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tonyE's avatar

You are being somewhat myopic.

To understand the current dynamics you must go back at least 300 years and understand how the British Empire was forged.

European colonialism was but a brutal footnote.... Russophobia has ruled the UK since the 1700s.

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Apr 21Edited

Ah yes, and Russia has never attacked anyone! At least according to Dugin, with his version of Russian history being "the defenders of Europe!"

Back in the real world, Russia was the threat to Europe, constantly attacking its neighbors. Russia also built an empire in the east, occupying countless peoples. When they didn't wage war they raided across the borders, into Finland and other countries, looting and burning islands in the Baltic Sea.

A list of actual historical wars, but I'm sure none of these constant attacks on other countries were Russian colonialism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

But some Soviet nostalgics translate their nostalgia into Russia nostalgia, and have to whitewash Russian history as well. Which is funny, since the Soviets were constantly attacking Russian history. But knowing that would take real historical knowledge.

You love to shout "British colonialism!" and "American colonialism!" in forums, but never a word about Russian colonialism. You don't WANT to know about it, so you never looked it up. It doesn't fit in.

tonyE's avatar

Wait a minute... the ad hominem attack is logically fallacious and uncalled for. You have no clue about me.

I'm neither Russian nor nostalgic.

I was born under an Iberian regime that hated the Soviets then moved to a nation -US- that was controlled by the UK money men and forced us all into Forever Wars.

Meaning I learned not to like the Soviets ( at the time, we made no difference between Russia and the USSR ).

However, I study history. And while "Russia" is definitely not innocent, in my opinion the UK is the root of most of modern (post 1700) global political ills.

The Soviets were, IMHO, a very special case... let's not get there.

Oh, I should note that the biggest threat to Europe, other than the UK and the periodic wars between nation states, were the Turks, not the Russians.

And that went back a long time.... remember the Battle Of Lepanto?

GM's avatar

>while the specifics about Maven may not have been known

Russian intel 100% knew.

abcdefg's avatar

Greased lightning!

Victor's avatar

Gosh! I didn't even get my hand out of my pocket!

grr's avatar

Lift yr game Victor....

Victor's avatar

Aye, me finger must be gettin' limpy.

Vivian Evans's avatar

Good grief - I hope you weren't doing a Zelensky all this time you claimed 1st!

Victor's avatar

I'm afraid to ask what that means....😐

thatguy's avatar

Something to do with a piano, I think.....

Opport Knocks's avatar

That seems to be more of a marketing video than an accurate documentation of operational military efficiencies. As with most US products there appears to be more sizzle than steak.

Robert's avatar

Yes, AI is a buzzword. Image recognition is important, but the technology predates the AI bubble. Ukraine is using a network of cheap listening devices, with sound recognition to detect Garen drones by their distinctive buzz.

thatguy's avatar

True. I don't think this statement from Simplicius is entirely valid from a logical standpoint, especially the second sentence:

"It appears to show the tracking of Russian assets in Ukraine from the very get-go of 2-24-2022. It confirms that the US and the West have been pouring all their resources, particularly of the AI-variety, into destroying Russia from the opening moments of the Ukrainian conflict."

The fact that the image is from 2-24-2022 does not at all confirm that the Maven AI software being used to analyze imagery has been used since then. The AI could use scanned imagery from 1943 just as easily, for example. The image date by itself doesn't prove anything about when the AI started being used.

E H's avatar

AI doesn't analyze images; it recognizes them based on programmed models. What is AI? Simply an ultra-fast supercomputer with more flaws than advantages. For example, it reads an article and extrapolates a situation. If the article is misleading, its result is null. Another example: in my scientific work, I use AI. Its drawback is that it analyzes based on academic texts and publications, whose industrial results are zero—no engineering, only lab-scale testing, no knowledge of real-world situations. AI is just an evolution of the loop.

gogis79's avatar

Transformer (backwards weights tracking in learning) affected whole neural networks tech, not just LLMs. So it's affected image recognition too. Granted, transformer is 2017, but it's quite recent and race is there. So, even if LLMs bubble is bust, neural networks are not.

E H's avatar

The only transformation developed in the West is that of a man transformed into a woman in heat. This, however, prevented the adult film industry from collapsing.

Robert Vernon's avatar

Well when I was on the car lot, I was advised: "...to sell the sizzle, not the steak..."

Probably works just as well with gullible arms/technology buyers who suffer from fear of missing out.

Kennewick Man's avatar

Mr. Magyar is a drug addicted Brussels financed perfect copy of Mr. Zelensky. He already received a 27 point demand from Brussels, the conditions laid out what he has to do in order to receive over $30 billion held back from the Orban government by the EU. He has also taken hundreds of millions of dollars of cash from the EU that was delivered to him by Ukraine agents during his campaign. He is very easy to blackmail and he is no position to say no on anything to Brussels.

Mr. Magyar received a Hungarian population very much tuned against helping the Ukraine war financially or in any other way. He will have a long way to go but in two or three years you will see him turning into a bloodthirsty Zelensky 2.0, Reloaded. Why? Because the EU will not have him any other way and they can blackmail the living life out of him. He is a slave of the EU.

‘He’s demanded for Ukraine to reopen the Druzhba pipeline’

It is all a theatre. He knows that the Hungarians – even if pushed into a minority position in the Parliament presently – will nail him to the gate of Budapest like they destroyed the Gyurcsany government in 2006. The nationalist, populist minority does not care who runs the government there. They will relentlessly hit the streets like in 1956 and in 2006.

Achernar's avatar

Incredible. This much text and you managed to write exactly zero truth.

grr's avatar

Enlighten us then.

Achernar's avatar

Alright, let’s get into it.

The claim that Péter Magyar is a drug addict is just cope. What’s actually known is that he was at a party where there may have been drugs, and there’s a recording of him sleeping with his ex-girlfriend. We know all of this from him, by the way.

Now, in 2025, I don’t think there are many people who haven’t been somewhere where drugs were present, and as for sleeping with an ex… whoever hasn’t can throw the first stone. (Not for nothing that the recording wasn’t released, because even this version just generated sympathy.)

The 27 points exist, and out of those, Fidesz and Orbán have already completed 6, 2 are under review, and another 1 or 2 are about to be submitted. You can nitpick the conditions, sure, but it’s clear that this is in the country’s interest. There’s about 10 billion euros on the line for meeting these, and only after that can the rest be accessed. Otherwise, we lose the 10 billion, and the financial situation already looks pretty bad.

The cash transport story is also fake. The Ukrainian population is converting money en masse into foreign currency and gold, and that’s what was being transported through Hungary. If you have even a basic understanding of how banking works, this isn’t some huge mystery.

We’ll see how much of a puppet he will or won’t be. EU-skepticism hasn’t disappeared, and his popularity would drop pretty fast if he fully aligned with them. But unfortunately, diplomacy involves trade-offs, and under Orbán the country became quite isolated, which contributed to people getting fed up.

