Last night Russia unleashed another large-scale attack on Kiev, targeting various defense enterprises as well as a major warehouse for Ukrainian supermarket goods, which appeared to burn down to the ground:
Discernment as a necessary duty of adults. That is good. Both discernment and obligation to duty are sorely lacking in our "democracy". Functional, real democracy cannot exist without both of those things.
American Revolutionary War (1775–1783)Estimated Deaths: ~25,000
U.S. Population (approx.): 2.5 million
Percent of Population: ~1.0%
War of 1812 (1812–1815)Estimated Deaths: ~15,000U.S. Population (approx.): 7.5 millionPercent of Population: ~0.2%Mexican-American War (1846–1848)Estimated Deaths: ~13,000U.S. Population (approx.): 21 millionPercent of Population: ~0.06%American Civil War (1861–1865)Estimated Deaths: ~620,000 to 750,000 (Union and Confederate combined)U.S. Population (approx.): 31.4 millionPercent of Population: ~2.0%Spanish-American War (1898)Estimated Deaths: ~2,446U.S. Population (approx.): 73 millionPercent of Population: ~0.003%World War I (1917–1918)Estimated Deaths: ~116,500U.S. Population (approx.): 103 millionPercent of Population: ~0.11%World War II (1941–1945)Estimated Deaths: ~405,000U.S. Population (approx.): 133 millionPercent of Population: ~0.30%Korean War (1950–1953)Estimated Deaths: ~36,500U.S. Population (approx.): 152 millionPercent of Population: ~0.02%Vietnam War (1964–1975)Estimated Deaths: ~58,200U.S. Population (approx.): 199 millionPercent of Population: ~0.03%
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like if the US civilian population was still as warlike as it was back in the 19th century. We seem relatively pacified nowdays, accusations to the contrary notwithstanding.
Shortly after antibiotics + decent trauma surgery arrived after WWII and children began routinely surviving to adulthood, certain things changed? Correlation isn't causation, but still.
Never graciously concede anything, that's way too Queensbury Rules these days. Be like Trump, blame Victor for stealing first which only you rightly deserve, because, in fact, you invented being first. Nobody has ever been more first than you. Victor stole it from you because he's really Joe Biden.
Are you sure I did invent being first? I think it was arguably ‘The Spectre’, whose modus operandi includes rushing to leave a first message, then editing it out to give his own take on things from a vantage point of visibility (the first message)
I saw Denis use that same technique once or twice before The Spectre became the bestest firster ever. Denis got some guff for it. His "first" posts grew from one word to very long essays over time. One was totally off-topic, an essay about Putin-bad (iirc) on an Iran or Gaza topic on which Simplicius didn’t even mention Russia once.
And yes, I know you didn't invent being first. I was just trying to be funny saying what you should say, if you wanted to act like Trump in this situation. Maybe I needed the 'ol /sarc tag on that one!
Has anyone actually bothered to keep score of the firsts? That would probably be embarrassing to admit if they did. Offhand, I think The Spectre would be right up there pretty close to Victor Joe.
The next stage of 3 WW is coming at the end of this year.
No matter what are Iran-USA diplomatic talks, Iran will be nuked, by hands of Israel. Bushehr nuclear power plant will be dirty bombed, it will explode, with 72 tons of active material loaded in reactors and 200 tons spend fuel stored on site. Americans will use flesh rotting chemical weapons, gas bombs on civilians - all not reported and later under-reported by the Western mass media. Death in tens millions, hell in hell. Mass migration in ten/hundred millions from the Middle East, out of total 500 mln population.
Israel enters into Great Israel stage, the map Natanyahu shown at UN plenary session on 22 September 2023. And beyond those borders. With false Messiah pointed by them, just to get all those mad evangelical Christians in the USA and everywhere else, who are all Zionists, on their side.
If Trump doesn’t follow, he will be poisoned. His son Barron becoming interim president.
Pivotal in this war will be a new player, but not a superpower, Turkiye. It will leave NATO and associate with Russia and Pakistan for nuclear umbrella.
Russia and/or Pakistan will nuke Israel, to prevent them from using remaining bombs on Turkiye and elsewhere.
There would be immediately hot front on NATO East border. Six countries will be at active war. Large American armaments will be coming, they will send all they have, and they still have a lot - bar nukes. Zaporozhe nuclear power plant, the largest in Europe, will be once again bombed, but this time at critical danger level. All borders in Europe shut and with full military mobilisation, to prevent mass migration from Ukrainian and Middle East humanitarian disaster and stop deserters, conscripts from war countries.
It will be a very fast paced war, with many war theatres around the glob, will end
Chine will try to stay away as far as possible. To prevent nuclear war they will use biological weapon, highly deadly pandemic, with not known medicines to cure. All active fronts and any military activity will cease. Putin single-handedly stopped Covid, which was just socio-engineering, by war on Banderites, Xi will stop nuclear war with ensuring nuclear winter, by real mass death. That will save humanity for 1-2 generations, when the 4 WW will annihilate 99% of us.
The CNN report was interesting because obviously staged: who would leave an empty patriot unit in the open air? To create a nice multi-million dollar target for Russian forces?
the Ukrainians would. Tanks, launchers. Hey, if the stuff comes free (except for your life) why risk yourself trying to get it? The Russians will soon take it out if it has not.
Why waste a missile or drone on it? Anything moving is subject to attack so there is no practical way to resupply right? Not like the Patriot can hit the broadside of a barn. The Russians might even have it zeroed in and waiting for some retard to resupply so they can blow it up.
The patriot unit and its interceptor are junk. Theodore Postol Professor at MIT has shown that the effectiveness of its missiles is $4 million dollars a pop with a 3% success rating. The only thing that is hurt by patriot missiles is the poor taxpayers in the US and the 40 trillion-dollar deficit with the coming inflation.
Very much so; however, the Patriots remain effective against relatively slow moving cruise missiles and aircraft, so having them keeps Russian bombers away from Kyiv.
Its' closer to $6 million, each. They are effective against drones, and they make massive profits for the permanent donor class. The economic idiocy and lack of relevance in calculations to prevail in any real conflict has not been a consideration since WWII. When our country goes over the economic cliff into mass currency debasement, what and where will the wealthy kleptocrats convert their money to?
CNN AND ALL the others are CIA embedded entities with the facade of news informers ie 70% bullshit and 30% lies . Obviously the parents of many in the usa should never have become parents because they did a horrific job .
The russians still need to solve the drone problem. A year ago I was expecting Russia to be launching 1k drones a night. I am surprised its actually the other way around. Further, given that ukraine is broadening the target list to "anything", it is not actually possible to have AD dense enough to stop everything
Even if your AD is almost perfect, its still thousands of drones of debris falling each week, thousands of interceptor missiles flying, etc
The answer I suppose is oreshnik into the production facilities all over europe. But likely they dont have enough at this stage
A European war is inevitable. But not yet. Russia will accept the limited damage by the drones until Ukraine forces are pushed out of the four new Russian regions and the capture of Odessa. At that point we might see a decision to attack all drone manufacturing plants in Europe, followed by a Russian offer of peace based on a new pan-European Security Agreement - that, or full-on war. I think I know what the Europeans, cowards that they are, will choose, even in the face of American pressure.
Is there any evidence that there have been any "low profile agent actions on hostile manufacturing sites" by Russia within EU countries? I haven't seen any evidence of that (yet).
EU media and public (un)elected officials would shout about it as loud as they could if there were any credible evidence of this, because it would be able to use that to whip up even more Russia-hate and send more money to Ukraine.
Sounds like people are jumping to hopeful conclusions based on flimsy evidence, ie grabbing at straws.
I'm not saying its impossible that Russian secret agents are causing a few fires at some manufacturing sites in Europe, but I think its unlikely mainly because as stated, European and US media and officialdom would be shouting about it nonstop and using that evidence as another excuse to call Putin a "monster" and whip up the Russophobia to even higher levels than it is now.
A different theory: if these fires are indeed at munitions factories, a statistically higher level of fires in recent weeks/months might be the less click-baity result of trying to ramp up production much too quickly. This means hastily installing new and untested production lines, and hiring brand new and untrained workers off the street. In these situations at industrial facilities, accidents are always statistically higher.
Previously, blaming Russia for the bad smell coming out of your ass was in vogue, because it meant nothing but headlines. Now, formally pinning acts of sabotage on Russia carries a political cost, unless saying is followed by doing, escalation and retaliation.
It would undermine the narrative of EU being safe and insulated from the conflict, and spawn increasing numbers of GM-equivalent entities, demanding that Europe get even deeper involved in Ukraine (good luck with that), as well as agitate peaceniks and those in favor of withdrawal and course-correction.
Not saying that it is a case of Russian sabotage, but that in the current situation, there are very pragmatic reasons for blaming anyone and anything but Russia, even if Russia is implicated, because shouting about it non-stop now ironically has consequences, where before, it did not.
I think that Russia is almost certainly behind much of that - there is no evidence because they leave no evidence, at least the kind of evidence that would point to them.
For normal humans, it is certainly common sense, but for European leaders who constantly boast of their superiority over Russia, it is outright cowardice.
Yep. It's purely "let's you and him fight". Proxy wars seem cowardly. But it's also "common sense" if it keeps working and the proxy states keep bending over.
Instead of directly attacking EU land (potentially triggering article 5), Russia could begin causing chaos in shipping in the Baltic sea and eastern Mediterranean using drones. The EU is dependent on merchant shipping for trade. While Russia could seize EU ships in the Pacific ocean, there would be too few to be worthwhile.
Problem with A5 is that Europe has nothing of substance to respond with.
What we need is root-and-branch change of EU leadership; and a return to more sensible times when each nation made its own decisions based on national interest, not the interest of globalist lunatics.
And the US will not respond to an article 5 declaration - not in their interests - in fact, against their interests.
Not sure we will ever get a change of European leadership - at least not in a good direction - leadership changes in Europe are similar to the US - the new just gets dumber, stupider, greedier and more puppetised (is that really a word?).
The Oxford English Dictionary gives "puppetish", so why not "puppetise"? "Dummer" is a village in north Hampshire, BTW, the word you are looking for is "dumber".
the US is in major domestic turmoil now. nearing civil war proportions, with two segments of the population at virtual war with each other. We are groaning with the weight of debt and our weapons are outdated. Why update when you can easily terrorize the world with the old stuff? But there is a nascent antiwar movement starting here, against this and all the other wars the USG can be counted on (under either party) to provide the Warmakers.
NATO is ALREADY IN THE WAR...wtf is it going to take to realize this?
What ADDITIONAL SHIT does RF think NATO is going to bring to bear? In fact, TRIGGERING Article 5 to open war would HELP THEM as then they might grow the necessary fucking balls to SHOOT DOWN any ISR birds near their territory
It really is Victor. Me mum was in love with a Hollywood screen star back in the 40s whose name was Victor Mature - sadly for her I didn't turn out like him.
