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Simon Robinson's avatar

Same as the UK's Trident Schlurpo. Two most recent, expensive, Test firings turned out to be like Damp Squibs to say the least. The last one, with Defence Minister Grant Schapps aboard who witnessed the debacle reportedly saw the Missile nearly hit the Sub it was fired from rather than travelling its intended 3,500 miles.

Peter Williamson's avatar

Funny that since U.K. draws its missiles from a common pool in King‘s Bay, GA so why did U.K. get duds rather than US SSBNs ?

Simon Robinson's avatar

I couldn't possibly say Peter. From what I recall, which was widely reported; the first test, somewhere in the mid Atlantic, some years back saw the Missile head off towards Florida, which was then aborted in-flight. The second one, as I recounted, plopped into the briny several hundred metres away. I can only guess that the projectiles they used were from their current stock, but one would expect that their functionality would have been ascertained beforehand. I also believe that these tests cost several £millions apiece. Kind regards.

Tim's avatar
Aug 17Edited

At least those subs which can be put to sea - is it one out of six? - are held together with superglue.

Asgard2208's avatar

Duct tape, wasn't it? Whatever. Unbelievably pathetic whichever way you slice and dice it.

But, hey, isn't that the same Navy that advertises for Admirals on LinkedIn?

Charles Langlois's avatar

How many admirals does it need to command four frigates, two destroyers and one submarine, which according to the Daily Telegraph, is the sum total of useable ships the Navy currently has?

Tim's avatar

No - Superglue.

The story was that it was used to attach some bolt heads that had sheared off.

TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

You never heard of free markets?

Tim's avatar

Think this is slightly preferable to the erstwhile concentration on rum, sodomy, and the lash.

Ernest Judd's avatar

At least the UK Subs did a pretty good Xmas song back in 1978!

Free Nootron's avatar

Glad to see they're good for something at least.

aDoozy's avatar

Yes! Mind your own business, Trump & Co.! He has turned the name of the USA to MUD in countries across the globe.

Tim's avatar

I'd put it several rungs lower than mud.

Marledonna's avatar

rightfully so... it wasn't trump that financed the engine of both world wars, it wasn't trump who started the cold war, it wasn't trump who started a war with Vietnam, it wasn't trump that was responsible for the first 20 trillion of debt. It's the empire's mentality that is exposed by trump and he should be applauded for that part: show the world the true colors of the American foreign policy and deep state.

Jimmy p's avatar

Applauded for what! Continuation of American aggression, while being too dumb to plead ignorance? Oh, but enriching himself at the cost of the bulk of the world.

Marledonna's avatar

The majority of the western population thinks the USA is the shining city on the hill. It is close to impossible to make people aware of the fact that the USA have been a terrorist state for a very long time. That the USA militarized the cold war (NSC-68), but also financed the engine of 2 world wars. Mostly to make money, but also to fight communism, a system the elites fear because it would take all their assets (rightfully so)

Will Catchum's avatar

Anyone paying attention knew that decades ago. The Orange Retard didnt show us anything other than how ignorant he truly is.

Dhdh's avatar

Because of the Jew.

Kolokotronis's avatar

All for Israel and the Epstein class.

jsarnak's avatar

I have been saying the same thing, ever since people started calling for nukes. The US military has shown nothing but incompetence and weapon systems failures. Do we really want to see McHale's Navy (I guess only old folks like me will get the reference) trying to fire off 40-50 year old nuclear weapons??

Luís Nunes's avatar

Something like 10% are likely to work, that's more Iranians than I want to see die. Never mind proliferation, that boat has sailed...

LaVerne Karras's avatar

If the Iranians are as resourceful as the Palestinians, they will recover the duds and send them back, this time working and as a hypersonic missile warhead.

GM's avatar

The US has covertly used dozens of tactical nukes in the last quarter century, and they clearly worked.

So you will lose that bet.

Mike O’Neill's avatar

Irishman here: Most people won’t be aware of this. It would be useful for you to supply a few references. Thanks.

Gnuneo's avatar

I've been hearing this line since the CIA started putting out 9/11 disinfo, the "Towers were brought down by a neutron bomb" BS. Then it was a nuke used in the invasion of Iraq.

On and on - and yet never a shred of real evidence for all this.

Doubt there'll be any coming now, either.

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

Read the "ground zero model" and you will be surprised (Written by Heinz Pommer) . I reviewed personally all calculations twice and they are correct.

Gnuneo's avatar

If this has to do with 9/11, I once had the pleasure of reading a report from WTC employees that a couple of weeks before the attack, entire floors were cleared for "maintenance"- and workers worked on the very structural beams that defying the construction physics, managed to fail after a very, very loud bang and explosion.

Which as this was a long-planned operation, AIMED at bringing down these costly white elephants that had just been sold and re-insured, would seem a more likely explanation that the use of a FUCKING NUKE.

But that's just imo.

The USA scrubbed all mention of a study done by a European uni specialised in such matters, that found very modern military grade explosives powder in the WTC detritus.

Not radioactivity. Military grade explosives residue.

That bit isn't "imo".

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

Nukes where in the basements of three buildings from day one, because they were part of the demolition plan.

Jimmy p's avatar

All I know for sure is Jews profited with lucky insurers, random film crews etc etc

People are retarded not to see the truth

TJE's avatar

flipping deranged idiots- MILITARY GRADE explosives are not what are used in demolitions

STFU already

thatguy's avatar

Yes, exactly Gnuneo. It is a well known technique. It is part of "cognitive infiltration". Cass Sunstein laid it out in a paper for the Obama administration in 2008, I think it was. Specifically designed method of flooding the zone (on internet forums like this one that run counter to mainstream media and political opinions). Sunstein specifically mentioned "9/11 and other dangerous conspiracy theories" for focusing these cognitive infiltration campaigns.

They flood the zone and muddy the waters, causing unnecessary infighting and confusion, among other methods. They are likely well funded and organized, but info on that is not made public.

But it was covertly going on well before 2008 from the first days of the internet. But it became more common and "urgent" for the govt when 9/11 conspiracy facts were becoming very widely shared.

Dhdh's avatar

9/11 was done by the Jew. See dancing Israelis

TJE's avatar

no it wasn't

but they had intel it was going to happen

so did the French; they had people in the room with OBL and the US was warned

James Charles's avatar

“ . . . out of the 4000 Israelis believed to have worked in and around the WTC and the Pentagon only FIVE died. 5/4000 Israelis. Statistically, with no forewarning about 10% (ie 400 of 4000) would have died; a toll as low as 200-300/4000 would not convincingly indicate foreknowledge. But only FIVE Israelis died and two of the five were aboard the allegedly hijacked flights; thus only three Israelis died in the WTC itself on 9/11. NB - this applies to Israeli nationals, NOT American Jews. Many Jews died in the WTC on 9/11.”?

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

Paul's avatar

This is why it's a lot less important to me to know who dunnit, than it is to know the official narrative is a lie. Realistically, I can't know, I don't have the resources to investigate and find out. But I can figure out the narrative is BS, just by using my brain.

