As expected, the big European ‘second emergency’ conclave on Thursday was another flop, failing to secure any of the vaunted mega-billions for Ukraine:
When you say, "there’s no way Russia could allow a militarily-pumped up hostile power to loom over its citizens again", are you suggesting this war started because Ukraine was looming over Russia? Honest question - in the US we are told the war started because of unprovoked Russian imperialism. So how did this war really start?
it is true that I cannot recall a time other than (was it the 80s?) when the Europeans turned down the stationing of US missiles there. But that was then. You are right that they would never have defied the US in any serious way, but that does not mean that many of them were not fully and eagerly on board.
It started by the US and it's vassals pushing NATO up to Russia's doorstep by overthrowing the democratically elected president of Ukraine in the Maiden Coup in 2014.
From then until Russia intervened in 2022, the Russian speaking Ukrainians of the Donbass were bombarded by the US installed regime, who were trained, supplied and funded by the US.
That's the short version. Anytime you see "Unprovoked Russian invasion", you are reading propaganda.
If you really want to look into it, the US started framing Ukrainian fascists as good guys and setting them up for destabilizing Russia before WWII was over. LtGen Gehlen (Nazi head of East European Intelligence) surrendered to the US before WWII was over. Gehlen partnered with Allen Dulles to set up remain behind forces in most European countries in what became Operation Gladio (umbrella title as it had different names in different countries). Gehlen also set up remain behind forces in Ukraine in what became the CIAs largest overseas operation.
Dulles brought Mykola Lebed (one of the leaders of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists - OUN - working with Stepan Bandera) to the US. Once in the US, Lebed was installed at the Prolog Research Corporation, a CIA publishing house designed to promote Ukrainian nationalist sentiment through fascist organizations. After the Church Commission Prolog was made an NGO with the CIA donating rather than running it directly.
US efforts were run through: Project Icon, Project Aerodynamic (indirectly preceded by Redsox and more directly by Androgen) QRPLUMB, and PDDYNAMIC. Icon started during WWII. Aerodynamic ran from 1949 to 1970. PDDYNAMIC ran till 1991.
From 1991 to 2013 the US spent over $5 billion to promote "democracy" (find Victoria Nuland's National Press Club speech from Dec 2013 where she declares this) meaning the US was continuing efforts preceded by the aforementioned projects started in WWII. Among other things, that money paid for a coup in 2004 commonly called, the Orange Revolution.
On 29 August 2005 the US signed a treaty with Ukraine establishing biological research labs in violation of the UN Biological Weapons Convention. This treaty is still posted on the US State Department website. In the name of safety and non-proliferation the US funded multiple facilities through the DoD (contract still on the US GSA website) employing US company, Black & Veatch (among others), to carry out maintenance and renovations. The US stored, transported and conducted research on pathogens at these sites.
There are over 3,800 US FOIA released documents describing Project Aerodynamic on the US gov website, the CIA Reading Room. All of this is backed up by US documents and US official government statements. By the time you add the other programs, there are over 5,000 publicly available official US records.
You don't need one single Russian statement.
Bonus: the US DTRA produced PR videos about these sites until 2021. In 2022 they were scrubbed from the internet, but with digging they are still on the Internet Archive. There are also facilities in Kazakhstan and Georgia (in Tbilisi, Georgia it's named after Sen Lugar identifiable on Google maps).
Then the US started negotiating the placement of CIA bases (reported in the NYT after the CIA gave an interview) in Ukraine prior to 2014 placed along the border with Russia. In 2014 Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador Pyatt got caught picking Ukraine's government (recording still available online). Then there was a coup that toppled Ukraine's government again.
If you want to understand the rationale for US actions start with Zig Brzenzinski's 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard. If you want to understand Brzezinski, look into Prof H. Mackinder and his, Heartland Theory of Geopolitics.
This fight with Russia goes back before the Soviet Union and the Cold War. Brzezinski uses MacKinder's terms and concepts but updates them for modern, post Soviet geopolitical context.
If you are still curious, the 2019 Rand Corporation Report Extending Russia lays out how the US should use Ukraine (and Moldova, Romania, the Caucasus region i.e. Georgia, and NATO expansion and sanctions) to hurt Russia. This was published three years before Russia's 2022 offensive. And on page 100, it says Ukraine would likely lose with catastrophic losses and an unfavorable negotiated peace, but in context of the report, it's worth it because Russia would be hurt.
There are another 10 or so books coming out of US think tanks or people like Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol. Or you can look up Sen John McCain and Sen Linsey Graham vists to Ukraine long before 2022. McCain visited so many times and funneled so much money to Ukraine, Kiev named a street after him before he died.
That's the tip of the iceberg. If you dissect the 1994 Budapest Memo - actually read it, the US violated it the moment it was signed. The US offered NATO membership to Ukraine in 2008, which violated the Memo as did both coups which are war crimes in their own right. In the US's case, the Memo was signed but never made law by Congress because it would not have passed. So, it was an agreement without force of law in the US. But it did authorize any signator to intervene if another signator used Ukraine militarily, economically, or politically against another signator. The US did this multiple times. By the time Russia went into Ukraine the US violated it more times than Ted Bundy violated women on a date.
There is a lot more. Suffice it to say, Russia was provoked.
The post-WWII US strategy is certified by a publication of the National Archive (Washington DC) researchers on declassified files of the archive (HITLER’S
SHADOW - Nazi War Criminals, U.S. Intelligence, and the Cold War. Richard Breitman and Norman J.W. Goda. Published by the National Archives. Chapter 5: Collaborators: Allied Intelligence and the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, p. 73ff. Washington DC, 2010.)
German Bundesnachrichtendienst in Pullach played an important role in this hidden war against the Soviet Union.
Agree to an extent Dilligaf, indifferent action, spent subduing Psychopaths, who dominate our culture is required! Somehow the truly evil often get helicoptered out or elected.
Interesting point about a proxy war.
"Russia isn’t using a proxy: it is fighting a war against the US’ and Europe’s proxies, which makes it an unequal contest given that Russians are losing lives and Americans are not. This makes it even more egregious for the predators themselves to demand compromises from Russia."
It reminds me of Assad saying the Syrians had like a hundred different nationalities of mercenaries, (they had captured), in their prisons. Immediately the North Korean 'facts' come back to life. Push comes to shove, look out when the Russian proxies show up!
Make a list of countries NATO and/or the US/Western powers have assaulted! Do you think the countries attacked have forgotten the color revolutions we finance?
So the act of aggression is considered a grievous crime. Borrowing money to do evil, insisting an obviously propagandized constituency must repay. All this highlights the insanity of rabid global leadership.
For Trump to double down with sanction threats, is proof he is cooperating with Putin.
Don't get me wrong, Putin has shown way more signs of wanting peace than he is credited. Let the EU blow it's wad trying to help Nazi's. Ultimately I lament the brainwashed millions, throwing their lives away for nothing but corporate profit, bringing endless agony for the slave classes.
Occasionally confront young men considering military service. Ask one question mister! Why do so many front line combat veterans commit suicide?
It is a crucial point, that Russia is not fighting a proxy war. The US is. NATO is. Russia is in a direct fight.
And when the full measure of what Russia can do but hasn't or how many olive branches it offered are counted it is an astonishing feat. Unfortunately, it's mostly lost on most Westerners.
It is indeed egregious what is being done by the West.
And yes, Operation Paperclip has to do with it, too. It had placed high ranking Nazi bureaucrats into the American (and other Western Nations) society and transformed the West into what it has become. A mirror of these policies and agendas.
It is hard to underestimate the impact of Operation Paperclip. Both the US and Soviets sought to learn what they could from captured Germans. But there is a huge practical difference.
The Soviets isolated the Germans. There was no trust and no attempt to offer redemption.
By contrast, the US assimilated and integrated them. Paperclip brought 1,000s of them to the US. Gehlen's full integration and work for the CIA falls outside the official included in Paperclip but reflects the same mindset. So does the US efforts in South America. As does integration of German leadership in NATO.
Very big deal.
Gehlen's writing shows he knew full well about his own impact and the impact of former Nazi officials on the US and the West.
Hell you can look at old US publications from the 80s or so. Back then, it was still in vogue to point out that Ukrainians were diligent assistants to Hitler in prosecuting mass killings. The trials of Ivan Demjanjuk are the most notable vestige of that last attempt to clean up the Nazi war criminals that came into the US as part of the postwar refugee flood.
Rereading your masterful and erudite summation this morning (Mar 13/25), I want to express my gratitude. The information on the fascist activities, the partnership between Gehlan and Allen Dulles, Project Icon "during WWII" – implying that Gehlen and Dulles were in partnership long before Gehlen surrendered ... This is exciting new insight for me. "Before the Soviet Union and WWII" implies US millionaire (Rockefeller, Ford, DuPont) "World Island" plans and activities before World War ONE (which makes sense regarding the founding of the FED in 1913). All this fits together now in my mind much more specifically. I marvel at your energy in studying the FOIAs and documents. I follow my intuition but fall down in scholarly dedication.
Thank you for the kind words. You're welcome. MacKinder published his, The Geopolitical Pivot of History in 1904. The connections between British elites and the US are quite strong. The timing of many events like you alluded, show the real foundations of what we are facing were laid in the early parts of the 20th Century.
The relation between the US and Gehlen is a big deal. He brought all his info and a network that is the basis of the US intelligence community in 1944. And to fund Gladio, Dulles turned to the US and Italian mafia rather than doing it legally or with oversight through Congress. It was a criminal enterprise from day one. Gehlen called his network of remain behind forces Werewolves - normal by day monsters by night. That got changed by Dulles to Gladiators / Gladio. After WWII Gehlen recruited hundreds of Nazis to create an idependent organization. At first he was paid directly as an employee. After about three years he became a contractor employed by the CIA but not officially on their books as an employee.
Thanks again! In my mind this information adds dimension to Charles Higham's 1983 book, "Trading With the Enemy: An Expose of the Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949" And so much more. Fletcher Prouty's "JFK" and "The Secret Team". And Anthony Sutton's "America's Secret establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones". The foundation of British American New England establishment in the Russell family trading opium into China under the protection of the British Navy, the Opium Wars. The endowment of the Order of Skull and Bones (a CIA recruiting pool e.g. George H.W. Bush and I believe Malcolm Wallace in 1948 – and Mac Wallace would be the CIA connection to Zionist Lyndon B. Johnson) by the Russell Trust in 1832. There is the triad: the East Coast establishment+ British Empire + drug criminals = CIA. Flippant but not inaccurate?
The SEVERAL openly published RAND papers regarding use of ex USSR republics and economic warfare to "over extend" Russian Federation are still out there. Now, some are headed with recently added "fig leaves" claiming the paper was all just something else totally innocuous, even though the described procedures were conducted.
Winston worked hard in the Ministry of Truth, making sure old documents reflected current policy. Who controls the past...
Edit: I've seen the BBC do exactly the the same as well. As an example, they did an excellent series of docvids regarding MbS's massacres of Eastern Arabia Shia - total ethnic cleansing, mass graves, the works. They're gone now. MbS moved some billions into UK offshored banks, and poof!
I saw a report - on a now banned-in-the-west site - that laid out how how the western powers were planning to use "Ukraine" straight after WW2, and started funding the anti-Russian/Soviet far-right elements even back that far.
Plans within plans within plans.
The site was called 'strategic statecraft', or something similar. Unfortunately I've had a total system meltdown (A bit suspicious, but mustn't get too paranoid about everything) and lost the bookmarks.
I believe the planning for this war began decades ago in Washington. But the first shots were fired in the US-engineered coup that deposed the elected (and Russia-friendly) president in 2014. Following the coup, the Russian-speaking regions in the south east of Ukraine rebelled and refused to recognize the Kiev authorities. Kiev made war on them for the next eight years, until Russia invaded in 2022.
It's a bit silly to describe taking back territory that was part of your country for hundreds of years as imperialism.
Are you familiar with the fact that Bohdan Khmelnytsky, actually begged Russian Tsar to take Ukraine under his "strong arm" in 1654 to protect from abuses and humiliations by the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, and that the Pereiaslav Agreement treaty was signed, with an oath of allegiance? So much for "hundreds of years of imperialism."
Imperialism, at least in western perception, implies that something/land was taken by force. My point is that it was an official request to join Russia, moreover, Crimea was supposedly "transferred" to Ukraine to "honor the 300-year-anniversary of unity between the Russian and Ukrainian people," if you read the documents of this specific Forum of Communist Party of 1954.
So, basically, Ukraine wanted to break the unity with Russia but keep Crimea which was transferred to honor the union of Russia & Ukraine. Cute. LOL
Ok, but you are still barking at the wrong tree, if I may say so. :) Richard Roskell didn't write "hundreds of years OF imperialism." He wrote "hundreds of years AS imperialism."
"As" and "of" are small words, but they carry completely different meanings. Herman is correct in how I used it, but perhaps I should've worded it differently.
I do not see Russia as an imperialist state, at least AS I think of the term. Russia didn't create colonies elsewhere or acquire territories overseas at any time in history, AS far AS I know.
I read “Taras Bulba” as a teen, as something normal, and it only hit me many years after, being a parent, wth, a father killing his own son for falling in love, made into a national hero…
Please, do tell, and make sure to show me the Ukraine's land registries by which Ukrainians got free land from Lenin's "Decree on Land" in 1917, and then we'd compare which land Stalin asked to return to the state in the 1930s, during poor crops, famine and peasants gouging price of bread, and then we'd debate how many Ukrainians preferred to die for a gift of free land, rather than to return the free land to the state. You know the drill, "; freely you received freely give. " Looks like Ukraine is pathologically unable to give, but only grab, grab, grab...
You are espousing western propaganda. and clearly do not know what you are talking about with your anti Soviet propaganda. The reality of what happened is more nuanced than you understand. . Did Stalin and his centrist clique in the Kremlin make some huge mistakes? Yes they did which led to famine across several regions of the USSR. The Left and Right Oppositions within the Bolshevik Party put forward alternative policies in the late 1920s to deal with the growing kulak class which was starving the cities which did not involve the forced requisitioning of grain or use of violence.
Wide regions of the country were gripped by drought yet the harvest of 1932 did not in itself threaten famine. Russian historian Professor Vadim Rogovin explains: "Stalin used the poor harvest of 1932 in Ukraine and several other regions for political ends, in order to crush the recent outbursts of peasant resistance to forced collectivization and to the compulsory organization of labour on the collective farms.''
The forced collectivization of agriculture began in 1929 and continued until 1933 and was the primary cause of the famine across several regions of the USSR.
In mid 1933s Stalin reversed course after realizing the depth of opposition to his agricultural policies in the Bolshevik Party and wider society and the negative impact of the forced collectivization of agriculture on the whole of the soviet economy.
The Russian historian Professor Vadim Rogovin deals very well with this issue in volume 3 of his books about the history of the socialist opposition to Stalin: Bolsheviks Against Stalinism.
…in the US we are told the war started because of unprovoked Russian imperialism.
And you believed that unanimously enforced narrative from the wall of fake MSM news in the US? Did you not bother to learn some history about Ukraine, Ru, NATO expansion, Crimea, the Donbass, the Maidan Coup, the Minsk Accords, the civil war in Ukraine, the Nazi character of Ukrainian nationalism? Anything?
Hey Mr. Natural, maybe Nathan is late to the show. Maybe he's come across a different narrative and asking to understand. There's no fault in this. In fact, let's welcome Nathan and others who are coming around. So what if it isn't on the same timeline as you? The propaganda is thick and deep.....do you actually think you are immune to it??? If you do, you're a fool; if you don't, then show some grace.
While in Germany, Kamala said on 17 Feb 2022 that Ukraine would join NATO, and Zelensky said on 20 Feb 2022 that Ukraine will get nukes, and Russia invaded on 24 Feb 2022.
It started with the constant infringements by Ukraine of the last treaty to end its aggravations and the encroaching western influence along with armaments that piled in with the 2014 western capture of the governance of Ukraine. It started with the barrage of attacks on Russians in the east, the persecution of them, their religion and even their language- a cultural annihilation. I could go on.
The mystery is why Russia took so long to invade. In holding back it gave the west the impression that it could get away with a huge land grab and in due course topple Russia itself. Now western europe is frightened the boot is on the other foot. But Russia does not crave largely value barren western land in the way the west craves Russia's riches. It just needs these nutters to either choose to or be forced to leave it in peace. That is the generosity of spirit to which Trump referred.
