What about the Jew bombing Serbia ?
What is the USA defending Europe from you pathological liar?
Nothing, actually. But the US MIC needed an enemy to justify its business.
I love how all the MANGA narcissists are trying to act like the USA didn't start all the shit.
The attack on Russia was started by the USA.
Absolutely true, but by a previous administration. I suppose though it depends on whether we believe this one is any different.
I am not sure how enjoying MANGA makes one narcissistic, but if you have time perhaps you can enlighten us….
It doesn't make on narcissistic, but I think MANGA followers are more like to be narcissistic.
A lot of MANGA narratives are just gaslighting.
"America is being taken advantage of by their allies" is a disgusting narrative and just false. America is the empire that is dominating the world, it is not a mislead victim. narcissists play the victim while being the aggressor.
English not yo first language….? Also very Nipponophobic
Reading your comment it becomes obvious why your pathetic micro stack has only had SEVEN comments since July. You clearly have no idea what a narcissist actually is. A true narcissist would NEVER admit to being a victim under any circumstances.
@Alec Green
It becomes clearer every day to me that blaming Russian Federation EXCLUSIVELY for causing the Ukrainian war (and vigorously deflecting all suggestions of ANY US responsibility!) is socially required by all true believers in the R or the D.
There isn't anyone promoting the War in Ukraine that isn't personally profiting, directly or indirectly, from the killing of these young Uke and Russian kids.
Disgusting, smelly self-appointed "elites".
Imagine a world where Russian Intelligence was providing targeting inside Mainland USA.
How effing close to Nukes are we going to go with these Ukes?
The Jew needs to keep the European down and prevent a real final solution
More than that, Europe's welfare state has been made possible by economies that generated surplus wealth. Socialists tend to think that economic productivity follows investment in human capital; educated workers supply businesses with quality labor. But it's always the other way around. Successful businesses generate the money to invest in human capital (which is largely squandered, and invested in the lower half of the IQ bell curve to keep the natives at bay).
Yes look at China.
How do you figure that? "Defense" from what? Europe's biggest enemy is the US. They have/had a welfare state because of their experiences during and after WW2. The switch by the "West" to finance capitalism is driving the destruction of the welfare state here in the US and in Europe. The welfare state is being targeted by the same neoliberal and plutocratic types who are busy, right now, doing the same thing in the US. What do you think Trump and that imbecile Musk are doing? European citizens are slowly waking up to this, and it's likely US citizens will too, once they get a big dose of old-time "belt-tightening" coming their way.
Musk may be many things, but an imbecile he is not. The Western welfare state is collapsing under the influx of millions of 'refugees', many of whom are still collecting state funds three generations later.
So...you have visited Canada?
Canadian News has disclosed more than 20 truckloads hitting the underside of the concrete bridging Underpasses. Never a disclosure of the drivers names. Ever.
Karma, you say?
Throw off the JewSA and the Europeans can go back to national socialism. Throw out the negro and tranny organization (nato)
"Defense from what?"
The Russian boogeyman of course. The driving force of the rabid Russiaphobia in the west is the need to sell weapons.
So you think Musk is an imbicel? That is a special kind of stupid.
No it hasn't.
Unless you can provide we would have jizzed billions up against the wall for no reason.
Considering that europe would have no real enemies, but for America's imperial activities....
Well, they'd need to be invented.
Europe's 'welfare state' was created to thwart domestic communism and there never was a practical reason for European defense. The Soviets were anti-European colonialism, not anti-Europe. The threat was all hype for political and economic profit.
US taxpayer subsidies and cheap Russian gas.
Which Germans helped blow up Germany's source of Cheap gas?
Please do not try to persuade me that some Germans didn't Profit large from wrecking their own country.
Death to all the mercs and war tourists.
On which side?
Russia probably made more use of "mercs and war tourists" than Ukraine. A lot of Central Asians (primarily Uzbeks) signed contracts with the Russian Army, because they receive citizenship at the end of their service. Right now they are limited to six months in Russia each calendar year on visa (same as North Americans in Europe).
Donald spank me, spank me real hard and you Vance you gave me the extatic eargasm, how jealous the Euro’s were, it was the booster shot I got a hard one on without my snow, the crowd cried for more and Donney the juwel minerals are all yours, you gave mine a good blowjob, take them I’ll send in the Youngblood’s and once they’re piled up, I can put my high heels on again, tired from the Moulin Rouge, I’m ready for the real thing, Broadway and Hollywood are awaiting me.
You ARE. HIRED.
Putin just lifted "all restrictions" for the army in the special operation. Isn't that a game changer ?
I saw that floating around, it's likely fake. But we'll see if there's any corroborated follow-ups.
What does that entail?
Which restrictions? Are they allowed to have bone spurs now?
What do you have against slick willy?
I’ve never held anything against him…..🫣
Wouldn't the Duma also have to formally declare war on the terrorist regime in Kiev? I think it would be best if they did so, and take a page from the Israeli book while they're at it. Israel proved that decapitation can be highly effective - even against a fairly de-centralized group like Hezbollah (described by an fine Israeli military historian as "the finest light infantry on the planet"). I expect it would be even more effective in the case of the highly centralized racket run by handless piano virtuoso and his puppet-handler Yermak.
Also destroy all government centers involved with payments. That will cause more chaos and corruption than already exists. When it comes to dealing with a terrorist regime like the one in Kiev, chaos and corruption are your necessary allies.
You incorrectly surmise this conflict is about defeating ukraine. It is not. If we assume that Putin is a highly intelligent cunning individual then the most logical explanation for some of his seemingly bizarre decisions is that his true goal is the demilitarization of nato and he has planned on a ten year war. If he defeats ukraine too quickly things will have to escalate significantly to achieve that.
The EU is dying of moral depravity and neurosyphilis. Nothing but insane actions should be expected from the last acts of such inbred dynasties. Once the vile Brussels Empire has collapsed, the peoples of those lands can emerge from the wreckage and face reality.
"reality" - something not experienced since the 1940s.
@Victor
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"reality" - something not experienced since the 1940s."
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The reality of Europe before the now crumbling post WWII era was among the most violent and fractious ever seen on earth. There is a REASON that the tactics, large warships and big guns to conquer a planet developed there first- and it wasn't superior intelligence linked to a particular pigmentation gene, no matter what the ice & fire crew here tell themselves.
1945 until 2025 is the longest period that Europe has gone without a full on war between local nations/states since the concept of "nation" as presently thought of was arrived at. Once the USA has no longer got a foot on their necks plus both EU and NATO have gone by the board, will they go back to their old ways?
At least 6 of the EU members have both the materials and the needed scientific/technological base to enrich or reprocess fissionable isotopes and build nuclear weapons in very short order (I expect at least Germany has already built some of the required infrastructure, if not actually fabricated components?).
Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
Well said Private! I may even have to quote you on that….from where I sit (NE USA) the EU seems increasingly bedraggled and the rift between the plebes and the self appointed elite is increasing like a calving glacier. At some point does the wether not call for Pitchforky with a chance of Torchiness?
Better to die on your feet than your knees.
@Juliaah
I am not understanding who is supposed to die (or why) in your opinion.
It was in response to the natives with pitchforks comment, saying basically that we’ve passively accepted the enemy within (the EU) for so long that you can’t blame folk for becoming angry & restless.
Immigrants, legal or not, are all flowing from countries bombed into smithereens, by the USA, Britain, Nato.
Is PEACE really not the most profitable option? Of course, but the profits aren't flowing into the grubby hands of the Churners and Skimmers.
Who bombed mexico?
I would say whether it is "foot on their necks", or just accepting the role of compliant vassal, the prosperity and peace that (non Russian) Europe has enjoyed over the last 80 years will most likely come to an end.
History tells us what will come.
I cannot help thinking that we are in full European kabuki / clown show (or whatever you want to call it window dressing exercise) to prepare European populations for what will inevitably be a major defeat in Ukraine - while trying to do some domestic damage control before the next round of elections. Something along the lines of "we are going to save Ukraine, whatever the cost" and then blame the US (or the next pandemic etc.) to explain that, "actually, ooops Ukraine cannot be saved after all but we tried really hard". Making a few billions on defence contracts in the process would work very nicely (thank you) in order to finance what will undoubtedly be complicated electoral campaigns. As a bonus, this can be used to appease Trump with massive purchases of made in America "best weapons in the world". We live in such a strange world that I would not be surprised that this was all pre-agreed with the US during the Macron and Starmer visits to Washington.
Regarding Macron, do not underestimate the internal political dynamics: following the early elections fiasco last June, he no longer has a majority in parliament and was forced to appoint Bayrou as prime minister (to replace Barnier, his first "cohabitation" prime minister, who lasted around 3 months). While Bayrou and Macron are more or less aligned, this is a minority government. Macron is therefore trying to exist in the "domaine réservé" space (foreign policy and defence) - i.e. the policy areas arguably reserved to the French president under the French constitution. Complicated when you do not control the government which in its turn controls the budget....
If they rule over us, they are not clowns, we are.
It's insidious. Like Covid. It doesn't come at once and from Monstrous Demands.
It comes first by vilifying the "enemy", then slowly but surely they start to beat the drum, you can barely hear it at first, but it is always there.
Then they close off all opposition by excommunicating, shunning questions.
"Yer either wit' us or agin' us.
Ukraine is the new covid. Der Leyen made off the record deals then & she’s doing the same now. How I see it is that these same psychopaths who tried to kill us with the vax now think they can finish the job by sending all men to die.
So….round 2 (or whatever) of the depopulation script? Not to worry though, there seems to be a steady stream of replacements
Like the Coke advert
Lacking the will to watch actual TV…….no se?
Sorry, I meant the old Seekers one from the 70s where they talk about everyone being brown.
Not from Europe or the UK, the citizens hate the elite and their governments, they won't die for them as they are treated as second-class citizens, and they won't be signing up for the EU except for some dumb ignorant mercs.
What???? What's wrong with you ????
I am certain Starmer and Macron will have endless recruits lining up for the new Muslim/Sikh/Nigerian Army.
Who wouldn't be eager to defend the Welfare State where generations of your family have lived in luxury?
The old days of railroading the Scots/Welsh and Irish might be fading but the future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
couple years ago I listened to a program with Irina Alksnis (spelling unsure), in russian where the question about Europe/Euroreich was asked. Her answer was multifold
- they really do not have a lot of options and very limited choice
- decrease in quality of life in inevitable and unavoidable so what do you do with 'extra' three or four hundred million people that you cannot provide good quality of living for ?
- mobilize them and utilize them on the eastern front (does not matter against who , you can make 'the enemy' as you go. The Turks/Islamists are coming, the Russians are coming, the Chinese are coming ,etc.
and the saddest part (for me), it would probably work... Europe is utilizing its 'extra' population that is no longer support and provide for. Whose in Europe who can will try to escape to either USA or Russia (both VERY Christian , traditional states , very much alike). The rest would have to fight over ever decreasing pool of resources which would feed societal frictions , blame migrants, blame this , blame that. You can see this in Latin America and that is coming to EU.
Yes, but look it the population. Effeminate men, youth, not used to 'hardship' of any kind, the 'oh so liberated' women. How long do you think it would take to turn them into an army that can fight the Russians on their home turf.
You know all your slanders are truthful how, exactly? Because you somehow "look" at the millions there and divined it?
You may be right. But show me from whence these "Grande Euro Armies" shall spring?
Turks are going to fight Russians for Ukrainians and Germans? Algerians are going to fight Russians for the French Uberclass ?
Good luck with that wish.
Anyone that hasn't been locked in a cellar knows it true.
I would say about 60 years.
Or if a catastrophe, then only 20 years.
dont underestimate the power of brainwashing media. dehumanization, etc. HALF of 'Ukrainians' (who are all essentially russians) have actual relatives on territory of Russian Federation and it took <5 years of braindead zombie level propaganda for the very same people to believe utter nonsense , start serving 'dead Donetsk baby cake', 'blood of moskal' cocktails, etc. scary how quickly humans become zombies willing to do anything and everything under propaganda machine.. If EU leadership decides its time for 1/5 of its population to be disposed of, the 'media' will go full blast.
I think that with Macron's threat of the use of nukes, Russia should consider pre-emptive strikes and French munitions storage sites.
Who would be stupid enough to make such a statement knowing that Russia has 5580 nuclear warheads and France a measly 290.
Russia can deliver in minutes. France can talk for hours.
Ils sont fous ces Francais.
Heehee, like Starmer and the UK have done?
Sturmer is the continuation of the EU in all but name.
He clearly isn't. He's jumping onto Trump's lap for the sake of UK trade, is dumping Ukraine and is selling off the UK to deregulated free zones for BlackRock that wouldn't be allowed under the EU.
He must be doing a really good impression of backing the Ukronazis then. As far as American Caesar goes, the British state has based its foreign policy on creeping up his arse since the Suez crime so no change there. The Liarbour Partei collaboration with the Democrats election campaign has come out and I hope that Trump's vindictiveness gets a good outing these next four years. ;O)
Yes, he is. Hugging Zelensky is easy and showy. But he needs trade with Trump for the economy alot more than the brownie points for 'standing (well back) with Ukraine'.
He needs trade with everyone and apparently has sneaked in and done the minerals deal under Trump's nose. We'll know more when the pantomime dromedary leaves state right.
Cheryl, you certainly have a way with words. Love it. My kind of vile…
The videos are beyond horrendous. And it is beyond my understanding as to why ordinary Ukrainians continue to fight, when it is surely obvious to them that the war is lost and there is absolutely nothing to be gained by continuing to die.
