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Globetrotter's avatar

Once again, yet more spam ...

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

A half dozen judiciously placed missiles taking out the London subway system would give these barking, tireless Nazis something to ponder. The whole shit-show called Little Britain would grind to a halt, post-haste. "People say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..."

Albertron's avatar

I can assure you, none of the British establishment responsible for this war have ever used the subway, and wouldn't give the faintest shit if it got blown up.

Only ordinary working Brits would suffer, once again.

If you want to act like the big man why not suggestattacking where these people are actually based, if you even know.

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PFC Billy's avatar

Hey, I bathe regularly and I even clean my machete between uses!

grr's avatar

Just like a dick; a machete must be wiped clean after use.

occamsrazorback22's avatar

Albertron, please pass me a tissue so I can dab that solitary salty tear running down my cheek. Ask me if I give a flying fuck about the empty headed gorillas and canon fodder that prop up this centuries old Brit criminal enterprise. Um, not so much. The English speaking have been a plague on this planet for too long. If not for my advanced age, I'd move to a corner of the planet where I don't even have to hear English being spoken. Enough already...

Ever read about these brave Limeys tying up Indians at the business end of cannon and blowing them to smithereens? Ever read about the Irish potato hunger where people were reduced to eating their neighbors...all thanks to to the awful English.

A very small violin plays for these people...

Albertron's avatar

Spoken like a true psychopath, well done.

And thank you for showing us who you truely are…

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

Sweet Albatross, just don't call me "late for lunch"...

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Albertron's avatar

He just passionately called for the deaths of 1 million plus people on the basis of some historical collective responsibility, but I'm the one who needs to lighten up?

Ernest Judd's avatar

Looking in the mirror?

Squeeth's avatar

It makes you realise that the dictatorships of the C20th were Johnny-come-latelys doesn't it? Fair's fair though it was the Seppoes who invented concentration camps.

PFC Billy's avatar

@Squeeth

Wait, does seppoes = Brits?

I thought it was a pejorative applied to yanks?

Squeeth's avatar

Seppo equals septic tank, rhymes with Yank. Concentration camps were invented by genial Andrew Jackson.

Dhdh's avatar

stop with the "nazi" nonsense - this is a jew war.... send a Russian relief flotilla to Palestine

Squeeth's avatar

You shouldn't blame the British people, the country isn't democratic so it isn't our fault.

Ernest Judd's avatar

Go and pray outside an abortion clinic, and when the coppers come to arrest you, kick the living shit out of them.

When 5 coppers come to your door because you stated your disappointment with the govmnt online... go ahead make their day!

Look at some point you will have to resort to disobedience to maintain your sanity.

Otherwise you'll end up bent over an Ottoman.

Squeeth's avatar

When I need your advice I'll ask for it.

PFC Billy's avatar

@Ernest Judd

T. E. Lawrence enjoyed that one time he was bent over by an Ottoman, it takes all kinds I guess.

Squeeth's avatar

'Ow dare you! I'm not brainwashed.

occamsrazorback22's avatar

I've been to Britain on a couple of occasions starting in 1970. I found the people to be pleasant enough. I remember hitch-hiking in England and getting a ride from a Welsh lorry driver. He talked endlessly and I didn't understand a single word he uttered. Been to Scotland and Wales too but missed Ireland.

Squeeth's avatar

I'm still exploring the British Isles, like the people, don't like the state.

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

I was at Walmart a couple of days ago and the checkout gal had ID that indicated her name: "Kharma". The sweet smell of seven ayem herb in the parking lot and always a rousing good time here as this store is in the 'hood. I complimented the young woman on her engaging name and wondered if her parents had a memorable one-nighter or just a fun sense of humor. It was a name that reminded me that the collective criminal, pirate West is finally getting their comeuppance...meeting their karma if you will. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Karma is a bitch...

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She's just a "Permanent reminder of a temporary feeling"?

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NiggleS's avatar

Successfully took out the decoy.

Would be on par for a Patriot battery....

VirginiaSteve's avatar

I don’t think that the Russian missile actually hit the Patriot battery. Looking closely at the video it seems to have impacted close but not directly where the patriots were fired from. I believe the accuracy of everyone’s missiles is exaggerated in this war. Perhaps a reason that this conflict is dragging on so long. There is still no substitute in war for taking and occupying ground.

NiggleS's avatar

Remember: A Patriot battery is a dispersed set of elements, the important target is the radar, followed by the control trailer. These are set well away from the launchers (because noise and flames) so an incoming Iskander/ KN-23 hitting its target will land well away from the visible launch point of Patriot missiles, depending on the viewing angle. A hit on a TEL with missiles in it will produce spectacular fireworks. A hit on the radar will show nothing....

abcdefg's avatar

Thanks Simplicius. So much going on, good you're keeping up with it.

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M Sparacino's avatar

Quit side-tracking the topic you nazi-nato troll.

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I do wonder Simp whether a point has or can be reach where an attritional war is a positive and the loss of civilians is to be demurred at or a sigh is significant enough and a turn towards the West or as is at present an acceptance of the memorandum from the arch enemy of dajjal is a solutions to the ongoing slaughter of wives and children.

The term Zanon is now being used what is your thoughts in regards this phenomena?

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rakyat kecil's avatar

G’day Jim, would that be thanks to the Russians or the hohols and their direct hits on multi story apartment buildings.

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rakyat kecil's avatar

Yes that is very true Jim but in some of their minds no especially now after 10 years of state brainwashing and intimidation.

