The sanctions were supposed to defeat Russia. They didn't work. The neocons as voiced by Gay Lindsey say it didn't work because Brazil, India, and China still traded with Russia. Gay Lindsey says the US is going to impose crippling sanctions on Brazil, India, and China and this will destroy the Russian economy. That is their theory. The only country that might possibly break is Brazil. Lula is talking tough guy but is the obvious weakest and least important link. India and China are not going to stop trading with Russia. This is a neocon pipe dream.
This individual with a not-so-typical Ukrainian name (Serhi Derbin,) is making a cemetery business great again. The question is why he is not on the frontline?
Those names are also extremely common in Scandinavia, with absolutely no connection to "jews".
Because when the notion about there being a need for family names came around, the most common solution was to take the name of where the family lived, either village or the old name of their farm.
And those invariably have names like Berg(mountain), Sjö(lake), Ström(stream/river), Hed(heath) etc etc. Everything based on the terrain where the village or farm was located.
However, short and simple names like Berg were also used as soldier names in the Swedish military, where each few farms supported a soldiers croft/house, and the first soldier to live there got whatever family name the military decided and then the name was inherited by the next soldier living there rather than by his family, though sometimes later when family names became more common the family of the former soldier retained the name as well.
Which is why there's a lot of Svärd(sword), Sköld(shield), Lans(lance), Pil(arrow), Kvick(quick), Rask(speedy)... The basic requirement was that it was short and easy to recognise, and mostly one syllable. Like Berg, and Sund(sound) etc...
Obviously some of these suffixes are not a cast iron rule: Hitler, for instance; or Battenberg.
I’d have said -ner was a more common Jewish suffix than -ler (e.g. Posner, Eisner). But here again, you do get exceptions, such as Elsner (i.e. from Elsen).
So why is Einstein pronounced like the beer container, but ultimate slimeball Jeffrey Epstein pronounced like it rhymes with "teen"? I think I am just going to go with the rules I learned in German class - "ei" is like hard "i" and "ie" is Iike hard "e". No exceptions from now on.
No...Germany was defeated in WW1 the minute fresh American troops in numbers started showing up on the battlefield...Same here...If Ukraine ever had a chance (I doubt it) that chance ended up with the collapse of the Kursk offensive...
This was a tragedy because the victory of the 'Allies' was really a victory of the bankers. Germany's industrial economy was superior to France's and Britain's in terms of quality and quality of life for workers, and her banking system was investment oriented and not financialized. [Michael Hudson]
And the British upper middle class. It changed society in the UK. All mature oak trees had been cut down, for example. A vast number of women had no kids.
But it was much worse in France. Syphilis was rampant.
I didn't come from money, but did have American heritage, had ancestors on both sides of the family who fought in the American Revolution. By the 1970s, the handwriting was already on the wall. The tree of liberty needed watering, but the modern population would not go there. My brother and I decided not to have children. We refused to breed in captivity.
'All mature oak trees had been cut down, for example.’ Yes, another now forgotten consequence of the war, but noted in Lewis Grassic Gibbon’s ‘Sunset Song’. The stripping of the woods for trench timber and duckboards, lucrative for those who owned the woods, left many fields and the soil and crops in them horribly exposed to the wind. Along with the demise of large country house domestic staffs and the popularisation of wristwatches, mass cigarette smoking and spiritualism, there was also a huge growth in female-female couples, pairing up to share a home, companionship and expenses in the absence of any real chance of marriage, the nation being short of about a million men in the 18-30 bracket.
Most of the West knows their countries are dead. Their societies, their culture, their shared values, their civilization all but gone, disappeared, or just plain gone.
That is why Germany, who lost two world wars back-to-back is completely falling apart. Sandwiched between repeated defeats on the battlefield was a full-on systemic collapse of the Weimar Republic and adject servitude to the United States.
Add to that, how Germany was forced to watch as their only supply of cheap energy was taken away from them. The destruction of the Nord Stream Pipeline, critical civilian infrastructure cavalierly blown up by the United States, will make Germany a Third World country within a decade. Nothing like having an ally declare war on you. Add betrayal to the list of failures Germany has been forced to endure.
Perhaps bringing in illegal aliens, by the millions, a country can forget. I don't know what affect a Hollowcaust [sic on purpose] had on Germany's will to live. There is no hope to be found in genocide. Of course, that hasn't stopped one of their victims from picking up where the Reich left off -- and seemingly enjoying themselves. Quite well, in fact.
Just like Germany, the West sees how their new master (the United States) is just like their old master. And the United States hasn't even gotten started yet. We are seeing this process playout through the entire West. That is why they are committing suicide. Since World War II all of Europe and much of the world became vassal states to the United States. With victory came their servitude. And now the United States, their master, has turned evil.
Yep, that’s why they came in. If the British and French Empires had gone down like the Russian one did - which seemed a real possibility by mid-1917 - then Wall Street would have been ruined, the US stripped of its loaned out capital. That was the real reason for US intervention (and for Democrat resegregator Woodrow Wilson's ruthless and Unconstitutional crackdown on domestic dissent). Like the USS Maine in 1898 and 9/11 a century later, the Lusitania and the Zimmermann Telegram were mere convenient pretexts for a decision those in the corridors of power had, essentially, already made.
With respect, I disagree. Wall Street would have taken more than a hit. Ultimately, a lot of the $ billions (which was real money, in those days) lent to Great Britain (as it was then), France and Italy was Americans’ savings and businesses' deposits. Had those three regimes collapsed and their revolutionary successors repudiated the debts, then the whole US economy - which had been exporting food and ordnance hand over fist, on credit - would have taken a tremendous body blow. That’s not to say that the politically influential bankers were concerned with anything except their own welfare. But I would contend that the whole US economy would have been badly shaken, conceivably set back 15-20 years, by the consequences of an Allied default.
That doesn’t mean that US intervention was ‘justified’, however: it wasn’t, and it would have been better for everyone if they hadn't come in. (Easy to say now, of course, knowing what we know now about how the 20th century panned out.)
Eugene Debs was right: Wall Street should never have ben allowed to fund the belligerents in the first place, it only kept the war going and got millions more killed than would otherwise have been the case.
In 1917, the average frustrated American's savings were not entrusted to the Mellons or Morgans or Carnegies of the world. The banking business was much more fragmented and localized. For that matter, a lot of the loans to H.M. Government were collateralized, the Exchequer were basically forcing UK holders of high grade US and Latin American securities to deliver their holdings to the government to be used as collateral for loans from American bankers.
For that matter, the US was still producing things that people wanted then, and was largely self-sufficient.
Would an Entente defeat have meant losses and disruption? Yes. Collapse? No.
You omit another important backstory. Germany offered peace to Britain in 1916, with a return to the pre-war boundaries of 1914. Lord Rothschild persuaded the British to refuse it if he could convince the USA to enter the war. Which he did.
In exchange, the British signed the Balfour Declaration, which started the Zionist state in motion and the slow genocide of the Palestinians.
In that light, you could say Ukraine lost from the time it started the war. Russia dominates at a 10-to-1 ratio. Russia can't lose. It's an impossibility. Ukraine put up more resistance than I ever expected. I have yet to see an unconditional surrender. Oh right, that's pending. lol
The Ukraine gambit was an attempt to repeat the Afghanistan ploy from the 80s, to stress the Russian government to collapse. Wars outcome was decided when the whole sanctions package failed and Putin didn't back down.
The war's outcome was never in doubt that Russia would win at a ten to one advantage with or without sanctions. If Russia takes out Ukraine, it's a complete win. If Russia leaves Ukraine intact, it's only a partial win.
On the field of battle sure, but if you can break your opponent's will to fight you can achieve victory despite that. 4th Gen warfare, iirc. China, Russia and the resistance as such is using unrestricted warfare in several domains to bring down the US empire, in order to prevent a nuclear war.
It is a win if you achieve your objectives. Don't confine yourself to extremes. Russia had clearly defined objectives to meet in this operation. If it meets those objectives, it wins - and nowhere does Russia indicate it is after unconditional surrender.
I see it not as such at all, Victor. Russia's clearly defined objectives are going to be a bridge too short by not taking Ukraine out when it should have.
For a while they did, then they lost the war. The only reason they did not lose the country was that Stalin was preoccupied with bigger things in Europe.
