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Meanwhile Trump launchеd four ATACMS on Voronezh, right as Witkoff and Dmitriev were "negotiating" once again.

Putin pushed hard for swallowing it last year with the excuse that Biden was on the way out, thus there was no need to respond. What is the excuse now?

And who could have guessed that not responding back then would have just normalized it? Who could have guessed...

P.S. Let nobody come here with "But they were all shot down" and "the HIMARS TELs that launched them were immediately destroyed". Both are true, it does not matter. Next time they won't be shot down, and they will fly even further. This has to stop, with immediate, brutal, ruthless measures.

P.P.S. Read Karaganov's latest:

https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/interview-karaganow

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bemused's avatar

The Russians don't care what the western leadership thinks of them. They could walk on water and the leadership would say it just proves they can't swim. What they do care about is that NATO is disarming itself one attack at a time, bankrupting the west one wunderwaffen at a time, and Russia is steadily advancing on the battlefield -- and the pace is increasing. Putin is taking the long view -- the SMO won't last forever and what comes next? It appears Russia is going to be in a very good position when that happens, and it might not take all that long to get there. That part is yet to be decided, though.

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I think Putin cares what most of the world thinks about Russia -- just not the western leadership. They are lost causes. Russia has to attempt to negotiate with them as theater for the rest of the world to watch. Much of the rest of the world remembers the USSR and not fondly. Russia needs to reassure them that Russia is not USSR v2. It does not want to subjugate other countries and keep the populations in by force.

Crushing the state of Ukraine? I don't see that as an objective, and I don't recall Russia ever saying that was one either. Indeed it would run counter to their their main objective as being a powerful -- peaceful -- force in a multi-polar world.

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Feral Finster's avatar

No, were Russia to respond forcefully (such as in Georgia in 2008), western leadership might hate them, but they would fear them.

The western leaders now hate Russia, but they do not fear Russia.

bemused's avatar

Russia wants to be respected. Why does that mean they need to be feared?

Feral Finster's avatar

Russia is neither respected nor feared. They're the butt of jokes.

Tim's avatar

All you are doing is just advocating for a world war.

Saner voices don't want one.

GM's avatar

And you are the type that would have woken up on June 22nd 1941 and said "there is no need to overreact to provocations"

VHMan's avatar

Karaganov loads but English is not a choice. You seem to be able to get in there and swim—maybe you could publish a URL for the non-subscribed English reader.

Cotra's avatar

You are right. Appeasement does not work with Anglo Saxons.

That is something that the politicians in the Eastern Europe do not understand, specially in Russia, due to their inferiority complex.

Opport Knocks's avatar

The rail track was "blown up"!!! Yet the loose gravel below the rail was completely intact. The remaining ends of the damaged rail look like a stress crack in substandard steel..

These people must think we are as stupid as they are.

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Vinny Vanchesco's avatar

Hard to believe there's any salami left...

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Tim's avatar

Germans were never "nazis."

You've just swallowed the jewish propaganda about NS Germany.

The only nazis are judaics, not Germans.

Look at what they are doing in Gaza.

Not hard to see the truth when it's staring you in the face.

Squeeth's avatar

Dickhead, zionists aren't Jews.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Unfortunately, Israel calls itself a homeland for Jews.

So, while I understand your distinction it is a losing argument.

Another "side" of this problem is the "Jewish mob". While Lansky supported Israel, it isn't at all clear he was a Zionist. Finkelstein says that if you have enough money to get to Israel and you don't go, you aren't a Zionist.

Then too, Tim has a point about the treatment of the Palestinians which actually extends to the historical treatment of fellow Jews where the "establish Israel supporters" (I'm purposely not saying Zionists) cooperated with certain German organizations to force immigration of many of the Jews to Palestine to build up a force that might take over the territory.

IOW, the labels are useless here.

The "Jewish Mob" has been a "real thing" for nearly 100 years, yet mentioning it gets one accused of being anti-Semitic. How can we ever reach consensus if we're constantly screaming at one another over whether or not a real threat exists when that threat is quite obvious. If a different label is applied, those screaming against will readily scream for.

A conundrum to be sure.

thatguy's avatar

"Dickhead, zionists aren't Jews."

Your autistic, repetetive b.s. schtick here is even dumber than the retarded troll line that "Putin is a Jew!". Tiresome nonsense. But I do think you mean well.

FNAR.

GM's avatar

>Germans were never "nazis."

Yes, they were. It wasn't Hitler setting whole villages on fire and burning people alive in Belarus, it was the regular Hans doing it. With great enthusiasm.

Tim's avatar
Nov 20Edited

Not so.

Stalin had a special directive which required all soviet citizens in the areas in which the Wehrmacht was advancing to don German uniforms, and torch the villages so as to deprive the Germans of shelter and food as they advanced.

This then could be blamed on the Germans.

Historical investigation doesn't seem to be your forte.

The "Renegade Tribune" w/s is always a good place to look for the truth about those times.

NiggleS's avatar

Politicians *rely* on the ignorance of the masses they try to control, hence the concerted attempt from the UN and Western governments to outlaw "disinformation" and "misinformation". Can't let facts get in the way of a good scare.

The vast majority of people would take the description of that photo as "blown up" at face value, not knowing what stress/fatigue fractures look like, or that explosions leave very obvious traces.

aDoozy's avatar

People have been conditioned out of using a discerning eye, thoughtful analysis, and just plain common sense. The masses have been steered into having others explain to them what they are seeing, and what to think about it.

This conditioning and steering results in "brains full of mush", as Rush Limbaugh used to say. Such brains are much easier to control.

a curious mind's avatar

It seems that this Ukrainian soldier believes in 'behaviour modification therapy' to replace negative behaviour patterns with desired behaviour. So he shares what is bothering him and seeks 'professional help'.

"This conditioning" is not sufficient resource to survive... so technocrats also believe/understand that people "should be chipped like cattle" in order to be fully immersed in virtual reality, experiencing a “rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”

As you say: "Such brains are much easier to control."

As Simplicius says: "What an idea."

JohnOnKaui's avatar

"The masses have been steered"

This is an unfair description. There is no active campaign to make people stupid. Quick tell us all how the internet protocol LISP works! What is the process for making iron.

First of all, you don't care. It is up to others to figure it out and even then most only know a small portion of the chain of knowledge required.

Limbaugh's purpose was to convince his listeners that they were smarter and more informed than everyone else.

Telling people that others are stupid is a way to get Fredo to think there will be "something in it for me!". Works on all "sides". No matter how aloof you believe yourself to be from the mass hysteria sweeping the country. While you see and fear fascists (as do I), others see salvation in fascism. Throwing around a "trigger word" isn't going to change anyone's mind.

We all choose what information we are willing to believe based on a "gut feeling". It is important that we try to understand one another's failings in this regard.

Glenn Greenwald, for example, is doing a pretty good imitation of this in his videos when he discusses who Jeffrey Epstein was. Chomsky was a "good friend" of Epstein's. Was Chomsky a pedophile? Is Chomsky a Zionist? No and No.

There is another narrative that we need to try to understand or we will be reduced to killing one another. I don't think "my side" (which is very poorly defined) is vicious enough to win. We have to work toward reconciliation, understanding and forgiveness.

Clint Eastwood isn't going to come and save us.

bemused's avatar

As a retired programmer, when you mentioned LISP I thought there was no way.... I wrote a program in the LISP programming language back in college (little tiny thing -- it didn't do much). Some wag tagged LISP as standing for 'lots of inserted silly parentheses' -- all I remember of it is lots of parentheses, CARs and CDRs). Then I looked up LISP with internet protocols and saw that it was something ENTIRELY different. I found the confusion amusing, anyway. I was also amazed that the LISP programming language is still in use. I guess you had to get a lot deeper into it than I did to wrap your head around its concepts.....

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Yes very different. Location Identification Separation Protocol. Kind of like how cell phones work but allows for some interesting redundancy configurations.

thatguy's avatar

"Was Chomsky a pedophile? Is Chomsky a Zionist? No and No."

Not sure how you can say "no" with such certainty. I lost most of my former respect for Chomsky when he used his intellectual status as a cudgel to ridicule people who questioned the official stories of bot 9/11 and the JFK assassination. He became a high-level gatekeeper.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

I don't know Chompsky's position on JFK or 9/11.

I'm pretty sure it would be impossible to discover it. Yeah, lots of articles and lots of pundits with opinions but that's not helpful.

I did find this:

http://22november1963.org.uk/noam-chomsky-jfk-assassination

I don't see him doing anything but expressing an opinion that JFKs murder didn't change policy. He finds it implausible. I find it plausible, but I will always have a certain amount of doubt.

thatguy's avatar

Here is Chomsky running cover for the 9/11 "official theory". Like others, he is right on so many things but then just shits the bed. Lost a lot of respect for him after this. His take on JFK is also suspect. I am largely in agreement with you on your posts.

https://youtu.be/AhlWLNvZs1I?si=1XT0H8GzOcKx9L0Y

Ismaele's avatar

Most people have busy lives, with family and work, and just stop at titles of articles, without even going through, looking at photos, let alone reading what the article actually says.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Do you hold them in contempt for that? I spend hours everyday following dozens of different leads. It means I agree with (most of) Simplicius. So?

bemused's avatar

To a certain extent, yes, if they base their beliefs only on headlines. So often the article does not support -- or even blatantly contradicts -- the headline. So many times I read comments on articles by people who obviously never got past the headline. TLDR....