Hans Kloss's avatar

I donno - I think there are plenty of Russian speaking Ukrainians this does not make them Russians. Whether there is a significant Russian leaning population on the West side of the river is difficult to say. I suppose there are some but do not know how big that group is. There are other minorities in Ukraine.

Once you are in the army you mostly follow orders. The drone operators hitting civilians or blowing up a bridge while a passenger train was coming is really difficult to explain as a military action. But I am not sure what I would do if an a.le with a gun stood on my side.

Martin's avatar

 The Ukraine conflict may go down in history as one of the lowest civilian to combatant ratio killed in modern history, except for the Keiv regime which deliberately targets civilians or hides behind them.

Simplicius's avatar

What exactly are you asking? Whether Russia should end the war to stop the civilian deaths?

Well, I think that stops the deaths in the short term, but leads to more of them in the longer term, so it's better to continue.

As for Zanon, I'm familiar with the term. My thoughts are both sides have their own Zanon/Qanon equivalents.

rakyat kecil's avatar

Let me preface my comment on the basis of not having read this latest posting and that up to this point in time civilian deaths have been put to the side and been discussed as whether it is an act of war or terrorism. In the destruction of a passenger train and the bridge above or below and the destruction of 90 year old heavy lift bombers and their connection to the nuclear triad it seems the acceptance of the memorandum is still paramount and continuing negotiations with dajjal is a consideration above all else.

In regards Qanon it appears to not be in existence any longer but Zanon it still prevalent, one could propose as to why but my thoughts were more around the reason for the existence of Zanon at all. What was Girkins crimes and why was he jailed when he was committed solely to the creation of Novorossiya and not an attack on Russia but its handling of the Donbass situation 10 years ago.

A continuation of the present situation of civilian deaths cannot be a positive along side negotiations with the perpetrator or its string puller.

Victor's avatar

Are you aware of a war without civilian deaths? Civilian deaths will stop when the war stops, but the war can't stop until its objectives have been met.

Angelina's avatar

Not always. After WWII stopped, the OUN bands were knifing the entire villages in the Western Ukraine till the mid-1950s, when they're finally apprehended, sent in gulag and Khrushchev pardoned them in the 1960s

Victor's avatar

Of course I meant as a direct result of battle. But you are correct - the Banderites have never been really eliminated.

Angelina's avatar

The Banderites, just like Siberian ulcer, will probably survive even in permafrost

Kassandra's avatar

In the Beskid borderarea Poland/Slovakia/Ukraine, these marauding OUN remnants hiding in the huge mountain forests continued with that, until a joint military operation in the sixties smoked them out finally. Then they went underground, supported by the German Bundesnachrichtendienst in close CIA cooperation.

Victor's avatar

The CIA has been supporting them since the end of WWII.

Hans Kloss's avatar

They were fighting in South East Poland too till Polish Army removed all the villagers from the area stripping the Banderites of food this way. The whole thing was called Operation Vistula.

Hans Kloss's avatar

You stopped short when listing a condition for ending war. Assuming the objectives of the West is partition of Russia or installing a Zelensky like puppet I suppose this would mean extraordinary amount of violence (especially partition) but even if no major violence were due in case of puppet installation in Kreml there would be long term repercussions of decaying Russian state in such case, similar in fact to the stuff that the way Middle America and northern parts of South American. On the other hand I suspect that collapse of Zelensky's regime would not yield a peace simp0ly because the trained staff would still be available and the money and orders from the West too.

Andy Francis's avatar

ZAnon refers to the "trust the plan" and even smug attitude that certain commentators in the pro Russia camp maintain. Chief among them IMHO is Andrei Martyanov.

These people make all sorts of excuses for Russia. When someone points out something that doesn't make sense about the narrative or any predictions of theirs that didn't come to fruition, these charlatans tend to lash out with name calling in the respective comments sections.

Dennis Math's avatar

Jeeez, and I had hoped I had heard the last of such drivel as "Qanon". Now we have a "Zanon"?

Jim Jackson's avatar

With your weak English, you stumbled into an inappropriate nickname. Don't use it again.

simp

/simp/

noun informal•North American

a silly or foolish person.

Ernest Judd's avatar

He probably speaks it better than most as he is not fully aware of the slang vernacular of many English dialects.

Soujourner's avatar

For all we know, Simplicius chose this as a pen name as a disclaimer based on 'silly or foolish' writings.

Soujourner's avatar

Jim, or should I address you as 'great wise one' or would 'oh pompous one'? Only you know all things including how to use the keyboard to access programmed information on the internet. How brilliant of you! Who would have thought, only you with the most superior mind, a mind greater than all of us. o you, perfect one, forgive us for our stupidity...

Jim, A little advice, Extinguish the superior haughty spirit before it extinguishes you. Poof!💥

Soujourner's avatar

I'd suggest that only Simplicius himself decide that.

What's up with the critical spirit? Sheesh.

Jim Jackson's avatar

You demonstrate the ultimate in simpery.

Feral Finster's avatar

Note that Russia's enemies could not care less about civilian deaths, their own or otherwise.

rakyat kecil's avatar

Very true FF but the world believes otherwise and I wonder whether holding the moral high ground in these dangerous times is beneficial to the Russian people.

Opport Knocks's avatar

Multiple Ukrainian and NAFO Channels on X today were touting another successful "Operation Spiderweb" attack, releasing drones from the tops of grain cars against a military train. They allege that 13 tanks and over 100 military vehicles were damaged. No drone footage so far though, which makes me suspicious.

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1931420496433745957

More "Ghost of Kyiv" nonsense to boost morale? Or did it really happen?