And to think I thought she called you that because there was a child's comic lying on the floor when she was thinking up a name for her latest creation.
If I understand you correctly, Russia will brush off whatever Ukraine throws at their Motherland, keep the slow push out from the four designated Oblasts and sometime in the future even take Odessa (oblast or city)?
Only when that is achieved they will simultaneously attack European Drone manufacturing plants and offer peace formed by a new Security Agreement.
If no, full War (with Europe and/or US as well)?
And if Europeans are cowards they will agree and thus War is not inevitable?
I think it is a mistake to draw lines of development of the War according to what has been and seems to be the continuation. I think your idea of the future is more wishful than realistic.
There are numerous unseen events and unimaginable developments/twist&turns to happen yet. And they are certainly formed by what happens in other theaters of War (Mid-East, Cuba, Korea) and of Black Swan events (coup in Ukraine, Trumpie leave by other means, Putin fall ill, Israel nuke Iran)
The most obvious new threats/opportunities would be a blockade of the Baltic Sea for Russian ships other than military. Russia dont have enough Naval force to protect every single ship. The Erdogan enigma is another, helping Ukraine with one hand and threatening Israel with the other. Can it escalate?
The US/little brits are working hard in Caucasus - will something change dramatically and threaten Russias underbelly?
Will Musk cave in on Starlink use over Russia, enabling ballistics and drones to go everywhere? Or will Trump concentrate on Iran and dump Ukraine on Europe?
That Russia will be able to take Odessa is in the 1:1000 odds and the long promised ”thousands cuts will eventually break Ukraine” is another 1:100.
The only way to ”break” anything is numerous events developing simultaneously and with sudden, unexpected, shocking impact to the minds of both Ukrainians and European leaders. As of now everyone knows what happens and going to happen thanks to the ISR and transparancy of the front. The side that can use that ”lull” to its advantage can break something.
you see, once Russia takes quite a bit more than the four oblasts, plus Odessa and Kiev, there will be no more cover for NATO aggression. Any attacks on Russia would then trigger a massive reprisal on those kinds of war toys industries you cite. That's my own view.
Good question. I believe they would want to ensure that they have met their minimum territorial requirements before they risk expanding the war (actually, their minimum requirements don't include Odessa, but I think they will take the city anyway). They want to be certain they have complete control first.
Just my opinion. I haven't yet discussed this with Vladimir.
Russia prefers missiles now. They have tremendous pow power. Even the Ukrainians are starting to see how limited drone damage is, when what they want is to blow up Moscow. Hence all the whining, they need the full western arsenal including nukes because (rich, this one) Ukraine is the savior of the EU and all civilization. Sieg you-know-who. The fact is the the fools of the UK who are moving the hand of the Ukrainian proxy have already brought the UK into the war's crosshairs. And the UK is massively vulnerable. Not a whole continent, like some, but just a collection of rocks and islands. Others may be more hesitant to join them once that goes hot. And nobody has the weapons the Kievan puppets want, nor the weapons they themselves will certainly need if they are to wage war on Russia. And Kiev had best hurry to destroy Moscow, because Moscow will soon be blowing up Kiev.
Missiles are better than drones, but saying drones are ineffective is wrong. A lot of damage has been done by them. Yes the ratio is heavily against ukr but one country goes around the world telling everyone that they are fighting for their lives and the other is talking about inflation and economic growth and normal life. Ergo, every strike is one too many.
of course, they do sometimes big damage. but they don’t take out Moscow. For that he needs France and Germany and America to fly their bombers into Ukraine and straight on to Russia. Drugs. Zelensky should be an anti-drug public service announcement.
The perfidious Albion will behave perfidiously until its ungodly empire of offshore accounts is Kaput. All attention should be paid to usurers’ nests and the war profiteers like Blairs and Arbuthnots.
Most of those drones over Russia are taken out by Panzir units. A simple radar guided set of four heavy machine guns on a single mount manned by a tiny crew. Once placed on a carrier they are cheap to have built and almost free to operate.
You actually can cover a lot of territory simply by putting a thousand such units in place in a region and a surveillance system that lets you know when the drones are coming and from what general direction.
The Russians don't have four thousand machine guns to place in in a four gun assembly and load each four gun system on a reinforced pickup, or the ability to manufacture them in short order? The Soviet Red Army didn't have thousands probably tens of thousands machine guns stored away? The Russians seemingly have thousands of missiles, tens of thousands of drones and millions of artillery shells but are stymied by putting a thousand four machine gun systems together in one region far from the front lines?
L.O.L. Russia won't or can't make machine guns. Machine guns can't take down low flying drones. Hell, they can take them down with shotguns sometimes, forget about machine guns.
Russia has thousands of tank left over from the Soviet times but no machine guns. It can produce more artillery shells than all of NATO combined. It can produce more advanced drones that all of NATO combined. It can produce more ballistic missile than all of NATO combined. It can produce more hypersonic missiles than all of NATO combined. But they can't make machine guns at scale. Riiiiiight!
Russian AD is not ineffective, but still seems adhoc. Once drones get past the border approaches into the interior, the AD task becomes much more difficult.
Perhaps years from now we will learn the real story about Russian AD. To me it seems disorganized and resource starved and uncoordinated. But of course what can I know.
War is changing. New tech and new arithmetic eliminates the post WW2 delusion that war should properly be a contest between uniformed militaries. Now we must recognize that war is a contest between entire societies, economies and production.
The logical conclusion of the way things are going is precision drone attacks of 10's of thousands of weapons driven by fusion of multiple sensor and intelligence sources to identify chains of targets that make up the lines of communications, transport, sustainment of entire economies. The aim will be to destroy entire chains rather then end nodes.
Nuclear weapons achieved this through a relative few massive explosions. The same effect might be achieved by a million smaller, well aimed explosions.
Thus mastering air defense will be strategically vital. But Russia, being resource constrained, seems unable to devote sufficient resources to this and to the offense simultaneously.
The future also points to increasing emphasis on dispersal, resilience and economic self sufficiency even at the cost of efficiency. The end of globalization and perhaps even a slow reversal of the focus on global trade as national destiny that has characterized the last 300 years.
It’s not a mystery at all but rather simple arithmetic. Russia can cover any area or vector just not every area and vector. The country’s vast and the targets are basically infinite once you include every civilian object or enterprise. Many drones are smuggled or assembled inside Russia so they arrive from unexpected vectors. One can easily calculate the number of each type of AD systems are necessary to defend an area. Now count up the number of areas. There are just not enough systems.
And even when an area is defended it’s a numbers game that favors the attacker. Look at all the missile warfare that has gone on in the last 3 years - attackers can saturate even the best AD systems and get a leaker through.
They have not even done what Ukranus did which is install a network of acoustic sensors along the border and at echelons to assist in getting aerial radar aloft to then fix and target the incursions.
What I just described is literally what AFU does...in addition, because of NATO's MASSIVE ISR overmatch, the west knows every single time any missile carrier launches, anywhere
Unfortunately for your theory, Ukraine's major cities are getting attacked every night by hundreds of drone/missile combos and even the Ukrainians acknowledge they can't defend against them. The reason they acknowledge that is because everyone on the ground can see them coming in day and night with no noticeable interception going on.
Acoustic sensors??!!?? There are really cheap acoustic sensors all over the place in Ukraine. They are called human beings. They are all quite capable of phoning someone and say.....I hear hundreds of drones going overhead heading your way, in case anyone is interested.....
However, I don't doubt that someone in Ukraine got some dumb bunnies in the West to hand that someone a large sum of money to install such systems.
Ukranus is getting hit by at most a couple dozen ballistic missiles.
this is shock & awe. It is not volume. Geran launches are routinely in the 100ish range and YES, Ukranus CAN and DOES shoot most of these down.
The Ukrainiacs' "acknowledging"...motherfucker, you have no fucking clue what tf the Ukrainiacs do or do not acknowledge nor are you conversant enough on this topic to be able to distinguish between the technical complexity and necessary equipment to intercept a drone vs a low hypersonic ballistic vehicle.
Despite these so-called "free sensors" you talk about, Russia's Soyuz plant got hit by TWO FP5s.
AFU struck some critical component production step in the supply chain of Gerans. This is the only explanation that is rational. The sole hypothesis that fits the facts and which is not fantastical like mfing copers saying RF is "saving up for a mega mega massive strike"- they have to use 2 megas now bc they were saying for the past few weeks it was a mega strike coming.
A few Oreshniks at the right time would have solved this or else escalated to full scale war which is going to soon be Russia's only option
but this dithering and waiting means that critical capabilities they would need for such a war, they now LACK
so the fact that Russia has fired 3 of them already...what DO they do then? Or are you claiming that they're so ineffective that using them on appropriate targets outside of Ukranus would have done nothing?
The fucking thing is BUILT TO STRIKE EUROPE. That is the PURPOSE of the missile.
you freakin people see ONE WORD "oreshnik" and your brain goes into convulsions like somehow mere mention of this system makes you ignore EVERYTHING ELSE a person wrote.
What "such stuff" would I not write? Everything I said was true.
It is you that writes as if the Oreshnik is some kind of wonder weapon. It is a very expensive weapon suitable for a specific type of target. It is not a game changer any more than the Abrams tank is.
It is in fact game changer because it undoes some of the damage of the INF treaty and restores a bit of the strategic balance in Europe.
But that is all dependent on someone having the balls to use it as intended.
BTW, there likely is no non-nuclear Oreshnik and its sole purpose is to deliver 6 to 36 nukes somewhere in Europe. Maybe a bit further (Medvedev had a slip on that in one of his posts).
It certainlys makes very little sense as a kinetic weapon
In a nuclear exchange where thousands of massive nukes are flying each way, a relatively small number of specific delivery systems won't make the slightest difference to the outcome.
According to Russian, Ukrainian, NATO sources the Oreshnik has already been used in Ukraine at least once and believed to have been used a second time.
Curiously, Almaz Antery is talking about export of OWA drones now, because production was now sufficient to cover both the needs of the war and foreign demand:
⚡️Almaz-Antey Launches Serial Production of the Harpia-A1 for the Global Market.
The Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern has launched serial production of the Harpia-A1 (E) unmanned aerial vehicle and is ready to fulfill export contracts. Rosoboronexport Director General Alexander Mikheev announced this on August 21.
He stated that the company has reached a production level that allows it to fulfill orders from foreign customers within competitive timeframes without compromising the country's defense capability.
The Harpia-A1 (E) is a loitering munition with a stated range of up to 1,000 km. It can carry a warhead weighing over 50 kg with a probable circular error of no more than 4 m.