They largely held off Stalin’s army in the 1939-40 Winter War, inflicting heavy casualties, then negotiated a ceasefire that left the USSR in possession of a southerly chunk of Finnish territory. With the launch of Barbarossa in 1941, the Finns naturally enough threw in their lot with the Germans in an effort to get their land back. This they did….until 1944, when the Soviet steamroller rolled back west and drove them out again. Fortunately they managed to secure a peace deal that left the bulk of Finland unoccupied and intact, the price being strict non-alignment: ‘Finlandisation’, as it became known. That would have been the rational answer for Ukraine, but the West’s political pseudo-leadership no longer does rationality.
>In that light, you could say Ukraine lost from the time it started the war.
Again, this is not a war between Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine is a fully disposable proxy of the West that nobody cares about. One is making a fundamental catastrophic mistake if approaching the situation as a war between Russia and Ukraine.
>Russia dominates at a 10-to-1 ratio. Russia can't lose. It's an impossibility.
Russia already lost catastrophically, without a fight too, thus it is very much a possibility.
I would argue the Kursk operation accelerated the certain ultimate defeat of the UAF.
They pulled their best units from Donbass region and commenced an offensive into the RF with no achievable objective that would lead to "victory". The quantities of weapon systems and trained servicemen lost, caused a fatal weakening in the Donbass.
It was a gift to the Russian General Staff.
I cannot think of a better way to solidify the Russians' public resolve to rally around their flag and government than having German Leopard tanks and foreign soldiers invading the Kursk Region. Foreigners again killing and raping Russian civilians. I can understand how the fascist Ukranian factions would be enthusiastic for this. But the American generals who plan and coordinate the UAF operations are proven to be imbeciles.
Imbeciles is only a start for their full description. As there were only two possible outcomes from day one, a Russian victory or a Nuclear War they were also psychopaths and suicidal maniacs.
On that note, I live in Alaska near several expansive military reserves. They were playing around with very expensive but technologically crudely made drones.
It seems they heard that drones are the weapon of the future and maybe they need to try and fly them.
Keep in mind this is July, the hot/dry season with endless sunshine in the interior with dry vegetation and forests of stunted, highly combustible black spruce.
The idiots only managed to prove these drones are junk and start several wildfires. Closing the highways and forcing residents to evacuate their homes.
And this is the condition of our vaunted military.
And ours. Bring on the Red Arrows, the Royal Horse Artillery, the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment and the massed pipes and drums of the Royal Regiment of Scotland.
Iirc Brian, I understand the plan was to sieze the Kursk NPP, indeed a valuable asset and bargaining chip had success been achieved. The problem was that the NPP was something like 50 miles away, and they didn't have a cat in hell's chance of getting anywhere near. Sure, initially they had the element of surprise, and were up against a below parr border force and some raw recruits, but after that "money shot", things went very limp, very quickly and became for Ukraine a suicide mission. A fine example of ambition and expectation far exceeding reality.
One of the problems with Kursk operation was, the participants were even more surprised with their orders than Russians, who (rationally) didn't expect the loonies to come up with that idea.
"The British have an extraordinary ability to attempt daring operations, but with others troops taking the bullets."
Or...kill women and children like they did in the Boer War. Estimates are that 30,000 women and children died in Brit prisoner of war camps. Can't beat the men in the field? Beat up and kill their women and children then. Cowards.
Take a look at the British dirty war in Kenya ca. 1952 - 1960. Since the victims weren't white (and the Brits kept the records sealed/destroyed much of them before withdrawing from their African colony), nobody in "The West" thinks about it. British started the war by trying to expropriate the best highlands farming land (which had a climate Europeans found desirable) from the locals, first by taxing them in currency (which they did not have) & then expropriation of their farm land for unpaid taxes. When the locals reacted as it had been predicted they would, the Brits moved on to putting over 300,000 of them into concentration camps to be killed slowly. The Mau Mau rebels killed less than 100 British civilians and military. The British (officially) killed over 10,000 rebels- But unofficially killed over 100,000 detainees in concentration camps, just as they had in South Africa, killing off most of the children (their next generation) of those tribes they wished to take the lands from. As they controlled the information very effectively, they got away with it, despite their own people inspecting what happened "on the ground" noting that they were behaving as badly as Hitler or Stalin ever had.
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"We knew the slow method of torture [at the Mau Mau Investigation Center] was worse than anything we could do. Special Branch there had a way of slowly electrocuting a Kuke—they'd rough up one for days. Once I went personally to drop off one gang member who needed special treatment. I stayed for a few hours to help the boys out, softening him up. Things got a little out of hand. By the time I cut his balls off, he had no ears, and his eyeball, the right one, I think, was hanging out of its socket. Too bad, he died before we got much out of him."
It was funny how Brits took credit for planning it and then they shut up when it went wrong. Everyone was trying to take credit for that great victory.
Very reminiscent of the great summer offensive a bit earlier.
Correct on the objective, which underscores the insanity of how NATO, ultimately the American general staff who plan all operations in Ukraine are.
What would the UAF, along with American and Polish ground force contingents do if they captured the Kursk NPP?
They would know they would be cut off and then what? Where do they find men stupid enough to conduct suicidal operations like this? What good is a sign up bonus you can't spend?
They were shelling the Zaparozhe NPP and claiming it was Russia firing on its' own servicemen and captured facility.
Operation Spiderweb targeting part of Russia's nuclear strategic triad bomber force could have triggered a nuclear response.
It is impossible to concentrate forces for large arrow offensives without incurring catastrophic losses when you lack the firepower to suppress the enemy in this war.
The Kursk debacle is pretty much the same as when Hitler over ruled his generals in going after Stalingrad, they knew it wasn't going to work but then politics and a madman, someone that wasn't trained to understand how the military works, got in the way.
So it was an incompetent operation from a military perspective, by your own admission, then? Cant imagine many generals who are keen to put their men forward to die for the sake of narrative management.
You could make the arguement that narrative management has always been part of war fighting, but if we're being honest, the elephant in the room here is protecting Western tax payers from seeing the true nature of the Kiev regime and the West's true aims in supporting the war, not because it delivers the Ukranians any tactical advantage to lose thousands of men attempting to sieze the NPP.
The point wasn't to seize the NPP but to show Russian incompetence and thus, keep the arms and cash flowing. Stop the arms and cash the Kiev regime collapses forthwith.
It worked. The arms and cash kept flowing and keep flowing.
There's no such animal. You'd need to posit a *vast* increase in available manpower, artillery, logistics etc. All of which, as with those lost in Kursk, had a better use (but not lifetime) elsewhere.
The whole point of the incursion was to perform a rapid, balls to the wall, march to Kursk NPP, to either swap it for Zaporhizia NPP ( for which the US *STILL* has a major hard on), or, as Dave suggests, Chernobyl it and blame Russia for the fallout hitting Europe.
Do you think the Russians would wait for 6 months while the USA moves troops and weapons across the Atlantic? Anyway, they are no match for the Russians.
In common parlance this is called "biting off more than you can chew."
When this fiasco broke out, I told my liberal friends here that there was no effing way the Russians would lose this blood-fest. Riddle me this Batman...who was right?!
According to Zelenskiiy, so long as the west goes on fuelling active resistance in Ukraine it has not lost. Indeed, that can count as a sort of real time ongoing victory!
In the land of the magic money tree and the horn of plenty, resources are just not an issue, at least they are not if you have become accustomed to plundering other people's. It is just not your problem, right?
Arminius did not talk that much. He just trapped and destroyed three Roman Legions in the steamy forests of Teutoburg in 9 CE and changed the course of history.
Ukraine has not lost as long as the Perception is that they are winning. It could go on and on until Russian stormtroopers enters the Bankova bunker and starts the Flamethrower… This War is religious and no one in West are allowed another faith.
Nobody cares whether Ukraine has lost, this is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, but a war between Russia and the West fought in Ukraine, and increasingly, inside official Russia itself (in reality it has been fought entirely inside Russia from the very beginning).
Ukraine is fully disposable and nobody cares about it, except perhaps the Russians.
And the very fact the war started was already a gigantic defeat for Russia, which has only become much worse since then.
All thanks to the predatory oligarchy installed in power during and after the USSR collapse, and then carefully preserved under the 5D-chess grandmaster currently in power.
Wonderful statement. And defeat is not declared until some Ukrainian official sign a document of Surrender. Even if Russia reach Dnieper there is no defeat. Even if Zelensky, Schmygal and Yermak is vaporized there is no defeat. Defeat must be recognized by the defeated part.