Simplicius's avatar

Yes, I've seen, but there is no evidence of it yet so seemed pointless to post. They posted videos of the real 'Spiderweb' immediately. Some obscure Russian channel claimed to 'confirm' it but there's no further confirmation from the Russian side, so we'll have to wait and see.

Bryan Goh's avatar

They seem to be posting footage from GTA, instead of footage of the destroyed vehicles, which alone is extremely suspicious.

GM's avatar

How big would that train composition be to have that much materiel on it?

Nobody does that anymore.

Likely a fake.

The Rightway's avatar

“Hotels with athletes gone”,,,Zelinsky and NATO imaginations have excelled themselves here, after Assad bombing his own pet shops and nurseries, Qaddafi bombing children’s homes,,

Goldhoarder's avatar

Ukraine has athletes with a manpower shortage? 😂

The Rightway's avatar

Male strippers and rent boys get a pass in Zelinskys world as well.

Eric Fuleftists's avatar

Lutsk Repair Plant! Underground drone manufacturing base! Patriot batteries! Shazam!!! Of course, all these targets were known about well before the various Ukrainian attacks, and therefore should have been on Russia's target list regardless. Once again, it's BAU (business-as-usual) for Señor Putin.

It's all far past disappointing. The good guys we thought we could depend on have turned Mexican...

TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out), and

PACO (Putin Always Chickens Out)

grr's avatar

Oh Eric, I pity your housemaid, as you've shit the bed once again.

Eric Fuleftists's avatar

Very profound response, full of logic and intelligence, just what I'd expect from you.

Keep up the great work, you're a credit to your... whatever.

rakyat kecil's avatar

I wholeheartedly concur Eric, it appears targets are found and tagged for a future retribution when it is too hard to acquiesce to the build of destruction and civilian deaths, even when accepting a memorandum.

Kennewick Man's avatar

If the information is correct and it is true that the AFU had 91,000 deserters in the last five months that is the beginning of the end. This rate would be proportionally a lot higher than desertions in the US Civil War of 1861. I have also seen an article today stating that Oleg Nomerovskiy a military leader of the forced collection of civilian men into the AFU was killed. His car was blown up on the road between Odessa and Beresovka.

Simplicius's avatar

Well, it would explain all the new terror attacks and desperation.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

According to GM Russia is on the brink of capitulation...

Jim Jackson's avatar

In 1864 and 1865, forced enlistment of boys under 18 and men over 40 in the remaining Confederate territory was resisted by killing local leaders of the Conscription Bureau. In January 1865, Captain Zeke Stewart was killed on the street in Ashville, Alabama in a gunfight with deserters. His replacement, Lt. Joseph Hargett, saw the light and concentrated on keeping his command's profile low for the duration. After May 1865 many scores were settled by the loyalists, aka Tories. There will likewise be many scores settled when Ukraine collapses, which is good because only Ukrainians can root out the Banderites.

Dhdh's avatar

how about rooting out the jew parasites like zelensky....

Dennis Math's avatar

I don't think one "roots out" parasitical Zionists but rather one gently removes them being careful to not leave the head, much like any other tick.

And please, when referring to the genocidal maniacs that are in constant baby killing mode in the middle east, don't refer to them by the religion some of the residents believe in but call them for what they are, that being "Zionists". Look carefully and you will see these Zionists attacking real believers in Judaism within the country the two "camps" share.

Dhdh's avatar

lol. As you know Jew is race. You can even spot them oftentimes just by looking.

Vade Retro's avatar

this is the kind of dumb shit that made me to cancel my subscription here.

i mean if the host tolerates this kind of stupid hateful shit here just because of engagement/subscriptions what else can he tolerate/do?

Yoni Reinón's avatar

I am sure the conscription residtance incidents and attacks to the drafting squads have been much more numerous but have been hidden for propaganda purposes. They will only be known with the nazis out.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

There is still a 4th hypothesis to explain Ukraine's holding on: Mercenaries. They are being increasingly spotted at the front. Consider the conquest of Assad's Syria was achieved thanks to reportedly from 200 to 300 thousand "yihadist beheaders", in fact mercenaries from Irak, Lybia, Sudan, Tunis, Xinjiang, Chechenya, Morocco, Jordan, Turkiye, Lebanon, Arabia and Syria itself. The colombians in UKraine claim they are being paid circa 4000 dollars a month. For 200 thousand mercs makes 800 million a month, around 10 billion a year. Perfectly affordable for the EU-UK-USA combo. By the way, the line about Ukraine being involved in North Stream was bizarrely misleading. Who can believe that? The future history books of a winning NATO empire?

Kennewick Man's avatar

The Nord Stream explosions took place at a water depth between 70 and 80 meters. They required a total of 400 to 500 kg military grade explosive and specially trained divers to dive with multiple tanks to operate at that depth. The problem is that the operation could have been carried out from the 50 feet sailboat Andromeda operated by Ukrainians or by any number of nations owning mini-submarines operable from navy boats. The related coverage by controlled Western media is trying to muddy the available information by injecting absurd stories about Russian involvement even. The Russians were the least likely players here as it was in their best interest to preserve the pipelines for future use. The most likely culprits is the US/UK duo. The US has an uninterrupted long record of attacking nations with large fossil fuel exports in order to remove them from the market.

Nine O’Clock Moscow Time's avatar

I have never understood why that story continued to be discussed and new hypotheses floated, when Seymour Hersh painstakingly unraveled the whole plot barely 6 months after the event, and various independent journalists corroborated individual elements of his story.