The drone has a flying wing configuration with a pusher propeller. The fuselage is 3.4 m long, the wingspan is 3 m, and the takeoff weight is 250 kg. The device reaches speeds of at least 170 km/h, remains airborne for up to six hours, and is capable of engaging stationary targets with specified coordinates at altitudes ranging from 50 to 2,500 meters.
Mikheyev noted that the system has already attracted interest from foreign customers. Rosoboronexport is also prepared to discuss localizing the production of the Harpia-A1 (E) in countries friendly to Russia.
"...what to expect from Ukraine in the coming months. The closer Ukraine comes to battlefield defeat, the more it will redirect all of its available resources to targeting Russian civilian infrastructure in order to spur some kind of popular uprising of discontent against Putin."
This is from a familiar playbook, isn't it? Sounds kinda Western to me. It is the plan of an immoral bully who does not know how to accept defeat, nor care about human life.
Reminds me of the Battle of Britain story. A British bombing raid on Berlin caused an enraged Hitler to foolishly divert bombing from military targets to London. The British were steadfast and Germany lost.
No - a months'- long concentration of bombing raids on German cities - a war crime never properly accounted for or punished.
Hitler held off on retaliation for six weeks whilst the criminal Churchill and his henchman and executioner-in-chief Harris carried out these bloody raids.
Eventually he responded, and cities such as Glasgow and Coventry were targeted too.
But as we know, even attacking "military targets" is unlikely to bring an end to a war.
For all that the Chain Home system was attacked, yet there were always Mk1 eyeball troops available to direct the RAF towards incoming bomber streams; and the RAF had a big advantage in that its fighters could remain in the air over the UK for much longer than the Messerschmitts and FWs.
Factually correct regarding the extensive UK bombings of German civilians prior to the Battle of Britain.
And speaking of Churchill and the Coventry raid, this well-documented and illuminating account of Churchill's actions on the day of the raid by the very controversial, but undoubtedly brave historian and great writer and speaker David Irving is well worth the 7 minutes.
David Irving was not a fan of Churchill, to say the least!
Winston Dunghill, one of the greatest butchers in the ignominious history of Pirate Rock and God knows there have been a lot of meat cleaver wielding loonatics on that damp outcrop of piracy and terror. Can't wait to see the inevitable gift of long overdue cigars arrive from Mr. Bear
By no means always ignominious, although for some, that might be the preferred narrative.
As for "Pirate Rock," and if you are referring to the activities of people like Sir Francis Drake against the Spanish, then remember that the gold they carried had been stolen from the South American civilizations prior to him re purposing it.
And, the great sea battles against Napoleon, Waterloo, etc.
Including the fact that the gent in question took £40K from "a shadowy group of ((( British businessmen ))) caled "The Focus Group" to start the war on Germany.
And thus his incitement of them during the initial months of the Phony War, so-called.
It's interesting to see how 85 years later the various WWII air attacks, this way and that way, to and fro, getting framed as "war crimes" when both parties did the same and neither were breaking any explicit rule that anyone had agreed to.
It's moralistic ret-conning.
What was happening was step by step escalation, morally righteous "retaliation" was just the frame they used.
I pointed out how Germany did NOT do those things, and for six weeks held off from retaliating.
Churchill had the explicit need to bring Germany into a war, ( it had been described as "Phony" up until then ) and he took £40K from the jews to facilitate their objective.
Those with eyes to see, can see an identical process at work in the addled brain of another jew, one Vladimir Zelensky, in trying to bring the US more fully into his war recently, when he bombed an Iranian ship in the Caspian Sea.
First of all, the idea that Hitler held off attacking British cities for 6 weeks after the first British attack on Berlin, let alone that he restrained himself because of some sort of moral concern is just false.
The RAF raided Berlin on the night of August 25–26, 1940. That attack is framed as a retaliation for a previous German attack on London, which is itself framed as an accidental targeting.
Then on September September 4, 1940, Hitler made a famous speech at the Berlin Sportpalast where he said he would replay the British bombs a thousand fold, and then September 7th 1940 there's a huge attack on London, the beginning of "The Biltz".
So that's about 2 weeks, enough time to get the squadrons redeployed.
And why did Churchill "need to bring Germany into a war" in September 1940?
There was nothing fake or "phony" about WWII for Britain in August 1940, hundreds of ships had already been sunk and thousands killed. HMS Glorious was sunk on June 8, 1940, and 1,500 British sailors went down with it.
Not a fake.
Secondly, neither London nor Berlin were civilian targets. Train yards, factories, airports, docks and the very obvious government centers all made them legitimate military targets.
The bombing of German cities began on 10 May 1940; the day that Churchill took over from Chamberlain.
Until the Germans finally retaliated was a period of about three months, not two weeks.
Both Britain and Germany had agreed not to do this, when asked not to by the US President; so at the very least, Britain was morally at fault for breaking the commitment, and Hitler was morally in the right.
Churchill needed to bring Germany into a ( hot ) war, because he had taken £40K from the jewish "Focus Group" to do just that - in 1936, when he was a backbencher on a salary of £500 pa.
I will leave you to work out how many years' salary that was, for a man who had Chartwell to maintain on his stipend.
The "Phoney" period was from declaration of war, until Churchill's accession to power; during which time skirmishes had taken place, but nothing to inflame the anger of the Brits to demand full scale war - so this was why Winnie did what he did on 10 May.
We note that "Glorious" went down during this now-accelerating and Churchill-provoked phase of the war.
The civilianization of the conflict was advocated by the British as their bombers were incapable of precision attacks, and Harris stated that the mass evacuation of civlians into bomb shelters every night would be a massive wakeup call for the German civil society.
You don't need to be a genius, or to have a law covering it, to know that deliberately targeting civilians, even during wartime, is both morally and legally wrong.
This realization is seen in the present conflict between Russia and Ukraine; where one side only bombs at night - especially when targeting war materiel factories in cities; and the other deliberately murders civilians, eg dozens of girls peacefully sleeping in a teacher training college.
So by no means do "both parties do the same."
It's not "moralistic ret-conning" ( whatever that is, ) but rather, "gaslighting," and that coming from you.
As far as I can see, the only parties doing this sort of thing are those which are either openly jewish, or controlled by jews.
jews' fundamental premise is that all goyim are cattle, beasts, and insects, and have no right to life or limb.
The term "retconning" derives from "Retro-active continuity".
It's what science fiction writers do when they re-write the lore of the earlier series in order to make it fit in with the cool ideas they have for storylines in the later series.
Here you have some sort of moral fable to tell about what's really happening with Zelensky/Kiev vs. Putin/Moscow (it's the Jews!).
So it all gets retconned backwards through time into an explanation about the True & Deep Lore of who was really behind Churchill/London vs. Hitler/Berlin (plot twist! It was the Jews!).
It's weak, very weak and you should stop doing it.
But the description of who is doing all these things does not have to be "retconned."
It is explicitly stated at Genesis 3, 15, where the Two Seeds which are upon the earth are unambiguously defined; one is the seed of Lucifer, ie THE JEWS, and the other is the seed of Adam, ie the white race.
So it's strong, very strong, and thus why I will continue to point them out wherever they are, and no matter who tries to defend them.
Or, as it has become increasingly obvious during the ensuing years, the losers.
Now we have a world which Hitler would understand as being one peopled and controlled almost exclusively by jews; hence the dire straits we find ourselves in at every turn.
Douet 1921 had laid out tactics of air power in his seminal work which stated categorically bombing civilian targets was key.
The Luftwaffe Condor Legion did it to Guernica in Spain. Warsaw was bombed and Rotterdam destroyed in fire.
British were first to offer like-for-like. Munster was bombed in May 1940 to nix Dahlerus talks with RAB Butler at Foreign Office.
German merited destruction and reaped the whirlwind. Tokyo however never bombed US Mainland and yet suffered firebombing and Hiroshima and Nagasaki received special U.S. attention.
The 1000 bomber raids over Germany were brilliantly executed and Köln and Hamburg and Dresen got more attention in revisionist history tomes than Würzburg or Halle or Jena or Mannheim or Frankfurt or Schweinfurt - the latter being a bloodbath for American bomber crews
" ... The town was being used as a communications centre by Republican forces just behind the front line, and the raid was intended to destroy bridges and roads.[1] The operation opened the way to Franco's capture of Bilbao and his victory in northern Spain.
The attack gained controversy because it involved the bombing of civilians by a military air force. Seen as a war crime by some historians and argued as a legitimate attack by others,[2] it was one of the first aerial bombings to capture global attention. Under the international laws regarding aerial warfare in 1937, Guernica was a legitimate military target.[3] .... "
In those days of less-than-precise "dumb bombs," the death of civilians was by no means the object of the exercise, as the WP piece points out.
Contrast Churchill's attitude with his own self-ordained attack on German cities; where the death of civilians was the ONLY objective.
As I recall, the Wehrmacht explicitly called for the surrender of Warsaw, which had been turned into a fortress by the Poles after their defeat in the field; and so one could say its destruction was self-inflicted.
Rotterdam was a mistake - the bombers were recalled whilst en route to target, but for some reason the message didn't get through.
Germany only merited destruction because the jewish-controlled west didn't like the fact that it had replaced their system of usury with one whereby their currency was now based on work done, and no longer on gold borrowed at interet from them.
"German merited destruction and reaped the whirlwind. Tokyo however never bombed US Mainland and yet suffered firebombing and Hiroshima and Nagasaki received special U.S. attention."
They attached explosives to helium balloons and set them free on prevailing westerly winds to fall on north America. I don't know what sort of trigger mechanism they had, but the project was a complete failure.
So it wasn't for lack of trying. Tokyo was simply unable to bomb the US.
Yes they did, twice in 1942. Once in California, and once in Oregon:
The Bombardment of Ellwood during World War II was a naval attack by a Japanese submarine against United States coastal targets near Santa Barbara, California in February 1942. Though the damage was minimal, the event was key in triggering the West Coast invasion scare and influenced the decision to intern Japanese-Americans. The event also marked the first shelling of the North American mainland during the conflict.
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The Bombardment of Fort Stevens occurred in June 1942, in the American Theater and the Pacific Theater of World War II. The Imperial Japanese submarine I-25 fired on Fort Stevens, which defended the Oregon side of the Columbia River's Pacific entrance
And the open spitting on the graves in Arlington & Normandy Memorials by those who have been arming and financing the self proclaimed Ukrainian Nazi (banderites and Azovites) tells you nothing about the true nature of real owners of the collective west?
The swastika-covered Azovites were hosted and celebrated in the Jewish state. But Shoah-biz extraction schema is sacred.
Coventry was one of the centres of the British car industry, all repurposed for the war effort. It was hardly a purely civilian target. In any case the damage to Britain's mediaeval heritage caused by the Luftwaffe was nothing compared to the destruction wrought after the war by the planners and road builders. As one county surveyor was heard to say, "I don't give a damn about the town, I just want to get the traffic through to the coast."