Moral pressure works when the pressured want it to.
This is why poland and the baltic poodles are encouraged to curate and nurture gripes thst are in some cases, hundreds of years old, while the people of Vietnam and Iraq are not.
The West's strategy, after failing to weaken Russia (and to a lesser extent China and Iran) seems to be to create as much chaos as possible. It's the old "if I can't have it nobody will". Just how long can this strategy of weakness continue? Martin Armstrong predicted the other day that by next year Russia and NATO will be in direct conflict. Ramping up from September.
That horrible, obsequious little grinning marionette... What a shower of dross the political leadership of Western Europe is these days. No doubt he’s the product of one of those Soros/ WEF ‘Future Leaders' programmes.
Armstrong has a software program he's been feeding data for decades. All manner of data and lots of it. The core methodology is cycles and it's pretty mind blowing. Not a guarantee though, but we only have a few weeks to know the truth.
Doubtful. Western governments are quite unpopular. Any steps to mobilization will crash these governments and energize political breakthroughs for pacifist right wing parties.
You people always make the wrong projections. You haven't even been keeping up with what's happening in your own damn countries. Here's a quick refresher course: step by step, Western European countries have been clamping down on their respective populations, including restrictions on free speech, alternative political parties, and Christianity, along with any street opposition to immigration, LGBTXYZ, etc. Western leaders have hijacked what were once well-understood concepts of democracy, freedom, diplomacy, international agreements, and the like. They've all been redefined according to the autocrats' deceptive exclusionary definitions. The upshot is that western governments are one step removed from full-scale tyrannies.
As soon as some part of the LOC is completely overrun, it will become glaringly obvious that Ukraine has lost. At that point, guess what your European governments will do? They'll declare a state of emergency, fly in as many troops as they can into Odessa, and initiate full-scale mobilization of European populations, many of whom are now either freezing, out of work, on drugs, or generally excluded from a normal place in society because their leaders have deliberately trashed everything. Do you think that kind of population will resist? No effing way. They'll be drafted into the armed forces of Europe, and sent over to Ukraine to beef up the initial incursion of professional troops. Soon Russia will be facing a 500,000-sized army in southern and western Ukraine, and Russia will have nobody to blame but itself for its stubborn refusal to discard its go-slow strategy.
Along with troop movements, NATO will declare the Baltic Sea as a no-fly, no-go zone. All of this will be the final nail in the coffin of the West's provocations against Russia, because it will not actually invade any Russian territory. Russia will be forced into a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't corner. Either accept European troops and Kaliningrad blockade as a fait accompli, or else declare war against NATO. Good luck with all your hopium projections then.
C'mon Dave. Virtue signalling and staying at home are easy; sending your lad off to be killed in Ukraine isn't in the same ball-park. It isn't even the same fckng sport.
Your reading comprehension is poor. I already told you. European populations have already been softened up and brainwashed by their respective governments. They will put up minimal resistance to being drafted. They might even welcome it, free room and board, stand up to evil Russia, etc etc etc. Like I said, you haven't been keeping up with current events, so your ability to project the future is deeply flawed. (BTW, NATO won't mobilize, it will be the governments within NATO, as usual.)
You do have a point Eric considering how the majority responded to the Plandemic 2020. Obediently queueing to enter supermarkets, all 2 metres apart. Donning masks that they were told were absolutely useless given the pore size in comparison to a Virus (that nobody afaik has as yet isolated). Then the Clot shots...again queueing around the block to get jabbed and jabbed again. Btw...there's a bloke walks past my house every morning, masked. I call him Mr Maskie. Between 07:00 & 07:10 he walks down the hill, returning between 07:30 & 07:45. I have tried to engage, saying hello or good morning. I get no response, never in 4 years, he stares straight ahead, resolute in his task.
I don't believe it. People were willing to go along with the covid crap because they were scared of dying from covid. After what has gone on in Ukraine (and even the cheerleaders are finding it difficult to mask the numbers of dead and wounded) people would rightly see that their chance of dying is much greater in war. They won't go quietly.
Exactly, COVID was the Deep State's trial run in regards to how the masses will behave. I think it worked out for them. Enforcers of that agenda are given medals here in Canada.
You make the mistake of lumping all European nations together. Germany and Poland will fight, and probably the Brits who are a passive and defeated nation. However, I have my doubts about the Spanish, French and Eastern Europeans.
There is no way we'd accept being drafted by Starmer to die in Ukraine. And we're easily one of the most aggressive nations in Europe. Only an idiot would believe that a draft on young people would be accepted here. Have you heard of the Poll tax riots? That was over tax. This would be a matter of life and death.
Also there are no restrictions on Christianity here, mainly because evangelicals are a tiny minority and most people are at best nominal Christians.
So let's pretend NATO, or the countries with in it, VERY important distinction apparently, declares the Baltic a no fly zone. First Russian civilian jet downed is a clear Casus Belli. How is that even an issue?
Are you going to send ethnic group ABC into the ethnic ghettos of the XYZs to ship them off to the military camps or NOT send ethnic group ABC into the ethnic ghettos of the XYZs to ship them off to the military camps?
Either way it's going to rip the society apart.
The demoralized obese unemployed blobs of the West (in Britain they're officially called NEETs, Not in Employment Education or Training) will passively sit around for quarantine lock-downs, pornography, welfare checks, vidya games, and high fructose corn syrup, but they will not sit around and passively go to war.
It's an inherent contradiction.
And if there's one thing that could possibly cut through their gooning corn syrup haze and get them off the sofa, it would be the very real chance of being blown to hell by the Russian guns. In which case they would be doing their utmost to get AWAY from the Russians not run towards them.
In spite of draft riots, the tyrant Abraham Lincoln still got his way, didn't he? Thousands of draftees were inducted into the Union Army, whether they liked it or not.
So the New York City draft riots were 162 years or 6-7 generations ago in a very different America, an America of a largely rural population, local loyalties, the frontier spirit and where some sort of organized faith in God was basically compulsory.
And yet, mass mobilization of young men for military service still produced the bloodiest urban rioting that the nation has ever seen among it's least assimilated ethnic minorities, namely the Blacks and the Irish.
Social cohesion is now worse, much worse and so the chance of mobilization causing huge social disorder are greater, much greater.
Better historical examples to use would be the counter-culture mass protests of the late 60s and early 70s, the long hot summer of 1967 and the Kent State massacre of 1970, the draft was absolutely at the center of all of that.
The Vietnam war called for a limited mobilization under long standing rules to fight against a second rate enemy. An American and NATO mobilization to fight Russian in Europe would be a massive mobilization that would overthrow the established social contract of the past 50 years in order to fight a gigantic war against a first rate enemy (quite possibly two).
It's just not going to happen, it would tear the country apart.
Here's an interesting thing to consider, what do you think it would take to get America to do what Russia and Ukraine have already done, and mobilize the prison population (under promises of pardons and huge cash incentives of course)?
I was just looking into it, and I roughly calculate 75K prisoners aged 18-40 in the federal system alone. Those people are broadly hated by society, they don't even have the vote and so have no real political representation. And yet what sort of political mountains would have to be moved in Washington to get them into uniform fighting for Blackwater Inc. or whatever it's called now?
It's just not going to happen.
The counter cultural revolutions of the 60s and 70s shut down the draft. The regime moved to a fully professional and partially privatized military. Mass military mobilization requires broad popular support as it is literally the citizenry armed, equipped and on the move.
The regime is now even LESS popular than it was in the 1960s. Mass military mobilization is not going to happen in the USA or any other NATO country under any conditions short of a civil war, of which mass mobilization would be both cause and effect.
You keep being deliberately obtuse about a NATO army. That's a strawman argument, so drop it, ok? The respective armies of European countries comprise NATO military, as usual. As for the rest of your questions, see below...
But Eric, NATO has a single command structure, so talking about a NATO army is entirely appropriate. Napoleon 's Grand Armee had troops from about 20 countries in it, was that not a single force? What about Eisenhower's army in 1944?, and particularly the British element? Troops from dozens of countries.
You don't know what a "Straw man argument" is do you?
You're simply wrong, your example of Covid doesn't fly. It was passive compliance, we had to do nothing except stay at home and marvel at the death rate in the USA. A better example is the Poll tax riots, that you ignore, because you have no answer for it.