Hi Richard and Nathan, this film is very good, but it's also a really interesting example of how social media targeting is used. The 'covid' dissenters, a lot of whom came from the Brexit camp and tended to be right-wing, were all linked to this film a couple of days after the initial march into Ukraine by limited Russian forces. We were in on it from the beginning.
MSM was of course fed 'unprovoked, unjustifiable, full-scale invasion'.
Western Ukraine started bombing Eastern Ukraine after that coup when the Maidan happened, 2014 Eastern Ukraine is all Russian speaking residents they have always felt a part of Russia. Ukraine always has been part of Russia in the past, only during 2ndww it was bordered off from the motherland. Really bad idea because Crimea was made part of Ukraine and its Russia's only seaport except for way up north
of course it was not Ukraine per se, it was people like Nuland and Pyatt and Sullivan and the brain-dead man in the white house. It started when a plan was drawn up in first Washington and then Brussels on how to defeat a Russia not at war with anybody (NATO's preferred wars). They bought up the youths through AID's money -- come to the US for a year's training and leave our choice for your legislature! -- and then stage-managed a coup with such pals as Poland and Lithuania who trained the snipers to trigger the mayhem. Then we chose the government and okayed the war against e. Ukraine. Oh, and I forgot -- Russia send a detailed demarche to DC to tell them that Russia was demanding security negotiations with the US on NATO expansion and threats to Russia. the US totally ignored it until 2 months passed and then pissed on it. Did that help answer your question?
Stop LISTENING to Trump and look at what he does. Schizo is a tactic. He has to worry about internal opposition. Consider the lawfare against his domestic agenda. I'm personally expecting another assassination attempt, to be honest.
Then again, things are a bit slow on the front, and commentators need to comment. ;-)
Doublespeak comes out of doublethink, one toes the party line while simultaneously acknowledging reality. We are on Planet Orwell now and people pretend it is normal.
For sure we have, just not in the format that Orwell penned. He imagined it would be two super-states fighting it out, while making mental and physical slaves of their own people. That turned out to be a metaphor for western democracy. The continual political turmoil of our multi-party system is the 'bread and circus' that the elites use to keep the people at odds with one another, and as good as slaves.
Quite right, sorry. However taking his triumvirate as a direct stand-in for countries today, while more literal, is less interesting than as a metaphor for politics in general. Just my opinion of course.
Moreover, two of the super-states he created do not resemble today's reality. Russia is just one country in Eurasia out of many, as is China in Eastasia. Neither of those countries appear to be making super-states out themselves by subsuming others. Although I'll certainly grant you that US/NATO countries increasingly resemble Oceana.
It's probably more a matter of economic influence than political or military influence. Having said that, however, that these three countries maintain spheres of economic interest suggests marked political/military forces in the background protecting those interests. But I take your point.
Most fail to acknowledge that Orwell was a socialist who became very pessimistic about the future after WW2. By 1945 Orwell had became deeply disillusioned by Stalin's triumph in the USSR over his democratic socialist opponents on the left and right of the Bolshevik Party: led by Trotsky and Bukharin
In both 1984 and Animal Farm Orwell is using metaphor to describe the degeneration of the Russian Revolution which was exemplified by Stalin's defeat of Trotsky and the Left Opposition and all the horrors which flowed from that. Sadly, Orwell lost all faith in the future of socialism and any progress for humanity. Too many interpret his books incorrectly as some kind of prophesy for the future which I don't belevee was his intention.
We are on Planet Orwell, right? But this situation is not new. When I was young, doing my military service, it was clear that our enemy was the Soviets. These evil bastards were just waiting for their moment, and then they would roll with all these endless columns of tanks right through Western Europe, and no one could stop them until they reached Sevilla. This was the story, and to prevent this bad Soviet assault, we had to bring in the newest missiles, fighters, and tanks, the so-called "NATO Double-Track Decision". And now go to a public library near you. Check the headlines of the leading publications of this time (let's say 1985), and you will find again and again, the Soviets are the stronger; we must gear up. And then take out the IISS yearbook. A summary of all military forces of the time, obviously a very good one, because there were no complaints about the findings in their reports. Now count. You will find a completely different picture. It was all a lie. There was not a Soviet plan to roll over Europe. There was no modern Soviet army waiting to destroy the Western counterparts. The Soviet troops were more of the kind to suppress local opposition, like in Poland, CSSR, East Germany, or Hungary. But anyone who opposed the narrative was quickly silenced. To come back to my military service, I believed this shit about the Soviets because I was young. And here in Austria we were only training an assault from the East, meaning by the Soviets, but wait, Austria should have been a neutral country. But the lie was stronger, much stronger, and everyone bended their knees in front of this Gessler's hat.
Yes... Simplicius has totally missed the boat , as Trump has been using the same playbook on the domestic scene to throw off his opponents, seemingly flip flopping while always advancing towards his ultimate goal which we can suss out. In this case, Trump is trying to do a managed pullback of the US empire, as everything is stretched too thin. But there are still embedded elements who will take extreme measures if they think their grift from empire is fully threatened. The substance matters - he did initiate direct talkes with the Russians. He has said certain previous unutterable truths.. and he defenestrated Z the clown in the white house in front of the whole world.
Trump is not pulling back the US empire. It’s the same neocon warmonger hegemon playbook with different slogans. More illegal sanctions, regime changes and an increase in spending for the military industrial complex. His neocon agenda is all spelled out in the deep state think tanks that shape his term. He doesn’t seek peace, he’s simply moving onto the next proxy war because the US lost this one. Next up, sacrifice Taiwan and using the ZioFREAKS to attack Iran. Research “Project 2025” & “America First Policy Institute” and it becomes clear what his deep state funded agenda really is. https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-04.pdfhttps://agenda.americafirstpolicy.com/strengthen-leadership
Which group is over represented, relative to their numbers, in most Western countries as far as entertainment, business, and politics are concerned ? Why ?
Well....yes and no. Although Trump is a dedicated Zionist, the Jews had too much at stake to allow him to win. Why? Simply because he was untested with regards to the genocide going on. They knew well where Camela stood, so it was known against unknown. They knew he might well win, so they took the only option available to get him out of the race.
No, the neocons may want the hegemony to continue, but empires always cost quite a bit to maintain. At some point, when the vassal states have been sucked dry (see Europe, Aust etc), empires always pull back. If they don't, then they implode. Such movements in history are unavoidable, it's just how the interactions of human nature (greed and all) play out. Trump knows thta without a serious pullback, US will end up taking a bigger beating.
Not really, its just that it's time to rule the world by weaponising tech, AI, space, communication and start implementing whatever dystopian plans they have. Look at the whole range of tech bros he had in his inauguration and everything they're involved in.
Not really? They tried to kill him twice. The whole deep state media (all mainstream media) hates him. Well nevermind, maybe it's all some double-fake.
I am as American as one can be. My ancestors came here in the 1700s. Those “websites” I posted are Trump’s think tank policy papers, the same ones that actually shape his term. Research them & you will notice that everything Trump is saying & doing is almost verbatim in these deep state neocon think tanks. From “division of labor”, “pivot to Asia” and everything in between, it’s more of the same neocon bullshit with different slogans.
I repeat 'shat some garbage'. This has no resemblance to what Trump is doing, and if this was what he wanted, everything he is doing to date is counterproductive to that goal. The DoD is in disarray and so is the MIC.
I repeat, Trump is doing everything that are in these think tank policy papers. Is Trump destroying the MIC? No. He ordered NATO nations to increase spending to 5%. Look at MIC stocks. He just approved $870 million “security assistance” to Taiwan. More money for the MIC. Research them. It’s all written in these papers
Looking at this paper it looks like they are doubling down on their WW2 military structure. No serious mention of drone warfare, hypersonic missile development or the need for general surge capacity in case of a major conflict.
It’s the same full spectrum dominance nonsense copy pasted from previous years. These people have learned nothing years whether in the Middle East or in Ukraine.
Great comment, always start off by calling names /s.
Just fyi, I told everyone that Trump was going to win in early 2016, everyone thought I was crazy. But I had been travelling all over the country and the level of anger against the rigged system was very palpable. Him winning upset all the globalist plans ... think about it, otherwise the Ukraine war would have been precipitated earlier by Cackle Lady, when Russia would have been less ready to be autarkic. The covid scam would have even less pushback if done before 2020 as we wouldn't have set up our own alt-forums and exchanged vital medical information. The list can go on and on. Why do you think the establishment hated Trump with such a vengeance... sure, he ain't no saint.. and I don't see him as a savior. But he is playing a major part, and now he has a serious beef after 4 years of crazy persecution and prosecution against him.
" The covid scam would have even less pushback if done before 2020 as we wouldn't have set up our own alt-forums and exchanged vital medical information. "
Trump is the self professed father of the "vaccines" or did you conveniently forget ?
LOL little inbred faggot. The criminally insane ashkeNAZI produce so many truly hideous specimens (Kissinger, Kagan, Nuttyyahoo) due to centuries if inbreeding.
...ffs dude. I was standing on the Exit 140 Garden State Parkway clover leaf off 78, on the high SE side of the interchange, and I stopped my car to watch one tower drop. The smoke was streaming in what appeared to be a southerly direction - I was 10 miles away at least.
Lost about 60% of the SAs at the data center I ran for IBM that day. They were mostly wall street types that worked in the WTC complex.
I was born in Jersey City and I saw the towers going up as a young child. So yes, it happened. I also happened to be at the Pentagon a year plus later and saw the renovation work. That wasn't done for fun.
The photos of blood on his hand contradict his statement. And that is only one anomaly out of many. But do carry on believing everything the lying media and govt. says.
Oswald was a lone assassin, jet fuel brought down three towers even though one wasn't hit, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbour, etc. Are you getting the picture or still ignorant?
I read the articles you posted proving that the assassination attempt on Trump was faked, but didn’t find it convincing.
You’re told Trump’s supposed ear graze is a “miracle” - I’m atheist so agree miracles don’t exist. Calling it a miracle is just hyperbole, and is not evidence that the assassination attempt wasn’t real
Likelihood = zilch. No - just very low.
If the establishment wanted him dead, they wouldn’t have failed. This was an attack by a single person
We are not talking about attacked. The topic is an assassination attempt. So you obfuscated the discussion with irrelevance. Humans are easily deceived into believing what they want you to. lol, Best wishes, Yoni.
Have you considered the possibility he was really murdered? It makes a lot of sense, there are multiple evidences, and you cant back up your claims whatsoever. No, I think he was set to have his skull blown live on TV, as a kind of mass terror intimidation to the American population and the world just like 9-11. Other American enemies of the British empire were also executed. they tried to trigger civil unrest or even a civil war to make their agenda through. This could be the strange reason they chose Kamala as a candidate, which was extremely odd and unwinnable. They wanted somebody to be hated by the MAGA crowd, and she was playing her dumb role very well. These vampyres live out of blood, pain and death. I think he is aware he was touched by God. Sadly, he has very few cards but God willing he will make his way through.
You are easily deceived like most people drinking the many false narrative Kool-Aid. lol The bigger joke is how easy it is to control a population that thinks they know what's really going on.
Have you considered the possibility he was really murdered? It makes a lot of sense, there are multiple evidences, and you cant back up your claims whatsoever. No, I think he was set to have his skull blown live on TV, as a kind of mass terror intimidation to the American population and the world just like 9-11. Other American enemies of the British empire were also executed. they tried to trigger civil unrest or even a civil war to make their agenda through. This could be the strange reason they chose Kamala as a candidate, which was extremely odd and unwinnable. They wanted somebody to be hated by the MAGA crowd, and she was playing her dumb role very well. These vampyres live out of blood, pain and death. I think he is aware he was touched by God. Sadly, he has very few cards but God willing he will make his way through.
Plus he pretty much has to at least appear to do everything the Israel lobby / Zionists want, the Israel lobby is that powerful in the US : disagree with them and you get nothing done. Yes I'm sad and angry about that but at the moment it's a fact of life.
I think he has made a deal with them, he wont oppose them, and they let him fix US domestic situation. And because the domestic issues pretty much have to be fixed now , or democrats will win every election in perpetuity by importing tens of millions new voters etc.
Maybe Israel will meanwhile destroy themselves with their madness and do the world peace a favor.
Sorry, I have tried to hope for the best with Trump. I can understand the internal opposition. It is very real, but the idea of chasing Elensky around to sign a worthless "deal" seems too far, the truth is Trump is following the Clown Kellogg plan "leaked" 2 months ago. Now he has Ukraine agreeing but not really agreeing he is going to begin threatening Russia with giving more aid to Ukraine and sanctions to Russia. There will be no ceasefire from Russia so how does Trump "hide" that from his pro Ukraine DC swamp??
trumptard. zion don is just playing his part for the jew. Zelnsky is a disgusting jew but he actually held his own against zion Don and weirdo vance who had it planned. When will wiedo vance and zion don ever talk to Nentanyahu about not having any card with the US supporting his illegal genocidal state?
I doubt there ever was any assassination attempt...seemed like a gimmick to give him clear victory. He wouldn't be the President seemingly doing whatever he wants with no real opposition, if the powers to be didn't permit. How come there has been no discussion or details given by Trump team about the perpetrators of previous supposed assassination attempts? There's total silence about that.
The story is simple. The system had lost conttol over public on both sides, and a new narrative/method was needed to calm the sheep down. Look at how analysts are twisting into pretzels to present Trump's random rhetoric as some 5d chess! He is incoherent, there are things he knows and believes and there are things he's required to say or do and he just keeps mixing them up because he can't keep quiet. I don't think he's creating confidence anywhere..domestically and outside. The madman strategy can backfire seriously if it's without any substance.
I'm sick of hearing people defend Trump whose sole aim is to revive the fortunes of the American empire and continue the massive wealth transfer which has been going on in the US with abandon since 2008 GFC.
Wouldn't surprise me, although a chicken curry has been the UK national dish for the past 30 years plus. But a White Nationalist like him wouldn't eat an Indian CURRY!!
Would be hilarious if Voldemort's last act was to leave assassins behind for Zaluzhny's return.
Course, Russia would get the blame, but I think they're beyond caring now.
Or any Ukrainian porker big honcho, untidy or unshaven mafia style thugs. Umerov or penis pismo player masqerading as an Ukrainian ..to name a few. Or Yermak...
I still have a hard time buying that this is not a doppelganger Zaluzhny, and that the real one was killed. He looks totally different than Zaluzhny Mark 1, and trying to find any video of Zaluzhny giving a speech before April 2023 yields nothing. This guy and Budanov were always giving updates until going on hiatus after the missile strike in April 2023. Then Zaluzhny vanishes, goes to his daughter’s wedding in Cyprus, hands out some prize at an Odessa science fair, gets blamed for Nordstream, etc. Finally we get the camera shy, chubby, younger Zaluzhny Mark 2 marinating in London. Color me skeptical…
My Dear dear friends remember remember these few words (All this Shit will never ever stop till Russia grows a man's pair of balls and kills the U-SA) Remember these few words to the best for all of you
The fear enveloping the Europeans is pleasant to behold. They need to stop talking out of their asses and accept reality. No one is attacking Russia. Russia won't believe it.
If they are foolish enough to do so, I hope God has mercy on them, because Russia won't.
The Russian army entered Paris, then the tsar was cheated out of any lasting advantage by the colluding Cabal schemers at the Vienna Congress. He was just as naive as Putin used to be, trusting the West.
I think Trump does know what Russia is saying, but he's trying to appear that he's giving Ukraine a chance to come to their senses and negotiate realistically.
He does this "art of the deal" act all the time, excoriating someone and then praising them. I'm sure that Putin also realizes this.
Trump and Putin both know that the problem here is the Euros. Russia is being patient but firm with their hysterical nonsense, while Trump is trying to get Ukraine to surrender before the Euros do something even stupider that what they are doing now, which would force Russia's hand.
Peace is the goal. The two superpowers are trying to get the unruly kids to be disciplined and rational. If project Ukraine is ended, it will help settle down the brats who want to fight over it.
That fire sack has been the Russian version of a shooting gallery for foreign mercs that has gotten rid of close to 100k of neonazi's to date. Being dead is the only cure for stupid it seems. Cheers.