Support for Ukraine is also a trade-off. I’m fine with us not contributing. There’s no need to become Russia’s dog, but it’s not really our fight either. I don’t see a situation where he turns into Zelenskyy. That’s just a claim.

This just came in, but he did actually call on Zelenskyy to reopen the pipeline or face a blockade. Is it theater? We’ll see. But I assume here too people prefer to play the victim and immediately jump to the worst-case scenario.

Bringing up 1956 and 2006 is interesting. The 1956 rebels were largely reform communists, and Imre Nagy himself was a communist with a secret police background. I’m not going to fully explain 1956 because we’d be here all day.

As for 2006 and Gyurcsány, it’s funny because Orbán is currently the one at risk of becoming a lolcow, and if he tries to sabotage the country’s recovery, that could actually happen. And 2006 is a much more complex story than I have time to get into.

Seriously, guys. I also have my reservations about Péter Magyar, but there’s no need to make things up. He’s very opportunistic, which can be both good and bad. We’ll see. Try not to jump straight to the worst-case scenario.

The government hasn’t even been formed yet. We know of 7 ministers so far, 4 of whom previously served in Fidesz governments, and the defense minister was a former Chief of General Staff (and based on people I know, he’s considered a much more capable figure than the current one).

Kennewick Man's avatar

‘What’s actually known is that he was at a party where there may have been drugs, and there’s a recording of him sleeping with his ex-girlfriend. We know all of this from him, by the way.’

So you are searching for info on a freaking drug addict about ‘himself’? Brilliant police work. The paper printed the actual image with the table that was covered with drugs for all to use and that was only one of those parties. https://magyarnemzet.hu/

‘The cash transport story is also fake. The Ukrainian population is converting money en masse into foreign currency and gold, and that’s what was being transported through Hungary. If you have even a basic understanding of how banking works, this isn’t some huge mystery.’

That is what was transported on and on to Magyar and his Tisza Party. They would have never built a party in two years without constant infusion of cash and gold. This five minute long video will show you the arrested Ukraine security agens who were arrested in Hungary with close to a $100 million shipment and the two vans grabbed were way off the shortest road to Kiev, Ukraine. Additional money transfers also discussed. Tisza Party was getting 5million Euro per week on the long run from Ukraine. Plus, sometimes a lot more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqbuMevs_w8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRiodyRDL_U

Achernar's avatar

You’re making a few extremely strong claims, but you also know there’s no real certainty here.

What is certain is that they were set up. That in itself is already quite incriminating, but not for Péter Magyar.

There was a drug test he passed cleanly. You’ll probably say it was a fast-acting substance anyway.

The point is that calling him a drug addict is just an allegation that you cannot prove.

The cash transport case was intercepted on the M0 ring road. I don’t know which route from Vienna to Ukraine would be shorter, but this doesn’t rule it out at all.

And no one has been able to prove that the Tisza Party received 5 million euros per week. Trust me, the campaign could have been run on much less, and there were quite a few supporters, including local billionaires.

You can debate who was verbally supporting them, of course. That’s obviously better for Zelensky and the EU.

But then we should also talk about the level of corruption under Orbán and Fidesz, or the pedophile scandals. People didn’t just wake up one day and start believing the EU for no reason.

Gnuneo's avatar

"OMFG! - he's used drugs zomgz!!!"

Some of you people are literally too embarrassing for words to properly express.

Sure, just come straight out and say you have the maturity of a infant, the adventurism of a turtle, the rebelliousness of a house-slave, and the pointy-fingers of a Karen.

That you then expect to be taken seriously as an adult is what is absolutely shocking.

Although few other adults will so regard you, because most are NOT house-slaves, and like all intelligent animals, will experiment of their own volition.

Also, trying something once or a few times, doesn't automatically make you an "addict", any more than having a few glasses of wine makes you an alcoholic... something usually only small children need explaining.

I'm not a big fan of this guy, and I'm not in favour of being addicted to drugs, but I'm even less positively predisposed to small-brained retarded tight-arsed Karens who regard themselves as "superior" because they have never lived, and like to suck the enjoyment of life out of others too.

Shouldn't you be guarding a disabled parking spot?

occamsrazorback22's avatar

Touche...get out the long knives and take no prisoners.

grr's avatar

Thanks for that.

BTW are you Hungarian?

Achernar's avatar

Yep, born and bred.

Kennewick Man's avatar

There are several heavy statements there. Since I was watching very-very closely the Hungarian and Central European situation for many years maybe you just want to challenge me on some issues.

This is the main populist/nationalist newspaper in Budapest. Many articles are already translated there into English but since you are so well informed you likely already translated some for yourself with google. I did. https://magyarnemzet.hu/ And of course there are similar papers in every Central European country and I happen to be familiar with them. Are you?

Achernar's avatar

I live here in Hungary (I was born here).

I’m very familiar with Magyar Nemzet, but right now it’s clearly part of the Fidesz-aligned media landscape, which matters in terms of the narrative it pushes. Yes, there are opposition outlets too, but you won’t get the full picture from any of them. And I’m not even claiming that I have it either.

Kennewick Man's avatar

From: ‘Incredible. This much text and you managed to write exactly zero truth.’

To: ‘Yes, there are opposition outlets too, but you won’t get the full picture from any of them. And I’m not even claiming that I have it either.'

Oooops, it seems that you are changing the tone of conversation.

Achernar's avatar

We don’t even have a new government yet, and even after that I’m not going to claim that I possess all the knowledge.

What I am saying is that you’re far too confident for someone talking about these things from abroad, while I actually live in it.

Kennewick Man's avatar

My best guess is that you are a woke leftist Hungarian under 35 years of age and that gives you an excellent chance to be shipped to Ukraine in an EU uniform by Peter Magyar in a few years. Try to have a safe trip please. In case the Russians take you as prisoner I will tell them to send you to Vorkuta. They have fantastic coal mines there, just North of the Arctic Circle, you will love it there.

Charles Langlois's avatar

"Oooops, it seems that you are changing the tone of conversation."

That you imply that that is somehow a bad thing says all anyone needs to know about you.

Denis's avatar

"Russian elites are increasingly discussing the possibility of real action against Baltic states."

How about discussing the possibility of real action against Ukraine first?

" It appears to show the tracking of Russian assets in Ukraine from the very get-go of 2-24-2022. It confirms that the US and the West have been pouring all their resources, particularly of the AI-variety, into destroying Russia from the opening moments of the Ukrainian conflict."

Well, if Russia had defeated Ukraine, it wouldn't have to worry about the West pouring all its resources into Ukraine.

Ukraine has bombed and destroyed another massive Russian oil refinery. (on X)

Oh well, who's counting?

It doesn't matter if Europe isn't ready for war yet, what matters is recognizing that Europe is serious about preparing for war. All the signs are there. What's Russia going to do? Wait until the last minute to assemble an unprepared ragtag army and march them into a war zone parade style without softening enemy defences so they can hastily retreat, leaving equipment behind. Fooled again. 😂Most of Russia's problems stem from not controlling Ukraine in the first place.