Every single European commentator has disagreed with you, but plough on confident in your ignorance.
You are seriously wrong if you think that any Western leader has anything like a button on their desk labeled "Mobilize the Population" which if pressed will create anything like a useful army in any time frame less than a full generation.
Over the last 40+ years the whole population of the West, but young men most especially have become weak, obese, drug-addicted, passive and demoralized (you mentioned all that yourself). There is no propaganda switch that can be flipped that can make them strong, fit, healthy and motivated.
This would apply to all the ranks. Where are the clever and bold 19-22 year old second Lieutenants or the 30-35 year old tough and grizzled Sergeants coming from?
How far up the ranks of our current elite class would you have to go before you found a person both able and willing to do a risky stakes death or glory charge right into the Russian guns?
Such a person would be 1 in 10,000 today.
You are over playing the strengths of the regime's propagandist, they are strong but they're still only illusionists. When flesh meets steel, it's the flesh that loses, manipulating media algorithms can't change that.
Bang on. Passive compliance is not going to get you anywhere when it comes to making an army. Unwilling, demotivated young men - half of them ethnic aliens - will be hopeless material for training, worse than useless, a waste of wages, rations and time. Provide them with arms and live ammo and they will be a far greater threat to their own regimes than to Russia.
This talk of conscription is just talk - Starmer & Co trying to sound tough, trying desperately to conceal their ruined states’ economic and military impotence and societal decomposition. As a case in point, one-third of UK armed forces accommodation is now being used to house the latest self-inflicted wave of Afghan refugees.
Well exactly, the sort of people who are the most keen to join the military, be organized into units and train with serious weapons are also exactly the last people that the regime wants organized into units and trained with serious weapons.
It's worth noting that the most extremist Ukrainian paramilitary units, which have now graduated into full battalions (Azov et al.) started off as cliques of rowdy heavies within football clubs, the "Ultras".
In a U.K. context that would be London gaining both a Millwall and a West Ham United battalion and Edinburgh getting both a Rangers and Celtic battalion.
Fun times for both Westminster and Hollyrood even before they have to deal with The Battalion of the Martyrs of the Prophet (Blessings be upon him).
All of which is a real shame, in a natural human community it should be the sports clubs and faith communities that encourage the youngsters to stand up, work hard and even fight for their nation. That's the way it was for my grandfathers but they and their generation are now long gone.
You’re absolutely right, particularly on the Millwall Light Infantry and West Ham Fusiliers. The Leeds Utd Regiment would also be quite a formidable firm. Likewise Rangers and Celtic battalions, which would be quite likely to form a tactical alliance on the streets against the hated regimes at Holyrood and Westminster, just as the nationalist and unionist communities have done against mass immigration in Northern Ireland. They are, however, both Glasgow clubs. In Edinburgh, the rival RC and Protestant clubs are, of course, Hibernian and Heart of Midlothian.
"How far up the ranks of our current elite class would you have to go before you found a person both able and willing to do a risky stakes death or glory charge right into the Russian guns?"
I was in Whole Foods in my Midwestern city yesterday. One of the employees was moping around and was probably 75 lbs overweight. Early 20's and likely a him/he/his. Half his long hair was orange and the other half was yellow. A real freak show on wheels for the shoppers. Imagining this whichever toting a gun is beyond laughable. Possibly a fly swatter? This is standard retail weirdness now. I think the Russians can sleep comfortably tonight. The empire slouches into the wilderness...
Maybe he is good at sitting in a chair flying FPV drones all day? War is changing and maybe you can now employ thousands of these chubby kids with x-box controllers, hot pockets and gamified battlefields to send 1000's of drones at your enemy.
The thought of pinning a medal on this whole foods kid seems plausible now in this new great age of warfare. He can brag years later while collecting veteran benefits of how he kicked ass.
Recently I've been spending many months in Germany. There is seething anger under the passive surface. After all, the only resistance to war mongering is coming from the extremes of Left and Right.
Trying to gin up a war with Russia and then conscripting young people to fight such a war will lead to massive resistance and political explosion. That's exacerbated by rapidly a collapsing economy. Budget cuts are really biting in Germany and getting worse. The continued outrage against Open Borders mass migration only intensifies as it affects daily life. People will tolerate only so much before blind rage takes over.
Media psy-ops do take their toll... agreed; but it's not quite up to Third Reich standards. At the end of the day, no matter how intense the brainwashing is, you can't serve chicken manure and call it chicken salad. No amount of brainwashing makes that work.
And for all the big talk, I doubt the juntas in Paris, Berlin and London will, when it comes down to it, place small arms in the hands of their young male citizenry, whether immigrant or native. Each dislikes the other and despises the State. You’d get a host of shootings, multiple mutinies and then, outright rebellion and civil war. In 2020s Yookay, at least, it is a complete non-starter (unless Starmer & Co want to end up hanging upside down from a lamppost like Mussolini).
Nope, there is no taste in western Europe for neck risking direct war with Russia, just all this holla'ing from the fence and lobbing in of missiles etc from a safe (!) arms's length.
That does not mean it will not find itself with a bombed out crater where a city used to be if it continues to test Russian patience, just that Russia does not need to go here to get what it needs out of this war with f.Ukraine. Not so far. But hell, if the west really wants to go down fighting that is at least a noble warrior's defeat.
The western people despise their leaders and will not be willing to die for them. And said leaders know this.
Keeping a population servile, drugged and indolent is one thing. Getting them off their beds and into a trench quite another, as even Ukraine is finding out.
Sorry, but it will necessary to recruit enthusiastic war fighters. The war will not be solely fought behind screens and keyboards, someone will have to storm the trenches, clean out buildings room by room with grenades and bayonets.
Even if part of the war will be fought with keyboard cyber warriors, the party that has those PLUS real old school hot-lead and cold-steel warriors will take the victory.
Even if it could be all done by press gangs of police officers, national guardsmen and court bailiffs picking up men and throwing them in vans to be taken to boot camp, then you would need huge amounts of enthusiastic men to do THAT.
The men in those press gangs would have their sons, brothers, cousins and finally also themselves on the lists to be rounded up and sent to the front.
Or will it be exclusively White, Christian, out-of-town men sent to press-gang the Black, Muslim, local neighborhood guys and vice-versa?
That sounds like a perfect recipe for mass rioting and eventual civil war.
Those press-ganged Ukrainian boys are not leading their country to victory. Reluctant soldiers can never replace highly-motivated, well trained patriots.
"We are willing to let Ukrainians die in their thousands, but that doesn't mean we're happy to let hundreds of our lads be slaughtered."
Cf...I was at a birthday party years ago for a mate from middle school. At the end of the meal he casually brought out his AK-47. Then the shooting commenced. This was on a very rural farm so only the unlucky coon hunter might get shot, traversing the wooded area behind the house. This was all done with the casualness of handing out party favors. Naturally, there were children in the audience.
The point being that people around the world know we are over burdened with guns in the USA! BUT, they don't really grok the magnitude of this reality. In my city, someone dies by gunfire every single day.
TLDR: expect some serious armed push back when the press gang monkeys show up to kidnap the populace. There will be blood...
"EU UK have been content to throw Ukraine bodies into the war incinerator for 3.3 years unabated" - this is why it's good people like Orbán, Fico or Babiš exist. This all can be stopped if people in central Europe realize they don't want to be fed to the grinder next. Let Baltic chihuahuas do it if they really wish so, but don't join them.
'Dominant' Denis? floating on its sea of made up money?
The west as a whole has a small problem of scarce real wealth to back up its debt and indeed do anything much going forward including manufacturing arms..... which is why this attack on Russia was launched in the first place.
Have you looked around lately at Western cities - crime-infested, resource-strained, vast areas of extreme poverty and homelessness? How many young people can afford their own home now? Standards are falling rapidly. And whilst the West is still very wealthy, the wealth divide is increasing, the middle class disappearing, and most of that wealth is leveraged debt and financialisation whereas the rest of the world is leveraging their resources and growing the real economy, freeing itself from the bonds of colonialism that has always supported our standard of living and are now raising their standards - dramatically in some cases.
Standards are still relatively high. By the time our standards drop, the New World Order will be ushered in, and almost everyone will be screwed. In my community, the average income is ten times higher than in Russia. The east has a long way to go to match us.
Russia could perhaps have lost the conflict if it's economy was as weak as the West thought,if China and India didn't exist and if Western weapons were as wonderful as advertised.