Aurorus Borealus's avatar

Because Seymour Hersh is willing participant in CIA disinformation and always has been.

frankly's avatar

The open blatant prediction/promise by Biden himself was the full stop moment for me. It's similar to the "Unprovoked" line that still gets jammed down our throats.

What baffles me most though is who that pipeline act of war was most directed at, Germany or Russia?

That computer users can be convinced that Russia blew up their own future is very discouraging to me, is common sense dead?

The most obvious conclusion? For me the centralized control of the whole world is being pursued. Expect dirty tricks and heartless cruelty.

Feral Finster's avatar

1. I'd need some evidence of mercenary recruitment on the scale you are talking about.

2. Of course Ukraine did not blow up NS.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

The Saudis were assigning 5 billion dollars a year to pay mercenaries in Yemen. Same for Qatar in Syria. I mean these are relatively small amounts that can be easily discounted from the budget in order to make the war last. That could work in Ukraine to. I only read about 4 to 5 K Polish and a similar number of colombians. For the anglosphere and French, there must be a few thousands too. These number could be increased in the months to come. Of course, many of them are not real mercenaries, but undercover troops. I think this is the only viable option Ukraine has.

Feral Finster's avatar

Let me know when we see Polish hospitals being crammed with wounded mercenaries, thousands of Polish wives, girlfriends and mothers demanding answers, etc..

It's the dog that didn't bark.

Jack_Forest's avatar

It's also possible that those are not desertions, but rathat KIAs that Zelensky doesn't want to pay for. That's the same reason why they refused to accept 6000 AFU dead bodies from the Russians.

Vade Retro's avatar

yup, they are shitting on their own dead for money, they are accusing their fallen soldiers of cowardice and desertion.

Dhdh's avatar

Why would the Jew zelensky care about dead goyim ?

ann watson's avatar

I see what you mean about the optic cables in the wilderness - poor wildlife.

Simplicius's avatar

Images have been circulating that claim birds are already building nests out of them: https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931447704237846908/photo/1

ann watson's avatar

I saw that !!! But these cables probably kill more than they help - its just another collateral damage. They need to be cut- the soldiers didn't pull on it but had to cut it. that was a good choice for which one to cut. But they will get around animals legs - although how many animals could there even be in those woods now I wonder

jsarnak's avatar

Just typical westerner BS suffering such outrage over the wildlife while we have the US/NATO/EU funding, planning and attacking civilians in Russia and the same for a Genocide in Palestine. You know what "we" in the west need?? Our family members destroyed by missiles while driving to work in the morning. Maybe then people will wake up to reality

Glasshopper's avatar

Highlighting animal suffering is always important and noteworthy. It has nothing to do with sidelining human suffering. Except in your head. 🦌

HBI's avatar

Just the usual crap by the usual suspects who know nothing of war, or of life on a frontier, for that matter.

It's tiresome. Take a walk in the real world where people are struggling for survival and animal welfare is meaningless, unless it impacts warfare such as pack animals.

M Sparacino's avatar

F humans! There's too many of us anyway. At least I can console myself knowing that we'll be extinct in under 100 years.

Tom's avatar

No, we certainly don't "need" that. Actually I don't even know why that stupid war is still going on. Lots of people (and animals) dying for no reason whatsoever, except some harebrained scheme by politicians, who do not fight, to "extend Russia" or whatever was the idea that didn't even work. It has certainly not benefitted Ukrainians in any way. But I'm not sure it's good for Russia either. The only ones who have made a killing, pardon the pun, are weapon manufactures, who keep inventing new ways of making the rubes kill each other, now with "fibre optic drones". I care more about wildlife.

Dhdh's avatar

nature will find a way...

PFC Billy's avatar

@ann watson

A single strand of glass fiber optic cable has a breaking strength similar to 10 lb. fishing line. If you've ever seen birds and small animals tangled/snared by fishing line? The whole zone of contact must be a death trap for wildlife vulnerable to this. Additionally, plastic fishing line degrades from UV and even eventually undergoes bacterial attack- But glass will probably last for centuries.

War always sucked, modern warfare is sucking in whole new ways.

ann watson's avatar

yes Billy - to say nothing of under the water - here is a totally fantatic inteview with the Romanian guy Cailin Georgescu - the interview was conducted by Reiner Fuellmich - now in prison in Germany for something fraudulent - I mean the charges against him- and this interview with Cailin Georgescu shows Cailin's knowlege about nature and the environment - that was his position in the UN - Environment - https://www.bitchute.com/video/wZ4qOS7Z3lGf/ - but his election win was wiped out by the powers that be. Its a horrifying picture Cailin gives of the underwater trawling...omg. We humans, when we group together in a corporation are world destroyers. That's what war is now - corporate warfare. All those filthy ways to kill humans are coming out of corporations.

PFC Billy's avatar

Part way through. Lots of true or plausible information, a dew odd notes I couldn't believe without verification too.

I would question if Marshallese Islanders typically lived to 180 - 200 years old before the Western atmospheric and underwater nuclear testing started in the 1940s.

I might believe that those Islanders surviving to adulthood typically lived to be 80 - 100 if not physically injured in the time before imported diseases (and vices) penetrated their culture. Living off of imported processed food in a radiologically contaminated environment, using tobacco and alcohol as they now do, the statistics show they die around age 60 on a average- And their leading causes of death are cancer and diabetes, followed by imported diseases and "lifestyle" diseases related to drugs, alcohol and sedentary lives (no more substance agriculture, fishing and gathering for food to keep them active/fit, working in tourism or menial factory work, eating imported junk food and watch TV).