I think this is all kabuki theatre setting the scene for the US to ditch Ukraine. They have to make it look like they tried, but the meter is running on being blamed for the collapse if they take too long. Already we are seeing the narrative about Kursk shift to blaming the cutting off of intelligence and weapons for the collapse
I changed my mind. This is a Vietnam scenario. The point of the 1973 peace "Peace with honor" was to separate the US from the inevitable fall of the South. They are trying this again.
The Americans see to think the Russians are like them and just say stuff that will mean nothing next week or even be reversed. The Russians mean what they say and say what they want but the US seems to not listen
Well the political class at least. There are many sane, rational and intelligent Americans but that is not what mostly rises to the top in western politics. A quick lap of western countries revels a leadership list of clueless idealogues. The exceptions stand out like beacons , for me Orban would be one.
800 billion budget to go to war against Russia, say 2030-35. It will take 10 years to get EU on 1 line to get fully operational, meanwhile EU citizens are being handcuffed or is it an extortion by the exit NATO and EU cabal and would be Tsars: Macron 2 in 3 want him out, Trudeau 2 months and back to school, Scholz auf wiedersehn, and within 10 years Trump, Zelensky, Ursula, Putin will be dead or taken out, and Ukraine looted and deserted like the Sahara.
And Merz. He might just end up having less than 5% public support BEFORE he even starts his term. That's got to be some kind of record.
Serves right the millions of morons who voted for him, mostly middle-aged and older, who will live to see their life's savings wiped out during his term.
Well, I believe that US and Russia will come to some accommodation, but that Europe and Zelensky will not. Where does that leave us? USA walks away, demands elections, Russia demands elections, and they wait until Ukraine is so devastated that it holds elections? At the end of the day, Zelensky doesn't have to resign, he's allowed to keep fighting, and the EU is allowed to keep funding him. What are Russia and the USA going to do then?
Europe is broke as hell. Without USAID to fund the money from the US printing press, they don't have anything - seriously. Having the 'reserve currency' does convey a whole host of advantages.
Duh, regime change ofcourse! The USA has a huge track record and they mastered the technique. A couple of sanctions will do. It so happens we don’t have many resources. Just prevent oil, steal and other critical resources from coming in to Europe, block access to SWIFT and before you know the population will stand up and topple the elites. Something similar as in France in 1789. Nuland will of course bring the cookies to the party 🥳
The E.U. is the wildcard. The first European empire since Charlemagne, with Germany re-arming for the first time since WWll, this time with French Nukes backing them. Cancelling the Romanian election, arresting the most popular politician in the country, then threatening to deprive Hungary of voting rights. 800 million people and 23 nations under the E.U. Empire, which will now issue debt that every citizen in 23 countries is obligated to repay. So a Spanish car mechanic has to pay taxes to a German factory to send artillery to Ukrainians conscript to kill Russian soldiers. Crazy. And lets not forget that German tanks, French missiles, and British artillery are on Russian soil killing Russian citizens and civilians.
The truth is that the European politicians want power- military power, financial power, debt power- over all of Europe. This is their goal, they are wedded to it, and the Ukraine war is a pivot to achieve all these goals. Only then can they sit at the table with China and Russia and the USA as a 'Civilization- State' and request their piece of the global pie. And they are happy to destroy their own nations, nationalities, languages, religions, race, etc to achieve this goal. So they are certainly not worried about destroying Ukraine or angering Russia to achieve it either. In fact, it is necessary, because only the 'betrayal' by USA and the 'existential threat' of 'evil Russia' can justify their power grab, wasteful spending, oppressive bureaucracy, and destruction of national identity. Without the Ukraine war, the E.U. project falls apart. The EU must continue the Ukraine war to achieve their domestic objectives. As the woman said 'peace is more dangerous than war', because for the EU politicians, it is.
However, this is very risky. Both Russia and the USA are unlikely to want a centralized, debt-financed military empire controlling a unified Europe. And they may be willing to do something about it. And China is unlikely to do do much about it. So Europe is, in my opinion, playing a very dangerous hand.
Europe is in an extremely difficult situation. They have been squeezed economically by the US for decades. Now they are being squeezed by Russia geopolitically. They are the big losers in the Russia US reproachment. Without their neocolonial projects (Ukraine being a major one) they face a debt spiral of death. Monetary expansion without some decent collateral will lead to increased stagflation and eventually hyperinflation and currency collapse. Interestingly they seem intent on expediting said collapse. Desperate times.
Liked, because overall you're right, but respectfully disagree in a key detail: "The first European empire since Charlemagne"
Beating up on their own unarmed civilians does not make them an empire, it only makes them an alliance of police states. You can't be an empire without military force that can defeat rival empires, and the EU does not have that, not even close. Elon Musk, an individual, is wealthy enough to muster sufficient mercenary force to tear the guts out of Brussels. The "EU" has no chance against Russia.
Even if you use the term "empire" very loosely to mean influence and not real power, even there they are not the first since Charlemagne. Two real empires come to mind, albeit both short lived: Napoleon's empire, and the Third Reich. Those combined absolute dominance of Europe with genuine military power.
Both of those empires, not that the EU will understand the lesson, also erased any chance of being enduring empires when they attacked Russia.
Nice reply, but I just have to say that logistically, attacking Russia is more possible today than it was in 1812 or 1941, but none of the current players has a snowball's chance in hell of being able to do it. I'm not even going to venture to say whether I think it could be done. I am thinking of a China threat, also.
And let's be clear, logistics is what destroyed every invasion attempt of Russia. Not devaluing the efforts of the Russian soldier, just stating bald facts as at least one Tsar agreed.
Lazy europeans should not have let Eurocrats create this monstrosity. For the record, EU is 450 million people but it is enough ”meat” to squeeze out debt and blood from, as you wrote.
I am amazed how they have un-Brexited UK and letting the little Brits run a European show. First derailing peace-attempts and then putting gasoline on the Ukrainian fire. UK has overtaken the old US maxim: do whatever it takes to hold the Germans of Russia.
And the stupid krauts are voting for the even more stupid Merz…
Apparently a lot of the functionaries from the WW2. German Empire went on to work in creating the EU, as they had the track record in managing European integration….
I agree with most of what you say. However, we part ways on the issue of "empire". I believe that the EU was formed with that in mind eventually. However, events of the last decade or so indicates that the EU reached its peak around the time of Brexit. The departure of the UK from the union caused an earthquake that is still producing aftershocks to this day, putting the idea into the heads of a rapidly growing number in Europe that perhaps the UK was right and that the monstrous EU leadership is indeed looking to destroy their sovereignty and establish an authoritarian, unelected bureaucratic autocracy that will smother their freedoms, destroy their individual and unique cultures through unlimited immigration and growing pressure for central control over virtually every aspect of European life. You see this growing revolution popping up all over Europe as people begin to wake up.
So in summary, I would propose that what we are actually witnessing is the final death throes of the EU, grasping at anything that will put off the inevitable, even to the extent of destroying their own economies and promoting endless war.
It's complex - the economy issue, that is. However, the spirit of Brexit - independence, sovereignty, control of borders, etc - have sparked an awakening across the EU in many countries. At least the freedom to choose their own path is now a reality for the UK - though how successfully they made use that choice is a matter for discussion. As a British citizen, I am not at all happy with many of the choices our governments since Brexit have handles their new found freedoms - indeed, many of those decisions have significantly limited our individual freedoms.
Your point is valid regarding unelected bureaucratic autocracy. They have embraced the "woke" ideology and energy policies which are crippling their economies .
The EU countries have the same problems that all the western countries have : they keep promising more and more to hold onto power . Politics is a popularity contest and people vote with their wallets .The debt/deficits grow and grow and no one is game to stop it as its electoral poison . The defence budgets have been cut over time until they are unable to maintain anything but a token military . Brexit was supposed to break the UK away from the EU but was scuppered by Boris and the politicians who were manipulated by the media into doing what they were told. At the moment when voting you get to pick between bad and worse and you know none of their promises are worth the paper their written on . The trouble with revolutions is that the people who run revolutions are often worse that the people being thrown out .
The EU is not the wild card, they are the dumbfucks elephants in the china shop.
Yes, Ukraine has helped the cause of EU Council expansion/imperialism.
But Ukraine has also tremendously damaged the economies of the Western European nations such that neither the supportive "center" national governments nor the Western European population views on the EU are either growing or positive. In fact, the latter.
But reality has never been a barrier to bureaucrats/apparatchiks - which both EU ministers and Western European political leaders are these days. Not leaders but bean counters - and not even good bean counters because they are counting magic beans.
EU is done. More factions of power want it destroyed. Even , if they go to war against Russia, they are done. Because everyone will understand that they can carve up EU after any war .
The bit about Russia being weaker than it might appear, is just a nod to the constant Ukrainian propaganda that still insists that Russia is on the brink of collapse. The west must not let up now... blah blah blah.
This Ukraine garbage kicked off this war as Biden believed it- Russia could be toppled easy peasy, and then just think of all those resources!!!!
And it is still firing its automatic rounds.
Ye Gods, this is not the west's war. Get the hell out of it and leave it to end as it should have ended years ago with the destruction of a rogue gansgster regime in a region of vital security importance to Russia.
It is the wests war. The west started it, supplied the proxy miitary with everything it needed from training to weapon systems to propaganda in Ukraine and all over the world (USAID hello). Billion upon billions of dollars of it.
You seem to believe the lie that the USA is a neutral party. Wake up.
I am not sure who you are debating with, but it is clearly not me. Where did I say that the USA has behaved as neutral party. Biden was in it from the start! That does not mean the west in general or the US in particular has any LEGITIMATE interest here. They do not. Plenty of illegitimate ones though!
she just means its not in the west - get out of eastern europe and get out of the middle east and stay home...and fix stuff - like bridges, not protests. We're in for some bad times.
why ? I'm talking about the population. Trump ain't gonna suffer nor the bidens nor the clintons - except they're all getting old and must be getting scared to meet their Maker. Unless they've got some bargain with the devil about their lives after death. Maybe you don't believe in that ?
“This is not the west’s war” doesn’t mean literally that the west has nothing to do with it, but that the west SHOULD have nothing to do with it. As in: it is not in their interest.
I think Julianne is very well aware who is mostly to blame for this war, but maybe Julianne can proof me wrong😀
Well, "literally" it does mean just that which is why it got a response. It's how I read it too. It's a badly formed sentence then as it has to mean it's someone else's but it isn't; it's the West's in conception and execution, whatever the poster wanted it to say.
"Poor old" Biden was a ruthless, unprincipled, self-interested corrupt asshole, and he was stupid even before his brain wilted. While still undemented, he deliberately involved himself deeply in the most inhuman aspects of Ukrainian corruption, which is why he so stubbornly sank so much military aid in the failed state. He was defending his personal investments with his country's assets.
The U.S. hears and understands what the Rusdians are saying but they can't concede to the demands because that would mean having to admit their guilt.
The U.S. can't lose to Russia. Losing to Russia would mean it isn't the most powerful country. And that means loss of preemince.which it has come to accept as its rightful place
Yes, that is their strongest suit. Bullshit is what they excel at. As Orwell wrote in Politics and the English Language: “political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” Western media and it's armchair generals need dealing with.
Trump can't clean up the mess if he's trying to save face. Trump is only trying to conceal U.S culpability. That is what saving face is all about.
He constantly is repeating his new marketing slogans of, this war would never have happened if he had been president and that he's a president of peace.
Neither of these is true. You can't be an imperialist and a violator of the U.S. own one China policy while claiming to be a president of peace.
Even his approach to ending the Ukrainian war against Russia is insincere. He isn't for making a clean end to the war by just walking away. He wants to somehow redemption U.S. involvement in starting the war by settling it in the form of a deal where the U.S. comes away with something.
Such an end to the war will leave the U.S. with a continued presence in Ukraine and that presence will only serve as a trip wire of intimidation against Russia. Remember he says that he doesn't have to formally offer Ukraine security guarantees. That a U.S presence in Ukraine as a miner of its minerals and operator of its ports, that the U.S. will part owner of, will be enough of a security guarantee for Ukraine.
The U.S. wants to be in whatever portion of Ukraine that the Russians aren't in. This means that the U.S. occupied portion of Ukraine could one day once again become a breeding ground for Russophibia under a future administration.
The only way to peacefully end this war is with a clear Ukrainian surrender and no U.S. involvement in constructing the post war arrangement. That should be left for Russia to preside over, as the regional hegemon, with the countries of Poland, Hungary, Romania.
The U.S. has zero interest in Ukraine. Then the U.S. should in the same way exit Taiwan before it becomes the next Ukraine.
Taiwan has economic importance that Ukraine doesn't.
Envision the Kissinger/Nixon strategy of getting out of Vietnam. Apply it to this Ukraine situation. The important part is separating the US from blame for Ukraine's failure and Russia's triumph.
Taiwan is China and that's the only thing that matters. The U.S. is poking its nose in Taiwan where it doesn't belong. Just like it's nose never belonged in Ukraine.
Avoiding blame means having to lie. No one should die to protect a lie. If you try to cover up the truth you only make things worse.
Are Americans willing to accept a draft and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of its young people over Taiwan? Don't forget that the soldiers needed to fight this war will come from the huge segment of the U.S. population that has no share in the wealth of America.
Let the rich send their children to die. I'd like to see the children of the billionaires who attended Trump's inauguration and are members of his administration be forced to send their draft age children to the front lines.
The U.S. has already “lost to Russia”. It’s Trumps problem to make it look, at home, if not like victory at least like “Bidens” loss. Give him a little slack. I feel like both Trump and Putin understand each others positions. They both have ever screeching military genius mouths to feed at home.
Trump keeps talking ceasefire and that Putin shouldn't expect to get everything he wants.
Trump is wrong on both counts. Putin has won this war by defeating America's puppet government of Ukraine. And as the victor in any war, he doesn't have to compromise but gets to dictate terms.
Putin's terms are eminent reasonable and make more sense than Trump's reclaiming of the Panama Canal which was built on territory that previously belonged to the nation of Columbia but was stolen from it in a U.S. sponsored proxy war using Columbian rebels.
Putin's goals of denazification, demilitarization, removal of the post coup constitution and government leadership of Ukraine, the reclaiming of the annexed regions to the full extent of their boundaries as given by Russia when Russia transferred them to Ukraine, protection of the Russian speaking population in what remains of a postwar Ukraine, a Ukraine that is perpetual neutral, never a member of NATO or the E.U. (that last one is my thoughts) is based in reality and historical ties.
The U.S. case for reclaiming the Panama Canal has none of those elements.
The best solution to the problems in this war will have a better chance of being found by the people who live there. And without the interference of outside parties.
The U.S. made the mess so it isn't a neutral intervenor.
And this is the problem - coddling too much the American public. I wish the USSR told the truth last time around, in the 1960s, that the US put nukes in Turkey, and in response, the USSR put nukes in Cuba, vs. letting JFK "save face." It got to the point that Americans can't stomach the truth, since it contradicts exceptionalism & "white hat of the world" myth.
Do you think the US ever had comfort with the truth? I don't think so. In the War of 1812, the US was essentially the aggressor, as it has been in literally every foreign war. The population can't be told the truth lest they not follow along.
Agreed, but the abysmal ignorance of Americans to what's going on is horrifying. Other countries propagandize own population, but here it's simultaneous non-stop propagandizing, stupefying and enforcing the delusion of exceptionalism, all at the same time, and all the time - Americans can't stand a chance in such bombardment.
Indeed. But Trump has been extremely candid about the origin of the War. The ever expanding NATO to the borders of Russia for example. He has said that Ukraine provoked the War on themselves. If Rubio now concede that it is a proxy War, then it isnt so much left to say. Normal people, the 20% in each country, understands the Truth. Sadly the other 80% always carries their countries astray.
Both. Humans just dont want to bother their lifes with the Powerelites geopolitical games. But it will affect them one way or another. The people I detest are those who should be able to understand, who are informed, who has received warnings, who has lived a long life and experienced various aspects of powergaming and still just sit there mumbling and fiddling.
Once the baby boomer generation dies off, and the young generation that gets their information from real sources and not from the MSM, then these phony BS wars and the constant feeding of the MIC will die. They are recognizing the evil in our government and fighting back, ie, the young hackers that are helping Elon expose the vast corruption in the US government. Before you get all pissed off at me for maligning the boomers, I am 69 and have recognized for years that far too many of my generation are democrat voting, MSM consuming, misinformed morons, that brag about how they don't even know how to turn on a computer. Their technological ignorance is exactly what has allowed our evil government to get as corrupt as it has. This same technology that our government uses against us is now being used against them to inform the masses of the vast corruption in government. Hopefully the masses will wake up and fight back. I'm not convinced yet that they will, because of the American stupidity that I have witnessed in my life thus far, but I haven't given up hope.
