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Ursula von der Leyen

@vonderleyen

EU and Israel are bound to be friends and allies.

Because the history of Europe is the history of the Jewish people.

Our democracy flourishes if Jewish life flourishes, too.

I am committed to fighting antisemitism and fostering Jewish life in the EU. https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yNGaYQPozgGj

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MontyDog's avatar

Marriage made in hell. Zionists and the Nazi descendants.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Law is meaningless. Enforcement is the only thing that matters.

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Marledonna's avatar

Well, according to the west they are always playing by international law, the infamous rule based order. rules for thee but not for me. So, unfortunately you are right at the moment, but maybe all of these elements will change the balance even further into the direction of Russia.

Alexander Mercouris was also invited to the international legal forum in St Petersburg

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Initial comment was deleted by accident ☹️

So posting it here again:

“Ukraine never legally seceded from the USSR”… Very interesting! Territory integrity has not been violated (from Russian perspective) and if Ukraine wants to become independent, it first has to make use of UN Charter 51 and the right of self determination 😀 Also wondering what such situation of not having seceded means financially: does Ukraine has to pay money to Moscow, does Moscow needs to pay the province of Ukraine? I wrote from Russian perspective cause you could argue the west violated the territory integrity here

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MontyDog's avatar

Russia had to pay all Ukrainian bills that I do know.

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Angelina's avatar

“to my friends, everything; to my enemies, the law.”

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Eclavdra's avatar

There certainly needs to be a thorough vetting process. Many of them are likely Pro-Russian and are imprisoned for sabotage, providing targeting data and the like. Hard to say, you are likely right it's mainly a dumbasses in the bureaucracy, but it's probable some have been actively helping Russia, so it may warrant consideration.

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HBI's avatar

I'd put the non-Russians in a camp anyway and let them prove they are useful to the Russian state before letting them mix in the general population. If that sounds like a very Soviet idea, so be it.

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the long warred's avatar

“slow dawning of reality unto the collective West.”

What is this collective West outside of the shrill online salons of Atlanticists, where author you spend too much time? You’re becoming the mirror of what you gaze at too long.

Of course we western peoples never wanted this, nor can globalists be called “the West” as if they don’t loathe and disparage, degrade and destroy systematically anything “Western” for decades? We never lost sight of reality, we simply took our eyes off our government too long. The natural state of Americans is to mind our own business and treat government as a shady salesman at the door.

Belgian minister Theo FRANKEN is “West”?

I wouldn’t worry too much about Theo. He’s an actor, a high school drama queen.

Of course Trump isn’t obliged to fall into the trap set for him by our own rotting and senile deep state. Of course Trump isn’t risking everything to end the war, he’s risking as little as possible. Even Putin is discussing other matters past Ukraine* for there’s a huge world besides.

* our 🇺🇸 involvement is criminal insanity, yes.

Again I affirm. But that’s what happens when you elect the criminally insane.

But what will you do after the war and when America withdraws across the ocean? Our natural way is to remain on our side of the world.

What will you do when we’re gone?

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Liked this a lot:

”You’re becoming the mirror of what you gaze at too long.”

Seeing the nihilistic way of living in the ”west” one can wonder who is the enemy?

What is West? Does it mean there is a East that is an enemy?

No. Europe and the Anglo-americans has destroyed themselves from within.

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the long warred's avatar

No, the ruling class did.

Creating the monster that destroys them, Trump is the head of the monster.

We’re 🇺🇸 still quite here…

Now it is the Anglo American elites who are visiting…

We the American people are the enemy, surely that is obvious.

Even the English will likely survive. Never mind we Americans.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Yes. Meant the rulers, both the open but most the hidden ones.

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Politugal's avatar

Incorrect. If the west is really a bunch of democracies, then the people chose the "ruling class". if they are not democracies, then they should stop claiming they are and accept they live in dictatorships. But talk to anyone in the west about it and they will look down on you, claiming they are better than you because they are "democracies" and "free". In other words, the western people are also to blame for the current state of affairs, not just the "ruling class"

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the long warred's avatar

Talking online isn’t talking to “anyone.”

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ChatterX's avatar

Just don't forget Hitler was "democratically" elected, too..

People don't realize the real (Social) democracy has been swapped for so-called "Bourgeois democracy", which means only the Ruling Class/Oligarchs have an actual vote.

The public "elections" is a theater performance designed for a single purpose - give the people the Illusion of "choice/turnover of power" and maintain legitimacy/status quo of the Ruling Class.

youtube.com/watch?v=QVyQpznIA5E

It's called "False Dichotomy" or "Illusion of choice" - Dems vs GOP, just like Coke vs Pepsi (or BlackRock vs Blackstone) is still the same soda full of shit..

youtube.com/watch?v=GZmpzG-0pPM

You can vote, but you cannot select

2 cheeks of the same arse.. Look it up, 80% of the worst laws/bills are BIPARTISAN

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Politugal's avatar

Oh I know, I had to point that out to someone else in another of Simplicius's articles. I agree with everything else you wrote. "Elections" in the west especially, are nothing but theater and the westerners the dumbest of all, because their conditions just get worse, but they always do nothing to change anything.

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Mr House's avatar

You may enjoy this:

"Inverted totalitarianism is a theoretical system where economic powers like corporations exert subtle but substantial power over a system that superficially seems democratic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

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ChatterX's avatar

"Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

"When, through process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of the government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers.

"These truths are well known among our principal men, who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. By dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance.

"It is thus, by discrete action, we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished."

-Montagu Norman, Governor of The Bank Of England, (1920-1944) addressing the United States Bankers’ Association, October 1924.

And This is exactly why the most precise definition of Fascism is "Dictatorship of Financial Capital".

ieri.be/en/publications/wp/2019/juillet/banksters-and-warmongers

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Chevrus's avatar

I was under the impression that we are given the illusion of choice and thus rebellion is postponed…..

In other news I am not “gang affiliated” and I dont drink coke OR Pepsi.

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Politugal's avatar

It is an illusion of choice and despite the fact that nothing ever changes and living conditions just get worse in these so called "democracies", the people don't really care to do anything to change things, yet complain about all the problems. It's literal brain rot that these people, especially in the west, suffer from.

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Gisela's avatar

Like Narcissus staring at his reflection.

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HandleIt's avatar

I think it's pretty clear Islam will take over Europe (not the globalists thank god) They are only ones willing breed and die for what they believe in. Nihilism is a killer.

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Senokko's avatar

.and the globalists will come to an agreement with the "leaders of Islam" and will manage this poorly educated but aggressive "substance")) the white assholes will be put under the knife, but they are so "herbivorous" that they will not be able to resist.

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William Tyndale's avatar

White Nationalism will ultimately save Europe, but only after liberalism and Zionism are exterminated by Islam and Nationalism.

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MontyDog's avatar

Then I ran across a monster who was sleeping by a tree

And I looked and frowned and the monster was me

Bowie.

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Jullianne's avatar

The collective west is the term for this elite, not for a great mob of people. And it is justified because it is this elite that makes actual policy for this 'collective west' although that homogeneity is beginning to fray at the seams.

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Angelina's avatar

I do worry about "actors." We witness how a certain comedy actor is drowning Ukraine in blood. Same for some pathetic painter, who drowned all Europe in blood 80 years ago. Advising people not to "worry too much" about some trivial personalities thrown in the world arena by some dark forces, backing them up is a very dangerous offer!

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Haywood Jablome's avatar

That Austrian Painter pulled his country out of a moral, decadent Jew run debacle.

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Politugal's avatar

Dictators do very little alone. They can do a lot with the support of millions, either direct support or with silence. That's what the painter did many years ago and what the western cabal and its main nazi puppet Zelensky are doing now, with the help of their propaganda arm called "western media", keeping millions living in a lie, that ukrainian nazis are "amazing people", "innocent and fighting for their survival", while russians are considered "subhuman" not worthy of even being spoken to. That's how dictators do what they do, with the support or silence of millions. And I'm not sorry to say that I heavily blame the millions that support it or stay in silence, because again, dictators do nothing alone.

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Tell's avatar

For Soviet apologists, the point is to call globalists "Westerners" to smear the "capitalist West" - never mind that Poland, the Baltic States, etc, not to mention UKRAINE, are East Europeans and the strongest supporters of the war.

Never mind that Biden opened the borders to flood the U.S. with Third World immigrants, and he made sure to put as many non-Whites in office as possible, including as vice president even though there were far more competent and accomplished people to fill that post.

Never mind that the strongest supporters of the war in EVERY European country are Social Democrats and communists, who hate Russia for being conservative, while Western countries are now far more leftist. They wave the "rainbow flag" on pro-Ukraine parades. They hate that Russia has banned homosexual propaganda first in schools and then in the rest of society. They even say, "Ultimately this war is about LGBTQ rights."

They used conservative Russia as the bogeyman in 2016, claiming that they "hacked the election" for Trump, who was a racist fascist Russian agent.

That went on for four years. And the majority of leftists still believe it. Their hatred of their conservative bogeyman is extreme because of this.

Only a handful of leftists support Russia in this war. They pretend that it's still the Soviet Union. So they exploit the war to attack the other side as "the West" - no matter how many East Europeans or how many social democrats and communists, up to and including Biden, backed Ukraine's war from the start.

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Leo William Cullen's avatar

Oh look, another retarded American who doesn't know the difference between communism and social democracy. European communist parties have generally not supported NATO imperialism:

European Communist Parties' positions on the war in Ukraine vary significantly, with some aligning with Russia, others adopting more neutral or critical stances, and some even shifting their positions after the invasion. Traditional Communist Parties, like the Portuguese Communist Party (PCP) and the Greek Communist Party (KKE), have been criticized for their reluctance to condemn Russia or for blaming all parties involved in the conflict. In contrast, some New Left and Democratic Socialist parties, such as the Nordic parties, have been more assertive in their criticism of Russia and support for Ukraine.

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Politugal's avatar

Very good. Not often I find someone that actually understands political ideologies and their differences. And being a portuguese myself, I can vouch for the PCP remark, they are indeed the only party in Portugal that does not side with the nazis in Ukraine.

And by the way, it's not just the american supmreacist and racist idiot to which you replied that does not understand. In Portugal, PSD - partido Social democrata (Social Democratic party) is considered "right leaning"......just so you understand just how dumb portuguese are. The liberals are the new fascists and most people still haven't taken their head out of the sand to see the obvious.

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forceOfHabit's avatar

"What will you do when we’re gone?"

Celebrate?

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the long warred's avatar

We won’t even notice you’re gone, but whatever brightens your gloom.

Speaking of which, when we’re gone, do get accustomed to being forced properly, your actual habits. Properly and roughly handled without our hesitant Quaker fumbling, just as you like it.

Just in case anyone mistakes me for sympathetic; If I could make the choice to genocide the entire Eastern Hemisphere without Existential Risk to our 🇺🇸 Hemisphere I would without blinking and sleep like a baby.

…. And I’m just more candid than most of my countrymen.

Bye.

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forceOfHabit's avatar

Definitely celebrate.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@the long warred

"And I’m just more candid than most of my countrymen."

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Nope. If you really are good with the idea of deliberately killing off more than half of all people on earth, you aren't "more candid than most of (your) countrymen", you are barking mad.

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the long warred's avatar

No Billy, I’m just honest.

War isn’t going away.

We could come home.

However I’m glad you got the moral superiority tingle.

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Tedder130's avatar

To be clear, the ancient function of the State has always been the protection of the people. The first order is external defense against raiders and enemies. The second order is internal defense against criminals, cheats, and rich men exploiting the people. By taking our eyes off government, the latter have multiplied to where the US is governed by predators of the worst kind: neoliberal finance capitalists.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@Tedder130

"and rich men exploiting the people."