John Galtsky's avatar

"These people must think we are as stupid as they are."

Yes, they do. The reason it's called "propaganda for morons" is that it works great on morons.

Hans Kloss's avatar

Not sure about morons. The purpose of the propaganda is to tell the loyal part of the population what the current narrative is. They get also the tools to sustain their views when attacked with facts or logic. The same attitudes regarding thinking and research are visible on the other side and these are not morons. We all have our biases too.

The basic assumption about the democracy that we had that the people are rational and informed while willing to spend time on decision making are not true and if you look in documented history of democratic Athens you will see this to be true back then too. There were short periods of time when the media were diverse but this has been captured by the deep state long time ago or have we seen any objective reporting on any major subject over the last few wars/decades?

As for Poland - I was there few weeks back - people live very well comparing to Germany at least there are no garbage can dwellers and people sleeping on the railway stations which is the case in Germany where I come from. The Polish friends of mine suggested that the beggars in Germany are foreigners but most of them are actually German. What I mean here - as long as Poland and Polish people are well off (through this war as well as through their own entrepreneurship) they do not need to know much. Quite some are pissed off because of the Ukrainian flags and they also start to remember about Wolyn massacres again. This is low level resistance but it exists. If something big were to happen it would cause massive support for the government anyway and repression against people thinking differently just like in Ukraine and elsewhere.

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Thank you for re-explaining (or is it more comprehensively) what I also see as the issue. It isn't helpful to call others morons. Doing so just serves one's own ego while alienating the "other".

I would like to think that is "something big" were to happen, the majority would turn on the fascists running the Polish government. Mercouris, last time I looked, was talking about the AFD and opposition to Mertz. Like a 70/30 option whether the public would support going to war or would reject the current government. In the first case, he indicates fascism will thrive. In the second, the form of government that will arise is not at all clear. In fact, civil war is a possibility.

In the USA, it seems the techno-feudalists (Varoufakis) are in a dominant position. But the support for Israel and all the AIPAC signs on the doors of nearly every Congressman infuriate a significant number of resistance groups. Will their ranks swell? I can only hope.

I guess I might have switched lanes here, but, turning back, I want to emphasize that calling others morons only paves the way for fascism and the Oligarchy to further cement their control.

There is no Xi or Putin in the USA to protect us from our fears and the Greed of the Capitalist religion. The Anglo-American Oligarchy/Deep State/organized crime conglomerate will remain firmly in control because most people can't see them.

Even here.

Dhdh's avatar

Because Polish people are still blood and soil and they keep out the subhumans - although the Jew is trying to change that.

Dhdh's avatar

Poles also know about the Jew problem.

Feral Finster's avatar

Europeans are the most rule-following authority-trusting sheep on the planet.

Angelina's avatar

Professional inbred conformists.

Herman's avatar

"The problem is not that this railroad track was blown up, the problem is that it was laid."

Jürgen Räche's avatar

In a combustion explosion, surfaces similar to those created by a welding torch are formed at the ends. In an expansion explosion, where explosives are placed under the rail, the rail is torn and its ends are bent.

What you see in the pictures, as any railway worker will tell you, is a material failure... the kind that occurs hundreds of times with cheap steel and is usually caused by overloading, meaning very heavy wagons, excessive speeds, and defective wheel rims.

This is another attempt to stir up hatred... apparently, another plan failed, and something had to be done.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Not if you place the explosive-strings at the side of the inside or outside of the track.

Charles Langlois's avatar

If you do that, the remaining track will be displaced sideways, which this isn't. The break in this track is characteristic of brittle failure. Explosives don't make steel brittle.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Agree. Looks suspicious but could very well be explosive nevertless.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

While skepticism is a "good thing", why do you want to cast doubt when so many have provided excellent analysis of the situation?

Now, to be fair to you, if you recall the brouhaha over the "Russian Missile" that was suppose to have landed in Poland over two years ago killing some farmers, I find all the explanations wanting.

The wagon full of grain was being emptied into a grain elevator chute. The wagon was tipped over on its side. I find it incredible that the "missile" just happened to land inside the elevator structure creating a huge crater. It was suppose to have been a SAM! That hole was at least 20ft deep.

I contend there was a grain explosion. The narrative released on all sides was an attempt to take advantage of an unfortunate accident and then to alter the narrative to support the "other side" and walk back the provocative nature of the first stories released.

So, yes, maybe, possibly you're right, but you need to provide something more substantial than "could have been".

Mikey Johnson's avatar

I have seen examples like this for all my life. Look at 1:28.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agznZBiK_Bs

Tim's avatar

Look, it doesn't matter what the rails look like.

The simple fact is that Russian drones were overhead at the time.

Many little green men were seen scurrying about the area before the explosion occurred, and they were ALL speaking Russian.

They even found Matrushka dolls scattered about the area afterwards.

How much more evidence do you need?

Putin is behind all of this, and it's time Europe woke up to the existential threat he poses to the Garden.

Hans Kloss's avatar

as a contrarian I would like to pint out that most of Ukrainians still speak Russian and that quite some of them feel Russian too and some of them have developed an independent view of reality i.e. they do not support the war. They will not talk about it because of the consequences but they may do things.

Whether the photo is correct is another question altogether. We saw the fakes last time around (alleged Russian drones attack) so the chances are that this is indeed a psyop. What is the truth we will probably never know for sure, which is why we should not use absolutes like we do.

Feral Finster's avatar

Tim was making a funny.

Juliaah's avatar

The dolls 😁 A change from the West where its always a passport conveniently left behind

Angelina's avatar

Picture with Putin on a horse will also do.

Kun Bela's avatar

There should be a few lost FSB ID cards somewhere, it would be a big mistake if they weren't found, once they were prepared ! :)

BKrome's avatar

Is that a reference to an AQ hijacker passport magically found just streets away from the obliterated '9/11' WTC buildings? What would be the odds?

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Fun-ny!

While the exaggeration is obvious to me -- this time -- please include a "/s" next time so people don't conclude you're claiming actual fact.

thatguy's avatar

That is indeed a recurrent problem with boards like this that have a linguistically diverse commentariat and readership. The subtleties of good sarc are often unrecognized. So the /s tag should be used liberally. Just for the sake of clarity for all.

occamsrazorback22's avatar

"How much more evidence do you need?"

Would it be asking too much to see a few (Russian) vodka bottles strewn at the "scene of the crime"?

dacoelec's avatar

ROFLMAO!👍🤣

thatguy's avatar

"How much more evidence do you need?"

Russian passports are needed from the site of the fiery demolition. That will settle it once and for all.

Angelina's avatar

A conveniently left behind, burned edges, Russian passport is a good start.

GM's avatar

That this is a false flag is not the key issue here.

The key issues are:

1) Why are trains still running in Ukraine when they should not have been running anywhere in Europe a long time ago?

2) Why does Poland still exist when it should have been given an ultimatum to shut down the border or be erased from the map three years ago?

P.S. Read Karaganov's latest:

https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/interview-karaganow

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GM's avatar

Karaganov is by no means doing this solo, he is speaking for other people.

Also, always remember that he wrote a small book on that topic last year. Not alone -- with coauthors Dmitri Trenin and Admiral Avakyants. Who are those people?

Trenin used to be the director of the Carnegie Moscow Center and an ultra pro-Western liberal. And was like that even when the SMO started. And was against any talk of using nukes in those first few months. But then apparently he had a conversion experience.

Avakyants was the commander of the Pacific Fleet until he hit the retirement age limit in 2023. So until two years ago he was in charge of half the Russian nuclear submarines and part of the General Staff.

Avakyants also went on prime time Russian TV about a month ago and said "all the plans for the complete destruction of Europe have existed for a long time, it is all ready to go, the question is political will".

There simply isn't even discussion of how unthinkable what is happening right now used to be just four years ago. Events that would have triggered immediate nuclear use during the Cold War are happening very hour at the moment. But not everybody has forgotten that, Russians didn't stop seeing themselves as the other military superpower just because their own elites exited the Cold War is such an ignominious way.

Also, you can be sure Putin has heard everything Karaganov says many times. From Karaganov himself -- they are close -- and from the military.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Excellent question, although too harsh for me…you do follow your ”kill-them-all” doctrine, GM.

But very relevant questions. By secret forces or proxy-use of polish, ukrainian or paid islamistic people, Russia should have destroyed tracks, bridges, signal-systems, train switches for long. It is evidence of Putin fighting a gentlemens war (no sorry, SMO) against his ”partners” in the west.