These real sources are real for now, but the Cabal is getting ready to subvert them. AI doppelgangers are being developed to impersonate and quietly replace the dissenting voices on the web, and bring blogs like this one into the fold. Read Simplicius's warning at:
DUDE! Nailed it. I'm 73 and I know more than a couple that you reference here. Dumb as a box of hammers. Leaves me breathless. The more formal the education...the dumber they are. Bigly sad...
The US will walk away. Hopefully, sooner because then Trump can blame Biden. Trump has cards to work with because he didn't cause this war. He can create a safe saving narrative unlike Biden. So I suspect that they will move on from this war soon. It doesn't have to be a surrender. They can sell a redemption story. Blame USA warmongers. Speak up about a new USA who is for peace , unity and redemption
The U.S. would probably never verbally concede because it finds that intolerable. But don't forget that the U.S. literally ran from Vietnam, Somalia and Afghanistan. Trump is in the process of leaving Europe now. And we'll have to wait to see how far that process goes.
The Europeans and the U.S. Deep State are fighting hard to keep the U.S. in Europe. And we can't forget that Trump isn't leaving Europe because he wants peace. He's leaving because he wants to focus on war with China. He sees China as America's number one enemy right now.
On a personal basis Trump is separating himself from any association with the war by rebranding himself as a president of peace. And constantly reminding us that the war never would've happened had he been president.
This though makes no sense because there was a time when he was president and the war was happening but he never raised one objection to the war. He never talked about ending it in 24 hours. He instead sent javelin anti-tank missles to the Ukrainian army. Imposed sanctions on Russia and kicked Russian diplomats out of the U.S.
Trump's whole messaging is off. Now he wants to bring peace but on the basis that the U.S. saves face and is able to somehow keep its foot in the door where it doesn't belong.
That isn't peaceful. That means ongoing war. The words peace and America don't belong in the same sentence.
All Ukraine's men are Russians, so Russia definitely does not want that. Not everyone out there is as unprincipled and vindictive as the US and UK, don't project.
Pretty incredible that the spent, collapsed, exhausted, weaponless AFU was able to recapture Toretsk. Sometimes we need to face our own cope, no?
As for Trump, he is such a disappointment. He can't even make a stupid tariff stick against CANADA. Regardless of the wisdom of it, he dithers and walks back and backs off so easily. I really expected Trump 2.0 to be more resolved than this. So the peace talks I reckon are mostly BS. He is focusing on Ukraine because Ukraine costs him money.
As for Russia, they need to come to grips with the reality that Europe, UK, Ukraine, will be permanently hostile for years to come, and organise themselves accordingly. I have doubts they will prevail
I think it was the bit where you claim the AFU recaptured Toretsk. It took the Russians many months to take the city. Do you really think the Ukrainians can recapture it in a few days?
I found 2 comments from you. Presumably you are referring to the "withdrawal and kill everyone who steps back in" one.
Sounds nice, but, as Simplicious and most mappers are pointing out, the city was wholly controlled by the RuAF, and now it is not. Its a fairly important place too, so, you can continue to write exasperated comments but I think I will accept what's in front of me
We have been here enough times for me to take it as history repeating itself. But if for you, this time it is different, fine, just watch how it unfolds.
There is something called fog of war. RuAF was in full control of the city, then the AFU re-infllitrated in parts. I expected them to be expelled almost immediately, but then the infiltration grew and grew, to the extent that RuAF was forced to retreat to the east. The AFU has made similar captures of Udachyne (sp) and other minor spots. Wartears has almost reported a 75% reduction in AFU casualties over the past week (if you rate their analysis, I think its pretty useless). I mention Toretsk because of its strategic importance and not the other spots because they are irrelevant. There are different commanders handling different areas and it is possible that something went wrong.
It is telling to me that rather than engage in substance of what is happening on the front, you try to resort to an ad hominem against me. So, please, let us part ways here, skip over my comments in the future.
Look at WWII. From spring 1943 onwards, the Germans had some superb combat units. Well equipped, well trained. They shifted them from one place to another. These units achived unbelivable results. But the very moment the Soviets knew where these few units were, they started an attack at another place, penetrated the German lines and destroyed a lot of normal German divisions. And of course, the propaganda showed the perfect results of these few superb units, and a lot of people believed it, until the Germans in Prussia found out the hard way, that the war is not won by such tiny elite units. Look more on the general Russian tactics, as Peter the Great did it, Kutuzov did it and Shukov did it and all three of them won on the long run.
What is your sense on Russian casualties? I think the 100k mediazona is too low, maybe lags by 3-4 months. I accept your argument - Russians have superior logistics and industry for sure. But is it as expensive for them in 2025 as it was in ww2? I dont doubt that toretsk will eventually be fully controlled, but wow this is really like pulling teeth
I think the Russian losses are lower, and the Ukrainian are higher. Mediazona is doing very scientific work, but even they have to follow some narratives. Since WWI, we know when the real losses occur, meaning any form of movement, and which weapon is the most important one—artillery and aerial bombs. Drones increased the killing capacity of these dramatically. Only Russia has gun barrels that can deliver exact hits; most of the Ukrainian ones are worn out. The Russians seem to have two to ten times more shells (depending on which source you use). And then comes another big factor: medical service. Only a very few soldiers are immediately killed by the enemy. They got internal injuries from the blast, splinters penetrating the skin, or some other cruel damage to the body. The question is, are you able to make a quick first treatment so that the soldier lives a little longer, and after this, can you ASAP bring him to higher-level medical care? The faster, the more chance that a healthy soldier will leave the hospital; the slower, the more are dead or disabled. It was Dima from militarysummary who pointed out that the Russians always start an offensive with drones controlling the ways in and out of the attack zone. This means, while the Russians can easily transport the wounded out of the combat zone, the Ukrainians cannot! Maybe to understand the extreme work of Russian helpers, look at the videos of the attack on the Terricon in Avdeivka. Whenever a vehicle was hit, immediately another vehicle was there, loading the wounded and returning home. I think the Russian commander used more than half of his force on the rescue operation (maybe more). I have never heard of such tactics by the Ukrainians.
I wonder if we are seeing an "inter war" period right now where drones and infantry fight together, but in the near future wars will be mostly drone-on-drone at exponential scale. I suspect the Chinese, if they ever show what they can do, will present a battlefield where there are 100 drones for every soldier. In the battle of drone vs EW I think drone eventually wins, because of autonomy, and so the best defense against a drone will be another drone.
First, do your research. Trump paused SOME tariffs. 2, some companies from Canada and Mexico are planning to move to the USA. 3, don't discount the fact that Trump paused intel, weapons, and satellite. 4, don't overestimate toresk. It will soon become a trap like Kursk.
It’s been quite a rollercoaster trip, the last couple of weeks. It has been very rough for me the last week with the utter stupidity and lies coming from these EU creatures, the politicians and Mark Rutte.
And the dishonesty from the US criminals too. These scumbags in the USA really do believe that if they pretend they had nothing to do with goading the ukranian military in to attacking their own for 8 years with the ultimate aim of drawing Russia in to the conflict, that we will go along with the charade.
the Trumptards have no trouble swallowing the lies and obfuscations as they don't have critical thinking skills in abundance.
He's one of many prime candidates for a good Gaddaffying.
In fact, if you go back to the Dutch year of disaster in 1672, when the liberal DeWitt brothers were the leaders, you'll find the good citizen's of the republic got hold of them, killed them and cannibalised some of their remains. Will history repeat itself? 😁🤞
Like so many others, you allow yourself to be misdirected towards the stuffed scarecrow stooges. Yes, they are reprehensible, but should be beneath your contempt. Save your hatred for the masters.
No, Trump is very intelligently erecting a smokescreen of conflicting statements, behind which he is working consistently towards his ends. It's like the drone cage on the turtle tanks; it looks silly, but it works.
Disclaimer: note that I am not saying Trump is principled or noble; just that he is clever. No endorsement is implied. But stupid he is not.
It is much easier to predict the moves, as in chess, if the players are rational and competent. But hardly anyone is, these days. Even the Russians, who are clearly the adults in the room, often allow timidity and generosity to overcome their interest. Everyone judges by himself, and the Russians mistakenly project their own attitudes on the adversary---this has been the source of many wasted opportunities.
The others, of course, are much, much worse when it comes to rationality, not to even mention competence. So overall, I have no confidence in what is going to happen either, mostly because of that. Too much brain rot inevitably breeds chaos.
When you say, "there’s no way Russia could allow a militarily-pumped up hostile power to loom over its citizens again", are you suggesting this war started because Ukraine was looming over Russia? Honest question - in the US we are told the war started because of unprovoked Russian imperialism. So how did this war really start?
This war started in the 1940s. Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen
Napoleon of course, now with his grand grand children?
The Americans moved nato further and further east from Germany. That's the most important "why" of why this war started.
oh, the other Old Members also wanted to expand. It was not just the USA that was ignorant and without any vision at all.
The nato is the usa. It doesn't matter what the other members did or did not want. I'd Washington said expand, they all went along with it.
it is true that I cannot recall a time other than (was it the 80s?) when the Europeans turned down the stationing of US missiles there. But that was then. You are right that they would never have defied the US in any serious way, but that does not mean that many of them were not fully and eagerly on board.
It started by the US and it's vassals pushing NATO up to Russia's doorstep by overthrowing the democratically elected president of Ukraine in the Maiden Coup in 2014.
From then until Russia intervened in 2022, the Russian speaking Ukrainians of the Donbass were bombarded by the US installed regime, who were trained, supplied and funded by the US.
That's the short version. Anytime you see "Unprovoked Russian invasion", you are reading propaganda.
Thanks. I will look into that.
If you really want to look into it, the US started framing Ukrainian fascists as good guys and setting them up for destabilizing Russia before WWII was over. LtGen Gehlen (Nazi head of East European Intelligence) surrendered to the US before WWII was over. Gehlen partnered with Allen Dulles to set up remain behind forces in most European countries in what became Operation Gladio (umbrella title as it had different names in different countries). Gehlen also set up remain behind forces in Ukraine in what became the CIAs largest overseas operation.
Dulles brought Mykola Lebed (one of the leaders of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists - OUN - working with Stepan Bandera) to the US. Once in the US, Lebed was installed at the Prolog Research Corporation, a CIA publishing house designed to promote Ukrainian nationalist sentiment through fascist organizations. After the Church Commission Prolog was made an NGO with the CIA donating rather than running it directly.
US efforts were run through: Project Icon, Project Aerodynamic (indirectly preceded by Redsox and more directly by Androgen) QRPLUMB, and PDDYNAMIC. Icon started during WWII. Aerodynamic ran from 1949 to 1970. PDDYNAMIC ran till 1991.
From 1991 to 2013 the US spent over $5 billion to promote "democracy" (find Victoria Nuland's National Press Club speech from Dec 2013 where she declares this) meaning the US was continuing efforts preceded by the aforementioned projects started in WWII. Among other things, that money paid for a coup in 2004 commonly called, the Orange Revolution.
On 29 August 2005 the US signed a treaty with Ukraine establishing biological research labs in violation of the UN Biological Weapons Convention. This treaty is still posted on the US State Department website. In the name of safety and non-proliferation the US funded multiple facilities through the DoD (contract still on the US GSA website) employing US company, Black & Veatch (among others), to carry out maintenance and renovations. The US stored, transported and conducted research on pathogens at these sites.
There are over 3,800 US FOIA released documents describing Project Aerodynamic on the US gov website, the CIA Reading Room. All of this is backed up by US documents and US official government statements. By the time you add the other programs, there are over 5,000 publicly available official US records.
You don't need one single Russian statement.
Bonus: the US DTRA produced PR videos about these sites until 2021. In 2022 they were scrubbed from the internet, but with digging they are still on the Internet Archive. There are also facilities in Kazakhstan and Georgia (in Tbilisi, Georgia it's named after Sen Lugar identifiable on Google maps).
Then the US started negotiating the placement of CIA bases (reported in the NYT after the CIA gave an interview) in Ukraine prior to 2014 placed along the border with Russia. In 2014 Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador Pyatt got caught picking Ukraine's government (recording still available online). Then there was a coup that toppled Ukraine's government again.
If you want to understand the rationale for US actions start with Zig Brzenzinski's 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard. If you want to understand Brzezinski, look into Prof H. Mackinder and his, Heartland Theory of Geopolitics.
This fight with Russia goes back before the Soviet Union and the Cold War. Brzezinski uses MacKinder's terms and concepts but updates them for modern, post Soviet geopolitical context.
If you are still curious, the 2019 Rand Corporation Report Extending Russia lays out how the US should use Ukraine (and Moldova, Romania, the Caucasus region i.e. Georgia, and NATO expansion and sanctions) to hurt Russia. This was published three years before Russia's 2022 offensive. And on page 100, it says Ukraine would likely lose with catastrophic losses and an unfavorable negotiated peace, but in context of the report, it's worth it because Russia would be hurt.
There are another 10 or so books coming out of US think tanks or people like Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol. Or you can look up Sen John McCain and Sen Linsey Graham vists to Ukraine long before 2022. McCain visited so many times and funneled so much money to Ukraine, Kiev named a street after him before he died.
That's the tip of the iceberg. If you dissect the 1994 Budapest Memo - actually read it, the US violated it the moment it was signed. The US offered NATO membership to Ukraine in 2008, which violated the Memo as did both coups which are war crimes in their own right. In the US's case, the Memo was signed but never made law by Congress because it would not have passed. So, it was an agreement without force of law in the US. But it did authorize any signator to intervene if another signator used Ukraine militarily, economically, or politically against another signator. The US did this multiple times. By the time Russia went into Ukraine the US violated it more times than Ted Bundy violated women on a date.
There is a lot more. Suffice it to say, Russia was provoked.
Holy shit dude that's a masterpiece! Spectacular comment - thank you!!
"The Truth IS out There"
Julianne should read this.
The post-WWII US strategy is certified by a publication of the National Archive (Washington DC) researchers on declassified files of the archive (HITLER’S
SHADOW - Nazi War Criminals, U.S. Intelligence, and the Cold War. Richard Breitman and Norman J.W. Goda. Published by the National Archives. Chapter 5: Collaborators: Allied Intelligence and the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, p. 73ff. Washington DC, 2010.)
German Bundesnachrichtendienst in Pullach played an important role in this hidden war against the Soviet Union.
There is not enough hate focused on them creepy Dulles boys.
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you mean the jew
Agree to an extent Dilligaf, indifferent action, spent subduing Psychopaths, who dominate our culture is required! Somehow the truly evil often get helicoptered out or elected.
Interesting point about a proxy war.
"Russia isn’t using a proxy: it is fighting a war against the US’ and Europe’s proxies, which makes it an unequal contest given that Russians are losing lives and Americans are not. This makes it even more egregious for the predators themselves to demand compromises from Russia."
It reminds me of Assad saying the Syrians had like a hundred different nationalities of mercenaries, (they had captured), in their prisons. Immediately the North Korean 'facts' come back to life. Push comes to shove, look out when the Russian proxies show up!
Make a list of countries NATO and/or the US/Western powers have assaulted! Do you think the countries attacked have forgotten the color revolutions we finance?
So the act of aggression is considered a grievous crime. Borrowing money to do evil, insisting an obviously propagandized constituency must repay. All this highlights the insanity of rabid global leadership.
For Trump to double down with sanction threats, is proof he is cooperating with Putin.
Don't get me wrong, Putin has shown way more signs of wanting peace than he is credited. Let the EU blow it's wad trying to help Nazi's. Ultimately I lament the brainwashed millions, throwing their lives away for nothing but corporate profit, bringing endless agony for the slave classes.
Occasionally confront young men considering military service. Ask one question mister! Why do so many front line combat veterans commit suicide?
It is a crucial point, that Russia is not fighting a proxy war. The US is. NATO is. Russia is in a direct fight.
And when the full measure of what Russia can do but hasn't or how many olive branches it offered are counted it is an astonishing feat. Unfortunately, it's mostly lost on most Westerners.