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What ever gave you the idea that this is a priority of the state?

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Tedder130's avatar

Not "the State", but this state we have now is a prime example of oligarchs taking over the state. Just look at the tax code just now before Congress. First, it is the state exercising its power of taxation and it prioritizes the wealthy.

Michael Hudson in THE DESTINY OF CIVILIZATION shows how the ancient kings of Rome took care of Rome's people, but the oligarchs kicked out the king and founded The Republic, which was an oligarchy (rich men) who plundered and exploited the people. This happens over and over in antiquity and is the central battle of civilization.

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Politugal's avatar

"What will you do when we’re gone?"

As already said by someone else, celebrate. You are the parasites, the terrorists, the evil doers of this world. Only with you and the rest of your disgusting country wiped out, turned into a wasteland, could the world actually be peaceful or close to it. Every day, you or someone from your country makes that very clear, that it's not just the "elites" in that country of idiots, that are evil., You, the "regular" people are evil too. Supremacist, fascist, elitist, snobs that think they are better than everyone else and so dumb that they think they are "democratic" and "free". Not to mention the behavior of your "people" in other countries, that think they own the place. Most disgusting people on the planet. I would cheer and party for a month, if you just disappeared for good. And the way you and your stupid "leaders" are doing things, that day may come.

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the long warred's avatar

Enjoy the party!

Honestly we’ll have forgotten you in days.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@the long warred

You and Politugal are giving me fantasies about locking the pair of you in a room with a couple of blunt objects, waiting for that outcome and then dropping the room into the Marianas trench.

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the long warred's avatar

Billy, if you want the decision power for instance to lock others in the room, or to drop others in a trench , you have to be in the room with the blunt objects.

Ain’t my rules, just reality.

(They don’t get blunter than nuclear weapons, to save you time. )

Since you want to be so serious: if we in America don’t get some distance and a lot of time off from the very different creatures in the Eastern Hemisphere there will be a slaughter to make those of the Mongols faint. We are too different and repellent to each other, including Europe. Be certain that they by their long practices of many millennia would do this without blinking, indeed thinking. They know no other world or way including Europe and yes England.

The entire point of the Americas- all the Americas- was to get away from them. Indeed the very first peoples of the Americas 20,000~ years ago walked across Ice and Tundra from Asia to escape them.

In folly we went back in 1917 and have yet to extricate ourselves.

If we don’t get a lot of distance and time off from them and their Iron Age Antics and morals we’ll fall to their level- as we have been- and then it’s a question of the strongest.

So my sentiments- which I earned and learned- are just an honest appraisal.

While I never said I spoke for my countrymen, just that I was more honest, I do have a feel for them…

East is East and West is West and we really should avoid each other.

To the end of peace I’d close every border.

Remember the Fallen, Memento Mori.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@Politugal

You are clearly no fun at parties.

Also, what are the chances that you can write so faciley in English, hold such views of us and yet have never been here to find out who we actually are?

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Denis's avatar

It's called mental illness, Billy. The man is fully unhinged, a functional idiot. I find his sort amusing.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

I hope this is the final offensive to crack the Ukrainian defence!

Most interesting if Uki forces are complaining over leadership not prioritizing to hit Russian FPV-teams. The tide is turning…

Agree on this:

”I suppose we’re getting closer and closer to full Skynet automation in the killing fields—it’s good that at least for once Russia has taken the initiative here rather than waiting to catch up.”

The Yolka used by the hundreds could be a way blind the defending forces so they can roll in with Tanks.

I has always said that the key fir defeating Ukraine is to reach Dneprpetrovsk and Dnieper itself. It will extend the contact lines to the maximum and make AFU unable to foresee whats come next. The last two years it have been quite easy to match the Russian incremental advance as the goal has been to ”free” the Oblasts (not cracking the enemy).

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Jullianne's avatar

Cracking a defensive line is not what this about. Why expend Russian lives unnecessarily? It is about drawing the line forward and wiping it out, over and over again.

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Victor's avatar

Exactly. Attrition, not territory. We in the West just can't help ourselves from thinking in terms of territorial advances. Attrition is not something we deal with easily as was clearly shown in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Jullianne's avatar

I don't think it is so much that west does not understand it, just wants to kick word dust over it. The western propaganda response to this effective attrition goes like this....

"The Russians are really losing because they are not winning fast enough".

Laughable, but it is also designed to provoke unrest within Russia.

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Victor's avatar

"The Russians are really losing because they are not winning fast enough".

That seems to be the opinion of many on this substack as well. ;-)

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Jullianne's avatar

I agree, Victor. Western propaganda is back in action at some last gasp at sparking unrest in Russia- a decisive own-goal- as the only way of clawing some victory from the imminent defeat which will swing into full view with the forthcoming grand offensive. Then it will impossible to run this argument and that last hope is lost. It is desperate stuff now.

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VHMan's avatar

I worry about “desperate”. Leaders who lose the protective cloak of propaganda and self-delusion and find themselves naked are capable of the destruction of the northern hemisphere.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Sometimes I suspect you to be anything but ”Julianne”.

This stubborn defense of hitting the head against the Ukraine defensive lines and calling it masterful strategy.

Russian tactics is not by choice. They have adapted to circumstances they realized had so negative impact on their way of warfare in the early stages of the War. They were forced to find another way of warfare.

Their strategy is by will - show US&World that we only drive out the enemy of our newly aquried Oblasts - nothing less, nothing more.

Same with the label: SMO. Ridiculous. It is a War now, the SMO turned nearly to a WW3, and we are not through yet. It is a calculation from Kreml that a SMO is not a War declared (they never declared War on Ukraine) and therefore it could be treated as minor inconvinience in the relation to other states.

Cracking of the defence is all what it is about. Saying other is not honouring the fallen.

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Jullianne's avatar

To paraphrase your argument: Russians should be flocking to an honourable death, not winning this war. Over the top, lemmings, go get 'em! Right out of the Graham playbook.

Because that is certainly what the Ukrainians are doing, but they don't have any other choice.

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Surferket's avatar

You're missing what Simplicius said in previous reports that the Russians are not charging head on but using recon teams, drones, to identify Ukie strong points and then use drones to wipe them out, or FAB if necessary. Then the Russians walk in.

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Jullianne's avatar

I was just dealing with a different point.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Que? Never wrote anything near that.

Who do you thinks has been slaughtered by AFU defence the last years?

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Jullianne's avatar

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. I did not say the Russian approach was loss free, nor that you were implying that straight defence is without value. But that is no good reason to throw caution to the wind and launch death wish assaults. That is what the Ukkies do. It is what their western handlers want.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

You dont listen. I didnt write that Russia should do any death wish assault.

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John Thomas's avatar

tbh, I don't think the Ukrainians are trying hard enough. Can they not take a lesson of total war from the Vietnamese and adapt it to Ukraine?

100% war effort, every man woman and child is digging trenches, tunnels and making small arms ammo and drones in their caves. Russia will have to kill every single Ukrainian to win - could Russia stomach that kind of war for 10 more years?

Just not sure why Ukraine has not done this already - if the war is about their vary survival, then make it look like that.

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Feral Finster's avatar

They have not had to.

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Robert's avatar

To make it a people's war, you need the full support of the population. The eastern oblasts voted to join Russia.

If Russia enters western Ukraine, they will be up against the total war you describe.

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HBI's avatar

I think the real issue is that Ukraine isn't Vietnam. Sure, an insurgency can be maintained, but it won't be anything like what happened in Southeast Asia. The last time it was tried in Ukraine, it was crushed in a few years.

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abcdefg's avatar

"Cracking of the defence is all what it is about. Saying other is not honouring the fallen."

So you either devour war fiction or Hollywood war movies. Russia, on the other hand, seem to have the winning strategy.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Your logic fails and your argumenting is not fair.

You cant fight a War without the clear objective of ”cracking the enemy defence”. Saying otherwise is out of this World.

You and Julianne are advocating a perpetual ”wiping the line” with no clear objective. Or this Turtle-strategy for ever? Dont you want this War to be over? Have not enough good men died?

Negating the fact that both Ukraine and Russia would be more than happy for a real Breaktrough (on either side) to get out of this Stalement is just stupid.

Wait and see.

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abcdefg's avatar

Cracking of the defence is not what this is about. That's war fiction. The Russians were happy with Minsk, happy with Istanbul. Their ONLY aim has been (up until recently anyway) to ensure that no threats emanate from Ukraine. It is their Achilles heel.

Their aim is PEACE.

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Denis's avatar

Darn it, Alphabet. What peace you talkin' about, son?

The aim ain't piece when you're at war, boy.

The aim is to kill, destroy and advance.

The aim is to achieve victory and defeat your enemy.

Cracking AFU defensive lines is exactly what's needed to force a surrender, not peace, ya hippie. lol

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Fiction? Wow.

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Denis's avatar

It's no use explaining the advantages of deep penetration pincer movements deep behind enemy lines to force a surrender to people who don't understand its purpose to confuse, disorient, and defeat an enemy. They lack the military tactical smarts. lol

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Feral Finster's avatar

Smarts or tactical understanding have nothing to do with it.

What we see here is just "my team good! them team bad!" logic. Whatever Russia does must by definition be wise, and if it doesn't seem to be, then it's just a headfake!

In fact, cognitive dissonance of the sort on display is seen in intelligent people, not stupid people, because intelligent people are better at symbol manipulation to get to a desired result.

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John Osman's avatar

Denis. The purpose of deep penetration pincers is to get inside your enemy's command loop, so that he's always reacting to what you did, not what you're doing. That way his C3 breaks down. And you can take risks because by the time he reacts, you're elsewhere.

It simply can't be done with the quality of ISTAR that both sides have in Ukraine. .

It's not that you're a military genius and everyone else is stupid it's that you want to fight in fashion that isn't possible at the moment.

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HandleIt's avatar

It's not a war sadly. In war you go after all political, commerce, and infrastructure that holds country together. That would include Zelensky Rada, banks, power, water. gas etc. (bomb them to stone age so to speak) but Putin thinks Ukrainians will be good Russians again one day if he treats them nice.

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Dhdh's avatar

or just keep sending missiles into that illegal jew state and watch the rats sue for peace....

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Victor's avatar

The goal for the last two years is the same as today - not to free the oblasts - that will come later - but to bleed and destroy the Western alliance. The irony being that it was the West who started this whole thing to bleed the Russians.

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Jullianne's avatar

Yes. Russia's objectives are increasingly maximalist supported by China here. This is not just a local conflict like Georgia was. This is about bringing down western US- european military ambitions in west Asia. That takes time.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

What maximalist objetives are you refering to?

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Jullianne's avatar

Oh just the re-ordering of the entire security architecture in west Asia, which can have as maximilist a definition as Russia will increasingly give it, if the west continues to push back and push on.

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abcdefg's avatar

It was a psyop from the beginning. The West really did believe Russia was likely to collapse given a good kick. The level of competence in Western leadership is certainly at an all time low. Conversely the competition seem to have very capable leadership. This won't end well for the West unless they can realign themselves with reality.

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Jullianne's avatar

Yes. The west under Biden was sold on the Ukrainian lie that Russia was weak and corrupt and now was the time to topple it. They never thought they would have a real fight on their hands and especially not one that the RF would win!

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Biden was sold on the lie that Russia was weak? Oh poor living-dead Biden was fooled by the Ukrainians?. No trace, of all the instigating and manipulating US Deep State with Nuland&Co did in Ukraine even before 2014, in your argumentation. Sigh.