NiggleS's avatar

The Baltics are vastly smaller than Ukraine, and eliminating their potential threat drastically reduces Ukrainian drone overflight possibilities and takes them off the NATO roster.

It's a threefer deal.

Denis's avatar

Control Ukraine, and you don't have to worry about Ukrainian drone overflights.

Most of Russia's problems stem from not controlling Ukraine in the first place.

NiggleS's avatar

That still leaves the Baltics as a source of NATO trouble.

As I said, it's a three for one deal taking them off the table, your suggestion is a no go, as controlling Ukraine is not on the Russian agenda, being a profoundly negative option.

Denis's avatar

Well, if Russia can't defeat Ukraine, they should have stayed home and not invaded Ukraine and make itself look so silly. If Russia attacks the Baltics, NATO will give Ukraine the reinforcements it desperately needs. Then what's Russia going to do? Russia could have defeated Ukraine with the right plan. Russia put itself in a less-than-ideal situation. Make a peace deal, go home and call it a day. This conflict has lasted too long, and Ukraine will hold, live to fight again, but next time backed by NATO.

abcdefg's avatar

"next time backed by NATO."

Breaking news: NATO is backing Ukraine. You really are flogging a dead horse, Denis.

Denis's avatar

More precisely, European boots on the ground, abc.

You know very well what I meant.

Cotra's avatar

You are right. Russia cannot even make a peace deal. The West will never stop, no matter the peace deal. Russia shall be destroyed and plundered, they cannot stop that as not only the Russian elite but also the most of the population identify themselves with the west and western culture. Russians have lesser value complex, they still adore consumption.

The west is aggressive, they just attack, they have no internal withholding or moral limits.

Putin is a frightened old man.

GM's avatar

>Russia cannot even make a peace deal.

The only option to avoid the war was Crimean scenario but for the whole of Ukraine, i.e. Russia takes over the territory in its entirery, all the way to Uzhogord, then there is nothing left to launch a counterattack from and the West is presented with a finished fact.

The best time to implement it was in 2014. Putin refused to do it, then refused to do what is necessary to make it happen in 2022 too, and with Istanbul and the goodwill gestures the window of opportunity was completely closed.

GM's avatar
Apr 21Edited

>Well, if Russia can't defeat Ukraine, they should have stayed home and not invaded Ukraine and make itself look so silly

Wasn't an option. The Ukro-NATO-Nazis were just about to attack and there have long been serious rumors that they did not intend to stop at the official internatioanl border between the L/DNR and Russia.

Although in retrospect, given what has happened in the last four years, it was better for that scenario to unfold and for the Kremlin to be forced to take extreme measures immediately than for the Russian frog to be boiled the way it was in the real timeline

Mark Chapman's avatar

It's pretty hard to guard against attacks which might be coming from Ukraine, or might be coming from the apartment balcony of some Russian-speaking Ukrainian partisans a mile or two away from the target and in direct line of sight to it. When the attacks do come from Ukraine, they might be routed through Baltic airspace, which it seems the Baltic republics are allowing Ukraine to use. I suppose you could just say, gloves off; no more Mr. Nice Guy, a blow the living bejesus out of everyone. But it seems to me that's what Russia is trying to avoid. If anyone had any sense, they'd listen: bear in mind that the entire war could have been avoided if the west had seriously considered Russia's pre-hostilities demands. NOW the west, or at least the United States is prepared to stipulate those demands are a whole lot more reasonable than the destruction ignoring them unleashed.

GM's avatar

What does "eliminating their potential" mean?

Haven't we learned anything from Ukraine?

Putin went in with such a goal but while balking at the obvious conclusion that doing so absolutely requires physical control over the whole territory and its permanent annexation. Something obvious to anyone with a brain from the very start.

Because if you start a war against people with a kamikaze mindset with the idea that you can make a deal with them and everything will be peace and happiness ever war, all you will get is those people arming up to the teeth and shooting at you 24/7 from the platform you have allowed them to have. Something else obvious to anyone with a brain from the very start.

Well, it is no different with the Baltics.

The only way you are going to eliminate the threat from there is if you end their existence permanently and occupy the territory. If you just do some token strikes what you will get is another platform for open large-scale attacks on your territory.

Do they understand that in the Kremlin? Some people surely do, but the guy at the top...

Alyosha's avatar

You can control a country without completely annexing it. US built an empire like that.

Galician poison chalice is unnecessary. Should cause problems somewhere else.

GM's avatar

>Galician poison chalice

Who said anything about any Galicians remaining on the territory?

Alyosha's avatar

Waste of resources, time and energy.

Cotra's avatar

That is possible because even Arabs in Iraq dream American dreams. The American culture is superior for all human populations as humans are mainly stupid. That is why people everywhere watch their films.

Alyosha's avatar

It is not only possible, it is happening.

Stupid middle class people, right? Like you?

Denis's avatar

GM, Russia would need to defeat Ukraine before attacking the Baltics. Russia is having a hard enough time with Ukraine, let alone opening another front, right?

GM's avatar
Apr 21Edited

Why is Russia having a hard time with Ukraine though?

Because:

1) The Ukrainian rear is untouched and right now untouchable

2) Even within Ukraine the Russian army operates under absurd restrictions regarding what can and can't be hit. Basically there is a veto on any kind of strikes that can actually help win the war.

It's not because Russia lack the capability of dealing with Ukraine.

Now if a war starts with the Baltics, the following considerations enter the picture:

1) The Baltics themselves are small and weak

2) They are also much easier to isolate -- naval blockade plus the Suwalki gap

3) Most important -- a war with the Baltics means war with the whole of Europe. Which in turn means the absurd restrictions will have to be dropped and the Ukrainian untouchable rear, which is Europe, will have to be hit. There will be no other choice.

So a war with the Baltics, by making this a pan-European war, can in principle solve the whole problem.

But only if the Kremlin does not do grand treason once again. Which is still an open question.

Surferket's avatar

Funny how "Pootin is to be blamed" comments are much more accepted here than back in MOB. I've held that position since the start of the slo-mo and the stupid fighting a war with one arm one leg crippled and one eye blinded. Now NATO had the time to get their acts together and erected a really serious drone wall that's number One in making Russian widows. We know who gave them that much time.

Surferket's avatar

And I get told it's Pootin's a 10D grandchestmaster!

GM's avatar
Apr 21Edited

At no point in the war has Russia enjoyed greater military-technical superiority than in the beginning.

And that is how it usually goes if neither side is isolated strategically -- the more protracted the war, the more opportunity the weaker side gets to even out the playing field.

So it was vital for the war to be finished quickly. But...

P.S. If Iran is not soon finished off (or betrayed from within, which is the greatest fear), and let's pray that does not happen, you will see the same effect. At some point Iran will offically unveil both nukes and ICBMs, evening out the playing field, and forcing the US to back off.

Cotra's avatar

Now with their drone forces, Ukraine is even stronger.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Now even Simplicius writes that Putin position seems to be undermined because the mounting threats against Russia and inabilty to act. To let Baltikum and Finland host routes for ukrainian drones attacking industrial areas around St Petersburg cant go on forever.