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wZ4qOS7Z3lGf/

ann watson's avatar

that's awesome - keep going. it gets better and better towards the end. I find Reiner a bit annoying - sometimes he interrupts during an expose. About the lifespan of the Islanders. I'm not sure if they used to eat processed foods. Maybe not until the US barged into their shores. There's an island off the coast of Nova Scotia where there are horses that raportedly live to be 80 years old. Under very harsh circumstances. Not sure about that either but who can prove ? What he says about pedophilia in the UN - ' They're all of them pedophiles all of them " I found shocking - but Reiner didn't want to go there. Thanks for watching Billy

ReynMeLo's avatar

Seriously! Kremlin, Putin, Russia need to stop bombing the bloody shit out of Ukraine, it's like slapping and punching the little kid who keeps stealing your candy and pulling your pants down, but he's being pushed and ruled by a bigger bully. They will never seriously address the CORE problem. Such a waste of time... dump Putin.

grr's avatar

LOL. General Moron has a new online identity.

Cheryl Shepherd's avatar

I blocked GM long ago, that made the comments section much shorter and more readable

grr's avatar

To be fair, his comments are good for a laugh.

Chevrus's avatar

Sometimes, but the low-level belligerents gets annoying and they are far too long and then people feed him and it gets worse

Aurorus Borealus's avatar

Let us review GM's positions on issues. 1) He thinks climate change is a major global problem. 2) He thinks that the world population should be reduced to 500 million. 3) He wants Putin removed from power. 4) He thinks that Russia should launch a limited first-strike nuclear attack on NATO countries that invites a full-scale nuclear response.

Are these the positions of a Russian patriot? A generic internet troll? No... these are the exact positions of the Dr. Strangeloves among the Western oligarchy and intelligence apparatus. So, who is GM? A Russian patriot? No. A generic internet troll? No. He is an intelligence operative running a disinformation campaign to try to drum up support among dissident Russian expats and English speakers for the removal of Putin.

Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

GM has some value as entertaining.

mary-lou's avatar

troll alert (GM), thrives on responses.

rakyat kecil's avatar

It is called cancel culture and look at the divided society it leaves in its wake and followed closely by Trump and society fragmentation.

The people ending up imprisoned by the state who are registered residents will only increase and followed by who knows what??

Dhdh's avatar

why is GM being attacked? he has fair points all along and interesting commentary.

NiggleS's avatar

No, he doesn't, unfortunately.

And advocates for nukes just a short scroll down, right on cue....

Gnuneo's avatar

His consistency makes me wonder if he's a 'traditional troll', rather just someone with an honest, if somewhat skewed, version of reality?

I don't agree with his POV, but he is consistent in his narrative. I think we just have to be terrified that there are people just like him in Western think tanks except pro-NATO bias.

"To achieve our aims the easiest we will adopt plan C, which is to nuke everything east of Berlin to the Russian border. That will prevent Russian expansion".

They're the kind of people you wouldn't put in charge of a PC game lol, let alone Reality.

PFC Billy's avatar

@Gnuneo

One of the last things General Douglas MacArthur did before he FINALLY got sacked was to propose using cobalt "salted" nuclear bombs along their border to isolate North Korea from China. Apparently he was serious in his belief that this was do-able and a good strategy.

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"His plan was to drop between 30 and 50 atomic bombs-strung across the neck of Manchuria, and spread behind us, from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea- a belt of radioactive cobalt for at least 60 years there would be no invasion of Korea from the North. The Russians, he claimed, would be intimidated by this and do nothing."

Peter Joy's avatar

Well, SOMETHING had to be done: "I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

Gnuneo's avatar

Latest version of Rock, Paper, Scissors:

Communism beats Fluoride.

Fluoride beats Islam.

Islam beats Communism.

Gnuneo's avatar

Perhaps the USA needs to stop turning frontline states into proxy states for long planned wars of Imperial expansion?

Just a thought.

Concerned Celtiberian's avatar

This is pretty much what is happening here.

NATO & co. kick Russia in the balls.

Russia responds by punching UKR in the teeth.

The “West” opens a beer.

Putin and is oligarch friends check the status of their offshore bank accounts.

Then another cycle goes on, and another, and another…

Alistair P-M's avatar

Stop bombing Ukraine and just start an open war with the US? Do you want to be incinerated?

GM's avatar

Do you want to just die a slow death by a thousand cuts inflicted on you by the real enemy through a proxy?

And no, Russia will not get incinerated if this is played right.

There is a clear winning move here that arises from one of the two key fundamental asymmetries here -- the US is fighting through proxies, Russia is fighting on its own soil -- and from the other fundamental factor behind all this, which is that the US will go to the brink of nuclear war, but will not cross that line if it is sure that it will die too. Better alive and without empire than dead.

This means that Russia can eliminate the proxies with nukes (that includes France and the UK, and in fact eliminating those, if it is technically feasible, would send the strongest possible message) as well as the US presence in Eurasia, and the US will then take the loss and stand down because all that will be left then is to strike directly at Russia, ensuring their own death. But it has to be played right -- a well coordinated operation to disarm France and the UK (assuming the Kremlin goes for them too and does not limit itself to the non-nuclear proxies) and a massive IRBM and hypersonic cruise missile strike on NATO and the US in Eurasia.

Again, a fundamental asymmetry -- the US cares less about its proxies than Russia does about itself.

But as I mentioned, there are two of these asymmetries. The other one works against Russia, and so far the West is very skillfully exploiting it, and decisively winning the war as a result. Just as it won the Cold War by exploiting the same weakness.