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Jullianne's avatar

It is still true even given US collusion although the security agencies throughout the western alliance have been accused of over-reliance on Ukrainian intel, especially with the infighting now breaking out.

Hearing what you want to hear has always been a problem.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

West Deep State Intelligence has indeed misinterpreted (on purpose) all what is said and done in Russia. Intelligence used to collect facts and present to the Leaders. Churchill was one of the first leader that created an active terror-driven agency under his own control, the SOE.

Dulles and his CIA even dared to fool US presidents and then shoot them in the head.

Todays Intelligence are agenda-driving entities without control from the Political leadership.

They fooled Trump under his first tenure but now he walks and talks as if they never existed. Seeing him press the SA Ramaphosa was really fun. In my country they are aghast about Trumps behaviour and says nothing about killed white farmers and the racism against whites.

Biden on the other hand did know very well what he, Obongo, Hellary and Nuland has done in Ukraine.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

Didn't we see this before in Iraq ? Iirc a certain Mr Chalabi (?) led the US and Coalition of the Willing to believe that their troops would be warmly welcomed, handed flowers by Iraqi women in gratitude for their liberation from the evil clutches of Saddam and so on. Our (UK) Newspapers and nightly TV News were full of it: shock and awe, Tomahawks flying through windows, wholesale death and destruction. Then, later, the IEDs started going off, and the limbless, PTSD destroyed wounded and body bags started returning home. They pretty soon stopped landing them at Wootton Bassett, where the publicly visible flag draped coffins became a daily occurrence and started landing at RAF Northolt instead to massage the optics. Then, eerily, it all went quiet.

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abcdefg's avatar

Ahmed Chicago School of Economics Chalabi the famous embezzling banker.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The Iraq War achieved its aim, which was to remove Iraq as a threat to Israel.

The United States has subsequently learned that nation-building is expensive and tedious. Far cheaper and easier to simply break things. See, e.g., Libya and Syria.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

Feral, i also believe his main "crime" was offering to sell Oil in currencies other than the US$

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Martin's avatar

Exactly. I remember the much-hyped 2023 AFU offensive that crashed headfirst into Russia’s fortified defenses. The West actually believed their own propaganda—that Russian troops would drop their weapons and flee at the sight of Bradleys and Abrams. They bought into the SBU’s fairy tales and MI6’s absurd reports. Reality hit hard

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Angelina's avatar

This tempting idea of Russia being a "colossus with feet of clay" fooled the West for centuries at their own peril. Sweden forever lost its status of a great power in 1708 near Poltava (Ukraine) when Peter the Great defeated Swedish King Charles XII, who fled to Turkey. Come to think about it wth Sweden was doing in the Poltava's steppe? The West got really an odd sense of geography:-)

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VHMan's avatar

I like the understatement “odd sense of geography”. 🙂

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Glasshopper's avatar

This was a sanctions war. No serious person ever believed Ukraine would win a real war. That's why all the serious people were shut out of the public debate from the early days and replaced with narrative salesmen.

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Politugal's avatar

Indeed, that's my view as well. The west thought the sanctions alone would collapse Russia. When that didn't work, they started sending everything and the kitchen sink to the nazis in Ukraine. When that didn't work, they continued sanctions and even more kitchen sinks...and continued repeating the process, however, they are already de-militarized also and can't keep up the pace anymore.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

I differ on that but lets say you are right.

Russia is calculating, since the failed SMO and the entrance of 35 countries supporting Ukraine and sanctioning Russia, to reverse the ”bleeding” and destroy EU, NATO and the Atlantic friendship?

The whole ”SMO” is now something different. Russia is calculating that EU will crack and big states like Germany, France and little UK will spiral into chaos. That NATO will somehow vaporize when US abandons Ukraine. After that calamity, Russia can walk into Kiev and make whatever decisions they want?

First. They could not know Trump would a) win the election. b) ditch Ukraine.

Second. They couldnt forsee that ”West” would send almost all their tanks and artillery to Ukraine. And is it bleeding or just get rid of old material?

Three. How can Russia be sure that West will crack? It is only Ukrainian and Russian dying in the field. (I dont count the Mercs).

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Victor's avatar

Bleeding or just getting rid of old material? - Both. Much of what the West has is old material, and they don't have the industrial capacity to restore their supplies with newer material. What new technology they have is often being tested on the battlefield, but there are only limited quantities of these. I said "destroy" - what I mean by that is the ultimate breakup of the alliance - EU and NATO - by producing a political environment where impatience with the war and depletion of resources cause immense internal pressures on the political will of the members of these alliances to maintain strength and economic viability. It is not the countries themselves that Russia is seeking to break, but their alliances so that in the end Russia can agree a new security architecture on a nation by nation basis.

The end for Russia has always been the same - a new European security architecture to protect all indiscriminately.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

The only new security architecture I see forming and coming is a militaristic EU, using 20% of their state budgets on offensive war material. The 5% of BNP is effectively 15-30% of the State budget of each country. And Russia has to respond to that with even more men&material. Both sides will lose in the end.

The goal of Putin was always to do business with the West. To integrate and influence Europe in a friendly way. Schröder did a god job with Nordstream. They even did business with France ordering two Mistral-class Helicopter carriers. All was going god….

It was the creepy little UK and evil peacekeeper Obama who derailed it all with the Coup in Ukraine 2014 with the multiple goals of securing Minerals and snatching Crimea from Russia.

France stopped the delivery and the endless sabotage against the companys building Nordstream 2 started.

And Russia/Putin couldnt do a thing. Putin has said that they hadnt the resources and abilities in 2014. It took 20 years to rebuild strength.

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Victor's avatar

They can't afford it and they know - just wait - you'll never see that money materialise and the pressure on those governments will be immense as their energy costs will not support the industrialisation needed to advance those needed armament industries, esp as that money will be competing with the civilian economy.

The goal of Putin is not doing business with the West - he prefers to but that is not his goal - he can prosper without it as he is doing today. His real goal, and it has always been so, is to stop NATO advances through a new European security architecture.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Could be. There is no need of any security architecture other against the enemy from within. I have Bagdhad 2.0 outside my window each day living in one of the infested cities in the Western Europe.

EU&NATO cant do a shit about Russia and likewise I am not scared about Russias ability to ram the gates of Brussel HQ.

In a couple of years we will have machetes flying and sliced throats in every European city. It is unstoppable.

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Politugal's avatar

Really ? And how do you suggest EU does that ? Throwing money at the "problem" won't solve it. Industrial production, in this case military one, requires a lot of energy, energy that EU doesn't have anymore. They can barely sustain the civilians, much less high intense military production. Plus raw materials, european countries lack many of them and countries like Russia and China that have plenty, won't make their lives easy.

And finally, competent and knowledgeable workforce. There is no such thing in Europe. You have a lot of "managers" and "feminist studies" majors in Europe, but not that many engineers and people capable of working in highly specialized factories. This takes many years to achieve.

So the militaristic EU is a pipe dream, that will simply wreck the little EU countries have left, but given how dumb europeans are, I'm sure they go down that path anyway.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

And if you read all of it I said they will lose. No one can afford to throw away that much money. And as you say, there is no workforce for it.

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

Correct. Luckily the Euro-Nazis can still work in the theme park they've become. Generations of Europeans, marching off to yet another stupid war to defend their imperial religion. Entropy finally wins. Game-set-match...the unrelenting lies are being called out. The emperor has no clothes. Who knew you needed an industrial base to make the weapons they crave? Stormer, Macaroni and Merz, the traitorous war salesman from Black Rock-straight outta a Monty Python sketch. Putin and the Russians come along to hand them yet another defeat.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Not to mention, people. Europeans societies are some of the oldest on the planet.

Old people =/= soldiers. You need young men for that. Lots of young, able bodied, tough men.

Not only do europeans not have kids, europeans are the biggest wimps in human history. Sort of like what happened when Austria-Hungary tried two or three times to invade Serbia in 1914-15, with disastrous results.

"These were men who had always slept in beds."

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Feral Finster's avatar

To be fair, no amount of money will make the geriatric metrosexuals of europe into soldiers.

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Denis's avatar

It gets more interesting if they recruit expendable seniors to man static forward positions whose only mission is to hold the line..

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Robert's avatar

The new EU military won't count for much if Russia succeeds in gaining the 4 oblasts, declares the SMO over, and let's the EU know that any attempt to conquer any Russian territory will be met by nuclear weapons.

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MontyDog's avatar

Or Oreshniks on the command centres and the cabal's luxury bunkers. Putin has specifically warned them.

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Jullianne's avatar

The west has cracked. It is over bar the clean up although that will still be bloody. No magical foresight required.

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abcdefg's avatar

Hoping your enemy collapses isn't much of a strategy. Oh that's right, it's the NATO strategy in Ukraine.

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Politugal's avatar

You should, because thousands of NATO troops were killed in Ukraine already.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

4000 is 1% of the 400 000 KIA Ukraine has. Even if it is 16 000 dead it is only 4% of total loss. They are not missed, they are not reported in their home countrys - no effect at all on public opinion. Just fertilizers.

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Politugal's avatar

Ukrainian KIA is much higher than that, but sure NATO casualties are not up to the same level as Ukraine's, but thousands of casualties is still nothing to ignore. Poland alone has more than 3000 dead in Ukraine. USA, UK, France, Germany combined also have a couple of thousand, plus other european countries. Again nothing to ignore. Plus these numbers are based on the tracking of some channels of the deaths of so called "foreign mercs", which most are simply NATO troops posing as mercs, which means many more are dead and simply were not reported, like those reduced to smoldering piece of meat or vaporized. Not to mention those that the nazis killed themselves, because they refused to be cannon fodder, and we have many examples of that too.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

…and you are arguing for the sake of arguing. It is better to discuss things that matters.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I keep seeing these claims, but I am going to have to see some firm evidence for this before I believe it.

A few deaths can be covered up, a "training accident" here, a "helicopter crash" there, but thousands?

Where are the hospitals full of wounded NATO troops? Where are the NATO prisoners paraded about? Where are the wives, sisters, girlfriends of "missing" men demanding answers?

It's the dog that didn't bark.

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Politugal's avatar

You haven't been following the events then. Every time Russia strikes HIMARS trucks, Patriot AD and other types of more specialized NATO equipment, there are NATO troops inside them. The only thing ukrainians do, is probably drive the truck and press a button or two. Everything else is done by NATO troops, that die when Russia hits them. Then you have the "mercs" of which thousands have been killed and of which many of those thousands were NATO soldiers. Plenty of them we even know their names and ranks in their military. Russians on the ground typically share that information when they find dog tags, passports, etc of these US, UK, France, Germany, etc "mercenaries". When there are major missile strikes against "foreign mercenaries" gatherings, dozens if not hundreds of them are killed at a time. And we see the scrambling of NATO planes taking them from Poland (they are sent to Poland by ground means or low alttitude flights and then flown from Poland, to Germany, France, etc). Some NATO troops have been shown, being interrogated by Russia. Russia shares what it wants, not what you want.

Yes, thousands. Poland even had a cemetery prepared only for deaths of its soldiers in Ukraine. Also, I answer your questions with other questions: Are you following every USA, french, UK, polish, german, etc social media to find out which girlfriends, wives are complaining about their missing men ? Are you following them in person to know those details ? You aren't and you never will. Plus you seem to be assuming that these wives and girlfriends won't accept the excuses of "sudden death", "training accidents" that they get every time. and you would be wrong about it, because they do accept it. Remember these are people from USA and Europe, dumb as bricks. Whatever an authority figure tells them, they believe in it 100%.