Perhaps someone can enlighten me, I cannot understand such behaviour. In that situation I would simply run away, nothing else makes any sense.
Remember that what you see is highly selected to fit the propaganda. Yes, most of the western Ukraine is against Russia for the past criminal activities, but they forget that those were directed and coordinated by the same jews who now are leading Ukraine.
Secret Societies is more accurate. The Rockefellers, Gates and Buffet are not Jews.
What’s your best way to wake-up those who didn’t yet?
The more the awakened, the sooner this nightmare will be over!
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Why is food poisoning legal? (Rumsfeld forced the FDA approval of Aspartame/Nutrasweet)
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Your phone attacking with ultrasonic booms?
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/sound-of-silence-challenge
How could a father get 20 million dollars from the Government?
A 20 sec video of a baby with vax seizures?
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/autism-day-shall-we-celebrate-the
Your opinion about Big Pharma scandals?
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Ready for anti-COVIDiot pills?
Did you know that Fauci admitted that there was no scientific basis for social distancing?
https://thefederalist.com/2024/06/04/fauci-admits-there-was-no-scientific-evidence-for-six-foot-social-distancing-rule/
That the CDC admitted that masking was useless against COVID?
https://web.archive.org/web/20211230231436/https://www.dailyveracity.com/2021/07/26/over-50-scientific-studies-conclude-masks-do-nothing-to-prevent-the-spread-of-illness-so-why-do-people-keep-claiming-they-work/
https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-08-28-cdc-admits-masks-totally-useless-against-covid.html
That you’ve been lockdowned for nothing? Johns Hopkins meta-analysis of 18000 studies proved that lockdowns didn’t work and worse, killed people by stopping those with cancer or heart conditions from getting testing and treatment
https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf
Could you please explain why no Health Agency researched the 30+ COVID effective cures, but instead censored and banned the doctors successfully applying them? Was it because a successful cure would void the Emergency Use Authorization of the lethal vaccines?
http://c19early.com
http://bit.ly/research2000
Should every single vaxxed on the planet be suing Pfizer and Moderna for deliberately hiding human DNA plasmids in their vaccines, and Pfizer, for injecting an undisclosed carcinogenic monkey virus (SV40) sequence in the clueless biohacked, as officially recognized by Health Canada?
Failed again? Show 10 secs in the middle of this video (who doesn’t have 10 seconds for you)
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(caveat about the beginning: pot destroys your brain + “Raises Risk of Heart Attack and Stroke”)
9/11: two "planes", yet 8 towers down. WTC7 imploded, free falling on its footprint, in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach as well as the unblemished Deutsche Bank. All 7 World Trade Center towers and that bank needed to be rebuilt, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center...
The “owner” took an insurance policy for the WTC against terrorism, months before, when no one was taking them … he didn’t show up for work on 9/11 … just as his 2 grown up siblings.
The inside information about the FUTURE 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!
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https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/107-911
There's a plan to slow-murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 … ”:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depopulation-or-extermination
- J6: The false flag operation of the fake riot was planned, incited and guided by 200 infiltrated FBI mason agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know
In 2022, the same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband millions of Brazilians against the stolen elections through the rigged voting machines owned by mason Soros:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us
Weaponization of migration to destroy nations
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/weaponization-of-migration
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/45-million-human-barbies
Elections: bought or stolen? Both!
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- Since the 90s, vaccines are weaponized to reduce the population by adding hCG to infertilize women: lab-detected in 30 countries, and overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” (tampering) by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas). Check SoundChoice.org or videos.
- Excess deaths in the first 2 years: 40 million people killed by the lethal injections... so far. COVID was designed as a primer for even more lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/you-are-anti-haccine
The COVID vax infertility bomb will explode in 10-20 years, when the haxxed children grow up.
- You’ll go nowhere and you’ll be happy:
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- Elon's top secret: EVs cause cancer
Go green with gasoline!
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- You are the carbon they want to exterminate! Proven in 3:
1. No one denies that man affects the weather, but science disagrees with the official narrative.
Prehistoric data from ice cores proves that temperature rise precedes carbon release in the atmosphere, not the other way around.
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2. There's proof of deliberate geoengineering to increase global temperatures and droughts, and decrease albedo by dissolving clouds with satellite and Weather Radars’ Electro-Magnetic Frequencies.
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3. Life involves a carbon cycle. A war on carbon is a war on life, causing crop/food scarcity, increase in food prices and famines. Decarbonization is part of the plan to exterminate 95% of us.
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/carbon-reparations
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/climate-deaths
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/killing-me-softly-with-green-songs
- Apart from sin-empowered demons, what is their main source of power? NOT a coincidence that the USA left dollar convertibility to gold in 1971, precisely triggering the exponential government deficit coupled with the trade deficit and inflation.
Taking down central banking doesn't solve the problem. Their source of free endless money is counterfeiting, fractional reserve banking and financial instruments (e.g. derivatives, debt over debt, compound interest above real growth, etc.). Also, insider information, sabotage, infiltration, manufactured news and events to create profitable market-movements.
This is the Achilles’ heel of all nations: the SSS (Satanic Secret Societies such as masonry) create trillions out of thin air and launder them through their Banks, foundations, and foreign loans and “aid”, with which they buy puppeticians and seats in the boards of the Federal Reserve (the only private-run Central Bank in the world), judiciary, corporations, media, healthcare, universities, foundations, political parties, etc.
The masons’ worst nightmare is that the daydreaming majority wakes up, finds out their crimes, and seek justice. We are a million to one. Until they achieve the CBDC digi-tatorship, they are walking on a tight rope.
We've got a very small window of opportunity to fight or ... die (they want to murder 95% of us).
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Who’s got THAT kind of power?: to vanish a ratified Amendment!
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Who are The Powers That SHOULDN'T Be ?
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https://www.coreysdigs.com/global/who-is-they/
Why mason LBJ killed JFK?
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/lbj-killed-jfk
Weaponization of Justice
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/weaponization-of-justice
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But. Are you saying Tony Blair was only pretending he wasn't a Catholic?
Shut up, antisemite tosseur.
The actual population of israhell are khazars, not semites.
No, they are the occupiers, the population is mainly Semitic, comprising Palestinian Jews, chris, Muslims and seculars.
So Ashkenazi Jews are Semites?
I wouldn't want to have to do a head count, but we could start with the Polish Mileikowsky.
No they are the occupiers, the indigenous people who call themselves Jews really are, the Askenazis are the nazis, the clue's in the name.
Squeeth the Jew defending his chicken swinger tribe yet again.
The zionazi shiteheads aren't Jews, they are nazis, the clue is in the name. Do keep up, pretend antisemite.
Why are you always trying to deflect from the Jew problem? Something like 93 % of Jews in Israel support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Zionist =jew Jews support the isreal project.
You are pretending again, haSSbara jackboot boy.
Such a brilliant comeback there Jew squeeth
Eythenkew!