Rybar is more open about the unfolding debacle with the ”SMO”.

And if Maven system already was in place in february 2022, then we can be sure that Russia was lured into a trap.

Denis's avatar

If what we have seen so far is the best Russia can do against Ukraine, it would be best to make a peace deal asap and give the country a chance to regroup and get its act together. Those Kremlin oligarchs need to be replaced and get the best leadership possible. Something is not right in Russia, Mikey. The country needs change, big time.

Alyosha's avatar

It is an SMO, Dennis.

Denis's avatar

It was an SMO, Aly. But now, it's a war.

Alyosha's avatar

Technically an SMO, it has implications.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Practically a War.

Technically a War.

Linguistic an SMO.

Billy C's avatar

It is both; Russia is engaging in an SMO, Ukraine (The West) is fighting a war.

Denis's avatar

Well said, mate.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Yes. And some sort of leadership change will happen. Sadly people in the West think what comes after Putin must be better. Putin was civilized which partly is the reason why he couldnt close the Ukraine affair. The next one will be like Ivan the Terrible.

GM's avatar

>If what we have seen so far is the best Russia can do against Ukraine, it would be best to make a peace deal asap and give the country a chance to regroup and get its act together.

Russia still has the military-technical capacity to end this with total victory on a time scale of 4-6 months. It used to be much less than that, but the more time Ukraine was given to be pumped with weapons, the longer that timeline extends.

The key words being "still".

Once Poland announces it has MRBMs with nukes on them, the window of opportunity will have closed.

abcdefg's avatar

We all know Russia was lured into a trap in 22, as were the Europeans. It seems in hindsight that Russia knew it was a trap, the Europeans definitely not.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Agree. European leaders and the EU swamp was caught in this sinister plan.

US Deep state, UK and NATO-leaders all knew the game.

GM's avatar

>Rybar is more open about the unfolding debacle with the ”SMO”.

Rybar has been gritting his teeth for four yeats and enduring, and especially after the mil-bloggers were invited to the Kremlin for a series of "friendly talks" a few years ago in the aftermath of the Prigozhin affair. But what he really thinks still seeps through in his words. And it's really obvious when he was on video with DD, you can control yourself much better in writing than you do speaking live.

GM's avatar

>And if Maven system already was in place in february 2022, then we can be sure that Russia was lured into a trap.

That much has been obvious from the start, and I have been saying it here for years now -- this is a well executed multi-decadal plan to destroy Russia.

And you can be sure the Russian military knew very well about Maven and other such systems.

You can also be sure that if the Russian military knew that, they also knew they had to knock Ukraine out ASAP, just as we have been saying here.

That puts the Kremlin's actions in a perspective, doesn't it?

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Very plausible reasoning but goes against my logic (that Kremlin is sort of high-treasoners hand in hand with some Western cabal).

I think US/UK/Deep State has pushed thei agenda year by year, decade by decade. It was obvious in Yugoslavia.

I think Kremlin has seen themselves as to weak to counter all of this in an effective way. They resorted to dance and sting here and there and holding to what they assumed they could defend in a proper way.

Up to Maidan they did o lousy job. Crimea was a job that had to be done, but they left Donbass to be destroyed. And as you often say, the Oligarchs and Kremlin people was more concerned about their offshore accounts and luxury resorts than the long-term concequences.

Putin did put up a defense in Syria against the US/Israeli proxies but nothing to secure any respect for Russia.

The game up to 2022 I followed very closely. US sanctioned and delayed Nordstream 2 year after year. The Deep State sabotaged Trump during 2016-2019, effectively blocking any detente. DeepState materialized 10 million votes in 2020 that has never been seen again. And with Biden it was green light for next step.

Kremlin responded in 2022 in the way they could. And it was a bummer. Russia was more afraid than US/NATO and has since then always waited for the opposing side to escalate instead of using all means to enforce their own goals (whatever they are now).

The War itself can not be controlled or steered the way the participants want. It is always a death match or inconclusive (if both sides back off).

It is true that Kremlin believed in the words of Wests rule based order, diplomacy and common sense (as if they dont understand the meaning of Obamas talks of Exceptionalism).

Four years of nilly-willying an SMOhas damaged Russia far more than the Jeltsin years. I think Putin will go down.

Alyosha's avatar

"I think Kremlin has seen themselves as to weak to counter all of this in an effective way. "

It is not that they considered themselves weak, they were on the verge of disintegration when Putin took over. Yugoslavia happened in April 1999, 2nd Chechen War started in August, IIRC.

So utter shitshow of a country, beginning of a 10 years war, designed to balkanize the country, sanctions, whatnot.

But people all behave as if everything was fine and dandy and if something did not happen it was just because, and this is the only simplified explanation allowed, because of Putin traitor something.

"Four years of nilly-willying an SMOhas damaged Russia far more than the Jeltsin years. I think Putin will go down."

They climbed to fourth place in PPP GDP per capita. Facts be damned.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Hi Alexis. Yes, after the Yeltsin years Russia was on the verge of disintegration. So Kremlin was weak indeed. Putin did an amazing lift for Russia and their people in general. But he, and the rest of Kremlin realized they couldnt effectively counter the NATO expansion and up to Maidan and the Crimean take-over they simply couldnt resist. From there it was a Sisofys job with sanctions, banning of Russian sports and all sorts of harassment including the Nordstream 2. Could Kremlin have done a better job? Probably but even in hindsight no one has a good answer. And that goes for the SMO also - could Russia done it otherwise? I doubt but it seems that certain threats was overlooked and you could clearly see arrogance in their communication regarding the SMO. I feel soryy for Russia and Ukraine, two marvelous countries, fighting each other to exhaustion.

Surferket's avatar

It looks more like NATO personnel flying the drones from the Baltics directly. Everything is deniable.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

If they do its an act of War but since Kremlin insists on their SMO they cant respond?

Estonia is complaining that Zelensky/Ukraine is agitating (and what else?) to trigger an article 5. So we are closer now.

abcdefg's avatar

Belarus are reportedly building fortified artillery positions on the border with Ukraine. Lukashenko is making plenty of noise. Everybody seems to be positioning for escalation.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Yes. Zelensky has threatened Lukashenko with a ”Maduro” treatment so hold on - it will be a ride.

abcdefg's avatar

"Most of Russia's problems stem from not controlling Ukraine in the first place."

Nice gaslighting. Here I was thinking the US was Russians biggest problem. It seems Russia are their own worst enemy :S

Denis's avatar

Well, Alphabet, if you can't face the truth based on 5 years of facts, don't play the game. It looks like you ran out of time a few years ago and are looking for a patsy. Don't blame the messenger, huh?

Cotra's avatar

Russia cannot do anything, Russia is very weak now.

Mark Chapman's avatar

Here we go - another instalment of 'Russia needs to get tough with Ukraine', with the greenish Formaldehyde-reeking corpse of Ukraine hovering hopefully in the background. We could still win, guys!