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MontyDog's avatar

Over 500 corpses were found in a disused mine shaft in Poland a year ago.

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GM's avatar
May 22Edited

>The goal for the last two years is the same as today - not to free the oblasts - that will come later - but to bleed and destroy the Western alliance

Which is pure idiocy.

The only one being bled and destroyed is Russia and if Ukraine had been taken over fully with proper and decisive action in February-March 2022, or any time since then, there would be no proxy through which to do it.

Remember, tanks and artillery have very little relevance to a war between Russia and the US/NATO.

Missiles, jets, submarines, surface fleets and air defense matter there.

Plus forward deployment.

The only items on this list that Russia has advantage in are air defense and the quality of its missiles (but the INF and START treaties made sure it has no major advantage on quantity, so in the end it does not matter all that much), and Russian air defense is what is being attrited in the current war.

Meanwhile the forward deployment imbalance turned from bad to absolutely catastrophic. Given that missiles are now actually launched into Russia from Sumy...

That is a direct consequence of the insane policy of doing attrition with no end in sight instead of quickly eliminating the proxy.

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Jullianne's avatar

Back to an old favourite song, GM: The west is not losing, Russia is because it is not winning fast enough. Despite all appearances and the imminent US pull out, the west is on course for victory. Russia will bleed out. Hey, ho.

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HandleIt's avatar

Trumps not going anywhere. ISR and money and Weapons will be provided until at least mid June He might not get a weapons package again but Trump is making EU step up and they are I bet ISR and Starink will never be pulled which is biggest aid US gives. Letting Ukraine know exactly where Russians are and have perfect communication both talk and for drones.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Congress will pass anything Trump tells them to.

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HandleIt's avatar

Exactly this. Russia thinks it's clever with war of attrition which they are barely winning vs Ukraine but West is really running the attrition game on Russia. Already killed like 100-200K prime fighting russians killing it's missile stocks both offensive and AA/AD. West suffered none and NATO is building up to enter they just need Ukraine to give them more time which they will get since Putin refuses to fight a war. Eventually the 1 billion people 40 trillion economies will overtake Russia. When they are ready they will strike hard and at once destroying most subs, ships, and air bases.

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Victor's avatar

Russia is now producing more armaments and ammo than the entire West combined - they have been preparing for a war with NATO since day one and have acquired a massive inventory that is still being added to - you are living in lalaland if you think Russia is running short of missiles - or any other weapon for that matter. One billion obese slobs and 40 trillion fake money - that is your Western strength. And what will they strike hard with? Their beer cans and half eaten chicken wings? Wow! You not only don't know Russia - you don't know your own people.

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HandleIt's avatar

Best weapons are not given to Ukraine. Like a whole fleet of F35s F22s and European fighters and bombers. JASSAMs, Tomahawks etc. I'm not sayin West could win right now either but they are building up and time will tell if Russian "patience" paid off or just invited a big war.

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Politugal's avatar

Wrong. Even Houthi radars detect F-35s. Against russian air defenses, order of magnitudes better, F-35s would be shot down like flies. Same for F-22s. Same for "european fighters", which are even worse. As for Tomahawks, those are strategic weapons, missiles that can carry a nuclear warhead. If that happens, Russia has every right to wipe out the USA from the planet and everyone would cheer.

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Politugal's avatar

LOL, another NAFO fool.

Explain how can Ukraine last without the support from the west ? It can't. So for Ukraine to give NATO time, Ukraine still needs to get more weapons. Weapons that the west cannot provide. Because their military industry is unable to provide it. Plus creating more factories takes years. Training people to work there, takes years also. Plus they need raw materials, many of which the west doesn't have. Plus, military production means intense energy consumption, energy that many countries in the west do not have anymore. West has no ability to match Russia let alone surpass it in military production in the short to medium term and it's doubtful it ever will even in the long term, especially considering that if things get even worse and the west continues escalating, China's massive industrial production will start helping Russia and there's nothing the west can do against that. The west will be crushed.

Also, if it comes to that, Russia's allies will step in and they will be 2.8 billon people vs the west's 1 billion. Also using GDP as a comparison is laughable at best. You clearly are propagandized by western media, that always puts GDP numbers to compare economies. Look at where that led you, to shrinking economies, recession and even worse things to come in the future.

And of course, the very last stage when we reach nuclear war, the west has no means to defend against what Russia can fire at them, while Russia has the means to shoot down what the west fires at it and Russia is the largest nuclear power in the world...so not sure in what scenario the west can "win", but that's NAFO people for you. USA and Europe still exist, because Putin and Xi Jinping aren't psychopaths like USA and european "leaders" are. Because if they were, and given all the crap the west does by creating wars and supporting terrorists and nazis, they would be a nuclear wasteland for a while now.

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GM's avatar

>Explain how can Ukraine last without the support from the west

It's not a Ukrane-Russia war over Ukraine, it is a West-Russia war over Russia itself, in which Ukraine is just the battering ram, fully disposable, and only the first such prepared tool.

If you don't understand that fundamental fact, you don't understand anyting about this war.

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HandleIt's avatar

Not a NAFO but since you gave a decent reply after needless insult I'll respond. Germany alone manufactures way more than Russia. The NATO countries just need to apply to military hardware which they are doing. We shall see if they can catch up before Ukraine collapses. And nukes? dont be silly this will be conventional. I don't think leaders are into murder suicide. Just pawns will fight. And industry and money. And if Russia's slow roll was wise which is enticing West in whole hog.

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Politugal's avatar

Manufactures way more than Russia in what ? We are talking about military production. Germany does not in any way produce more than Russia. And now more than ever, it never will, thanks to its "green" policies.

As for nukes and that being silly, you clearly do not understand the level of psychopaths that exist in the west. Also, the only country to ever use nukes against another, was the USA. So you can bet that the threat of nuclear war, is never something coming from Russia or China, but rather the true axis of evil: USA, Europe, NATO

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Feral Finster's avatar

"Explain how can Ukraine last without the support from the west ? It can't. "

It isn't supposed to.

NATO will intervene, once the number of Ukrainians to soak up Russian munitions runs low.

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Politugal's avatar

It won't, because it can't. It has no ability to sustain long term war. NATO is about "having more than whoever they attack, so that the fighting lasts the least amount of time". This is also why USA and its vassals in Iraq had to bribe Iraqi generals to not fight, otherwise the "quick defeat of Iraq" wouldn't be possible and even then, in the few places that they didn't surrender, it took months for USA and its vassals to achieve anything. It's all propaganda that you clearly fall for. In a conventional war, NATO is just bark and no bite, which is why it needs proxies.

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Politugal's avatar

And the russians are already achieving that. They wanted to de-militarize Ukraine, but they are in effect de-militarizing the entire NATO, which is quite a feat.

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Feral Finster's avatar

"I hope this is the final offensive to crack the Ukrainian defence!"

Wishful thinking. Several times a week, we hear that Ukraine is really collapsing this time.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Indeed. Therefore a I used ”hope”.

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Natalia's avatar

"Distancing"? Per Brian Berletic,

"UK Continues Implementing US Trump/Hegseth Directive vs Russia With New Sanctions

▪️The UK is announcing further sanctions and actions aimed at depriving Russia of revenue for energy exports;

▪️This is per US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth's February 12 directive demanding, "lower energy prices," and "more effective enforcement of energy sanctions" to target Russia's economy, even as the US attempts to now appear "split" from Europe regarding sanctions and continued proxy war;

▪️US policy remains to shift, not end, its proxy war with Russia to Europe as part of a "division of labor" as it seeks to strategically sequence a confrontation with China first and deal with Russia later;

https://www.defense.gov/News/Speeches/Speech/Article/4064113/opening-remarks-by-secretary-of-defense-pete-hegseth-at-ukraine-defense-contact/

"“…Europe must provide the overwhelming share of future lethal and nonlethal aid to Ukraine. This means: Donating more ammunition and equipment. Leveraging comparative advantages. Expanding your defense industrial base. 2% is not enough; President Trump has called for 5%, and I agree”

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HandleIt's avatar

Brian seems to be only one who get's this Kabuki theater. Everyone else is making 100s of videos of he said she said. Maybe youtube $ helps them not see US/EU are on the same team.

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Richard V's avatar

Brian Berletic has consistently been on the money. His thesis: policy is formulated by Think Tanks who are funded by Wall Street, Big Oil and the MIC. These Think Tanks translate the interests of elites into policy. These policies are pursued by the government regardless of party or president. Thus the remarkable continuity over decades. Politicians up to and including the president are likewise funded by these same interests. The notion that Trump is struggling against the Deep State has always been absurd. The Deep State indeed contains factions, including factions in the FBI and security apparatus who betrayed him in favor of Clinton--and he is determined to take them down. But to say that Trump's collection of oligarchs and finance & corporate types is opposed to the Deep State is ridiculous. They are part of the Deep State and represent the interests of Big Money. They certainly are not on the side of democracy or ordinary Americans. Off loading Ukraine is a tactical adjustment at this point in time. The effort to undermine Russia continues.

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Victor's avatar

It is this pursuit of corporate profits that not only lies behind all this geopolitical aggression, but also is its Achille's heel as it, in the long term, results in cost overruns, lower productivity, lower quality products, depletion of resources, a fractured political scene, both domestic and internationally, and ultimately self-destructive infighting amongst themselves.

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Glasshopper's avatar

Surely, if you read Think Tank White Papers long enough you will find a match?

There must be millions of pages of such documents that never happened.

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Richard V's avatar

Brian sticks to the biggies: Rand, Heritage Foundation. The authors are often pulled into the administration. Example: Peter Navarro Trump's top trade guy wrote the chapter on trade in Heritage Foundation's Project 2025. I regularly ran into Rand guys while working in the Pentagon.

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Victor's avatar

I think Rand is the biggie for both parties, favouring the MIC primarily. Heritage mainly is more politically oriented towards ~Republicans. And then there is AIPAC - for both parties and most of the states level politicos.

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John Smith's avatar

On the money there, Richard.

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Dhdh's avatar

1488 tanks brian will never name the jew....

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jsarnak's avatar

It is even worse than that. He says the innocent Jew is forced into everything they do by the United States

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PFC Billy's avatar

Yup, that sounds like a good algorithm to describe the version of USA I've been living in the past 6+ decades

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MontyDog's avatar

Instead of draining the swamp he not only dived into it but swims around happily in the muck.

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Opport Knocks's avatar

I have been hearing about this pending US "confrontation with China" for at least a decade.

Have any of the US Think Tanks like Rand game theorized what that conflict would look like? A land or sea based invasion is impossible, so what is left. Disrupting trade and lobbing missiles from a distance accomplishes what exactly?

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Richard V's avatar

The US gets creamed in every war game. Their only play is to try to isolate China economically and subvert it internally. They'll continue to try but there's not a chance of either of these happening given the strength of their economy and the CPC, and their access to Russian resources.

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marcjf's avatar

Remember the big 3 week wargame of the US vs Iran which ended up after one day with the USN at the bottom of the Persian Gulf? It had to be re-run with the US Marine General posing as the Iranian Commander reassigned.

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Richard V's avatar

General Paul Van Riper. Millenium Challenge.

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Glasshopper's avatar

John Helmer thinks the greater Israel project is really a MEGA project. Make Empire Great Again. They plan to sew up the Middle East and hit China's energy sources. The reluctance to attack Iran is due to the belief the country is heading for collapse, and will soon fall from internal dissent. They plan to flip the Mullahs for a Western friendly, anti BRICS regime.

Sounds unlikely to succeed IMO.