What is this alleged criminal activities you speak of?
I wouldn't neglect the impact of hectoring Nazis. Like the troops that keep the penal battalions moving forward.
Insert Kissinger quote HERE>>>>
I actually don’t understand why Kissinger would be relevant here. He did have some experience with Nazis, but that probably isn’t it.
"To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
-Kissinger
Kissinger did have an honesty problem. His comments about Nixon were also probably things he'd prefer not to have been public.
But the above quote is true. Even a broken clock tells the true time at least once:-)
Thanks but nah , doesn’t explain why they willingly commit suicide for nix. I understand why the Japanese did it in WW2 because of-the pervasive emperor cult. Sure there is propaganda in their media(I read it regularly) , but it doesn’t really stack up , and its is clear from comments or lack of them that few people actually believe the Z bullshit.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Imagine how lethal the battlefield is, I expect that thousands of US_Ukronazi casualties are of people trying to stay alive long enough to surrender.
Fighting age males are not allowed to leave the country. They are conscripted or kidnapped. Once in the army its desertion to run away. That’s why.
A year ago the explanation was courage but now it’s coercion.
Plenty of young Ukrainian me here in the UK. Stealing work from us by working for less.
Typo... MEN not me!
They would if they could. They need to pay huge bribes to flee. How many common people have that sort of money? And its martial law there, with nazi SBU keeping strict control.
Bone spurs. An automatic out.
Yea it worked well for bill clinton
Desertion does appear to be a viable option , which apparently so many (100k +) have taken that authorities “forgive you” if you return.
If arrested a jail cell seems preferable to the front but this doesn’t appear to be an option either.
There are many stories of the Azov types waiting behind the front lines and shooting deserters. So at all costs I would avoid the front lines and if I did get there , surrender to the Russians would be my strategy.
But I agree , none of these very poor options are easily accomplished.
Not just stories, there are videos showing them killing their own.
Yes, multiple videos of this are available, and surprisingly often it is foreign 'mercs' who speak english that execute those who try to flee.
Likely some NATO scumbags who are 'on vacation' like that US spec operator who was killed in Ukraine some time ago.
Many of the foreign mercenaries are associated with the nationalist battalions like Azov on an organizational level. They're not deploying to the zero line alongside AFU regulars. Nationalist units tend to have armor and artillery, western training on systems, and be deployed in high-value assaults (like Robotinye and Kursk) or used as backstops to shoot retreating AFU regulars as they attempt to withdraw.
Not all deserters are shot. Most are reformed into mine-clearing detachments or rear-guard with no hope except to die. The looks on the guys faces in their little holes says it all - they know they are already dead.
What gets me is how effective this is. At times whole Russian advances are held up by two IQ challenged Ukrainians hiding in a hole.
Why dont the azov types get taken out by the ‘deserters’?
hatred of Russian, sunk cost fallacy, going along with everyone else.
The country was progressively deprived of any real oposition. Years of political assassinations of politicians and journalists, banning of parties, repression of free speech and media, in total impunitity, resulted in mass migration. I already met fled Ucranians in France in the early 2000's. For those who stayed it is possibly too late. Many are surprised there was not any resistance or upheaval in Ucraine. Well, there was one, that of the Donbass heroes, of those who died burnt alive in the Odessa Union house. They fought and they died. Happily, their children are now free but they could have lost too. For those who went along with western fascism, there is hell now. No exit.
Keeping in mind that the Ukraine has been subject to a rather sinister grooming program for the past decade and beyond. The goal was ever to turn it into an expendable battering ram, used in vain to agitate Russia in the hopes it might collapse leaving the plunder of resources open to the hyenas and vulture that had been turned back by Bad Vlad and his team….
Powerful performance founded in deceit.
Z-boy runs on Peace with Russia, gets votes from all over Ukraine. Bombs Russian speakers, burns them alive in Odessa.
Lying German Merz, runs on containing German Debt. Not elected 2 milliseconds and has a plan ready to borrow 900 million.
Now that is the dictionary definition of deceit.
Hmm , not sure about those reasons either when confronted with your own almost certain extinction in a very short time frame. Sorry still can’t understand it
Part of it might be that they are basically Russians and Russians don't give up easily. Remember the Fortress of Brest held out longer than France and the Low Countries in 1941.
Your question really gets to the heart of the matter.
To me it seems, albeit greatly simplifying the matter, that it comes down to emotions and misplaced tribalism: a love for their blue-and-yellow flag and the name of their country, which they don't want replaced with the Russian white-blue-red equivalent (a fate worse than death), rather than rationality, i.e. that in practice, life under Russian-Eurasian "occupation" would be no worse than under Euro-Atlantic "occupation".
In hindsight, the 2015 Minsk and 2022 Istanbul agreements were extremely favorable to Ukraine (keep most of your country and its flag; even join the EU, if you want – VVP said it), but they missed their chance due to emotionalism in place of rationalism.
Ukrainian nationalism seems more like an invented tradition, especially for the Russian speakers. Peer-group loyalty doesn't seem likely either considering that peer-groups disappear so quickly on an industrial battlefield.
In a more refined view, there is:
• Banderite (black-and-red) fanaticism, which is more Galician than Ukrainian, i.e. western region and Ukrainian-speaking, partly former Polish territory.
• Regular Ukrainian (blue-and-yellow) nationalism/patriotism, center/east/south regions, where the Russian speakers congregate, people who in many (most?) cases have relatives living in RF.
It becomes confused, firstly because these segments have rather different histories but have become lumped together into one "unified" Ukraine.
Next, the Banderites have been heavily promoted by the Euro-Atlantic alliance to the point of effectively usurping the rest of the country and making Russian-speakers hate their own RF relatives.
Although this "Ukraine" is historically something of an artificial construct (thanks to Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev successively), it has effectively become people's core identity (as they view themselves), hence the absurdity of Russian speakers fighting for a regime than bans the Russian language and wants to kill their Russian relatives.
I don't take 'identity' seriously, I follow a class analysis of society.
@Squeeth
"A class analysis of society" requires entirely too much intelligence, education and fore brain type rational thinking plus some time, your average human populations are most easily motivated to kill through stimulation of entirely different parts of their brains- The really old parts that will fight & kill over maintaining a tribe's territory.
Sorry, man. We are what we are, on the average.
Life is too complicated for humans to be reduced to a mechanistic simulacrum. People will kill for gain, for principle and for fear of the consequences of refusal. It takes a lot of propaganda though. Conflict over territory was caused by population growth, not by innate human characteristics.
why would it be obvious to them? the soldiers are,of course, locked inside their little military bubbles. the civilians see/hear only what they're told. Look at us. Our civilians. What are they shown/told? This? No way. They know nothing of this and no one is trying to tell them.
Such as this, for instance, makes no suggestion anywhere that you even should tell them ! Or how you could tell them even. Does it give any links, say, and suggest you add them to your emails? Does it point to any 'venues' where all might be revealed? Does it give any links to irrefutable sources of truth?