Europe can be as serious as it likes about 'preparing for war', although I would just point out that so far its seriousness is confined to talking about it. If there truly is a German about-face, which remains to be seen, they will have to overcome the same problems that pushed it to this ostensible 'reset', and the last time I saw an attempt to make a problem go away by talking like it didn't exist, it did not work. Nor any time before that. Unless Germany plans to produce waxed-cardboard flat-pack some-assembly-required tanks like the drones Australia made for Ukraine, manufacturing is still going to be a voracious gobbler of energy. Doesn't make a lot of difference if you're building SUV's or APC's, making stuff out of steel is costly. Nobody has yet figured out how to run a manufacturing-and-fabrication economy on wind and solar power, or discovered some kind of kryptonite that is more energy-dense than hydrocarbons. Hydrocarbons cost a great deal more now than they did when Europe still had a manufacturing economy, and nothing in the news suggests we will get back to 2012 oil prices in the foreseeable future.

The level of assistance Europe has already provided to Ukraine is bankrupting Europe. It does not have the money for ambitious re-armament. If it did, who's going to operate all this esoteric tech? Military recruiting in Europe has never seen such marked public disinterest in military service. According to 2024's " “Next Generation Security: A Study on How Young Europeans Perceive the Defense Sector”, 49% of young Western Europeans believed their country will be directly involved in an armed conflict within the next ten years. However, if their country or another European nation were to come under military attack, only about a third of them would volunteer to help defend it. 90% of young Europeans questioned could not name a single private defense company. Hardly an encouraging environment in which to pivot the country's manufacturing - such as remains of it - to arms manufacturing.

https://www.ie.edu/cgc/news-and-events/news/new-report-reveals-significant-disconnection-between-the-youth-and-the-defense-sector/

kaso's avatar

Do not believe a word out of Magyar. He's a globalist puppet. Watch what he'll do in the next few months.

ann watson's avatar

he's so similar to Macron. A Boy Toy.

Edgar Brenninkmeyer's avatar

If you call Magyar a Boy Toy, I'd like to propose The Ken Doll from Budapest. Variation on the same theme ;-)

mary-lou's avatar

can't wait (sarc.). also Soros, Jr was quick to congratulate Magyar, being "...among the many prominent figures in the international political and business world to share their excitement about [...] Magyar’s election victory [...] Soros on X: ‘The people of Hungary have taken back their country! A resounding rejection of entrenched corruption and foreign interference'.... - https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/elon-musk-soros-hungary/

VHMan's avatar

Henry II on Soros: “Who will rid me of this tiresome priest!”

Gisela's avatar

Isn't that an insult to Thomas of Becket?😄

Wayne Bonin's avatar

"They aim to redirect as much of the “non-defense sector” toward defense supply chains as possible, in essence converting their civilian manufacturing prowess toward war production."

If the people can't afford bread, "let them eat bombs"

Freddy10's avatar

Yes, it is very interesting. Let's see whether it pays off. Its not the first time Germany has done this. The last time was in the early 30's, straight after the great depression, and it was very successful...

grr's avatar

....until it wasn't.

abcdefg's avatar

Emanuel Todd makes the point that the French will be extremely worried with German militarization. This will have unforseen consequences.

Victor's avatar

'Unforeseen'? A rearmament campaign led by a nazi? Really?

Kassandra's avatar

Well, there are serious differences. For example, he congratulated the Israel leader for doing the dirty work for us (at that times, only Gaza). And he is not proposing Madagaskar, but quietly accepting Patagonia.

Alyosha's avatar

They are all fine with each other.

"In 1952 Abba Achimeir wrote that in the early 1930s, the Revisionist movement did not achieve one of its main objectives: preventing

the association of fascism and anti-Semitism."

If only they managed to prevent the association.

mary-lou's avatar

not only the French. also the invention of the Euro was largely a Bundesbank take-over.

Tell's avatar

So flooding Germany with anti-German non-White immigrants and forcing the German people to pay for south Europeans and East Europeans every year, is REALLY just a nationalist German plan!

Dumb American blabbering once again.

Tell's avatar

Um, why? Because your worldview comes from WWII stories? Maybe then the French would also be "extremely worried" by British militarization, because hey, Britain and France were at war in the past. But of course, Hollywood doesn't make as many movies about that for you to watch.

E H's avatar

France is only worried about one thing: that Germany will rearm with non-French equipment. Otherwise, it will always be the best collaborator of the Fourth Reich and will send another Charlemagne division into the Russian meat grinder in Ukraine.

mary-lou's avatar

that was Big Business through investments from UK, US companies (IBM; Ford, et. al) and a number of Big Banks, Germany providing abundant human capital, it seems. the intensive waves of foreign migrants might serve a similar sinister purpose.

Tell's avatar

I was just waiting for some ignoramus to go "but naaaziss!!" when today's Germany is completely leftist, controlled by pro-immigration, pro-homosexual, pro-feminist politicians and media who prosecute people for simply pointing out immigrant rapist crimes.

Maybe dumb Americans like you should just shut the fuck up about other countries.

strasser's avatar

You don't have the slightest clou about what the political terms 'left' and 'right' actually mean. A hint: being pro-immigration, pro-homosexual, pro-feminist is neither 'left' nor 'right'.

Maybe you should check your sources (if you are literate after all) to avoid posting such nonsense. Germany is definitely in no way 'left' but rather straight on its way to an anti-social, anti-labour, pro-corporate and militaristic fascist dictatorship. Anybody who claims otherwise does not know what he is talking about and just not to be taken seriously.

CPL Antero Rokka's avatar

As a former US defense plant tool and gauge maker for space weapons, I ask: "Where will Germany find the super-skilled workers to do these very delicate and demanding defense jobs? "Today's workers? I've seen "new hires" work for two weeks and then not show up, saying they were "stressed out" by the complexity of the tasks. Worse--look at the language, tradition, and heritage gap with Germany's current population. Ever seen a cannon tube blueprint in German, Turkic, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Syrian, Afghan, and Iraqi languages? How are these masses of "cultural enrichments" going to cooperate in a factory? "Was ist los?"

Chevrus's avatar

But it looked so good on paper

Freddy10's avatar

I am looking for machinists in Germany to create some precision equipment for a project I am working on, with little success. But I'm sure China can help me and then steal all my designs? It certainly isn't the same Germany, but perhaps they realise this?

Martin Anantharaman's avatar

Who needs people, anyway? We'll soon get renewal, maybe starting with glorifying suicidial special-forces for miscg engineered crises - and then Maven will do it pretty much like in Logan's run (set to a renewal-age where the net profit starts declining) - and when they have no more usable productive output they'll be renewed at age 0 - and that's it.

E H's avatar

Lagarde, the ECB's queen, mentions the food and fuel rationing vouchers coming soon to the EU. Yes, we can rearm.

ericbj's avatar

Government mismanagement of foreign policy and energy policy provokes a catastrophic economic recession.

So the Government gives the citizens' wealth to the armaments industry, a transfer of wealth that benefits their rentier-capitalist shareholders.