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Victor's avatar

I think the US gets creamed with all three - Russia, China and Iran. And now, Yemen... ;-)

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abcdefg's avatar

That boat sailed a long time ago. And it is currently being pirated by some angry Russians.

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Surferket's avatar

The table exercises said US will lose but the Chinese will be frightened off from their "invasion". Yup. Yup.

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Gary's avatar

I recall Beletic was suggesting the US would blockade China rather than engage them in a war in their backyard, ie cut off their seaborne trade. The US Navy is apparently better suited to this long range game than the Chinese. This would reduce oil flows and of course export income.

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Eclavdra's avatar

That would be the strategy the USA is likely to use. China has the advantage within the first Island chain, but beyond that, USA's ability to project military force trumps China. Since China would have to target military facilities in Japan and Philippines amongst other places, American strategies rely on them being drawn into battle too.

China is the 9th largest oil producer. Along with their Russian neighbor and an increasingly diversified energy portfolio, the long range blockade strategy has some holes. China pushing the USA out of Korea would be a very real risk as would a Civil War in the Philippines if push came to shove.

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

China has complete control of the entire West Pacific. Trust me, I have to study this stuff.

Nothing moves under, on or above the waves without Chinese forbearance.

https://herecomeschina.substack.com/p/all-your-west-pacific-belong-china

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Eclavdra's avatar

Beyond the first island chain? Maybe. Wouldn't be the first time I underestimated Chinese capabilities.

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HBI's avatar

We all do. It's not been proven in practice yet. When it does, I suspect we'll all be surprised.

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Velociraver's avatar

Expect US bases, vessels, infrastructure, ELF comms, DOD food and water supplies and POL to be sabotaged before US fleets even depart from port. Chuna isn't going to fight the war USA plans for.

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HBI's avatar
May 23Edited

US is ill equipped for any war at all. I've been ringing the bell internally about our inability to produce materiel. The lack of military manpower is even more egregious. The plans appear to assume we'll be given a year and a half or two years to retool for war as we were in WWII. Evaluate that concept on your own. Best learn Mandarin now.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@Gary

And provoke some of the fastest pipeline build outs ever seen...

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Andrew's avatar

No, Brian Berletic never "suggested" a US naval blockade of China. The US will eventually try to use Taiwan and other proxies/sacrificial pawns (Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia) in the Asia Pacific region to "extend" China, just as they used Ukraine to "extend" Russia.

We are in 2025, the US does not fight direct wars against peer or near-peer adversaries anymore.

The US war against China began decades ago, btw.

As I wrote before, check the Wikipedia articles for "hybrid war" and "Gerasimov doctrine".

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JimG's avatar

Planning on a war with China is really stupid and I don't know why people keep saying it is coming. US can't win - all they can do is kill us all or destroy OUR wafer foundries. We own the Taiwanese chip foundries (traded in New York) and these supply all Western chips for cars, washing machines, and weapons from Japan to Vietnam. If China hit these and they would shut down Western manufacturing world-wide. This war thinking is why we lose all our wars. Yes, let's spend trillions on defense so we can win through strength when No. Korea can destroy the US with an EMP. No war with China. Maybe war with No. Korea, and now they are tied to the Russians. Forget war. Chose peace.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@Opport Knocks

Ethnically targeted biological warfare with designer organisms & custom viruses.

Sorry, various East Asian immigrants & descendants living in USA, the kind of people who think this way won't stop for your being collateral damage- Just ask "the long warred".

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Chevrus's avatar

It seems possible that the RF and China along with their allies will simply leave the western bloc trading system. At that point sanctions are irrelevant.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@Chevrus

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"It seems possible that the RF and China along with their allies will simply leave the western bloc trading system. At that point sanctions are irrelevant."

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That could be a "best case" response for humanity in general, assuming that the BlackRock et alia management didn't demand escalation to a global total war in response.

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Chevrus's avatar

Perhaps they understand that the world isn’t much smaller place and adversaries have a much longer reach

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PFC Billy's avatar

I wonder how long until someone at corporate does a profits vs. costs analysis of actually GETTING ALONG with the rest of the world vs. beating them into line?

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Chevrus's avatar

This would be interesting….I’d wager that cooperation and trading might just win that comparison, BUT, there is the element of control power and manipulation. It’s harder to put a price tags on that, especially if the players are already bag-deep in plunder.

I’d guess that knowing one’s bunker is not truly safe and that modern weapons systems have unprecedented range and accuracy might shift the equation a little…..

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CHUCKY's avatar

HURRY UP, RUSSIA!! The only viable end to this is the unconditional surrender of Ukulele. There will never be a negotiated end, not should there be, for as long as there's an entity there called "Ukulele," there will always be problems for Russia.

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HandleIt's avatar

If you're in a hurry you're watching wrong war. I doubt Ukraine has three more years left but you never know as Putin started a war he refuses to fight like one. What ever happened to taking out electrical grid? Havent seen an attack in months. That new commander doesnt make a dimes worth of difference with Putin micromanaging General Staff.

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abcdefg's avatar

Since when did you become the ultimate arbiter of military strategy? What's your day job? Uber driver?

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HandleIt's avatar

Just asking inconvenient questions. Go over to Russian Exceptionalist blogs/stacks like Martyanovs ad other cheerleaders if you don't like it.

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abcdefg's avatar

Martyanov sucks, questions are good. Glib statements about Putin that have no foundation in reality suck also.

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HandleIt's avatar

Many commentators have said Putin is micromanaging and not going all in like General staff wants/wanted to. Even at the beginning like Zinni to Bush, Gerasimov told Putin it's not enough troops and didnt want to do it.

And we all know what running a real war is. More like Medvedev in Georgia. Putin's kids gloves is notorious everyone complains and he throws people in jail who criticizes it..

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Velociraver's avatar

Realpolitik is a thing, you should check it out.

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Chevrus's avatar

These idiots swarm the comments sections everywhere and the message is always the same…dunno who they are trying to convince but it seems like a waste of time. But then what else do they really have to do ?

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Galina Lewan's avatar

Maybe backward Russians don’t want to learn from the American superior lead on “collateral damages”? In WWII, the American army killed about 250,000 Nazi troops but 600,000-900,000 civilians. The Soviet Army killed 4-5 million Nazi soldiers. If they followed the US proportionality there might have been no civilians left.

In the Iraq war, 15,000 civilians were wiped out on the way to Baghdad, the infrastructure destroyed.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Does Russia want to be nice or do they want to win?

Their enemies already have chosen.

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Denis's avatar

I've been saying all along, Russia must force a surrender and stop posturing.

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Paulo Aguiar's avatar

Let’s drop the moral theater and call it what it is: the U.S. is quietly edging away from Ukraine because it’s finally recognizing the limits of power projection, and the cost of pretending otherwise. Washington’s hesitation isn’t confusion; it’s calculation. You don’t keep doubling down on a losing hand when the dealer across the table has more chips, better cards, and zero incentive to fold.

The U.S. didn’t sign up for a forever war to bleed out on the steppes of Donbas. It wanted leverage over Russia, not a meat grinder it has to bankroll endlessly while its own domestic priorities crumble. And now that Moscow’s advances are accelerating and European “coalitions of the willing” are floating pipe-dream interventions post-ceasefire, it’s clear why a truce is a non-starter for the Kremlin. From their standpoint, it’s a geopolitical booby trap, designed to freeze gains, flood Ukraine with NATO-lite boots, and prolong the conflict on artificial life support.

That’s not peace. That’s containment masquerading as diplomacy.

So yes, the U.S. is stepping back, not out of weakness, but out of strategic self-preservation. The calculus is shifting. Ukraine was a proxy play, but it’s becoming a liability with no off-ramp. And when Trump or any other D.C. powerbroker talks about “walking away,” it’s not betrayal. It’s realism. Cold, transactional, interest-based realism. The kind that defines global power moves, not idealistic press conferences.

History will remember this not as a retreat but as a pivot. And anyone still clinging to the idea of “winning” this war for Kyiv better be ready to pay for it themselves, because Washington's patience and checkbook is running out.

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Jullianne's avatar

Yes.

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Laura Noncomplier's avatar

Well the US is also weak and has essentially lost its proxy war

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abcdefg's avatar

Well said. It also seems Trump is far less beholden to the MIC than the previous Blinken administration.

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Alan's avatar

I am afraid you are incorrect about POTUS being less entangled with the MIC/Deep State. At the very least, he must be concerned that they are an existential risk, should he appear to be about to impoverish them. MIC kickbacks, the Jobs for Generals program, campaign donations, lobbyist perks and junkets, jobs for relatives, frequent travel with empty suitcases going but full suitcases returning is the grease that coats the palms keeping the US political machine functioning and grinding out sanctions.

Winding one lucratively expensive war down is not a problem, but only as long as other existing projects ramp up. The MIC doesn't mind being paid by dumb vassal states instead of DC. Don't forget there is also the $140 Billion Sentinel project in the early stages to replace all US ICBMs and you can bet that price tag will bloat.

Not long ago, President Trump's DOGE euphoria mused about cutting the Defense Department in half. But now, he plans on raising the budget to over $1 Trillion next year. Might the Defense Dept. and the MIC have made their disappointment palpable after hearing of the original "plan" to cut the budget o less than $500 Billion?

Or one can start new solid-gold boondoggles to convince the Deep State & MIC not to eliminate you, like the "Golden Shield", estimated" to cost $175B over 3 years, which will surely cost much more money over a longer period of time if it ever hopes to be able to hit incoming Hypersonic missiles. Given over a decade of failure trying to develop Hypersonics, how will the MIC ever prove it can even hit 1 hypersonic in 10?

It has no Hypersonics to test the Golden Dome.

The fact that the MIC exists and it is larger than the next 10 largest countries makes it impossible to ignore, if you are President.

And if it succeeds it won't stop the existing loitering stealthed nuclear powered drone underwater subs, carrying tsunami- creating nuclear warheads that can flood the US east and west coast without ever presenting a target in the atmosphere.

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abcdefg's avatar

Trump negotiated an end to the Afghanistan war, tried twice to pull out of Syria and is now attempting to stop, or at least slow down the Ukraine war. Are you really saying he is more beholden to the MIC than the previous neocon administration? As you say, every POTUS supports the MIC, like Catholics do the pope. That doesn't mean there aren't very substantial differences. Trump is an outlier, clearly demonstrated by years of attempts to bring him downby all means possible.

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Politugal's avatar

Not really. We know for a while now that the "end to the Afghanistan war" (a war created by USA itself) was done in order to focus on the Ukraine project and support the nazis as much as possible. So Trump was really only following the neocon agenda. The Syria part I do not even believe in, since Trump ordered strikes in that region, effectively showing that despite his words, he was committed to continuing another war started by USA. And to be honest, I still think he did a "better job" during his first term, than he is doing during his second term. In his second term his words never match his actions and his actions have been of escalation almost everywhere, not to mention the people he surrounds himself with: all neocons. If during the first term one could argue he was just naive, now it's clearly his choice, once again showing that he is in fact following the neocon / MIC's plans since the start. Trump is no outlier and he escalated this war in Ukraine, during his first term. And while claiming to want peace, Trump has always sided with the nazis in Ukraine, despite looking like a lapdog of the nazi dictator Zelensky. And after 4 years of being called a nazi, a fascist, Trump should be the first to want to stay way from supporting actual nazis, but here we are...Trump has not stopped sending weapons to Ukraine, nor intelligence, nor ammunition, nor has it stopped selling weapons to europeans that then send them to the nazis in Ukraine. Absolutely NOTHING that has been proposed by USA, the creator and provoker of this war, even comes close to punish the nazis and go towards russian demands. In fact as we've seen many times already, in just 3 months, and even after the disrespect from nazi dictator Zelensky on the White House, Trump talks about sanctions against Russia and pressuring Russia, but never about stopping aid to Ukraine. Not a single time. Trump escalated with Houthis, escalated with Iran, escalated with China...escalated in Gaza, going even further than pedo Biden, by wanting to displace 2 million people, easily one of the most evil things ever...that is Trump's current position ...Trump doesn't want peace, his actions more than prove it. he's a warmonger like everyone else in USA.