Hitler had two-engined bombers. Britain built 4-engines bombers from 1935 onwards. Had Hitler not been retarded he could gave worked out 4-engined bombers had range and load capacity to destroy targets at distance which was hardly likely to be France or Spain
German industrial capacity was already at its limits. The He177 was what happens when you let germans try to build a heavy bomber - an overly complicated, poorly flying dilly,
I specified "story", because the British have a fine history of manipulating facts. This is a quote from the encyclopedia Britannica. I am not going to argue this is accurate, rather a story the British tell each other.
"At the beginning of September, the Germans dropped some bombs, apparently by accident, on civilian areas in London, and the British retaliated by unexpectedly launching a bombing raid on Berlin. This so infuriated Hitler that he ordered the Luftwaffe to shift its attacks from Fighter Command installations to London and other cities."
Billionaires who want to own and rule the world. We don't know their names, but perhaps we would recognize them if revealed (not likely). I think that Epstein was involved with this group. His videos and photos give them blackmail leverage. Their wealth gives them money to bribe, and to buy souls.
I like this bit - a great metaphor for all the evil we are facing and what we need to do to turn the global Pedivore Epstein elite Mordor against itself Judo-style:
"..The problem for Ukraine is, this creates an accelerating feedback loop of self-defeat: the more resources Ukraine pours into hitting militarily insignificant targets, the more Russia’s actual military might remains unaffected by Ukrainian combat power, which means the faster Ukraine’s collapse will accelerate on the real front. In essence, Ukraine is vesting its entire strategy into a war against Russia’s civilian sentiment, which is as risky a move as it was for the US in Iran, wherein strikes against civil infrastructure turned even the diehard anti-clerical contingent against the US and enshrined their support of the Iranian leadership..."
Till the last…kid standing, after picking granddads from 72 from the streets, now the young women until these go in pre menopause, and finally the young ones 12 and 14 recruited or chased like in the last days of Berlin, by front soldiers in an electric wheel chair with only one forearm left.
I wonder if these abductees are even armed when they reach the front. I only ponder this becsuse if I had a gun in my hand by that point I'd be turning it on those who sent me there.
Dead either way so might as well get a proper bit of payback from the right people.
Russian oil production is reported to be down 2.55 million barrels per day, costing about 200 million a day.
This is what happens when Russia allowed Ukraine to keep retaliating instead of neutralizing it right from the start. Russia is oil-rationing due to shortages.
Let us think a little bit different. At the very moment, the (real) oil prices are very, very high. Maybe the Russians export much more oil than they usually do and fill up the war chest? Because the predictions on filling levels of the oil reserve facilities were again and again wrong. Maybe the amount of oil supply on the international markets is much higher, but no one talks about this because it is the Russians who are selling more. This is just an idea, but it would explain a lot.
So now the US will be launching Iskanders into Russia. No problemo, though, because we know they're all fired from Ukrainian territory, right? RIGHT? and have only the same range Russian Iskanders have. A few commoners will die. Nothing to worry about, move on.
I note that Russia's war against department stores is not drawing the same scorn Ukraine's did. It's sure to make Ukrainians love the Russians all the more when this is all over, if it ever is.
This war is not going to be decided with a 1 Fora against 1 Wildberries attrition campaign. The decision can be forced only if one side eliminates the supply lines of the other. And this is exactly where the RF has a built in advantage.
What advantage does RF have? Ukranus' supply lines are UNHINDERED except for the past month where RF finally decided to go after Odessa shipping.
RF has no weapons that can promptly reach ANY of the land borders into Ukranus. These transit points are outside their reach. Meanwhile, Ukranus hits the "supply lines" of Russia DAILY, destroying critical military sites, refineries, logistics, etc.
You're ass fkin backwards on this....I don't know what war you people are watching but I'm reminded of the delusions of NAFOs when they crowed about AFU winning in the 2023 offensive
Did you notice that BZ, wunderboy, Nicolas Butylin (a geopolitic schooled posterboy) wrote this: ” The longer the former actor clings to power—while mountains of corruption files pile up at the Ukrainian anti-corruption agencies NABU and SAPO and the trust of ordinary people dwindles—the more the present reality overshadows the image of the war hero…”. Why write ”former actor clings to power” and mention the massive corruption at all if the article where supposed to portray him like a hero?
This article was an attack on Zelensky, badly camoflaged. Some forces in Germany, Poland and several other countries are fed up with Zelensky. They applied a glow of Hero on him, bowed when he came as a beggar and formed the publics opinions for years. They can easily throw him in the garbage bin now when it appears that his reign has been tainted by himself and his stubborn refusal to negoiate the inevitably land cessions.
I think the article said more than most people noticed.
I think they're mostly growing tired of Zelensky and his crew of small hatters being so blatant in their theft of money meant to be killing Russians.
If Zelensky and "the Family" could have been a bit more restrained, it would be easier to keep propping him up as a hero even though western leaders know he's just a douchebag puppet who was installed because sending a few hundred thousand Slavs to their deaths wouldn't be a problem for him.
Zelensky and friends have been too blatant in their theft. So now Western governments are floating a replacement who is just as willing to bleed out every man in his country as long as Europe and the US will keep funneling weapons and money to Ukraine.
The death and destruction continues, day after day. No resolution in sight. A banker's dream. A banker's wet dream. What a planet we live on. The evil is beyond words.
Lately Glenn Diesen had Prof. Hudson on the program, and opposite to normal shows, Hudson and Diesen talked about banking and credit, from acient Sumer up to modern times.
Discernment as a necessary duty of adults. That is good. Both discernment and obligation to duty are sorely lacking in our "democracy". Functional, real democracy cannot exist without both of those things.
American Revolutionary War (1775–1783)Estimated Deaths: ~25,000
U.S. Population (approx.): 2.5 million
Percent of Population: ~1.0%
War of 1812 (1812–1815)Estimated Deaths: ~15,000U.S. Population (approx.): 7.5 millionPercent of Population: ~0.2%Mexican-American War (1846–1848)Estimated Deaths: ~13,000U.S. Population (approx.): 21 millionPercent of Population: ~0.06%American Civil War (1861–1865)Estimated Deaths: ~620,000 to 750,000 (Union and Confederate combined)U.S. Population (approx.): 31.4 millionPercent of Population: ~2.0%Spanish-American War (1898)Estimated Deaths: ~2,446U.S. Population (approx.): 73 millionPercent of Population: ~0.003%World War I (1917–1918)Estimated Deaths: ~116,500U.S. Population (approx.): 103 millionPercent of Population: ~0.11%World War II (1941–1945)Estimated Deaths: ~405,000U.S. Population (approx.): 133 millionPercent of Population: ~0.30%Korean War (1950–1953)Estimated Deaths: ~36,500U.S. Population (approx.): 152 millionPercent of Population: ~0.02%Vietnam War (1964–1975)Estimated Deaths: ~58,200U.S. Population (approx.): 199 millionPercent of Population: ~0.03%
Good post with facts. Too bad the formatting isn't made easier.
Yeah, copy paste didn't work well...
But the point being, when Americans fight Americans? We seem to get competent.
(The US civil wa was anomalous, too many new military technologies fielded by hen hadn't yet grown doctrines)
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like if the US civilian population was still as warlike as it was back in the 19th century. We seem relatively pacified nowdays, accusations to the contrary notwithstanding.
Shortly after antibiotics + decent trauma surgery arrived after WWII and children began routinely surviving to adulthood, certain things changed? Correlation isn't causation, but still.
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I concede
Never graciously concede anything, that's way too Queensbury Rules these days. Be like Trump, blame Victor for stealing first which only you rightly deserve, because, in fact, you invented being first. Nobody has ever been more first than you. Victor stole it from you because he's really Joe Biden.
You are correct.
If you rearrange the letters of his name, you see that it spells "Joe Biden."
ROFLMAO!!
Are you sure I did invent being first? I think it was arguably ‘The Spectre’, whose modus operandi includes rushing to leave a first message, then editing it out to give his own take on things from a vantage point of visibility (the first message)
I saw Denis use that same technique once or twice before The Spectre became the bestest firster ever. Denis got some guff for it. His "first" posts grew from one word to very long essays over time. One was totally off-topic, an essay about Putin-bad (iirc) on an Iran or Gaza topic on which Simplicius didn’t even mention Russia once.
And yes, I know you didn't invent being first. I was just trying to be funny saying what you should say, if you wanted to act like Trump in this situation. Maybe I needed the 'ol /sarc tag on that one!
A community of the like-minded, coming into being thanks to Simplicius' hard work and dedicated and consistent output!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You nailed it👀🥰😛...
Sitrep looks proper, old school Simplicius' Garden of Knowledge material!
Where are the Greek masks separating one section from the next, though? Right now for that purpose there is use of too frugal em dashes --
Victor is the GOAT
Has anyone actually bothered to keep score of the firsts? That would probably be embarrassing to admit if they did. Offhand, I think The Spectre would be right up there pretty close to Victor Joe.
The next stage of 3 WW is coming at the end of this year.
No matter what are Iran-USA diplomatic talks, Iran will be nuked, by hands of Israel. Bushehr nuclear power plant will be dirty bombed, it will explode, with 72 tons of active material loaded in reactors and 200 tons spend fuel stored on site. Americans will use flesh rotting chemical weapons, gas bombs on civilians - all not reported and later under-reported by the Western mass media. Death in tens millions, hell in hell. Mass migration in ten/hundred millions from the Middle East, out of total 500 mln population.
Israel enters into Great Israel stage, the map Natanyahu shown at UN plenary session on 22 September 2023. And beyond those borders. With false Messiah pointed by them, just to get all those mad evangelical Christians in the USA and everywhere else, who are all Zionists, on their side.
If Trump doesn’t follow, he will be poisoned. His son Barron becoming interim president.
Pivotal in this war will be a new player, but not a superpower, Turkiye. It will leave NATO and associate with Russia and Pakistan for nuclear umbrella.
Russia and/or Pakistan will nuke Israel, to prevent them from using remaining bombs on Turkiye and elsewhere.
There would be immediately hot front on NATO East border. Six countries will be at active war. Large American armaments will be coming, they will send all they have, and they still have a lot - bar nukes. Zaporozhe nuclear power plant, the largest in Europe, will be once again bombed, but this time at critical danger level. All borders in Europe shut and with full military mobilisation, to prevent mass migration from Ukrainian and Middle East humanitarian disaster and stop deserters, conscripts from war countries.
It will be a very fast paced war, with many war theatres around the glob, will end
Chine will try to stay away as far as possible. To prevent nuclear war they will use biological weapon, highly deadly pandemic, with not known medicines to cure. All active fronts and any military activity will cease. Putin single-handedly stopped Covid, which was just socio-engineering, by war on Banderites, Xi will stop nuclear war with ensuring nuclear winter, by real mass death. That will save humanity for 1-2 generations, when the 4 WW will annihilate 99% of us.