It is indeed egregious what is being done by the West.
Lured into conflict.
Edit:
And yes, Operation Paperclip has to do with it, too. It had placed high ranking Nazi bureaucrats into the American (and other Western Nations) society and transformed the West into what it has become. A mirror of these policies and agendas.
lol lol lol the "west" is controlled by the jew...
No, it is controlled by King ROI.
Good point!
It is hard to underestimate the impact of Operation Paperclip. Both the US and Soviets sought to learn what they could from captured Germans. But there is a huge practical difference.
The Soviets isolated the Germans. There was no trust and no attempt to offer redemption.
By contrast, the US assimilated and integrated them. Paperclip brought 1,000s of them to the US. Gehlen's full integration and work for the CIA falls outside the official included in Paperclip but reflects the same mindset. So does the US efforts in South America. As does integration of German leadership in NATO.
Very big deal.
Gehlen's writing shows he knew full well about his own impact and the impact of former Nazi officials on the US and the West.
excellent overview but name the jew.
JEWS like Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol
this all goes back to the jew hatred of the tsar and Russians in general.
Excellent analysis and cogent information. Thanks!
Hell you can look at old US publications from the 80s or so. Back then, it was still in vogue to point out that Ukrainians were diligent assistants to Hitler in prosecuting mass killings. The trials of Ivan Demjanjuk are the most notable vestige of that last attempt to clean up the Nazi war criminals that came into the US as part of the postwar refugee flood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Demjanjuk
But then this all fell into a memory hole when the neocons needed Ukraine to harass Russia.
Netflix has a good documentary about Demjanjuk "The Devil Next Door."
https://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Neighbors-Prosecuting-Criminals-America/dp/0151758239
That's how I first became aware, in the late 80s or so.
Rereading your masterful and erudite summation this morning (Mar 13/25), I want to express my gratitude. The information on the fascist activities, the partnership between Gehlan and Allen Dulles, Project Icon "during WWII" – implying that Gehlen and Dulles were in partnership long before Gehlen surrendered ... This is exciting new insight for me. "Before the Soviet Union and WWII" implies US millionaire (Rockefeller, Ford, DuPont) "World Island" plans and activities before World War ONE (which makes sense regarding the founding of the FED in 1913). All this fits together now in my mind much more specifically. I marvel at your energy in studying the FOIAs and documents. I follow my intuition but fall down in scholarly dedication.
Thank you for the kind words. You're welcome. MacKinder published his, The Geopolitical Pivot of History in 1904. The connections between British elites and the US are quite strong. The timing of many events like you alluded, show the real foundations of what we are facing were laid in the early parts of the 20th Century.
The relation between the US and Gehlen is a big deal. He brought all his info and a network that is the basis of the US intelligence community in 1944. And to fund Gladio, Dulles turned to the US and Italian mafia rather than doing it legally or with oversight through Congress. It was a criminal enterprise from day one. Gehlen called his network of remain behind forces Werewolves - normal by day monsters by night. That got changed by Dulles to Gladiators / Gladio. After WWII Gehlen recruited hundreds of Nazis to create an idependent organization. At first he was paid directly as an employee. After about three years he became a contractor employed by the CIA but not officially on their books as an employee.
Thanks again! In my mind this information adds dimension to Charles Higham's 1983 book, "Trading With the Enemy: An Expose of the Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949" And so much more. Fletcher Prouty's "JFK" and "The Secret Team". And Anthony Sutton's "America's Secret establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones". The foundation of British American New England establishment in the Russell family trading opium into China under the protection of the British Navy, the Opium Wars. The endowment of the Order of Skull and Bones (a CIA recruiting pool e.g. George H.W. Bush and I believe Malcolm Wallace in 1948 – and Mac Wallace would be the CIA connection to Zionist Lyndon B. Johnson) by the Russell Trust in 1832. There is the triad: the East Coast establishment+ British Empire + drug criminals = CIA. Flippant but not inaccurate?
Here's a links compilation that provides a lot of history: https://old.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/1feuk62/ukraine_war_links/
Excellent resource!! Thanks.
This is such a complex web. Here is another deep dive into the whole sordid business.
https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/for-victory-day-its-time-to-think-c68
Cool read. Lots of history and connections.
@penelope thank you! That's pure gold - good work.
You keep pushing this 2014 narrative. It started decades earlier.
Proximate cause. Doesn't mean there weren't earlier causes leading up to it.
Way back in1993, the plan was already formulated by some at Rand:
https://www.thepostil.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/US-Ukraine-Security-Cooperation-1993-2001-A-Case-History.pdf
Article with pertinent excerpts:
https://archive.md/o/Fhv8x/https://www.thepostil.com/1993-the-barry-r-posen-plan-for-war-on-russia-via-zombie-state-ukraine/
Marine officer claims with evidence Rand planned it years before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqVPM0KSUpo
Love Mr Berletic, the exceptional analyst who reveals the plans.
marine officer? you mean Brian "1488 tanks" berletic. he was an optics technician.... a refrigerator repair man
At least he doesn't still dwell in his mother's basement, posting childish racist comments.
@Gnuneo
The SEVERAL openly published RAND papers regarding use of ex USSR republics and economic warfare to "over extend" Russian Federation are still out there. Now, some are headed with recently added "fig leaves" claiming the paper was all just something else totally innocuous, even though the described procedures were conducted.
Winston worked hard in the Ministry of Truth, making sure old documents reflected current policy. Who controls the past...
Edit: I've seen the BBC do exactly the the same as well. As an example, they did an excellent series of docvids regarding MbS's massacres of Eastern Arabia Shia - total ethnic cleansing, mass graves, the works. They're gone now. MbS moved some billions into UK offshored banks, and poof!
Also seen them edit old articles too.
Way back in1993, the plan was already formulated by some at Rand:
https://www.thepostil.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/US-Ukraine-Security-Cooperation-1993-2001-A-Case-History.pdf
Article with pertinent excerpts:
https://archive.md/o/Fhv8x/https://www.thepostil.com/1993-the-barry-r-posen-plan-for-war-on-russia-via-zombie-state-ukraine/
I saw a report - on a now banned-in-the-west site - that laid out how how the western powers were planning to use "Ukraine" straight after WW2, and started funding the anti-Russian/Soviet far-right elements even back that far.
Plans within plans within plans.
The site was called 'strategic statecraft', or something similar. Unfortunately I've had a total system meltdown (A bit suspicious, but mustn't get too paranoid about everything) and lost the bookmarks.
CIA's version of origins:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/STUDIES%20IN%20INTELLIGENCE%20NAZI%20-%20RELATED%20ARTICLES_0015.pdf
Index of some first operations:
https://wiki.infrawiki.us/index.php/Project_AERODYNAMIC#cite_note-1
https://strategic-culture.org/ ?
I believe the planning for this war began decades ago in Washington. But the first shots were fired in the US-engineered coup that deposed the elected (and Russia-friendly) president in 2014. Following the coup, the Russian-speaking regions in the south east of Ukraine rebelled and refused to recognize the Kiev authorities. Kiev made war on them for the next eight years, until Russia invaded in 2022.
It's a bit silly to describe taking back territory that was part of your country for hundreds of years as imperialism.
Are you familiar with the fact that Bohdan Khmelnytsky, actually begged Russian Tsar to take Ukraine under his "strong arm" in 1654 to protect from abuses and humiliations by the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, and that the Pereiaslav Agreement treaty was signed, with an oath of allegiance? So much for "hundreds of years of imperialism."
I think you misunderstood Richard Roskell. I think he just wanted to say that taking back your country = NOT imperialism.
Imperialism, at least in western perception, implies that something/land was taken by force. My point is that it was an official request to join Russia, moreover, Crimea was supposedly "transferred" to Ukraine to "honor the 300-year-anniversary of unity between the Russian and Ukrainian people," if you read the documents of this specific Forum of Communist Party of 1954.
So, basically, Ukraine wanted to break the unity with Russia but keep Crimea which was transferred to honor the union of Russia & Ukraine. Cute. LOL
https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/meeting-presidium-supreme-soviet-union-soviet-socialist-republics?_gl=1%2A1esi367%2A_gcl_au%2AMzc2NTQ0MTQ5LjE3NDE0MTU2NjI.%2A_ga%2ANDU1MTIyNjE0LjE3NDE0MTU2NjI.%2A_ga_6MDYB7KP94%2AMTc0MTQxNTY2Mi4xLjAuMTc0MTQxNTY2Mi42MC4wLjA.
Ok, but you are still barking at the wrong tree, if I may say so. :) Richard Roskell didn't write "hundreds of years OF imperialism." He wrote "hundreds of years AS imperialism."
;)
Semantics. There a reason why the libs are shouting "Trump's imperial ambitions," when he's threatening to get Canada/Greenland.
"As" and "of" are small words, but they carry completely different meanings. Herman is correct in how I used it, but perhaps I should've worded it differently.
I do not see Russia as an imperialist state, at least AS I think of the term. Russia didn't create colonies elsewhere or acquire territories overseas at any time in history, AS far AS I know.
I'm perfectly aware of @Richard Roskell stand on Putin, war, etc.. I mind his ambiguous terms.
Before 1945, the traditional folk enemies of the Ukrainian nationalists were Poles and Jews.
You've surely read "Taras Bulba".
I read “Taras Bulba” as a teen, as something normal, and it only hit me many years after, being a parent, wth, a father killing his own son for falling in love, made into a national hero…
That agreement became null and void when the Soviets murdered millions of Ukrainians in the Holodomor.
Please, do tell, and make sure to show me the Ukraine's land registries by which Ukrainians got free land from Lenin's "Decree on Land" in 1917, and then we'd compare which land Stalin asked to return to the state in the 1930s, during poor crops, famine and peasants gouging price of bread, and then we'd debate how many Ukrainians preferred to die for a gift of free land, rather than to return the free land to the state. You know the drill, "; freely you received freely give. " Looks like Ukraine is pathologically unable to give, but only grab, grab, grab...
https://images.dnpartcom.jp/ia/getImage?file=TATEDK0108-L.JPG&size=L
Wow, a filthy bolshevik , commie apologists. I'm sure you weep over the Holocaust though yenta.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-world-history-of-genocide/genocide-in-stalinist-russia-and-ukraine-19301938/7F61D41DB072811077FD2DAF6C6939DB
Oh, wow - "Cambridge Press" bible - must be the TRUTH lol
You cite a western book which is just pure western propaganda how pathetic.
You are espousing western propaganda. and clearly do not know what you are talking about with your anti Soviet propaganda. The reality of what happened is more nuanced than you understand. . Did Stalin and his centrist clique in the Kremlin make some huge mistakes? Yes they did which led to famine across several regions of the USSR. The Left and Right Oppositions within the Bolshevik Party put forward alternative policies in the late 1920s to deal with the growing kulak class which was starving the cities which did not involve the forced requisitioning of grain or use of violence.
Wide regions of the country were gripped by drought yet the harvest of 1932 did not in itself threaten famine. Russian historian Professor Vadim Rogovin explains: "Stalin used the poor harvest of 1932 in Ukraine and several other regions for political ends, in order to crush the recent outbursts of peasant resistance to forced collectivization and to the compulsory organization of labour on the collective farms.''
The forced collectivization of agriculture began in 1929 and continued until 1933 and was the primary cause of the famine across several regions of the USSR.
In mid 1933s Stalin reversed course after realizing the depth of opposition to his agricultural policies in the Bolshevik Party and wider society and the negative impact of the forced collectivization of agriculture on the whole of the soviet economy.
The Russian historian Professor Vadim Rogovin deals very well with this issue in volume 3 of his books about the history of the socialist opposition to Stalin: Bolsheviks Against Stalinism.
How many millions of Russian and other lives were the Soviets responsible for murdering yenta ? Honest answer please .
…in the US we are told the war started because of unprovoked Russian imperialism.
And you believed that unanimously enforced narrative from the wall of fake MSM news in the US? Did you not bother to learn some history about Ukraine, Ru, NATO expansion, Crimea, the Donbass, the Maidan Coup, the Minsk Accords, the civil war in Ukraine, the Nazi character of Ukrainian nationalism? Anything?
Did I say I believed it? No.
Did I say you believed it? No.
Hey Mr. Natural, maybe Nathan is late to the show. Maybe he's come across a different narrative and asking to understand. There's no fault in this. In fact, let's welcome Nathan and others who are coming around. So what if it isn't on the same timeline as you? The propaganda is thick and deep.....do you actually think you are immune to it??? If you do, you're a fool; if you don't, then show some grace.
Zelensky also said he would pursue nukes to counter Russia around 17 Feb 2022
While in Germany, Kamala said on 17 Feb 2022 that Ukraine would join NATO, and Zelensky said on 20 Feb 2022 that Ukraine will get nukes, and Russia invaded on 24 Feb 2022.
Thank you.
It started with the constant infringements by Ukraine of the last treaty to end its aggravations and the encroaching western influence along with armaments that piled in with the 2014 western capture of the governance of Ukraine. It started with the barrage of attacks on Russians in the east, the persecution of them, their religion and even their language- a cultural annihilation. I could go on.
The mystery is why Russia took so long to invade. In holding back it gave the west the impression that it could get away with a huge land grab and in due course topple Russia itself. Now western europe is frightened the boot is on the other foot. But Russia does not crave largely value barren western land in the way the west craves Russia's riches. It just needs these nutters to either choose to or be forced to leave it in peace. That is the generosity of spirit to which Trump referred.
It started way back earlier than 2014. Decades earlier.
2000 years earlier...
You might have a look at the Oliver Stone film, "Ukraine on Fire." It's a good history lesson as to how the war unfolded.
Thank you, I wanted to write a comment to recommend that documentary, but didn't remember the title.
Very good film!!
Hi Richard and Nathan, this film is very good, but it's also a really interesting example of how social media targeting is used. The 'covid' dissenters, a lot of whom came from the Brexit camp and tended to be right-wing, were all linked to this film a couple of days after the initial march into Ukraine by limited Russian forces. We were in on it from the beginning.
MSM was of course fed 'unprovoked, unjustifiable, full-scale invasion'.
The US fostered an illegal coup and regime change in Kiev. That was the provocation that started this war.
All coups d'etat are by their nature illegal. A "legal coup" would be a peaceful transfer of power.
I'd say it was the US backed coup in 2024 removing the democratically elected leader and threats of Ukraine entering NATO.
With an estimated $100T of natural resources in Russia's soil, who *wouldn't* want to steal them!
Ummm, honest people.
if that is not clear to you yet, imagine the average citizen.
Indeed.
At least the OP is asking the right question.
Most people refuse to do even that.
Western Ukraine started bombing Eastern Ukraine after that coup when the Maidan happened, 2014 Eastern Ukraine is all Russian speaking residents they have always felt a part of Russia. Ukraine always has been part of Russia in the past, only during 2ndww it was bordered off from the motherland. Really bad idea because Crimea was made part of Ukraine and its Russia's only seaport except for way up north
of course it was not Ukraine per se, it was people like Nuland and Pyatt and Sullivan and the brain-dead man in the white house. It started when a plan was drawn up in first Washington and then Brussels on how to defeat a Russia not at war with anybody (NATO's preferred wars). They bought up the youths through AID's money -- come to the US for a year's training and leave our choice for your legislature! -- and then stage-managed a coup with such pals as Poland and Lithuania who trained the snipers to trigger the mayhem. Then we chose the government and okayed the war against e. Ukraine. Oh, and I forgot -- Russia send a detailed demarche to DC to tell them that Russia was demanding security negotiations with the US on NATO expansion and threats to Russia. the US totally ignored it until 2 months passed and then pissed on it. Did that help answer your question?
Stop LISTENING to Trump and look at what he does. Schizo is a tactic. He has to worry about internal opposition. Consider the lawfare against his domestic agenda. I'm personally expecting another assassination attempt, to be honest.
Then again, things are a bit slow on the front, and commentators need to comment. ;-)
Certainly possible they will try again to take him out.
Who's going to take who out, Alphabet. It's all staged, man. Think outside the matrix, lol
Doublespeak comes out of doublethink, one toes the party line while simultaneously acknowledging reality. We are on Planet Orwell now and people pretend it is normal.
In a way I suspect we have been in Orwellia for longer than I've been around.
Yessss.