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JimG's avatar

Donald is an imperialist. That goes with Capitalism. But he doesn't like war and wants to make a deal instead. With Russia and Ukraine, he wants the war to be over so he can make money on resource development. This seems rational while Europeans seem to be irrational wanting to take Russian resources for themselves.

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Dhdh's avatar

really? Zion Don seems to like and support the Genocide in Palestine for his jew masters...

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Dhdh's avatar

stop with the "nazi" nonsense. the Ukraine is a jew project - zelenksy blinken nuland kagan....

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Married With Bears's avatar

It's highly possible that (1) the U.S. President (no matter who it is) can do nothing to stop the genocide in Gaza, and even lacks the power to stop the flow of gravity bombs dropped on those people (the bankers can crush the economy, etc.); (2) Trump realizes the Israeli Jews are planning and will kill every last man, woman, and child in Gaza; and (3) the only solution to saving any of their lives is to relocate them someone else.

I think that's what's going on, not a "zion Don" redoubt.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Reagan was able to stop the Israeli invasion of Lebanon with a single phone call.

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Dhdh's avatar

every POTUS supports the jew except maybe JFK and see what happened to him....

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Married With Bears's avatar

Yes. Because Jews are a monolithic group, with any individual a complete copy of all the others.

/idiot.

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Dhdh's avatar

All Jews consider the Jew is chosen by god and all else are goyim.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Don't feed the troll.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Trump negotiated an end to the Afghan War so as to fall after the election.

He also cucked out twice in Syria.

Trump is weak, stupid and easily manipulated. "I like oil!"

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ProMaleCollective's avatar

Another delusional MAGA cultist

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Seeker's avatar

The US MIC will see major challenges going forward. As the war in Ukraine has destroyed decades of marketing and PR. They will continually lose market share as Russian, Chinese and others demonstrate cheaper purpose built weaponry. This will outcompete the US over priced sophisticated, complicated, over engineered equivalent of inferior weaponry classes. The US could always force countries to purchase expensive boondoggles because of balance of trade but with the tariffs set to reduce trade, countries will have less surplus to waste purchasing useless weaponry.

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Steel's avatar

Yes, and forcing countries to buy your second-rate military gear just makes your MIC even more lazy and unfit.

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Dhdh's avatar

zion don is beholden to the jew....

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marcjf's avatar

And its seems Europe and Rusia will be locked in some sort of debilitating conflict between them - a win win for the USA.

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SG_observer's avatar

Not going to happen. Europe without Russian energy is a dis-industrialized backwater. That's a major trump card which will be played when the impact will be the greatest.

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Denis's avatar

Brilliant observation, Paulo. 5 stars.

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John Galtsky's avatar

A very solid analysis, Paulo. Kudos! But in the last paragraph you misspelled "Kiev." Only the Nazis spell it "Kyiv".

"Kiev" it's been for hundreds of years and only for a short while as the Kiev junta re-writes culture and history have they been fooling around with Western minds by adding extra "y" characters where they've never been before.

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HBI's avatar

It's the same thing the US did with English after the Revolution. Color/colour and the like. Ben Franklin was a fan of the tactic.

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John Galtsky's avatar

Getting rid of unnecessary letters is always great for efficiency, but it's a shame they didn't get rid of all the living fossil letters like the "gh" in "might" and "right".

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Adrian's avatar

I agree with everything other than the fact this is not about weakness. It is 100% about weakness. Economic weakness, military weakness, diplomatic weakness. They are simply not strong enough to defeat Russia in any sphere.

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Politugal's avatar

Exactly. And USA is weak everywhere, but as always they have the media to spin their losses, as "wins" and many people just fall for it.

On the tariffs side Trump was forced to admit defeat against China, the real target of the tariffs to begin with. With the Houthis, USA has to run away with their tail between their legs. In Ukraine, despite sending everything and the kitchen sink to the nazis, USA is still being defeated. USA wanted to overextend Russia...it actually managed to overextend itself and its european vassals.

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Politugal's avatar

Agreed overall, but I disagree that it isn't weakness and you said yourself in the beginning - "finally recognizing the limits of power projection" - and that's USA recognizing its weakness, as everyone else already did.

Also, I don't really believe that USA is edging away from Ukraine just yet. We already heard many months ago, that the west wants to shift the war into terrorism. And this was still during pedo Biden's term. On the battlefields ukrainian nazis and NATO troops are being wiped out in a large scale and cannot do the same to the russians, so they will try to shift to a less conventional warfare. I'm sure russians know this is a strong possibility and are already making sure they mitigate this.

Also, USA is always more concerned about optics. The whole of western media constantly plays its part of USA's propaganda arm to claim a "defeat" is actually a "win" for USA, like we recently saw with the Houthis. The same thing happens in Europe. Somehow paying more for energy has been spun by european media, as a "win" for all europeans and europeans are so dumb, they swallow it. So I still don't put too much faith that USA will abandon its best proxy yet. It just wants to look that way. Trump has been following the neocon book very closely, making things worse in many ways. I very much doubt he's smart enough to not "own" this war. He was responsible for escalating it after all, by arming Ukraine during his first term. Sure, pedo Biden was the father of this war, but Trump certainly contributed to it, and still tries to spin it as "I helped Ukraine" while blaming Biden for everything else. So never trust anything coming out of USA/EU or western media. It's without a doubt 100% a lie / deception.

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Dhdh's avatar

if the JewSA was more concerned about optics it would not be supporting that illegal jew state committing a genocide in Palestine...

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Tom Welsh's avatar

As usual, "declare victory and leave".

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g4rg4ntu4's avatar

"The U.S. didn’t sign up for a forever war to bleed out on the steppes of Donbas. It wanted leverage over Russia, not a meat grinder it has to bankroll endlessly while its own domestic priorities crumble."

The rogue US regime instigated this conflict to both weaken Russia, and to weaken Europe - only one of their aims has been realized. As for their "domestic priorities" - you are of course referring to their East Asian domestic priorities - I have no idea why the rogue US regime is in such a hurry to fail even more comprehensively and conclusively against China, but I am glad for the sake of the world that they are.

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Chevrus's avatar

Agreed. Every time I bother to model this sort of conflict it has the USN getting sunk within a day…I can only imagine what they are thinking will happen….

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g4rg4ntu4's avatar

"Every time I bother to model this sort of conflict..."

I'd be keen to see your work. Do you publish it?

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Chevrus's avatar

No, nothing of the sort I simply build composite models in my head and run minor simulations, but none of them end up with US naval force projection having much success at all

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g4rg4ntu4's avatar

Cool! Keep up the good work d00d!

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Velociraver's avatar

"Doubling down on a losing hand" is literally "The American Way"..Vietnam..Iraq..Afghanistan..Ukraine...see a pattern of incompetence?

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Dhdh's avatar

why not walk away from that jew state that is committing a genocide right now then?

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Feral Finster's avatar

The only question is whether the War On Russia or the War On Iran will take priority for now.

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Xavier Narutowicz's avatar

Trump has always wanted to exit Ukraine. The US has been doubling down, and more, for the past 70 years; the object is war for money, not reason or victory. But all war is destruction.

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Roland's avatar

The US is stepping mainly because stooges behind Biden isn't in power now.

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Kiko's avatar

This war is not about "US interests", it's a demonic attack on the Orthodox Church and European civilization in general. This is all going perfectly well in spite of Russian combat successes.

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ReynMeLo's avatar

Highly doubtful the US is 'slowly' pulling back... If they really wanted to end the conflict, they could have pulled the plug 5months ago, nothing really has changed. The theatrics are non-stop aka the shoe salesman DJT. The show must go on....

Russia--just don't pull another terrible 'Syria' disaster.

Could Zelensky be a double agent? Look how long the US/UK/EU have been bogged down. If its perspective, the west is just as much trapped within its own delusions.

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abcdefg's avatar

My guess is Trump is jostling for position. When the inevitable collapse comes they want to be next to the door. Perhaps like in the Godfather they will lock it on the way out.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

O/T i know, but re: the inevitable collapse. The BRICS and everyone else with their eye on the ball is stacking up Gold Bullion ( the real stuff, not Paper) like there's no tomorrow. Many report that the price of both Gold and Silver have been artificially manipulated and soon, may well be revalued; upwards. US Treasuries have lost popularity and are being dumped, and Stock Markets have been tumbling. The 8000+ tonnes of Gold allegedly held at Fort Knox and elsewhere has taken on a Schrodinger's Cat reality. Musk mentioned an Audit then didn't. 100s of tonnes of Gold has been flown out of London to New York in recent months, the biggest transfer since Bretton Woods, with not a word said by the MSM. Looks like there's a parallel War going on that's being widely discussed on Youtube but nowhere else. Just saying.

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GM's avatar

As I have mentioned many times, Putin was in charge of protecting Syria too, and we saw how that turned out -- he let it be bombed and occupied by Israel, the Americans and the Turks for years, and it gradually bled to death.

Right now Russia is a giant version of Syria -- a place bombed daily by the US without ever fighting back.

It will take much longer for it to collapse because it has much greater resources, but with further unanswered Western escalations that process will speed up.

And the fact that it is the same person in charge of protecting it does not inspire confidence.

Remember how Assad was taken out -- in 2023-24 he was accepted back in the club by the Gulf Arab leaders, and there was no shortage of alternative media talking heads proclaiming how he had won the war and everything was good. In reality they were lulling him to complacency while setting him up for the final destruction operation.

The US is playing the exact same game with the Kremlin now.

What is needed at the moment is for Russia, Iran, China and North Korea to conclude a mutual defense pact and to then go on the offensive and physically kick the US out of the eastern hemisphere. Yes, that will involve nukes at military bases and proxies. And no, the US will not dare nuke them because then it dies itself too, it will tuck its tail between its legs, take the L, and go back to its own continent to lick its wounds. Unless that is done and we continue playing these stupid diplomatic games, the US will eventually destroy them all, mostly from within.

Guess who is dying in the killing fields of Ukraine? The patriotic minded Russians, ready to go to war for their country.

Guess who is not dying? The liberal traitors in Moscow, St. Petersburg and a few other such spots.

Guess who is then becoming proportionally more dominant...

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Kennewick Man's avatar

‘As I have mentioned many times, Putin was in charge of protecting Syria too, and we saw how that turned out’

Putin was in charge of Syria only as far as defenses on the ground were functional and that was not his job. He was there only to supply dominance in the skies. It was not Putin’s fault that Assad’s military walked away from positions without any substantial struggle.

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Politugal's avatar

Exactly. I think the "argument" (if one can call it that) is whatever the situation and context is, it's "always Russia's or Putin's fault". GM follows the western media / governments narrative to the last comma.

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Politugal's avatar

LOL, what ?

Don't know where you got this idea that Russia was "protecting Syria". It wasn't. Russia helped Syria when it needed it, at a time Syria had a functioning armed forces. When those armed forces collapsed thanks to bribes, Russia could not replace an entire army, not should it. Syria needed help. Russia helped, but it was still syrian forces for the most part doing the fighting. If anything the Syria situation is like Iraq, where USA bribed iraqi generals not to fight and then declared "victory". Same thing with syrian armed forces, hey were bribed not to fight and left.