But on another hand, Russia, has done quite a lot of sabotage in Europe already.

I think Polish counter-intelligence, is quite good at their job.

Why Poland still exist is more a matters of facts. Russia couldnt afford an ultimatum they wouldnt run to the end. But they could have raised the railway-tunnels and bridges on the Ukrainian side.

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Nov 19Edited

Another question -- the attempted ATACMS strike on Voronezh apparently aimed at the Russian army command center there. You know, the type of object Putin has made sure to be off limits for four years now in Ukraine.

Meanwhile today we read about US generals Dan Driscoll and Randy George meeting with Syrsky in Kiev. Quite publicly.

Why was there no Kinzhal sent to wherever they were given that a gathering place of Russian generals was attacked by the US just hours prior, and that the US generals went to Kiev in the middle of a rather large Russian missile strike on Ukraine?

So the US can target the Russian military on Russian soil, but the Russian military is strictly forbidden from targeting the US officers even when they are where they have absolutely no business being.

How long can the Russian military tolerate this?

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Good point. The ”boiling frog” seems to have some disadvantage in this game.

grr's avatar

Yeah, nuke Poland. Problem sorted.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

TL;DR;

"If we want to prevent a nuclear war we have to nuke someone in Europe so they'll be afraid of nuclear war and surrender to us".

Totally Nuts!

GM's avatar
Nov 19Edited

Why is it nuts?

It is exactly how it will go down.

Russia nukes Europe, the US goes home and sits it out.

Robert Auld's avatar

Either you are paid to push this line, or you need some serious education in nuclear war theory. The use of nuclear weapons inevitably leads to escalation and the use of more nuclear weapons. That is why we have not seen their use since WWII. No country dares take the risk of starting a nuclear war.

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Nov 19Edited

No, you are the one that needs education in nuclear war theory.

Europe was already sacrificed by the US in advance in the Cold War. It is not going to launch towards Russia if Europe is attacked, because then there will be a second strike.

In fact no country will launch the nukes towards a nuclear state that has attacked another state, with the sole likely exception of the US launching them if Israel is destroyed. But that is because the US no longer exists as an independent entity in practice.

BKrome's avatar

Thanks for the link. Fascinating guy.

Is it possible he's been employed to sow the fear he says the EU oligarchs have lost? Good cop / bad cop.

The Americans are in the same basket as the Europeans. I don't agree with his assessment 'that they have retained their understanding of what war really means'.

America is a cartoon nation now. The American people are hostage to buffoons. It's sickening and surreal to see world politics be conducted like an absurd day time soap opera show that is equal parts horror and drama. The EU no better of course.

"Karaganov: We are dealing with absolutely insane people, especially in Europe. The European elite, in whose circles I grew up and which is now a thing of the past, has degenerated. As far as I understand, a number of countries are ruled by people with „hyena brains” who are completely unaware of the consequences of their actions. That's why dialogue with them is pointless. You only have to fear one thing – physical pain. However, we can negotiate with the Americans, who have retained much of their human potential and understanding of what war really means. However, I hope that there are still such sensible people in Europe. I just don't see her anymore."

GM's avatar

>Is it possible he's been employed to sow the fear he says the EU oligarchs have lost? Good cop / bad cop.

I doubt anyone in the West is listening.

The bad cop that the West does listen to is Medvedev, because he is on Twitter. And we know they read him -- he got into Twitter spats with Lindsey Graham and Trump himself on multiple occasions

Karaganov is much more hawkish than even Medvedev, and is primarily for internal consumption. Because the war inside Russia has not been won yet. Very far from it.

>The American people are hostage to buffoons

Not at all. This is all a concerted plan hatched decades ago and very well executed so far. Don't pay attention to the orange clown in chief, there are people in the corporations, the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department whose names we have never heard who organize these things, and they are the best in the business. Look at the empirical results -- did anyone imagine four years that the US will be firing ballistic missiles at Voronezh, while also flying hundreds of light cruise missiles (euphemistically called "drones" in order to not raise too much alarm) every day, and there will be absolutely no reaction to it from the Kremlin? Be honest. And yet here we are.

The fact that we are here shows us how good at analyzing the opponents and how to defeat them the people who drive this are.

P.S. The Europeans are buffoons if we assume that their leadership cares about their countries. Nobody in their right mind would sign the suicide pact that is NATO -- everyone who has sat down to really think about it knows that the US will rather dissolve NATO than go for an all-out exchange with Russia, i.e., exactly as Karaganov says, Russia can erase Europe from the map with very little risk to itself -- the US will sit it out. And he says it because he has been around these discussions for many decades -- he started as a speech writer for Brezhnev -- so he is deeply familiar with the real strategy of both sides, from the inside.

But those elites don't care, and as long as that bluff is not called, it is a very good deal for them, and quite likely will be a good deal for them even if the bluff is called, assuming they can evacuate on time.

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"Not at all. This is all a concerted plan hatched decades ago and very well executed so far. Don't pay attention to the orange clown in chief, there are people in the corporations, the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department whose names we have never heard who organize these things, and they are the best in the business."

Perhaps people within these agencies at the behest of globalist ('internationalist') types ran America with its social engineering psyops and their scripts but at some point in time, it transitioned into Bolshevik neocons within America and abroad calling the political and military shots. Scratch the surface and they come from the same tribe or married into it. Influence/ownership of the American political class through corruption or blackmail.

I don't consider EU oligarchs as elites. Nothing about them is elite. Like the American political class, I doubt they are agents of their own destiny. They are boobs. Whatever their educational pedigree, it's just window dressing credentials for the role they play.

GM's avatar

>Bolshevik neocons

That's an oxymoron.

There is nothing Bolshevik about the neocons, or anyone else really in US politics.

BKrome's avatar

One and the same. Whatever cloak it wears, it's the same people. The terms are labels for the occasion and for convenience but the reference is usually understood. Usually with claims of anti-Semitism.

Norwegian's avatar

Some of us are engineers. Some of us engineers deal with material fatigue. We know it when we see it. There was no explosives involved.

Tim's avatar

You are obviously just a Russian shill trying to distract us from the real and present danger that Russia poses to all peace-loving people everywhere.

If they are allowed to get away with this, they will soon be doing the same thing outside Paris and London.

Hans Kloss's avatar

To be honest I would not mind. I would still prefer that the Macron, Starmer , Merz etc be taken out. The world and our countries would be better w/o them. Yet I doubt the Russian would do it. I am not even sure whether they would use the tools they really have at their disposal to decapitate the West if their army were on its knees.

Squeeth's avatar

I hear that the Russians are conspiring to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

YEAH! Like they did in East Palestine Ohio!

/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s <-- I don't want to leave any doubt. None whatsoever.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

You need an explosive-expert to tell what happened, not an engineer. Explain the cable.

Charles Langlois's avatar

How do you know where the "cable" is in relation to the break. It could be any cable across any line, anywhere. It could even have been placed there by the photographer or their assistant.

Since there wasn't any explosion, you don't need an explosives expert. You need someone who understands how steel fails and that is an engineer.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

I wrote another comment about the cable. It could be planted. You cant tell it wasnt an explosion out of just one photo.

Charles Langlois's avatar

Yes you can, if you know anything about material science.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Why do you keep pushing your lost cause? Give us something more substantial than, "It has to be sabotage because I want it to be sabotage."

You're beginning to sound as off-the-rails as GM.

Oh Wait! You are!

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Stupid comment. What lost cause?. If it wasnt an act of sabotage it was material fatigue and the Poles would be really stupid to let their PM make a fool of himself. Read my comments and make up your mind AFTER some afterthoughts instead of your football-supporter attitude.

Chip Worley's avatar

I'm an engineer who taught demolition in the army. So there is that. The cable could be anything. But the "cut" on the rail was not a "cut" created by an explosive ribbon charge (like those done with C4). It looks more like a fatigue break in the rail as others have posited... Chip

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Thx. Appreciate experts on matters. I agree that it looks more brittle than a clean cut from explosives. But can you explain that the cut is diagonal inbound without the sleepers being damaged. Where did all these pressure from the train-wheel go? As for clean cuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuzjE-Cq2mg

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The cut wouldn't necessarily be "clean" but mostly straight up and down as ribbon charges are placed perpendicular to the rail, and with opposing charges (offset) on each side of the rail. And train cars have multiple wheels (in the US four on each end) which can fairly easily distribute the weight over a failing piece of track. And these concrete ties used throughout Europe don't move nearly as much as the timber ones used in the US... Chip

Mikey Johnson's avatar

But you didnt comment the ”unclean” cut, Chip…

And the explanation of the concrete ties not moving…then they will support the eroding iron better than timber? You have the clip here: 1:28, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agznZBiK_Bs

Mikey Johnson's avatar

And as for ”unclean” cuts: 1:28 in this film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agznZBiK_Bs

abcdefg's avatar

It looks like the damage would be fixed in an afternoon. If the Russians wanted sabotage they would have blown a bridge or 2. Like the British did in Ru a few months back.

Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

The presence of a "clip" suggests it's continuously welded track (Poles use it on main lines) and the break looks like some unfortunate soul even drove an axle over the break.

That's a bit worrying because:

1) it's not cold enough for CWRs to start breaking because of cold (there's a design temperature where a CWR would be under zero stress, but as temperatures fall below that, the rail gets shorter and since it's continous, it induces stress trying to pull it apart and it also becomes more brittle - as you could see in their photo. But it was not very cold in Poland these days, so something was wrong with it)

2) the system is very good at detecting breaks and they would not send a train over a broken track. Basically, the track just keeps a closed electrical circuit and when it breaks, the current stops flowing.

So, it most probably broke under a train for some reason.

My best guess would be, there was a line break at some point in the past and they heated the replacement piece too much and now it broke at a bit too high temperature.

Paul Jurczak's avatar

They stopped using circuit open/close sensors, replacing them with axel counting sensors.

Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

Axle counters serve a completely different purpose and can't detect rail breaks. They serve to determine whether the track is occupied, not whether it's broken. They replaced track circuits with axle counters, not rail break detectors (a different thing).

Modern rail break detectors are a bit more sophisticated than simply detecting circuit breaks. They're basically TDRs (Time Domain Reflectometers) - basically the same thing used to measure coax cables/antenna setups. They send out pulses and observe the timing and characteristics of its reflection. They can detect a fault even before the rail finally breaks and they can localize the break with very high accuracy.

They can also somewhat (not completely reliably) warn against foreign objects fallen on the track.

Paul Jurczak's avatar

What I meant, according to a local railroad expert, circuit continuity sensors were previously used to detect presence/absence of a train on a given section of tracks. I speculated that they could also detect, perhaps only in some cases, a gap in the rail. Given that they phased out these sensors and replaced them with axel counting for train presence detection, this option is no longer available.

Several modern rail brake detectors were mentioned by that expert, but they are not used due to their cost.

Paul Jurczak's avatar

Applying liquid nitrogen to the rail would produce a stress fracture like this one, immediately or after a train wheel runs over it.

PFC Billy's avatar

Yes, that can be a way to break steel, cryogenic liquid + shock. But:

How are you moving the Dewar cylinder of liquid N2 without being noticed and how huge is the cloud of condensation fog generated by applying the liquid?

JohnOnKaui's avatar

FINALLY, a plausible alternative.

Dhdh's avatar

uh.... study thermal dynamics maybe...

Dhdh's avatar

How would you transport such a huge volume of liquid nitrogen that could have any effect on a huge piece of conductive metal like a railroad track

Paul Jurczak's avatar

Heat conduction is not instantaneous and limited by the rail's fairly small cross-section. You don't need a huge volume to drastically lower the temperature locally and produce brittleness. Bear in mind that several trains passed over the affected rail before the gap was discovered. That produced a serious stress over the weakened section.

Dhdh's avatar

Limited cross section ? A rail is about 100 lbs a yard

Tim's avatar

It seems perfectly reasonable to me that Russia would be interested in disrupting railway lines in Poland, if these are being used to transport weaponry from Europe which will be used to kill Russian servicepeople.

The Poles seem to have the idea that it's fine for them to send lethal aid to Ukraine, but not fine for Russia to disrupt it.

Strange logic.

Squeeth's avatar

The Russians aren't that crude.

John Osman's avatar

May be they should be?

Charles Langlois's avatar

Don't you think, if Russia wanted to disrupt Polish railways, they'd do it a little more convincingly than that?

Tim's avatar
Nov 20Edited

They can't use their usual high explosive weaponry, because that makes it obvious who the culprit is, and runs the risk - or certainty - that Poland will then ask for Article 5 to be invoked.

But they can use "local operatives" - or "partisans," as they used to use against the Wehrmacht.

Plausible deniability, iow.

Charles Langlois's avatar

It was not the method that was unconvincing, but the scale. Any decent railway can fix a broken rail in very short order: it is something that happens fairly frequently without any sabotage being involved. Also,just taking out one short piece of rail isn't going to derail a train: in the photo above you can see the central truss of a wagon that has passed one bogie safely over the gap. Each bogie has at least three other wheels to support it as the other wheel passes over the missing piece of rail.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Yes. also noted that but you can have these effects with string of explosives attached to the track. The cable, if not planted, refute any stress cracks.

Charles Langlois's avatar

You obviously have no idea how explosives work. They work by generating heat. Heat makes steel less brittle, much easier to bend. There is no bending here, therefore no explosives were used and no, a picture of a wire crossing a railway line somewhere is not evidence of anything.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Nah. I dont think you know my background.

You can find for yourself examples of railway tracks blown with plastic explosives. Bending is not what you called it. A cold iron can look like that after a shaped explosion.

If your are right in fatigue stress the implications are even graver than blaming it on Russia as an act if sabotage. Tusk is lying, or made to lie by his administration, and therefore risk to make a fool of himself. Would he?

Charles Langlois's avatar

"I dont think you know my background."

Are you an engineer, by any chance? How do you think explosives work, if not by heat?

Yes. Starmer lies shamelessly, as fast as a dog trots, as did Johnson. They don't care.

Tom Worley's avatar

You guys are absolutely right, no charring, no bending, no blast crater of any sort in loose gravel. The railcar sitting above it has no charring, even the paint looks fine. The rail looks like someone took a hammer to it. I think they might have actually caught the Ukrainians in the act if they were making such noise. Nobody was caught, just 'identified'. By now I'm almost certain the Polish are doing these things on behalf of the Ukrainian Banderites.

I thank you, I had failed to examine that photo until reading your comments.

God Bless Us All

Chip Worley's avatar

As I mentioned in a longer comment at the end of the thread...

A "ribbon charge" is what would have been used to do something like this. But, as many comments have concluded, the final result would look nothing like the photo. There would not necessarily be any kind of crater, as ribbon charges are designed to use a minimum amount of explosive (C4 when I taught decades ago) so that a single sapper could go in and set multiple charges on a target or area, and able to carry it all in his ruck...

Chip

thatguy's avatar

Are you and Tom Worley related?

kam's avatar

Poland seems to have this Death Wish. Usually a Brit False Flag has some elements of credibility, though there are so many it is nauseating.

Poland, before they get the camera crew in to take the pictures they have someone fill in and rake the stone ballast to perfectly level. A Russian blast that can snap Polish (Chinese) rail like it was forged from old junk car parts, yet it does move 1 stone ballast.

Amazing...how stupid the Poles are.

Poland should go back to prepping for the invasion of Deutschland.

Feral Finster's avatar

Doesn't matter if the "sabotage" gets the europeans that war that they crave.

Sort of like the Gleiwitz operation. Sure, it was ridiculous on its face, but it got WWII kicked off in europe.

Moscow Mule's avatar

Busy week for dear Simplicius.

Vinny Vanchesco's avatar

It's invigorating to be right all the time.

No1's avatar
Nov 19Edited

As just written in my latest note:

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Poland's got another Russian sabotage story for us.

This time it's rail infrastructure. Take a look at the damage. Does that look like sabotage to you? Because it looks like metal fatigue or a brittle stress fracture to me. The kind that happens when infrastructure maintenance budgets get redirected to... other priorities.

But sure, Russia did it.

The perpetrators allegedly fled to Belarus "immediately" - meaning nobody's been caught, nobody's been questioned, but Warsaw already knows exactly who ordered the operation.

Convenient.

Especially convenient timing too. Right when Poland needs to justify increased defense spending. Right when Ukraine needs more NATO support. Right when those mysterious drones nobody could intercept are still fresh in everyone's memory (https://no01.substack.com/p/the-drone-incursion?r=17w5dj).

If Russia actually wanted to disrupt NATO supply lines flowing weapons into Ukraine -which in my opinion they are very much entitled to, they'd do it properly. The GRU would not leave calling cards. They would not botch operations this badly.

Unless of course this is exactly what Poland's security services want you to think after realizing they can't walk back the initial false report without admitting incompetence or worse.

Polish authorities have a credibility problem. And it's getting worse every time they cry wolf.

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Direct link: https://substack.com/@no01/note/c-178799886?r=17w5dj&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web

David Chere-Bolelwang's avatar

Pretty obvious.. Tusk is an asset of the Atlantacists, if you ascertain the way he got to be PM of Poland..

Tim's avatar

Matrushka dolls and empty bottles of vodka were found by the Polish authorities scattered all around the track.

it's obvious that Russia did it.

Oscar's avatar

No indestructible passports? Bank cards or fake IDs. The western muppets are slipping lol

Mikey Johnson's avatar

It could very well be sabotage, but from who is another question. It looks like they used plastic explosives which you can direct to impact a clean break.

jsarnak's avatar

This sounds reasonable to me, especially since Poland follows the US example. Take a look at what passes for our rail system. We have weekly derailments and failures because we watch the company pay the CEO's millions in bonuses while the infrastructure literally falls apart in front of our eyes. Spend money on maintenance? Never EDIT: Just so people understand, I believe what "No1" has commented sounds reasonable!!

