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Jullianne's avatar

I don't know how often this has to be said but here I go again: There is NO intention within NATO -old europe of escalating the conflict in any significant way (ignoring the nutty Baltics who can't do anything on their own except get annihilated, as Putin casually observed). It is risible to suggest that NATO is gagging for an excuse to get stuck in in Ukraine- much as Ukraine would love that. Western military leaders have kiboshed that. All this noise is intended now to try to press buttons amongst Russia's allies to panic them to pressure Russia into doing a deal that suits the west and soon, while there is still western Ukraine left for the west to hang onto.

As for why the Russians don't just go in all guns blazing and bring a swift end to this, because it wouldn't. The Russians are not so daft.

The Russian objective is to demilitarise Ukraine, and with China's encouragement, the wider west. There is no point in seizing territory just to sit on a permanent killing field- constant insurgency counter attacks, pockets of western supplied resistance eating up resources indefinitely into the future. The US would love that. Russia wants a Chechen resolution- peace and stability within a greater RF and what is left of Ukraine rediscovering where its loyalties really reside. And it will get it.

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It's obvious that the West, which controls Ukraine is getting desperate. They are looking at a strategic defeat that is far worse than the Suez Canal Crisis.

I think that we should look at the NATO escalation with skepticism, with the understanding that the Western elite are a greedy, but craven bunch.

The problem is that the Western elite have also dismantled their nation's economic system and industrial base. Greed destroyed the West. They outsourced their industrial base to China out of greed. Now they don't have the industrial base to challenge Russia.

I don't think that Putin is in a rush. His tactic of gradually grinding the Western world and its Ukrainian puppet down is working, even if there are occasionally alarming attacks as Ukraine tries a desperate bid to get the Russians to retaliate in a way they hope will draw the West in, unable to understand the West doesn't have the military power to defeat the Russians in a conventional war.

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