The benefit to the citizens? None whatsoever. Except the false claim it improves their security. While doing the exact opposite by inciting the power-holding elites to increasingly war-like postures. Provoking responses that call for yet further re-armament. A vicious circle. Or perhaps a death spiral?

If the economy needed an injection of cash, pending dealing with fundamental causes, why not subsidise the production of what can be of direct benefit to the population? Such as mass transport systems, non-polluting energy generation, etc.

Hussein Hopper's avatar

More encouraging news of the irreversible decline of the white trash cultures of western Europe and the US.

And the rise of real white culture in Eastern Europe and Russia. The land of the Aryans is also inflicting unparalleled defeat and humiliation on the trailer trash of the US and their Zio brain parasites.

More popcorn please.

ann watson's avatar

the population of Israel is eastern european

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Thats a plus for the real Eastern Europeans.

Yes the rather small number of impostors didn’t feel comfortable there (for some reason) , so they made up a story about being descended from a tribe of people who briefly had a small parcel of land there 2500 years ago and on that basis moved there very unfortunately for the existing population.

Tell's avatar

No it isn't. Don't give us that dumb fantasy by American religious amateurs again: "ACKSHUALLY they are not the REAL Israelis, I mean Israelites, from my precious Bible!"

You have zero proof for the American fantasy that the Israelis would be Khazars from Eastern Europe. A fantasy always coupled with the nonsense about Whites being "the twelve lost tribes of Israel!", because this BS comes from the "Christian Identity" nuts.

Funnily, "Christian Identity" comes from an earlier British Identitarian version, which said that only the English were the "twelve lost tribes of Israel." When some of them went to the U.S. to spread that fantasy, they ran into the problem that not everyone was English. So they repackaged is as "Christian Identitarian" and claimed that ALL Whites were the twelve lost tribes of Israel. An even dumber claim, but a handful of Americans want to believe it.

So you infest forums claiming to be the "real Israelites" and pretending that the Jews in Israel are not the biblical Jews at all. With zero proof. Zero historical proof. Zero biological proof.

The route of Jews through history is very well documented, and neither they nor ANYONE ELSE claims they are not the Jews in their beloved Hebrew Bible, aka the old testament.

But apparently a few Americans who don't want to read about any real history, archeology or biology, have found out the truth! While no one else has!

ann watson's avatar

Netanyahu's real name is Milekowsky and the other guys are from Romania and Ukraine - I know an Israeli who told me 1/3 of the population is from Ukraine and there more Russians than Ukrainians. Ashkenazi means European ( German ) Jew. And in Israel its a class system with the Ashkenazis at the top. Do some reading of book. Shlomo Sand - by this time millions of others. Leo Zagami too Tell. They don't even allow DNA testing in Israel. The twelve lost tribes are probably the Caananites. and the semites . I wasn't even involving the bible That was you

Freddy10's avatar

"... all of Germany’s economic growth was being pegged to militarization. Now WSJ reports that Germany is “rewiring” its manufacturing base purely into weapons production, as every other industry blows out"

Well, well, well, this certainly seems interesting.

I wonder, when was the last time Germany did something like this?

Not that it is a bad thing, of course. To revitalize industry after it was scourged by deindustrialization, financialization, and globalism requires a lot of government support, and what better government support is there for rebuilding a decimated industry than military spending?

It is a something that the US would do well to take note of, especially if Trump is serious about making America great again.

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Freddy10's avatar

"Just about anything. Both the US and Germany are now moving as quickly as possible to remove the last shreds of actually productive industry from their countries, at the end of which process they think they'll be ready to rob the world blind, but they won't be ready to create anything useful - a negative multiplier effect. Meanwhile, China grows rich and vastly more powerful doing the exact opposite."

100%, that's exactly my point, but in all seriousness nobody can argue that the scientific, engineering, and infrastructure investment for rebuilding the industrial base required for military R&D isn't leagues above that of anything civil infrastructure.

edit: Well, perhaps space travel.

*tongue in cheek* This was all done before, and it worked out great!

Victor's avatar

How about redirecting that money into infrastructure, schools, hospitals, technology, etc - giving people jobs that contribute to the good of society as opposed to making possible another series of war and destruction? Such a waste!

Freddy10's avatar

100%, see comment above.

Trust the Germans to follow the old equations of industrial prosperity.

Montefrío the Curious's avatar

I usually like to read all the comments before making one, so thank you for having made the comment I was considering if there were no previous comments to this effect. The "good of society", i.e. any organized polis, is (or should be) always the primary purpose of a government at every level.

GM's avatar

>I wonder, when was the last time Germany did something like this?

Sixty years since the Kremlin started selling oil and gas to Germany.

Sixty years of Russian delusion that if only they make non-stop unilateral concession and completely prostrate themselves, give up their natural resources for pennies on the dollar, and refuse to defend their national interests, the Europeans will start to like Russia and it will be all peace happiness ever after.

What did that bring?

And when is a leader going to emerge who will realize that the only way to deal with this threat is the way the slave raiders in the southern steppes were dealt with two centuries ago?

Jullianne's avatar

Lurid public US support, right on the verge of voting, did for Orban. The king is dead. Long live the King!

As for Russia, Iran has shown the way, and the Russian people are no longer willing to accommodate Putin's careful crafting of 'non aggression aggression'. Time for fireworks, and the Baltic 'nations' (sic) are about to discover what being a mouthy brat gets you. A big fat punch in the face.

As for the relative economic weights of Russia versus Western europe, there is the small unaddressed matter of available hard resources in a drive for manufacturing, peace or war time. It still takes stuff to build stuff- not to mention fuel! You are supposed to come out of a war economically broken, not go into one in that state.

grr's avatar

"You are supposed to come out of a war economically broken, not go into one in that state."

Great comment. And Russia will both enter and exit the next big war economically sound.

Victor's avatar

Europe has the problem they have always had - lack of raw resources and energy. They have to obtain that elsewhere. It was not a huge problem when they had imperialist armies drawing those resources from the colonies, but today is a vastly different world - no more colonies - only reality.

Steghorn21's avatar

With another more recent problem added on: a population whose morale has been sapped by Wokeness and PC.

Jullianne's avatar

It is difficult to behold your average instagram poser and find any connect with the concept of morale, which supposes an underlying resilience to hardship that might be undermined. What resilience, eh? We have the marsh-mallow generation, and soon it is going to be toast.

Justin Ungaro's avatar

And plenty of resources, energy, rare earth plus technology and, of course, nukes -- all without colonies.

But patience in Moscow is said to be wearing thin, if not with Putin then someone else close around him.

Meanwhile, the growing anti-Russia saber rattling by the EU and NATO sans US sounds hollow, scarecly more than the noise of a paper tiger. The once prosperous West is in the midst of a deindustrialization and on the precipice of recession.

How much more grotesque can it get: a screlotic EU, in a final act of bravado and stupidity, wants to completely ban the cheap Russian energy (that fueled its prosperity for decades, is like the classic case of cutting its collective nose to spite its face.

Clearly an advanced state of Russia Derangement Syndrome.