Luís Nunes's avatar

Hey, at least the Polish special services haven't stooped down to beating confessions out of the first set of passersby that they can lay hands on, be grateful for small favors and all that 💩😉😁🤬

Tell's avatar

Even in Ukraine itself it is mostly meaningless to bomb railroad tracks as they are quickly repaired, and the trains from western Ukraine to the east keep going. The Russians have switched to trying to hit the train engines instead.

Why then would they hit a railroad in Poland, which is of no significance to the war, and which will be repaired in a day?

And pay two Ukrainians to do it?

Kennewick Man's avatar

The underlying problem is that millions of Ukraine, military age males are flooding the world, often they do not speak the language of the country of their destination and they still have to make a living somehow. At the present rate they will build networks, will be financed by dark money and carry out the plans of hidden organizations that will hide in the shadows just printing and distributing money. It is going to be a race between the money printers and normal societies.

frankly's avatar

Like ISIS. USA created and distributed.

So the whole of NATO conspires to destroy Russia. Yet somehow they declare immunity from retribution. Aren't we special, so privileged.

Oh I doubt Russia blew up the tracks, but so what if they did? How many Russians have perished from the arms shipped over those rails?

So they send more money and gear. If their populations had any real sense of danger would flooding the military enlistment centers with pissed off kids have set in long ago?

You know NATO hate Ukrainians more than Russia ever will.

Kennewick Man's avatar

A very substantial part of the jews presently in Western societies came out of Ukraine. They have an ancient ax to grind with the Ukrainians and as far as they are concerned it is payback time right now. During the Russian/Soviet Civil War that followed the 1917 Revolution the jews were treated with heavy hands by all sides.

Victor's avatar

Ukrainians remember the Jewish commissars that were put in charge by the USSR of governing the various regions - they were brutal, uncompromising, cruel (think Palestine). Their hatred of the Jews was deep and they took the opportunity for revenge when the time came, slaughtering the commissars and their families.

Kennewick Man's avatar

There was a lot of brutality handed down to the jews by both sides during those years and often the reasoning was their heavy participation on the communist side. The book: A Nasty Little War: The Western Intervention into the Russian Civil War provides a long list into these events. The book is actually a good one from a historian’s view but these events concerning jews should be still double checked. The writer is an American woman, an insider in the deep state structure, a historian.

frankly's avatar

It's kinda like white guys. Most of us are not so bad in small doses. However those at the top of the food chain are psychopathic, genocidal, perverted maniacs.

The ethnicity and religion are almost irrelevant. The guys at the top get all the benefits and us bottom feeders pay their bills and take the fall for their depravity in the bargain.

So yeah Jews are common in the upper ranks of the banks, they get faulted. But who gets marched into camps? You betcha, ghetto dwellers.

I love how because Zelenski is Jewish, the Azov battalion cannot be Nazi. Anyone who believes that needs another booster.

Chevrus's avatar

Which reminds me of a favored phrase which acts as a surly catch-all: “It would have been so much worse without the booster”.

Tim's avatar

"jew" and "nazi" are synonyms.

One day, a few more might start to wake up to that fact.

Glasshopper's avatar

Spent an afternoon walking around Auchwitz many years ago. Ukranian nationalism runs through the place like a stick of rock.

Tim's avatar

Did you visit the gas chambers that were built there after the end of the war?

When I was there, I particularly liked the swimming pool that was built for the residents.

Kennewick Man's avatar

I actually recall two swimming pools there. One in the town center and one next to the post office. Fred A. Leuchter was the engineer who was paid by Ernst Zundell to examine the gas chambers in Auschwitz. The results were fairly devastating for the holocaust story and Leuchter himself as well. The wall samples collected from the chambers did not contain cyanide while the samples from the small clothing disinfection chambers did. Leuchter, an expert designer of US execution equipment for prisons with an upper middle class lifestyle, was literally destroyed. He took his wife with him to Poland right after they married, telling her that this is their honeymoon. The woman later left him. Zundell was treated in a similar manner, terrorized and chased out of Canada , living for a while in the US, ending up in jail in Germany. Leuchter produced the Engineering Report on the Alleged Execution Chambers at Auschwitz Birkenau, and Majdanek Poland. This was a Holocaust of Aryan intellectuals living in North America.

Tim's avatar

Something like 85% of those in power after the Revolution were jews, mostly from NYC, so your thesis is weak to say the least.

Their very first declaration or law was that antisemitism would thenceforth incur the death penalty.

The jew Trump hasn't quite gone that far yet in the US - but it's coming.

Squeeth's avatar

If Ukrainians infiltrate the US, no-one will notice that they can't speak English because Americans can't either.

Luís Nunes's avatar

Ukranians already infiltrated the US, the clowns in América brought in thousands of banderites in the 50s.

VHMan's avatar

Speaking/reading English well will be self-incriminating! You probably know the story on identifying a German spy in WWII: ask him to repeat the second verse to the Star Spangled Banner!

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Like the OSS did as WWII was coming to a close and why the Canadian parliament stood and cheered a died-in-the-wool Nazi.

Then there's the Ukrainian summer camp in New York State.

And let us not forget Alexander Vindman.

The "Deep State" exists. People keep thinking a James Bond SPECTER organization but Aaron Good provides ample evidence of the true nature of the "Deep State". It isn't "tin foil hats".

Dhdh's avatar

the "deep state" is the jew

Dhdh's avatar

why not focus on the jew and the non-whites being inported into the west by the jew?

John Osman's avatar

Why not focus on finding yourself a girlfriend?

Dhdh's avatar

Thanks for confirming you are just a Jew.

John Osman's avatar

Why because I'm witty?

That's a stereotype.

Dhdh's avatar
Nov 19Edited

BC of your lame Jew scatological, small peepee, get a girlfriend, etc., etc., comments

John Osman's avatar

You don't have a sense of humour do you?

To be fair, it's just one of the senses you lack.

Tell me I'm Jewish again it really upsets me. 😂😂

Dhdh's avatar

If the king has to say he is the king. He is not the king.

John Osman's avatar

Like your claims to be a Nazi? Despite supporting the Russians against the real Nazis.? When one of their goals is "denazification"?

What a confused little boy you are!

Dhdh's avatar

In your own echo chamber.

Your standard lame small peepee get a girlfriend, scatological references etc., etc.,

Royotoyo's avatar

I think Umerov is the former Defense Minister, current head of the security council.

Opport Knocks's avatar

Axios has leaked a report of a behind-the-scenes peace deal between Witkoff and Dmitriev that will be "sold" to Zelensky and the Europeans.

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/19/ukraine-peace-plan-trump-russia-witkoff

If you don't want to subscribe, it can also be found on the Archive site (.ph).

In that context, the exposure, timing and fleeing of corrupt Ukrainian officials potentially takes on another dimension. Perhaps they are being allowed to keep a portion of their gains, and their lives, in exchange for past services rendered.

Anonymous's avatar

A total nothing burger.

"Scoop: U.S. secretly drafting new plan to end Ukraine war"

Yeah, what US peace plan version would that be? Version 50? Version 100? None of the other 99 versions of the American peace plans made any difference.

GM's avatar

>behind-the-scenes peace deal between Witkoff and Dmitriev

So we once again come back to the vital matter of the urgent necessity of putting Putin (and the likes of Dmitriev around him) on trial for grand treason.

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Your telescope seems wedged in your rear. The goblin and co are exposed as corrupt, so Putin needs to be held accountable. Usual Bali Gold induced hallucinations.

GM's avatar

1) What deal could there be between Witkoff and Dmitriev that does not amount to grand treason against vital strategic Russian interests? None.

2) Did Putin send Dmitriev to make such deals? Yes.

3) Therefore Putin is guilty of grand treason. And should be prosecuted for it.

It's not that complicated

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Agreed Putin should be looking after his country in same exemplary fashion as the Green gob. Shameful indeed.

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Its the pics of Putin bare chested on the horse isn’t it? Gets hot in Bali eh?

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Not as complicated as your raging homoerotic obsession with Putin it seems

Tim's avatar

Exceptionally stupid to think that Dimitriev has ex cathedra authority to make deals.

He doesn't, of course.

Russia proceeds as it always has, ie on the basis that the only "peace plan" acceptable to it is that Ukraine denazifies, demilitarizes, de NATO izes, and accepts the new territorial realities.

Russia will continue with the SMO until all these things are achieved.

The US has no say in these matters whatsoever.

GM's avatar
Nov 19Edited

>the only "peace plan" acceptable to it is that Ukraine denazifies, demilitarizes, de NATO izes

Which can only ever be achieved if Russian troops are at the Polish border, everyone with Banderite leanings has been physically eliminated, and the territory is permanently de-Ukrainized.

Is that what the Kremlin is pursuing? Absolutely not.

Therefore the Kremlin is not doing denazification, demilitarization, and de-NATO-ization, the price for which will be paid by regular Russians in the future. As usual...

