Nice contribution Dave. One comment on:"If for example, Mali calls for emergency military resupply. Then what route will those aircraft fly? " Unsure exactly what you mean with that.
IMHO, few -- if any -- Sahel State exercises any sovereignty whatsoever of their imaginary airspace, other than a few broke dick and useless air surveillance radars and a few useless decrepit attack helicopters someone donated to them -- unless, of course, completely supplied and 100% controlled by third parties.
Jonathan Cook posted an essay recently in which he pointed out the parallels between the Israel-Iran and Ukraine-Russia conflicts, in the sense that both of them represent proxy wars of the US against the countries that threaten its continued global dominance.
I think Cook's analysis is on-target and that the most rewarding view on the current events is from a great powers perspective, à la John Mearsheimer. I don't dispute your observations on Russia or on China. And I also think that all of these countries (Russia, China, Iran, et al.) recognize the same big picture: the US is at a crisis point in its global domination and will do (must do) everything possible to avert a shift toward a multi-polar organization. In that case, the US will seek every avenue to divide-and-conquer, meaning that its opponents must do everything to unite-and-mutually-aid.
I'm totally an arm-chair viewer, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
First of all, BRICS was an acronym popularised by Goldman Sachs, just a branding, with the inclusion of Brazil, South Africa, and India being about investment themes. Brazil is not in the big league yet and likely never will be. India is like Turkey, a cat who sits on two chairs, more western than not. As for the RSA, it is a DEI choice only.
The Eurasian geopolitical lineup looks more like PRICK (Pakistan, Russia, Iran, China, (N)Korea. 4/5 are declared nuclear powers. Much direct trade will be over land + the Caspian Sea. Russian Icebreakers and the northern fleet will own the Arctic for decades to come. They look like a pretty solid fortress to me with people, resources, and military tech inside their walls.
I don't see PRICK as having ambitions requiring blue water 'force projection'. It is wiser to protect their region of influence and allow the west to self destruct wasting resources on blue water 'force projection' - which is not even a peer adversary for Yemen. Friends and trading partners in Africa and South America might be nice to have, but I do not see any zeal within PRICK to shed much of their own blood over there.
India is a more important trading partner for Russia at the moment. But, China is stably linked with Pakistan in the strategic sphere no matter what the surface indications are at any particular time. If WWIII broke out, Pakistan might be 'neutral' in the same sense that Spain and Sweden were in WWII. But India would be a western proxy cosplaying as Hindu nationalist.
Militarily, only Russia and China would have enough of a deterrence factor in case of US involvement in Iran. I think the big picture for the US and the West, is to throw in as many wrenches as possible, to hinder/stop BRICS or any other trade organization that will threaten their hegemony.
It isn't hard to hinder when many of the elites of the so called global south, and China and Russia, are still bedazzled by the west and it's consumerism mixed with mammon worship.
Yet Iran is a bulwark against the salafis and al saud etc, they were happy to be in bed with dajjal yesterday now today they have a voice but not for the Palestinians whom they wish gone.
They use Makkah and hajjis to make money and made the pilgrimage a monopoly for themselves but yes if there's a buck in it count on them to join in.
One could call them the Antichrist from a Christian perspective, they grow and fund terrorism etc etc.
China depends on Middle Eastern oil and gas far more than the US or even the EU. Around 75% of Gulf crude oil exports are sent to Asian markets, and all of Iran’s oil exports go to China. It's also questionable how long Iran can function as a country without oil revenues or sufficient fuel for its own power generation and industry—especially given that almost all of its power stations run on gas. Iran’s southern provinces rely on desalinated water for drinking. A regime change operation that targets critical infrastructure would therefore stand a fairly strong chance of success. A focused disruption campaign could achieve regime change goals with far less cost, bloodshed, or political risk than traditional interventions
I agree to an extent (disclosure: I’m Serbian). However, having also lived in the GCC, I know all too well that mere survival in a desert region—under the current city‑planning model, with massive population growth compared to historical levels and already depleted aquifers—is impossible without functioning oil and gas infrastructure. You literally can’t survive. Living in modern housing without air conditioning is already questionable, not to mention without desalinated water. This will pose a massive challenge for Iran’s oil‑rich southern provinces, which are virtually complete deserts. I see that Iran doesnt depend on desalinated water as much as its GCC neighbours but still Iran’s three main crude‑export terminals—Kharg, Lavan and Sirri—sit off the coast of two hyper‑arid provinces: Bushehr and Hormozgan. I see now that the US coalition sucess in Iraq in 2003 was also largely dependant on shutting down elecyticity and water in Basra and Baghdad. "Water and electricity became scarce after most of Basra's electrical infrastructure was destroyed on 21 March.[28] On the 24 March, the International Committee of the Red Cross announced that 60% of Basra's population had been cut off from clean water, and warned of a coming "humanitarian crisis"
Good point. I’m surprised Iran hasn’t yet hit Israel’s own desalination plants. Israel has nine million people, here in summer, some seven million of whom it at least has to pretend to care about, in an arid province, where the main ‘river', the Jordan, is now a pathetic stagnant creek that you could wade across in two strides and barely get your knees wet and the Dead Sea is fast evaporating into a mud-patch. That’ll be the next step up on the mutual escalation ladder, I suppose.
Palestinians also depend on Israeli water supplies so I assume that Iran has to take that into consideration. Additionally Southern Iran climate is incomparably harsher than the Levant
Yes, obviously so. But Israel’s population density is high and it is still pretty arid. It took me seconds just now to find an extensive online article ‘How Desalination Came to da Wescue in Israel’. To quote just two pars:
'Today, Israel gets a whopping 55 percent of its domestic water supply from desalinated seawater and brackish groundwater. Producing 150 million cubic meters each year, Israel’s Sorek desalination plant is the largest in the world! It alone provides 20 percent of the potable water that Israel consumes. In addition the army of 5 large desalination plants along the Mediterranean Sea, close to 30 smaller desalination plants filter brackish groundwater throughout the country, mostly in Negev desert in the south.
To supplement (and even partially replace) the National Water Carrier, the government has begun building a new National Water System. The new system uses pipelines to connect the new desalination plants with consumers, making it possible for such a significant portion of the Israeli population to get its water supply from desalination technology.'
True (excepting Japan, after two atom bombs). Conventional strategic bombing only ever hardens civilian will to resist. It’s only really any use as an attrition strategy preparatory to ground conquest and occupation.
Well, they’re 'da Middul East’s only Demaahcwacy’, after all: the majority of them voted that foul Kahanist junta into power.
In. fairness, a sizeable minority of Israelis loathe Bibi and his smirking gang as much as I detest Starmer & Co.
One does feel some sympathy for those of the Israeli ‘left’, albeit what’s happening to them is nothing compared to what has been meted out to millions of Arabs and Persians for decades by the rogue state of which they are immigrant citizens. As a UK tax-serf myself, I’m hardly in a position to throw stones: by failing to emigrate from my own degenerate, warmongering state, I am to some extent, however unwillingly, complicit in its ongoing crimes against International Law.
That’s it. From 2016-2024, the MSM’s lies became so brazen and ridiculous that even the dumbest rubes and hicks could see it. Meanwhile, independent new media - Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Judge Nap, Douglas Macgregor etc Twitter in general - has established far higher credibility. The western regime MSM is a busted flush.
Does that make any difference to policy? Probably not. They’ll just cover their actions with further layers of nonsensical lies and evasions, which no one will believe: see Starmer’s latest utterances as a case in point.
Well, you know the answers: no and no. Ten million marching would make no difference (unless they sacked Whitehall and Buck House and burned Parliament to the ground). There’s only one democracy in the world, Switzerland, and even that now seems to be fading.
Well Iran can be or probably has been gifted nuclear warheads from their close ally North Korea and Pakistan who has the Muslim bomb. Iran already have the delivery systems that have been demonstrated the capabilities to defeated the Israeli air defenses. Do the Israelis have a delivery system that can defeat Iran's air defenses? Iran is playing a tit for tat game to maintain global sympathy. It won't take many nuclear strikes to totally eliminate Israel it's merely a matter of geographical size when compared.
If anyone believes Kim has not already handed over warheads to Iran is in denial.. Nuclear weapons are basically an eighty year old technology. Issue is North Koreans have tested their warheads in recent times so they possibly work. When was the last time Israel had a nuclear test of the warhead and the delivery systems? Iran would probably need only 5. As the Chinese stated the US be able to destroy them ten times over they only need to be able to destroy the US once, possibly Iran has the same calculation in relation to Israel.
The eye of Sauron is a fictional creation from the "Lord of the Rings" and even in fantasy it was never capable of seeing and knowing all things at all times.
I saw a report that the Govt. of Pakistan said it would nuke anyone who nuked Iran. Reports months ago mentioned that Pakistan would provide nukes to Iran in a war.
I conclude that the details are not specific enough to be certain.
Flip flop relationship. Pakistan is more Saudi oriented, and its military and intelligence have forever been with US. There's a strong Shia-Sunni component in Pakistan as well. For example in case of Syria, most Pak youtubers were anti Iran but when it comes to Israel, they support Iran verbally.
I have heard talk that the initial air successes by Israel was abetted by a cyberattack that disabled Iranian air defenses for hours before being restored. Any information on this possibility?
I've seen the same reports. It seems Iran didn't even require a cyberattack to 'disable' Israel's porous air defenses in its own strikes, as its hypersonics merely bypassed them directly.
Mercouris has proven good sources in high level leakers near Kremlin.
3 weeks before Kursk invasion started he was aware of by the same source.
Internal debate followed between GS and Putin who wanted to avoid it to happen by any means.
GS was for attrition (it worked very well except for hundreds of RU civilians sacrified in the aim of long term victory with attrition), hard to believe but who knows? Very hard decision to be taken by VVP.
I believe it. The czar and his staff basically adopted the same strategy when Napoleon invaded Russia in 1812. They even sacrificed Moscow. But eventually, their war of attrition was successful. Not much remained of Napoleon's Grande Armée when it finally managed to escape from Russia. It all ended in 1814, when the victorious Russian army entered Paris.
I guess that such history lessons are taught at Russian military academies.
This was not a war of attrition—enough with scavenging garbage to decorate one's posts. Throughout Napoleon’s campaign, it was a war of ambushes, marked by three major battles, where Russian success hinged on terrain mastery and adaptation to climatic conditions. The Tsar knew full well Napoleon could never pursue him deep into Russia’s vastness.
What happened to the Duran? I got no emails from them since June 1. Are they still up and active website? or did both Yahoo and Gmail manage to shadow ban them to my accounts? Both of these Chlamydiafornia-based social justice warrior slimeballs, Google and Yahoo, blacklisted it.
Are you getting it from their newsletter (in your email) or from Youtube? I'm thinking they are having a glitch in their newsletter dissemination and are not tech-savvy enough to fix it, or unaware of it. Their "comments" section never worked on the website. No reply to my email so far.
I don't do youtube. I saw some things pre-Maidan in Ukraine, and how all the homemade videos of atrocities were later censored by Google/Youtube. Watching Youtube makes me feel dirty, or like I'm one of the Goolag's little Matrix pods.
YT works, and it is the platform with the most reach still. It is not that hard to avoid being booted out. Problematic, sure but as long as I can use it blocking ads I will.
Good on you. Google's YouTube is a scourge that should be boycotted by everyone that opposes censorship & technocratic tyranny. It sits on the frontline in the Information War being waged on the masses, dominating the market via anti-competitive monopolistic practices via parent company Google.
Mercouris, a self-proclaimed 'expert' without foundation—just for those who settle for scraps and randomness. No basis, as he himself admits. So how can anyone assess the validity of info scavenged from some channel? That’s precisely what he does.
Mercouris is the best, in my experience, along with Simpicius. He is very good at analyzing the diplomatic landscape, with a thorough review and understanding of Western thinking. He has also been very good at seeing through the military fog and keeping his eye on the big picture and how the day-to-day action accords with the trend.
Um, what? Mercouris is very clear about what he knows and what he doesn't know, what is confirmed and what isn't. Which you would know if you actually watched his YouTube videos, which you obviously don't, so you post lies.
He may appear to be opinionated, and a shade wishful, but he's not going to reveal his sources else the basis for the credibility of his show would disappear.
This is nonsense. He is a trained lawyer and uses that background to construct fairly complex arguments based on various sources. As good or better than someone trained in history or political science.
Why do people say that? What other kind of lawyer is there?
While I like Mercouris, I can’t see the relevance of Mercouris’ background as a barrister. 'Sir’ Keir Shitbag is also a barrister, indeed a former Director of Public Persecutions, yet his ability 'to construct fairly complex arguments based on various sources' is on a par with that of last week's leftover vegetable soup. Unless, of course, the ‘arguments’ concerned are a load of wildly implausible nonsense based on absurd and obvious bare-faced lies, in which case that clammy mockery of a farce of a sham of two travesties of a mockery of a human slug of a Prime Minister is a genius.
Mercouris lacks the formal credentials of other comparable commentators, but he does seem very well informed. He seems decent and reasonable, what he says stacks up, and so far I’ve found him worth listening to.
Mercouris said himself, in yesterday's show, that he doesn't have access to any leakers near the Kremlin. He pointed out clearly regarding Israel's theorized involvement in Ukraine's "Spider Web" that he was only repeating speculation in Russian media, though one guy had written it to him in advance, but he was not much of an insider.
If Mossad/Israel trained them, not surprising the techniques are the same. If the Israelis were stupid enough to be hands on and leave solid evidence, they are past being "frenemies" and well into "reap the whirlwind".
Alex Gibney is a well known veteran director/ producer with a strong reputation. Yet for some reason, God knows why, it seems to have struggled to find distribution either in the US or Europe. One might almost imagine that the people who control the western Corporate Media don’t want anyone to see it.
Israel's jet fighters can't carry enough fuel to make a round trip from Israel to Iran and back. They must be refueled inflight. At least twice -- once on the way in, and once on the way back.
Israel's attacks upon Iran last October happened with "200 Israeli jet fighters" and US aerial tankers orbiting safely outside the Iranian border and Iranian air defenses. These defenses are all Russian supplied 300s and 400s -- top of the line, state of the art systems, the best in the world.
Even last night's attacks by Israel on Iran had Israel orbiting just outside of Iran's borders with US aerial tankers and launching Israeli ordinance from safely outside Iranian air defenses.
It's just physics.
The locality of the damages Israel inflicted upon Iranian targets indicates the use of drones and UAVs. I don't think Israel is ready to test Russian supplied air defenses in Iran.
You make really good points! From everything I have read and researched and wheedled out of people who might know, Russian S300s and better yet, S400 missile defense systems are the best in the world for what they are designed for: Better than anything that the West has sent to Ukraine, for example. (The Iron Dome is not designed to intercept ballistic missiles, and THAAD is for high altitude maybe ICBMs and is very expensive so not comparable to S400s.)
You are correct, that Israel's F-35s (or other?) jet fighters cannot make a round-trip bombing run all the way to Iran and back without refueling in air at least once. I saw videos of that during the past few days. The tanker planes didn't dare enter Iranian air space but rather, were over other countries' airspace.