The CNN report was interesting because obviously staged: who would leave an empty patriot unit in the open air? To create a nice multi-million dollar target for Russian forces?
Staged, Photoshopped, or AI?
Harder to trust news photos nowadays.
Possible the story was jus made up by journalist
Maybe they are doing what the Iranians do, and putting out inflatable decoys.
Yes and in Zelensky's current situation don't be surprised if armies of inflatable bearded dwarves appear all over the place.
There are many types of inflatable decoys available from this place.
Expensive though. Or I would have bought a Troops worth of tanks to defend my place against the hobos.
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-inflatable-decoy-tank.html?spm=a2g0o.best.search.0
the Ukrainians would. Tanks, launchers. Hey, if the stuff comes free (except for your life) why risk yourself trying to get it? The Russians will soon take it out if it has not.
Why waste a missile or drone on it? Anything moving is subject to attack so there is no practical way to resupply right? Not like the Patriot can hit the broadside of a barn. The Russians might even have it zeroed in and waiting for some retard to resupply so they can blow it up.
The patriot unit and its interceptor are junk. Theodore Postol Professor at MIT has shown that the effectiveness of its missiles is $4 million dollars a pop with a 3% success rating. The only thing that is hurt by patriot missiles is the poor taxpayers in the US and the 40 trillion-dollar deficit with the coming inflation.
Very much so; however, the Patriots remain effective against relatively slow moving cruise missiles and aircraft, so having them keeps Russian bombers away from Kyiv.
particularly when theyre not loaded huh
Its' closer to $6 million, each. They are effective against drones, and they make massive profits for the permanent donor class. The economic idiocy and lack of relevance in calculations to prevail in any real conflict has not been a consideration since WWII. When our country goes over the economic cliff into mass currency debasement, what and where will the wealthy kleptocrats convert their money to?
good god you people are so fucking stupid
please, STFU already
Stupid? Look in the mirror.
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AMANPOUR. It crushed me when she and James Rubin divorced. They were the perfect couple.
CNN AND ALL the others are CIA embedded entities with the facade of news informers ie 70% bullshit and 30% lies . Obviously the parents of many in the usa should never have become parents because they did a horrific job .
The russians still need to solve the drone problem. A year ago I was expecting Russia to be launching 1k drones a night. I am surprised its actually the other way around. Further, given that ukraine is broadening the target list to "anything", it is not actually possible to have AD dense enough to stop everything
Even if your AD is almost perfect, its still thousands of drones of debris falling each week, thousands of interceptor missiles flying, etc
The answer I suppose is oreshnik into the production facilities all over europe. But likely they dont have enough at this stage
A European war is inevitable. But not yet. Russia will accept the limited damage by the drones until Ukraine forces are pushed out of the four new Russian regions and the capture of Odessa. At that point we might see a decision to attack all drone manufacturing plants in Europe, followed by a Russian offer of peace based on a new pan-European Security Agreement - that, or full-on war. I think I know what the Europeans, cowards that they are, will choose, even in the face of American pressure.
Is there any evidence that there have been any "low profile agent actions on hostile manufacturing sites" by Russia within EU countries? I haven't seen any evidence of that (yet).
EU media and public (un)elected officials would shout about it as loud as they could if there were any credible evidence of this, because it would be able to use that to whip up even more Russia-hate and send more money to Ukraine.
Sounds like people are jumping to hopeful conclusions based on flimsy evidence, ie grabbing at straws.
I'm not saying its impossible that Russian secret agents are causing a few fires at some manufacturing sites in Europe, but I think its unlikely mainly because as stated, European and US media and officialdom would be shouting about it nonstop and using that evidence as another excuse to call Putin a "monster" and whip up the Russophobia to even higher levels than it is now.
A different theory: if these fires are indeed at munitions factories, a statistically higher level of fires in recent weeks/months might be the less click-baity result of trying to ramp up production much too quickly. This means hastily installing new and untested production lines, and hiring brand new and untrained workers off the street. In these situations at industrial facilities, accidents are always statistically higher.
Previously, blaming Russia for the bad smell coming out of your ass was in vogue, because it meant nothing but headlines. Now, formally pinning acts of sabotage on Russia carries a political cost, unless saying is followed by doing, escalation and retaliation.
It would undermine the narrative of EU being safe and insulated from the conflict, and spawn increasing numbers of GM-equivalent entities, demanding that Europe get even deeper involved in Ukraine (good luck with that), as well as agitate peaceniks and those in favor of withdrawal and course-correction.
Not saying that it is a case of Russian sabotage, but that in the current situation, there are very pragmatic reasons for blaming anyone and anything but Russia, even if Russia is implicated, because shouting about it non-stop now ironically has consequences, where before, it did not.
It's very odd that so many ammo factories in the EU have blown up recently, eg in Bulgaria and Italy.
It would make a lot of sense for Russia to be responsible.
I think that Russia is almost certainly behind much of that - there is no evidence because they leave no evidence, at least the kind of evidence that would point to them.
The CIA have found unburned Russian passports at the scene, though.
And empty bottles of vodka and Matrushka dolls, and those funny hats they wear with the Red Stars on them.
Maria has issued a strongly-worded statement; but all the evidence is that they are responsible.
They are more likely being framed, though admittedly, some strange folks with the letters "КГБ" on their backs were seen running from the scene.
Don't touch that evidence, it has Novichok on it!
ROFLMAO!
Certain Passports are flame resistant! That has to be the reason, right?
The explosion in Italy and Bulgaria?
is it cowardice to not want to fight Russia, or is it common sense?
For normal humans, it is certainly common sense, but for European leaders who constantly boast of their superiority over Russia, it is outright cowardice.
Yep. It's purely "let's you and him fight". Proxy wars seem cowardly. But it's also "common sense" if it keeps working and the proxy states keep bending over.
European elites are still stuck in July of 1914, eternally optimistic about their own superiority.
Instead of directly attacking EU land (potentially triggering article 5), Russia could begin causing chaos in shipping in the Baltic sea and eastern Mediterranean using drones. The EU is dependent on merchant shipping for trade. While Russia could seize EU ships in the Pacific ocean, there would be too few to be worthwhile.
Problem with A5 is that Europe has nothing of substance to respond with.
What we need is root-and-branch change of EU leadership; and a return to more sensible times when each nation made its own decisions based on national interest, not the interest of globalist lunatics.
You know their names.
And the US will not respond to an article 5 declaration - not in their interests - in fact, against their interests.
Not sure we will ever get a change of European leadership - at least not in a good direction - leadership changes in Europe are similar to the US - the new just gets dumber, stupider, greedier and more puppetised (is that really a word?).
I'm hoping for Annalena to be recalled from New York.
But given her directional sense, she'll probably end up in a yurt in Siberia.
The Oxford English Dictionary gives "puppetish", so why not "puppetise"? "Dummer" is a village in north Hampshire, BTW, the word you are looking for is "dumber".
O my! How embarrassing!
"leadership changes in Europe are similar to the US"
Except that in the US, voters have at least the theoretical ability to change their leaders.
EU leaders - Ursula v d Leyen, Rutte, Kaja Kallas - weren't put there by voters anyway and voters have no realistic way to change any of them.
But, but, but the EU is so democratic!
The only leaders you will ever get are those individuals who are funded by the jewish lobby.
So, "Do you want this jewish puppet, or that one?"
The system is a complete jew-wash.
the US is in major domestic turmoil now. nearing civil war proportions, with two segments of the population at virtual war with each other. We are groaning with the weight of debt and our weapons are outdated. Why update when you can easily terrorize the world with the old stuff? But there is a nascent antiwar movement starting here, against this and all the other wars the USG can be counted on (under either party) to provide the Warmakers.
Such individuals are "domestic terr'ists," and the National Guard will have to be set loose on them.
ENOUGH about this article fucking 5 shit
NATO is ALREADY IN THE WAR...wtf is it going to take to realize this?
What ADDITIONAL SHIT does RF think NATO is going to bring to bear? In fact, TRIGGERING Article 5 to open war would HELP THEM as then they might grow the necessary fucking balls to SHOOT DOWN any ISR birds near their territory
Victor is the latest iteration of Cassandra of Trojan War fame.
Prophesying the inevitable; and yet always doomed to be disbelieved.
But anybody who so consistently wins the race to be first, cannot but have the Gods speaking through him.
Should I change my name?
Just tell us what it really is, Joe.
It really is Victor. Me mum was in love with a Hollywood screen star back in the 40s whose name was Victor Mature - sadly for her I didn't turn out like him.
And to think I thought she called you that because there was a child's comic lying on the floor when she was thinking up a name for her latest creation.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/victor/4050-34534/characters/
Is it really?
If I understand you correctly, Russia will brush off whatever Ukraine throws at their Motherland, keep the slow push out from the four designated Oblasts and sometime in the future even take Odessa (oblast or city)?
Only when that is achieved they will simultaneously attack European Drone manufacturing plants and offer peace formed by a new Security Agreement.
If no, full War (with Europe and/or US as well)?
And if Europeans are cowards they will agree and thus War is not inevitable?
I think it is a mistake to draw lines of development of the War according to what has been and seems to be the continuation. I think your idea of the future is more wishful than realistic.
There are numerous unseen events and unimaginable developments/twist&turns to happen yet. And they are certainly formed by what happens in other theaters of War (Mid-East, Cuba, Korea) and of Black Swan events (coup in Ukraine, Trumpie leave by other means, Putin fall ill, Israel nuke Iran)
The most obvious new threats/opportunities would be a blockade of the Baltic Sea for Russian ships other than military. Russia dont have enough Naval force to protect every single ship. The Erdogan enigma is another, helping Ukraine with one hand and threatening Israel with the other. Can it escalate?
The US/little brits are working hard in Caucasus - will something change dramatically and threaten Russias underbelly?
Will Musk cave in on Starlink use over Russia, enabling ballistics and drones to go everywhere? Or will Trump concentrate on Iran and dump Ukraine on Europe?
That Russia will be able to take Odessa is in the 1:1000 odds and the long promised ”thousands cuts will eventually break Ukraine” is another 1:100.
The only way to ”break” anything is numerous events developing simultaneously and with sudden, unexpected, shocking impact to the minds of both Ukrainians and European leaders. As of now everyone knows what happens and going to happen thanks to the ISR and transparancy of the front. The side that can use that ”lull” to its advantage can break something.
you see, once Russia takes quite a bit more than the four oblasts, plus Odessa and Kiev, there will be no more cover for NATO aggression. Any attacks on Russia would then trigger a massive reprisal on those kinds of war toys industries you cite. That's my own view.