Comparing the Russia situation with Syria situation is laughable. Thanks for the laugh.

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GM's avatar
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>Don't know where you got this idea that Russia was "protecting Syria".

Because I understand how important Syria is. So did the Kremlin, for decades.

Brezhnev actually sent the nukes to protect it in 1973.

And Putin went to war over Syria first, eight years before he went to war in Ukraine.

It is the same war, two different fronts.

But because the Kremlin refused to mobilize the necessary resources to win it, and also refuses to use all the tools available (again, Brezhenv sent the nukes once upon a time, while Russia right now might not be a gas station, but is effectively without nukes), it was overextended and completely lost on the other front.

The dominos fall in a very unpleasant way from there,

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Kennewick Man's avatar

You really need to learn viewing events in a context, not on their own. The December 8th, 2024 fall of the Assad Government was extremely fast. There was no possible logistical way for Russia to drop a whole army in Syria to engage various forces in the North and in Damascus. However, the main reason for the no intervention policy was that Russia was into a major conflict in Ukraine. Putin actually complained about Assad forces walking away from cities and bases without a fight. Had they fought, that might have given Russia time to alter the balance of power with air support. Interesting thing is that Russia still operates the bases there.

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GM's avatar

Yes, in the context indeed.

The context here being Putin playing the good cop to the Israeli-American bad cope since 2012.

Which is how Syria was hollowed out in the first place.

Did Putin (or the Iranians for that matter) do anything to relieve the sanctions siege? Not really.

Did Putin do anything to stop his Jewish best buddies from bombing Syria every other day? No, the S-300s and S-400 sat there silent.

Did Putin and the Iranians do anything to clear Syria from American occupation in the northeast? No, not even after the HIMARS missiles started killing hundreds of Russians. Including on pre-war Russian territory. What could a few Iskander/Tornado-S volleys fired at those bases done in Syria? But it never happened.

What did Putin do to clear Idlib? He did the exact opposite in fact, the Syrian Army, the Russian army and Hezbollah had the jihadists practically defeated and ready for the final clean up, and then order came to halt and Astana was signed. Exact same situation as Mariupol and Minsk-I in 2014 pretty much. Same people involved on the Russian side certainly.

Etc. etc. etc.

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HBI's avatar

Trump's moves are all about matching domestic politics to the realities of foreign affairs. Full stop. Those who don't understand what he is doing do not understand US domestic politics. Which is fine, but it'll end when it's right for him domestically and not a moment before.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Far from paying attention to, let alone believing any of the bleating by the Atlantic, Economist or the other MSM liars, most of the American folks I know have lost interest in the Ukraine war, and I haven't heard it even mentioned in months.....I have the feeling it won't make much of an appearance in our history books either....War is a cruel business...Your death will be a non-event..

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Jullianne's avatar

I have looked through the few starting comments designed to throw doubt on US disengagement. I wonder why, given there is not one single good (in US terms) reason the US would want to continue the Biden policy and certainly not wade deeper in. Even Sullivan for the old opposition, noted this.

EU sabre-rattling in the Baltics has just given the US an even more pressing reason to get the hell out while it can, even to the extent of dumping NATO which may well be reason enough for the euronuts to back off here.

The question is how the US extracts itself, not if, meaning neutering its own neocon nutters, in which cause the golden dome is a punt at giving the hard liner republicans a good reason to agree to US withdrawal to release the funds and resources to build this in the interests of protecting the US AT HOME. Forget whether it is feasible or not. Operability is not what this about. It is about saying this war that is lost, is not worth using up resources we need for the Great Game down the line, and then coming up with an actual investable project in that grand cause.

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Jeannie's avatar

I'm hoping that the golden dome is for DEFENSE, and once we have it, we can get rid of all the overseas bases and military incursions and let the dome and two oceans keep us safe while we take care of our own stuff.

We could actually be a peaceful nation. Nah, there's no grifter money in that. Oh well.

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Frank Sailor's avatar

Against whom is the US building defense?

Who wants to be there with all those illiterate, obese and brainwashed people anyway?

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Politugal's avatar

Yeah, USA people are just delusional and evil. They are the cause of ALL wars, terrorism and chaos around the world, yet think they are the ones that need to be safe. Despicable people.

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Dhdh's avatar

the USA is run by the JEW. Zion Don is a puppet but most white American people want friendly relations with other white countries like russia. Nuke all the US african infested cities and the country improves....

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Velociraver's avatar

White Americans are among the most ill-informed, xenophobic and ignorant people on earth. Particularly south of the Mason-Dixon line. They prove it on social media every single day.

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Dhdh's avatar

ahh, the old attack on the white "redneck". how do they compare to the negro and msic brown subhumans of the USA thanks to the jew immigration policy?

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Kennewick Man's avatar

Thanks for the info, Im movin there.

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Kennewick Man's avatar

The Golden Dome will melt under the weight of hypersonic missiles fired from nuclear submarines from short distances. And when the Dome melts and the gold starts dripping from the sky the members of US minority groups will open their goldmines.

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Politugal's avatar

Keep you safe ? You're the PoS that make everyone else NOT safe around the world. Also your "air defenses" are crap now, very doubtful they will improve too much and certainly not at the level to stop anything Russia or China already have and assuming you continue your idiotic warmongering policies, you may find out that an ocean won't be enough to stop you from having the consequences you deserve from all the evil you've done. FAFO.

But I agree with the rest, stay in your little bubble and stop interfering in other countries affairs, creating was, chaos, supporting terrorists and nazis all over he world. You are the reason ANYONE in the world is not secure. USA is the most despicable country to ever exist.

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Chevrus's avatar

Understand that generally the US “worldview” is based primarily on hollywood renditions of warfare. It’s a dumbed down cowboys and Indians and the US is justified in every case no matter how illogical it may be. It matters not if you say “but the USA has 800 military bases outside its own borders….nothing but blank stares and magical thinking is what you ‘ll get.

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Dhdh's avatar

even the generals are jews now !

Gen. Chance Saltzman

The Golden Dome missile defense system will cost about $175 billion and be operational “in less than three years” with “a success rate close to 100%,” President Donald Trump declared Tuesday

https://www.twz.com/space/trumps-golden-dome-missile-shield-what-we-just-learned-and-its-implications

Is 0 close to 100?

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Squeeth's avatar

McDome? I doubt if it is intended as a substitute for all those imperial outposts.

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marcjf's avatar

I'm guessing that Trump will talk to Putin, declare victory, and then run for the hills leaving Europe holding the USA's bastard baby. Then Russia will actually win.

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Jullianne's avatar

More likely he will declare UKRAINE'S defeat and so pre-empt the surrender negotiations.

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VirginiaSteve's avatar

More likely declare that Ukraine can’t possibly win even with Western help and must negotiate terms with Russia, or be forced into unconditional surrender. Either way, it’s time for the U.S. to move on.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Settle down. How many times have we seen this movie already?

Trump will make some noises, his underlings will scurry behind the scenes, someone will talk to the clown, he'll change his mind, the european poodles will breathe a sigh of relief, we'll be back where we were.

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Kennewick Man's avatar

‘The question is how the US extracts itself,”

In case if the conflict suddenly widens there is no meaningful US extraction. In a 20th century war environment by limiting mobilization and keeping your armies away from your potential opponent’s borders you might have made them believe that you have no intention to attack. In a 21st century war where victory or ultimate loss can be realized in an hour words will have very limited weight.

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Yoni Reinón's avatar

Trump's position is not sound in the US. He cannot tame the FED and the midterm elections are looming just around the corner. I think he will concede the Dnipr line as the new border between NATO and Russia and sell it a peace success. The question is how far will the EU go. The tension strategy is meant to streghten the EU cohesion and to foster a very much needed industrial defence boom which has already been triggered making a stock market soar for these companies ( many of them owned by American hedge funds). So I doubt Trump completely disengages and leave the EU to their own devices. There will be EU troops on the ground with or without ceasefire. The Baltic provocations will increase. And the BRICs are frozen. Expect another couple of years at least of SMO.

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Oregonian's avatar

2027 is my year for ending SMO…

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Kennewick Man's avatar

“The moment there is a ceasefire the coalition of the willing can operate on Ukrainian soil” — ‘Belgian Defense Minister Theo Francken says France, Uk, Belgium and others will move in troops into Ukraine instantly when the fighting stops. Russia cannot agree to a ceasefire because of that.’

This statement is at the heart of the Beast, it clearly gives away the original intention, an everlasting conflict against the Russian Federation. When Belgium starts to ‘operate on Ukrainian soil’ that means open war between Russia and Belgium. Brussels is less than 1,500 miles from Russia as the ballistic, hypersonic missile flies, in around 15 minutes. (This 15 minute can be greatly shortened in case the missiles take off from a warship from the Baltic or the Atlantic.) The various European NATO leaders gradually worked their way toward deepening this conflict where they are unable to back out of it. Lavrov is rightfully using the word ‘hysterically’ as this is the only proper way to describe the act of the ‘coalition of the willing’.

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Jeannie's avatar

Francken is either an idiot for saying that out loud, or, as demon worshippers are compelled to do, they must telegraph their intentions.

Beast indeed.

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Feral Finster's avatar

No, Francken is convinced that Russia is again bluffing, that Russia does not want to fight.

https://korybko.substack.com/p/will-russia-inevitably-reconcile

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Surferket's avatar

They are betting Pootin don't have the balls to take on NATO in the open. That's why they intend to use NATO as tripwire to stop Russian advances.

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marcjf's avatar

The weak Russian army has lost several million soldiers and its untrained slave conscripts have low morale and are fighting using rusty shovels. A bit of Belgium cold steel will send them scuttling back over the Urals. "You have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will collapse. "

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SG_observer's avatar

If that is not /s, pls let us know what you're smoking as it seems to be pretty strong stuff. Must be quite a trip....

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Kennewick Man's avatar

The weak Russian army has lost several million soldiers and its untrained slave conscripts have low morale and are fighting using rusty shovels. A bit of Belgium cold steel will send them scuttling back over the Urals. "You have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will collapse. "

Estonia is a small nation and Belgium is only a fraction of the size of Estonia. Now these two Lilliput nations are arguing to run over and check-mate Russia, a country that can depopulate each one of them with a single ballistic missile. Is there something out of sync here?!

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Chevrus's avatar

Such cheap and illogical copy and paste is not really effective in this context …..mebe try Reddit or something?

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Vade Retro's avatar

yes indeed, 2025 moscow 2026 kazan!

sieg hei...ermm, i mean long live democracy!

:)))

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Feral Finster's avatar

That is basically what they are betting on, and that the Americans will ride to their rescue if need be.

Russian dithering and indecision have led to this.

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Natoistan2's avatar

I think this is not really against Russia (too late) but EU + UK globalists against Trump, forcing him in a trap to be sure he loses midterms and JD Vance or even neocon Rubio never win potus in 2028.

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GM's avatar

>When Belgium starts to ‘operate on Ukrainian soil’ that means open war between Russia and Belgium. Brussels is less than 1,500 miles from Russia as the ballistic, hypersonic missile flies, in around 15 minutes

So when Czech MLRS systems were doing mass murder of children in Belgorod, it was not open war with the Czech, and when German tanks rolled into Kursk, it was not war with Germany, when sheep dipped Polish Army units followed them, that was not war with Poland, and when the US fired directly ballistic missiles all the way to Lipetsk, that was not war with the US, etc. etc. etc.?

Putin had all the legal right to start evaporating countries off the face of the planet a long, long time ago.

He didn't do it.

Past behavior being the best predictor of future actions, NATO will move into Ukraine openly and directly and nothing will happen once again.