Which is that Russian elites have fundamentally misaligned interests with those of the country as a whole. This is expressed symbolically in the fact that they have more residential property in London than in Moscow, thus London is likely off limits for nukes for that reason alone, but the deeper issue is that Western elites are fighting this war in order to preserve their own status and the system that benefits them (to this end, they must loot Russia's resources), while if Russian elites are to begin fighting the war seriously, they will have to replace the current system that benefits them with something in which there will be no place for them. Something smelling of that dirty unspeakable "Stalinism" word.

Russia's tragedy is that the Bolsheviks took power in 1917, then in 1929 Stalin said "We have a decade to catch up with the West, or we will be destroyed for good in the coming big war", in 1939 the war started, in 1941 Stalin was still caught with his pants down, but had done his job preparing the country in the 1930s, so it prevailed eventually, albeit at a catastrophic cost. But Putin took power in 1999, tried to suck up to the West, that did not work, then he gave that speech in 2007, which was a clear evidence he knew a big war is coming, but he never prepared the country for that inevitable pending big war, and did not begin the process of preparation even after the war started. Which is how and why it is so easy for someone to send trucks loaded with drones all over the giant country, approach the most sensitive military bases, and hit them very badly. With those trucks never being stopped anywhere other than by heroic bystanders.

Plus the moratorium on fighting seriously that seems to have been imposed by the Russian oligarchy.

This is the price Russia is paying for being capitalist, and it will be its downfall. But current leadership is ideologically committed to that, so there will be no changes. Plus it's too late anyway, because the missiles are about to start flying into Russia very soon, there is no time to be changing the socioeconomic system, and very little time to begin mobilizing seriously.

Imagine how things would be in Soviet times.

First, there would be no oligarchs with mansions in the UK, dual citizenship with Israel, and all sorts of other compromising connections, hanging around Putin and telling him what to do. The moment the country was under threat the Politburo would get together, issue the necessary directives, and the problem would be dealt with decisively. In fact, it would be dealt with decisively long before it got to the point where the country is directly attacked -- this was the essence of the actions in 1956, 1968 and in Afghanistan.

Second, the kind of internal security that existed back then would make Operation Spiderweb impossible. Both because the KGB was good at doing its job (note that the Ukrainian SBU is the direct descendant of the Ukrainian KGB, only with the sign flipped, while the Russian KGB was disbanded and the FSB and SVR refounded from scratch, with all the loss in competence and continuity that entails) and because the economic system itself would not allow it. Take a look at how this was done -- someone founded a private company in Chelyabinsk, rented a warehouse, did whatever he wanted there with no supervision, built the trucks there, then hired people to drive them to Murmansk and Irkutsk. That is simply not happening in the USSR because all warehouses and trucks would be under the control of some state enterprise. Private individuals would simply not have the access to resources to pull this off. Thus this whole attack vector would be cut off. You would perhaps be able to launch a small number of drones from private cars, but that would be a very small number of drones, and even that supply chain would be under very tight control making that difficult too.

In Putin's Russia? It's a free for all, total anarchy, no internal security. In the fourth year of a war for Russia's very survival...

Haywood Jablome's avatar

Now would not be a good time to nuke the UK and France. Prevailing winds are Westerly or Southwesterly. All that radiation blowing East/Southeast.

Frank Sailor's avatar

I will spare you and me the disection of your rant, the flaws it has are too many...

Just that much: Russia is not at war, Russia is doing an SMO, probably now converted into a ATO, since that speech of President Putin last week.

You can't have freedom and a thriving economy if you bind costly resources to a surveillance of your population that is, in majority loyal and patriotic.

How that's going to work out we will see very soon in the west - use of Palantier on a great scale - against your own population.

What's a continious riddle to me; why the Russians are so stupid and do everything wrong whilst you (and some others) seem to perfectly know what needs to be done?

Especially the talk about nukes is telling me that you have no clue about the consequences of the use of such a weapon.

By the way, thank you for wanting to try to kill me or at least make me die slowly on radioactive contaminated land, since I live where the consrquences of such a strike would occur.

GM's avatar

Look, the nuclear triad was rather successfully attacked, and a triple digit number of light cruise missiles (euphemistically called "drones") flies into Russia every night, with at least one or two industrial objects being hit in each such raid.

Western long-range GMLRS is firing 100 km into Russia, and has pushed Russian AD even deeper, as a result of which Western aviation is dropping guided bombs onto Russian territory as part of combined arms operations to seize Russian territory (Tetkino is almost lost by now).

And the front lines are barely moving.

Ukraine has not been demilitarized, has not been denazified, and has not in any way been removed as a threat. The precise opposite of all that has happened.

These are the empirical, rather hard to argue with, "results" in the fourth year of Russia doing an SMO and "not being at war".

I don't claim to be the all-knowing expert who is certain to win this if put in charge (although there are also a lot of obvious concrete steps to be taken to solve the problem that should definitely help, but for some mysterious reasons are not taken), but I sure as hell know that the current leadership has failed catastrophically.

Herman's avatar

"... the current leadership has failed catastrophically."

I don't live in Russia and I am not an expert in Russian matters, but I would think that it was rather Yeltsin and Gorbachev who failed catastrophically and that Putin was the leader who has saved Russia. That is the reason why he is so hated in the West. He drove away the vultures that were feasting on Russia's corpse.

Herman's avatar

If only in the rest of Europe we had a leader like Putin, a man who really cares about his country, we would not be in the process of becoming a part of Africa and the Middle East. If you are a Russian, be grateful, GM. Politicians like Putin are rare.