And I haven't factored in the still unfolding impact on the world economy of the Israel-induced US attack on Iran and the ensuing closure/blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, a choke point of the world economy.

Chevrus's avatar

Not only that, the ones they would exploit have back away slowly and armed to the teeth….

Jullianne's avatar

Iran is an interesting case, never economically broken by the US (not for want of trying) and now about to lead the push to break the entire western hegemonic economy. And it has barely started..... there is so much more to come if the US does not summarily back off now while it can.

frankly's avatar

Yeah how exciting, next you can lecture us on how viable nuclear war has become.

Jullianne's avatar

No Frankly, The nuclear option is further away than it has ever been, at least in my lecture theatre.

John Galtsky's avatar

I wish that was the case, but the US and Israel's actions in Iran (and Israel's other actions for years) bring the nuclear option closer.

It looks like I was wrong in my belief that Iran certainly had at least a deterrent nuclear arsenal in their pocket. Iran has been capable of building nuclear weapons, at least a few, for nearly 30 years. It seemed to me incomprehensible that given the many US and Israeli threats to destroy Iran that Iran would *not* have built at least a few nukes, just in case.

It turns out Iran's faith was deeper than I thought, and that the fatwah against nukes was not something they were willing to discard. They also had the pragmatic availability of a geopolitical weapon that in very many ways is stronger than a handful of nukes: their control of the Strait of Hormuz.

Iran's control over the Strait may have cost the Western world a trillion dollars already. But setting off a few nukes in Israel would not have had the same effect and, even worse, it would have led to the immediate and total incineration of all of Iran, a true extinction event.

So in retrospect my belief that Iran had a deterrent nuclear arsenal in its pocket was not the unqualified logical certainty I thought it was.

In fact, it could be that Iran does already have a few nukes, but it has not used them because of the certainty of total annihilation if it does use them. It could be they do not have any prepositioned in the US, or that they are unwilling to use what for them would be a final, extreme, revenge weapon to dissuade the level of bombing that the US and Israel have undertaken. It could be they feel their control over the Strait of Hormuz is a better response, one that leaves Iran alive and which over time will allow them to recover from the US/Israeli attack.

Be that as it may, one of the key conclusions many countries are reaching from the current conflict is that if you are not a nuclear weapons state you can easily become prey to the US and Israel. That's the lesson from North Korea. The belief is that you must have nuclear weapons and there can be no doubt in the minds of adversaries that you have them and that you can use them against the adversary. Only then will you be safe. Unless you also have a ballistic missile program that can deliver your nukes into the US, you must be able to preposition your nukes into the US, or at least have the US convinced that you've done that.

That conclusion is now powering a renewed interest in acquiring a nuclear arsenal by many countries, for example, Turkey and Germany. For every country that talks about it there are probably ten who are thinking about it, like South Korea and Egypt, or who are thinking about expanding their undeclared arsenals, like Japan and possibly Saudi Arabia.

All that brings the nuclear option closer, not further away. Another factor that brings the nuclear option closer is the extensive proliferation of very detailed knowledge of nuclear weapons design and construction. It has become very much easier to build nukes, and I don't mean just simple, relatively low yield nukes. Technology has evolved to the point where what used to be considered "advanced" nukes can now be reliably built by a first-timer.

A good example of that is how information about H-network initiation in implosion devices has proliferated. What used to be deeply secret knowledge that took the US fifteen years and nearly a trillion dollars (in 2026 dollars) to acquire is now something a hobbyist can print with a 3D printer, and some have done precisely that just to show how easy it is to do.

For the uninitiated (pun intended) an H-network shell is a very simple replacement for the classic implosion armature of complex explosive lenses plus dozens of extremely precise detonators that all have to be detonated within a few microseconds of each other. It enables even a first-timer to create an implosion device that dramatically improves efficiency and gets much higher yields from less fissile material. So anybody who thinks Iran is stuck making a handful of primitive gun-type devices with the enriched uranium stockpile it has on hand is simply nuts. They or any other first timer with first or second world technology (Turkey, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, the Emirates, South Korea, Indonesia, etc., etc...) can go straight to city killers in the few hundred kiloton range.

That increased ease of proliferation along with the brutal lesson from Israel and the US that countries which would like to remain sovereign *must* go nuclear brings the nuclear option much closer, and not further away.

Chevrus's avatar

The next 48 hours will be telling….

Jürgen Räche's avatar

Correct.

In Germany, the government prioritizes infighting within the coalition over finding solutions.

In Germany, the arms industry is seen as the last resort out of the economic crisis, but it's failing due to raw material and energy prices. Capitalism and production are based on profit and dividends, and not least, long-term purchase guarantees and contracts. With empty state coffers and without affordable energy sources like oil and gas, steel, and chemicals, creating a thriving arms industry is almost impossible, IMPOSSIBLE. Reinmetall now wants to mass-produce underwater drones. The situation with tanks, however, is worse: no steel, no gun barrels, and live grenades are unaffordable at between 3,000 and 8,000 euros each, assuming raw materials are available.

Germany already shifted to an arms industry 75-85 years ago. The difference: there were millions of unemployed (skilled workers!), and there were raw materials available through colonies and domestic coal mines, providing cheap and reliable energy. AND IMPORTANTLY...the population supported it and went along! "Not so much today...it's war, NO ONE goes."

AND

German weapons are failing one after another in a real emergency...there isn't a single worthwhile contract worldwide for the PHZ 2000 howitzer...it's about the same with the LEO II Brennente tanks. They're not good for promotional videos, but they're not good for dividends either.

Titanium, neon gas, palladium, hellium, and about 27 other minerals are now banned Exported from Russia...F35s are currently being delivered without radar, IF they're delivered at all...waiting times have quadrupled.

But whatever...converting Europe to an arms industry will fail...and cost billions...leaving empty shelves.

That's why, at least in Germany, leading politicians are already talking about a "state of emergency" and the activation of emergency laws = right to strike suspended, compulsory military service without the possibility of conscientious objection, postponement of elections...etc. Google will help you.

Should Russia react in the Baltics...that is reason enough to activate a "state of emergency".

Jullianne's avatar

A brilliant comment that deserves a higher profile than merely a reply to mine. You should repost it as a stand-alone. Thanks for such a lucid cogent analysis. Everyone should read it.

Anthony Dunn's avatar

Excellent post. Thanks.

E H's avatar

The text reflects a truth, but a virtual one. We enter the realm of fiction, of fantasy. The EU lacks the material, intellectual, and financial resources to implement its projects. As evidence of the veracity of my statements, for over four years the EU's dwarfs have been barking but taking no action; the only result is that they are all heading towards the Third World. Just to produce handgun ammunition for a month, they are all forced to resort to debt. The question is, since the TGV, the Ariane launcher, and Airbus aircraft, what innovations have the EU members produced? Absolutely nothing. They pool their resources to produce a Category D or E weapon. Regarding the Baltic states, if Russia decided to beat one of them, no one in the EU would lift a finger. The EU and NATO are fictions, and the same goes for the USA and its toothless old bulldog.