Example: Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck with a 30.06 round. Soon as I heard that I knew it was a lie, and thus assumed it all was a lie. Coz a 30:06 in the neck would have blown his head off, at a bare minimum. Period. Even with "strong bones". I don't know for sure what happened, but I do know for sure he wasn't shot with a 30:06. A coverup like that indicates probable zionist involvement.

It's obvious the 9/11 narrative is BS. At its simplest, 2 planes and 3 buildings. So the whole story is fake. Default assumption: it wuz the jews. This time, plenty of evidence to support it.

They set us squabbling amongst ourselves about what actually happened, when few of us have the resources or the brain to actually find out. Convenient. It might be more to the point to stick to what we really do know: the official narrative is a lie.

Ernest Judd's avatar

Zio-Kikes did 9/11:

Israeli Mossad, CIA, MI6 all worked on the 9/11 propject

pepa65's avatar

The amount of heat that was present even weeks and months after 9/11 could never have been achieved with any non-nuclear explosive, even on a warehouse scale. Try this site: https://www.911history.de

Dhdh's avatar

lol. Come one. Citation needed.

TJE's avatar

no they have not used any such thing

you have ZERO evidence of this kookbat shit

Abe's avatar

They only worked back then because when the US used them they were the only ones that had a monopoly on the nukes. That won't work today, unless you want to be on the receiving end of nukes as well.

Marvin Gardens2's avatar

i've wondered myself if the aging US nukes would even launch :-)

John's avatar

Knew a guy who worked at a US nat'l lab and his job was to assess the viability of the aging stock using complex models. Although he couldn't divulge the lab assessment, I had the impression that there were problems. He and most of his colleagues fled the lab in a huge brain drain when it was privatized and all employees risked losing their prior pensions. This was over two decades ago. Since that time the US started replacing the warhead stock (under Trump 1.0). Question is how much they have replaced, and how well the replacements work in light of the test ban, and the fact that the

US has a hard time just making artillery shells these days. Making the parts is a job that requires ultra-precision world-class cutting-edge machining work, yet I recall seeing an ad suggesting that they were hiring locally off the street at the Pantex plant in Amarillo for $20/hour, which I found surprising. Perhaps everything is automated by now, and they just need people to monitor the machinery? I don't know. But in any case, it seems that doubts are growing...

Luís Nunes's avatar

Not as badly run down as the navy, but the missiles are older than the officers commanding them. The failure rate in the latest exercise was hillarious.

On the other hand, only one needs to work for hundreds of thousands of innocent Iranians to die.

Victor's avatar

Billy, I though you were above such nonsense! 😉

abcdefg's avatar

This is seriously competitive!

PFC Billy's avatar

I understand I can sell my commanding pole position to fortune 500 advertising & PR consortia.

Gnuneo's avatar

You also get top billing on Myrotvorets!

There's so many upsides, lol.

Occam's avatar

You people and your "first".

So tiresome.

PFC Billy's avatar

Yes, I was quite out out of breath.

PFC Billy's avatar

I couldn't believe I reached the comment section ahead of the usual volery of cachinnating cockatoos!

The Spectre's avatar

They have to blame something for carrier problems.

I would think those up to 20 bln ships can be independent from supplies for weeks and months, they are floating cities.

What they would need is munition resuply, if fireing a lot. And possible refuelling on long distances.

They had time to stock up, as operation was prepared for at least 7 months, since the previous attack.

The Spectre's avatar

Its a painful crime not to supply soap to marines, as much as it is not supply it to prisoners

1==='s avatar

Trump is reducing the marines to the poorest of the poor slumville conditions.How dare he, it makes my blood boil Soap makes lather, lather makes bubbles, bubbles reflect the light, the blue sky, freedom. The man's a corrupt, inveterate liar without an ethic in site.

aDoozy's avatar

Thank you, Victor. Larry's post is interesting and informative. It is a must-read for all who have been following the story of the shoddy treatment of the US sailors.

Wim Roffel's avatar

Larry's piece explains that the US is short on supply ships - thanks to misguided budget cuts.

What puzzles me is the bureaucracy, the not-invented-here syndrome, the total lack of imagination. Why is there no one to hire a few ships in Mombassa and to run the supply from there?

War is improvisation and they seem incapable of doing that.

Victor's avatar

My understanding is that these ships are specially designed to transfer loads between ships - special equipment.

JohnT's avatar

Aircraft carriers can land helicopters day and night.

Victor's avatar

We are talking fuel, medical sanitary and food, drinking water for 5000 souls. Helicopters running 24 hours a day would not be able to handle that - not even close.

Nick's avatar

"And possible refuelling on long distances."

No, that's the one thing they don't need. Both the Nimitz class and the Ford class are powered by nuclear reactors which run for years before they need refuelling.

Victor Scarpia's avatar

But aircraft need fuel. Otherwise what's the point of an aircraft carrier?

Michael  Lynch's avatar

Nuclear powered carriers nay run for years, people and aircraft do not. The screening destroyers are fueled by oil. The carrier is not the problem, the carrier group concept is the problem. This is WW2 strategy and logistics run on a shoestring.

DepewtyDawg's avatar

Man your sources suck. All poorly sourced, lots of wishcasting and spin, two dead waves of Iran leadership, more to come, us leading rhe world in ai and tech, outsized revenue generation per capita, nonstop innovation, space x, blue origin, starlink, your predictions suck as bad as your sources, pro publica??? Hahahahaha. Doesn’t mean things are perfect. All carriers can launch fully armed attack aircraft. All sorts of reporting baloney, as false as alleged Russia casualty reports from Ukraine. You have suckered your readers. Right about a few things wrong about much. Way too much motivated reasoning, and desire for giving outcome than actual predictive capability.

SG_observer's avatar

Hmm what are you high on? It seems to be quite powerful.....

thatguy's avatar

Sounds like a dedicated Fox News watcher. Has a huge portrait of Sean Hannity in his bedroom. Buys lots of Trump-branded items such as the Trump Watch, Trump Fragrance, and plenty of Trump Vodka.

Victor's avatar

I understand the Trump Fragrance is exceptional.

grr's avatar

Is that a euphemism for the odour of his alleged public farts?

Victor's avatar

Partly, but mainly for that which issues from his diapers.

Charles Langlois's avatar

In Wales at least, "trump" and "fart" are synonyms, from long before the eponymous POTUS.

Nescio's avatar

Especially downwind... ;-)

Tim's avatar

Trump hopium trumps all.

Trust the plan, as we who know about his 5D chess skills always say.

Occam's avatar

$500 he's a boomer.

Y.D. Kim's avatar

I've lived in Singapore for a long time and now live nearby., I am glad to see a Singaporean ID among the 4% (pure bloods??) remaining in a comment section filled with white people, but I am starting to suspect that you might be Eurasian.