For sure we have, just not in the format that Orwell penned. He imagined it would be two super-states fighting it out, while making mental and physical slaves of their own people. That turned out to be a metaphor for western democracy. The continual political turmoil of our multi-party system is the 'bread and circus' that the elites use to keep the people at odds with one another, and as good as slaves.
Actually, three super-states - Oceana, Eurasia and Eastasia. Today's equivalents - US, Russia and China. Orwell was right.
Quite right, sorry. However taking his triumvirate as a direct stand-in for countries today, while more literal, is less interesting than as a metaphor for politics in general. Just my opinion of course.
Moreover, two of the super-states he created do not resemble today's reality. Russia is just one country in Eurasia out of many, as is China in Eastasia. Neither of those countries appear to be making super-states out themselves by subsuming others. Although I'll certainly grant you that US/NATO countries increasingly resemble Oceana.
It's probably more a matter of economic influence than political or military influence. Having said that, however, that these three countries maintain spheres of economic interest suggests marked political/military forces in the background protecting those interests. But I take your point.
Most fail to acknowledge that Orwell was a socialist who became very pessimistic about the future after WW2. By 1945 Orwell had became deeply disillusioned by Stalin's triumph in the USSR over his democratic socialist opponents on the left and right of the Bolshevik Party: led by Trotsky and Bukharin
In both 1984 and Animal Farm Orwell is using metaphor to describe the degeneration of the Russian Revolution which was exemplified by Stalin's defeat of Trotsky and the Left Opposition and all the horrors which flowed from that. Sadly, Orwell lost all faith in the future of socialism and any progress for humanity. Too many interpret his books incorrectly as some kind of prophesy for the future which I don't belevee was his intention.
Since 1945, in fact.
since the Jew used its ZOGs to defeat the only true European freedom movement.
We are on Planet Orwell, right? But this situation is not new. When I was young, doing my military service, it was clear that our enemy was the Soviets. These evil bastards were just waiting for their moment, and then they would roll with all these endless columns of tanks right through Western Europe, and no one could stop them until they reached Sevilla. This was the story, and to prevent this bad Soviet assault, we had to bring in the newest missiles, fighters, and tanks, the so-called "NATO Double-Track Decision". And now go to a public library near you. Check the headlines of the leading publications of this time (let's say 1985), and you will find again and again, the Soviets are the stronger; we must gear up. And then take out the IISS yearbook. A summary of all military forces of the time, obviously a very good one, because there were no complaints about the findings in their reports. Now count. You will find a completely different picture. It was all a lie. There was not a Soviet plan to roll over Europe. There was no modern Soviet army waiting to destroy the Western counterparts. The Soviet troops were more of the kind to suppress local opposition, like in Poland, CSSR, East Germany, or Hungary. But anyone who opposed the narrative was quickly silenced. To come back to my military service, I believed this shit about the Soviets because I was young. And here in Austria we were only training an assault from the East, meaning by the Soviets, but wait, Austria should have been a neutral country. But the lie was stronger, much stronger, and everyone bended their knees in front of this Gessler's hat.
It wasn't like the Soviets weren't powerful. They just had no intention of using it.
Yes... Simplicius has totally missed the boat , as Trump has been using the same playbook on the domestic scene to throw off his opponents, seemingly flip flopping while always advancing towards his ultimate goal which we can suss out. In this case, Trump is trying to do a managed pullback of the US empire, as everything is stretched too thin. But there are still embedded elements who will take extreme measures if they think their grift from empire is fully threatened. The substance matters - he did initiate direct talkes with the Russians. He has said certain previous unutterable truths.. and he defenestrated Z the clown in the white house in front of the whole world.
Trump is not pulling back the US empire. It’s the same neocon warmonger hegemon playbook with different slogans. More illegal sanctions, regime changes and an increase in spending for the military industrial complex. His neocon agenda is all spelled out in the deep state think tanks that shape his term. He doesn’t seek peace, he’s simply moving onto the next proxy war because the US lost this one. Next up, sacrifice Taiwan and using the ZioFREAKS to attack Iran. Research “Project 2025” & “America First Policy Institute” and it becomes clear what his deep state funded agenda really is. https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-04.pdf https://agenda.americafirstpolicy.com/strengthen-leadership
And he is a Jew owned Zionist cuck.
He is not. Stop assuming the Jews own everything. You don't even understand these power systems
So why does these power systems originate with the Jews?
And Trump is a Jew owned Zionist Cuck.
Which group is over represented, relative to their numbers, in most Western countries as far as entertainment, business, and politics are concerned ? Why ?
Simp wrong is a jew cucked simp.
Then they'd have no reason to try to kill him, would they?
Factions within factions.
They seem pretty uniform on most issues and the push for them.
Well....yes and no. Although Trump is a dedicated Zionist, the Jews had too much at stake to allow him to win. Why? Simply because he was untested with regards to the genocide going on. They knew well where Camela stood, so it was known against unknown. They knew he might well win, so they took the only option available to get him out of the race.
No, the neocons may want the hegemony to continue, but empires always cost quite a bit to maintain. At some point, when the vassal states have been sucked dry (see Europe, Aust etc), empires always pull back. If they don't, then they implode. Such movements in history are unavoidable, it's just how the interactions of human nature (greed and all) play out. Trump knows thta without a serious pullback, US will end up taking a bigger beating.
You are wrong. Stop assuming everyone is a warmonger. Trump is not. However, he under that we should protect ourselves as a country
Protect from whom ? Who's ready to attack the US ?Who is this mythical enemy Trump fears ?
Maybe, but the neocons seem to hate him, that's for sure.
The neocons are just one faction of The Deep State.
Not really, its just that it's time to rule the world by weaponising tech, AI, space, communication and start implementing whatever dystopian plans they have. Look at the whole range of tech bros he had in his inauguration and everything they're involved in.
Not really? They tried to kill him twice. The whole deep state media (all mainstream media) hates him. Well nevermind, maybe it's all some double-fake.
You don't understand US politics and finding some website that some person shat some garbage on proves nothing.
I am as American as one can be. My ancestors came here in the 1700s. Those “websites” I posted are Trump’s think tank policy papers, the same ones that actually shape his term. Research them & you will notice that everything Trump is saying & doing is almost verbatim in these deep state neocon think tanks. From “division of labor”, “pivot to Asia” and everything in between, it’s more of the same neocon bullshit with different slogans.
I repeat 'shat some garbage'. This has no resemblance to what Trump is doing, and if this was what he wanted, everything he is doing to date is counterproductive to that goal. The DoD is in disarray and so is the MIC.
I repeat, Trump is doing everything that are in these think tank policy papers. Is Trump destroying the MIC? No. He ordered NATO nations to increase spending to 5%. Look at MIC stocks. He just approved $870 million “security assistance” to Taiwan. More money for the MIC. Research them. It’s all written in these papers
Looking at this paper it looks like they are doubling down on their WW2 military structure. No serious mention of drone warfare, hypersonic missile development or the need for general surge capacity in case of a major conflict.
It’s the same full spectrum dominance nonsense copy pasted from previous years. These people have learned nothing years whether in the Middle East or in Ukraine.
trumptard. Zion don only cares about the jew and that illegal jew HQ. he sure did not run on genocide and expelling palestinians....
Great comment, always start off by calling names /s.
Just fyi, I told everyone that Trump was going to win in early 2016, everyone thought I was crazy. But I had been travelling all over the country and the level of anger against the rigged system was very palpable. Him winning upset all the globalist plans ... think about it, otherwise the Ukraine war would have been precipitated earlier by Cackle Lady, when Russia would have been less ready to be autarkic. The covid scam would have even less pushback if done before 2020 as we wouldn't have set up our own alt-forums and exchanged vital medical information. The list can go on and on. Why do you think the establishment hated Trump with such a vengeance... sure, he ain't no saint.. and I don't see him as a savior. But he is playing a major part, and now he has a serious beef after 4 years of crazy persecution and prosecution against him.
" The covid scam would have even less pushback if done before 2020 as we wouldn't have set up our own alt-forums and exchanged vital medical information. "
Trump is the self professed father of the "vaccines" or did you conveniently forget ?
Trumptards can't think critically and have no memory.
Unfortunately for the Globalists and the Deep State, JD Vance seems to be the real thing too.
LOL LOL LOL vance?? who is married to a street shitter and is owned by the homosexual peter thiel??? that vance....
Cancerous human you are.
Cancerous but totally correct.
Calling his wife a "street shitter" is not correct in any sense of the word. Grow up.
Correct. She may not shit in the street, but they are also known to shit in a bucket and then throw the contents out of the window in to the street.
Same result. Someone steps in it.
who made you the language police? go cry elsewhere...
why?
Thiel is a faggot? That tribe certainly are over represented in perversions.
No wonder homo propaganda is all over fuckfacebook.
https://www.npr.org/2016/07/21/486966882/i-am-proud-to-be-gay-tech-investor-peter-thiel-tells-gop-convention
oh and vance's chief of staff is some creepy little jew....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-jd-vances-jewish-chief-of-staff-jacob-reses/
the pic of that little rat is priceless. uncle A proven right again....
LOL little inbred faggot. The criminally insane ashkeNAZI produce so many truly hideous specimens (Kissinger, Kagan, Nuttyyahoo) due to centuries if inbreeding.
Do you mean like the Trump faked assassination attempts? lol
What makes you think it was faked? A couple of cms across and the bullet would have killed him?
Lol, Trump pulled the same crap on WWE Wresting televised. There is more fake in your world than you know.
Conspiracy theories are boring. Proof.
Don't be lazy and do your own research, HBI. You are too deep in the matrix to be saved.
Yawn.
911 was a real event, correct ?
...ffs dude. I was standing on the Exit 140 Garden State Parkway clover leaf off 78, on the high SE side of the interchange, and I stopped my car to watch one tower drop. The smoke was streaming in what appeared to be a southerly direction - I was 10 miles away at least.
Lost about 60% of the SAs at the data center I ran for IBM that day. They were mostly wall street types that worked in the WTC complex.
I was born in Jersey City and I saw the towers going up as a young child. So yes, it happened. I also happened to be at the Pentagon a year plus later and saw the renovation work. That wasn't done for fun.
The photos of blood on his hand contradict his statement. And that is only one anomaly out of many. But do carry on believing everything the lying media and govt. says.
Oswald was a lone assassin, jet fuel brought down three towers even though one wasn't hit, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbour, etc. Are you getting the picture or still ignorant?
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/seven-signs-trumps-assassination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Interesting, I always wondered. Still, this does not mean Trump is on the evil side.
He's no angel is he? All on board with genocicde and take over of West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria.
The Adelson Ziowhore has him by his shrivelled balls.
I read the articles you posted proving that the assassination attempt on Trump was faked, but didn’t find it convincing.
You’re told Trump’s supposed ear graze is a “miracle” - I’m atheist so agree miracles don’t exist. Calling it a miracle is just hyperbole, and is not evidence that the assassination attempt wasn’t real
Likelihood = zilch. No - just very low.
If the establishment wanted him dead, they wouldn’t have failed. This was an attack by a single person
Your ignorance is hanging out, best hide it dear.
he was attacked all along his first mandate. Was that fake too? You are a joke
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/seven-signs-trumps-assassination
We are not talking about attacked. The topic is an assassination attempt. So you obfuscated the discussion with irrelevance. Humans are easily deceived into believing what they want you to. lol, Best wishes, Yoni.
Have you considered the possibility he was really murdered? It makes a lot of sense, there are multiple evidences, and you cant back up your claims whatsoever. No, I think he was set to have his skull blown live on TV, as a kind of mass terror intimidation to the American population and the world just like 9-11. Other American enemies of the British empire were also executed. they tried to trigger civil unrest or even a civil war to make their agenda through. This could be the strange reason they chose Kamala as a candidate, which was extremely odd and unwinnable. They wanted somebody to be hated by the MAGA crowd, and she was playing her dumb role very well. These vampyres live out of blood, pain and death. I think he is aware he was touched by God. Sadly, he has very few cards but God willing he will make his way through.
Do you know 9/11 was an inside job? Kamala played her dumb role and so did Trump. They all do as they're told.
Anyone wondering whether the attempted murder (and coup d´état) was theater, can ask themself:
Would *you* be willing to stand at the podium, and, right on cue, turn your head away to take the bullet in your ear rather than your skull?
What sum of money (or other consideration) would you require for taking such a risk?
Weak. Can't you thin k of something more plausible?
The only Trump rally in THREE Presidential campaigns to be broadcast live by CNN.
Facts have shown people like you for the idiots they are.
Next you'll say the moon landings were fake and JFK is alive and living in Cuba...
That's right. He shares a flat with Elvis and Lord Lucan.
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/seven-signs-trumps-assassination
Do you also have theories about how Bigfoot is real that you want to tell us about? 🤣
You are easily deceived like most people drinking the many false narrative Kool-Aid. lol The bigger joke is how easy it is to control a population that thinks they know what's really going on.
911 was a real event , correct ?
Have you considered the possibility he was really murdered? It makes a lot of sense, there are multiple evidences, and you cant back up your claims whatsoever. No, I think he was set to have his skull blown live on TV, as a kind of mass terror intimidation to the American population and the world just like 9-11. Other American enemies of the British empire were also executed. they tried to trigger civil unrest or even a civil war to make their agenda through. This could be the strange reason they chose Kamala as a candidate, which was extremely odd and unwinnable. They wanted somebody to be hated by the MAGA crowd, and she was playing her dumb role very well. These vampyres live out of blood, pain and death. I think he is aware he was touched by God. Sadly, he has very few cards but God willing he will make his way through.
THIS! I have said as much here myself, but Ed put it so well I won't bother doing it again.
Expecting to get anything out of what Trump SAYS (other than confusion) is a category error, as rhetoric has no information content.
Plus he pretty much has to at least appear to do everything the Israel lobby / Zionists want, the Israel lobby is that powerful in the US : disagree with them and you get nothing done. Yes I'm sad and angry about that but at the moment it's a fact of life.
I think he has made a deal with them, he wont oppose them, and they let him fix US domestic situation. And because the domestic issues pretty much have to be fixed now , or democrats will win every election in perpetuity by importing tens of millions new voters etc.
Maybe Israel will meanwhile destroy themselves with their madness and do the world peace a favor.
Good points. Thanks.
Sorry, I have tried to hope for the best with Trump. I can understand the internal opposition. It is very real, but the idea of chasing Elensky around to sign a worthless "deal" seems too far, the truth is Trump is following the Clown Kellogg plan "leaked" 2 months ago. Now he has Ukraine agreeing but not really agreeing he is going to begin threatening Russia with giving more aid to Ukraine and sanctions to Russia. There will be no ceasefire from Russia so how does Trump "hide" that from his pro Ukraine DC swamp??
trumptard. zion don is just playing his part for the jew. Zelnsky is a disgusting jew but he actually held his own against zion Don and weirdo vance who had it planned. When will wiedo vance and zion don ever talk to Nentanyahu about not having any card with the US supporting his illegal genocidal state?
When’s your next Klan meeting?
Shalom my brother.
You obviously are ignorant as to what tribe founded the KKK.
I doubt there ever was any assassination attempt...seemed like a gimmick to give him clear victory. He wouldn't be the President seemingly doing whatever he wants with no real opposition, if the powers to be didn't permit. How come there has been no discussion or details given by Trump team about the perpetrators of previous supposed assassination attempts? There's total silence about that.
The story is simple. The system had lost conttol over public on both sides, and a new narrative/method was needed to calm the sheep down. Look at how analysts are twisting into pretzels to present Trump's random rhetoric as some 5d chess! He is incoherent, there are things he knows and believes and there are things he's required to say or do and he just keeps mixing them up because he can't keep quiet. I don't think he's creating confidence anywhere..domestically and outside. The madman strategy can backfire seriously if it's without any substance.
I'm sick of hearing people defend Trump whose sole aim is to revive the fortunes of the American empire and continue the massive wealth transfer which has been going on in the US with abandon since 2008 GFC.
Watch and listen. Trump is dumb as bag of hammers. I don't think he will get any bump form another staged assassination attempt either.
Zaluzhny looks like he's gained 50 pounds since he left Ukraine. He must really be enjoying the fish and chips there in England
I never liked his fat face.
Wouldn't surprise me, although a chicken curry has been the UK national dish for the past 30 years plus. But a White Nationalist like him wouldn't eat an Indian CURRY!!
Would be hilarious if Voldemort's last act was to leave assassins behind for Zaluzhny's return.