I might rattle my sabre, but no one is genuinely contemplating a war against an opponent who has hundreds of hypersonic missiles against which I have literally no adequate defence.
The other thing to throw into the mix is that NATO relies heavily in air power but we are at a point in the cycle where SAMs appear to be in the ascendant. That's a huge issue for NATO.
Even if they are stupid enough to want to fight Russia in 2025, they can't.
The idea of going strategically nuclear keeps getting floated during Rand Corporation meetings. I think the reference was made in regards to a conflict with China though, where the odds of an American 'win' are doubtful.
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On the topic of some lurid western threats against Kalingrad, Russia does not escalate beyond what is necessary according to the realities on the ground. A NATO upscale in provocations of this order will prompt decisive strikes against the Baltic nations. This is not revenge so much as what is necessary to rescue Kalingrad. If the west continues down this path of risking its own far limbs in order to sound 'strong' it will find itself the dismembered one.
Then the bellicose little fascists on the periphery will discover just what NATO support really means. Bye bye Estonia. Your day in your ludicrously bigged up sun is coming an to an end.
More importantly, Poland knows it is dispensable in this reckless testing of Russia, too.
No. The russian forces in Ukraine / SMO zone, are enough to deal with the nazis and continue the attrition. Russia has at least two reserve armies ready for any NATO provocation, which will deal with the baltics fairly easy since NATO has no way to pump the baltics with as many weapons as it once did Ukraine. Also the baltics are quite tiny, not the giant country Ukraine is. If NATO goes this route, their defeat will be even greater and only dumb idiots (aka europeans) will continue in it.
Well, I think the logic is the same as with other extremist countries. The Baltic are dispensable anti-russian extremists and can easily be turned into another proxy against Russia. No country in NATO will move a finger to protect the Baltics.
I think you are comiting the mistake of evaluating NATO leadership as if they were rational actors. 🤔😉
The Baltics have been in the organization for years and have NATO troops there years round. There would be war. I don't believe they would push it to the nuclear threshold, no one is that crazy, but there it is.
Nothing in the last decades convinces me we are dealing with a rational political system. Wish I was wrong, btw. 🧐🤪🤬
Oh I agree. When I said "logic" I meant it in the world of psychopathic egocentric fascist incompetent people e.g. USA / European Union / NATO. To them doing provocations against the largest nuclear power in the world - Russia - makes perfect sense and is justified to just throw disposable meat at it, such as Ukraine, the baltics, etc
And given this, I also have no doubts that if there's anyone crazy to start a nuclear war, those are the USA / European Union / NATO people.
You might even conclude that Russia is just waiting for the enemy to make this great mistake. It is like Kalingrad is sitting there as a temptation to which the west is aching- against its own faltering best judgement- to succumb.
and although I should not say this, it cannot come a moment too soon.
I just hope those inhabitants of these countries who still secretly serve the old gods, remember to paint the secret sign on their lintels so that the angel of death passes over their houses.
Poland is like the dog that barks, but doesn't bite. The thousands of polish military killed in Ukraine should be enough to deter Poland from thinking of going all in.
Yeah, it's just rhetoric. Besides, Poland will not enjoy the "gloves on" approach Russia is taking with ukrainians. If Poland does go all in as the next proxy of NATO, they will be removed from the map, without even an eye twitch.
Indeed. And it's even more impossible to understand their support of Ukraine, and those with precisely the same banderite ideology that butchered thousands of polish people during the second world war.
If there really were thousands of Polish military killed, where are the military cemeteries? Where are the mothers, wives, girlfriends demanding answers as to where Stasiek went, why nobody has heard from Wojtek in months? Where are the military hospitals jammed with wounded, where are the invalids, where are the prisoners paraded on Russian TV?
A few losses, sure. "Helicopter crash." "training accident". But thousands? I'd need to see receipts. Otherwise, it's the dog that didn't bark.
Even the Soviet Union could not conceal its losses in Afghanistan, and the Soviet Union had the KGB.
Now, there are thousands of polish nazis killed in Ukraine, many of which are from polish military, but of course "laundered" as "mercenaries", as all NATO soldiers killed in Ukraine are. And people in Poland did notice it. So just stop with your propaganda and actually inform yourself.
That you apparently were only able to find a fringe source to support your argument, and moreover, your source doesn't address my point- if there were thousands of Polish casualties, we'd see the things I describe.
We don't see those things, therefore the casualties are likely wishful thinking.
And if I were to show more, you would ignore those too. You need your bias to be confirmed and everything that doesn't, is ignored by you. I certainly don't care if you don't believe this is happening. Reality doesn't need your belief to be real. And as I mentioned, those things you described did happen in Poland, however with the increasing censorship across Europe, especially in countries that support the nazis in Ukraine, you won't get much more than this, because officially talking about thousands of dead NATO soldiers in Ukraine, would be quite a mess for the USA / european dictators. Not that the dumb european peoples would do anything about it. As I explained to you the last time you doubted these insane NATO casualties in the Ukraine war, most north americans and europeans that lost family members in the war in Ukraine, do believe the "training accident" or "sudden death" BS that they are given, because north americans and europeans overall, are dumb as bricks. Those that aren't, are censored, sanctioned, arrested, killed.
It would be the perfect scenario for the US if Russia attacks Europe. As the US could basically sit across the Atlantic fan the flames with the hope that European reconstruction would improve the US economy. It would be a repeat of WW2 making the US an economic super power.
Because with a war in Europe, all world trade would collapse. Hunger in Arab countries without Russian wheat would mean unrest and death. A lack of medicine would mean epidemics... in Africa, Brazil, and the USA, but the same applies because the USA isn't just dependent on medicines from India, for example, but without wheat from Russia, it wouldn't be able to produce medicines without oil and gas from Russia.
AND the USA also needs raw materials from outside to survive.
Without Russian uranium, about 47% of its energy production would be exhausted.
Of course, one could build up some things there if one had the time, which one doesn't have in this case.
The outbreak of war in Europe would mean that within hours, at most days, hardly anything would happen worldwide. ALL countries would impose export bans and bring back goods (oil, gas, coal) that were on their way.
The world population would halve within 3 to 5 years due to hunger, epidemics, civil war, and wars over resources.
Maybe?? Is that precisely the true goal, and it's now just a matter of who the villain is, so that they can then present themselves as such to the rest of the population! Is it the criminal USA, the evil Putin, or was it China? Someone has to be the culprit, otherwise it's impossible to present oneself as the new ruler.
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Always remember that the US or China will NOT automatically be the boss.
A halved world population needs someone to blame, a clear culprit, otherwise they'll look for someone in the chaos.
The global economy is a delicate, sensitive system... if Europe fails, it will drag everyone down with it, really everyone, because as Corona has shown, many countries were the first to ban ALL wheat exports... which just wasn't made public. Hungary, France, Poland, for example, passed corresponding laws.
What would happen would be an open war between Russia and NATO, and thus, whether Trump wants it or not, war in the US will also happen. Although Trump insists at EVERY opportunity, "IT WASN'T US." Counterattacks, please, in Warsaw, Berlin, Paris, or even London...has anyone noticed this yet?
How exactly is western Europe geographically central to global trade? Europe does not have a pacific coastline, Russia does and also access to the new Arctic trade routes with their icebreaker fleet. Also rail across the vast Russian land mass can easily bypass western Europe. Though Russia provides a large percentage of global grain supply, man does not live by grain alone. Africans do farm, they have soil, though they mayl need Russian fertilizer but their are other fertilizer producers. It is not world war 2 when the European colonies were obligated to fight for their colonial masters, the world has changed.
Intercontinental missiles are a mature technology today, not dreams in Dornberger's, Kammler's and Von Braun's heads. The US gets flattened like everybody. Except MAYBE China.
Well the greater concern would be submarine technology and submarine launched missiles. Submarines are the ultimate stealth technology that has made the geographic advantage of the US a great disadvantage during conflict. As the wide open approaches on the Pacific and Atlantic coasts of the US are basically wide open unlike Russia which is protected by choke points and ice.
The sabre rattling against Kaliningrad is just a last ditch effort on the part of NATO to divert *any* part Russian forces they can away from the ongoing debacle in Ukraine. OTAN is hoping Russia will move forces into the city as a counter to the threat. It's a typically amateur and transparent effort.