SG_observer's avatar

Nope, all 4 grandparents from different parts of China, but also educated unlike the typical immigrants of that generation. The freedom group I set up to provide a safe harbour during the covid madness were all chinese too.. discussing and mapping out counter-strategies offline in order to keep the spyware from figuring out what we're doing. The death toll among the jabbed is still climbing .. I don't think that can be hidden anymore by the end of this year as the population and fertility of all the heavily mRNA jabbed countries in east asia (Japan, Taiwan, S K, Thailand) is dropping like a stone. No way in heck can they prop up the property bubble and the cracks are obvious - it was also the last property bubble standing in the world.

JohnT's avatar

He prompts the response "you got any left?"

grr's avatar

LOL brainwashed 'meriKunt inbound.

Kon's avatar

A woman is alife support system for a Cun-

Gerald Film

Id love to say this or send an email to von der Liar

TJE's avatar

i mean, evolutionarily, that is literally what they are

what is above their lip line really has no real "purpose" in any historical sense

PFC Billy's avatar

@DepewtyDawg

Perhaps our host spends too much time on proper capitalization, punctuation and the exercise & feeding of his pet thesaurus, instead of perusing the dependable MSM for their consensus opinion. No one could indict YOU on such charges.

ZebraZ's avatar

You should change your profile name to Dipshit-Dawg!

Alyosha's avatar

Muh, cope list galore.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha...ha

Victor's avatar

No one doubts America's technology expertise. What you apparently do not understand is that they poured all their money into technology and profits and almost zero into maintenance, proper engineering, survivable logistics, etc. Plus, as Andrei Martyanov has said on multiple occasions, the US leadership does not know the first thing about actual war, most of whom possess an educational background in business administration, international relations, political science or advanced basket-weaving. As a result the US system has degenerated over the years into an over-stretched, poorly maintained military, a hollowed-out version of what it once was with its leadership more interested in not making waves and what Board of Directors they will sit on when they retire.

Alyosha's avatar

America thrives on brain drain. My ICT Godzilla relative was offered presidential level salary already 20+ years ago. Could easily command seven figures now.

So, would his ICT work be America's tech expertise or my relative's tech expertise?

Victor's avatar

Good point, but as it is all done under American financing and management setting the priorities, I would say it is an American result.

Alyosha's avatar

So why they don't finance and manage American talents then? They have the best educational system supposedly?

If you take a look at the destruction they cause around the world, I think that brain drain is one of the planned outcomes. Create destruction and lack of hope and perspective, so people leave. Imagine the flood of Iranian engineers leaving.

Also, every main competitor of USA is somehow sanctioned and has been for decades. How would American genius operate under the sanctions conditions Russia is subjected to today? And it has been under constant sanctions and other BS since USSR was established.

Victor's avatar

Because furin labour is cheaper.

Alyosha's avatar

Here is Ray Dalio explaining that 1% of US population make things happen, half of them are foreigners. Many from that half eventually become Americans or have multiple citizenships, like Thiel.

https://t.me/RussianBaZa/39751

Also, Sergei Brin, for example, does not count as foreigner anymore, yet he was an immigrant that eventually made certain things happen.

Sure, US company takes the credit for somebody's work and therefore can be perceived as "American tech", so that people like our fren Dawg can dream his exceptional dreams. ;)

Freddy10's avatar

Operation paperclip seeded almost all of US advanced technology.

Tim's avatar

Only in aeronautics and rocketry.

TJE's avatar

bullshit

the US had already invented electricity, telephone, and powered flight, among other things

Feral Finster's avatar

"Here is Ray Dalio explaining that 1% of US population make things happen, half of them are foreigners. "

It works.

Alyosha's avatar

You missed the point of the discusion with this mantra.

But you are also right, it works - Muhriqanis are semi-literate nation.

TJE's avatar

why are you mentioning all juze? they are ALL foreigners

Tim's avatar

Can't make anything technical w/o Chinese-controlled rare earths.

Hence their latest madcap scheme to drill down 6km into the seabed off one of the Japanese islands.

Now that's a job everyone is going to apply for.

Guido Vandeven's avatar

Your diapers or shall I say sources are leaking

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Yes, to many western (democratic) sources saying a lot more or less than the article.

thatguy's avatar

I wouldn't put too much importance on the Team Red vs Team Blue performances. The mainstream media in the US is 100% supportive of both the Iran War and the proxy war of aggression against Russia. They only criticize Trump for not winning and not doing more damage to Iran faster.

If you were reading Simplicius before the 2024 election, you would know that Simplicius was always highly critical of Biden just as he is now critical of Trump (rightly so).

But if you do insist on seeing more pro-Trump, pro-Republican Party political rhetoric, there is always Fox News, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer, Truth Social, and many more sources that are easy to find online and on TV. Very strong Zionist bias.

And no, Trump WAS NOT "forced into this war" against his will by Israel, as you commented below. Trump has ALWAYS been intensely pro-Israel and anti-Iran. There is even a Youtube clip of a late 1980s news program where he enthusiastically talks about "taking Kharg Island". Roy Cohn was Trump's mentor.

I do appreciate the idea you have expressed elsewhere that these news stories might be, at least in part, disinformation of some kind. Imo, they are there to actually help sell Trump's massive increases in spending for the Department of War (and the MIC contractors, of course).

Mikey Johnson's avatar

I am well aware of american press - they are all the same - only the shading is different.

I reacted on Simplicius article, picking cherries and hiding the essentials from the real articles. Spinning narratives is of course ok but claiming its an objective analysis of the matters is another.

I have followed Simplicius almost from the beginning and I dont like when he trades objective, clean analysis, whatever the outcome for this narrative spinning.

Why I am focused on the ”Israeli initative” is because ”truth” often evaporates within hours of an event and then gets buried by the usual smoke&mirrors.

Rubio said within hours of the attack that US was forced to act because Israel would do it in anyway. And havent you noticed all the sabotage Israel has done to every eventual diplomatic solution?

John Galtsky's avatar

"us leading rhe world in ai and tech,"

That's propaganda for morons. It's not a compliment to your IQ that you fell for it.

In reality, the Chinese currently lead the world in tech, American AIs depend upon foreign talent, work far less efficiently than Chinese AIs and they can't do shit without technology made in China.

The essential industry in tech, making processors with vast numbers of transistors on them, completely collapsed in the US nearly 30 years ago. Since then the world's most sophisticated processors have been built outside of the US by Chinese people. On occasion the federal government has thrown a few tens of billions in bribes at tech companies to build a new chip factory in the US but every one of those has been an economic failure with all of them coming into production (if they succeeded in getting into production) so late and so far behind that they were already obsolete compared to what was being manufactured by Chinese people.

The current, big, propaganda-for-morons bribe is the US's attempt to build flagship GPUs upon which AI depends in the US. So far that's failed despite many tens of billions in bribes thrown at tech companies who produce their products outside of the US. It's also brought us the spectacle of the US government becoming the biggest shareholder in Intel (at 10%) as a result of the $50 billion bribe to Intel to build an uneconomic factory in the US.