But what is Israel's objective exactly? They lack the ability to penetrate any Iranian uranium enrichment/nuclear bomb development facilities that are located deep within natural geological structures, e.g. solid rock mountains not man-made piles of earth. 2000 pound bombs can't penetrate hundreds of meters deep. Bunker busters (some of them, I think, that the US has) can go 300 meters deep but an F-35 can't carry a 5000 pound bomb! The US is not going to get involved, because the public doesn't want that (most don't want our involvement with Ukraine to continue either, let alone a 2nd involvement far away). Also, China gets a lot of its oil from Iran, so they won't be thrilled with any of this.
I don't think Israel's objective is regime change. Israel is not a major geopolitical power despite what everyone says, i.e. that the US is Israel's vassal state lol! Most or all of the Arab Muslim countries in the Middle-East and North Africa aren't thrilled with the potential of a nuclear Iran but aren't likely or able to do anything about it. Putin issued a statement that he didn't encourage Iran to develop nuclear missiles over the weekend. Iran has a very capable, intelligent, Muslim but not Arab populace of about 75 million people plus maybe 12 million Kurds and a few others. So about 90 million people. That's a lot! Tehran is probably like a lot of western cities: Sophisticated elites who aren't happy with traditional leadership. I don't know whether the rest of Iran feels similarly. Sanctions and isolation and sponsoring terrorist proxies because of ideology hasn't exactly endeared petrostates to the rest of the world, but Iran is one of the only ones remaining.
Anyway, if Israel knows it can't take out uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb development facilities, what is it doing? I know that Hamas and Hezbollah were funded by Iran mostly. Regardless, even if all 3 were gone, there are still 2 million Palestinians in Gaza and nothing will change that. I know this sounds very cold-blooded, what I wrote, but I am trying to boil things down to facts. And am thinking aloud... which is kind of rude in the comments. Sorry.
That sure seems likely and military possibly infiltrated also and now it seems the hardliners were killed immediately filled by soft liner western leaning and or K family aligned. Yet an almost immediate response was despatched with good results but why not more directed at Dimona and aircraft support buildings and fuel. Time for the for to clear and see if this is a true strike or please let's acquiesce as Pezeshkian style.
Pezeshkian is a cia or mossad asset ...remember the copter crash (terror attack). He is leader of the Bazar lobby who simply wants to do business again with carpets buyers (real). They are very strong in the capital and in Ispahan but nowhere else.
G'day Ann, well he certainly is a softliner willing to negotiate and be duped or played by the West. I prefer to read but do you recommend Prof Marandi which seems only available as a talking head?
Marandi said about this guy -the new president - because he was asked, that the new president is not a politician but a doctor and so he is not ' a hardliner military guy ' but he was voted in by the Iranian people because of the economy I think which is suffering from so many sanctions for so long. Now BRICS is giving countries another viewpoint but long before BRICS Iran was under the heaviest sanctions of all. Russia has more now - but before Russian sanctions got so bad, my understanding is that even Russia didn't do business with Iran becasue of sanctions. Like what happened to Syria -the so called cesaer sanctions or shall we say Samson sanctions. And Iran's economy is doing better - I think the people are happy - and the new president - complicated name to spell - has supported the Resistance fully. They got rid of Zarif which many people didn't like because he was fully educated in the west ( I think ) but in reality even Zarif didn't do anything to hurt Iran for the zionists. I think we in the west should look at our own failures as far as electing straight politicians and not always be so judgemental of Iran. I think its a cool government and even though many bad talk Saker - I learned everything from Saker, and he liked the way the Iranian government was set up- with the religious figure being in charge of the military. Iran is a noble country.
Any inference that the Iranian missiles were targeted at military sites is pure fabrication. They launch and hope that as many people are killed as possible.
What's the basis for your thoughts in your comment Gabor, are the missiles ungided slingshot pebbles and where is the info to suggest it is a pure terrorist attack. Obviously scaring the population helps unsettle bibi the baby killer but as a premeditated thing I doubt it but look forward to your supporting evidence.
There is zero proof of hitting any military targets. The closest hit to anything military was the Defense building in Tel Aviv, which they missed by about half kilometer.
why are all of Israels strategic military sites embedded in civilian areas. The list of successful Iranian strikes is already out. Its strange you think you can fool anybody here.
So you are directly contradicting your own claims. A hit within 500m of "the Defense building in Tel Aviv" at a range of what?~1000km is not "launch and hope that as many people are killed as possible".
Look at those videos of Tel Aviv, how close do you estimate are those impact blasts to the base of the cluster of smoke trails from the upwards firing interceptor missiles?
That is a targeted hit on a military installation in an urban area. Which also puts an interesting spin on any statement that Hamas or Hezbollah are using their people as human shields by putting military installations in urban areas.
Same could be said about many of RF supposed huge attacks but the munitions are guided to hit less than premium targets rather than miss, nothing is as it seems Gabor. Alliance formed in the background or merging agendas of the so called opposing lead players.
Iran took out the THAAD battery that was supposed to protect the defense HQ - much more important than the building itself.
'Zero proof' is what one expects from an apartheid police state with a unified, compliant population - over 80% support for the genocide and over 90% uptake for the Clot Shot. So of course there's 'zero proof.' There's always 'zero proof'. There's 'zero proof' of anything bad happening in N Korea, too.
We're supposed to believe that Iran deliberately wastes ammunition on civilian targets even as Israel goes after their missile launchers. 'Oy vey! Those crazy Muslims, always with the death wishes and suicide!'
We get served this same smorgasbord of bullshit every time somebody resists the anglo-zionist regime-change machine.
Good going: You've convinced every patriotic Iranian (and lots of other folks besides) that Iran needs nuclear weapons just to ensure its own survival. The ayatollah had better rethink his fatwa against nukes, otherwise he may wind up being sodomized with a bayonet like Qaddafi.
There is lots of proof in the form of videos showing the attacks and pictures showing the destruction. You're not a good liar, Gabor. Bibi will be disappointed.
Same for Russia...I do expect a new major FF in RU soon, pure MI6 strategy (terror).
Tonight we had in Ukraine in Kramenchuk, a multiple missiles + geran extremely long attack with all types of missiles used including khinzal, very strange so many missiles on one target only? Taurus cache maybe?
Oil ref was totally destroyed burning for hours (still is, no power).
I haven't a clue, but he does seem very averse these days to spending much time in Ukraine and sleeping in his own bed. A never ending World tour is what we see. Iirc didn't he recently visit Albania ? I now wonder what on Earth that was about, to me, it seemed odd at the time, but am now curious whether the MeK were involved.
I laughed, as it's so true in general. But it seems there's more going on in Albania these days:
"The "Iranians" would likely be the communist MeK terrorists, who the U.S. is housing in Albania. The Mujahedin-e Khalq is run like the cult, when Hussein housed them in an army base the women and children were forbidden from leaving. They supported Iraq's invasion of Iran with U.S. weapons and funding, and they interrogated war prisoners while torturing them. The prisoners were buried alive.
They have killed Iranian bureaucrats and police, often with car bombs, and tried to kill the ayatollah, whose left arm is withered from a bomb attack. Israel has used them to murder Iranian nuclear scientists and technicians.
Online they pose as ordinary Iranians, expressing support for the U.S. sanctions. Lots of sock puppet accounts. Members of the Washington regime can then retweet them, saying, "Look, here are Iranians writing in Farsi and agreeing with us!"
I know many Iranians here in Western Europe, and none of the women wear veils, that perennial topic that is used against Iran. It doesn't matter which side of Iran's politics they are on. None of them would ever support the communist MeK, or Israel. (The only ones who'd do that are the communists who fled the conservative revolution long ago, who are in separate social groups from the other Iranians.)"
All nations, not aligned with the West, have to advise their intelligence services to start thinking like terrorists just to come close to the devilish thinking of Mossad, MI6 and CIA.
I don't buyy the internal drone starting from the the boxes shown in that light truck. There is no phisical explanation how to start them from this narrow boxes
In Russia it was Russians working for Ukies, in Iran they were Iranians working for Mossad. Iran said they arrested 16 for Mossad affiliates. There's a photo of the boxed containers used for drones same as those found in Russia and pick-up trucks that the Iranians said were used to bring the drones to the targets. Go read Telegram.
The "Iranians" would likely be the communist MeK terrorists, who the U.S. is housing in Albania. The Mujahedin-e Khalq is run like the cult, when Hussein housed them in an army base the women and children were forbidden from leaving. They supported Iraq's invasion of Iran with U.S. weapons and funding, and they interrogated war prisoners while torturing them. The prisoners were buried alive.
They have killed Iranian bureaucrats and police, often with car bombs, and tried to kill the ayatollah, whose left arm is withered from a bomb attack. Israel has used them to murder Iranian nuclear scientists and technicians.
Online they pose as ordinary Iranians, expressing support for the U.S. sanctions. Lots of sock puppet accounts. Members of the Washington regime can then retweet them, saying, "Look, here are Iranians writing in Farsi and agreeing with us!"
I know many Iranians here in Western Europe, and none of the women wear veils, that perennial topic that is used against Iran. It doesn't matter which side of Iran's politics they are on. None of them would ever support the communist MeK, or Israel. (The only ones who'd do that are the communists who fled the conservative revolution long ago, who are in separate social groups from the other Iranians.)
Vasilios, I read information about a cyberattack that disabled Iranian air defenses early June 13, in Larry C. Johnson's Sonar 21 post June 14 eve.:
"Israel, with help from the West, hit Iran with a cyberattack early Friday morning (Tehran time) that disabled Iran’s air-defense system. Israel and the West anticipated this would disable Iran’s ability to track and attack inbound missiles for several days. According to Pepe Escobar, Iranian technicians got the system up and running in TEN hours." (emphasis mine--just 10 hours!)
Now~wouldn't we like to know which West country or countries gave Israel the help that resulted in the murders of the leaders, scientists, and their families?
People like to believe any plausible reasoning that makes Iran look incapable. What about the possibility that Iran allowed Israel to strike first, and this was needed to get the ball rolling.
Yes that certainly should be considered with the softliner leader Pezeshkian who think negotiations 1st 2nd and 3rd but only after devastating (sic) strike will he act, cui bono?
Greek hidey-hole. In the light of the recent increased seismicity in the Aegean region it would certainly be something to see him taken out by an Earthquake in some kind of divine retribution. Oh well...dream on ! My guess he's at one of the SBTs on Cyprus.
I always wonder why we never hear about parliament buildings being hit. I guess it's some quiet agreement worldwide, that we don't hit you and you don't hit us. Aside from the MPs, the buildings contain a lot of history that they don't want to see destroyed.
Quite. In any war situation, obliterating the symbolic talking shop that is the Palace of Westminster would have about as much practical effect as smashing the Tate Modern or the Copper Box Arena.
That said, flattening the Knesset might do a lot to cheer the Iranian population (though if the Iranians did, the Israeli state and western MSM would be near-guaranteed to suppress or minimise the fact.)
Oh, no doubt: ‘It’s a diwect attack on demahcwacy!!’
Iran, so far as I can see, is at least as much a democracy as the UK.
Supreme Leader is head of the Armed Forces? Yes in Iran and UK.
Supreme Leader is head of the national Church? Iran and UK alike.
Frock-wearing established clergy embedded in constitution, with a hands-on role in lawmaking? UK, and Iran too.
Supreme Leader formally unaccountable to and irremovable either by Parliament or voters? No difference there.
Women in headscarves a routine daily sight? Remarkably similar there too.
Elections make negligible difference to anything, no matter how frustrated and poor voters become? UK and Iran, same-same.
Armed with nuclear weapons, with a shadowy, powerful, hardline faction, permanently embedded in government, dedicated to destabilising the Middle East through subversion, proxy forces and terror tactics? Aha! That’s the distinction. That one's just the UK.
Seems to me that Iran, if it survives then it has every incentive to pursue a nuclear weapons programme and fast. If that is the case then Israel and also the USA cannot let Iran survive. So is this a war to the finish? And if the Neo-Cons in DC think this way then it is almost a certainty the the USA will enter into the war. On almost every occassion since Trump was elected he has demonstrated in foreign policy terms the deft touch of a drunken bull in a china shop, and pursued a neo-con policy - despite early promise. Lots of words as usual from Trump - but he is either pursuing a neo-con policy or has simply lost control of that policy.
There is no need, turnkey devices should be easy to procure from Pakistan and/or North Korea. In fact, they might already have been acquired, with use restricted to MAD only, not first strike.
true, but Israel has deep pockets that run across the med and Atlantic. But in the big scheme, this is not MAD in the traditional sense. Only a few States can play that game.
but yes, i stand corrected. proxies i suppose could also be set up with the MAD Dr. Strangelove decision tree theoretically, But would the big dogs and doggettes really go for that?
It doesn't matter. India and Pakistan have MAD. If one of them shoots the other will too, so they haven't. If this fails and India and Pakistan nuke one another, no unfortunate survivors in either country will care what the rest of the world does after that - their world has already ended.
As Victor said, the MAD does not have to be worldwide, just enough to deter Israel from a nuclear strike on Iran. Iran has demonstrated ability to strike Israel anywhere they want with hypersonic missiles, which are capable to bearing nuclear devices. The statehood of Israel could probably be ended utterly within minutes with a small handful of medium yield devices.
Indeed, it would not surprise me at all if Trump were to decide to enter the fray and Putin then arranged for nuclear warheads to be delivered to Iran for deterrence purposes. In that case, we might well see both the US and israel back off.
Yes - if it worked. But we’re in the dangerous territory of high-stakes Game Theory here, and the Israeli-USSA tactic, with Russia, China, Iran, everyone, has been to play the role of the dangerous fanatic lunatic that has to be appeased and doesn't give a damn about escalation, even if it destroys the world. That’s hard for sane, responsible statesmen in Russia, Iran, China etc to deal with - particularly since the Israel-USSA politico-insecurity class (and their pathetic Eurovassals) have been playing that game so long, it has taken over their psyche. The only state that ‘gets it’, ISTM, is North Korea, which has made a point of building an Independent Nuclear Deterrent and wildly screeching about its willingness to use it, thus securing its sovereignty and stability and ensuring that the USSA leaves it well alone. Sadly, you simply cannot be reasonable with these people. They are thugs, bullies, mafiosi, and frequent, credible and scary threats of serious violence really are the only language they can understand. Anything else, they take for weakness and an open invitation to existential subversion and aggression.
G'day Victor, I feel you are endowing VVP and the shadow power in RFed with something not there, they want harmony and resumption of business not securing national stability and security through strength of actions, evidenced by the snails pace attritional warfare at a large cost in lives for a hoped for result tomorrow against an immoral evil empire with no boundaries.
That sits so far outside the legalistic frameworks that the Russians et al adhere to, I wouldn't hold your breath. Many here may perhaps forget that in the East, things are done differently. Thankfully!
I don't think he would, as the U.S. couldn't even achieve air superiority in the attack on Yemen. In the end they had to settle for Yemen promising not to hit the US Navy - which Yemen wasn't doing until the Navy attacked them. The peace agreement didn't ban Yemen from attacking shipping going to Israel, so it was a U.S. defeat.
And Yemen's air defences, as Simplicius says, are probably from Iran. So imagine what Iran could do. The U.S. can do damage but they can't defeat Iran with attacks from the Navy, and Trump knows this.
The U.S. doesn't have Saudi or UAE backing either. And the neocon plan was to use Afghanistan and Iraq as bases for the war against Iran. That didn't work out.
Indeed, Israel can't defeat Iran and Iran could fire nukes at some point in the future, if they had to. But let's remember, Netanyahu is not thinking about the future. He is thinking about his immediate political survival.