Course, Russia would get the blame, but I think they're beyond caring now.
He looks like a murderous, knuckle dragging thug.
He is that exactly.
Also looks like that sicko from the human centipede..
He does! I wonder if he has wire rim glasses and injectable laxatives?
Or any Ukrainian porker big honcho, untidy or unshaven mafia style thugs. Umerov or penis pismo player masqerading as an Ukrainian ..to name a few. Or Yermak...
He's right in time to witness and enjoy the UK's collapse.
Followed by a vindaloo and a large doner kebab by the looks of it.
I still have a hard time buying that this is not a doppelganger Zaluzhny, and that the real one was killed. He looks totally different than Zaluzhny Mark 1, and trying to find any video of Zaluzhny giving a speech before April 2023 yields nothing. This guy and Budanov were always giving updates until going on hiatus after the missile strike in April 2023. Then Zaluzhny vanishes, goes to his daughter’s wedding in Cyprus, hands out some prize at an Odessa science fair, gets blamed for Nordstream, etc. Finally we get the camera shy, chubby, younger Zaluzhny Mark 2 marinating in London. Color me skeptical…
My Dear dear friends remember remember these few words (All this Shit will never ever stop till Russia grows a man's pair of balls and kills the U-SA) Remember these few words to the best for all of you
They're all in the same club with shared plans for the bigger picture.
The fear enveloping the Europeans is pleasant to behold. They need to stop talking out of their asses and accept reality. No one is attacking Russia. Russia won't believe it.
If they are foolish enough to do so, I hope God has mercy on them, because Russia won't.
As Putin told in an speech. When Napoleon tryed to attack Russia, the story ended with the Russian army entering Paris.
He counted on being able to get peace in the past. He never could again.
The Russian army entered Paris, then the tsar was cheated out of any lasting advantage by the colluding Cabal schemers at the Vienna Congress. He was just as naive as Putin used to be, trusting the West.
I think Trump does know what Russia is saying, but he's trying to appear that he's giving Ukraine a chance to come to their senses and negotiate realistically.
He does this "art of the deal" act all the time, excoriating someone and then praising them. I'm sure that Putin also realizes this.
Trump and Putin both know that the problem here is the Euros. Russia is being patient but firm with their hysterical nonsense, while Trump is trying to get Ukraine to surrender before the Euros do something even stupider that what they are doing now, which would force Russia's hand.
Peace is the goal. The two superpowers are trying to get the unruly kids to be disciplined and rational. If project Ukraine is ended, it will help settle down the brats who want to fight over it.
Finally closing the Kursk fire sack is logical under the circumstances.
That fire sack has been the Russian version of a shooting gallery for foreign mercs that has gotten rid of close to 100k of neonazi's to date. Being dead is the only cure for stupid it seems. Cheers.
I think this is all kabuki theatre setting the scene for the US to ditch Ukraine. They have to make it look like they tried, but the meter is running on being blamed for the collapse if they take too long. Already we are seeing the narrative about Kursk shift to blaming the cutting off of intelligence and weapons for the collapse
Exactly.
I changed my mind. This is a Vietnam scenario. The point of the 1973 peace "Peace with honor" was to separate the US from the inevitable fall of the South. They are trying this again.
The Americans see to think the Russians are like them and just say stuff that will mean nothing next week or even be reversed. The Russians mean what they say and say what they want but the US seems to not listen
They also have brains.
Well the political class at least. There are many sane, rational and intelligent Americans but that is not what mostly rises to the top in western politics. A quick lap of western countries revels a leadership list of clueless idealogues. The exceptions stand out like beacons , for me Orban would be one.
Hire someone like Trump if you ever have to negotiate in New York, ok?
800 billion budget to go to war against Russia, say 2030-35. It will take 10 years to get EU on 1 line to get fully operational, meanwhile EU citizens are being handcuffed or is it an extortion by the exit NATO and EU cabal and would be Tsars: Macron 2 in 3 want him out, Trudeau 2 months and back to school, Scholz auf wiedersehn, and within 10 years Trump, Zelensky, Ursula, Putin will be dead or taken out, and Ukraine looted and deserted like the Sahara.
Alex Krainer: Economic Collapse & the End of Europe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPYoT24B2uc
You're forgetting Starver, 3 out of 2 want him gone :-)
8 out of 10 didn't want him the first place. Incl 100% of the real UK left.
And Merz. He might just end up having less than 5% public support BEFORE he even starts his term. That's got to be some kind of record.
Serves right the millions of morons who voted for him, mostly middle-aged and older, who will live to see their life's savings wiped out during his term.
Trump wants to eat his cake, and have it, too.
The corporate media liars - incl Faux News - will and are trying to paint it as HIS loss, and he is susceptible to such media tactics.
Making America Great Again by starting off with an admission American can't defeat Russia is a hard sell.
He'd prefer it if the idiots would just surrender.
True. But he should just cut it now and blame Biden. The longer it takes , the more likely that he will be blamed for this war
See above, this is a Vietnam scenario. He wants a fig leaf to separate himself from the failure.
Well, I believe that US and Russia will come to some accommodation, but that Europe and Zelensky will not. Where does that leave us? USA walks away, demands elections, Russia demands elections, and they wait until Ukraine is so devastated that it holds elections? At the end of the day, Zelensky doesn't have to resign, he's allowed to keep fighting, and the EU is allowed to keep funding him. What are Russia and the USA going to do then?
Ukraine is running out of infantry, and the Euros will not fight without US backup.
Russia will destroy Ukraine if that happens.
Europe is broke as hell. Without USAID to fund the money from the US printing press, they don't have anything - seriously. Having the 'reserve currency' does convey a whole host of advantages.
The EU will discover they aren't rich enough to be hostile to Russia.
Duh, regime change ofcourse! The USA has a huge track record and they mastered the technique. A couple of sanctions will do. It so happens we don’t have many resources. Just prevent oil, steal and other critical resources from coming in to Europe, block access to SWIFT and before you know the population will stand up and topple the elites. Something similar as in France in 1789. Nuland will of course bring the cookies to the party 🥳
What are you talking about? Ukraine and Europe are hopeless without the USA. Look what happened in a few days after the USA cutting weapons and intel
And how do you think all the "Ukrainians abroad," most living in the EU would vote, or rather for whom?
The E.U. is the wildcard. The first European empire since Charlemagne, with Germany re-arming for the first time since WWll, this time with French Nukes backing them. Cancelling the Romanian election, arresting the most popular politician in the country, then threatening to deprive Hungary of voting rights. 800 million people and 23 nations under the E.U. Empire, which will now issue debt that every citizen in 23 countries is obligated to repay. So a Spanish car mechanic has to pay taxes to a German factory to send artillery to Ukrainians conscript to kill Russian soldiers. Crazy. And lets not forget that German tanks, French missiles, and British artillery are on Russian soil killing Russian citizens and civilians.
The truth is that the European politicians want power- military power, financial power, debt power- over all of Europe. This is their goal, they are wedded to it, and the Ukraine war is a pivot to achieve all these goals. Only then can they sit at the table with China and Russia and the USA as a 'Civilization- State' and request their piece of the global pie. And they are happy to destroy their own nations, nationalities, languages, religions, race, etc to achieve this goal. So they are certainly not worried about destroying Ukraine or angering Russia to achieve it either. In fact, it is necessary, because only the 'betrayal' by USA and the 'existential threat' of 'evil Russia' can justify their power grab, wasteful spending, oppressive bureaucracy, and destruction of national identity. Without the Ukraine war, the E.U. project falls apart. The EU must continue the Ukraine war to achieve their domestic objectives. As the woman said 'peace is more dangerous than war', because for the EU politicians, it is.
However, this is very risky. Both Russia and the USA are unlikely to want a centralized, debt-financed military empire controlling a unified Europe. And they may be willing to do something about it. And China is unlikely to do do much about it. So Europe is, in my opinion, playing a very dangerous hand.
Europe is in an extremely difficult situation. They have been squeezed economically by the US for decades. Now they are being squeezed by Russia geopolitically. They are the big losers in the Russia US reproachment. Without their neocolonial projects (Ukraine being a major one) they face a debt spiral of death. Monetary expansion without some decent collateral will lead to increased stagflation and eventually hyperinflation and currency collapse. Interestingly they seem intent on expediting said collapse. Desperate times.
Liked, because overall you're right, but respectfully disagree in a key detail: "The first European empire since Charlemagne"
Beating up on their own unarmed civilians does not make them an empire, it only makes them an alliance of police states. You can't be an empire without military force that can defeat rival empires, and the EU does not have that, not even close. Elon Musk, an individual, is wealthy enough to muster sufficient mercenary force to tear the guts out of Brussels. The "EU" has no chance against Russia.
Even if you use the term "empire" very loosely to mean influence and not real power, even there they are not the first since Charlemagne. Two real empires come to mind, albeit both short lived: Napoleon's empire, and the Third Reich. Those combined absolute dominance of Europe with genuine military power.
Both of those empires, not that the EU will understand the lesson, also erased any chance of being enduring empires when they attacked Russia.
"Beating up on their own unarmed civilians does not make them an empire, it only makes them an alliance of police states." Spot on.
"Elon Musk, an individual, is wealthy enough to muster sufficient mercenary force to tear the guts out of Brussels." 🙏🙏🙏
Nice reply, but I just have to say that logistically, attacking Russia is more possible today than it was in 1812 or 1941, but none of the current players has a snowball's chance in hell of being able to do it. I'm not even going to venture to say whether I think it could be done. I am thinking of a China threat, also.
And let's be clear, logistics is what destroyed every invasion attempt of Russia. Not devaluing the efforts of the Russian soldier, just stating bald facts as at least one Tsar agreed.
When the country is 1/6 of global land mass, yah, logistics is a bitch:-)
HBI. To be fair isn't logistics what decides every war?
That's probably fair enough. Everything bigger than a raid, at least.
Lazy europeans should not have let Eurocrats create this monstrosity. For the record, EU is 450 million people but it is enough ”meat” to squeeze out debt and blood from, as you wrote.
I am amazed how they have un-Brexited UK and letting the little Brits run a European show. First derailing peace-attempts and then putting gasoline on the Ukrainian fire. UK has overtaken the old US maxim: do whatever it takes to hold the Germans of Russia.
And the stupid krauts are voting for the even more stupid Merz…
Boy, what we need mushroom-clouds over Europe…
Apparently a lot of the functionaries from the WW2. German Empire went on to work in creating the EU, as they had the track record in managing European integration….
I agree with most of what you say. However, we part ways on the issue of "empire". I believe that the EU was formed with that in mind eventually. However, events of the last decade or so indicates that the EU reached its peak around the time of Brexit. The departure of the UK from the union caused an earthquake that is still producing aftershocks to this day, putting the idea into the heads of a rapidly growing number in Europe that perhaps the UK was right and that the monstrous EU leadership is indeed looking to destroy their sovereignty and establish an authoritarian, unelected bureaucratic autocracy that will smother their freedoms, destroy their individual and unique cultures through unlimited immigration and growing pressure for central control over virtually every aspect of European life. You see this growing revolution popping up all over Europe as people begin to wake up.
So in summary, I would propose that what we are actually witnessing is the final death throes of the EU, grasping at anything that will put off the inevitable, even to the extent of destroying their own economies and promoting endless war.
But instead of defy & prosper after Brexit, the UK stagnated and went bonkers, so it's hardly an inspiring example for the rest of the EU.
It's complex - the economy issue, that is. However, the spirit of Brexit - independence, sovereignty, control of borders, etc - have sparked an awakening across the EU in many countries. At least the freedom to choose their own path is now a reality for the UK - though how successfully they made use that choice is a matter for discussion. As a British citizen, I am not at all happy with many of the choices our governments since Brexit have handles their new found freedoms - indeed, many of those decisions have significantly limited our individual freedoms.
Why would it be hard to "control of borders" being an island?
Still being subject to various EU laws. Living next door to France. Failure to enforce the borders. Etc.
The UK is also unable to keep drugs out of prisons. A useful signifier of how poorly the country is run.
Victor,
Your point is valid regarding unelected bureaucratic autocracy. They have embraced the "woke" ideology and energy policies which are crippling their economies .
The EU countries have the same problems that all the western countries have : they keep promising more and more to hold onto power . Politics is a popularity contest and people vote with their wallets .The debt/deficits grow and grow and no one is game to stop it as its electoral poison . The defence budgets have been cut over time until they are unable to maintain anything but a token military . Brexit was supposed to break the UK away from the EU but was scuppered by Boris and the politicians who were manipulated by the media into doing what they were told. At the moment when voting you get to pick between bad and worse and you know none of their promises are worth the paper their written on . The trouble with revolutions is that the people who run revolutions are often worse that the people being thrown out .
Just because it's been a while since Europeans hung their "elites" doesn't mean it can't happen again.
And soon.
That's why they are becoming more totalitarian by the day.
🙏🙏🙏
The EU is not the wild card, they are the dumbfucks elephants in the china shop.
Yes, Ukraine has helped the cause of EU Council expansion/imperialism.
But Ukraine has also tremendously damaged the economies of the Western European nations such that neither the supportive "center" national governments nor the Western European population views on the EU are either growing or positive. In fact, the latter.
But reality has never been a barrier to bureaucrats/apparatchiks - which both EU ministers and Western European political leaders are these days. Not leaders but bean counters - and not even good bean counters because they are counting magic beans.
EU is done. More factions of power want it destroyed. Even , if they go to war against Russia, they are done. Because everyone will understand that they can carve up EU after any war .
Who will fight this EU war? JD was right in his speech in Munich. Do the people of these EU states still believe in Patriotism
It's been a long time since fighting a war for your rulers is patriotism.
The problem is the eurocrats rule over europeans. Sure, they are meek rule-followers, trusting in authority, easily herded, easily cowed,.
This also makes europeans the biggest wimps on the planet.
The bit about Russia being weaker than it might appear, is just a nod to the constant Ukrainian propaganda that still insists that Russia is on the brink of collapse. The west must not let up now... blah blah blah.
This Ukraine garbage kicked off this war as Biden believed it- Russia could be toppled easy peasy, and then just think of all those resources!!!!
And it is still firing its automatic rounds.
Ye Gods, this is not the west's war. Get the hell out of it and leave it to end as it should have ended years ago with the destruction of a rogue gansgster regime in a region of vital security importance to Russia.
It is the wests war. The west started it, supplied the proxy miitary with everything it needed from training to weapon systems to propaganda in Ukraine and all over the world (USAID hello). Billion upon billions of dollars of it.
You seem to believe the lie that the USA is a neutral party. Wake up.
I am not sure who you are debating with, but it is clearly not me. Where did I say that the USA has behaved as neutral party. Biden was in it from the start! That does not mean the west in general or the US in particular has any LEGITIMATE interest here. They do not. Plenty of illegitimate ones though!
Trump was in it before bidet. You are trumptard me thinks. And you falsely state it’s not the west’s war when it fucking well is.
she just means its not in the west - get out of eastern europe and get out of the middle east and stay home...and fix stuff - like bridges, not protests. We're in for some bad times.
And well deserved bad times.
why ? I'm talking about the population. Trump ain't gonna suffer nor the bidens nor the clintons - except they're all getting old and must be getting scared to meet their Maker. Unless they've got some bargain with the devil about their lives after death. Maybe you don't believe in that ?
“This is not the west’s war” doesn’t mean literally that the west has nothing to do with it, but that the west SHOULD have nothing to do with it. As in: it is not in their interest.
I think Julianne is very well aware who is mostly to blame for this war, but maybe Julianne can proof me wrong😀
Well, "literally" it does mean just that which is why it got a response. It's how I read it too. It's a badly formed sentence then as it has to mean it's someone else's but it isn't; it's the West's in conception and execution, whatever the poster wanted it to say.
agreed and get out of the middle east too. stay at home and fix your stuff there.
Unfortunately poor old Biden was already in the midst of dementia.
"Poor old" Biden was a ruthless, unprincipled, self-interested corrupt asshole, and he was stupid even before his brain wilted. While still undemented, he deliberately involved himself deeply in the most inhuman aspects of Ukrainian corruption, which is why he so stubbornly sank so much military aid in the failed state. He was defending his personal investments with his country's assets.
The U.S. hears and understands what the Rusdians are saying but they can't concede to the demands because that would mean having to admit their guilt.