Go back four years and carefully trace how many unthinkable things became reality and how most Western escalations started off as such "mere posturing" and then actually happened.
Everything that comes out of their mouths should be taken extremely seriously.
Seriously enough for pre-emptive neutralization strikes to be carried out. Which Medvedev openly talked about the other day, but it is not people who think the way that Medvedev talks making the decisions in the Kremlin...
How many times are you going to suggest the Kremlin takes a course of action that benefits the USA, not Russia, before you realise how ignorant your ideas are?
For all the good they did for NATO and the EU, I would be very glad to be rid of the Baltic chihuahuas once and for all. I am from a small country, although one that is worth the 3 put together, so I tendo to solidarity with the small nations. These little worthless provocateurs do not deserve it, their only reason for existing is selling hatred.
The reality is slowly getting through, Ukraine is running out of men and material while Russia goes from strength to strength. The only question is how much bigger the cemeteries will need to get, and how many widows will be produced, before Ukraine accepts the warm embrace of Russia and freedom from Western abuse.
"Indeed, as we speak, Ukraine unfortunately seems to have lost the war, probably as early as the summer of 2023, when it became clear that its long-awaited counter-offensive had failed. One could imagine a spectacular turnaround, but it's not clear how. Of course, when you say this, people are shocked because it's unbearable to think that Ukraine has lost the war. It's unbearable for me too." -- Stéphane Audoin-Rouzeau
"OMG, it's too much to bear! I'm going to move to Canada!!"
Pardon my cynicism and sarcasm, but this is just plain silly and deserves to be ridiculed. To say that it is unbearable because Ukraine has lost means that you simply cannot cope with reality and you really ought to just crawl into a hole in the ground and pull a stone over it. Fact is, in America many people said exactly this when Trump won in 2016 and again in 2024, but so far as I know, they somehow found a way to get out from under their burden without leaving the States. Audoin-Rouzeau will likewise emerge from his self-imposed melodramatic misery and move on with his life.
"Unbearable" to him probably in reference to the number of dead soldiers. France started WW1 with c. 40 million inhabitants (same as Ukraine 2022) and suffered more than 1.5 million dead men during 1914-1918, a blow it never recovered from, even though no one fled the country. But at least it was among the winners of the war.
SLEEPER INSIGHT-Big winner here is China. They have lots of excess capacity. Rebuilding Ukraine will soak up years, if not decades of that capacity. This will result in an ultra-modern, Russian assimilated oblasts in eastern Ukraine. Once things get rolling millions of Ukrainians will return, many to claim title to land. This will be a bonanza for Russia, China and the region.
Yep, shiny modern cities, high speed railways, high tech farming and other industrial infrastructure, and more.
And plenty of desperate single women available for Chinese men that otherwise have no hope of finding wives (due to the Chinese gender disparity, est at 80 million).
I brought up this idea re: surplus Ukrainian women + surplus Chinese men during the eventual reconstruction after the first year or so of observing the Ukrainian meat grinder + everyone sane, young & male who could fleeing Ukraine.
And boy, did I ever get derided by people who supposedly knew all about Ukrainian women. To which one might reply that many were willing to marry old, fat rich dudes outside of Ukraine long before most of the military aged Ukrainian men were destroyed or fled?
I appreciate your comment considering the eventual bright side of the ultimate outcome.
Most of the resources are in regions already, or soon to be under Russian control. Russia will rebuild these regions and the people return.
Whatever regions are left will be wastelands, just as what the EU leaders, and regrettably what our American elites are doing to our and their European countries.
It was always obvious to me that the most realistic comparison to the Russian - Ukrainian war was actually the US Civil War. The same disparity in manpower and industrial capacity and the same inevitable results. I don't see the Ukrainian military intact through the end of the summer or early fall. At some point the common foot soldier sees the futility of resistance and subconsciously decides not to be the last man slaughtered for a lost cause. That's not a slight on the individual soldiers courage, and they've done a lot with little, it's just reality.
I had thought we were going to reach that stage about 9 months ago. Well not so it seems. The absence of reliable data makes this prediction game tricky...
I don't know what translator you're using, but "De nouveaux cimetieres militaires en projet dans toute l'Ukraine" means "New military cemeteries planned across (all of) Ukraine."
Secondly, that WW1 historian is an idiot. There was trench warfare in the Korean war, to say nothing of Dien Bien Phu in 1954.
As for the politics, I want nothing to do with it. I'm sick of millions of people's lives being decided by a handful of morons with ZERO mandate from the people.
Stéphane Audoin-Rouzeau was talking about "siege warfare, but fought in open country over hundreds of kilometers." That's continuous lines of interconnected fortifications facing off against each other and grinding each other down. Neither the Korean or various stages of the Vietnam war were like that.
Korea War was pretty fluid until it entered the late stalement period. French War in Indochine cant be compared with this.
We had the Eighty Years War between the Dutch and Spain in 1557 - 1648. A grueling trench warfare going on and on between truces and sudden pauses. The frenchmen is right.
There are not many "military historians" left. The feminists hate it: celebrations of "toxic masculinity" or whatever. Most university presses will not publish "military history." Most universities have 1 or even 0 lines in military history, and they mostly hire women, who write dissertations about "Gender in Combat: How Doctrines of Military Readiness Affirm Existing Gender Boundaries," to fill these positions to prove how enlightened they are.
For 30-40 years, people outside of academia, amateur historians, have written all the serious (and readable) military history.
"As for the politics, I want nothing to do with it. I'm sick of millions of people's lives being decided by a handful of morons with ZERO mandate from the people."
Surely by now, you have figured out that democracy is basically a way to insulate the decision-makers from public opinion.
Few know of the interview US journalist George Seldes obtained with von Hindenburg just after 11 November 1918 and immediately censored by the US Government and not released and published by Seldes until his 1929 book "You Can't Print That!"--Chapter Two: "The US Infantry won the war"--Hindenburg. The book can be freely downloaded, although I have my own hard copy, here, https://archive.org/details/YouCantPrintThat/page/n11/mode/2up
It's the sort of thing every historian needs to read, and then there's the rest of the book and his other publications. The French historians clearly have never read the interview. IMO, if it had been published immediately or several weeks later, the entire "Stabbed in the back" narrative would never have gained any purchase. Hindenburg was forthright in his honesty that the added weight of the Americans combined with the blockade and increasing political turmoil made surrender the only honorable choice as opposed to killing another million or more soldiers, which is the choice NATO Nazis are making.
One last observation. This will be the last major war to use human infantry. What will come soon is robot infantry--look at the abilities of China's humanoid robots: they play football, perform martial arts and run marathons. Team Putin has a massive hard on when it comes to Russia's development of robotics--industrial and humanoid. Many trillions of rubles are being funneled by the state and private business into the project. Drones and such will still exist, but along the FEBA they won't be blowing humans apart. Rears areas will still be populated by human soldiers but will be very rare on the front lines.
>the added weight of the Americans combined with the blockade and increasing political turmoil made surrender the only honorable choice as opposed to killing another million or more soldiers, which is the choice NATO Nazis are making.
Very different situation now, as this is not a war between Ukraine and Russia.
The job of Ukrainians is to keep dying while NATO is getting prepared to fight Russia directly. Which is exactly what is happening now and what is to follow unless Russia pre-empts them.
It is a fantasy to think that Russia's exports 'drive' Russia's war machine. This is due to a fundamental misunderstanding of economics and the role of money that has made the Western world in general an economic shambles. Countries make war with their resources, and they export in order to fairly exchange resources, eg, computer chips for oil. However, Russia is so self-sufficient that a cut in needed imports might be inconvenient, but would not stop function.
The other weird Lindsy Graham claim was that Putin needed to sell oil to China, et al, but the fact is that China, et al, need that oil. The best understanding of trade I have heard is Warren Mosler's idea that exports are gifts and trade is gift-exchange!
We are ruled by complete inbred idiots, more ignorant and morally corrupted than the French noble class before their revolution.
Russia has the oil, gas, minerals, manufacturing capacity, geographical straddling of Eurasia, not dependant on vulnerable sea lanes (for trade to China for example) and the critical human capital.
No one mentions how important an educated work force is to a functioning economy.
In America we have a native born literacy rate of 74% and falling. The 40 million foreign immigrants our government paid the expenses to import are illiterate.
We do not have a large skilled labor force and the work ethic is all but gone.
We don't have a real economic base. Leveraging debt does not produce tangible items of value.