As soon as he is out of office he will be prosecuted for his involvement in taking bribes from a Jewish billionaire in the U.S. So he has to keep his coalition together, and he is pleasing them with a war while the economy is tanking.
If nukes were to be used only as MAD measure then they lost all the value as a deterrent - the West seems to believe to bypass the problem by making the gov. go away, decapitating the leadership etc. till there is nobody to authorize the strike.
That is a problem with the nukes - if you do not use them the opponents stop fearing them. Then there is also another issue - if the country is under attack by the terrorist means and there is neither a declaration of war nor a clear identification of the opponent - what do you strike at? This is a q. valid for Russia and Iran or whoever acquires the nukes. Just nuke London? Or would that be Berlin? I suppose London would do but the population there has precious little to do with the original Brits anyway???
You bring up a good point. It will be interesting to see Russia's response both publicly and be4hind the scenes in support of Iran should Trump make the wrong decision as described by Simp.
Unfortunately Russia is too entangled with Israel. Not sure why because Israel is always acting against Russia with US and most Russians in Israel have their loyalty to the genocidal state over Russia.
Russians in israel are not Russians and never really were. They are jews and always owed their primary allegiance to israel as evidenced by their move to and participation in the genocidal occupying regime.
Does not have to be nukes. Why not fly in more EW systems and AD into Tehran? Would Israel start shooting at Russian supply planes?
No different then when the west dumped stuff into Ukraine. Putin failing to do this, might convince me he will do nothing to upset his local Jewish voter base.
That Pact with Iran that Russia signed will be useless as Israel is not going to stop bombing Iran unless planes start going down. What good is a pact with Iran if their government fails and you do nothing Vlad?
Trump always tries to please all sides in foreign policy. Ditching election promises to please the neocons and Jew-dominated media, while holding back just a little. Like how he wouldn't attack Iran when ships were hit in the Persian Gulf. (Mysteriously, a Japanese ship with a Russian crew was hit "by Iran" just when a Japanese minister was visiting Iran.)
At that time he condemned Iran for what were obviously Israeli or US operations, but he wouldn't sink his chances of re-election by attacking, as the Iranians would mine the Strait of Hormuz shut, blocking all oil trade.
That infuriated the Zionist Jew Matt Drudge, and that is when he broke with Trump. (I know, I had his site bookmarked back then.) But no Trump supporters like to mention that.
aDoozy - how do you figure Israel started the war? Lol.
This war started with the Yom Kippur raid of 10/7/23. Iran has now lost its “Ring of Fire” and now it’s losing Iran.
Background : Iran was for all time and through the Shah an ally of Israel. They’re Persians you know.
When Khomeini came to power surrounded by his Iron Guard of Lebanese Shia Militia sometimes known as the Army of God, then and only then did the Iran vs Israel hate machine start.
To catch up, Iran has been the Chief sponsor of Hizbollah from the start, indeed they were critical to the revolution in Iran, but more importantly the sponsor for HAMAS since the Arabs washed their hands of them in 2014.
(Because HAMAS sucks at war or peace).
Surprise attack =Aggression.
HAMAS launched a raid on Yom Kippur, 2023 that Iran certainly had to agree to… but HAMAS made a fatal mistake.
HAMAS bought The Palestinians… who live streamed who and what they are (the dregs of the Muslim world discarded into Slumlord tenements, yes with Jewish landlords). Iran made the same mistake so many others made, certainly including Lebanon- it included Palestinians.
When the raid’s camp followers showed the world what they are, Iran suddenly found itself the Strategic Victim of HAMAS’s tactical success. Decades of work in Lebanon, Syria, are destroyed. Yemen rocket harassed and now the Houthi have lost whatever they could have built or eaten for that matter and they’re out of missiles.
MOSSAD has opened a gift shop in Tehran and NETFLIX is negotiating the next season of FAUDA to be filmed in Iran…
It’s good to know the Kikes took over Iran in 1979 to set up a 47 year struggle against themselves…. BTW since you’re racist (Kikes) what’s your problem with apartheid? Seriously?
How do you determine that? Iran, by any metric, has achieved what many states would not dare. What is your view of 'winning'? Perhaps the winning is standing up to aggression with truth, honour, and dignity. That is all we can do. Read the Bhagavad Gita.
Lol 😝 i’m not Hindu, you read it. The Iranians WERE the aggressors, they lost Lebanon and Syria and now they’re losing Iran.
As for the Honorable Iranians, may they rest in peace. The Living Iranians by virtue of being alive; we’ve already established what they are, now they’re negotiating the price.
The Israelis bought enough Iranians to run amok over and in Iran, the honest Iranians are dead - like Hizbollah before them - and return fire is absolutely commendable but not effective.
Getting a few shots off that killed a few people in an Israeli apartment isn’t the same as most of the government dead, the Israeli Air Force’s main problem over Tehran being air traffic control, and ground operatives are running around Iran essentially unimpeded .
At this rate Fiddler on The Roof will open in Tehran Theater and if some hecklers outside throw some eggs , they’ll be people cheering them on … from the safe distance of the Internet.
When I believe in a war I’ll go and did go as fast as practicable. That’s keeping one’s word (honor). If the commenters are so concerned then GO, you can take a copy of Bhagdvad Gita along for down time reading.
Neither you nor the book should expect to return .
🕉️ Indeed, expectation is a fool's game... Your writing style and stream of consciousness muddle of a comment reminds me of a famous bumper sticker that reads - 'Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here.'
Israel’s amoral and shameless wars of aggression and the ongoing genocide of Palestinians are the judaic values in action. The judaic education at large is deeply flawed and generates the inordinate numbers of vicious liars and criminals of all sorts.
It is obvious for all intelligent and decent persons that zionism is a criminal cult that must be banned worldwide
Looks like you're just bursting with brains - can't compile same thought in one post? Why don't you actually read and go name by name. Including digging into Lenin's roots. Beggars have no servants. I'm not going to do your work for you, buddy.
The Bolshevik leadership contained many of Jewish descent. So what big deal. They were all communists who all paid very heavy prices for their dedication to the cause of overthrowing capitalism and landlordism in Russia.
They sure did: all those waves of Purges, each extinguishing many of the perpetrators of the previous one. Just look at the career of Stalin’s Internal Affairs Commissar Genrikh Yagoda (Jewish), who worked hand-in-hand with Gulag boss Naftaly Frenkel (coincidentally, also Jewish) to build the Baltic-White Sea Canal, exterminating some 20,000 penal labourers in the process; who was the enthusiastic executor of the Ukrainian Holodomor, executing or starving to death 4-5 millions Ukrainians; who had Old Bolshevists Lev Kamenev and Grigory Zinoviev (Jewish, and, er, Jewish) tortured, show tried and executed; and then, in 1937, was himself arrested on a marvellously baroque array of charges, tortured, tried in the 'Trial of the 21’, convicted and subjected to a particularly unpleasant execution, being forced to sit in a chair and watch all his fellow defendants (including Lev Levin and former Party figures Izaak Zelensky and Arkady Rosengoltz) being shot in the head one by one; then getting a bonus pre-death beating on his successor Yezhov’s orders, from Yezhov’s deputy Izrail Dagin (take a wild guess); before finally getting a bullet in the head. Dagin was then condemned to death and executed in 1940.
And of course there was the notorious Lev Davidovich Bronstein a.k.a. Trotsky, People’s Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs, who finally fled to Mexico but still got an icepick in the skull (made his ears burn): though frankly, after his mass murder and terror tactics during the Civil War, the Red Terror that followed the assassination of Leningrad Cheka boss Moisei Uritsky and the crushing of the Kronstadt Rebellion, it’s hard to imagine who could have deserved it more.
The Jewish poet Osip Mandelstam, who unwisely composed a poem mocking ’Stalin the peasant-slayer’ and his thick fingers and gleaming boot-tops was arrested, on a warrant signed by People’s Deputy Commissar for Internal Affairs Yakov Saulovich Agranov, also Jewish, and, naturally, tortured, tried and executed. Agranov himself was then himself arrested, on Yezhov’s orders, and shot as an 'enemy of the people’ in 1938.
Then you’ve the 'Night of the Murdered Poets' in 1952 and the 'Doctors’ Plot’ of 1953 (though these unfortunate people were by no means Communist Party goons as Yagoda, Uritsky, Trotsky et al had been).
Not every Bolshevist and NKVD officer was Jewish, of course; but a strikingly heavy proportion of them were. (Josef Dugashvili, a.k.a. Stalin, was a Georgian.) These facts didn’t escape Solzhenitsyn, a junior Red Army junior officer who suffered for years in the gulag: ‘It was not Russians who did this to us.’ Putin is also well aware of it. Most of the post-1989 oligarchs - from Abramovich to Berezovsky to Khodorkovsky to Vekselberg - are/ were also Jewish too, c/w dual-citizen Israeli passports, though again, the mortality rate has been high.
The association of Jews and Bolshevism in Russia is hardly surprising, of course: the old Tsarist system held Jews down and periodically pogrommed them, which can hardly have been pleasant, leading to much westward emigration. Jews had no stake in Tsarist Russia’s continued existence and every reason to want it gone. The old Austro-Hungarian Empire, by contrast was far more favourable to them: see The Radetzky March by Joseph Roth, one of the finest European novels of the 20th century.
A fantastic comment. Soviet Russia is a fable the US would do well to look to. God willing we avoid the same fate in this country… perhaps we can skip the mass murder of millions at the hands of the Jews and go straight to Christian nationalism.
Considering the history of Jewish pogroms under the Czar's and Jewish insulation from the Orthodox Christian trappings of the state, is it any wonder that the Russian Jewish population should be over represented in the revolutionary ranks? Indeed, it would be surprising if they were not so represented.
Yes - actually that’s a point I make myself in the post above. Unfortunately the Bolshevist regime in which they were so heavily represented became quite mind-bogglingly murderous, like the Terror of the French Jacobins, but on an even greater scale and lasting far longer. Still, there certainly doesn't seem to have been any ethnic favouritism: the likes of Yagoda were just as happy to arrest, torture and execute fellow Jews as they were Armenians, Russians, Azeris, Ukrainians or Uzbeks.
Several historians contend - with significant evidence, including from Kruschev - that Stalin (following the trumping up of the Doctors Plot) was planning a full-scale deportation of Soviet Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Siberia, but the old bastard died of a stroke before he could go through with it.
Yes, unfortunate indeed. But I've always wondered if "the old bastard" would have had anywhere near the political success he did were it not for the pressures (military, economic and political) the capitalist West exerted on the fledgling Soviet state. To the extent those foreign pressures had a hand in generating the paranoia of the Soviet state, then the collective West can be said to have been responsible for the excesses of Stalin's bloody rule. It's anybody's guess how things would have turned out had the West not acted toward the Russian Soviet state in such a hostile manner.
Does this sound familiar? - "It was largely Klier’s work in the late 1980s which began to truly shed light on the origins of Russian-Jewish relations prior to 1914. Klier, born into a Catholic family in Kansas, “rejected what might be called the Fiddler on the Roof pieties and simplifications. In book after book, he emphasised that what the tsars and their ministers wanted, above all else, was for the Jewish settlements to be orderly and productive.” Klier further stressed that the much-maligned Pale of Settlement was simply the only response that the Russian administration could come up with, faced as they were with the “baffling question” of how to deal with the “fanaticism of ultra-Orthodox Jewry” which was thoroughly “unassimilable to official purposes." https://www.unz.com/article/myth-and-the-russian-pogroms/
I can only speak for the small "community" of Americans who I live with (around) and speak to about US foreign policy. 10 years ago I was just about the only person who held a negative view about the relationship with the Israeli psychopaths. Now it is almost 100% of us who acknowledge that the US citizen gets 0 benefit from Israel. So it is a small sample but I feel it is happening across America BUT the media is in an Israeli chokehold
I too mentioned the jew problem to an older lady who works in the bread department of Whole Foods and she said i agree and my son keeps telling me the same. anecdotal but great....
Zionism is not a solely Jewish movement. Its origin, in fact, lies with adherents of the Christian faith living in the U.S. and Britain, links it retains to this day. Zionism is an evil, political cult with both Christian and Jewish roots, which should be banned for its violent, racist extremism.
Got to remember though that him calling somebody fashist must have been a positive connotation. Not a condemnation. And I remember under him some Zionist Jewish fighters got trained. Don't remember the intended context anymore.
Anyway since then I wonder of the composition of the brutal murderous and rapist Zionist forces that did the nakba and various heinous surprise attack crimes against Palestinians. Doesn't computer that they were random normies.
Well, basically that’s what they are. Jabotinsky’s Beitar movement, a formative influence on Israel, self-consciously modelled itself on the Blackshirts.
"Betar US is a branch of Betar, a Zionist youth movement founded in 1923 by Ze’ev Jabotinsky, who promoted the idea of strong Jewish militarism and territorial expansion. The group has branches across the world...
Thank you Anna, 3 branches of my family are Ashkenazi Jew, plus the Christian side are unfortunately Zionist-Judaic Education Indoctrinated, never questioning the fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') amnesic Oligarchy which commands & controls western colonial empire fake democracy societies. "Permit me to issue the currency of a nation & I care not who makes its laws", attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1744-1812.
BABYLON (5000 BC) & PHOENICIAN EMPIRE ORIGINS OF OLIGARCH HEGEMONIC WEALTH For the past 7000 years, 'exogenous' (L 'other-generated') Oligarchy since Babylon-Mesopotamia (5000 BC) & Phoenician Empire (aka Kingdom of Israel & City-states of Tyr, Sidon, Byblos & Beirut) from 4000 - 0 BC have terrorized, invaded, pillaged, genocided & destroyed the once productive, peaceful indigenous Amazigh of North Africa & all indigenous peoples on every shore of the Mediterranean & Black Seas. The Torah, Old Testament, Talmud are propaganda tools for subjugating captured peoples under their control. The immense fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') power of Oligarchy stems from this destruction & imposition of fake wealth.
FOLLOW THE MONEY The US Federal-Reserve, Bank-of-England & Bank-of-International-Settlements have hidden triangulated minority shareholders across all three, which gives these individuals the power to issue all western colonial moneys as forgivable loans to friends, family & colleague mega-failing-projects such as Nuclear, mRNA, Pesticides, etc.
OLIGARCH FAKE MONEY CONTROL WAR & DESERTIFICATION 1) 5000 BC Babylon-Mesopotamia. Oligarchy by perverting 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'MEMORY') on the String-Shell (Cowrie-shell) Time-based equivalency accounting Value system unit used worldwide (eg. Wampum on Turtle-Island /N. America, Quipu in S. America, Cowrie in once 'indigenous' Celtic-Slavic Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands') takes AMNESIC control of lush 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') 10s of 1000s of years. ACCOUNT for collective contributions, buying, selling & co-investment. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy
Sustainable Polyculture Orchard Babylon people & region are lush with flowing rivers & distributed, decentralized power among every person, family & community. 'ECONOMY' (Greek 'oikos' = 'home' + 'namein' = 'care-&-nurture'). Cowrie records, registers, celebrates, compensates & empowers the Domestic (mostly women), Industrial & Commercial (mostly men) contributions over every person & Production-Society-Guild specialized 'companies' (L 'com' = 'together' + 'pan' = 'bread'). Participatory Accounting on the String-shell integrates a) 'Capital' (L 'cap' = 'head' = 'collective-intelligence' from contribution, experience, expertise & decision-making-acumen). b) Currency ('flow' as in recognition & empowerment from diverse stakeholders), c) 'Condolence' = 'social-security' for all conditions, d) Collegial 'education' (L. 'educare' = 'to-lead-forth-from-within') Credit, e) time-math-management Communication, f) professional Costume for identification of essential goods & service expertise & more. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy/participatory-accounting
Oligarch Amnesic ignorant, centralized command, control, conflict, bad management, leads to war & biosphere destruction into desert.