Nope. It just preaches to the converted and that's all any of them do.
So the people generally know nothing. Our people, their people.
And people are so gullible. Macron telling the French the Russians are coming for them !
The English told the Russians are coming for them !
And the Kiev Ukrainians will be told the might of USA and NATO and Europe will save them. And they'll be believing it, I suspect.
p.s. Perhaps I should do better than merely criticise. Well I have. Long ago I put up a site: ukrainehonesty.com. It does nothing, did nothing, has garnered no attention and I rarely look at it myself and never add content. But, I mean: I did that much... tried that much to establish a venue, a locus, a point of reference, an avenue all might share. How many of our vaunted, esteemed 'alt media' (which we usually esteem simply because they are 'alt media') have done that much?
Answers to your question seem reasonable ...mostly. But I think that in the end, most of these Ukies are fighting because an enemy is in their homeland - they are, in their eyes, truly defending their homes and lives. It doesn't really matter why the enemy is destroying their country - rightly or wrongly - it does matter, however, that their homes and families and lives are threatened. They have a long tradition of fighting to the end to protect their lands.
So between their everlasting hatred of Russians and their desire to protect their homeland, they fight on, and will do so until the war ends one way or another.
Ukraine is a fiction so I don't take ideology seriously as a motivator, exemplary violence by the US-Ukronazis makes far more sense.
@Squeeth
"Ukraine is a fiction so I don't take ideology seriously as a motivator"
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Please Google "30 years war"?
Ideology + sociopathy/opportunism work just fine. The combination always worked in Europe before-
https://youtu.be/b_VdfAjAuds?si=zaiX3LCUZ7anvaFZ
I don't look at elgoog and I don't waste my time with American pseudoscience.
Have a nice day.
You too.
Most of the Ukies are not even fighting.
Those with awareness know the enemy is not in their homeland, the enemy, they thankfully know, is still over there in Donbas which has never been their homeland.
That's their problem, they know that, Donbas was not/is not their homeland and so they wish to drive out Russians and all Russian connection and make it their homeland, don't they?
Most of them are not going to keep fighting for that.
That much I believe has already been established by surveys: there's a majority happy to end the war and secede territory.
We universally ignore the Civil War that it is but they know about it. Submerged wherever the authorities can submerge it beneath tirades and propaganda about USA and Russia and NATO etc. etc.... all kinds of obfuscation ... but there.
Very much there. Because so strongly interwoven into the very fabric of their life and history.
Cannot be denied, refuted. That's what the govt and the rabid nationalists are trying to do, 'unweave' it from the present and the past and the future. Madness.
There is no everlasting hatred of Russians in the general populace at all.
A little more concentration on the People would be good. It is where we all should be looking all the time.
But it is where no one looks at any time.
I constantly bang on about the language, the word 'Ukraine' as it is universally used today, msm and alt-media alike. It means always 'Kiev Ukraine' or the ruling Junta to be more precise. It never means 'Ukraine' that includes 10 million Donbas Ukrainians.
Never.
'Support Ukraine' means, literally, attack that 10 million. Kill them. Where is that 'support Ukraine' ? Only in Orwellian new speak where 'Ukraine' means the Junta.
Do you see my point? My point is that such a simple misuse of a noun literally obliterates 10 million people.
That's my point.
Can't get it across though. :)
Those comments do go some way to answering the question i asked, but there is clearly a very widespread understanding of the hopelessness of their situation in Ukraine based on the widespread destruction, lack of power , the cemeteries covered in flags , word of mouth from those who have been at the front etc. Given the huge numbers of people who have fled and the fact that 30% speak Russian I’m not sure nationalist feeling and/ or hatred of Russia are as prevalent as is implied(more so in the western part as I understand ).
Maybe it is simply herd instinct that compels them to keep fighting a hopeless war. Sad reflection on our species, if true and a good reason to distrust the herd (majority). If the covid scam didn’t teach us that likely nothing will.
You raise a very good point which I have struggled to understand. In WW2 I could understand why the Wehrmacht fought to the very end. But in Ukraine they have not had the same level of brain washing as existed in Nazi Germany.
They ALL speak Russian. 30% of them speak it as a mother tongue.
Way more than that. The only reason I ever learned Ukrainian at all was to be able to read the legal codes. "How to say that in Ukrainian?" was a running joke in the office.
For that matter, I was at an expat gathering, chatting up a female, when a Canadian nationalist (another stock figure in Ukrainian humor of the time) asked if we were speaking Russian or Ukrainian. The girl answered "Russian. Like normal people."
Another true story was the time I had to explain (in Russian) the meanings of basic Ukrainian words to two Ukrainian businessmen, both born and raised in Kiev.
I did wonder, the number seemed kind of low.
Hilarious stories!
An American media outfit once did a survey in Ukraine where the public were given the option of having the questionnaire in Russian or Ukrainian. Nearly everyone across the country chose to take the survey in Russian.
Russian is actually the majority language in Ukraine. You can hear it on the streets of Kiev in private conversations, or in leaked phone calls with Zelensky, Poroshenko, Ahmetov, etc. The overwhelming use of Ukrainian language in schools, workplaces, and, of course, the media, is a policy or ideological decision and mostly not people's natural inclination (except in Western regions, which are naturally Ukrainian-speaking).
Example: in the linked video with the wounded ("if you can stomach it"), there is more Russian than Ukrainian language spoken, even though government employees are officially required to speak Ukrainian, and these Russian-speaking soldiers are fighting for the regime that has largely banned their native language, closed their schools, burns their books and in various other ways abuses people for speaking their native language (if Russian or Hungarian; though they're mostly fine with other languages).
Funny story. Shortly after the so-called "Orange Revolution" I was invited to a press-conference conducted by some Yushchenko functionary. Needless to say, the speech was in Ukrainian, full of flowery unadulterated bullshit about intellectual prpperty rights being respected in Ukraine, even though pirated software was openly for sale on the street not 100 meters away.
But the Q&A session afterwards was in Russian. The speaker could read Ukrainian from a script, but could not formulate an original response in that language.
True story, no lie.
Ukraine in a nutshell.
Zelensky has the same problem. He learned Ukrainian well enough to speak it from a script but when it comes to an extended sit down with extemporaneous speech and back and forth it's clear he's not very good at the language, making a lot of mistakes. He also cusses in Russian. The way he said "suka" under his breath at Vance was the Russian way to say it, not Ukrainian.
Zelenskii has this in common with many Ukrainian nationalists who speak only Russian when in private.
I can give otehr examples.
A mother's tongue
"the hopelessness of their situation in Ukraine based on the widespread destruction, lack of power ,"
The first thing to remember is that a few guys with machine guns who are ruthless about killing can keep a hundred other people who aren't armed under control. When the nazi junta seized power in Kiev in 2014 they had mountains of weapons and billions of dollars courtesy of the US, and they were totally ruthless about killing anybody who opposed them. They rounded up and killed 50,000 Ukrainians in territories they controlled who opposed them. They did that mostly quietly, arresting people here and there and taking them away and then they never were seen again.