Nvidia is the world leader at GPU production on which American AI depends. Technically, it's an "American" company but it was founded by Chinese, its engineering staff designing those top chips is about 99% non-American, and its products are manufactured by Chinese people overseas. Neither the US nor Americans control the factories that actually produce those chips overseas.

As far as "US ai," that's a typically American thing: designed and engineered mostly by non-Americans, it is typically "American" in that it depends on throwing lots of cash at a problem. Chinese ai is much better in that it's smarter. Flagship Chinese AI models typically outperform American AI engines by a factor of 20. If an American AI like ChatGPT or Claude takes a server farm with 20,000 computers to function, a Chinese AI like Deepseek can equal it running only on 1,000 computers (for those people who believe Fox News, let me help you out with the arithmetic: 20,000 is a much bigger number than 1,000).

But that greater efficiency also means that the Chinese AI can work two times better than the American AI when it runs on 2,000 computers, ten times less than the American AI requires for its performance. It also means that, given the same number of computers in the server farm, the Chinese AI can work two times better than the American AI even if the Chinese AI runs on GPUs that have ten times *fewer* transistors than the GPUs the American AI requires.

That's a big deal because making chips that are ten times simpler than Nvidia's flagship GPUs is pretty easy to do. It's so easy that China can chug out unlimited numbers of them at very low cost so it doesn't need to use the same (also Chinese) factories that build the most sophisticated chips for Nvidia. Heck, it's so easy to do that Russian chip factories can chug away and crank out unlimited numbers for use by Russian AI server farms.

Being able to run twice as good with chips that are ten times simpler brings a lot of benefits when deploying AI. It becomes cheaper, much cheaper, both for initial capitalization and also for running costs: chips that are ten times simpler require less energy for operation and cooling. The energy costs of huge server farms are a crippling expense. Reducing those, even in a country where energy is cheap like Russia, is a big deal.

It also means that AI can be deployed in more mobile applications. When you don't need a flagship GPU from Nvidia to get totally intense AI but can use a chip that's ten times simpler, you can run with smaller chips, smaller support memory and other circuitry and otherwise reduce the iron involved to a much smaller, simpler package. That lets you use much more sophisticated AIs where cost and size matter a lot, like AI-powered autonomous drones, autonomous robots, better AI in appliances and industrial machines/robots, or even, heck, AI powered artillery shells which can use AI for terminal guidance.

So no, the US doesn't lead the world in ai and tech. It leads the world in *lying* about ai and tech.

Gnuneo's avatar

Well written and researched, but you *KNOW* he won't be reading it, right? That would take more than 3secs attention span, so give the poor fucker a break.

abcdefg's avatar

I was shocked to see the latest NVidia GPUs consume 2300kw! That is an insane amount of electricity for a tiny square of metal.

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

New photon based processors are tested right now for the market. The average speed/throughput is 3000 times faster than the fastest Nvidia processor. And now comes the hammer: with the power consumption of Watt per hour of the fastest Nvidia processor you can feed a photon based processor for 600 years! Do you see the problem? All investments in data centers and power generation are just wasted money. This is the real elephant in the room, the global south and Russia are waiting for.

TJE's avatar

oh good god, you people are delusional

you think fucking africa is going to bring a photonics chip to market? ROTFL

Russia? They cannot even protect their only space rocket plant.

silicon is the technology of here and now, photon based chips are quite a ways away

John Galtsky's avatar

Yes, he's delusional about "new photon based processors," but you've gone beyond that by pitching truly low-brow propaganda for morons: First, there is no "space rocket plant" in the world in any country that is protected from drone strikes. None of them. Not in any country. Doh. Second, that has absolutely nothing to do with a country's ability to produce semiconductors at any scale.

As it turns out, Russia produces a lot of semiconductors and genuinely superlative military semiconductors. When it comes to processors they prefer parallel architectures that stamp out lots of relatively less complex CPUs which they can harness in parallel. If you have the software chops to handle that (Russia does), that's generally a much more cost effective path to performance than putting a zillion transistors on one die.

That's also what China does: their AIs are profoundly more efficient than US AIs so China can take advantage of very many processors that are very powerful but not over the top, insanely complex and costly to manufacture. It's a chip level version of what data centers already do: they're full of basically PC architecture machines chugging away all together. They don't have just one giant 1970's style Cray or Amdahl machine.

Where Russia leads is algorithms: the smart man gets faster and better solutions by using better algorithms. The mathematically-impaired man throws money and faster and more expensive processors.

TJE's avatar

idiot- those countries aren't in a long range drone war and don't depend on their rocket assembly plants for the ENTIRETY of critical space launches, do they?

the lengths you will go to in order to excuse the stupidest behavior by Russians is amazing.

jfc, parallel CPUs....dude, seriously...GTFOH. You don't know wtf you're talking about AGAIN. It's like you think that nobody in the west already invented parallelized CPU/GPU farms....wtf. Like what you said is so fucking absurdly wrong, I'm not even going to do anything other than LMAO

I am not even going to bother with responding to any of this utter nonsense....it's complete trash. You are so utterly ignorant about processor architecture, software, I mean I could spend all day listing the stuff you don't know shit about.

John Galtsky's avatar

?? The latest and most high end Nvidia GPUs for AI and data centers take about 700 watts. 2300 kilowatts would be for a data center, not just for one chip. But it is a lot of power. The data centers in Northern Virginia's "Data Center Alley" use up 25% of all the electricity produced in the state of Virginia. I mean, you'd think they were running aluminum smelters or something, but nope, that's just racks and racks full of computers.

Gnuneo's avatar

Man, I hope you're not dissing all that lovely AI slop they are producing?!?

I don't think I could live a day without seeing crocodiles and butterflies kissing while sitting in a hammock on top of mount Everest.

I mean, what value would life have anymore????

And what the hell kind of world is AI going to make once it's rubbed us out?

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

In 600 years you have 5256000 hours. Today's photon based processors consume 0,56 Watt per hour. The ones tested right now consume 0,00136 Watt per hour. Multiply now 5256000 per 0,00136 and you come close to 700 Watt per hour.

The 2300kwh (per data center) was clear to both of us. But not to others. We both were not precise enough.

Nick's avatar

"consume 0,56 Watt per hour"

One watt means one joule of energy per second.

Perhaps you mean 0.56 joules per hour? That may or may not be correct but at least it makes sense, "watts per hour" does not.

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

The Nvidia H100 (Data Center) consumes ~700 Watts (0.70 kWh per hour).

You should always specify the interval as done in the specs of say Nvidia too.

The above transformation of Watt in joules (you gave above) is correct.

TJE's avatar

there EXIST NO "today's photon based processors"- these things DO NOT EXIST YET

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

When I worked at the ETHZ in Zurich, a friend of mine was creating a new bus architecture (Dr Werner Graf). His area was holographic material, used to store images with gigabytes of information. There was nothing like that available on the market but now it is.

If you take time, in reading publications about photon based CPU's you will be surprised where China got already.