POLYCULTURE ORCHARD food trees are over 100 times more productive of food, materials, energy & water-cycle, than 2-D 'Agriculture' (L. 'ager' = 'field'). SYLVALIZATION (Latin 'sylva' = 'tree'). a) As empires spread, hungry for the hardwood Oak for weapons of war, forts, arms, ships etc. the main productivity loss is the indigenous, carefully cultivated 3-D POLYCULTURE ORCHARDs of all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' ancestors, which because of: a) Polyculture's 92-98% Photosynthesis compared with 2-D 'agriculture' 2 - 8% photosynthesis. Agriculture’s all settlers & 1st Nations had left to 'farm' (French 'ferme' = 'contract of servitude by the peasant imposed by the armed aristocrat') b) Deep Polyculture roots descending many 10s of metres into the substrate mining minerals, pumping water, developing extensive nutrient colonies etc. being 100 times = 10,000% more productivity than agriculture. Actually, this calculation is very conservative. In my experience
with both Polyculture & Agriculture such as a 50 square meter (7 by 7 metres) area under the pre-colonial average 100 year old Oak tree produced some 3 tonnes (3000 kg) of nuts/year with little labour except bring wastes to feed the tree. The same 50 sq. M of Wheat, Barley, Oats or Rye will produce only 3 kgs of grains requiring intensive mechanical ploughing, seeding, weeding, fertilizing, fencing & irrigation or drainage preparation.
c) Polyculture's nearly complete ~95% photosynthesis of solar energy into food, materials, energy & water-cycle, creates an energy vacuum which drives warm moist ocean winds inland. 60% of Moisture transfer from ocean to continent is through condensation of these winds upon quadrillions of square kilometres of fractal leaf & bark surface. Only 40% of moisture transfers as rain-snowfall. 2-D Agriculture only photosynthesizes 2-8% of solar energy, creating High-pressure airs which push wind from continent towards the sea, creating permanent desert. Phoenicia destroys North Africa's Amazigh, Kabili, Imazighen 'indigenous' stewarded Polyculture Orchards into the massive Sahara desert. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/b-ecological-design/1-indigenous-welcome-orchard-food-production-efficiencies
BLACK ACADEMICS ON JEWISH CAPITALISM & WEALTH BASED IN SLAVERY OVER 6 MILLENNIA SINCE KEY ROLE IN PHOENICIAN COLONIAL CONQUEST. 13 Sugar Jewish Plantation Colonies, Sephardic, Ashkenazi Jews as core of Slave Trade Christopher Columbus (Hebrew journals) as Morano Portuguese Jew starts Slave Trade, in 1498 5 ship expedition brought 600 Indians to Spain as slaves, previously as slave trader, Gold dealer in Africa Ghana, Gold Coast, Queen Isabella’s 3 Court Jewish Financiers Luis de Santangel, Abraham Zacuto, Don Isaac Abravanel. Curacao, Surinam Jodensavanne Zionist (Jew village Sugar Trade) Jan Pieterszoon Coen Chief Shareholder of the Dutch East & West Indian Companies centred in Netherlands, Oliver Cromwell & Menasseh Ben Israel Financier /c Dr Leonard Jeffries (NY City College) 100 million African Slaves stolen, Dr Tony Martin, Dr Aviva Ben-Ur, Stanley Mirviz, Cary Silverstein, Minister Louis Farrakhan (Jews Selling Blacks), Khallid Muhammad, Nation of Islam, Truth Terrorist 600 million Blacks slaved Over 6000 years compared /c supposed 6 million Jews over 10 years, Reparations, Lehman Brothers, 75% of Jews were Slave Owners & prominent in Slave Trade Rothschild (Mississippi Cotton Trade to English mills) Secret Relationship between Blacks & jews Vol 1&2 by Rabbi Jacob Levin published by Nation of Islam, Rabbi Historian Dr Bertram W. Korn (75% of Slave Owners were Jews), Dr Abraham J. Peck, John Henrik Clarke, Jewish Academic Mafia, Dr. Harold Brackman 1600’s Slave Trading was Jewish Mercantile specialty, History of the Jews by Soloman Grayzel Principal Slave Traders in Europe, Middle-Ages, Dr Leonard E Barrett Sr Temple Univ. on Jews & Slavery, Brazil Video 2h56m47s https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vpwr9oktagsc70nx2lubs/The-13-Sugar-Colonies.mp4 Audio 2h56m47s
This trading corridor will seal the Russian supremacy in central Asia, plus opening the gates of India and Africa to Russia, where they are increasingly active. The maritime powers cannot accept that under no circulstances and will go big lenghts to sink it. Its not just the British, but the financial empire of maritime assuranceers (Lloyds), financiers, tax haven trustees smugglers, drug dealers, stock dealers, funds, investors and global corporations that overtop theatrical governments and politicians.
The apparent israeli ease to decapitating foes could be explained by internal clashing forces within those target countries. Long term insidious penetration is acquired by business and trade. Take Russia as an example. The loyalty of the economic elite, eager for a globalist economic opening was more than dubious before the SMO. Ironically, the sanctions neutralised this gang, for the moment.
On the contrary, Iran has not experienced such a process. The trading Iranian oligarchy, to which the ayatollahs (Rafsanyani) belong has been progressively dismantling the legacy of the revolution, ostracising Amahineyah, the true Iranian popular leader, facilitating the physical suppression of Raisi, Suleimani, and countless politicians and officers. The snake is in Tehran itself and Khamenei protects them.
Hey, someone in 2025 can finally spot that these travelers go throughout history buying and selling in foreign lands. Oh, and sacrificing children on top of pyramids and thru planned parenthood clinics.
zionism and naziism are synonymous. This is my neocons and zionists are soulmates. The US didn't say "No", they said "Not Yet". The US is actively involved and as criminal as the zionist state.
It's simple enough, and perfectly ethical within the rules of Israel's peculiar system of ethics. If, as many rabbis and others have declared, all Gentiles lack proper souls and are "lower than cattle", Jews are the only real human beings. That puts a quite different face on killing Gentiles, let alone cheating them, lying to them, etc.
The decisive question that the Gentiles of the world - i.e. everyone except Jews - should put to the Israeli government is: do you believe that Jews are the only proper humans with real souls?
If the Israelis were to reply, "Yes, we believe that", cards would be on the table and the non-Jews of the world could move on to deciding what to do about such a situation.
Of course, if the Israelis do consider Gentiles to be subhuman, they would have no compunction about lying and answering the question in the negative.
Given the regular relationship of what anyone in the Washington establishment says to the truth, let alone under Trumpf, I would not put much weight on that word ‘currently’.
Ok boomer
I certainly do not celebrate war, ever but I am happy to say hello to you, Jane :-)
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They won't. The United States will intervene to do a Libya.
Nice contribution Dave. One comment on:"If for example, Mali calls for emergency military resupply. Then what route will those aircraft fly? " Unsure exactly what you mean with that.
IMHO, few -- if any -- Sahel State exercises any sovereignty whatsoever of their imaginary airspace, other than a few broke dick and useless air surveillance radars and a few useless decrepit attack helicopters someone donated to them -- unless, of course, completely supplied and 100% controlled by third parties.
All of which may motivate Russia in the direction of aiding Iran in this conflict.
Jonathan Cook posted an essay recently in which he pointed out the parallels between the Israel-Iran and Ukraine-Russia conflicts, in the sense that both of them represent proxy wars of the US against the countries that threaten its continued global dominance.
I think Cook's analysis is on-target and that the most rewarding view on the current events is from a great powers perspective, à la John Mearsheimer. I don't dispute your observations on Russia or on China. And I also think that all of these countries (Russia, China, Iran, et al.) recognize the same big picture: the US is at a crisis point in its global domination and will do (must do) everything possible to avert a shift toward a multi-polar organization. In that case, the US will seek every avenue to divide-and-conquer, meaning that its opponents must do everything to unite-and-mutually-aid.
I'm totally an arm-chair viewer, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
First of all, BRICS was an acronym popularised by Goldman Sachs, just a branding, with the inclusion of Brazil, South Africa, and India being about investment themes. Brazil is not in the big league yet and likely never will be. India is like Turkey, a cat who sits on two chairs, more western than not. As for the RSA, it is a DEI choice only.
The Eurasian geopolitical lineup looks more like PRICK (Pakistan, Russia, Iran, China, (N)Korea. 4/5 are declared nuclear powers. Much direct trade will be over land + the Caspian Sea. Russian Icebreakers and the northern fleet will own the Arctic for decades to come. They look like a pretty solid fortress to me with people, resources, and military tech inside their walls.
I don't see PRICK as having ambitions requiring blue water 'force projection'. It is wiser to protect their region of influence and allow the west to self destruct wasting resources on blue water 'force projection' - which is not even a peer adversary for Yemen. Friends and trading partners in Africa and South America might be nice to have, but I do not see any zeal within PRICK to shed much of their own blood over there.
Didn't Pakistan have a CIA inspired Coup in 2022 to replace a PM who wasn't pro-Western enough? Not sure it's in any anti-Western Alliance, Cheryl.
India is a more important trading partner for Russia at the moment. But, China is stably linked with Pakistan in the strategic sphere no matter what the surface indications are at any particular time. If WWIII broke out, Pakistan might be 'neutral' in the same sense that Spain and Sweden were in WWII. But India would be a western proxy cosplaying as Hindu nationalist.
Pakistan will be on the opposite side to India, siding with either China or the USA.
India would likely be neutral as they're entirely self interested.
India with NEVER side with China, so India sides with the west, Pakistan has no choice, so China it is.
I'm not disagreeing Cheryl.
But there isn't a lot of actual substance to the Sino-Indian hostility is there?
These are not existential issues.
I think India is, may be, too shrewd to go down with the West?
Agreed, if this develops further with NO action from China or Russia, BRICS is a lame duck.Just my opinion.
Whare the BRICS defence/security agreements that would not be lived up to in your mind? So far the focus has been trade and cultural exchange.
It's the SCO that should be supporting Iran, not BRICS.
Militarily, only Russia and China would have enough of a deterrence factor in case of US involvement in Iran. I think the big picture for the US and the West, is to throw in as many wrenches as possible, to hinder/stop BRICS or any other trade organization that will threaten their hegemony.
It isn't hard to hinder when many of the elites of the so called global south, and China and Russia, are still bedazzled by the west and it's consumerism mixed with mammon worship.
Gisele I don't think BRICS has any defence pacts or similar it is purely economic and mercantile.
Yet Iran is a bulwark against the salafis and al saud etc, they were happy to be in bed with dajjal yesterday now today they have a voice but not for the Palestinians whom they wish gone.
They use Makkah and hajjis to make money and made the pilgrimage a monopoly for themselves but yes if there's a buck in it count on them to join in.
One could call them the Antichrist from a Christian perspective, they grow and fund terrorism etc etc.
BRICS is a glorified dorm room bull session. that is all.
China depends on Middle Eastern oil and gas far more than the US or even the EU. Around 75% of Gulf crude oil exports are sent to Asian markets, and all of Iran’s oil exports go to China. It's also questionable how long Iran can function as a country without oil revenues or sufficient fuel for its own power generation and industry—especially given that almost all of its power stations run on gas. Iran’s southern provinces rely on desalinated water for drinking. A regime change operation that targets critical infrastructure would therefore stand a fairly strong chance of success. A focused disruption campaign could achieve regime change goals with far less cost, bloodshed, or political risk than traditional interventions
Lily. I disagree. You can't bomb people in to giving in. Germany, Japan, Korea, Vietnam. It doesn't work.
The Iranians are tough, resourceful and prepared. They have two powerful friends. I don't see them surrendering.
I agree to an extent (disclosure: I’m Serbian). However, having also lived in the GCC, I know all too well that mere survival in a desert region—under the current city‑planning model, with massive population growth compared to historical levels and already depleted aquifers—is impossible without functioning oil and gas infrastructure. You literally can’t survive. Living in modern housing without air conditioning is already questionable, not to mention without desalinated water. This will pose a massive challenge for Iran’s oil‑rich southern provinces, which are virtually complete deserts. I see that Iran doesnt depend on desalinated water as much as its GCC neighbours but still Iran’s three main crude‑export terminals—Kharg, Lavan and Sirri—sit off the coast of two hyper‑arid provinces: Bushehr and Hormozgan. I see now that the US coalition sucess in Iraq in 2003 was also largely dependant on shutting down elecyticity and water in Basra and Baghdad. "Water and electricity became scarce after most of Basra's electrical infrastructure was destroyed on 21 March.[28] On the 24 March, the International Committee of the Red Cross announced that 60% of Basra's population had been cut off from clean water, and warned of a coming "humanitarian crisis"
Good point. I’m surprised Iran hasn’t yet hit Israel’s own desalination plants. Israel has nine million people, here in summer, some seven million of whom it at least has to pretend to care about, in an arid province, where the main ‘river', the Jordan, is now a pathetic stagnant creek that you could wade across in two strides and barely get your knees wet and the Dead Sea is fast evaporating into a mud-patch. That’ll be the next step up on the mutual escalation ladder, I suppose.
Palestinians also depend on Israeli water supplies so I assume that Iran has to take that into consideration. Additionally Southern Iran climate is incomparably harsher than the Levant
Yes, obviously so. But Israel’s population density is high and it is still pretty arid. It took me seconds just now to find an extensive online article ‘How Desalination Came to da Wescue in Israel’. To quote just two pars:
'Today, Israel gets a whopping 55 percent of its domestic water supply from desalinated seawater and brackish groundwater. Producing 150 million cubic meters each year, Israel’s Sorek desalination plant is the largest in the world! It alone provides 20 percent of the potable water that Israel consumes. In addition the army of 5 large desalination plants along the Mediterranean Sea, close to 30 smaller desalination plants filter brackish groundwater throughout the country, mostly in Negev desert in the south.
To supplement (and even partially replace) the National Water Carrier, the government has begun building a new National Water System. The new system uses pipelines to connect the new desalination plants with consumers, making it possible for such a significant portion of the Israeli population to get its water supply from desalination technology.'
True (excepting Japan, after two atom bombs). Conventional strategic bombing only ever hardens civilian will to resist. It’s only really any use as an attrition strategy preparatory to ground conquest and occupation.
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No, India also purchases Iranian oil.
Neither oil nor overflights play a role (the US could get both much more easily and cheaply, simply by playing nice).
The War On Russia is simply a question of power, of breaking those who refuse to bend the knee.
That is all.
Or they'll commit a false flag mass casualty event in the US and blame it on "Iran" to stir up the stupid goyim (again).
Well, they’re 'da Middul East’s only Demaahcwacy’, after all: the majority of them voted that foul Kahanist junta into power.
In. fairness, a sizeable minority of Israelis loathe Bibi and his smirking gang as much as I detest Starmer & Co.