JohnOnKaui's avatar

You may be right. Putin has not eliminated that possibility. He just hasn't elucidated it. No reason he should.

I support Putin.

Tim's avatar

Not really.

The Ukro junta is collapsing from the top down atm.

The real revolutions are generated by the people, in the final analysis, and they've had enough, and have started to read the writing which has been on the wall for 3.5 years now.

Cotra's avatar

I think you are right.

Putin is a traitor or he is stupid.

GM's avatar
Nov 19Edited

There are no other options at this point.

A quarter century of one idiotic decision after another that then spectacularly backfired eliminates all other possibilities.

But we can be almost certain he is not an idiot, so...

JohnOnKaui's avatar

If Putin were going to commit treason, he walked away from it in Alaska.

You read too much Doctorow (or he listens to much to you.)

GM's avatar

Were you there in Alaska?

No.

Then how do you know what was discussed there? Or, more importantly, in the numerous other meetings before and since?

JohnOnKaui's avatar

""we feel the Russian position is really being heard.""

vs.

""We think the timing is good for this plan now. But both parties need to be practical and realistic," "

The Russians went to Alaska with the same attitude. Why not? There's nothing to be gained by calling Trump names.

François Hollandaise's avatar

They are hellbent on getting us to war through false flags, misattributions and propaganda.

mary-lou's avatar

unfortunately :-((

BlasterAsster's avatar

I am glad Russians are winning this war, as I consider the Ukies to be ruled by the same Zionist Jews butchering the Palestinians. Zelensky, Yermak, the Odessa Oligarchs, all Zionist Jews. When the Ukraine War began, all the Ukie Jews fled to Israel...and then those Jews fled once the Israel war started...what a bunch of rats...

One of the problems with the Ukraine/Palestine "Omni-Cause" is that many of the leftists are in favor of the Ukies because they view Russia as a colonizer. One of the few commentators that gets the issue right, ironically, is Caitlin Johnstone, a veritable leftist crank that nevertheless calls out the Wests warmongering in Ukraine that weaponized them against Russia.

I am very glad to see an "Awakening" on the Jewish Question, or at least the Zionist Jewish Question, and both left and right starting to push in the correct direction, however fitfully. While I have no doubt the Russian soldiers will win the war on the ground, the "Spiritual War" is just as important in the long run. For instance:

1. Convince Ukrainians that Zelensky is a Jewish butcher that didn't value their lives at all, lay down their arms and join Russia

2. Convince America to stop funding Zionist Jew war mongers in Ukraine and Israel

3. Save the Orthodox Christians in Ukraine from Zionist Jew terror gangs and enslavers

4. Break the Jewish money networks that have captured Europe and prevent criticism of Israel or support for Russia

5. Funnel advanced weapons to Iran, Hezbollah, Yemen to further keep the Zionist Jews off balance.

6. Epstein being an obvious Mossad agent - no doubt he was busy in Ukraine - NO DOUBT

On and on, smarter people than me that read this blog will hopefully see the nucleus of my ideas here and run with them in better ways. Russia has done the heavy lifting on the ground and broken the Zionist Jew death grip on much of the world, but the battle is far from over and we are one "9/11" "10/7" "Pearl Harbor" etc from the Jews regaining the initiative and restarting another atrocity (they seem to have unlimited endurance for atrocity). It would be a great tragedy after all this blood if the despicable Zionist Jew Christ Killers get away with this, I for one will do my part in the Russian and Palestinian Holy Wars, however I can.

GM's avatar
Nov 19Edited

>as I consider the Ukies to be ruled by the same Zionist Jews

Guess who the Russians are ruled by?

And who didn't veto the Gaza resolution yesterday...

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GM's avatar

This is the UNSC, the General Staff has zero influence there.

All Putin and his inordinate fondness for everything Jewish.

Tim's avatar

Amen.

Words of truth.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

While the "jewish mob" is an integral part of the "Anglo-American Oligarchy/"Deep State"/organized crime" alliance|consortium|agency|mileau|system|<whatever you want to call it>, it is not alone.

A defeat of Israel and the "jewish mob" will not free America from the Anglo-American Oligarchy and banksters to own the USA.

Blaming the Jews in entirety, actually helps the other members of the "system" and ensures Capitalism will continue enslaving America.

Perhaps you already know this and just choose to enlist the gullible to your criminal organization? I don't know.

Lookout's avatar

A lot of heavy stuff in here, but what lightens the scene is hearing the Polish communists chirping & listening to the Chihuahuas snapping at the mighty Russia's heels. The constant false accusations against Russia need a response, but not a verbal one. Find a way to make them pay.

Tim's avatar

The problem with western audiences - and indeed worldwide audiences - is that they have all swallowed the jewish poison about the so called "holocaust" and they all think that "nazis = Germans."

Whereas in truth, "nazis = jews."

Squeeth's avatar

No zionist = nazi, tell that to your haSSbara handler.

Dhdh's avatar

zionist = jew - one does not exist without the other....

John Osman's avatar

If the only Zionists were Jews, the Zionists wouldn't be as powerful as they are.

Lots of Christian Zionists exist.

Dhdh's avatar

lol. That old Jew trope.

Dhdh's avatar

Why no ‘Christian Zionist’ running the isreal government Jew John osman ?

John Osman's avatar

What's Trump? What's Biden? What's Obama? What's von der leyen, what's Starmer.?

And I I'd far, far rather be a Jew than a Nazi.

Lookout's avatar

Today the only real Nazis are the Ukrainian government and their Asov brigade.

Dhdh's avatar

no -"nazi" is the antidote to the jew. it is in an insult to NSDAP to try and equate them to the jew.

The jew is the genocidal sin merchant whose holidays celebrate genocide.

Opport Knocks's avatar

Correct. While the Zionists of today have a lot in common with methodology of the 3rd Reich, they should not be called Nazis.

The word Nazi started as a Jewish pejorative for members of the 3rd Reich. It was an abbreviation of Ignatius a name for a stupid clumsy person.

Lookout's avatar

Yes, we shouldn't use it as a pejorative for groups of people such as the Democrats do as a matter of course. I call the Democrats satanists, but they actually are. Christ said those who are not for me are against me. Christians amongst the Democrats are as scarce as hen's teeth.

I use Nazi for seriously bad individuals, like Keir Starmer & Jacinda Ardern.

Dhdh's avatar

So you have been brain washed to just equate Nazi with bad because that is what the Jew told you and you simple minded follow

Lookout's avatar

No its what history tells us, but your bias clouds your reasoning if you have any.

Dhdh's avatar

White people should be ethnically nepotistic like the Jew and exclude Jews and all other non whites to have a society

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Russian bear not only attacked by Baltic poodles, now a Polish Sausage dog. Frightening not.

If Umerov and Yermak go , the goblin is finished, only a matter of time for him now

Yoni Reinón's avatar

Brian Berletic clearly put it in a recent article. The war against Russia cannot end and will not end because is considered critical to harm China. Once Russia overextended, and deprived of oil exports by maritime blockade and refinery destruction, China will be blocked itself in Malacca, the Philippines, Taiwan and Japan, by a maritime siege where oil will nor go in a exports will not go out. This is what America First means to Trump, all those Fuentes, Carlson, MTG, et al, were the usuful idiots for the establishment of a world empire, not globalist but just American. Instead of America First, America Only, would have been more accurate. Now that the Ukranian collapse is looming, the next phase is ready. Ukraine will not be allowed to fall entirely. NATO troops on the ground west of the Dnipr, and Poland and the Baltics ready to be slaughtered. Russia must be kept busy until it tumbles and fall. In the meantime, Russia will be prevented to intervene in Africa or America. Its all a global domination strategy in which the Europeans are the proxies of the anglosaxons, British and American combined.

Jullianne's avatar

Berletic has a very simplistic view of the geo-politics, Yoni, that assumes a laughable degree of foresight and planning. As for continuing this war to harm China, you might have noticed that the real and immediate harm of this war is actually to the western alliance and its components states at all levels- to the point of internal collapse along various fault lines long before it or any other war Berletic foresees, brings down China. He is a nail and hammer guy.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

yes, maybe, but the west doesnt mind about its own population, which is actually their enemy. The drugs flood handled by all the western governments, especially the US, is intended to keep the people down and policed. This disposable character of the western population is thought to be a strategic advantage for world domination. This is the way the Pentagon, the British and NATO think, which collocates with Berletics views, about a long term strategy to stop China.

Jullianne's avatar

Disposable your people might be, IN PRINCIPLE. In practice they are a commodity with a non trivial value as anyone can see from the effect on Ukraine of bleeding out a whole generation. You can't print men like you can print money!

mary-lou's avatar

you know that, I know that, but try to tell that to Silicon Valley's transhumanist tech bros....

Frank Sailor's avatar

"Berletic has a very simplistic view of the geo-politics..."

I'd like to disagree on this one. He provides genuine documents and a coherent line of connected actions planned and done by the West. This is no 'view', this is documented planning, actions and connections.

This counterrevolution is running since 1917 with more or less intensity.