Godspeed!
Why would Russia wait to capture the 4 oblasts before launching at Europe. What differences would it make ?
Good question. I believe they would want to ensure that they have met their minimum territorial requirements before they risk expanding the war (actually, their minimum requirements don't include Odessa, but I think they will take the city anyway). They want to be certain they have complete control first.
Just my opinion. I haven't yet discussed this with Vladimir.
Russia prefers missiles now. They have tremendous pow power. Even the Ukrainians are starting to see how limited drone damage is, when what they want is to blow up Moscow. Hence all the whining, they need the full western arsenal including nukes because (rich, this one) Ukraine is the savior of the EU and all civilization. Sieg you-know-who. The fact is the the fools of the UK who are moving the hand of the Ukrainian proxy have already brought the UK into the war's crosshairs. And the UK is massively vulnerable. Not a whole continent, like some, but just a collection of rocks and islands. Others may be more hesitant to join them once that goes hot. And nobody has the weapons the Kievan puppets want, nor the weapons they themselves will certainly need if they are to wage war on Russia. And Kiev had best hurry to destroy Moscow, because Moscow will soon be blowing up Kiev.
Missiles are better than drones, but saying drones are ineffective is wrong. A lot of damage has been done by them. Yes the ratio is heavily against ukr but one country goes around the world telling everyone that they are fighting for their lives and the other is talking about inflation and economic growth and normal life. Ergo, every strike is one too many.
of course, they do sometimes big damage. but they don’t take out Moscow. For that he needs France and Germany and America to fly their bombers into Ukraine and straight on to Russia. Drugs. Zelensky should be an anti-drug public service announcement.
The perfidious Albion will behave perfidiously until its ungodly empire of offshore accounts is Kaput. All attention should be paid to usurers’ nests and the war profiteers like Blairs and Arbuthnots.
Most of those drones over Russia are taken out by Panzir units. A simple radar guided set of four heavy machine guns on a single mount manned by a tiny crew. Once placed on a carrier they are cheap to have built and almost free to operate.
You actually can cover a lot of territory simply by putting a thousand such units in place in a region and a surveillance system that lets you know when the drones are coming and from what general direction.
they don't have 1000, dude
why not just say 10000000 or some other made up number?
TJE
The Russians don't have four thousand machine guns to place in in a four gun assembly and load each four gun system on a reinforced pickup, or the ability to manufacture them in short order? The Soviet Red Army didn't have thousands probably tens of thousands machine guns stored away? The Russians seemingly have thousands of missiles, tens of thousands of drones and millions of artillery shells but are stymied by putting a thousand four machine gun systems together in one region far from the front lines?
Good to know. Thanks.
NO BITCH, DF DID I STUTTER?
NO, they DO NOT have 1000 NOR THE ABILITY TO MAKE THEM
NOR are you INTELLIGENT ENOUGH or KNOWLEDGEABLE ENOUGH about what it ACTUALLY FUCKING TAKES to shoot down drones to even be voicing an OPINION ON IT
L.O.L. Russia won't or can't make machine guns. Machine guns can't take down low flying drones. Hell, they can take them down with shotguns sometimes, forget about machine guns.
Russia has thousands of tank left over from the Soviet times but no machine guns. It can produce more artillery shells than all of NATO combined. It can produce more advanced drones that all of NATO combined. It can produce more ballistic missile than all of NATO combined. It can produce more hypersonic missiles than all of NATO combined. But they can't make machine guns at scale. Riiiiiight!
The biggest component of defense against drones deep inside Russia in fact appears to be helicopters
Because they are not stationary and the territory is vast. Pantsirs can't cover the whole space, they are SHORAD.
But once jet drones start to fly in huge numbers even helicopters won't be able to do much.
Russian AD is not ineffective, but still seems adhoc. Once drones get past the border approaches into the interior, the AD task becomes much more difficult.
Perhaps years from now we will learn the real story about Russian AD. To me it seems disorganized and resource starved and uncoordinated. But of course what can I know.
War is changing. New tech and new arithmetic eliminates the post WW2 delusion that war should properly be a contest between uniformed militaries. Now we must recognize that war is a contest between entire societies, economies and production.
The logical conclusion of the way things are going is precision drone attacks of 10's of thousands of weapons driven by fusion of multiple sensor and intelligence sources to identify chains of targets that make up the lines of communications, transport, sustainment of entire economies. The aim will be to destroy entire chains rather then end nodes.
Nuclear weapons achieved this through a relative few massive explosions. The same effect might be achieved by a million smaller, well aimed explosions.
Thus mastering air defense will be strategically vital. But Russia, being resource constrained, seems unable to devote sufficient resources to this and to the offense simultaneously.
The future also points to increasing emphasis on dispersal, resilience and economic self sufficiency even at the cost of efficiency. The end of globalization and perhaps even a slow reversal of the focus on global trade as national destiny that has characterized the last 300 years.
It’s not a mystery at all but rather simple arithmetic. Russia can cover any area or vector just not every area and vector. The country’s vast and the targets are basically infinite once you include every civilian object or enterprise. Many drones are smuggled or assembled inside Russia so they arrive from unexpected vectors. One can easily calculate the number of each type of AD systems are necessary to defend an area. Now count up the number of areas. There are just not enough systems.
And even when an area is defended it’s a numbers game that favors the attacker. Look at all the missile warfare that has gone on in the last 3 years - attackers can saturate even the best AD systems and get a leaker through.
Russian AD is fucking incompetent.
They have not even done what Ukranus did which is install a network of acoustic sensors along the border and at echelons to assist in getting aerial radar aloft to then fix and target the incursions.
What I just described is literally what AFU does...in addition, because of NATO's MASSIVE ISR overmatch, the west knows every single time any missile carrier launches, anywhere
TJE
Unfortunately for your theory, Ukraine's major cities are getting attacked every night by hundreds of drone/missile combos and even the Ukrainians acknowledge they can't defend against them. The reason they acknowledge that is because everyone on the ground can see them coming in day and night with no noticeable interception going on.
Acoustic sensors??!!?? There are really cheap acoustic sensors all over the place in Ukraine. They are called human beings. They are all quite capable of phoning someone and say.....I hear hundreds of drones going overhead heading your way, in case anyone is interested.....
However, I don't doubt that someone in Ukraine got some dumb bunnies in the West to hand that someone a large sum of money to install such systems.
you're utterly full of shit
Ukranus is getting hit by at most a couple dozen ballistic missiles.
this is shock & awe. It is not volume. Geran launches are routinely in the 100ish range and YES, Ukranus CAN and DOES shoot most of these down.
The Ukrainiacs' "acknowledging"...motherfucker, you have no fucking clue what tf the Ukrainiacs do or do not acknowledge nor are you conversant enough on this topic to be able to distinguish between the technical complexity and necessary equipment to intercept a drone vs a low hypersonic ballistic vehicle.
Despite these so-called "free sensors" you talk about, Russia's Soyuz plant got hit by TWO FP5s.
As I said, Russian AD is INCOMPETENT. Kindly STFU
What Russia is doing makes sense. By destroying infrastructure, the drones become just pretty paper weights.
I have talked about this EXTENSIVELY
AFU struck some critical component production step in the supply chain of Gerans. This is the only explanation that is rational. The sole hypothesis that fits the facts and which is not fantastical like mfing copers saying RF is "saving up for a mega mega massive strike"- they have to use 2 megas now bc they were saying for the past few weeks it was a mega strike coming.
A few Oreshniks at the right time would have solved this or else escalated to full scale war which is going to soon be Russia's only option
but this dithering and waiting means that critical capabilities they would need for such a war, they now LACK
TJE
You have no idea of what an Oreshnik does or you wouldn't write such stuff.
REALLY?
so the fact that Russia has fired 3 of them already...what DO they do then? Or are you claiming that they're so ineffective that using them on appropriate targets outside of Ukranus would have done nothing?
The fucking thing is BUILT TO STRIKE EUROPE. That is the PURPOSE of the missile.
you freakin people see ONE WORD "oreshnik" and your brain goes into convulsions like somehow mere mention of this system makes you ignore EVERYTHING ELSE a person wrote.
What "such stuff" would I not write? Everything I said was true.
TJE
It is you that writes as if the Oreshnik is some kind of wonder weapon. It is a very expensive weapon suitable for a specific type of target. It is not a game changer any more than the Abrams tank is.
It is in fact game changer because it undoes some of the damage of the INF treaty and restores a bit of the strategic balance in Europe.
But that is all dependent on someone having the balls to use it as intended.
BTW, there likely is no non-nuclear Oreshnik and its sole purpose is to deliver 6 to 36 nukes somewhere in Europe. Maybe a bit further (Medvedev had a slip on that in one of his posts).
It certainlys makes very little sense as a kinetic weapon
In a nuclear exchange where thousands of massive nukes are flying each way, a relatively small number of specific delivery systems won't make the slightest difference to the outcome.
According to Russian, Ukrainian, NATO sources the Oreshnik has already been used in Ukraine at least once and believed to have been used a second time.
Curiously, Almaz Antery is talking about export of OWA drones now, because production was now sufficient to cover both the needs of the war and foreign demand:
https://t.me/barantchik/39803
(The Harpia is another Geran version)
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⚡️Almaz-Antey Launches Serial Production of the Harpia-A1 for the Global Market.
The Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern has launched serial production of the Harpia-A1 (E) unmanned aerial vehicle and is ready to fulfill export contracts. Rosoboronexport Director General Alexander Mikheev announced this on August 21.
He stated that the company has reached a production level that allows it to fulfill orders from foreign customers within competitive timeframes without compromising the country's defense capability.
The Harpia-A1 (E) is a loitering munition with a stated range of up to 1,000 km. It can carry a warhead weighing over 50 kg with a probable circular error of no more than 4 m.
The drone has a flying wing configuration with a pusher propeller. The fuselage is 3.4 m long, the wingspan is 3 m, and the takeoff weight is 250 kg. The device reaches speeds of at least 170 km/h, remains airborne for up to six hours, and is capable of engaging stationary targets with specified coordinates at altitudes ranging from 50 to 2,500 meters.
Mikheyev noted that the system has already attracted interest from foreign customers. Rosoboronexport is also prepared to discuss localizing the production of the Harpia-A1 (E) in countries friendly to Russia.
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"...what to expect from Ukraine in the coming months. The closer Ukraine comes to battlefield defeat, the more it will redirect all of its available resources to targeting Russian civilian infrastructure in order to spur some kind of popular uprising of discontent against Putin."
This is from a familiar playbook, isn't it? Sounds kinda Western to me. It is the plan of an immoral bully who does not know how to accept defeat, nor care about human life.
They are already targeting civilian infrastructure - refineries, apartment buildings, schools, hospitals airports etc. It's the zionist way.