One does feel some sympathy for those of the Israeli ‘left’, albeit what’s happening to them is nothing compared to what has been meted out to millions of Arabs and Persians for decades by the rogue state of which they are immigrant citizens. As a UK tax-serf myself, I’m hardly in a position to throw stones: by failing to emigrate from my own degenerate, warmongering state, I am to some extent, however unwillingly, complicit in its ongoing crimes against International Law.
That’s it. From 2016-2024, the MSM’s lies became so brazen and ridiculous that even the dumbest rubes and hicks could see it. Meanwhile, independent new media - Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Judge Nap, Douglas Macgregor etc Twitter in general - has established far higher credibility. The western regime MSM is a busted flush.
Does that make any difference to policy? Probably not. They’ll just cover their actions with further layers of nonsensical lies and evasions, which no one will believe: see Starmer’s latest utterances as a case in point.
Well, you know the answers: no and no. Ten million marching would make no difference (unless they sacked Whitehall and Buck House and burned Parliament to the ground). There’s only one democracy in the world, Switzerland, and even that now seems to be fading.
Well Iran can be or probably has been gifted nuclear warheads from their close ally North Korea and Pakistan who has the Muslim bomb. Iran already have the delivery systems that have been demonstrated the capabilities to defeated the Israeli air defenses. Do the Israelis have a delivery system that can defeat Iran's air defenses? Iran is playing a tit for tat game to maintain global sympathy. It won't take many nuclear strikes to totally eliminate Israel it's merely a matter of geographical size when compared.
If anyone believes Kim has not already handed over warheads to Iran is in denial.. Nuclear weapons are basically an eighty year old technology. Issue is North Koreans have tested their warheads in recent times so they possibly work. When was the last time Israel had a nuclear test of the warhead and the delivery systems? Iran would probably need only 5. As the Chinese stated the US be able to destroy them ten times over they only need to be able to destroy the US once, possibly Iran has the same calculation in relation to Israel.
The eye of Sauron is a fictional creation from the "Lord of the Rings" and even in fantasy it was never capable of seeing and knowing all things at all times.
Pakistan is a US puppet. Turkey is in NATO. Sounds unlikely.
Yeah, you can. The West has the leverage over Turkey.
I must confess I don 't know how good Irano-Pakistani relations are. Can anyone shed some light?
I saw a report that the Govt. of Pakistan said it would nuke anyone who nuked Iran. Reports months ago mentioned that Pakistan would provide nukes to Iran in a war.
I conclude that the details are not specific enough to be certain.
Thanks Alan.
Flip flop relationship. Pakistan is more Saudi oriented, and its military and intelligence have forever been with US. There's a strong Shia-Sunni component in Pakistan as well. For example in case of Syria, most Pak youtubers were anti Iran but when it comes to Israel, they support Iran verbally.
It was Chinese supplied weapons that they used against India. Did they pivot from the US to China?
They'll take weapons from anyone.
Irano-Pakistani relation were pretty bad recently.
Exactly. What are the taxpayers gonna do? Vote Democrat?
As Boss Tweed used to say: “I don’t care who does the electing, so long as I choose the candidates.’ Only now, it’s Boss Adelson.
I have heard talk that the initial air successes by Israel was abetted by a cyberattack that disabled Iranian air defenses for hours before being restored. Any information on this possibility?
I've seen the same reports. It seems Iran didn't even require a cyberattack to 'disable' Israel's porous air defenses in its own strikes, as its hypersonics merely bypassed them directly.
Mercouris the duran accuses MOSSAD of strikes on Strategic RU Airfiled with sbu + MI6.
The truck conspiracy is pure mossad idea not budanov. They used it friday in Iran to some extend.
as of 30 min 27
https://youtu.be/H_NXG3UqIAY?si=mD4isYSdro3N4BE5
Mercouris has proven good sources in high level leakers near Kremlin.
3 weeks before Kursk invasion started he was aware of by the same source.
Internal debate followed between GS and Putin who wanted to avoid it to happen by any means.
GS was for attrition (it worked very well except for hundreds of RU civilians sacrified in the aim of long term victory with attrition), hard to believe but who knows? Very hard decision to be taken by VVP.
I believe it. The czar and his staff basically adopted the same strategy when Napoleon invaded Russia in 1812. They even sacrificed Moscow. But eventually, their war of attrition was successful. Not much remained of Napoleon's Grande Armée when it finally managed to escape from Russia. It all ended in 1814, when the victorious Russian army entered Paris.
I guess that such history lessons are taught at Russian military academies.
This was not a war of attrition—enough with scavenging garbage to decorate one's posts. Throughout Napoleon’s campaign, it was a war of ambushes, marked by three major battles, where Russian success hinged on terrain mastery and adaptation to climatic conditions. The Tsar knew full well Napoleon could never pursue him deep into Russia’s vastness.
It was a classic war of attrition. Read Clausewitz's books
My source is: Dominic Lieven. Russia against Napoleon. Penguin Books, 2016.
Herman. THAT is a superb book! Loved it!
"when the victorious Russian army entered Paris"
Yeah, and let's ignore the Prussian, Austrian, British armies, etc, who fought very hard all the way into French territory.
The Prussian and Austrian armies, together with Napoleon, came to Moscow. Clausewitz writes that he personally saw the Brandenburg Lancers in Moscow.
And I also did not hear where the British army fought Napoleon in 1814.
"And I also did not hear where the British army fought Napoleon in 1814." Correct.
Not mentioning the other allies of the Russians is not the same as ignoring them. After all, this is only a comment, not a book.
In the second place, I was just comparing the strategy of the Russians in Kursk and the one of Czar Alexander during Napoleons invasion.
Also: I think that it is fair to say that the Russians did the heavy lifting in this episode of the Napoleontic Wars.
Yup. He took 650,000 troops in to Russia and came back with may be 60,000 effectives. That's what broke Napoleon.
What happened to the Duran? I got no emails from them since June 1. Are they still up and active website? or did both Yahoo and Gmail manage to shadow ban them to my accounts? Both of these Chlamydiafornia-based social justice warrior slimeballs, Google and Yahoo, blacklisted it.
Still active. Still posting videos every day.
Are you getting it from their newsletter (in your email) or from Youtube? I'm thinking they are having a glitch in their newsletter dissemination and are not tech-savvy enough to fix it, or unaware of it. Their "comments" section never worked on the website. No reply to my email so far.
I just go straight to YouTube. So maybe you're right about their newsletter, which I've never used.
Why not watch their YouTube videos instead?
I don't do youtube. I saw some things pre-Maidan in Ukraine, and how all the homemade videos of atrocities were later censored by Google/Youtube. Watching Youtube makes me feel dirty, or like I'm one of the Goolag's little Matrix pods.
YT works, and it is the platform with the most reach still. It is not that hard to avoid being booted out. Problematic, sure but as long as I can use it blocking ads I will.
You can watch them on Telegram as well.
Good on you. Google's YouTube is a scourge that should be boycotted by everyone that opposes censorship & technocratic tyranny. It sits on the frontline in the Information War being waged on the masses, dominating the market via anti-competitive monopolistic practices via parent company Google.
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Alex Christoforou
https://rumble.com/c/AlexChristoforou
Alexander Mercouris
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Mercouris, a self-proclaimed 'expert' without foundation—just for those who settle for scraps and randomness. No basis, as he himself admits. So how can anyone assess the validity of info scavenged from some channel? That’s precisely what he does.
Mercouris is the best, in my experience, along with Simpicius. He is very good at analyzing the diplomatic landscape, with a thorough review and understanding of Western thinking. He has also been very good at seeing through the military fog and keeping his eye on the big picture and how the day-to-day action accords with the trend.
Um, what? Mercouris is very clear about what he knows and what he doesn't know, what is confirmed and what isn't. Which you would know if you actually watched his YouTube videos, which you obviously don't, so you post lies.
He may appear to be opinionated, and a shade wishful, but he's not going to reveal his sources else the basis for the credibility of his show would disappear.
This is nonsense. He is a trained lawyer and uses that background to construct fairly complex arguments based on various sources. As good or better than someone trained in history or political science.
Why do people say that? What other kind of lawyer is there?
While I like Mercouris, I can’t see the relevance of Mercouris’ background as a barrister. 'Sir’ Keir Shitbag is also a barrister, indeed a former Director of Public Persecutions, yet his ability 'to construct fairly complex arguments based on various sources' is on a par with that of last week's leftover vegetable soup. Unless, of course, the ‘arguments’ concerned are a load of wildly implausible nonsense based on absurd and obvious bare-faced lies, in which case that clammy mockery of a farce of a sham of two travesties of a mockery of a human slug of a Prime Minister is a genius.
EH. I can't allow you to lie like that!
Mercouris was at pains to stress he wasn't a military expert. It became a bit of a joke in the comments section because he said it so often.
He claimed some prior knowledge of logistics from previous work only.
If you have to lie to make your point, it's probably a 🐂💩 point.
Mercouris lacks the formal credentials of other comparable commentators, but he does seem very well informed. He seems decent and reasonable, what he says stacks up, and so far I’ve found him worth listening to.
Mercouris said himself, in yesterday's show, that he doesn't have access to any leakers near the Kremlin. He pointed out clearly regarding Israel's theorized involvement in Ukraine's "Spider Web" that he was only repeating speculation in Russian media, though one guy had written it to him in advance, but he was not much of an insider.
If Mossad/Israel trained them, not surprising the techniques are the same. If the Israelis were stupid enough to be hands on and leave solid evidence, they are past being "frenemies" and well into "reap the whirlwind".
So much for the Iron Dome......
When this is over it will not look good for Nuttyahoo.
The most important doccie last year was 'The Bibi Files' yet so few have seen it.
Alex Gibney is a well known veteran director/ producer with a strong reputation. Yet for some reason, God knows why, it seems to have struggled to find distribution either in the US or Europe. One might almost imagine that the people who control the western Corporate Media don’t want anyone to see it.
Israel's jet fighters can't carry enough fuel to make a round trip from Israel to Iran and back. They must be refueled inflight. At least twice -- once on the way in, and once on the way back.
Israel's attacks upon Iran last October happened with "200 Israeli jet fighters" and US aerial tankers orbiting safely outside the Iranian border and Iranian air defenses. These defenses are all Russian supplied 300s and 400s -- top of the line, state of the art systems, the best in the world.
Even last night's attacks by Israel on Iran had Israel orbiting just outside of Iran's borders with US aerial tankers and launching Israeli ordinance from safely outside Iranian air defenses.
It's just physics.
The locality of the damages Israel inflicted upon Iranian targets indicates the use of drones and UAVs. I don't think Israel is ready to test Russian supplied air defenses in Iran.
Of course, I could be wrong.
Also UK and German tankers. And the French are involved in some capacity.
Duh, the United States and its poodles were in it up to the hilt.
You make really good points! From everything I have read and researched and wheedled out of people who might know, Russian S300s and better yet, S400 missile defense systems are the best in the world for what they are designed for: Better than anything that the West has sent to Ukraine, for example. (The Iron Dome is not designed to intercept ballistic missiles, and THAAD is for high altitude maybe ICBMs and is very expensive so not comparable to S400s.)
You are correct, that Israel's F-35s (or other?) jet fighters cannot make a round-trip bombing run all the way to Iran and back without refueling in air at least once. I saw videos of that during the past few days. The tanker planes didn't dare enter Iranian air space but rather, were over other countries' airspace.
But what is Israel's objective exactly? They lack the ability to penetrate any Iranian uranium enrichment/nuclear bomb development facilities that are located deep within natural geological structures, e.g. solid rock mountains not man-made piles of earth. 2000 pound bombs can't penetrate hundreds of meters deep. Bunker busters (some of them, I think, that the US has) can go 300 meters deep but an F-35 can't carry a 5000 pound bomb! The US is not going to get involved, because the public doesn't want that (most don't want our involvement with Ukraine to continue either, let alone a 2nd involvement far away). Also, China gets a lot of its oil from Iran, so they won't be thrilled with any of this.
I don't think Israel's objective is regime change. Israel is not a major geopolitical power despite what everyone says, i.e. that the US is Israel's vassal state lol! Most or all of the Arab Muslim countries in the Middle-East and North Africa aren't thrilled with the potential of a nuclear Iran but aren't likely or able to do anything about it. Putin issued a statement that he didn't encourage Iran to develop nuclear missiles over the weekend. Iran has a very capable, intelligent, Muslim but not Arab populace of about 75 million people plus maybe 12 million Kurds and a few others. So about 90 million people. That's a lot! Tehran is probably like a lot of western cities: Sophisticated elites who aren't happy with traditional leadership. I don't know whether the rest of Iran feels similarly. Sanctions and isolation and sponsoring terrorist proxies because of ideology hasn't exactly endeared petrostates to the rest of the world, but Iran is one of the only ones remaining.
Anyway, if Israel knows it can't take out uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb development facilities, what is it doing? I know that Hamas and Hezbollah were funded by Iran mostly. Regardless, even if all 3 were gone, there are still 2 million Palestinians in Gaza and nothing will change that. I know this sounds very cold-blooded, what I wrote, but I am trying to boil things down to facts. And am thinking aloud... which is kind of rude in the comments. Sorry.
Also internal drone trucks like that used in Russia. Exactly the same. That points to foreign hands and long term penetration of iran.
That sure seems likely and military possibly infiltrated also and now it seems the hardliners were killed immediately filled by soft liner western leaning and or K family aligned. Yet an almost immediate response was despatched with good results but why not more directed at Dimona and aircraft support buildings and fuel. Time for the for to clear and see if this is a true strike or please let's acquiesce as Pezeshkian style.
Pezeshkian is a cia or mossad asset ...remember the copter crash (terror attack). He is leader of the Bazar lobby who simply wants to do business again with carpets buyers (real). They are very strong in the capital and in Ispahan but nowhere else.
he is not. You know nothing. Follow Marandi
G'day Ann, well he certainly is a softliner willing to negotiate and be duped or played by the West. I prefer to read but do you recommend Prof Marandi which seems only available as a talking head?
Marandi said about this guy -the new president - because he was asked, that the new president is not a politician but a doctor and so he is not ' a hardliner military guy ' but he was voted in by the Iranian people because of the economy I think which is suffering from so many sanctions for so long. Now BRICS is giving countries another viewpoint but long before BRICS Iran was under the heaviest sanctions of all. Russia has more now - but before Russian sanctions got so bad, my understanding is that even Russia didn't do business with Iran becasue of sanctions. Like what happened to Syria -the so called cesaer sanctions or shall we say Samson sanctions. And Iran's economy is doing better - I think the people are happy - and the new president - complicated name to spell - has supported the Resistance fully. They got rid of Zarif which many people didn't like because he was fully educated in the west ( I think ) but in reality even Zarif didn't do anything to hurt Iran for the zionists. I think we in the west should look at our own failures as far as electing straight politicians and not always be so judgemental of Iran. I think its a cool government and even though many bad talk Saker - I learned everything from Saker, and he liked the way the Iranian government was set up- with the religious figure being in charge of the military. Iran is a noble country.
Yeah the mystery surround Raisi death, cui bono I still wonder and Pezeshkian is as you say a western dupe sorry to say or maybe a plant.
Nonsense.
Any inference that the Iranian missiles were targeted at military sites is pure fabrication. They launch and hope that as many people are killed as possible.
Hopefully, they were successful!