The U.S. can't lose to Russia. Losing to Russia would mean it isn't the most powerful country. And that means loss of preemince.which it has come to accept as its rightful place
That train left the station long ago. They lost and Trump is trying to clean up the mess.
They lost de facto but not in perception.
True, I keep forgetting about the media war. They are definitely winning here, for now anyway.
Yes, that is their strongest suit. Bullshit is what they excel at. As Orwell wrote in Politics and the English Language: “political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” Western media and it's armchair generals need dealing with.
That's false
Trump can't clean up the mess if he's trying to save face. Trump is only trying to conceal U.S culpability. That is what saving face is all about.
He constantly is repeating his new marketing slogans of, this war would never have happened if he had been president and that he's a president of peace.
Neither of these is true. You can't be an imperialist and a violator of the U.S. own one China policy while claiming to be a president of peace.
Even his approach to ending the Ukrainian war against Russia is insincere. He isn't for making a clean end to the war by just walking away. He wants to somehow redemption U.S. involvement in starting the war by settling it in the form of a deal where the U.S. comes away with something.
Such an end to the war will leave the U.S. with a continued presence in Ukraine and that presence will only serve as a trip wire of intimidation against Russia. Remember he says that he doesn't have to formally offer Ukraine security guarantees. That a U.S presence in Ukraine as a miner of its minerals and operator of its ports, that the U.S. will part owner of, will be enough of a security guarantee for Ukraine.
The U.S. wants to be in whatever portion of Ukraine that the Russians aren't in. This means that the U.S. occupied portion of Ukraine could one day once again become a breeding ground for Russophibia under a future administration.
The only way to peacefully end this war is with a clear Ukrainian surrender and no U.S. involvement in constructing the post war arrangement. That should be left for Russia to preside over, as the regional hegemon, with the countries of Poland, Hungary, Romania.
The U.S. has zero interest in Ukraine. Then the U.S. should in the same way exit Taiwan before it becomes the next Ukraine.
That's false. It is better that USA is present instead of the Europeans.
LOL.
Taiwan has economic importance that Ukraine doesn't.
Envision the Kissinger/Nixon strategy of getting out of Vietnam. Apply it to this Ukraine situation. The important part is separating the US from blame for Ukraine's failure and Russia's triumph.
Taiwan is China and that's the only thing that matters. The U.S. is poking its nose in Taiwan where it doesn't belong. Just like it's nose never belonged in Ukraine.
Avoiding blame means having to lie. No one should die to protect a lie. If you try to cover up the truth you only make things worse.
Are Americans willing to accept a draft and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of its young people over Taiwan? Don't forget that the soldiers needed to fight this war will come from the huge segment of the U.S. population that has no share in the wealth of America.
Let the rich send their children to die. I'd like to see the children of the billionaires who attended Trump's inauguration and are members of his administration be forced to send their draft age children to the front lines.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/first-battle-next-war-wargaming-chinese-invasion-taiwan
The U.S. has already “lost to Russia”. It’s Trumps problem to make it look, at home, if not like victory at least like “Bidens” loss. Give him a little slack. I feel like both Trump and Putin understand each others positions. They both have ever screeching military genius mouths to feed at home.
Trump keeps talking ceasefire and that Putin shouldn't expect to get everything he wants.
Trump is wrong on both counts. Putin has won this war by defeating America's puppet government of Ukraine. And as the victor in any war, he doesn't have to compromise but gets to dictate terms.
Putin's terms are eminent reasonable and make more sense than Trump's reclaiming of the Panama Canal which was built on territory that previously belonged to the nation of Columbia but was stolen from it in a U.S. sponsored proxy war using Columbian rebels.
Putin's goals of denazification, demilitarization, removal of the post coup constitution and government leadership of Ukraine, the reclaiming of the annexed regions to the full extent of their boundaries as given by Russia when Russia transferred them to Ukraine, protection of the Russian speaking population in what remains of a postwar Ukraine, a Ukraine that is perpetual neutral, never a member of NATO or the E.U. (that last one is my thoughts) is based in reality and historical ties.
The U.S. case for reclaiming the Panama Canal has none of those elements.
The best solution to the problems in this war will have a better chance of being found by the people who live there. And without the interference of outside parties.
The U.S. made the mess so it isn't a neutral intervenor.
Trump is selling a narrative. Actions matters the most. He stopped the weapons, intel and even starlinks.
Trump is speaking to the American public, not Putin.
They were propagandized heavily for years and need to be let down carefully.
This.
And this is the problem - coddling too much the American public. I wish the USSR told the truth last time around, in the 1960s, that the US put nukes in Turkey, and in response, the USSR put nukes in Cuba, vs. letting JFK "save face." It got to the point that Americans can't stomach the truth, since it contradicts exceptionalism & "white hat of the world" myth.
Do you think the US ever had comfort with the truth? I don't think so. In the War of 1812, the US was essentially the aggressor, as it has been in literally every foreign war. The population can't be told the truth lest they not follow along.
Agreed, but the abysmal ignorance of Americans to what's going on is horrifying. Other countries propagandize own population, but here it's simultaneous non-stop propagandizing, stupefying and enforcing the delusion of exceptionalism, all at the same time, and all the time - Americans can't stand a chance in such bombardment.
True
Indeed. But Trump has been extremely candid about the origin of the War. The ever expanding NATO to the borders of Russia for example. He has said that Ukraine provoked the War on themselves. If Rubio now concede that it is a proxy War, then it isnt so much left to say. Normal people, the 20% in each country, understands the Truth. Sadly the other 80% always carries their countries astray.
And in the process complicating/deteriorating their own future… but can you blame them or is it ‘just’ human nature?
Both. Humans just dont want to bother their lifes with the Powerelites geopolitical games. But it will affect them one way or another. The people I detest are those who should be able to understand, who are informed, who has received warnings, who has lived a long life and experienced various aspects of powergaming and still just sit there mumbling and fiddling.
Once the baby boomer generation dies off, and the young generation that gets their information from real sources and not from the MSM, then these phony BS wars and the constant feeding of the MIC will die. They are recognizing the evil in our government and fighting back, ie, the young hackers that are helping Elon expose the vast corruption in the US government. Before you get all pissed off at me for maligning the boomers, I am 69 and have recognized for years that far too many of my generation are democrat voting, MSM consuming, misinformed morons, that brag about how they don't even know how to turn on a computer. Their technological ignorance is exactly what has allowed our evil government to get as corrupt as it has. This same technology that our government uses against us is now being used against them to inform the masses of the vast corruption in government. Hopefully the masses will wake up and fight back. I'm not convinced yet that they will, because of the American stupidity that I have witnessed in my life thus far, but I haven't given up hope.
Cheers to all.
You hit the nail old man. Good to hear those words from a real American!
Live well.
These real sources are real for now, but the Cabal is getting ready to subvert them. AI doppelgangers are being developed to impersonate and quietly replace the dissenting voices on the web, and bring blogs like this one into the fold. Read Simplicius's warning at:
darkfutura.substack.com/p/ai-slop-n-mush-ramps-up
DUDE! Nailed it. I'm 73 and I know more than a couple that you reference here. Dumb as a box of hammers. Leaves me breathless. The more formal the education...the dumber they are. Bigly sad...
Most humans' "future" is the next 20 seconds.
A Virginian: I see it more as we dont care about winning an artificial boogieman war, we just want to quit wasting money we are taxed.
The US will walk away. Hopefully, sooner because then Trump can blame Biden. Trump has cards to work with because he didn't cause this war. He can create a safe saving narrative unlike Biden. So I suspect that they will move on from this war soon. It doesn't have to be a surrender. They can sell a redemption story. Blame USA warmongers. Speak up about a new USA who is for peace , unity and redemption
Could the US be forced to concede? (Ever) and what would such a scenario look like?
The U.S. would probably never verbally concede because it finds that intolerable. But don't forget that the U.S. literally ran from Vietnam, Somalia and Afghanistan. Trump is in the process of leaving Europe now. And we'll have to wait to see how far that process goes.
The Europeans and the U.S. Deep State are fighting hard to keep the U.S. in Europe. And we can't forget that Trump isn't leaving Europe because he wants peace. He's leaving because he wants to focus on war with China. He sees China as America's number one enemy right now.
On a personal basis Trump is separating himself from any association with the war by rebranding himself as a president of peace. And constantly reminding us that the war never would've happened had he been president.
This though makes no sense because there was a time when he was president and the war was happening but he never raised one objection to the war. He never talked about ending it in 24 hours. He instead sent javelin anti-tank missles to the Ukrainian army. Imposed sanctions on Russia and kicked Russian diplomats out of the U.S.
Trump's whole messaging is off. Now he wants to bring peace but on the basis that the U.S. saves face and is able to somehow keep its foot in the door where it doesn't belong.
That isn't peaceful. That means ongoing war. The words peace and America don't belong in the same sentence.
Russia will keep going until Ukraine is destroyed and her men all dead.
I'm good with that. As long as they have a weapon in their hands they are worm food.
Wow cruel. Have pity on Ukrainians not the Nazis. Many have suffered under British propaganda
Ok, so your logic is if an armed group is murdering your citizens it's ok, they are victims of propaganda so please don't shoot back.
All Ukraine's men are Russians, so Russia definitely does not want that. Not everyone out there is as unprincipled and vindictive as the US and UK, don't project.
Pretty incredible that the spent, collapsed, exhausted, weaponless AFU was able to recapture Toretsk. Sometimes we need to face our own cope, no?
As for Trump, he is such a disappointment. He can't even make a stupid tariff stick against CANADA. Regardless of the wisdom of it, he dithers and walks back and backs off so easily. I really expected Trump 2.0 to be more resolved than this. So the peace talks I reckon are mostly BS. He is focusing on Ukraine because Ukraine costs him money.
As for Russia, they need to come to grips with the reality that Europe, UK, Ukraine, will be permanently hostile for years to come, and organise themselves accordingly. I have doubts they will prevail
I stopped reading at the Toretsk disinformation.
Do you consider Suriyakmaps to be disinformation?
I think it was the bit where you claim the AFU recaptured Toretsk. It took the Russians many months to take the city. Do you really think the Ukrainians can recapture it in a few days?
I dont think anything. I see the reporting and the mappers.
That's not true. You are barely doing any research.
See my own comment explaining what is going on. I cannot be bothered to write it all out again.
I found 2 comments from you. Presumably you are referring to the "withdrawal and kill everyone who steps back in" one.
Sounds nice, but, as Simplicious and most mappers are pointing out, the city was wholly controlled by the RuAF, and now it is not. Its a fairly important place too, so, you can continue to write exasperated comments but I think I will accept what's in front of me
We have been here enough times for me to take it as history repeating itself. But if for you, this time it is different, fine, just watch how it unfolds.
Has it been "recaptured" or is it just "not wholly controlled"? You're confusing, I suggest you do some thinking of your own before posting.
There is something called fog of war. RuAF was in full control of the city, then the AFU re-infllitrated in parts. I expected them to be expelled almost immediately, but then the infiltration grew and grew, to the extent that RuAF was forced to retreat to the east. The AFU has made similar captures of Udachyne (sp) and other minor spots. Wartears has almost reported a 75% reduction in AFU casualties over the past week (if you rate their analysis, I think its pretty useless). I mention Toretsk because of its strategic importance and not the other spots because they are irrelevant. There are different commanders handling different areas and it is possible that something went wrong.
It is telling to me that rather than engage in substance of what is happening on the front, you try to resort to an ad hominem against me. So, please, let us part ways here, skip over my comments in the future.
Look at WWII. From spring 1943 onwards, the Germans had some superb combat units. Well equipped, well trained. They shifted them from one place to another. These units achived unbelivable results. But the very moment the Soviets knew where these few units were, they started an attack at another place, penetrated the German lines and destroyed a lot of normal German divisions. And of course, the propaganda showed the perfect results of these few superb units, and a lot of people believed it, until the Germans in Prussia found out the hard way, that the war is not won by such tiny elite units. Look more on the general Russian tactics, as Peter the Great did it, Kutuzov did it and Shukov did it and all three of them won on the long run.
What is your sense on Russian casualties? I think the 100k mediazona is too low, maybe lags by 3-4 months. I accept your argument - Russians have superior logistics and industry for sure. But is it as expensive for them in 2025 as it was in ww2? I dont doubt that toretsk will eventually be fully controlled, but wow this is really like pulling teeth
I think the Russian losses are lower, and the Ukrainian are higher. Mediazona is doing very scientific work, but even they have to follow some narratives. Since WWI, we know when the real losses occur, meaning any form of movement, and which weapon is the most important one—artillery and aerial bombs. Drones increased the killing capacity of these dramatically. Only Russia has gun barrels that can deliver exact hits; most of the Ukrainian ones are worn out. The Russians seem to have two to ten times more shells (depending on which source you use). And then comes another big factor: medical service. Only a very few soldiers are immediately killed by the enemy. They got internal injuries from the blast, splinters penetrating the skin, or some other cruel damage to the body. The question is, are you able to make a quick first treatment so that the soldier lives a little longer, and after this, can you ASAP bring him to higher-level medical care? The faster, the more chance that a healthy soldier will leave the hospital; the slower, the more are dead or disabled. It was Dima from militarysummary who pointed out that the Russians always start an offensive with drones controlling the ways in and out of the attack zone. This means, while the Russians can easily transport the wounded out of the combat zone, the Ukrainians cannot! Maybe to understand the extreme work of Russian helpers, look at the videos of the attack on the Terricon in Avdeivka. Whenever a vehicle was hit, immediately another vehicle was there, loading the wounded and returning home. I think the Russian commander used more than half of his force on the rescue operation (maybe more). I have never heard of such tactics by the Ukrainians.
Thanks for that.
I wonder if we are seeing an "inter war" period right now where drones and infantry fight together, but in the near future wars will be mostly drone-on-drone at exponential scale. I suspect the Chinese, if they ever show what they can do, will present a battlefield where there are 100 drones for every soldier. In the battle of drone vs EW I think drone eventually wins, because of autonomy, and so the best defense against a drone will be another drone.
First, do your research. Trump paused SOME tariffs. 2, some companies from Canada and Mexico are planning to move to the USA. 3, don't discount the fact that Trump paused intel, weapons, and satellite. 4, don't overestimate toresk. It will soon become a trap like Kursk.
Russia will prevail because it has no alternative.
Without a doubt
Thank you for another comprehensive analysis. Personally, I have no effing idea what's going to happen next.
It’s been quite a rollercoaster trip, the last couple of weeks. It has been very rough for me the last week with the utter stupidity and lies coming from these EU creatures, the politicians and Mark Rutte.
And the dishonesty from the US criminals too. These scumbags in the USA really do believe that if they pretend they had nothing to do with goading the ukranian military in to attacking their own for 8 years with the ultimate aim of drawing Russia in to the conflict, that we will go along with the charade.
the Trumptards have no trouble swallowing the lies and obfuscations as they don't have critical thinking skills in abundance.
He's one of many prime candidates for a good Gaddaffying.
In fact, if you go back to the Dutch year of disaster in 1672, when the liberal DeWitt brothers were the leaders, you'll find the good citizen's of the republic got hold of them, killed them and cannibalised some of their remains. Will history repeat itself? 😁🤞
Like so many others, you allow yourself to be misdirected towards the stuffed scarecrow stooges. Yes, they are reprehensible, but should be beneath your contempt. Save your hatred for the masters.
some say Trump's got dementia
No, Trump is very intelligently erecting a smokescreen of conflicting statements, behind which he is working consistently towards his ends. It's like the drone cage on the turtle tanks; it looks silly, but it works.
Disclaimer: note that I am not saying Trump is principled or noble; just that he is clever. No endorsement is implied. But stupid he is not.
I'd state he's cunning like a rat, not clever.
You ascribe to purpose what is just dementia.
Trust the plan, where I heard it before january the 6 th?
Doubt
Ain't that the truth.
It is much easier to predict the moves, as in chess, if the players are rational and competent. But hardly anyone is, these days. Even the Russians, who are clearly the adults in the room, often allow timidity and generosity to overcome their interest. Everyone judges by himself, and the Russians mistakenly project their own attitudes on the adversary---this has been the source of many wasted opportunities.
The others, of course, are much, much worse when it comes to rationality, not to even mention competence. So overall, I have no confidence in what is going to happen either, mostly because of that. Too much brain rot inevitably breeds chaos.