What exactly do we produce that other countries might need?
Our sacrosanct arms industry produces antiquated systems at exorbitant costs that are useless in practical terms.
The US dollar as a global trade standard is being ditched.
>We are ruled by complete inbred idiots, more ignorant and morally corrupted than the French noble class before their revolution.
Inbred and morally corrupted they might be, but look at the last four years.
Who is advancing and who is retreating?
It is not them that is suffering one major geostrategic loss after another it is the Russians, Iranians and the Chinese. Meanwhile they are winning.
So it doesn't seem like they are all that incompetent to me given that they are winning massively right now, and doing so by very skillfully exploiting the weaknesses, split loyalties and corruption of their enemies.
1) The war is currently fought about 1000 km inside what is historically Russian territory
2) Syria was lost
3) There are US bases, soon with nukes too, in Finland
4) The US gave itself permission to begin attacking Iran, the same way it did with Syria a decade ago (and we know how that ended eventually) and suffered nothing for it.
5) Look at the map 40 years ago, compared it to now. How much does the empire control currently? There are less than a dozen countries resisting to various degrees -- Russia, Belarus, China, North Korea, Iran, Yemen, Venezuela, Cuba, perhaps a few others would potentially join (Nicaragua, Algeria, Eritrea, Laos, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, but not much more than that).
Everything else that was on the Soviet side in the 1980s has been either destroyed or taken over.
The destruction of the Soviet Union is a different question. This war started in 2014 or 2022 and until now the West is nor winning at all.
If you want to take into account more general questions and go back that far in history, think about the economic data of China and the USA now and 40 years ago.
I do wonder what they think China and India will do without oil from Russia. Is the west willing and able to sell them enough oil to replace Russian oil? Do thier civilians face hardship from reduced oil from the west? I guess this is why some folks consider sanctions an act of war. (I'll include that I don't know who those folks are - just a vague thought that I've heard it before)
The thought is that China and India will burn dollars or western debt as a substitute for Russian energy. Other than the faith in exchange, burning to produce heat is probably the next best use of paper money.
Correct, and Russia is nowhere remotely close to a everything-for-the-front-everything-for-victory mode, under which "the economy" ceases to be a concern whatsoever because it all goes back to Stalinism and central planning and the nice thing about those is that there are no economic crises under a planned economy (the USSR never had a "recession").
Russia still does have the option of doing that.
The problem is that the reason why it hasn't been done is the precise same reason the war is being so catastrophically lost so far (domestic politics having to do with preserving the post-Soviet socio-economic order), and I don't see that changing. These people already gave away half their country in order to establish the current system, they will gladly break up what remains rather than jeopardize it for the sake of winning in Ukraine.
Much as I am thankful Russia is winning, the loss of over a million Young Ukrainian lives is a terrible tragedy, and the fact that the USA couldn’t give a toss, makes me ill.
It's all the accompanying stuff too Catherine. Millions of their youngest and brightest have fled, unlikely to return. They've no money and any assets they had appear to have been snaffled by the likes of Blackrock. If and when Odessa is taken, imo, it's game over, the belligerent Western Elites will focus their attempts to take Russia to somewhere else, in fact I think that has already started in the Caucasus and Baltic regions. Sad, sad, sad.
And that many bodies are burned to avoid payment to families. And that families are often forced onto signing waivers on war reparations before receiving the bodies for burial.
This is a sick country, led by depraved people in cahoots with pure evil across the West.
The older I get, the more it feels like all wars are avoidable. As much as U.S. citizens opposed the Vietnam War, it seems like the most defensible to me as far as reason. There really was an irreconcilable clash between Marxism and liberal democracy, and Vietnam really was a country that the Marxists were attempting to pull into their sphere.
All the rest in the past century and then some seem to me to be over money, and a desire of Jewish people to obtain the land of Israel (and subsequently dominate the Middle East a.k.a. "neocons").
I'm not particularly knowledgeable about all of the wars of the European middle ages, but they seem like mostly personal grudge fests. And Roman wars were about profits - to the general who fought it, and to the soldiers whose loyalty the general bought.
Nope, ideology in the various US wars since WWII was only a motivation for the cannon fodder and a fig leaf for politicians. Vietnam/SE Asia was one of the first natural resource control wars and was recognized as such by US/vassal leadership in private, the US/Western need for control of world resources and their extraction (along with preventing industrialization and use of those resources in the countries which merely possessed them) was openly written about in Ford Foundation financed "think tank" studies carried out by RAND Corp. et alia during the 1950s and put into action across the world by the 1960s, which programs are faltering a bit only recently.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s an obscenity. The western and Banderite politicians responsible for this, their puppeteers at Davos and in the intelligence agencies and the propagandist lackeys in the MSM and ‘think tanks’ should face a Nuremberg Trials for this, with sentences to match.
Russia is not winning, and it is precisely because a million Ukrainians died (one people, who wrote that in the summer of 2021?), among many other reasons.
All completely unnecessary had that same person not allowed his bluffs to be called in such a way
Throw in the genocide in Gaza that the U.S. is bankrolling. Should make you sick. Don't worry though the Orange man is going to drain the swamp, toss out the warmongers and "deep state," and usher in an age of peace.
The loss of "over a million" young Ukrainians is the point. To the men behind the curtains, the sacrifice of the innocence of an entire nation is the goal: its young men--the future, it's old men--the memory, its women sold into economic slavery and (even better!) prostitution, its children ripped from the protective cocoon of their parents to be better programmed and abused, and all throughout the black butchers of organ harvests at work.
Ukraine isn't being murdered, it's being sacrificed to moloch. And nothing gets results in the occult world better than the sacrifice of innocence, except the mass sacrifice of innocents.
The men behind the curtains will accept nothing less than mastery of the world for their efforts. Until then, the ritual will continue.
Russia has been holding off, but they're going to have to cut the head off the Ukulele snake and turn Kiev into a pile of rubble for this to have any chance of ending. If the US/NATO puppet masters no longer have any Ukulele puppets, this thing finally ends.
Kiev is not the heart of Bandera land, that lies further West, in Galicia, and head of this particular snake is even further West, IN the West. Turning Kiev into rubble would not improve anything, but WOULD *prove* to those equivocating in NATO, that Russia IS a danger.
The sanctions were supposed to defeat Russia. They didn't work. The neocons as voiced by Gay Lindsey say it didn't work because Brazil, India, and China still traded with Russia. Gay Lindsey says the US is going to impose crippling sanctions on Brazil, India, and China and this will destroy the Russian economy. That is their theory. The only country that might possibly break is Brazil. Lula is talking tough guy but is the obvious weakest and least important link. India and China are not going to stop trading with Russia. This is a neocon pipe dream.
Ukraine has not lost until it is defeated, right?
It seems the mortuary business is booming though.
Indeed.
This individual with a not-so-typical Ukrainian name (Serhi Derbin,) is making a cemetery business great again. The question is why he is not on the frontline?
He’s bought the right connections, I expect.
Clues to Surnames That May Be Jew
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Names ending in -berg (Weinberg, Goldberg)
Names ending in -stein (Einstein, Hofstein)
Names ending in -witz (Rabinowitz, Horowitz)
Names ending in -baum (Metzenbaum, Himmelbaum)
Names ending in -thal (Blumenthal, Eichenthal)
Names ending in -ler (Adler, Winkler)
Names ending in -feld (Seinfeld, Berkenfeld)
Names ending in -blum (Weissblum, Rosenblum)
Names having to do with wealth (Goldberg, Silverstein)
Names derived from Hebrew words (Mizrachi, from mizrakhi, meaning "eastern, or easterner")
"Names ending in -berg (Weinberg, Goldberg)"
Those names are also extremely common in Scandinavia, with absolutely no connection to "jews".
Because when the notion about there being a need for family names came around, the most common solution was to take the name of where the family lived, either village or the old name of their farm.
And those invariably have names like Berg(mountain), Sjö(lake), Ström(stream/river), Hed(heath) etc etc. Everything based on the terrain where the village or farm was located.
However, short and simple names like Berg were also used as soldier names in the Swedish military, where each few farms supported a soldiers croft/house, and the first soldier to live there got whatever family name the military decided and then the name was inherited by the next soldier living there rather than by his family, though sometimes later when family names became more common the family of the former soldier retained the name as well.