What's the basis for your thoughts in your comment Gabor, are the missiles ungided slingshot pebbles and where is the info to suggest it is a pure terrorist attack. Obviously scaring the population helps unsettle bibi the baby killer but as a premeditated thing I doubt it but look forward to your supporting evidence.
There is zero proof of hitting any military targets. The closest hit to anything military was the Defense building in Tel Aviv, which they missed by about half kilometer.
why are all of Israels strategic military sites embedded in civilian areas. The list of successful Iranian strikes is already out. Its strange you think you can fool anybody here.
So you are directly contradicting your own claims. A hit within 500m of "the Defense building in Tel Aviv" at a range of what?~1000km is not "launch and hope that as many people are killed as possible".
Look at those videos of Tel Aviv, how close do you estimate are those impact blasts to the base of the cluster of smoke trails from the upwards firing interceptor missiles?
That is a targeted hit on a military installation in an urban area. Which also puts an interesting spin on any statement that Hamas or Hezbollah are using their people as human shields by putting military installations in urban areas.
Same could be said about many of RF supposed huge attacks but the munitions are guided to hit less than premium targets rather than miss, nothing is as it seems Gabor. Alliance formed in the background or merging agendas of the so called opposing lead players.
Because all the evangelicals prayed for Israel, God intervened and diverted the missile away from military headquarters. My source is Facebook.
Ahh, Gabor Salamon does what Jews do! Not a comment worth reading.
Iran took out the THAAD battery that was supposed to protect the defense HQ - much more important than the building itself.
'Zero proof' is what one expects from an apartheid police state with a unified, compliant population - over 80% support for the genocide and over 90% uptake for the Clot Shot. So of course there's 'zero proof.' There's always 'zero proof'. There's 'zero proof' of anything bad happening in N Korea, too.
We're supposed to believe that Iran deliberately wastes ammunition on civilian targets even as Israel goes after their missile launchers. 'Oy vey! Those crazy Muslims, always with the death wishes and suicide!'
We get served this same smorgasbord of bullshit every time somebody resists the anglo-zionist regime-change machine.
Good going: You've convinced every patriotic Iranian (and lots of other folks besides) that Iran needs nuclear weapons just to ensure its own survival. The ayatollah had better rethink his fatwa against nukes, otherwise he may wind up being sodomized with a bayonet like Qaddafi.
So how many were killed? Or did they fire on desert?
There is lots of proof in the form of videos showing the attacks and pictures showing the destruction. You're not a good liar, Gabor. Bibi will be disappointed.
Gabor, I actually burst out laughing while reading your comment. Thank you.
(BTW, Who writes your material? )
Thanks for the complement. (Frankly, I did not know I was that humorous, but now I will head to Hollywood and make a fortune),
Unintentional humor is the funniest kind.
Not laughing at oneself is hilarious.
Same for Russia...I do expect a new major FF in RU soon, pure MI6 strategy (terror).
Tonight we had in Ukraine in Kramenchuk, a multiple missiles + geran extremely long attack with all types of missiles used including khinzal, very strange so many missiles on one target only? Taurus cache maybe?
Oil ref was totally destroyed burning for hours (still is, no power).
Whatever will Zelensky do, now that all the attention is on the Middle East.
Cry and stamp his feet as he cries for Donald, his Babysitter.
Time to invade Kursk again!
I haven't a clue, but he does seem very averse these days to spending much time in Ukraine and sleeping in his own bed. A never ending World tour is what we see. Iirc didn't he recently visit Albania ? I now wonder what on Earth that was about, to me, it seemed odd at the time, but am now curious whether the MeK were involved.
If Albania, either narcotics or human trafficking.
I laughed, as it's so true in general. But it seems there's more going on in Albania these days:
"The "Iranians" would likely be the communist MeK terrorists, who the U.S. is housing in Albania. The Mujahedin-e Khalq is run like the cult, when Hussein housed them in an army base the women and children were forbidden from leaving. They supported Iraq's invasion of Iran with U.S. weapons and funding, and they interrogated war prisoners while torturing them. The prisoners were buried alive.
They have killed Iranian bureaucrats and police, often with car bombs, and tried to kill the ayatollah, whose left arm is withered from a bomb attack. Israel has used them to murder Iranian nuclear scientists and technicians.
Online they pose as ordinary Iranians, expressing support for the U.S. sanctions. Lots of sock puppet accounts. Members of the Washington regime can then retweet them, saying, "Look, here are Iranians writing in Farsi and agreeing with us!"
I know many Iranians here in Western Europe, and none of the women wear veils, that perennial topic that is used against Iran. It doesn't matter which side of Iran's politics they are on. None of them would ever support the communist MeK, or Israel. (The only ones who'd do that are the communists who fled the conservative revolution long ago, who are in separate social groups from the other Iranians.)"
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/true-promise-3-iran-responds-with/comment/126089282
Or shady trade in human organs.
No, old caches of Soviet-era arms.
thank you for reporting
Israel.
We know Trump knew about the attack. He upped Saudi oil production two weeks ago.
"For either Trump knew of the attack, in which case he is no more than Netanyahu's stooge. "
Trump wrote on his Truth Social that he knew about the attack on Iran and 'green lighted' it.
Yeah, he wrote that, after the attack. Who knows if it's true or not.
Well it's there so their is no case for 'plausible denial.'
Doesn't matter, he's all in now.
All nations, not aligned with the West, have to advise their intelligence services to start thinking like terrorists just to come close to the devilish thinking of Mossad, MI6 and CIA.
Should have been done, long ago.
I don't buyy the internal drone starting from the the boxes shown in that light truck. There is no phisical explanation how to start them from this narrow boxes
In Russia it was Russians working for Ukies, in Iran they were Iranians working for Mossad. Iran said they arrested 16 for Mossad affiliates. There's a photo of the boxed containers used for drones same as those found in Russia and pick-up trucks that the Iranians said were used to bring the drones to the targets. Go read Telegram.
The "Iranians" would likely be the communist MeK terrorists, who the U.S. is housing in Albania. The Mujahedin-e Khalq is run like the cult, when Hussein housed them in an army base the women and children were forbidden from leaving. They supported Iraq's invasion of Iran with U.S. weapons and funding, and they interrogated war prisoners while torturing them. The prisoners were buried alive.
They have killed Iranian bureaucrats and police, often with car bombs, and tried to kill the ayatollah, whose left arm is withered from a bomb attack. Israel has used them to murder Iranian nuclear scientists and technicians.
Online they pose as ordinary Iranians, expressing support for the U.S. sanctions. Lots of sock puppet accounts. Members of the Washington regime can then retweet them, saying, "Look, here are Iranians writing in Farsi and agreeing with us!"
I know many Iranians here in Western Europe, and none of the women wear veils, that perennial topic that is used against Iran. It doesn't matter which side of Iran's politics they are on. None of them would ever support the communist MeK, or Israel. (The only ones who'd do that are the communists who fled the conservative revolution long ago, who are in separate social groups from the other Iranians.)
Yes I am talking about these boxes. How could a drone start out of them? They are simply too small.
Vasilios, I read information about a cyberattack that disabled Iranian air defenses early June 13, in Larry C. Johnson's Sonar 21 post June 14 eve.:
"Israel, with help from the West, hit Iran with a cyberattack early Friday morning (Tehran time) that disabled Iran’s air-defense system. Israel and the West anticipated this would disable Iran’s ability to track and attack inbound missiles for several days. According to Pepe Escobar, Iranian technicians got the system up and running in TEN hours." (emphasis mine--just 10 hours!)
Now~wouldn't we like to know which West country or countries gave Israel the help that resulted in the murders of the leaders, scientists, and their families?
People like to believe any plausible reasoning that makes Iran look incapable. What about the possibility that Iran allowed Israel to strike first, and this was needed to get the ball rolling.
Yes that certainly should be considered with the softliner leader Pezeshkian who think negotiations 1st 2nd and 3rd but only after devastating (sic) strike will he act, cui bono?
Bless the martyrs in this struggle.
The tit for tat is still ongoing as of now. See who cries uncle first. Last round was Iran and that led to this as Israel believed they won then.
Yahoo already cried for Uncle Sam, from his Greek hideyhole
Greek hidey-hole. In the light of the recent increased seismicity in the Aegean region it would certainly be something to see him taken out by an Earthquake in some kind of divine retribution. Oh well...dream on ! My guess he's at one of the SBTs on Cyprus.
Greece or Cyprus should arrest him and hand him over to the ICC if they had any sense of decency. Bring on the Quake!
It doesn't comes down to the generals crying uncle, but to which citizens are stronger or more controlled.
They should target government buildings and Israeli leadership, as well.
I always wonder why we never hear about parliament buildings being hit. I guess it's some quiet agreement worldwide, that we don't hit you and you don't hit us. Aside from the MPs, the buildings contain a lot of history that they don't want to see destroyed.
Because the parliaments can easily be moved, and they make no real decisions, anyway.
Quite. In any war situation, obliterating the symbolic talking shop that is the Palace of Westminster would have about as much practical effect as smashing the Tate Modern or the Copper Box Arena.
That said, flattening the Knesset might do a lot to cheer the Iranian population (though if the Iranians did, the Israeli state and western MSM would be near-guaranteed to suppress or minimise the fact.)
If the Knesset were to get flattened, the west would use it as a pretext to beat the war drum harder.
Oh, no doubt: ‘It’s a diwect attack on demahcwacy!!’
Iran, so far as I can see, is at least as much a democracy as the UK.
Supreme Leader is head of the Armed Forces? Yes in Iran and UK.
Supreme Leader is head of the national Church? Iran and UK alike.
Frock-wearing established clergy embedded in constitution, with a hands-on role in lawmaking? UK, and Iran too.
Supreme Leader formally unaccountable to and irremovable either by Parliament or voters? No difference there.
Women in headscarves a routine daily sight? Remarkably similar there too.
Elections make negligible difference to anything, no matter how frustrated and poor voters become? UK and Iran, same-same.
Armed with nuclear weapons, with a shadowy, powerful, hardline faction, permanently embedded in government, dedicated to destabilising the Middle East through subversion, proxy forces and terror tactics? Aha! That’s the distinction. That one's just the UK.
Don't you know, when WE do it, then that makes it okay!?
Seems to me that Iran, if it survives then it has every incentive to pursue a nuclear weapons programme and fast. If that is the case then Israel and also the USA cannot let Iran survive. So is this a war to the finish? And if the Neo-Cons in DC think this way then it is almost a certainty the the USA will enter into the war. On almost every occassion since Trump was elected he has demonstrated in foreign policy terms the deft touch of a drunken bull in a china shop, and pursued a neo-con policy - despite early promise. Lots of words as usual from Trump - but he is either pursuing a neo-con policy or has simply lost control of that policy.
There is no need, turnkey devices should be easy to procure from Pakistan and/or North Korea. In fact, they might already have been acquired, with use restricted to MAD only, not first strike.
That equation is way off. There is zero "MAD" capability from these States IMHO.
Why not? Israel is a tiny country extremely exposed to even a small nuclear device.
true, but Israel has deep pockets that run across the med and Atlantic. But in the big scheme, this is not MAD in the traditional sense. Only a few States can play that game.
but yes, i stand corrected. proxies i suppose could also be set up with the MAD Dr. Strangelove decision tree theoretically, But would the big dogs and doggettes really go for that?
I think they would support it if it meant that israel would be forced then to back off the nuclear threat.
It doesn't matter. India and Pakistan have MAD. If one of them shoots the other will too, so they haven't. If this fails and India and Pakistan nuke one another, no unfortunate survivors in either country will care what the rest of the world does after that - their world has already ended.
As Victor said, the MAD does not have to be worldwide, just enough to deter Israel from a nuclear strike on Iran. Iran has demonstrated ability to strike Israel anywhere they want with hypersonic missiles, which are capable to bearing nuclear devices. The statehood of Israel could probably be ended utterly within minutes with a small handful of medium yield devices.
Indeed, it would not surprise me at all if Trump were to decide to enter the fray and Putin then arranged for nuclear warheads to be delivered to Iran for deterrence purposes. In that case, we might well see both the US and israel back off.
That would be doing the whole world a favour.
Yes - if it worked. But we’re in the dangerous territory of high-stakes Game Theory here, and the Israeli-USSA tactic, with Russia, China, Iran, everyone, has been to play the role of the dangerous fanatic lunatic that has to be appeased and doesn't give a damn about escalation, even if it destroys the world. That’s hard for sane, responsible statesmen in Russia, Iran, China etc to deal with - particularly since the Israel-USSA politico-insecurity class (and their pathetic Eurovassals) have been playing that game so long, it has taken over their psyche. The only state that ‘gets it’, ISTM, is North Korea, which has made a point of building an Independent Nuclear Deterrent and wildly screeching about its willingness to use it, thus securing its sovereignty and stability and ensuring that the USSA leaves it well alone. Sadly, you simply cannot be reasonable with these people. They are thugs, bullies, mafiosi, and frequent, credible and scary threats of serious violence really are the only language they can understand. Anything else, they take for weakness and an open invitation to existential subversion and aggression.
G'day Victor, I feel you are endowing VVP and the shadow power in RFed with something not there, they want harmony and resumption of business not securing national stability and security through strength of actions, evidenced by the snails pace attritional warfare at a large cost in lives for a hoped for result tomorrow against an immoral evil empire with no boundaries.
If I was Putin I would say"Shut down Starlink in Ukraine, or Iran gets nukes. "
That sits so far outside the legalistic frameworks that the Russians et al adhere to, I wouldn't hold your breath. Many here may perhaps forget that in the East, things are done differently. Thankfully!
I don't think he would, as the U.S. couldn't even achieve air superiority in the attack on Yemen. In the end they had to settle for Yemen promising not to hit the US Navy - which Yemen wasn't doing until the Navy attacked them. The peace agreement didn't ban Yemen from attacking shipping going to Israel, so it was a U.S. defeat.
And Yemen's air defences, as Simplicius says, are probably from Iran. So imagine what Iran could do. The U.S. can do damage but they can't defeat Iran with attacks from the Navy, and Trump knows this.
The U.S. doesn't have Saudi or UAE backing either. And the neocon plan was to use Afghanistan and Iraq as bases for the war against Iran. That didn't work out.
"The peace agreement didn't ban Yemen from attacking shipping going to Israel, so it was a U.S. defeat."
Have ships been sailing unmolested to Israel since then?
Indeed, Israel can't defeat Iran and Iran could fire nukes at some point in the future, if they had to. But let's remember, Netanyahu is not thinking about the future. He is thinking about his immediate political survival.
As soon as he is out of office he will be prosecuted for his involvement in taking bribes from a Jewish billionaire in the U.S. So he has to keep his coalition together, and he is pleasing them with a war while the economy is tanking.
If nukes were to be used only as MAD measure then they lost all the value as a deterrent - the West seems to believe to bypass the problem by making the gov. go away, decapitating the leadership etc. till there is nobody to authorize the strike.
That is a problem with the nukes - if you do not use them the opponents stop fearing them. Then there is also another issue - if the country is under attack by the terrorist means and there is neither a declaration of war nor a clear identification of the opponent - what do you strike at? This is a q. valid for Russia and Iran or whoever acquires the nukes. Just nuke London? Or would that be Berlin? I suppose London would do but the population there has precious little to do with the original Brits anyway???
You mean, with the original banking cabal that owns the collective west?
Russia should give them a few nukes and by secret diplomatic talks tell bibi, Trump and co, don't even dare to try.