Between research and a mature product ready for the market exists always a lag of years (sometimes decades but not centuries). In the case of photon based CPU's China is very close to present this new technology.

NiggleS's avatar

2300 kW would be just *one* aisle of server racks in a (small) data centre....

Martin's avatar

I understand that they are well ahead of the US on G6, which is exceptionally fast. Able to transfer and download data in a matter of seconds.

No's avatar

And all the debt run up to finance the expensive, complex, but inadequate American AI, is going to break the bank, and relatively soon.

There's no way those data centers will ever turn a profit.

TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

It's a large debt circle that is going to turn into a circular firing squad. The global financial fall out will be magnificent to witness.

Don't worry, the large profits have been siphoned off and the losses will be paid for by someone else.

TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Your reply was about as long as Simplicius’ article. Gotta say, your reply was excellent.

TJE's avatar

the shit you wrote is abject propaganda and utter bullshit

deepshit does not do what Claude does, not even close

they goalseek the benchmarks just like all of ChinaTech does. If their methodology is better, which is copy copy copy, then you will see everyone migrate there.

The notion that shitbag chips like China produces can "equal" NVDA's....when the latter are made on process nodes at TSM that China does not even have access to.

Look, roughly 90% of the people on this comments section need to STFU...you are among them. Before long, China will surpass the USA entirely, as it already has in many areas but today is not that day

John Galtsky's avatar

"If their methodology is better, which is copy copy copy, then you will see everyone migrate there."

Deepseek is not a copy of ChatGPT or Claude or any of the other American AIs. If you knew anything about AI architectures you'd know that. Deepseek runs typically 20 times more efficiently than ChatGPT precisely because it uses a very different approach.

It's been decades since the Chinese approached markets by copying the West. These days they lead markets precisely because they are ahead of the west. Their car industry, for example, leads the West by almost every metric. US and European cars look like old-fashioned shit compared to new Chinese cars.

TSMC *is* in China, you moron. It was created by Chinese people, it is owned by Chinese people, and it is operated by Chinese people. The idea that the Chinese people in Taiwan are in any way different (smarter, better looking, richer, in better physical shape, etc) than Chinese people on the mainland is just plain stupid American idiocy. In point of fact the same people who created and run TSMC also have created and run fabs on the mainland.

It's the *Chinese* people who are smarter than badly educated Americans, and that's true wherever they are: the mainland, Taiwan, Silicon Valley, or anywhere else.

TJE's avatar

bwahahahahahahahaha

TSMC is Taiwan...this is not China.

And right now, who is using Deepflake? Very few. I know exactly what type of AI architecture it is, moron...I'm actually published in this field.

John Galtsky's avatar

"TSMC is Taiwan...this is not China." Taiwan is China, and the Chinese people there are the same in terms of smarts as Chinese people on the mainland. If you knew anything at all about either TSMC or the Chinese people in Taiway you'd know that yes, indeed, the very same Chinese people who created and run TSMC also have created and run fabs on the mainland.

That's why everybody with an IQ over 40 understands that your false claim that China is somehow behind the US are nonsense: the US depends on TSMC and the Chinese people who created it, and while US efforts to produce significant numbers of front-rank chips in the US have failed, the Chinese continue to successfully produce front-rank chips in China, the expertise of those Chinese people who created TSMC helping them.

I guess that's what really annoys jingoistic creeps like you: that the Chinese people are working harder, smarter, and more effectively than a debased American elite and beaten down / dumbed down American workforce.

"I'm actually published in this field." Like where, the Fox News comments section?

TJE's avatar

you stupid motherfucker

all you have is anti-US bullshit to spout

TAIWAN IS NOT CHINA regardless of the co-ethnicity of the PEOPLE in each place.

MORON.

I'm published in the SPIE photonics journal...fuckhead

abcdefg's avatar

ProPublica?? You need to tweak your ChatGPT by the look of it. That was the previous post.

Simplicius's avatar

Remember, that "world leading" AI was used to plan and run the Iran war, which the US humiliatingly lost.

Some leadership.

Gnuneo's avatar

It did do good assassinations though. Mainly of schoolgirls, same as its targeting in Gaza.

Which, needless to say, was both 100% intentional.

Ernest Judd's avatar

Enjoy high quality ganga;

Rid yourself of the zElensky Powder...

TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Hahaha…Iran has eighty or so ayatollahs, all of them are highly educated.

What the fuck is “outsized revenue generation per capita”?

Did I mention Iran is also an aerospace power?

TJE's avatar

moron- they can LAUNCH THEM but those planes need refueling to have any kind of USABLE combat radius, especially for a large country like Iran and from the standoff distances the CVNs are forced to operate at

you are spouting delusion and it's clear you don't know WTF you're talking about in terms of payload-range

Ismaele's avatar

Yes, Iran did down a few American and Israeli drones intact and Iranians are now showcasing them - see photos and video here: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/i/211203518/news-and-updates-from-iran (as a bonus you will find other news and updates from Yemen, Lebanon and Iran, if you scroll up).

The Spectre's avatar

Well, reverse engineering is priority, than showcasing

Victor's avatar

Yes, but showcasing sends a message.

ZebraZ's avatar

As if they will not do that or haven’t done that to other US drones in the past!

Alyosha's avatar

It is necessary to showcase them every single time, because Muhriqani govts like to lie non stop.

Bash's avatar

What do you think happens to the Gulf countries, medium term?

Tim's avatar

They organize mutually-beneficial outcomes with Iran.

GM's avatar

No, they don't.

Iranian missiles will always be much less threatening to the Gulf regimes than the prospect of an Islamic revolution.

This is the part that all these wishful-thinking "analyses" always miss -- internal politics dictates foreign policy. And internal politics is class politics, but when you cater to an "alternative" right/libertarian audience, the world "class" is taboo, so such an analysis cannot be done.

Gnuneo's avatar

Missiles are much easier to hide from than raging mobs wanting your head.

Tim's avatar
Aug 17Edited

We beat them back in the recent World Cup; and can do so again.

Harry Kane and Jude Bellingham have been tasked with the job.

Gnuneo's avatar

I have no idea what that means, or who those two are, Tim.

Literally not the foggiest.

As you mentioned corporate spectator sport however, that's probably why.

If they are sport related, leave me in my ignorance please!

Tim's avatar

England's goalscorers in the recent worldwide contest of skill, determination, and sheer bloody-mindedness.

It was quite a spectacle, especially when they were 4 - 0 up at half-time against France in the third-place playoff.

Iran exited the proceedings very early on.

Feral Finster's avatar

Even if that were going to happen (there is a reason that the gulfie security services are chosen exclusively from members' of the rulers' tribes and run by close and trusted relatives), the gulfie tyrants would just pack up in their private jets and bugger off for Paris or Geneva or whereever.

There also is a reason that those tyrants stash their loot abroad.

Gnuneo's avatar

I think it was Alex Krainer, but may have been Hudson or Wolff, who said recently that if the billionaires threaten to leave because of higher taxes, then be happy to wave goodbye to them. They cost far more than any benefit they bring - and that goes double for the totalitarian oil sheikh 'monarchies'.