BillLawson's avatar

The kremlin made a terrible mistake launching a half passed invasion of Ukraine in 2022 with a military that was woefully small for the task set it. Never mind the stupidity of leaving hundreds of billions of your sovereign assets in the hands of western financial institutions. Why were those assets not withdrawn from the West?

The kremlin fails to understand that the imperialist West only understands and respects force. You are wasting your time with diplomacy with them. Empires in decline, like the US, cannot be trusted or reasoned with. They will never give up on the goal of destroying Russia which they've had since the October Revolution of 1917.

Putin like Yeltsin, Gorbachev all tried at different times to appease the imperialist West. It is a fools errand trying to do so.

Apologist for Putin fail to understand that the patience of the Russian people with the war is not limitless. The continuation of terrorist attacks will undermine support for putins government which is exactly what Kiev is counting on.

Wars are easy to get involved in but difficult to bring to an end. From a military perspective it would make sense to try and end the war this year especially with the threat of a global economic recession increasing by the day.

Max's avatar

After the start of the special military operation, Russia’s elites realized they were no longer welcome in the West when their assets began being seized. This is precisely why the outflow of capital from Russia to the West came to a halt.

Instead, these elites began reinvesting their money inside Russia, opening new factories and production facilities. Just look at how much has been built over the years of military conflict.

This is why none of the elites now sympathize with the West or care to mourn for London. In Russia, they live more comfortably-and more securely.

MaryJane's avatar

Well, it was not possible in USSR because remote drone technology did not exist back then. So all the credit goes to the engineers. Now every child can launch a drone, it's insanely easy to do terror attacks using them, and that was something obvious even to someone like me who is as far from anything military as can get. Unless humankind finds an antidote to them, it will only get worse.

Black Teddy's avatar

Do Ukrainians who defect to Russia have to join the Russian military?

The Spectre's avatar

They do become POW's.

But there is an Ukrainian unit within Russian forces. Mostly civilians.

As to Ukrainian deserters, they do run within country. Some go to a region near Chernobyl nuclear plant which is not controlled by TCC. That is an empty town, with furnished flats. Food collected from forests.

Some deserters cross through Carpatian Mountains to Romania or Belorus

GM's avatar

>Some deserters cross through Carpatian Mountains to Romania

Where they get hunted mercilessly by border guards, shooting to kill.

In fact, the whole border is fenced with barbed wire, watchtower, armed guards, etc. in the best traditions of the Cold War, but that is to keep people in, not out. Democracy and all...

Forte Shades's avatar

Could we hire them for the Mexican border?

GM's avatar

Be careful what you wish for.

They are already being hired, but for much more sinister purposes than policing the Mexican border. Keep in mind how Ukraine was subjugated with basically 10,000 or so armed thugs recruited from football hooligans and other such groups. It really wasn't all that much more than that prior to 2014. But certain oligarchs saw the value in raising these private armies, and they existed. And they were the ones who went out on the streets in Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, etc. and started cracking heads and making sure anybody not happy with Banderization would stay quiet. Since then they expanded enormously, and after the war started even more so.

So now imagine what happens if the war continues under the same rules of engagement but Russia is somehow victorious (it's hard to see how, but for the sake of argument). The Ukro-Nazis are pushed to the Polish border, and then they run away into Poland and spread around Europe. You think tens of thousands of highly ideologically motivated Nazis, well trained in real combat, will just easily integrate into the civilian population? You are in for a rude awakening.

They will be used by the Western oligarchs to be their muscle in order to crack down on whatever dissent there might be in the West. It's not a hypothesis at all, it is already being prepared.

Yet another reason why it is imperative for Russia to immediately cut off the borders, and physically exterminate all these people. Not because the sheep in the West do not deserve what is going to happen to them, but because the presence of those people in the West will eventually come back to bite Russia itself too.

John Osman's avatar

Why does Russia care if thousands of Ukrainian Banderites terrorise the West?

Martin's avatar

I’ve seen footage of a unit composed only of former Ukrainian POWs who volunteered to fight in their words "fight against the Zelensky regime & against foreign influences" I've seen several different sources on this but here's Patrick Lancaster's report.

Ex- Ukrainian Soldiers Fighting Against Ukraine Forces React to Donald Trump's Peace plan

https://youtu.be/Zjiomyqm-jM

Jullianne's avatar

This is how the NATO-european commentary goes: Yah boo sucks, Russia won't do anything. It is all bluff. We can escalate as much as we like. Scaredy cat! Send in more missiles.......

Then the strikes.

FOUL. UNFAIR. IT MUST STOP. when is America going to do SOMETHING TO STOP THIS? PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED!

GM's avatar

>Russia won't do anything. It is all bluff.

So far it has been all a bluff, and long after absolutely unimaginable in the past thresholds have been crossed too.

Thus the West's assessment has been very accurate.

Frank Sailor's avatar

The West's assessment has been wrong from the start - President Putin is still there, the more than 20 thousand sanctions did not bring Russia to their knees. NATO is bleeding dry of weaponry and losing mercenaries on a still rising scale.

Russia is advancing on the whole line of contact, the Black sea fleet is still intact and acting.

Every war comes with losses but the west and it's proxy Ukraine is not on the winning road as it seems obvious even to western observers.

GM's avatar

>President Putin is still there

Precisely, still there, executing Russia's controlled demolition.

>NATO is bleeding dry of weaponry

What sort of a braindead imbecile does not one have to be to seriously think this? The weaponry that NATO is "bleeding dry" of has absolutely no relevance to a Russia-NATO war. Russia's much smaller and weaker air force being attrited and its air defense being pushed back and bled dry of ammunition and launchers is what matters much more here.