You bring up a good point. It will be interesting to see Russia's response both publicly and be4hind the scenes in support of Iran should Trump make the wrong decision as described by Simp.
Did not Pakistan offer a bit of nuclear help?
I believe they did.
Unfortunately Russia is too entangled with Israel. Not sure why because Israel is always acting against Russia with US and most Russians in Israel have their loyalty to the genocidal state over Russia.
Keep you friends close but keep your enemies closer.
Whilst coping body punches and trapped for manoeuvring. abcderg.
War is a bitch!
Russians in israel are not Russians and never really were. They are jews and always owed their primary allegiance to israel as evidenced by their move to and participation in the genocidal occupying regime.
Does not have to be nukes. Why not fly in more EW systems and AD into Tehran? Would Israel start shooting at Russian supply planes?
No different then when the west dumped stuff into Ukraine. Putin failing to do this, might convince me he will do nothing to upset his local Jewish voter base.
That Pact with Iran that Russia signed will be useless as Israel is not going to stop bombing Iran unless planes start going down. What good is a pact with Iran if their government fails and you do nothing Vlad?
I see that Russia asked, but Iran refused support thus far.
Pakistan already offered nuclear umbrella to Iran
Pakistan is a US puppet that has jailed it's own leader at the request of the US.
Scarcely credible.
Trump always tries to please all sides in foreign policy. Ditching election promises to please the neocons and Jew-dominated media, while holding back just a little. Like how he wouldn't attack Iran when ships were hit in the Persian Gulf. (Mysteriously, a Japanese ship with a Russian crew was hit "by Iran" just when a Japanese minister was visiting Iran.)
At that time he condemned Iran for what were obviously Israeli or US operations, but he wouldn't sink his chances of re-election by attacking, as the Iranians would mine the Strait of Hormuz shut, blocking all oil trade.
That infuriated the Zionist Jew Matt Drudge, and that is when he broke with Trump. (I know, I had his site bookmarked back then.) But no Trump supporters like to mention that.
Iran should have gotten The Bomb a long time ago.
Seems I needs must repeat: Trump is weak, stupid and easily manipulated. He has no real ideology other than vanity.
Iran is not winning. For a year. Yes they’ve done some minor damage.
Iran’s leadership that’s still alive: we’ve already established what they are , now they’re negotiating the price.
😜
Amusing comment. I'm sure the people of Tel Aviv would agree with you.....not.
Victor they are dispensable in bibis eyes because he have to stay out of court.
Have you seen what Iran's Fattah-1 hypersonic missiles did to the big Haifa oil refinery and other targets in the past 12 hours?
Iran has a working air defense system now. Where is Israel's Iron Dome and the Patriots the US supplied?
There is no winner in this horrible war that Israel started.
aDoozy - how do you figure Israel started the war? Lol.
This war started with the Yom Kippur raid of 10/7/23. Iran has now lost its “Ring of Fire” and now it’s losing Iran.
Background : Iran was for all time and through the Shah an ally of Israel. They’re Persians you know.
When Khomeini came to power surrounded by his Iron Guard of Lebanese Shia Militia sometimes known as the Army of God, then and only then did the Iran vs Israel hate machine start.
To catch up, Iran has been the Chief sponsor of Hizbollah from the start, indeed they were critical to the revolution in Iran, but more importantly the sponsor for HAMAS since the Arabs washed their hands of them in 2014.
(Because HAMAS sucks at war or peace).
Surprise attack =Aggression.
HAMAS launched a raid on Yom Kippur, 2023 that Iran certainly had to agree to… but HAMAS made a fatal mistake.
HAMAS bought The Palestinians… who live streamed who and what they are (the dregs of the Muslim world discarded into Slumlord tenements, yes with Jewish landlords). Iran made the same mistake so many others made, certainly including Lebanon- it included Palestinians.
When the raid’s camp followers showed the world what they are, Iran suddenly found itself the Strategic Victim of HAMAS’s tactical success. Decades of work in Lebanon, Syria, are destroyed. Yemen rocket harassed and now the Houthi have lost whatever they could have built or eaten for that matter and they’re out of missiles.
MOSSAD has opened a gift shop in Tehran and NETFLIX is negotiating the next season of FAUDA to be filmed in Iran…
Lol, viva la resistance ®️
The kikes started the war because they are an apartheid state. Everything else you wrote is cherry picking the facts.
Thanks Andy.
It’s good to know the Kikes took over Iran in 1979 to set up a 47 year struggle against themselves…. BTW since you’re racist (Kikes) what’s your problem with apartheid? Seriously?
Surprise Attack = Agression
Interesting suggestion.
Also the peculiar timing of the Hamas raid, being the 10th day
of the new year in the jewish religious calendar.
"New beginnings", or rather intensification of the ethnic cleansing.
Etc. and so on.
This war started Oct 7, 2023. This war.
That Israel started it … is a non starter.
How do you determine that? Iran, by any metric, has achieved what many states would not dare. What is your view of 'winning'? Perhaps the winning is standing up to aggression with truth, honour, and dignity. That is all we can do. Read the Bhagavad Gita.
Lol 😝 i’m not Hindu, you read it. The Iranians WERE the aggressors, they lost Lebanon and Syria and now they’re losing Iran.
As for the Honorable Iranians, may they rest in peace. The Living Iranians by virtue of being alive; we’ve already established what they are, now they’re negotiating the price.
The Israelis bought enough Iranians to run amok over and in Iran, the honest Iranians are dead - like Hizbollah before them - and return fire is absolutely commendable but not effective.
Getting a few shots off that killed a few people in an Israeli apartment isn’t the same as most of the government dead, the Israeli Air Force’s main problem over Tehran being air traffic control, and ground operatives are running around Iran essentially unimpeded .
At this rate Fiddler on The Roof will open in Tehran Theater and if some hecklers outside throw some eggs , they’ll be people cheering them on … from the safe distance of the Internet.
When I believe in a war I’ll go and did go as fast as practicable. That’s keeping one’s word (honor). If the commenters are so concerned then GO, you can take a copy of Bhagdvad Gita along for down time reading.
Neither you nor the book should expect to return .
AMEN 🙏🏻
🕉️ Indeed, expectation is a fool's game... Your writing style and stream of consciousness muddle of a comment reminds me of a famous bumper sticker that reads - 'Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here.'
Dude enjoy the Bot sarc, hope you get your 1500 calories for the spam lol 😝
Israel’s amoral and shameless wars of aggression and the ongoing genocide of Palestinians are the judaic values in action. The judaic education at large is deeply flawed and generates the inordinate numbers of vicious liars and criminals of all sorts.
It is obvious for all intelligent and decent persons that zionism is a criminal cult that must be banned worldwide
it started 4000 years ago. They are the real ennemy of Russia since 1917 bolchevik fake rev (the first color rev in fact).
French & English revolutions also involved “jewish bankers”.
What utter racist nonsense.
Facts are antisemitic:
https://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=read&author=carr&book=pawns&story=french
https://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=read&author=ramsay&book=nameless&story=french
Antisemitic lies are antisemitic
what is wrong with racism? you jews are the most racist tribe.... your stupid books are breeding and dietary laws...
In other words: why practice selfharming altruism?
And why does this get promoted by so many small hat professors
in US academia?
It is almost like there maybe is a bigger story to this part of consensus
reality.
Things were not always this way, so they say.
Which allegedly was when things were very bad & so much worse
than today. Allegedly.
Cause they wanted the Russian resources cheap and for themselves?
Interesting pov you post. Food for thought
It has a common far right lie that the Bolsheviks were Jewish
Glad to hear it , any details on that
Ok - let's check the facts. Who were the most prominent/influential leaders of Bolsheviks:
Trotsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky
Sverdlov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Sverdlov
Uritsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moisei_Uritsky
Zinoviev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Zinoviev
Litvinov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxim_Litvinov
Kaganovich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich
Radek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Radek
Kamenev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Kamenev
Kogan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kogan
Yagoda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda
Volodarsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._Volodarsky
Just a few names - there were way way more and Lenin was thought to have Jewish roots on one line of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_Soviet_politicians
You are cherry picking and making false claims. Lenin was not Jewish
Looks like you're just bursting with brains - can't compile same thought in one post? Why don't you actually read and go name by name. Including digging into Lenin's roots. Beggars have no servants. I'm not going to do your work for you, buddy.
What are you trying to convey here, Angelina? Jew is a religion, nothing ethnic and Europe, especially eastern Europe used to be full of jews.
To drag the Bolschewiki into the current situation is at least dishonest and you know that better than anyone.
"Looks like you're just bursting with brains"--you have a way with words, Angelina.
I am laughing!
I am going to remember your zing. Thanks a bunch!
Your IQ is low reply. You just randomly picked some members of the communist party, that means nothing.
https://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/articles/2013/06/17/ot-redakcii:-pyatyj-punktik
Are you an imbecile? Or just Hasbara Sayan?
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2011/05/31/lenins-jewish-roots-on-display-a7314
“Far right lie”
https://www.jpost.com/jewish-world/jewish-news/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish-317150
What percentage of them was Jewish. Cherry picking is either dishonest or low iq.
Try harder, zionist.
I am anti zionist. I got blue eyes, used to have blonde hair, big penis with a long foreskin, don't have a hook nose.
So I am not Jewish at all. I have gypsy ancestors though, so maybe you still consider me ae sub human?
you avoided the question so i won. thanks
Per Putin, first Soviet Government was 80-85% jewish:
https://www.jpost.com/jewish-world/jewish-news/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish-317150
That was debunked. Nice try though. I already linked the debunk as well. You have to have brain rot to take that figure at face value.
This makes the Western hatred for Stalin understandable. I have started to question their portrayal of him.
Stalin removed Kaganovich from power. That was his biggest “sin”.
That and the Doctors Plot of 1951-1953 - whether it was completely true, partly true or an NKVD fabrication.
The Bolshevik leadership contained many of Jewish descent. So what big deal. They were all communists who all paid very heavy prices for their dedication to the cause of overthrowing capitalism and landlordism in Russia.
They sure did: all those waves of Purges, each extinguishing many of the perpetrators of the previous one. Just look at the career of Stalin’s Internal Affairs Commissar Genrikh Yagoda (Jewish), who worked hand-in-hand with Gulag boss Naftaly Frenkel (coincidentally, also Jewish) to build the Baltic-White Sea Canal, exterminating some 20,000 penal labourers in the process; who was the enthusiastic executor of the Ukrainian Holodomor, executing or starving to death 4-5 millions Ukrainians; who had Old Bolshevists Lev Kamenev and Grigory Zinoviev (Jewish, and, er, Jewish) tortured, show tried and executed; and then, in 1937, was himself arrested on a marvellously baroque array of charges, tortured, tried in the 'Trial of the 21’, convicted and subjected to a particularly unpleasant execution, being forced to sit in a chair and watch all his fellow defendants (including Lev Levin and former Party figures Izaak Zelensky and Arkady Rosengoltz) being shot in the head one by one; then getting a bonus pre-death beating on his successor Yezhov’s orders, from Yezhov’s deputy Izrail Dagin (take a wild guess); before finally getting a bullet in the head. Dagin was then condemned to death and executed in 1940.
And of course there was the notorious Lev Davidovich Bronstein a.k.a. Trotsky, People’s Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs, who finally fled to Mexico but still got an icepick in the skull (made his ears burn): though frankly, after his mass murder and terror tactics during the Civil War, the Red Terror that followed the assassination of Leningrad Cheka boss Moisei Uritsky and the crushing of the Kronstadt Rebellion, it’s hard to imagine who could have deserved it more.
The Jewish poet Osip Mandelstam, who unwisely composed a poem mocking ’Stalin the peasant-slayer’ and his thick fingers and gleaming boot-tops was arrested, on a warrant signed by People’s Deputy Commissar for Internal Affairs Yakov Saulovich Agranov, also Jewish, and, naturally, tortured, tried and executed. Agranov himself was then himself arrested, on Yezhov’s orders, and shot as an 'enemy of the people’ in 1938.
Then you’ve the 'Night of the Murdered Poets' in 1952 and the 'Doctors’ Plot’ of 1953 (though these unfortunate people were by no means Communist Party goons as Yagoda, Uritsky, Trotsky et al had been).
Not every Bolshevist and NKVD officer was Jewish, of course; but a strikingly heavy proportion of them were. (Josef Dugashvili, a.k.a. Stalin, was a Georgian.) These facts didn’t escape Solzhenitsyn, a junior Red Army junior officer who suffered for years in the gulag: ‘It was not Russians who did this to us.’ Putin is also well aware of it. Most of the post-1989 oligarchs - from Abramovich to Berezovsky to Khodorkovsky to Vekselberg - are/ were also Jewish too, c/w dual-citizen Israeli passports, though again, the mortality rate has been high.
The association of Jews and Bolshevism in Russia is hardly surprising, of course: the old Tsarist system held Jews down and periodically pogrommed them, which can hardly have been pleasant, leading to much westward emigration. Jews had no stake in Tsarist Russia’s continued existence and every reason to want it gone. The old Austro-Hungarian Empire, by contrast was far more favourable to them: see The Radetzky March by Joseph Roth, one of the finest European novels of the 20th century.
"Not every Bolshevist and NKVD officer was Jewish, of course; but a strikingly heavy proportion of them were."
The fact didn’t also escape a young Churchill who wrote about the overwhelming presence of jews and jewesses among the NKVD bosses and torturers.
A fantastic comment. Soviet Russia is a fable the US would do well to look to. God willing we avoid the same fate in this country… perhaps we can skip the mass murder of millions at the hands of the Jews and go straight to Christian nationalism.
Considering the history of Jewish pogroms under the Czar's and Jewish insulation from the Orthodox Christian trappings of the state, is it any wonder that the Russian Jewish population should be over represented in the revolutionary ranks? Indeed, it would be surprising if they were not so represented.
Please read a thorough research on pogroms on the Ron Unz outstanding site. Jews have never been hesitant to lie when it is “good for jews.”
Thus jews have been wailing a lie after a lie while slaughtering and starving to death children and women in Palestine
Beadhead. Any reasonable person would agree with you. Not everyone commenting here is reasonable.
Enjoy!
https://www.unz.com/article/myth-and-the-russian-pogroms/
Yes - actually that’s a point I make myself in the post above. Unfortunately the Bolshevist regime in which they were so heavily represented became quite mind-bogglingly murderous, like the Terror of the French Jacobins, but on an even greater scale and lasting far longer. Still, there certainly doesn't seem to have been any ethnic favouritism: the likes of Yagoda were just as happy to arrest, torture and execute fellow Jews as they were Armenians, Russians, Azeris, Ukrainians or Uzbeks.
Several historians contend - with significant evidence, including from Kruschev - that Stalin (following the trumping up of the Doctors Plot) was planning a full-scale deportation of Soviet Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Siberia, but the old bastard died of a stroke before he could go through with it.
Yes, unfortunate indeed. But I've always wondered if "the old bastard" would have had anywhere near the political success he did were it not for the pressures (military, economic and political) the capitalist West exerted on the fledgling Soviet state. To the extent those foreign pressures had a hand in generating the paranoia of the Soviet state, then the collective West can be said to have been responsible for the excesses of Stalin's bloody rule. It's anybody's guess how things would have turned out had the West not acted toward the Russian Soviet state in such a hostile manner.
go away jew.