Let them take their money, the rest of the population - if they get a better govt - will soon start to get wealthier anyway.

Feral Finster's avatar

I am not sure you understand how the gulfie governments work.

Tim's avatar

Implicit in my remark was that the totally-corrupt Sykes-Picot monarchies, which are in control by virtue of their deferential attitude to the previous hegemon, must first be eradicated - and then these nations can do what I have suggested they should.

Gnuneo's avatar

Once those Anglo-created faux sheikhdoms fall, the statelets will revert back to their historical roots. Iran, Oman etc, will get more land, population, and oil revenue.

Danf's avatar

There is no doubt that the US wildly miscalculated, perhaps criminally so. Iran has managed it's limited resources and capabilities with intelligence. Now we are reduced to an economic stalemate with the Iranian domestic economy on one side of the balance and the ALL IMPORTANT US Bond market on the other side.

Hubris borne of decades of political and economic corruption cripples the US. But Hubris is also at play in Iran borne of political and economic corruption with a thick layer of Religious mania on top.

Your comment

"Iranian missiles will always be much less threatening to the Gulf regimes than the prospect of an Islamic revolution."

Was a good reminder to me that the situation is much more nuanced than simply: "plucky Iran standing up to the mean, bumbling Americans"

abcdefg's avatar

They will either dance to the Iranian tune or go broke and be targets for Iranian influence operations.

Feral Finster's avatar

The only influence operations that matter in the Gulf are those on the ruling families.

The ruling families are all Sunni (this was entirely intentional on the part of the British). Good luck getting any kind of Shia influence.

ebear's avatar

"The loss of power meant sailors were without galley services, toilets and air conditioning. Potable water was also affected, Comer said. He did not respond to a question about how sailors handled waste."

How does this even happen? Every ship I ever worked on had (at least) two diesel generators that were independent of the main engine(s) and had their own dedicated electrical panel for distribution to the ship's grid. Redundancy is a major consideration when designing ships as you can't exactly pull into a service station when something goes wrong. I can't believe a navy ship wasn't designed with the same considerations, so what exactly is going on here?

Victor's avatar

The shareholders must be served above all.

Alyosha's avatar

Could sabotage be a reason, if reports are true?

ebear's avatar

This really has me puzzled because I used to work on ships, specifically in engineering, so I looked into it and now I'm even more puzzled.

Here's the original article:

https://news.usni.org/2026/08/14/uss-benfold-was-stalled-in-the-south-china-sea-for-four-days-after-engineering-casualty

Wikipedia has the specs for this class of ships:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Benfold

which are powered by these:

https://www.rolls-royce.com/products-and-services/defence/naval/gas-turbines/ag9140-generator-set.aspx

So three jet turbine powered generators to twin screws. Redundancy,as you'd expect. I would also expect a diesel powered emergency generator somewhere on an upper deck so if the ship is heavily damaged and the engine spaces are destroyed or flooded, you can still keep the lights on and the radios, radar etc. working.

"engineering casualty involving its generators”

Contaminated fuel? Could be, except I expect each gen-set has its own independent fuel supply, again for reasons of redundancy. Besides which, you don’t just load a bunch of fuel without testing it for contaminants. As for sabotage, it would be difficult, again given multiple redundancy.

This last statement from the press release really jumped out at me:

"The Navy is investigating the cause of the engineering failure.”

Seriously? You couldn’t immediately figure out what went wrong - on a war ship no less?

Something’s not right with this picture. Even if two gen-sets were disabled the ship should still be able to limp along on the third set. Warships are designed to keep working even when heavily damaged, so I just don’t get it.

Alyosha's avatar

Then maybe fake news is the answer.

ebear's avatar

Maybe. If the ship's fuel supply is in a single tank then I would suspect contamination as that would affect all the gen-sets, but it would be stupid to design a warship without at least two independent fuel tanks. I suppose you could contaminate both tanks but that would point directly to sabotage. It would also narrow your range of suspects to a few individuals because only a handful of people would know how to do that.

John Galtsky's avatar

"but it would be stupid to design a warship without at least two independent fuel tanks."

Very true. But people all the time design complex systems where supposedly redundant backups all share some common weak point. They don't do that deliberately, of course, but it's amazing how much of that squeeks by.

For example, maybe you have two independent fuel tanks but only one power supply for the pumps that serve both systems. Or, given the modern reliance for operating complex systems with software it could be that the control systems for operating those multiple, different generators and their fuel supplies shares a common control computer somewhere. Or it could be a backup system depends on a sensor saying the primary is down so the backup can kick in and that sensor keeps telling the software the primary is still running.

All that stuff is to be expected in a navy that hasn't had a significant challenge since WWII. They've been designing generations of ships and systems without any reality tests in genuine combat against a peer.

Gnuneo's avatar

Western militaries have become famous for hiding serious design flaws.

Rommel's avatar

China successfully tested a new electronic warfare system.

ebear's avatar

You may be on to something. Wasn't there a story a few years ago about a Russian jet fighter making a close pass on a US destroyer in the Black Sea and the entire ship went dark? Not something you'd want to admit, so maybe engine trouble is a cover story? Pretty weak one if it is, since these ships are built with multiple redundancy as a basic element of their war fighting capability.

Tony Leibbrandt's avatar

Heard that one, too, and that USN is rewiring their ships with optic fibre systems to mitigate the problem.

TJE's avatar

said by who, a bunch of russia bots? They're not SOLDIERS, they're fkin SAILORS and they don't get to RETIRE when tf they want!

TJE's avatar

it's total horseshit

you people would believe anything

Chevrus's avatar

Tell it like it is stranger we are all ears

aDoozy's avatar

I found the story. It happened in 2014, and involved the USS Donald Cook and a Russian Su-24.

"The more a radio-electronic system is complex, the easier it is to disable it through the use of electronic warfare."....Vladimir Balybine, Russian Air Force Academy

What spooked the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea?https://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

aDoozy's avatar

Perhaps something else happened to damage/disable the ship.

ebear's avatar

see my reply to Rommel

aDoozy's avatar

Thanks much--I found it.

Tim's avatar

Admiral Rachel Levine is being urgently recalled to investigate.

Alyosha's avatar

There is a captain Sarah Hunt in "2034". ;)

Charles Langlois's avatar

A long long time ago, in a country far away (West Wales), an oil-fired power station was built with four steam powered gensets. Then came the 1974 oil price rise and the installation was mothballed until the 1982 miners' strike put most of Britain's coal powered generating capacity out of action. The oil-fired power station was started up and run at full chat, with Maggie Thatcher taking a personal interest. One after the other, the steam chests on the US-made turbines cracked under the strain, so that the power station never ran at more than 75% capacity. Redundancy, what redundancy, if every one of the same piece of kit suffers from the same defect?

Mikey Johnson's avatar

Disinformation maybe?