It's based on the fear that the masses stop believing that capitalism is in their own best interest. That's why the constant creation of instability, terror acts and lies spread amongst the vast network of western dominated press, television and internet.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

"This counterrevolution is running since 1917 with more or less intensity"

Absolutely. It is so obvious that it is ignored by many. Forest/tree thing I guess.

Concerned Celtiberian's avatar

Berletic has a very simplistic view of the geo-politics

LOL^100

Berletic’s analysis does make sense, unlike yours…

Jullianne's avatar

It is an ex post facto reconstruction of whatever happens, made to fit his model, like Icke's process, and like the whole global warning thing. These theses can never be proved wrong since whatever evidence you come up with can always be made to fit. That however makes them uninteresting- vast internally self consistent definitional constructs, clever but useless.

I don't do this modelling and so I can be just plain wrong. That is the risk of saying something verifiable in relation to unfolding of events.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Berletic provides copious "footnotes" for each of his podcasts. More than any other I've reviewed.

He's been on at least a half-dozen other podcasts including Glenn Deisen and The Duran and (IIRC) Judge Nap and Neutrality Studies.

You could declare that all of these groups are "just crazy conspiracy nuts".

I find them to be very coherent with what Simplicius offers.

The main reason you can't prove Berletic wrong is because he isn't.

Vinny Vanchesco's avatar

Comparing Berletic to Icke kinda says it all lol. Pull up, man!! Pull up!! Lol

Vinny Vanchesco's avatar

Wrong. Berletic's 'continuity of US agenda' arguments that see clearly through the distractive narrative are solid and supported and do suggest foresight and planning for beyond the pendulum swing of two-party politics. Blithely suggesting that Berletic's well researched and consistent analysis is simplistic and laughable says more about your own judgement than his.

Jullianne's avatar

I refer you to my reply to CC.

That said, it might just be that writing from the far east (he lives in Thailand) he has to keep pushing a Far Eastern perspective to keep his native audience involved.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Why do you double down on ignorance. Yes, he lives in Thailand which provides him with a unique perspective and on-the-ground information with access to the local population.

Jullianne's avatar

Maybe so but I have never heard him use that. He relies on think tanks and all sorts of weird supra-national entities. And of course the usual suspects... Blackrock, Raytheon....blah.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Then you haven't been listening to him.

ron's avatar

Jullianne

You write as if the gradual reduction in the capability of the western alliance is a necessarily bad thing. The destruction of the British Empire during and after the second world was correctly viewed as a good thing for America once established.

Jullianne's avatar

Gosh. Is that how you read me? I never intended that. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

"Good" for the "Anglo-American Oligarchy" which just moved from Britain to the USA.

Krainer (and many others) still insist that the HQ is the City of London and that Wall Street merely subsidiaries.

"All wars are bankers wars". If you don't understand this dictum, you will never understand why the wars are happening.

Once again, if you haven't listened to Aaron Good's 24 hour series on "Empire and the Deep State" on YouTube, you are missing a major concept. A solid foundation that explains the conflict between the classes.

mary-lou's avatar

when it's available on utube, it's pre-programmed and allowed to be seen. where's the pinch of salt....

JohnOnKaui's avatar

I'm going to assume you can't find it.

Here's Ben Norton interviewing Good: (I confess I haven't seen this completely, but a great intro to who Good is.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY82b8hC7JQ&

This is an intro to Good's series. He explains why he abandoned Obama and why he got into this mess with his "American Exception" series and the "Gray Alliance" series.

Here's the American Exception series I always recommend to everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDAi0NdlN8hNArLl765PXe8tsTKmOciGL

thatguy's avatar

Yeah, that obsessive "City of London" crap is just more dust in the eyes, pure obfuscation. As if one geographical square mile is really the central control point. Magic Dirt theory, really.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Consider the bank that's there.

I subscribe to the "all wars are bankers wars" theory.

While it is certainly more complicated than that, without the money nothing happens.

thatguy's avatar

Totally agree that all wars are banker's wars. I'm a man who has read both Smedley Butler and John Perkins. Love those books.

thatguy's avatar

The whole "City of London" schtick is another way of trying to focus blame on one small thing while ignoring the globalist nature of the big-finance control matrix. It is basically another excuse for US perfidy.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Berletic's "continuity of agenda" theme is solid and very explanatory of events as they unfold.

I subscribe to his "big picture" and if anything it isn't "big enough".

The ultimate goal of the "Anglo-American Oligarchy/'Deep State'/ Jewish mob" has always been Empire and "king of the hill". One need not plan decades, or even years, in advance to pursue that goal -- especially since the "components or members" of this group are all individual players with their own aspirations.

You dismiss Berletic because you can't see anything beyond some totally organized evil consortium that must plan things out.

Take the creation of Israel, how many decades did that take?

The war isn't "continuing" to China. China is already in the crosshairs.

Your view is the "simplistic" one.

thatguy's avatar

Berletic brings all of the receipts. Those like you who denigrate him, and denigrate the facts that he brings, seem to be trolls when they do that. Many politically partisan people dislike Berletic because they want to continue to believe that US politicians like Trump or Obama are "saviors". Brian Berletic brings it with the receipts, no holds barred against any US politician dem or rep, and he has over 300k subscribers.

Robert's avatar

Malacca is not possible without the assistance of Indonesia and Malaysia, which have a history of neutrality.

If it does turn into a war against merchant shipping, then low tech sea drones, mines and missiles will impact US, EU, Japanese, Taiwanese, Philippino and Korean trade while China and Russia can use BRI and North-South corridor land routes.

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Yoni Reinón's avatar

yes of course. They're trying any exit possible. When you see a map of China one is shocked by how closed to the sea this huge country is. Myanmar is another mostly unnoticed war going on as we speak, another battle in this global III World War for absolute power. The Bangladesh color revolution is intimately linked to the Myanmar war, since the Royinka muslims (another branch of the imperial islamic legions, ISIS, Al Quaeda, etc) have their safe bases along the frontier to attack Myanmar. Anyway, the anglosaxon maritime empire is assuming that sieging the continental Behemoths, the rest of the blue waters will belong to them, which is not evident. First, there is air transport, land transport and information circulation, satellite and wired. Of course they're working to siege that fields too. There are also the new Russians intercontinental unlimited ranged weapons, which change the game. And last and foremost, there is a clear awareness of both China and Russia of the reality of the situation, and the ineluctability to multiply their connexions, establishing a land hardcore of about 30 million km2, including Kazahstan and Mongolia, from where other territories like Iran, Central Asia, South East Asia, Eastern Europe, East Africa and parts of de Middle West can be tributary and willing to be connected to the heartland. The US will at least be able to assymilate the whole Americas, from pole to pole. Brasilian elites are duplicitous and not a rival to the US.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

South America is open to China's BRI. I agree with you about Brazilian elites, but then the Venezuelan elites were kicked out. Nicaragua is still independent. Columbia is aligning with Venezuela.

Lots of "hopium" here, but not totally impossible.

You didn't mention BRICS or Burkina Faso. Not that you should have but, I dunno, unless people pay attention, they just focus on Ukraine and think that they know Russia is losing.

Yoni Reinón's avatar

Your take is good. Nevertheless, dont underestimate the stupidity of the imperial high command. Their jobs depend on how well they present a victory on China. Losses will be taken, of course, but the western ruled populaces are considered disposable cheap meat.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Look into the reorganization of the Marine Corp. It is set now to establish blockade units stretched across several islands.

Robert's avatar

On Indonesian or Malaysian islands? The US will need the cooperation of both countries.

Robert's avatar

Never going to happen. Indonesia is a full member of BRICS+, and Malaysia is a partner country. Indonesia takes it's independence seriously, as a founding member of the non-aligned states, and Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia all respect China, their largest trading partner. ASEAN will sit out any US-China conflict.

The US trying to militarily impose a blockade will be a nightmare, as piracy was hard enough to suppress.

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Neo con crack at best. There is a small matter of capability, which the uS and assorted satraps entirely lack

GM's avatar
Nov 19Edited

>The war against Russia cannot end and will not end because is considered critical to harm China

That is not the main reason. It is a reason, but the main reason is that they are just picking off from where they left with Operation Barbarossa, with the lessons from its failure learned and corrected.

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Insight +++++, is the dope kicking in ?

Tim's avatar
Nov 19Edited

This "anglosaxons" theme, as used by Russian politicians too, hopelessly misinterprets what is really going on.

Both of these anglosaxon empires are completely subverted by jews - the word that dare not speak its name.

jews make no secret of their belief that one day they will rule the world with a Rod of Iron, and each jew will have 2700 goyische slaves, whether sexual or financial.

Behind the curtain, as always, "cherchez le juif."

jimmyboy's avatar

I think you overestimate the situation here in Britain.

We are a Bankrupt divided nation. No one is going to fight Russia, our army is composed of roughly 20 000 at most combat troops. We are a pesky jack russel snapping at the Russians.