You clearly know nothing about the Bolshevik Revolution spouting such rubbish.
you are sick. Thank God you do not represent America or the vast majority of Americans.
That is rapidly changing as Americans are finally beginning to wake up to the true dangers of Jewish zionism.
You are wrong. Although the U.S. is at war with itself.
go away jew
Does this sound familiar? - "It was largely Klier’s work in the late 1980s which began to truly shed light on the origins of Russian-Jewish relations prior to 1914. Klier, born into a Catholic family in Kansas, “rejected what might be called the Fiddler on the Roof pieties and simplifications. In book after book, he emphasised that what the tsars and their ministers wanted, above all else, was for the Jewish settlements to be orderly and productive.” Klier further stressed that the much-maligned Pale of Settlement was simply the only response that the Russian administration could come up with, faced as they were with the “baffling question” of how to deal with the “fanaticism of ultra-Orthodox Jewry” which was thoroughly “unassimilable to official purposes." https://www.unz.com/article/myth-and-the-russian-pogroms/
Victor, I responded to RFR's response to Natoistan2's comment, directing RFR to perform a search: Bolshevik revolution and zionists.
I found a load of info!
I can only speak for the small "community" of Americans who I live with (around) and speak to about US foreign policy. 10 years ago I was just about the only person who held a negative view about the relationship with the Israeli psychopaths. Now it is almost 100% of us who acknowledge that the US citizen gets 0 benefit from Israel. So it is a small sample but I feel it is happening across America BUT the media is in an Israeli chokehold
I too mentioned the jew problem to an older lady who works in the bread department of Whole Foods and she said i agree and my son keeps telling me the same. anecdotal but great....
Zionism is not a solely Jewish movement. Its origin, in fact, lies with adherents of the Christian faith living in the U.S. and Britain, links it retains to this day. Zionism is an evil, political cult with both Christian and Jewish roots, which should be banned for its violent, racist extremism.
There is Brandeis university named after a subversive jewish weasel who claimed that being a zionist in America is a great thing for the US.
It was not for nothing that Benito Mussolini called zionists “jewish fascists”
Got to remember though that him calling somebody fashist must have been a positive connotation. Not a condemnation. And I remember under him some Zionist Jewish fighters got trained. Don't remember the intended context anymore.
Anyway since then I wonder of the composition of the brutal murderous and rapist Zionist forces that did the nakba and various heinous surprise attack crimes against Palestinians. Doesn't computer that they were random normies.
The jewish fascist organization Betar, spawned by jabotinsky (an eager admirer of Mussolini) is still active.
Well, basically that’s what they are. Jabotinsky’s Beitar movement, a formative influence on Israel, self-consciously modelled itself on the Blackshirts.
The fascist youth organization Betar, created after Italian fascist organizations, is still active: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/25/what-is-betar-us-the-group-pushing-to-deport-pro-palestinian-students
"Betar US is a branch of Betar, a Zionist youth movement founded in 1923 by Ze’ev Jabotinsky, who promoted the idea of strong Jewish militarism and territorial expansion. The group has branches across the world...
https://prismreports.org/2025/05/27/betar-trump-palestine-student-protest/
"Betar US’s former head claimed that the group works with the Trump administration and police to identify protesters."
Jabotinsky was proudly called "jewish fascist" by Benito Mussolini himself.
https://mondoweiss.net/2019/11/zionisms-uneasy-relationship-with-antisemitism/
RFR, I did a search: "Bolshevik revolution and zionists"
A LOT of information from a variety of sources appeared before my eyes.
There is enough history on the connection to fill a college course.
New Jew Propagandists:
lily357
Run Freedom Run
Inisfad
Gabor Salamon
Everyone knows now what Israel and its ilk are.
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/inuke:0?t=3485
Thank you Anna, 3 branches of my family are Ashkenazi Jew, plus the Christian side are unfortunately Zionist-Judaic Education Indoctrinated, never questioning the fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') amnesic Oligarchy which commands & controls western colonial empire fake democracy societies. "Permit me to issue the currency of a nation & I care not who makes its laws", attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1744-1812.
BABYLON (5000 BC) & PHOENICIAN EMPIRE ORIGINS OF OLIGARCH HEGEMONIC WEALTH For the past 7000 years, 'exogenous' (L 'other-generated') Oligarchy since Babylon-Mesopotamia (5000 BC) & Phoenician Empire (aka Kingdom of Israel & City-states of Tyr, Sidon, Byblos & Beirut) from 4000 - 0 BC have terrorized, invaded, pillaged, genocided & destroyed the once productive, peaceful indigenous Amazigh of North Africa & all indigenous peoples on every shore of the Mediterranean & Black Seas. The Torah, Old Testament, Talmud are propaganda tools for subjugating captured peoples under their control. The immense fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') power of Oligarchy stems from this destruction & imposition of fake wealth.
FOLLOW THE MONEY The US Federal-Reserve, Bank-of-England & Bank-of-International-Settlements have hidden triangulated minority shareholders across all three, which gives these individuals the power to issue all western colonial moneys as forgivable loans to friends, family & colleague mega-failing-projects such as Nuclear, mRNA, Pesticides, etc.
OLIGARCH FAKE MONEY CONTROL WAR & DESERTIFICATION 1) 5000 BC Babylon-Mesopotamia. Oligarchy by perverting 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'MEMORY') on the String-Shell (Cowrie-shell) Time-based equivalency accounting Value system unit used worldwide (eg. Wampum on Turtle-Island /N. America, Quipu in S. America, Cowrie in once 'indigenous' Celtic-Slavic Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands') takes AMNESIC control of lush 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') 10s of 1000s of years. ACCOUNT for collective contributions, buying, selling & co-investment. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy
Sustainable Polyculture Orchard Babylon people & region are lush with flowing rivers & distributed, decentralized power among every person, family & community. 'ECONOMY' (Greek 'oikos' = 'home' + 'namein' = 'care-&-nurture'). Cowrie records, registers, celebrates, compensates & empowers the Domestic (mostly women), Industrial & Commercial (mostly men) contributions over every person & Production-Society-Guild specialized 'companies' (L 'com' = 'together' + 'pan' = 'bread'). Participatory Accounting on the String-shell integrates a) 'Capital' (L 'cap' = 'head' = 'collective-intelligence' from contribution, experience, expertise & decision-making-acumen). b) Currency ('flow' as in recognition & empowerment from diverse stakeholders), c) 'Condolence' = 'social-security' for all conditions, d) Collegial 'education' (L. 'educare' = 'to-lead-forth-from-within') Credit, e) time-math-management Communication, f) professional Costume for identification of essential goods & service expertise & more. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy/participatory-accounting
Oligarch Amnesic ignorant, centralized command, control, conflict, bad management, leads to war & biosphere destruction into desert.
POLYCULTURE ORCHARD food trees are over 100 times more productive of food, materials, energy & water-cycle, than 2-D 'Agriculture' (L. 'ager' = 'field'). SYLVALIZATION (Latin 'sylva' = 'tree'). a) As empires spread, hungry for the hardwood Oak for weapons of war, forts, arms, ships etc. the main productivity loss is the indigenous, carefully cultivated 3-D POLYCULTURE ORCHARDs of all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' ancestors, which because of: a) Polyculture's 92-98% Photosynthesis compared with 2-D 'agriculture' 2 - 8% photosynthesis. Agriculture’s all settlers & 1st Nations had left to 'farm' (French 'ferme' = 'contract of servitude by the peasant imposed by the armed aristocrat') b) Deep Polyculture roots descending many 10s of metres into the substrate mining minerals, pumping water, developing extensive nutrient colonies etc. being 100 times = 10,000% more productivity than agriculture. Actually, this calculation is very conservative. In my experience
with both Polyculture & Agriculture such as a 50 square meter (7 by 7 metres) area under the pre-colonial average 100 year old Oak tree produced some 3 tonnes (3000 kg) of nuts/year with little labour except bring wastes to feed the tree. The same 50 sq. M of Wheat, Barley, Oats or Rye will produce only 3 kgs of grains requiring intensive mechanical ploughing, seeding, weeding, fertilizing, fencing & irrigation or drainage preparation.
c) Polyculture's nearly complete ~95% photosynthesis of solar energy into food, materials, energy & water-cycle, creates an energy vacuum which drives warm moist ocean winds inland. 60% of Moisture transfer from ocean to continent is through condensation of these winds upon quadrillions of square kilometres of fractal leaf & bark surface. Only 40% of moisture transfers as rain-snowfall. 2-D Agriculture only photosynthesizes 2-8% of solar energy, creating High-pressure airs which push wind from continent towards the sea, creating permanent desert. Phoenicia destroys North Africa's Amazigh, Kabili, Imazighen 'indigenous' stewarded Polyculture Orchards into the massive Sahara desert. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/b-ecological-design/1-indigenous-welcome-orchard-food-production-efficiencies
BLACK ACADEMICS ON JEWISH CAPITALISM & WEALTH BASED IN SLAVERY OVER 6 MILLENNIA SINCE KEY ROLE IN PHOENICIAN COLONIAL CONQUEST. 13 Sugar Jewish Plantation Colonies, Sephardic, Ashkenazi Jews as core of Slave Trade Christopher Columbus (Hebrew journals) as Morano Portuguese Jew starts Slave Trade, in 1498 5 ship expedition brought 600 Indians to Spain as slaves, previously as slave trader, Gold dealer in Africa Ghana, Gold Coast, Queen Isabella’s 3 Court Jewish Financiers Luis de Santangel, Abraham Zacuto, Don Isaac Abravanel. Curacao, Surinam Jodensavanne Zionist (Jew village Sugar Trade) Jan Pieterszoon Coen Chief Shareholder of the Dutch East & West Indian Companies centred in Netherlands, Oliver Cromwell & Menasseh Ben Israel Financier /c Dr Leonard Jeffries (NY City College) 100 million African Slaves stolen, Dr Tony Martin, Dr Aviva Ben-Ur, Stanley Mirviz, Cary Silverstein, Minister Louis Farrakhan (Jews Selling Blacks), Khallid Muhammad, Nation of Islam, Truth Terrorist 600 million Blacks slaved Over 6000 years compared /c supposed 6 million Jews over 10 years, Reparations, Lehman Brothers, 75% of Jews were Slave Owners & prominent in Slave Trade Rothschild (Mississippi Cotton Trade to English mills) Secret Relationship between Blacks & jews Vol 1&2 by Rabbi Jacob Levin published by Nation of Islam, Rabbi Historian Dr Bertram W. Korn (75% of Slave Owners were Jews), Dr Abraham J. Peck, John Henrik Clarke, Jewish Academic Mafia, Dr. Harold Brackman 1600’s Slave Trading was Jewish Mercantile specialty, History of the Jews by Soloman Grayzel Principal Slave Traders in Europe, Middle-Ages, Dr Leonard E Barrett Sr Temple Univ. on Jews & Slavery, Brazil Video 2h56m47s https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vpwr9oktagsc70nx2lubs/The-13-Sugar-Colonies.mp4 Audio 2h56m47s
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/wth37hv0kxfh49v1eayy7/The-13-Jewish-Sugar-Colonies.m4a
If you say so
Hussein Hopper Don't take what I say, double check everything from these & your own sources, as well as we can have a Both-sides-now, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Dialogue to make sure the facts, figure, logics etc. stand up to your & common standards. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues TRANSFORMING SOCIAL 'MEDIA' (Latin 'medium' = 'middle' i.e. 'obligatory presentation of both sides') FROM MONO TO DIALOGUE https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-communication-converting-social-media-from-mono-to-dialogue-libya
Ill get on to it after the war, or when i care
The situation is complex. To understand the stakes we should go down to the inner layers of which the kinetic war is just the top of the iceberg. This is all about the BIG GAME 2.0. on steroids, the control of central Asia, of ex-still British Indostan, and the run for Africa. The INSTC being the critical turning point of it all. https://www.eurasiareview.com/11062025-the-international-north-south-transportation-corridor-instc-what-lies-ahead-analysis/
This trading corridor will seal the Russian supremacy in central Asia, plus opening the gates of India and Africa to Russia, where they are increasingly active. The maritime powers cannot accept that under no circulstances and will go big lenghts to sink it. Its not just the British, but the financial empire of maritime assuranceers (Lloyds), financiers, tax haven trustees smugglers, drug dealers, stock dealers, funds, investors and global corporations that overtop theatrical governments and politicians.
The apparent israeli ease to decapitating foes could be explained by internal clashing forces within those target countries. Long term insidious penetration is acquired by business and trade. Take Russia as an example. The loyalty of the economic elite, eager for a globalist economic opening was more than dubious before the SMO. Ironically, the sanctions neutralised this gang, for the moment.
On the contrary, Iran has not experienced such a process. The trading Iranian oligarchy, to which the ayatollahs (Rafsanyani) belong has been progressively dismantling the legacy of the revolution, ostracising Amahineyah, the true Iranian popular leader, facilitating the physical suppression of Raisi, Suleimani, and countless politicians and officers. The snake is in Tehran itself and Khamenei protects them.
It is a lunatic stone age sect cynically used by amoral monsters.
You are antisemitic and confused
the palestinians are semites. Are the Azkenazi jews semite?
What’s wrong with hating the genocidal chicken swinging sim merchants?
The Jew and its behavior is the problem. - always has been.
Your stupid accusations are meaningless. All normal people are antisemitism for good reason.
Hey, someone in 2025 can finally spot that these travelers go throughout history buying and selling in foreign lands. Oh, and sacrificing children on top of pyramids and thru planned parenthood clinics.
And worshipping a volcano demon that eats foreskins
zionism and naziism are synonymous. This is my neocons and zionists are soulmates. The US didn't say "No", they said "Not Yet". The US is actively involved and as criminal as the zionist state.
No. The ‘Nazi’ ( a slur) is the antidote the the Jew parasite and it is insulting to the NSDAP to compare them.
It's simple enough, and perfectly ethical within the rules of Israel's peculiar system of ethics. If, as many rabbis and others have declared, all Gentiles lack proper souls and are "lower than cattle", Jews are the only real human beings. That puts a quite different face on killing Gentiles, let alone cheating them, lying to them, etc.
The decisive question that the Gentiles of the world - i.e. everyone except Jews - should put to the Israeli government is: do you believe that Jews are the only proper humans with real souls?
If the Israelis were to reply, "Yes, we believe that", cards would be on the table and the non-Jews of the world could move on to deciding what to do about such a situation.
Of course, if the Israelis do consider Gentiles to be subhuman, they would have no compunction about lying and answering the question in the negative.
And not just Zionists Talmudic Judaism as a whole.
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/inuke:0?t=3485
To bastardize Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore, "Hypersonics hitting Israel, smells like victory." Pour it on Iran.
BIG: U.S. rejected Netanyahu’s request to join the war.
Israel urged the Trump administration to join the war with Iran to eliminate its nuclear program.
U.S. official said that currently the administration is not considering such a move.
Source: Axios
Of course the important word is ''currently''.
With Trump 'currently' means for the next few seconds.
Till his next Tweet, in 90 seconds time….
yeah - and then Axios publishes another piece that says there's a meeting in the Pentagon blah blah - covering both prospects
US should go in while that sniveling, perpetual victim hides in Greece. No thanks.
Who are we talking about here? Bibi Mielkowsky?
Given the regular relationship of what anyone in the Washington establishment says to the truth, let alone under Trumpf, I would not put much weight on that word ‘currently’.