They also took over all media and killed anybody who pushed back against them. There aren't a whole lot of heroes in mainstream media, you know, and after people get disappeared or get shot in the street the rest of them go along with the narrative. The nazis also terrorized people in territories they captured. For example, there have been many dozens of mass graves, typically 100 to 300 people, exhumed in Donbass where the nazis executed people, sometimes entire villages.
As for graphic examples of cowing people, perhaps the most public was the burning alive of 47 peaceful protestors in Odessa, while the police either looked on or participated in shooting people who tried to escape the flames. If you witness something like that you keep your head down.
Now, you might say, why not escape? The answer is that's expensive and risky to do in a police state. They kill people who try, or send them to the front to die. Why not surrender? Because if you try they shoot you in the back or catch you and torture you to death.
As for "widespread destruction," there isn't any in Ukraine. All the destruction is in Russia, which is what the four regions that joined Russia are. The fighting is going on in Russia. Walk around Kiev and there isn't any "widespread destruction." There are only a few locations here and there where Russia has hit arms factories, hotels taken over by the military and similar. Things like power stations or other war-related infrastructure are point objects. They aren't on every street corner.
Good context , makes more sense to me - thanks for that
Hussein,
it is not complicated, not a rocket science.
Imagine, for a second that you are not online writing from the comfort and absolute security.
A. imagine we all know your name, address, family, job...
B. imagine you are still at your own PC/laptop but in the giant space surrounded by secret police, army recruiters, ... like Gonzalo Lira
C. imagine you are forcefully conscripted, beaten, thrown in trenches
Your chances of expressing your thoughts, following your decisions, would be significantly reduced...
with each step A, B, and C
If Ukrainian surveillance is as well organised as you say, then the desertion numbers wouldn’t be so high and they wouldn’t be offering to let deserters return without penalty. In the chaos and confusion of war opportunities likely arise anyway. Don’t think it is quite as “simple” as you say.
Hussein,
if you prefer some other word, instead of simple, OK
if you do not agree, OK
facts are facts
we are all free to call facts with different names, nouns, adjectives, but using a common language, based on English and common sense, makes it easier to communicate, connect, exchange opinions...
Facts are facts,
there is a huge amount of data, anecdotes, personal experience shared in comments, original interesting data excavated by Simplifies, coming from present day Ukraine
there is a whole line of historical records showing how extreme political forces
are able to control societies, stiffle dissent, and organise millions into armies that fight and die in wars, both undemocratic as well as democratic
It is history of Europe I 20th century, in times of communism and national socialism
I, do understand that you may be somewhat young, naive, or old and naive, and that you need more time to understand. But it will come in time, realisation, epiphany, awakening, whatever you call it.
There is no point of arguing about your opinion, or the speed of realisation of reality,
You say you think it is not quite as simple in a sense that you are not satisfied with explanations other commenters offered, as an answer to your wondering.
I believe you.
But most of the commenters agree that there is no mystery, what happens in Ukraine today has happened many times in history, and can be rationally explained.
I believe you do not exactly get it. And I do not take it as your fault.
It is what it is.
It is not simple,
Thought so total wanker - bye
Millions of Ukrainians have run away; those that are still alive opposite the Russians have to time their move carefully, lest they get shot in the back. The best thing to do is find a nice big hole and hide in it when the Ukulele army is forced to retreat. With luck you can come out and go down The Winchester for a nice cool pint and wait for the whole thing to blow over.
The videos have been horrendous on both sides. The two armies have been relatively eventy matched, with an edge to the Russian Army, throughout the war. Even just in the past few days, the AFU has retaken ground from the RA in the Pokrovsk area. For a long time, Ukraine had an advantage in drone technology and production, and were at least successful in maintaining various lines. I don't think the perception of most Ukrainian soldiers matches what you describe ("obvious that the war is lost").
Probably a lot of AFU troops don't have a good sense of the larger dynamics of the war; they are familiar with the limited area they are assigned to. Both sides forbid using smart phones or other internet devices near the zero line because the signals can be tracked and targeted. RA troops have been steadily rotated throughout the war, so all of the Russian troops have time to catch up on news and message with friends / family in the near-rear. The AFU troops have not been regularly rotated - they stay on the zero line until they're pulled off to redeploy elsewhere (and then phones are forbidden to keep the troop transport from being tracked) or left on the line until they're dead or captured.
Because they have been promised that this war is their ticket to The Goodies, The Golden Billion, The Magical Land Where Institutions Basically Work.
Bingo. Because if there’s one thing the West still excels at, it’s lying to people and manipulating them.
How many times have the Americans betrayed the Kurds? Six now is it or seven? I lose count.
But the Kurds keep on coming back for more.
Eurocrat and Brit desperation reek of desperately seeking excuses for default. Simon Hunt's speculation on BoE delays in gold delivery and BIS involvement in avoiding a financial collapse. This was all supposed to end in Russia's collapse and a vampire's feast so will the fumes last to 27-28? C'mon, some people are optimists, what have the last three years been?
The war continues until 2027. This is my prediction now since 2023. I stand by it.
I'm afraid if the US economy takes a dive, then Trump, if he is still alive, in two years will have to face a Democratic House and Senate and take the blame for Biden's and the Oligarchs', MIC's, Globalists' etc BS. He will be hamstrung politically. Profiteering and control through chaos will remain the strategy of the globalists in the West, especially after the mid terms. Getting a hold of Ukraine's rare earths as a business man is his objective. Same with the Gaza strip to build his empire of casinos and luxury resorts. Trump is no mother Teresa. His sliver spoon life has been beauty contests, UFC , WWF, casinos, golf courses, books promoting his business savvy like the Art of the Deal which should be called The Art of the Con,as he left at least 4 bagholders when when his four business aventures went belly up in the 1990s and had to be bailed out by Wilbur Ross of Deutsch Bank. A womanizing draft dodger who got out of service because of "heel spurs."
Meanwhile Russia has realized it can NEVER trust the West again and the price to keep its sovereignty will be a perpetual low grade conflict so as to keep its own military well honed and weapons production at the needed level of readiness. Eternal vigilence.
Furthermore, Russia doesn't want to appear too aggressive as that will only add fodder to GBrit, France,and others to escalate even more. Thus Russia will elect to continue the slow grinding war of attrition where everyone gets tired of the war, but not alarmed over a sudden crushing Russian advance.
Quietly behind the scenes, economic issues on both sides are lurking , i.e., energy, debt, living standards etc putting pressure on both sides. Thus, a low grade grinding conflict is entirely possible as you suggest for another two years. Both sides too weak to gain a decisive victory, but for political and globalists' reasons do not want to end the conflict. The grift is too good.