Yes~the Zionist way.
What an evil, cancerous bunch the Zs are.
Putting the "Nazi" into "Ashkenazi".
Exactly.
Glad somebody else sees it.
Civilians make easier targets: there are more of them and they can't shoot back.
Reminds me of the Battle of Britain story. A British bombing raid on Berlin caused an enraged Hitler to foolishly divert bombing from military targets to London. The British were steadfast and Germany lost.
"A British bombing raid on Berlin."
No - a months'- long concentration of bombing raids on German cities - a war crime never properly accounted for or punished.
Hitler held off on retaliation for six weeks whilst the criminal Churchill and his henchman and executioner-in-chief Harris carried out these bloody raids.
Eventually he responded, and cities such as Glasgow and Coventry were targeted too.
But as we know, even attacking "military targets" is unlikely to bring an end to a war.
For all that the Chain Home system was attacked, yet there were always Mk1 eyeball troops available to direct the RAF towards incoming bomber streams; and the RAF had a big advantage in that its fighters could remain in the air over the UK for much longer than the Messerschmitts and FWs.
No operational Fws in summer, 1940, but otherwise correct. A minor point of order. 😊
I deliberately put that in to see if anybody was awake.
( Honest. )
Factually correct regarding the extensive UK bombings of German civilians prior to the Battle of Britain.
And speaking of Churchill and the Coventry raid, this well-documented and illuminating account of Churchill's actions on the day of the raid by the very controversial, but undoubtedly brave historian and great writer and speaker David Irving is well worth the 7 minutes.
David Irving was not a fan of Churchill, to say the least!
https://youtu.be/obaRqykVIA4
Winston Dunghill, one of the greatest butchers in the ignominious history of Pirate Rock and God knows there have been a lot of meat cleaver wielding loonatics on that damp outcrop of piracy and terror. Can't wait to see the inevitable gift of long overdue cigars arrive from Mr. Bear
By no means always ignominious, although for some, that might be the preferred narrative.
As for "Pirate Rock," and if you are referring to the activities of people like Sir Francis Drake against the Spanish, then remember that the gold they carried had been stolen from the South American civilizations prior to him re purposing it.
And, the great sea battles against Napoleon, Waterloo, etc.
Even the Falklands in more recent times.
Surely you meant the Malvinas!
David Irving has a reputational problem which he decided to expose in court and receive judgment
Only from a certain jewess.
Everybody else knows he tells the truth.
349 page High Court Judgment and Irving sued not Lippstadt but she did have Penguin Books on her corner with excellent barristers
Agreed.
I get a lot of my info from David.
Including the fact that the gent in question took £40K from "a shadowy group of ((( British businessmen ))) caled "The Focus Group" to start the war on Germany.
And thus his incitement of them during the initial months of the Phony War, so-called.
Chamberlain declared war on 3 Sept 1939
Thenceforth, the Bore War for eight months, as the Brits called it.
On the day that Churchill replaced Chamberlain, ie 10 May 1940, the bombing of German cities began, triggered entirely by the Fat Sodomite.
Churchill was probably saying "Bring me another cabin boy!!" whilst his speeches were being read by Shelley over the airwaves.
Bad man.
It's interesting to see how 85 years later the various WWII air attacks, this way and that way, to and fro, getting framed as "war crimes" when both parties did the same and neither were breaking any explicit rule that anyone had agreed to.
It's moralistic ret-conning.
What was happening was step by step escalation, morally righteous "retaliation" was just the frame they used.
Don't fall for it.
I pointed out how Germany did NOT do those things, and for six weeks held off from retaliating.
Churchill had the explicit need to bring Germany into a war, ( it had been described as "Phony" up until then ) and he took £40K from the jews to facilitate their objective.
Those with eyes to see, can see an identical process at work in the addled brain of another jew, one Vladimir Zelensky, in trying to bring the US more fully into his war recently, when he bombed an Iranian ship in the Caspian Sea.
First of all, the idea that Hitler held off attacking British cities for 6 weeks after the first British attack on Berlin, let alone that he restrained himself because of some sort of moral concern is just false.
The RAF raided Berlin on the night of August 25–26, 1940. That attack is framed as a retaliation for a previous German attack on London, which is itself framed as an accidental targeting.
Then on September September 4, 1940, Hitler made a famous speech at the Berlin Sportpalast where he said he would replay the British bombs a thousand fold, and then September 7th 1940 there's a huge attack on London, the beginning of "The Biltz".
So that's about 2 weeks, enough time to get the squadrons redeployed.
And why did Churchill "need to bring Germany into a war" in September 1940?
There was nothing fake or "phony" about WWII for Britain in August 1940, hundreds of ships had already been sunk and thousands killed. HMS Glorious was sunk on June 8, 1940, and 1,500 British sailors went down with it.
Not a fake.
Secondly, neither London nor Berlin were civilian targets. Train yards, factories, airports, docks and the very obvious government centers all made them legitimate military targets.
The bombing of German cities began on 10 May 1940; the day that Churchill took over from Chamberlain.
Until the Germans finally retaliated was a period of about three months, not two weeks.
Both Britain and Germany had agreed not to do this, when asked not to by the US President; so at the very least, Britain was morally at fault for breaking the commitment, and Hitler was morally in the right.
Churchill needed to bring Germany into a ( hot ) war, because he had taken £40K from the jewish "Focus Group" to do just that - in 1936, when he was a backbencher on a salary of £500 pa.
I will leave you to work out how many years' salary that was, for a man who had Chartwell to maintain on his stipend.
The "Phoney" period was from declaration of war, until Churchill's accession to power; during which time skirmishes had taken place, but nothing to inflame the anger of the Brits to demand full scale war - so this was why Winnie did what he did on 10 May.
We note that "Glorious" went down during this now-accelerating and Churchill-provoked phase of the war.
The civilianization of the conflict was advocated by the British as their bombers were incapable of precision attacks, and Harris stated that the mass evacuation of civlians into bomb shelters every night would be a massive wakeup call for the German civil society.
You don't need to be a genius, or to have a law covering it, to know that deliberately targeting civilians, even during wartime, is both morally and legally wrong.
This realization is seen in the present conflict between Russia and Ukraine; where one side only bombs at night - especially when targeting war materiel factories in cities; and the other deliberately murders civilians, eg dozens of girls peacefully sleeping in a teacher training college.
So by no means do "both parties do the same."
It's not "moralistic ret-conning" ( whatever that is, ) but rather, "gaslighting," and that coming from you.
As far as I can see, the only parties doing this sort of thing are those which are either openly jewish, or controlled by jews.
jews' fundamental premise is that all goyim are cattle, beasts, and insects, and have no right to life or limb.
The term "retconning" derives from "Retro-active continuity".
It's what science fiction writers do when they re-write the lore of the earlier series in order to make it fit in with the cool ideas they have for storylines in the later series.
Here you have some sort of moral fable to tell about what's really happening with Zelensky/Kiev vs. Putin/Moscow (it's the Jews!).
So it all gets retconned backwards through time into an explanation about the True & Deep Lore of who was really behind Churchill/London vs. Hitler/Berlin (plot twist! It was the Jews!).
It's weak, very weak and you should stop doing it.
Thanks for the explanation.
But the description of who is doing all these things does not have to be "retconned."
It is explicitly stated at Genesis 3, 15, where the Two Seeds which are upon the earth are unambiguously defined; one is the seed of Lucifer, ie THE JEWS, and the other is the seed of Adam, ie the white race.
So it's strong, very strong, and thus why I will continue to point them out wherever they are, and no matter who tries to defend them.
History is written by the winners.
Or, as it has become increasingly obvious during the ensuing years, the losers.
Now we have a world which Hitler would understand as being one peopled and controlled almost exclusively by jews; hence the dire straits we find ourselves in at every turn.
Douet 1921 had laid out tactics of air power in his seminal work which stated categorically bombing civilian targets was key.
The Luftwaffe Condor Legion did it to Guernica in Spain. Warsaw was bombed and Rotterdam destroyed in fire.
British were first to offer like-for-like. Munster was bombed in May 1940 to nix Dahlerus talks with RAB Butler at Foreign Office.
German merited destruction and reaped the whirlwind. Tokyo however never bombed US Mainland and yet suffered firebombing and Hiroshima and Nagasaki received special U.S. attention.
The 1000 bomber raids over Germany were brilliantly executed and Köln and Hamburg and Dresen got more attention in revisionist history tomes than Würzburg or Halle or Jena or Mannheim or Frankfurt or Schweinfurt - the latter being a bloodbath for American bomber crews
Re. Guernica.
" ... The town was being used as a communications centre by Republican forces just behind the front line, and the raid was intended to destroy bridges and roads.[1] The operation opened the way to Franco's capture of Bilbao and his victory in northern Spain.
The attack gained controversy because it involved the bombing of civilians by a military air force. Seen as a war crime by some historians and argued as a legitimate attack by others,[2] it was one of the first aerial bombings to capture global attention. Under the international laws regarding aerial warfare in 1937, Guernica was a legitimate military target.[3] .... "
In those days of less-than-precise "dumb bombs," the death of civilians was by no means the object of the exercise, as the WP piece points out.
Contrast Churchill's attitude with his own self-ordained attack on German cities; where the death of civilians was the ONLY objective.
As I recall, the Wehrmacht explicitly called for the surrender of Warsaw, which had been turned into a fortress by the Poles after their defeat in the field; and so one could say its destruction was self-inflicted.
Rotterdam was a mistake - the bombers were recalled whilst en route to target, but for some reason the message didn't get through.
Germany only merited destruction because the jewish-controlled west didn't like the fact that it had replaced their system of usury with one whereby their currency was now based on work done, and no longer on gold borrowed at interet from them.
"All wars are banker wars."
Yes. All wars are bankers wars.
Crap
Go to Warsaw
Go to Coventry
Warsaw - massively fortified by Poland after their field army was smashed.
Germany demanded its surrender - the Poles refused.
Coventry - burned to the ground by Germany after Churchill began his bombing campaign against German civilian sites in May 1940.
Much of this "brilliance" came from the flames of hundreds of these bombers as they went down.
50,000 dead British aircrew are silent witnesses to your claim.
USAAF lost no one apparently
Did I say that?
"German merited destruction and reaped the whirlwind. Tokyo however never bombed US Mainland and yet suffered firebombing and Hiroshima and Nagasaki received special U.S. attention."
They attached explosives to helium balloons and set them free on prevailing westerly winds to fall on north America. I don't know what sort of trigger mechanism they had, but the project was a complete failure.
So it wasn't for lack of trying. Tokyo was simply unable to bomb the US.
"Tokyo however never bombed US Mainland.."