Anthony Dunn's avatar

Shit hitting the (non working) fan

Edward Tawa's avatar

It’s ironic that in a way this most unfortunate chain of events has the Presidential war room seriously considering the Martyrdom of human life on the planet.

I always thought Martyrdom Was an Islamic concept. If we go in that direction then I suppose in a very ironic way, Iran shall become the undisputed winner of the war in question.

ebear's avatar

Notice how Trump's head often tilts to one side when he's speaking, and how long his eyelids stay shut or droop? Don't tell me that's normal.

Karla M LaZier's avatar

Get over parsing normal for DJT - he never was normal and certainly is not now!

Gary's avatar

"The loss of power meant sailors were without galley services, toilets and air conditioning." No a/c, the humanity. I see after quite a long period of time we still have readers scrambling to be the first to issue a triumphant declaration of being the first to post. I haven't noticed this on any other blogs, it is an interesting and perhaps telling phenomenon.

As to the US Navy, the largest military budget on the planet can't maintain reasonable maintenance of what it already has and seems rather more fixated on the kickbacks and corruption associated with more MIC rubbish. Still, rotten to the core means just that, the many enemies of the US only need wait out its inevitable collapse.

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

That's the job Trump has to accomplish: expose how rotten the USA is.

His apparently erratic way of communication, is in reality a well planned script. In saying: "I will send Iran to the stonage" or "the strait of Hormuz will become part of the USA" has effects. One of them is to reunite the world against the USA. This is full wished.

mary-lou's avatar

after 17th century settler colonialism and subsequent extraction capitalism, thus once considered a most valuable cash cow, it might have become too expensive to retain this system: imploding the US might be more profitable?

Tim's avatar

When jews get themselves into the heart of a system, the only thing that matters is profit in the short term; so an industrial economy is financialized and farmed out abroad where wages and employee safety standards are marginalized for that extra buck to the shareholders from Tel Aviv or Las Vegas.

The glory days of the US are long gone; what is left is a hopelessly schizophrenic and completely fragmented society, whose inevitable collapse is only a matter of when, not if.

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

In the previous article of Simplicius I added a summary of 2 very long comments, about where we are going right now and in the next 5 to 10 years.

We are facing a war between 2 categories of élites: the old families (in Europe descendants of the nobiltà romana) and the new banker elites around the world of the last 500 years.

The implosion of the USA and Europe is the only way to get rid of the new banker dinasties, the UN, the IMF and so on. It's impossible to reorganize big organizations. They must implode. And afterwards we will see a revival of old values but not before.

jade's avatar

the military budget of the USA unofficially approaches 1.5 TRILLION dollars.

now compare what we know about how the Russian budget of approximately 200 billion dollars is being spent based on best estimates of what has been published and frontline reported and I don't see how anyone can conclude that the majority of that American budget 70% or more, is pure profit and theft .

Not only are the Russian military able to flush their toilets but no one is going around sabotaging what does work.

BTW, I realize joining the military getting married 2days out of high school and having kids they can't afford starting 8 and a half months later is a blueprint of life for most of the "volenteers" but I think its about time someone inform them that being in the military requires discomforts outside of not being able to get drunk while your wife changers her 15 diaper of the day.

Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

You are very unfair towards the heroic sailors fighting this war to safeguard humanity from the evil Iranians. Just imagine to be for weeks without the necessary supply of chewing gum in the middle of battle.

Tim's avatar

All they need is an onboard concert by Taylor Swift, and all will be well.

Man cannot live by chewing gum alone.

El.Lissitzky's avatar

I commented my observation already downstairs but your comment makes me repeat it once more.

I often see the US Navy in hour harbour (middle of the North Atlantic/ Iceland ) and their ships are in a bad shape and the sailors give me wierd cruise ship tour vibes. I used to be able to walk up close to the boats and even ask questions from the dock.

Friendly and smily kids playing with expensive and deadly toys. Other navy’s look more serious but i always pinned that on a general cultural diffrence.

The japanese boats that visited our harbour recently had real guard duty and were behind a fence. One guy was looking at us trough binoculars at least. But they looked like a serious navy.

Tim's avatar

I assume you mean "can NOT conclude ... "

Gnuneo's avatar

Actually, that's now the OFFICIAL budget size. The true budget size of the security state is over 2x that, incl the various intel and secret police forces it triples.

The Russian budget also includes the cost of fighting NATO in Ukr...

There's a reason most Western countries nationalised the arms industries at the beginning of WW2.

FkDahl's avatar

The first air conditioning systems on US Navy ships were installed for electronics cooling ; not sure about the air defense radars in an Ashley Burke class destroyer but it would not surprise me if it needs cooling …..

Tim's avatar

It seems to be going into its exponential / asymptotic phase atm.

Alyosha's avatar

If they do use nukes, they will perception manage it that in 2-3 years imbecilic Collective Westerners in general, and Muhriqanis in particular, will believe it was Russia. And they will be up in arms in indignation.

Where is offended Scott Lively when one needs him? ;)

Terry Garrett's avatar

Your straightforward and well documented reporting is very much appreciated. Thank you!

Sam Ursu's avatar

Even if the base in Bahrain was untouched, there's still no way to get supplies through the Strait, so congratulations to whatever genius thought that one up. Either way, the navies of ALL the western countries are in really, really bad shape. I think Britain is down to what? A single operable submarine? And France had to send the CDG back home a few months ago as well. Pretty odd spectacle to observe, albeit a welcomed one.

Jullianne's avatar

The europeans are in such poor shape militarily that any idea that they are gagging for a war with Russia is baloney. They are however working their socks off at getting the US (in all sorts of messes of its own) into this war.They seem to be unable to accept just what a crock of shat passes these days for US power. Since it was Russia that really won the second world war for the 'allies' you have to wonder if that massive posturing US edifice floating on made up money was ever anything more that a trick of the light.

Robert Alan's avatar

And yet, certain European leaders are agitating for war with Russia. Obviously, this is a gambit for them to keep their jobs, though it doesn’t seem to be working very well. Almost all have very low approval ratings.

Phillip Legard's avatar

I think the basic idea is that only two things loosen the public purse strings: a health crisis and war. Then the purse can be plundered, as we saw with Covid. The EU wants war because it's the only way to make its monetary problems go away. This is the same reason Russia isn't giving the EU its war.

Patrizio Del Santo's avatar

Russia will first eliminate the proxy (Ukraine). With no proxy, no war with Europe. Russia will afterwards install Israel in the puffer zone (ex west Ukraine).

Without Israel in the ME, no more petro dollar and new perspectives for the GCC.

Robert Alan's avatar

The Covid pandemic was the real deal. Millions of people died worldwide. Stop spreading disinformation, fool.

Gnuneo's avatar

Average age over 80.

That's not a universal pandemic, that's a seasonal lung infection that takes the already nearly morbid.

"Millions died" - yet strangely, not in Africa.

Nearly all in western pensioner nursing homes. And nearly all of those in corporate private nursing homes that were losing money on all those boomers they were keeping alive with modern medicine. Until covid cleaned them all out, while their families were barred from visiting - or even being at the funeral where they disposed off without autopsies.