Jürgen Räche's avatar

Now VW and Porsche are converting their production to wartime production...both companies are on the brink of financial collapse, with profits plummeting by up to 90%.

Opel (US-owned) is facing closure in Eisenach.

Mercedes is converting stockpiled trucks into military vehicles due to lack of demand.

Chevrus's avatar

Well I suppose after the No-one shows Up barrier is crossed they can just make legions of exploding robots. Wont that be fun… Just more misadventures in the world of countermeasures. At some point the actual humans turn 180 and blast the nip-drivers and stevedores who are causing the actual problems. So much of this is based on threats…..

grr's avatar

Porsche used to manufacture tanks; going full circle.

Simon Robinson's avatar

Julianne, well said, your last paragraph is the Pachyderm in the Parlour re: Germany's weaponisation. Iirc the reason the non military engineering sector (VW etc) collapsed was because following the terrorist attack on Nordstream, the inflated price of energy drove manufacturers to seek pastures new, and I further believe many have done just that by relocation to; some say China, others say the US, maybe it's both. As the energy issue hasn't gone away the question remains just how are they going to power these repurposed factories. Next; is the matter of acquiring the necessary materials to actually produce the Weapons. Modern Car Makers rely on JIT (just in time) delivery of already or partly completed parts and materials, like Engine blocks, Body Panels etc to enable a constant production stream whereby the "Bits", from all over the World, come in one door and finished Cars roll out of the other 24/7/365. The reorganisation of supply chains, material availability, re-tooling and re-training involved to make Weapons at scale will be massive in terms of expense and time, is it even possible ? And; last but not least, is there the domestic and international Political will to drive these projects forward. Whilst I have no doubt that the good Burghers of Germany don't want thousands of highly skilled unemployed on their books, lots of other Countries are in the same Boat and will be prepared to take cut throat measures with respect to prices and subsidised terms to make sure the available jobs come to them. As illustrated in Richard Medhurst's yt piece last week with regards to hydrocarbons, the US is acting all Greedy and not prepared to share even a tiny bit, they've also demonstrably proved they will use terrorism, vandalism, Piracy and any other means at their disposal to ensure everyone in the West, their so called partners and allies are dependent on them. Like Vicky said "F*ck the EU" and from where I'm sitting things haven't changed one iota.

VHMan's avatar

Ah, Lady Victoria! The princess of demonic charm. A national treasure. “Was this the face that launched…?”

frankly's avatar

How did Russia go from fighting a war with Chechnya to having them for a close ally? Might they be looking to get the same from others.

As for punishing civilians for being brain washed, that is our inheritance from too much Hollywood. Many people are going insane, going around giving them a big fat punch in the face is just more of how we got where we are.

When you make money from both sides of any fight where is the motivation to bring peace?

Jullianne's avatar

My comments are predictive, Frankly, not prescriptive. I am not advocating anything, just making some wild guesses about where it is going. As for why it might be going there... profit, you cry. Who knew! But if there is going to be a fight there is usually some party coming out a winner in the short term, and that is where the betting gets more interesting..... if that is the water in which you trying to fish.

As for peace mongering, who isn't in favour of peace?

John Galtsky's avatar

"How did Russia go from fighting a war with Chechnya to having them for a close ally? "

Chechnya has been a constituent state of Russia for longer than the US has existed as a country (well, actually not quite but close enough...). They're not an "ally" of Russia any more than Indiana is an "ally" of the US.

What happened in Chechnya was the US trying a "tear Russia apart" play by fomenting terrorist activity within Russia itself. This was before 9/11, when the CIA were still patting themselves on the back for creating al Qaeda as a terrorist force in Afghanistan to oppose the Afghan government and the USSR.

In Chechnya they brought in terrorists to attempt to take over Chechnya and create a caliphate within Russia itself, knowing that a weakened Russia would have real problems with that. It did. I remember how the Islamic terrorists the US supported set off mass terror acts in Moscow, like bombing subways and taking entire theaters full of people hostage.

But Russia wasn't fighting a war with some third party country, no more than the US would be fighting a war if the US took military action to prevent Islamic terrorists from establishing their own caliphate in Massachusetts or California. It opposed an extremely large scale terrorist attempt to take over Russian territory. Russia's fight against the terrorists worked, and one reason it did work is Russia's very large Islamic population which has been a part of Russia for a thousand years. They didn't want an alien, radical Islamic caliphate, they wanted to continue to be what they have been for a thousand years, a respected and integral part of a large society. And they didn't want some adventurers who teamed up with foreign terrorists to steal *their* land.

The other reason the attempted caliphate was defeated was that the Russian military crushed the terrorists and all who supported them. Good for Russia.

frankly's avatar

Thanks for the detail. It was rhetorical on my part. Her basic premise of a strictly military solution for all that ails the world leaves me cold.

I could easily envision a day when members of the former USSR beg to return to the flock and Russia tells em to pack sand. But then I also think it inevitable that Mexico builds a wall to keep Americans out, after taking back all the land we stole from them!

PFC Billy's avatar

Since the uptick in bot generated social media posts full of key words supporting Ukraine vs. Russian Federation on line took off more than 48 hours before the Russians crossed the border, even slightly preceding the opening of the massive Ukrainian artillery barrage, it was pretty obvious that US intelligence & ISR was spun up and fully engaged on a war footing right from the start.

ann watson's avatar

it would be better if Orban was Head of the EU. But he's a zionist. They need to be gone

Victor's avatar

Nearly all leaders in Europe are zionists - who do people think put them in power in the first place?

ann watson's avatar

yeah- its weird because they're all zionists but they like different mafias or gangs or cartels. There's the European ones - under VonDerLying and there's the Israeli ones like Orban and Trump

PFC Billy's avatar

Oh, the Germans are re arming are they? Lovely.

The Eastern native American tribes used to reserve parts of what is now Kentucky as an unpopulated battle ground for their hot blooded young men to go off & fight each other in without inconveniencing the rest of their tribes by fighting around home. Perhaps Poland, Western Ukraine and Eastern Germany could be cleared out of innocents to create an official combat theme park where the Western Euros + whatever Brits and their cracker cousins wanna fight can go every Spring to hold ritual combats with live ammo vs. the Russians (and not wreck shit for the rest of us)?

NiggleS's avatar

Oh come on...

The Fourth Reich is the charm, don't you know....

(/s because of the general level of intelligence on this forum)

Victor's avatar

Surely there must be a forum out there somewhere that more suits your intelligence.

PFC Billy's avatar

I think this would technically be the 5th Reich?

samghjk's avatar

My dream was they find an uninhabited island somewhere far in the ocean, or maybe some uninhabited planet for their beloved fighting and trying new toys

PFC Billy's avatar

Send them off to battle in AI generated virtual spaces, throw the losers in a (real world) wood chipper?

Grease Dealer's avatar

At what point do we as Europeans seriously begin discussing blowing these rear military facilities up?

Robert Mobsby's avatar

Thank you for your work! Much appreciated!