>Russia is advancing on the whole line of contact

At a speed at which it will take a century to finish the war.

>the Black sea fleet is still intact and acting.

The BSF has been pushed out of Crimea while shipping to Odessa proceeds unimpeded, including of large quantities of weapons.

Frank Sailor's avatar

So Russia's air force is much smaller and weaker?

You sound like the Führer: and if the Russ says we have no air force, we have so many planes that the birds have to walk on the ground when our mighty air fleet is above Moscow :-)

Who said taking ground at large speed is a sign of victory? Nothing learned from the 'Blitzkrieg'?

You are full of assumptions and statements - nothing of substance just making claims that lack evidence.

Shipping to Odessa ending up in sunken ships and burning warehouses, if my information is correct.

What does it matter if the BSF is not present on Crimea as much as it used to be as long as it is doing the job?

GM's avatar

Yes, much smaller and weaker

It has 20% of the planes NATO does, a much smaller satellite constellation, weaker data link integration, and no forward deployment.

Empirical facts.

>Shipping to Odessa ending up in sunken ships and burning warehouses, if my information is correct.

It is not correct.

>What does it matter if the BSF is not present on Crimea as much as it used to be as long as it is doing the job?

Because it is not doing its job. It would be doing its job if all shipping to Odessa was fully controlled by it and if Russian shipping was safe. Neither of these are true.

Peter Joy's avatar

Well from what I can find online, the Russia air force is almost as big as the USAF: about 1,800 combat jets to 2,100. You can add another 630 for the US Navy and 350 for the USMC, counting those in a training role. The technological quality looks comparable, too - though Russian serviceability rates and ordnance supplies are probably higher.

You can add a paltry 200 or so Eurofighters for the RAF and a couple of dozen dodgy VTOL F-35s for the FAA that require so much maintenance, the RN can scarcely afford to fly them. Roughly similar strengths for France and Germany, Poland and Italy. European NATO? I don’t know, 1,500 fast jets total? The number they can get into the air and maintain in action for more than a week or so, however, will be a lot smaller.

On paper, you might just stagger up close to a 4:1 advantage IF you included all other US vassal states and close associates - Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel, Saudi Arabia (maybe 2,000 max, altogether)- but if you did that, you might as well chuck in China (another 2,700 combat jets, lots modern), North Korea (450-odd, but very dated) and Iran (300-odd, better but still mostly 1970s airframes) on Russia’s side of the ledger. It's the stuff of fantasy.

The USSA has most of the globe to cover and as is always the case with its demented wars of choice, the opposition is fighting on its home ground. What Russia has available to defend itself is more than equal to what the NATO Pact can practically attack it with. ISTM that Russia has more than enough conventional airpower (and everything else) to see off NATO Pact aggression in Eurasia.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

The usual GM BS. If Putin executes the programme Russian demolition why the last retaliation strikes are for? Are they even real? Perfect case of 6th columnist provocator pushing for WWIII. Exactly the intentions of the UK terrorist strategy. Which is miserably failing... 4 long summer months of programmed Russian demolition and Putin's betrayal ahead...

GM's avatar

See, you just demonstrated your catastrophic failure to understand what is happening.

What retaliation strikes?

They struck ammunition stores and weapon production facilities.

How is that "retaliation"?

There is in fact a major scandal here -- why was all that not blown up already?

And an even bigger scandal behind it -- why are all the other such objects not being touched (and there are a lot of them)?

Who issued the orders for them to be off limits? Because you can be certain that there are such orders -- the junior officers who plan these missions have all such objects on the target lists, no doubt about that. But they have to be approved by the higher ups too.

This is what controlled demolition looks like.

Start a war, don't fight it seriously, lose the war.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

I might fail to understand... I am not a member of the Russian HQ. Contrary to you who understand but mislead and lie in order to create a defeatish narrative for Russia as if any single success they achieve was worth it of even real. Its easy for anyone to see, what you are playing at and where you are writing from and for who.

Seeker's avatar

The issue is Russia is not losing. They are not fighting the conflict for your entertainment. They fight the conflict to achieve their own objectives, of which I am sure you don't have a clue.. Though you can continue creating your own reality in your own little world. Some of us just don't run on assumption and do understand there is a much bigger picture than the western bluff and bluster or Ukrainian PR. Wars are won by destroying the enemy both militarily and economically but you seem to be blind to the economic realities of what is unfolding globally.

Peter Joy's avatar

If Russia launches Ukrainian-style terrorist outrages in ‘retaliation’, it will make no difference to the Kiev junta: in fact, they’d be delighted. It’d only be more propaganda fodder for Kiev.

There may well be a case for ‘decapitation’ strikes against the junta and for warning blows against the UK, France, Germany and the Baltics, but these are fraught with unpredictable consequences and Putin and Lavrov are calm, conservative men. Disgusted as they no doubt are by MI6/ the Zelensky junta’s tactics, I think it suits them - both personally and diplomatically, considering the BRICS/ Global South - to maintain the moral high ground and leave terrorism to the West. They are playing a long, cool-headed game and they are winning. They have taken a few low blows, but it won’t affect the end result: soon enough, they are going to win by a brutal KO and they know it.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

The day Ukraine capitulates you will claim the end of Russia. Cut down on your Fentanyl.

JimG's avatar

The problem is that now Russia can kill every Ukrainian soldier and still lose the war. Frankly, I think we passed the the no return point and get ready to do without electricity, water, communications, transportation, food, or money. Our Dem and Neocon Congress persons want us dead while they hide in bunkers. That's Dem Democracy.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

Praising the west again? Tell me something. Do you even think Russia was right to fight this war?