Besides Trump is more concerned about adding feathers to his cap as a "deal maker" rather than being a true statesman. He is owned by many oligarchs despite being a billionaire himself.
Right. Russia is not in a hurry. Forget about the rare earths. Ucraine will never be rebuilt by the vampyres.
The rare earth metals story is a complete hoax. The US geological survey has revealed that Ukraine has very little in the way of rare earth metals.
When I worked in Ukraine, one thing I worked on was to try to drum up interest in investing int he Ukrainian mineral sector.
Enough to say that Ukraine is not some treasure trove of untapped mineral wealth. Note the complete lack of interest, even before Ukrainian infrastructure was wrecked.
The fact that it was Ukraine's initiative to offer this "mineral deal" in Sep 2024, gives me a pause:-)
I don’t see Ukraine surviving to 2027, but that’s the SMO, as to war with the UK, France, and EU states certainly will continue. Once the money is gone and the grift is up the current crop of Ukraine’s leadership will abandon ship. The current ambassador to the UK as leader in exile, definitely, but he’s just another Guaido.
bingoooo.
Given the state of bond markets in Fr, De and UK and general economic stagnation the collapse is only a small crisis away. A crisis of perhaps US Russia detente.
Europe has disintegrated into madness. It is literally insane, perverse and beliggerant as well. NATO is a total disaster and neither The US or Canada should have anything further to do with it. In fact the withdrawal of the two outsiders will leave NATO as a fully European defense organization and one much less likely to push for a major war with Russia.
There is nothing insane happening. The current European leadership cannot politically survive Finlandizing to Russia, but without US protection that is their only real option. They are writhing right now. Give it some time.
Russia should be an essential member of NATO. If the US retires than Russia should take its place. Europe does not have to be divided. Russia is not Communist, it is capitalist, it isn't Godless it is Christian, it isn't a raging dicatorship, it is a nascent democracy that needs other democracies' support to become wholly democratic.
The requisite trust in the west does not exist. Perhaps in 20 or 40 years this will be true. For the time being they have to be fearful.
Europe, and more so the UK, are not godless. Agree, but the name of their god is not "I AM"
you say godless like it is a bad thing.
The average "Christian" is a moral degenerate and hypocrite.
USA is a right wing shit hole because it has so many "plastic Christians" over there.
I can't take right wingers seriously at all because their political ideology does not reflect their actions ever.
Christianity seems to be an inherently hypocritical doctrine, only fit for social validation and control. With the exception of the amis, menonites and other minor groups.
i agree about the amis, mennonites etc. even the amis have iphones (generators on back patio, not in the house).
There is a way to follow Christianity and be less of a hypocrite, but most plastic Christians are narcissists and self reflecting is beyond them.
Like right wing American Christians spew on about family values, but they are in fact anti family, Right and left have a long history of attacking the family.
This is a pretty complex subject, but the average right wing Christian trad con is not Christian or a trad con. the nuclear family is not traditional, and these people get remarried all the time. (That is fornication. You can only get married again if your spouse dies from what I remember.)
Family values is house wife mate guarding fetishization.
For example left wing and right wingers both support child support, Child support is about female supremacy, and incentivises women to break up stable families and boot fathers out. Children suffer under single mothers.
If you try explaining this to the average right winger they will just mindless repeat nonsense about dead beat dads, and men need to take responsibility, when fatherlessness was a lot rarer before child support, and it is mothers who break most families up. You try explaining to the average right winger that child support causes fatherlessness, their eyes glaze over, and they carry on mindlessly blaming fathers.
So I have to conclude right wingers offer nothing, since they their political ideas are about making themselves feel good, and are nothing to do with objective reality.
I could post about how the left are full of shit and hypocrites, but at least they have some workable ideas, the right has nothing as far as I can see. (The right do point to some real problems, but when they get into power they make it worse, or at best do nothing to fix them.)
I completely agree with you and would say most rather than many.
Russia is not Christian, it has divorce single motherhood and abortion.
the propaganda says they are. there are no 'christian nations'.
Then where did the term "all of Christendom" come from?
Christianity is dead.
I suspect, but don't know, it is phrase that attempts to blend the two words Christ's Kingdom, this is not a nation as we know nation/states.
Ah but they are... Chip
are western countries democracies? What a joke !
silly you, you don't believe in democracy? now stop being an anti-patriot and take your shot and i'll upload it onto your digital id....
I think the system needs elections to validate their mandate. Nothing else. Concerning the real power of the common people, well, at this point, there is none.
illiberal pseudo democracies. Russia is one too, but Russia is lower on the scale, they are less illiberal and more democratic than we are.
Archie. Why would Russia jump in to a snake pit?
Actually I don't know, but after the USSR imploded, The Russians wanted in to the Western global system.
You assume that Russia being capitalist, mostly Christian, and generally sane makes it an ally of Europe. In fact, the Europeans today oppose all of those things and will fight to prevent anything like capitalism, Christianity, or sanity from entering their continent.
How unfortunate is that!
Well... if you respect Western Civilization and what it accomplished, it is very sad what has happened to Europe. If you hate the West because of some sort of colonial/post-structuralist/feminist/anti-Christian/Marxist grievance, then it is a most happy event.
Europe is capitalist.
The European states have been ruled for decades by a international socialist political class. Subservience to ideology over inconvenient facts is the main pre-requisite of the system - this is why they can not face the reality of a Russian victory. Notice how they have spent years talking to each other about Ukraine, but won't pick up the phone to Putin.
"The European states have been ruled for decades by a international socialist political class."
This is right wing brain rot right here. "Capitalists are really international socialists."
Lol, who calls the Nazi WEF crowd socialists. Bankers, royalty, arms dealers, they remind me so much of Ho, Castro, Chavez. ROFL.
They are all capitalists. Right wingers with brain rot do not want to admit that capitalism leads to what we have now. So they have to relabel what right wing capitalism socialism, Nazi's did the same thing.
It's a strange definition of 'capitalism' you must be working with.
I think "international socialist political class" is a euphemism for Jews to be honest.
"They are capitalists and communists at the same time" is a contradictory idea the nazis believed in.
History doesn't repeatbut it sure gets close.
Alex, my friend no one bothers with euphemisms for Jews on here. At least 10% of commentators blame literally everything on "the Jews".
Yes but you have fellow travelers who do use euphemism.
Champagne Socialists aka self styled elites aka globocapitalists
who plunder some socialist diktats to their advantage, like ‘rules based societies’ - rules for thee not me.
That is not socialism, no idea what you are on about. I don't think you know what socialism is to be honest.
I see this conflation everywhere. Anything that the author doesn’t like they call ‘left’. It doesn’t matter if they are uber-wealthy financiers or Nazi’s they are, at the very least, ascribed to be socialists.
Personally I believe it is a ploy to confuse and divide people but many unthinking people unwittingly repeat it.