Yes they did, twice in 1942. Once in California, and once in Oregon:
The Bombardment of Ellwood during World War II was a naval attack by a Japanese submarine against United States coastal targets near Santa Barbara, California in February 1942. Though the damage was minimal, the event was key in triggering the West Coast invasion scare and influenced the decision to intern Japanese-Americans. The event also marked the first shelling of the North American mainland during the conflict.
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The Bombardment of Fort Stevens occurred in June 1942, in the American Theater and the Pacific Theater of World War II. The Imperial Japanese submarine I-25 fired on Fort Stevens, which defended the Oregon side of the Columbia River's Pacific entrance
(clipped from wiki).
Interesting fact but not air war
You forgot Southampton for some reason - its burning could be seen in France.
Coventry destroyed the best Medieval Cathedral in Europe and for that Germany should has yet to make amends.
Once Dresden is made amends for, then we can discuss Coventry Cathedral.
Have you been to Dresden ?
Never.
S'ton was there implicitly.
"Cities such as Glasgow and Coventry" covers your point.
And the open spitting on the graves in Arlington & Normandy Memorials by those who have been arming and financing the self proclaimed Ukrainian Nazi (banderites and Azovites) tells you nothing about the true nature of real owners of the collective west?
The swastika-covered Azovites were hosted and celebrated in the Jewish state. But Shoah-biz extraction schema is sacred.
What a pitiful picture of the castrated West.
Coventry was one of the centres of the British car industry, all repurposed for the war effort. It was hardly a purely civilian target. In any case the damage to Britain's mediaeval heritage caused by the Luftwaffe was nothing compared to the destruction wrought after the war by the planners and road builders. As one county surveyor was heard to say, "I don't give a damn about the town, I just want to get the traffic through to the coast."
When jewish thought rules - as it was now able to do untrammeled by any thought of beauty or heritage - then this is what you get.
Tucker Carlson said he had frequently been in Israel, and had never seen anything beautiful there.
Nothing Israeli, or even Jewish about the English disdain for age or beauty.
Hitler had two-engined bombers. Britain built 4-engines bombers from 1935 onwards. Had Hitler not been retarded he could gave worked out 4-engined bombers had range and load capacity to destroy targets at distance which was hardly likely to be France or Spain
It's not the range of bombers that is the point; rather whether they are deliberately and cynically turned on civilians or not.
Churchill did that.
So what ?
That is the tactic and still used by NATO
USAAF did it to Tokyo
It may well be the tactic used by these entities.
But they are jewish-controlled entities; and I am contrasting what decent people do when given the same set of circumstances.
Or rather - what they don't do, ie deliberately set out to murder civilians in some sort of Molech ritual.
German industrial capacity was already at its limits. The He177 was what happens when you let germans try to build a heavy bomber - an overly complicated, poorly flying dilly,
Maybe it's best to skip the heavy bombers altogether, and move straight into the world's first cruise missiles and SRBMs.
I specified "story", because the British have a fine history of manipulating facts. This is a quote from the encyclopedia Britannica. I am not going to argue this is accurate, rather a story the British tell each other.
"At the beginning of September, the Germans dropped some bombs, apparently by accident, on civilian areas in London, and the British retaliated by unexpectedly launching a bombing raid on Berlin. This so infuriated Hitler that he ordered the Luftwaffe to shift its attacks from Fighter Command installations to London and other cities."
https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Britain-European-history-1940
Those German bombers were attacking a power station in the East End, and one or two bombs went off target, and some civilians were killed.
This was then cynically exploited by Churchill to deliberately attack German civilians.
Crap
They were clearly dropping care packages with red bows
Replies like that don't win any prizes Peter.
Encyclopedia Britannica is American bought in 1901 and then owned by Sears Roebuck
To use your phrase, "So what?"
Americans are not noted for historical accuracy or bombing precision with high rates of blue on blue bombing in WW2 on allied troops
Error in U.S. Encyclopedia
24 Aug 1940 Luftwaffe bombers off-course hit East End London….. RAF visited Berlin 25 Aug 1940
Honorable behavior is not NATO thing. Who exactly owns the collective west deciders?
Billionaires who want to own and rule the world. We don't know their names, but perhaps we would recognize them if revealed (not likely). I think that Epstein was involved with this group. His videos and photos give them blackmail leverage. Their wealth gives them money to bribe, and to buy souls.
"...now lies a final chance to still bow out in a controlled manner, with dignity intact"
Well that is news to me. I was quite sure that ashkeNAZI 'Elensky didn't have any dignity.
I was taken by that as well, but then I considered the source.
Z plans to give a farewell concert, during which he will perform the Ukrainian national anthem on piano, with associated male dancers.
With his miniscule chosenite micro-dick?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E20TaZrgIaM
You said it, not I.
😂
I like this bit - a great metaphor for all the evil we are facing and what we need to do to turn the global Pedivore Epstein elite Mordor against itself Judo-style:
"..The problem for Ukraine is, this creates an accelerating feedback loop of self-defeat: the more resources Ukraine pours into hitting militarily insignificant targets, the more Russia’s actual military might remains unaffected by Ukrainian combat power, which means the faster Ukraine’s collapse will accelerate on the real front. In essence, Ukraine is vesting its entire strategy into a war against Russia’s civilian sentiment, which is as risky a move as it was for the US in Iran, wherein strikes against civil infrastructure turned even the diehard anti-clerical contingent against the US and enshrined their support of the Iranian leadership..."
Till the last…kid standing, after picking granddads from 72 from the streets, now the young women until these go in pre menopause, and finally the young ones 12 and 14 recruited or chased like in the last days of Berlin, by front soldiers in an electric wheel chair with only one forearm left.
I wonder if these abductees are even armed when they reach the front. I only ponder this becsuse if I had a gun in my hand by that point I'd be turning it on those who sent me there.
Dead either way so might as well get a proper bit of payback from the right people.
youre probably right. They are unarmed all the way to the front line.
Marlowe’ “The Jew of Malta” comes to mind.
Ukraine continues to be a thorn in Russia's side.
Russian oil production is reported to be down 2.55 million barrels per day, costing about 200 million a day.
This is what happens when Russia allowed Ukraine to keep retaliating instead of neutralizing it right from the start. Russia is oil-rationing due to shortages.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/fuel-rationing-hits-moscow-amid-second-wave-national-shortages
This current crisis has been deemed the 'second wave' fuel shortage to hit Russia.
"Ukraine strikes Russian ammo depot, six command posts in latest attacks"
Let us think a little bit different. At the very moment, the (real) oil prices are very, very high. Maybe the Russians export much more oil than they usually do and fill up the war chest? Because the predictions on filling levels of the oil reserve facilities were again and again wrong. Maybe the amount of oil supply on the international markets is much higher, but no one talks about this because it is the Russians who are selling more. This is just an idea, but it would explain a lot.
yes but SIMPLICICUS said that all of this was just kerosene PR drones
The refinery situation in Russia is getting WORSE, not better.
Geran launch volumes fell off a cliff over a month ago.
Soyuz facility struck and very likely seriously crippled. It's possible space launches may not be able to happen until/unless sanctions are removed.
I'm looking at the ACTUAL success metrics and seeing AFU racking up points while Russia does Shock and Awe.
So now the US will be launching Iskanders into Russia. No problemo, though, because we know they're all fired from Ukrainian territory, right? RIGHT? and have only the same range Russian Iskanders have. A few commoners will die. Nothing to worry about, move on.
I note that Russia's war against department stores is not drawing the same scorn Ukraine's did. It's sure to make Ukrainians love the Russians all the more when this is all over, if it ever is.
This war is not going to be decided with a 1 Fora against 1 Wildberries attrition campaign. The decision can be forced only if one side eliminates the supply lines of the other. And this is exactly where the RF has a built in advantage.
orly? you figured this how?
What advantage does RF have? Ukranus' supply lines are UNHINDERED except for the past month where RF finally decided to go after Odessa shipping.
RF has no weapons that can promptly reach ANY of the land borders into Ukranus. These transit points are outside their reach. Meanwhile, Ukranus hits the "supply lines" of Russia DAILY, destroying critical military sites, refineries, logistics, etc.
You're ass fkin backwards on this....I don't know what war you people are watching but I'm reminded of the delusions of NAFOs when they crowed about AFU winning in the 2023 offensive
"Hero" Zelensky... My stomach is in knots.
Hard to read sickening crap like that, I agree.
Did you notice that BZ, wunderboy, Nicolas Butylin (a geopolitic schooled posterboy) wrote this: ” The longer the former actor clings to power—while mountains of corruption files pile up at the Ukrainian anti-corruption agencies NABU and SAPO and the trust of ordinary people dwindles—the more the present reality overshadows the image of the war hero…”. Why write ”former actor clings to power” and mention the massive corruption at all if the article where supposed to portray him like a hero?
This article was an attack on Zelensky, badly camoflaged. Some forces in Germany, Poland and several other countries are fed up with Zelensky. They applied a glow of Hero on him, bowed when he came as a beggar and formed the publics opinions for years. They can easily throw him in the garbage bin now when it appears that his reign has been tainted by himself and his stubborn refusal to negoiate the inevitably land cessions.
I think the article said more than most people noticed.
Damning with faint praise
Well spotted, Mikey. The collective west wants Zelensky gone. His halo has been tarnished and they need a new wunderkind.
I think they're mostly growing tired of Zelensky and his crew of small hatters being so blatant in their theft of money meant to be killing Russians.
If Zelensky and "the Family" could have been a bit more restrained, it would be easier to keep propping him up as a hero even though western leaders know he's just a douchebag puppet who was installed because sending a few hundred thousand Slavs to their deaths wouldn't be a problem for him.
Agree. Blatant greediness is too obvious, even for the braindead western public.
The definition “judeo-Nazi” got steam on the nets.
He is a hero to Western neoliberals and neoconservatives, and the idiots who gobble up that propaganda.
Yes, but he has now reached his Expiration Date. That's why media and officialdom is now promoting Wunderkind Fedorov. Zelensky has become passé.
Zelensky and friends have been too blatant in their theft. So now Western governments are floating a replacement who is just as willing to bleed out every man in his country as long as Europe and the US will keep funneling weapons and money to Ukraine.
The death and destruction continues, day after day. No resolution in sight. A banker's dream. A banker's wet dream. What a planet we live on. The evil is beyond words.
Sadly, our masters' algorithm, according to which they operate, is and always has been, "Even the best of the Gentiles must be killed."
The only ray of light is that at least another six million jews will not have to die in pursuance of their goal.
"Another?" 🤔😉
Unfortunately, millions of jews - not just 6M, have died on a regular basis over the years.
Every time another 6M goes, my heart rejoices.
Lately Glenn Diesen had Prof. Hudson on the program, and opposite to normal shows, Hudson and Diesen talked about banking and credit, from acient Sumer up to modern times.
It all began with what "Banjo Billy" wrote about as "The Sumerian Swindle."