These are facts. You can claim "cherry-picked", fine. Still facts though.

Coincidence, certainly.

Definitely the most profitable outbreak in history however. With missing emails from VDL, and Cummings driving to GSK HQ to "test his eyes".

But I'm sure it was all above board, really.

Tatjana's avatar

Yes, millions of peple have died, but mostly for the sideffects of the injected thing which was supposed to make us immune, but then broke out the "epidemics" of miocarditis, liver failure, turbocancer, etc. I don't even need to see the statistics - my neighbours (young and middle aged, not only old!) have been dropping dead like flies since the launch of the damn experimental thing, as it turned out when it was too late. Not to mention people with health problems. The statistics AND research published in scientific papers confirm my observations. Read them.

Gnuneo's avatar

The "vaccines" genetically injected the very spike protein into every cell in the victims bodies. Yeah sure, that's going to turn out REAL well, right?

For those under the age of 50, or healthy people above that, the "Vaccines" were tremendously more dangerous than the actual virus itself - unless you were unlucky enough to catch the variant the Saudis released in Iran.

Not news to you by the sound of it of course Tatjana.

Robert Alan sounds like he still has faith in the oligarchy, corporate media, and the beneficence of our 'leadership'.

I hope he lives long enough to learn to be wiser.

TJE's avatar

no..highest death rates were before there were any vaccines

Wuhan-Hu-1 and Kent variant were the 2 worst...what came after was far milder

the vaxxes sucked total ass but they did not kill nearly as many ppl as the virus. we can know this because of death tolls in places THAT NEVER GOT THE VAXXES UNTIL MUCH FUCKING LATER ON

Robert Alan's avatar

You are ignorant of the real facts about COVID. The overwhelming majority of peer reviewed scientific papers published on the subject contradict everything that you have said. I suggest that you seek more reliable sources of information regarding medical subjects.

Robert the Skeptic's avatar

Trying to have an intelligent discussion with people like you is like discussing quantum physics with a herd of oxen. Your anecdotal accounts (which are almost certainly fabricated in your own mind or someone else's) carry no weight in countering the documented facts gathered by thousands of scientists and physicians and published in peer reviewed journals. The scientific consensus, while not always correct, is at least subjected to the scientific method of explaining the physical world in which we exist. Sometimes the conclusions are proven to be false, in which case they are discarded in favor of other conclusions. That's how science works, but I'm confident that you have no idea what I'm talking about.

Will Catchum's avatar

That is complete bullshit. In each of the "covid years" there were less deaths than the previous 10 year average so unless they temporarily cured cancer and heart disease and forgot to tell anyone it is mathematically impossible that "millions" died of the wuflu. I bet you are one of those dumbfucks that still wears a face diaper alone in your car.

Gnuneo's avatar

It's not the voters who put or keep them there, but the Western oligarchies.

Robert Alan's avatar

Take the Jeremy Corbyn experience as an example. Also, Bernie Sanders. They were popular figures replaced by establishment tools. It’s hard to imagine that dynamic ever changing, at least not without major battles.

Gnuneo's avatar

100%.

"Democracies vs Autocracies", says VDL and KK. But which of the two are we...?

Gnuneo's avatar

When serving generals threaten a coup if a popular leader wins an election, and the media report it, and Establishment cover for the coup threat - that's not a functioning "democracy" in any sense.

Dhdh's avatar

The eu is more Jew controlled than the U.S.

Moscow Mule's avatar

Absolutely. I am sure Iran would have loved the idea of the USN sending one of the carriers through Hormuz to Bahrain to give R&R to the crews and restock on tampons and deodorant.

Tim's avatar
Aug 17Edited

You underestimate the British.

HMS Victory is being brought out of retirement to confront the regime in Iran; and a new land campaign is being organized even as we speak.

Because she is made of oak, none of the Iranian radars will be able to detect her presence, as she enters Hormuz, and lands a contingent of tars on the foreign shore.

Charles Langlois's avatar

Trump could send the USS Constitution to the Gulf and the Iranians would die laughing.

Mike O’Neill's avatar

Made of wood… fascinating.

Will she burn easier 😁

Tim's avatar
Aug 17Edited

This is the whole point.

By burning the ship once ashore, the crew must now, like Xenophon in a past age, fight their way to freedom, killing every Iranian en route.

"Anabasis" explains it all.

ILikeMeat's avatar

The 'HMS Victory' is the legendary warship that sank the German heavy battle ship 'The Titanic' at the battle of the bulge in 1944. The sinking of the German flagship resulted in the loss of all 3000 men, women and children on board,

The 'HMS Victory' however, only sustained minor damage in the 4-day sea battle.

The 'HMS Victory' was unofficially retired in the 1980's, after the Falklands war with Spain over whaling rights in the South Atlantic, But it is still occasionally brought into service to sail FONOPs in the South China sea, in an attempt to discourage the Chinese PLA Navy from invading the Isle of Wight..

Tim's avatar

Not a lot of people know that.

Anthony Dunn's avatar

😂 The Mary Rose is also being refitted and will soon be fit for purpose. Oh yes, old Blighty will show them what's what!

Tim's avatar

Demmed foreigners.

Jimmy p's avatar

We'd struggle to attract a crew for anything bigger. Maybe the last 100 native Brits can sail off in her

Tim's avatar

I'm sure Keir and Wes will be able to rustle up a few Ukrainian rent boys to man the guns.

Jimmy p's avatar

They'll be tied up with other duties I suspect

Tim's avatar

They will have been told the motto of the RN before joining, ie "Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash."

Anthony Dunn's avatar

Yes, well that’s one way to put it 😂

Charles Langlois's avatar

According to the Daily Telegraph, the British navy is down to seven operable ships, including one submarine.

Tim's avatar

The story a while ago was that even these couldn't operate in warm water seas, which the Persian Gulf area is known for, as their engines break down through an inability to keep cool.

One wonders if USS Benfold also experienced this problem.

TJE's avatar

which underscores why RF should have struck their sub fleet while all 4 were in dock as retaliation for Storm Shadow and other UK malfeasance

TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

No. We control the strait. I have heard it many times from Trump and Bessent.

The British navy still has it's state-of-the-art CV, Queen Elizabeth, sometimes it can go to sea and bring the F-35s if the US lends them.

Feral Finster's avatar

The uk has a navy for the sole purpose of demonstrating to the Americans who is the most loyallest little bitch.

Luís Nunes's avatar

You need a fairly serious manufacturing base to run, much less build a real blue water navy. Takes skills and equipment to keep a destroyer , much less a submarine combat ready.

deSelbybigg1's avatar

People forget that when the US used nukes on Japan they did so in the full confidence that they were the only country that had them and no one could nuke them in return. Times have changed.

Charles Langlois's avatar

No-one is going to nuke the USA, it's the US of A, FFS!

deSelbybigg1's avatar

Or at least it used to be.