The inverse also goes for lefties calling everything 'fascist'
Yes you get left wing nutters, and liberals who call everyone fascists. Makes it harder to call out real fascists.
it is a dishonest tactic by right wingers, to dump the crimes of the right onto the left. It is not confusing, it is done on purpose and Orwellian.
Oh please what silly nonsense. The European ruling class has a deep seated hatred of socialism. They are comprador capitalists who have become accustomed since WW2 to following US dictates and now they are in a predicament due to trumps policies.
Zhuk. The EU has capitalism literally enshrined in its constitution. They're arguably Liberal, but the idea they are Socialist is simply not true.
international socialist political class = Jew
EU - we must cut welfare
Also EU - but not to the migrants rapists
so Russia has only 200k spearholders for a 1,000 miles long front. No wonder it's taking forever.
On what continent is the cave that you dwell in? Chip
What are you butthurt over.
Yes, it's likely true that one reason for Russia's measured advances in Ukraine is the very long line of combat. By comparison it's about twice as long as the front in WWI. This means that even though Russia is fielding a large army, they're spread out over a great distance. There are other factors as well.
200k is 1 in 3 are assault troops, which is HIGHLY unusual. "Tooth to Tail" is normally 1 in 10, for the West.
Regarding Europe cutting social wealfare to go to war against Russia (or is it against pensioners?), check out my latest post, which also contains Göring's timeless lesson on the manipulation of the masses: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/europe-at-war-not-against-russia?r=25fc37
I am sceptical of all the western word salad...no one has asked Russia what it thinks yet. Under cover of the 'just hang on while we talk peace/Ukraine will be out of weapons by end of Jan (2023)/Minsk2)' type jawboning, Ukr finds an army to invade Kursk?? IMO, ever since this began Ru has been expecting to fight NATO at some point, and have operated in that vein. Yes, there are differences in the west, but I urge caution. Also, China has been more outspoken and active of late - did something not reported happen since DJT took over that provoke this response?
The whole point of this from a US perspective is to flip Russia into our column and surround China with enemies. The US in the short term is looking at this as a way to prvot to put more forces in China's face, and the trade war dimension shouldn't be ignored.
Some of this is realistic, some of it is a pipe dream in my opinion, but the Chinese see the dagger pointed at them and are reacting.
It would be a big flip - this isn't the 60'swhen there were significant ideological differences between Russian and Chinese style communism. Both are much more pragamatic now with functioning non-financialised mixed economies. I think China exports more now to elsewhere than the USA - that affects sanction impact. China is certainly in the US crosshairs though, but given US/NATO failure in Ukr, a lot of re-industrialising and on-shoring needs to happen before the west is capable of eating that elephant. But I take your points.
I think it is more Trump looking at a Russia-China-US-BRICS trading partnership. Keeping the US dollar in the game awhile longer... Chip
Russia has been fighting NATO from the beginning. That's what this war is, or was at least. The combined West vs Russia (and by extension, BRICS). Ukraine is just the battlefield (and the main proxy force). Trump has realised that the Chinese are a big winner in this and are trying to extricate themselves to pivot (haven't I heard that somewhere before) to Asia. This is the next BRIC. When the Chinese step in to secure Iran, ensuring their energy security, then we know the war has reached a new inflection point. From Trump's perspective Biden's big mistake was getting bogged down in Eastern Europe. The Russians and Chinese are playing the long game, the EU are playing a hustle and the US are desperate to moderate their strategic decline.
Grant I think you're 100% right.
Russia has been preparing to fight NATO since at least 2022 and consequently isn't fully engaged in Ukraine, much to GM's dismay.
Substantial reserves are held back.
thanks, I haven't read Ru doctrine on war (who has?), but the SMO is not 'war'. Western ISR assets would not operate in 'war'.
“At full efficiency”. I would expect a struggle to keep assets operating and a back and forth taking out of same
The suspension of intelligence sharing is the shifting of the Overton Window.
Once something is done once, it becomes conceivable to do again even if they go back on it.
It might be not that the suspension is temporary but the restoration.
Also, did you hear about the UK already having a deal for the now famous “rare earths”with Zelensky as part of that 100 year security guarantee Starmer signed last month?
100 year guarantee analogous to a 1000 year Reich.
Alex Krainer surmises that the UK deal secretly includes the ports, energy assets, oil and gas, lithium, titanium etc. Very similar to the Bessant proposal. The rare earths are difficult to value as they are byproducts of refining other minerals (eg graphine from coal). They are probably on offer in the Ukrainian proposal but the actual value may not be massive. I'm sure everyone involved understands where the valuable assets are in Ukraine. That's why there is some much arguing going on. The hyenas are feeding but not too much meat left on the bones.
Alex Krainer is always surmising things. Like when he said all London's C.C.T.V. cameras had gone down and therefore something big was going to happen. Nothing happened (unless it was a practise run for something). Rumours abound. Got to be careful with them. Isn't the Ukraine—Britain assets deal just a rumour at this stage?
Ignoring the fact that Ukraine is not some treasure trove of untapped mineral wealth, the UK would gladly abandon any claim to anything of value in Ukraine, if that were what it takes to get the US To go to war agaisnt Russia.
Horrible stuff all around, with way to much talk from idiots who have never had a clue how to get along, in terms of fostering positive things for humanity. It has reached the point of nonstop insanity and frankly I don't know how you stand it Simplicius. I watch it almost everyday, been doing so since around 1998, still only grasping a fraction of what actually goes on.
So, I am going to dial back to simplicity. I think it was just before the end of last year or the beginning of this year, Russia affirmed its´ military budget ............. for the war. It was mapped out until the end of ................. * drum roll please * .............. 2027. While the public theatrics focus on 2, 4 or 6 months, Russia has prepared to keep this going for 3 more years .............. at least. No one is speaking a word about this.
For a long while now, I have had my suspicion that while the declared objectives of the SMO are real, another set of undeclared objectives were also in play from the very beginning. I believe they include the gutting of NATO and and the economies of their participants; especially in Europe.
While Trump seems to be making good plays, he also appears to be getting himself stuck in the mud. The Donald is on trajectory to make mistakes that will completely foul up his goals of coming out on top, with quick deals and spectacular results. What he is doing in Ukraine and now in Gaza ( telling HAMAS they are all dead if they don´t cooperate, while at the same time initiating direct talks with them, as he cuts Israel out of the pipeline ) amount to too many dance moves at a single go. Nobody is that good and he ´doesn't have the cards´ to run his mouth like he does.
My take. God bless Simplicius.
Too many dance moves. Haha. That's good.
Dancing Donald.
Was worse than telling HAMAS they are all dead , he addressed that genocidal threat to the Palestinian population.
Hey grr, how are you doing?
For me, HAMAS and the Palestinian people are inseparable, as they should be. So, it is a direct threat, a death threat, against the population. There is no excuse for this.
Yep that Zionist Adelson whore will get her shekels worth.
I don't like her at all.