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marcjf's avatar

And that is I think a valid comment and may well be NATO's calculation. Though I think if NATO did move openly into Ukraine they would find a kinetic greeting waiting for them.

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GM's avatar

No, hitting them in Ukraine won't make any real difference.

They will disperse among the civilian population just as the AFU have learned to disperse, and then will make a meaningful contribution at the front.

You have to hit them in their own countries. With the big guns. Nothing else suffices.

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Eclavdra's avatar

Then Putin dies too along with Russia. Clearly that is not something he is in favor of. That should be obvious.

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GM's avatar
May 22Edited

No, he doesn't.

There will be no strikes on Russia after it nukes NATO in Europe, not nuclear and not conventional. That is in fact the winning move, after which nobody will dare fire a single drone anymore. Nobody will sacrifice DC for Warsaw, not after lethal intent has been demonstrated in the most undeniable way.

In fact during the Cold War the US contingency plans were for strategic nuking of West Germany in the event of the Warsaw Pact breaking out of East Germany, not of nuking the USSR. The idea being to deny them the spoils. But they knew the USSR is off limits because then the continental US would be nuked.

Nothing has changed in this fundamental deterrence reality except that the repeated refusal of the Kremlin to use the nukes to defend the country has resulted in NATO giving itself permission to begin firing cruise and ballistic missiles into Russia.

Again, someone gets nuked, e.g. Finland, Poland, Romania, etc., or even all of the non-nuclear countries in NATO, and then the war ends. Whoever is left standing simply exits NATO because they don't want to be next. And nobody will ever dare launch anything into Russian territory.

The one downside is that this unties of the US's hands to use nukes to settle its own scores with non-nuclear countries. Which is a serious problem. Then Russia would face the same dilemma -- Moscow is much more valuable to itself than Syria. That calculation only applied when there were allies to defend though. After the Kremlin refused to defend Syria conventionally, it no longer applies.

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Eclavdra's avatar

Wrong. Nuclear strikes will be inbound to Russia before Russian missiles even leave Russian air space. Russia knows this.

What you are advocating for is exactly what NATO wants and has been baking Russia into. Sacrifice Europe but win the war.

If nukes are used, Russia needs to launch all at once, thousands, and then a second and third launch with anything that survives the counterstrike. Most of these towards the USA in conjunction with China.

This is the winning move, any military analyst knows this. Not sure why you continue to advocate for NATO plans?

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GM's avatar

>Nuclear strikes will be inbound to Russia before Russian missiles even leave Russian air space

Wrong. This has been gamed endlessly. Nobody will defend anyone else against a nuclear attack, except perhaps the US defending Israel, but that is because Israel owns the US.

Work it out.

Missiles are flying towards Warsaw and Rzeszow.

What does the US do?

It fires the Tridents and the Minutemans towards Russia.

Then what does Russia do? It fires the Bulavas, Sinevas, Voevodas, Topols and Yars towards the US while the US missiles are still in boost phase

And what does the US get from this? Total annihilation for itself.

Over what? Retaliating for Poland?

How much sense does that make?

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Eclavdra's avatar

You should write a book, "A Beginner's Guide to Losing Nuclear War."

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Velociraver's avatar

USA would not fail to respond to nuclear strikes on it's forces in Europe, a contest of escalation dominance or human error make an all-out nuclear exchange inevitable.

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GM's avatar

How would it respond and why would it respond?

What sense does it make to retaliate over what does not exist anymore?

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Velociraver's avatar

What sense? To retain alliances it already has, to retain some sense of credibility, to retain some sense of deterrence because Americans are cowardly xenophobes and have proven it again and again. If cornered, they will lash out, the ignorant masses will require it.

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Velociraver's avatar

He didn't do it because he isn't an idiot. Nuclear war is unwinnable.

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GM's avatar

The only time it was fought it was decisively won.

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Velociraver's avatar

A nuclear war has never been fought, don't be ridiculous. The nuking of civilians with no value is a war crime, but not a nuclear exchange.

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Anna's avatar

That was a war crime of mass-slaughtering the civilian populations.

And look who had the greatest joy and never stopped talking about his exploits:

"Jacob Beser was a Jewish American serviceman who was the only person to participate in both atomic bomb missions over Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War II. ... Jacob Beser was proud of his role and defended the use of the atomic bombs."

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Kennewick Man's avatar

Selling, giving away weapons to other nations is a rather common activity worldwide. Sending foreign troops into a culturally and historically Russian land will be viewed as a major escalation. The West has limited memory of the 'Nasty Little War' of 1918 but Russia remembers. That is a major reason why they believe they are into an existential conflict.

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Feral Finster's avatar

We've heard how many times before that NATO cannot escalate, that escalation is unpopular, reckless, that they don't have the equipment or men?

NATO escalates, all the same.

This is because the Russian leadership clearly does not want to fight, which only encourages NATO aggression. We see similar dynamics in a barroom confrontation.

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GM's avatar
May 23Edited

Russia having the escalatory dominance is correct in principle.

Ultimately if the choice is between persisting with the attacks on Russia or dying themselves, the Anglo-Saxons will back off. This is in fact rather existential for them too, because they must loot Russia to keep their dysfunctional system going for a bit longer without collapsing, but still not existential quite to the level of the real risk of being nuked not deterring them. For Russia it is existential to that level.

The problem is that it is existential to that level for Russia, but not for Russian elites.

Putin should have been handcuffed and charged with treason the moment he said "I am sure we will do business with Europe again" right as the people he is sure he will do business with again are bombing his cities, killing his civilians and plotting on how to end Russia once and for all. What wartime leader speaks like that?

But he could say it and nothing happened to him because that is the general sentiment in much of the traitorous Russian elites.

As you said, they don't want to fight. The people do, and the people want to see Europe burn. But the elites don't want to burn bridges with Western elites.

So the whole escalatory dominance relationships flips completely...

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Feral Finster's avatar

"Past behavior being the best predictor of future actions, NATO will move into Ukraine openly and directly and nothing will happen once again."

Oh, but the parade of excuses we will hear from the commentariat!

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Wouter's avatar

It’s especially funny if you know that his party used to be an independentist Flemish - break-up-Belgium - party.

I guess they could only access power if they followed certain national and international rules.

You can only participate in power if you give full control to the real powers that govern our countries. Sadly.

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Anna's avatar

Messier T. Franken did not get the memo, "F-ck the EU!" - Nuland-Kagan.

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Jeannie's avatar

I cannot understand why these people keep insisting on a ceasefire. What makes them think that Russia would agree to this? What makes them think they have any ability to force this demand?

Maybe they are casting spells and doing weird secret ceremonies trying to make this happen.

I can easily see them doing that.

Maybe they think the Russians are that stupid and gullible.

Most likely, they are mainly upset that the US won't back them up with muscle and money to cover their big talk.

In the five stages of grief, I'd say the NEOCON-WEF puppets have completed "Denial", that Russia wouldn't fear them and the US wouldn't back them, and are now in "Anger" after realizing it is true, soon to move on to "Bargaining", which should be pathetic but interesting, and on to "Depression" and "Acceptance"

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Walter's avatar

They count on US back them up by default. Once missiles start flying, US will be forced (unwillingly) to help for the sake of being on the same side of the "West"/NATO.

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Jeannie's avatar

Oh let's hope not. If the Europeans start it, their own their own.

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abcdefg's avatar

NATO is in no position to take on Russia (and the DPRK). The level of bellicosity says it all. It reminds me of Saddam Hussein's Iraq before Gulf War. Little dog, loud bark.

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Eclavdra's avatar

All you say plus desperation. The closer Ukrainian lines get to collapse, the shriller they will become.

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Politugal's avatar

Their hubris is what makes them think Russia would agree to it. You see, the entire west is built on lllusion, that it is democratic, that it is free, that it is powerful, that it has influence everywhere and that everyone else, whatever the west tells them, will accept it. In other words, the west's supremacism and fascism, makes them think others are inferior and thus have to agree with whatever the west says. This "strategy" may have worked somehow with weak countries that could not defend themselves, but it could never work with a powerhouse like Russia. But because of this arrogance / hubris from the west, they cannot fathom any country not doing what the west wants. In many was, that's the weakness of the west. They are so ideologically motivated, that they cannot understand when they are the weaker party, the one that is in no position to make demands.

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Chevrus's avatar

Don’t get high on your own supply….in this case of propaganda. They literally believe their won bullshit. Ah well live and learn.

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John Thomas's avatar

What if Ukraine declared they have built more than one 'dirty' bombs using spent fuel and will detonate it on the front line in some city the Russians are advancing on.

Would that cause the Russians to pause or declare a ceasefire?

Would Russia use nukes in response, or would they if its not a real nuke?

The west, with plausible deniability could provide some dirty bombs or Ukraine could make them. Does that change the calculus of Russia's strategy?

Even if Russia changes from SMO to war - what actually would change?

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Jeannie's avatar

I doubt Russia would use nukes on Ukraine, because they don't need to do that when they have so many other weapons, especially the "Hazelnut".

If Russia changes from SMO to war, it would be a very big change. They are holding back now, just fighting a war of attrition.

Russia is well aware that Ukraine is a proxy, with no money, logistic capability, or missile codes, and that the West is behind everything they do. Russia is not insane and is trying to avoid WW3.

If the West goes too far with the provocations, they will get a response. Russia will do it in their own time and at their own choosing. Two can play the plausible deniability game.

Who do you like to bet on in a world war? Russia, China, NK, Iran, or USA, Britain, France, Germany, and the little yappers? I know who I would bet on.

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HBI's avatar

I've been of the opinion that Russia has been responding to provocations for quite a while now and very effectively keeping deniability. I mostly keep my mouth shut about it because otherwise you'll get called a conspiracy theorist, but the Baltimore bridge destruction by tanker misadventure comes to mind here. Closed the port for months.

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Natoistan2's avatar

They receive fake intel on Russia (mili + eco) for three years now, from ''yes man''.. Tulsi did not change the flow much.

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Surferket's avatar

Autonomous Skynet on the tactical battlefield is the only way to go in the digital age. Human operators are the weak link in setting up a kill, either through incompetence, inexperience, sudden sense of morality, inattention.

The problem with FPV is the view of view is very limited to front so and enemy drone jinked suddenly the attacking drone operator can lose sight. Hence, fire and forget and leaving the interception to the AI.

The new Russian 100km long range diesel engined drones are such Skynet killing machines. No human operators involved after the launch.

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Roger Boyd's avatar

Soon perhaps we will be seeing air battles between attack anti-drone drones and protector drones, we are seeing exactly the same process that happened with aircraft in WW1 - surveillance, bombing, fighter aircraft to shoot down bombers, fighter aircraft to shhot down other fighter aircraft. Which AI powered drone will be the first Von Richthofen?

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Gilgamech's avatar

Very good point!

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Sam Ursu's avatar

One of these days, you're gonna learn Russian and have quite a laugh at the names of all these towns. Also, for the record, "Yolka" can also mean "Christmas tree," which is amusing (the same way all those artillery pieces are named after flowers). Americans always want to give their military stuff macho and tough sounding names (or else incomprehensible acronyms) while Russians never fail to have a sense of humor.

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Pavle Kodak's avatar

re: translations... by chance I am perfectly fluent in both Russian and English, non of them being my mother's tongue, and I can not express more appreciation and respect to the person who translated Anton Kobyakov's speech including stops, emotional expressions, tone of voice and overall mood! Excellently done!

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Simplicius's avatar

It was A.I.

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Pavle Kodak's avatar

Ai? that was simultaneously scary and amazing... Soon it will be only scary...

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