Once Russia steps up and incinerates the first troops who appear, we will give in, guaranteed. There is no public support for war with Russia anywhere in Europe. As President Putin said we haven't really started anything yet.

John Osman's avatar

I completely agree Jimmyboy.

We might be intensely irritating, but we're also completely irrelevant.

Feral Finster's avatar

Not just britons, but europeans in general are the biggest metrosexual wimps on the plant, not to mention old.

Everyone already knows that, however, the goal is to get Americans to do europe's fighting for them. Like in 1917, 1941, 1949, 1999 and 2011.

thatguy's avatar

Yep. Just like 1917 and 1942. You and him fight until you are all exhausted and bombed out and starving, then we will come in late and "win the war". With flowers laid at our jackbooted feet.

Feral Finster's avatar

The idea that the US started wwi or wwii is silly.

thatguy's avatar

Agreed. The idea of "magic soil" and the sovereignty of western nation-states is indeed silly. It is organized at a much higher level.

Johnny Rodriguez's avatar

As if American boys inspired by the strong leadership are gonna die for the course. In WWI there were Belgian women massacred by hans, as well as their babies according to American propaganda at the time, still the Americans showed up 3 years late in the game. WWII had the same pattern in the European theater - only in the summer of 1944 the second front landed on the beaches of Normandy. Congrats on beating the commies in Greece in 1949. NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 with depleted uranium is not something positive on your record of forking conquests. And, frankly, darling, 2011 Arab spring events initiated by - oh gosh who it might be - or killing whatever monster you created that time around was not fighting or dying.

Besides the Russian-Ukranian war there won't be any fighting in Europe this time around or anywhere near the Gulf of America one way or another, I cannot emphasize it enough.

Feral Finster's avatar

Remember "He kept your boys out of war!" in 1917?

"I will not send your boys abroad!" in 1940?

Remember Goering's words on the subject.

Jullianne's avatar

Hyping up Russia as a national security threat to states all over europe enables those states to apply national security measures to silence their people on the matter as in suppress any public protest, and in particular to censor their mainstream media.

That said there is a general public indifference born of the belief that so what if the coffers are being emptied on this war? Even if they weren't they would not be spent on us! So long as these governments don't start making their people fight for them this supine indifference will persist.

Jullianne's avatar

If you want some light relief, watching MBS comfortably surfing the risible Trump agenda, is a sight to see. Kashoggi, who?

Sam Ursu's avatar

yah when journos mentioned Kashoggi's name, he went off on some weird tangent about Osama bin Laden (wtf?)

Hussein Hopper's avatar

Probably related to him , as Saudi’s are. All Saudi’s look alike to trump, he just sees dollar signs

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Sam Ursu

Why wouldn't Trump go off on a tangent about Osama bin Laden? Clearly you don't know who Kashoggi really was. Hint .....he was *not* some hard working D.C. journalist who happens to have an Arabic type name. He was *not* a progressive dissident rising up from the streets demanding a liberalization of Saudi society.

ikester8's avatar

And? That meant he deserved to be dismembered alive?

ron's avatar

Who told you he was still alive when dismembered? Whoever they were, they had some sort of agenda since I strongly doubt you personally had any contact with anyone who was there or even was close to anyone who was there.

At any rate, Kashoggi would happily have seen you dismembered alive if it suited the interests of those he supported. I refer you to the original comment about Trump going off on what seemed to be irrelevant remarks from Trump about Osama Bin Laden. Kashoggi was at least subscribing to the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of relationship with Al Qaeda. By subscribing I mean providing large sums of money.

ikester8's avatar

That was my recollection at the time, but it seems I was mistaken, at least according to the prosecuting attorney.

ron's avatar

In response to your reply that showed up in my email but not here in this thread as I look at it.......I have no doubt he was tortured. There was a reason why he was lured to the consulate rather than quietly or dramatically killed elsewhere.

Femi Akomolafe's avatar

Europe’s Circus of Lunatic Fools

In early October, I wrote a piece entitled, A Polemic on EU’s Unhinged Leaders, in which I wrote inter alia: To watch the European Union’s so-called “leaders” strut about the global stage is to witness a theater of the absurd — a tragicomedy by pompous, uneducated, uncultured clowns who mistake their incompetence for statesmanship—they do so without a sense of shame or irony.

These self-regarding mental midgets posture with the gravity of emperors but wield the wisdom of village drunks, dragging a whole continent toward a precipice while applauding themselves for their genius.

It is beyond belief that the clowns cannot see how ridiculous they appear as they pose for their ritualistic photo-ops.

A sane mind would ask why this gaggle of barely-legitimate incompetandos would not try to fix the gigantic social, political, and economic problems in their countries instead of dazzling us with their buffoonery in their doomed attempt at conquering Russia and its immense wealth…”

Rather than apply some brakes and use a little bit of wisdom and common sense, the lunatics in Brussels double down on their idiocy.

In their latest bout of insanity fueled stupidity, the unicellular brainpower of these cretins generated and circulated a 12-point peace plan initiated by Finland to be approved and presented to Moscow.

The plan, for lack of a better word, calls for the virtual capitulation of Russia.

The first question any functioning brain would ask is, since when do losers dictate the terms of peace to victors? In which military academy, except perhaps one for the clinically insane, do they teach the type of nonsense emitted by the inebriated brains of these unelected and, we repeat, uneducated EUcrats?

The action of these insane Brussels Braniacs is like that of a drunkard who picks a fight in a bar, gets badly pummeled, dusts himself up, and demands that his opponent apologize and buy him a drink.

To read this 12-point delusion is to enter the mind of a civilization in terminal decay and convincingly demonstrate that there is no longer any doubt that EU officials have lost all connection with reality and that they inhabit their self-constructed bubble.

Among their demands, the EU wants Russia to withdraw from the territories that voted overwhelmingly to join it—Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson. They even demand that Russia hand back Crimea, as if it were a loaf of bread taken by mistake.

How insane.

Read the full article here: https://femiakogun.substack.com/p/europes-circus-of-lunatic-fools

©️ Fẹ̀mi Akọ̀mọ̀‌làfẹ̀ (1st Dan)

Blog: https://femiakogun.substack.com

My Mission: Ignorantia et stultitia delendae sunt / Ignorance and stupidity must be destroyed.

Penelope Pnortney's avatar

It really is mind-boggling, watching their compounding one stupid idea with another and another and another. And yes, absolutely disconnected from reality. But I imagine it's a lot more fun and fitting for their exaggerated sense of self-importance to globetrot with their like-minded moronic counterparts, drink and eat and share fantasies about their importance and power than it is to stay home and fix the problems they've wrought on their own people and the sovereignty and viability of their own country.

Femi Akomolafe's avatar

The question is, given their history of causing World Wars, for how long would Europe's madness run before we are plunged into another global war, which may put an end to life on earth?

Penelope Pnortney's avatar

If they don't, it won't be for lack of trying. That's the scary part.

Feral Finster's avatar

Why shouldn't they? The rulers themselves pay np price, and as for the euro-peon class, who cares?

You think a farmer worries about the happiness of his chickens, mourns their deaths or worries himself over whether they would rather be McNuggets or perhaps some other dish?

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Is it not more scarier that the European leaders are not unhinged, insane, stupid and has well functioning brains?

It is a big mistake to think they are unhinged or that all this is going on because of stupidity.

Big mistake.

Think instead of this emanate from clear-thinking evil brains….

Femi Akomolafe's avatar

We should expect even evil brains to obey the laws of biology - the principle of self-preservation. The European elite have ruined their societies.

Take a look at the dirty mess Paris has become.

Mikey Johnson's avatar

A cesspool indeed. And by design! If that isnt evil I dont know what evil is.

Feral Finster's avatar

Europe is ruined for the middle class and the poors, but the rulers don't care. They are easily manipulated, easily disposed of.

The rulers are still swanning about from star-studded gala to summit to "global empowerment seminar" to cabinet meeting or whatever, first class all the way.

Chip Worley's avatar

EXCELLENT post and apt description of the EU "leaders"... Chip

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Now, why do you think these incompetents were able to reach the pinnacle of EU government?

The "simplest answer" is the "Anglo-American Oligarchy/"Deep State"/"organized crime""

And that is hardly simple.

Follow the money!

Feral Finster's avatar

The euroweenies know exactly what they are doing, which is to try and bait the United States into doing their fighting for them.

Again.

Jullianne's avatar

All this psyop about NATO preparing for war is just another punt at terrifying Russia to the negotiating table to do a last minute western favourable deal.

Prove me wrong and put your boots where your mouths are. Get going with a full-on combined warfare covered march to the Russian front (without US backing natch, since Trump has a fine sense of self preservation). Russia has had significant success in picking off merc groupings so far, and practice makes perfect. If you really want to make all those daft threats of Russia ruling the entire european continent, true, this is the way to go.

Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Next they'll be offering a "Peace Plan" to Russia like they just did to Hamas in Gaza in which the first of the 20 or something point plan will be the full and immediate demilitarization of Russia.