Which is why there's a lot of Svärd(sword), Sköld(shield), Lans(lance), Pil(arrow), Kvick(quick), Rask(speedy)... The basic requirement was that it was short and easy to recognise, and mostly one syllable. Like Berg, and Sund(sound) etc...
What’s your point ?
The etymology of names.
Obviously some of these suffixes are not a cast iron rule: Hitler, for instance; or Battenberg.
I’d have said -ner was a more common Jewish suffix than -ler (e.g. Posner, Eisner). But here again, you do get exceptions, such as Elsner (i.e. from Elsen).
So why is Einstein pronounced like the beer container, but ultimate slimeball Jeffrey Epstein pronounced like it rhymes with "teen"? I think I am just going to go with the rules I learned in German class - "ei" is like hard "i" and "ie" is Iike hard "e". No exceptions from now on.
So are the porn and pirated human organ 'industries' thriving.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/202/498/1321527565287.jpg
Spot on.
So? Nobody in Washing, nobody in Brussels, nobody in Kiev cares, any more than a farmer mourns the deaths of his chickens at the packing plant.
That's the Truth. Not even Ukrainistanians care anymore.
Doesn't Zelensky own some of the gravestone and funeral home business?
No...Germany was defeated in WW1 the minute fresh American troops in numbers started showing up on the battlefield...Same here...If Ukraine ever had a chance (I doubt it) that chance ended up with the collapse of the Kursk offensive...
Yep, without the Americans Britain and France would have sued for peace. Not a good outcome for the American bankers.
Central banks and MICs benefit from war.
Meaning the untermensch Juuz.
This was a tragedy because the victory of the 'Allies' was really a victory of the bankers. Germany's industrial economy was superior to France's and Britain's in terms of quality and quality of life for workers, and her banking system was investment oriented and not financialized. [Michael Hudson]
There was a great French film about WW1, and the effect of the war bringing the end of the native French and German aristocracies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_Illusion
The elite of the postwar period would be the financiers. From the film (translation).
"For a commoner, dying in a war is a tragedy. But for you and me, it's a good way out"
And the British upper middle class. It changed society in the UK. All mature oak trees had been cut down, for example. A vast number of women had no kids.
But it was much worse in France. Syphilis was rampant.
I didn't come from money, but did have American heritage, had ancestors on both sides of the family who fought in the American Revolution. By the 1970s, the handwriting was already on the wall. The tree of liberty needed watering, but the modern population would not go there. My brother and I decided not to have children. We refused to breed in captivity.
At least in those day the elites sent their sons to the front lines. Unlike today and scum like Johnson, Netanyahu and Starmer.
'All mature oak trees had been cut down, for example.’ Yes, another now forgotten consequence of the war, but noted in Lewis Grassic Gibbon’s ‘Sunset Song’. The stripping of the woods for trench timber and duckboards, lucrative for those who owned the woods, left many fields and the soil and crops in them horribly exposed to the wind. Along with the demise of large country house domestic staffs and the popularisation of wristwatches, mass cigarette smoking and spiritualism, there was also a huge growth in female-female couples, pairing up to share a home, companionship and expenses in the absence of any real chance of marriage, the nation being short of about a million men in the 18-30 bracket.
Most of the West knows their countries are dead. Their societies, their culture, their shared values, their civilization all but gone, disappeared, or just plain gone.
That is why Germany, who lost two world wars back-to-back is completely falling apart. Sandwiched between repeated defeats on the battlefield was a full-on systemic collapse of the Weimar Republic and adject servitude to the United States.
Add to that, how Germany was forced to watch as their only supply of cheap energy was taken away from them. The destruction of the Nord Stream Pipeline, critical civilian infrastructure cavalierly blown up by the United States, will make Germany a Third World country within a decade. Nothing like having an ally declare war on you. Add betrayal to the list of failures Germany has been forced to endure.
Perhaps bringing in illegal aliens, by the millions, a country can forget. I don't know what affect a Hollowcaust [sic on purpose] had on Germany's will to live. There is no hope to be found in genocide. Of course, that hasn't stopped one of their victims from picking up where the Reich left off -- and seemingly enjoying themselves. Quite well, in fact.
Just like Germany, the West sees how their new master (the United States) is just like their old master. And the United States hasn't even gotten started yet. We are seeing this process playout through the entire West. That is why they are committing suicide. Since World War II all of Europe and much of the world became vassal states to the United States. With victory came their servitude. And now the United States, their master, has turned evil.
"Freedom. That's just some people talking."
"Freedom. That's just some people talking."
You're a prisoner walking through this world all alone.
‘Deeeeesperado…. You’d better come to your senses.’
The (((American))) bankers.
Absolutely correcto, si senor :)))
Well, quite.
Yep, that’s why they came in. If the British and French Empires had gone down like the Russian one did - which seemed a real possibility by mid-1917 - then Wall Street would have been ruined, the US stripped of its loaned out capital. That was the real reason for US intervention (and for Democrat resegregator Woodrow Wilson's ruthless and Unconstitutional crackdown on domestic dissent). Like the USS Maine in 1898 and 9/11 a century later, the Lusitania and the Zimmermann Telegram were mere convenient pretexts for a decision those in the corridors of power had, essentially, already made.
The US Would not have been ruined, but J.P. Morgan and others would have taken a hit.
With respect, I disagree. Wall Street would have taken more than a hit. Ultimately, a lot of the $ billions (which was real money, in those days) lent to Great Britain (as it was then), France and Italy was Americans’ savings and businesses' deposits. Had those three regimes collapsed and their revolutionary successors repudiated the debts, then the whole US economy - which had been exporting food and ordnance hand over fist, on credit - would have taken a tremendous body blow. That’s not to say that the politically influential bankers were concerned with anything except their own welfare. But I would contend that the whole US economy would have been badly shaken, conceivably set back 15-20 years, by the consequences of an Allied default.
That doesn’t mean that US intervention was ‘justified’, however: it wasn’t, and it would have been better for everyone if they hadn't come in. (Easy to say now, of course, knowing what we know now about how the 20th century panned out.)
Eugene Debs was right: Wall Street should never have ben allowed to fund the belligerents in the first place, it only kept the war going and got millions more killed than would otherwise have been the case.
In 1917, the average frustrated American's savings were not entrusted to the Mellons or Morgans or Carnegies of the world. The banking business was much more fragmented and localized. For that matter, a lot of the loans to H.M. Government were collateralized, the Exchequer were basically forcing UK holders of high grade US and Latin American securities to deliver their holdings to the government to be used as collateral for loans from American bankers.
For that matter, the US was still producing things that people wanted then, and was largely self-sufficient.
Would an Entente defeat have meant losses and disruption? Yes. Collapse? No.
I shoulda added sovereign debt default is not repudiation. GB might well have defaulted. Repudiation would have been extremely unlikely.
You omit another important backstory. Germany offered peace to Britain in 1916, with a return to the pre-war boundaries of 1914. Lord Rothschild persuaded the British to refuse it if he could convince the USA to enter the war. Which he did.
In exchange, the British signed the Balfour Declaration, which started the Zionist state in motion and the slow genocide of the Palestinians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
In that light, you could say Ukraine lost from the time it started the war. Russia dominates at a 10-to-1 ratio. Russia can't lose. It's an impossibility. Ukraine put up more resistance than I ever expected. I have yet to see an unconditional surrender. Oh right, that's pending. lol
The Ukraine gambit was an attempt to repeat the Afghanistan ploy from the 80s, to stress the Russian government to collapse. Wars outcome was decided when the whole sanctions package failed and Putin didn't back down.
The war's outcome was never in doubt that Russia would win at a ten to one advantage with or without sanctions. If Russia takes out Ukraine, it's a complete win. If Russia leaves Ukraine intact, it's only a partial win.
On the field of battle sure, but if you can break your opponent's will to fight you can achieve victory despite that. 4th Gen warfare, iirc. China, Russia and the resistance as such is using unrestricted warfare in several domains to bring down the US empire, in order to prevent a nuclear war.
It is a win if you achieve your objectives. Don't confine yourself to extremes. Russia had clearly defined objectives to meet in this operation. If it meets those objectives, it wins - and nowhere does Russia indicate it is after unconditional surrender.
I see it not as such at all, Victor. Russia's clearly defined objectives are going to be a bridge too short by not taking Ukraine out when it should have.
Then it is not a win. It is an agreement to end hostilities (for now).
Ukraine can sue for peace and give up Crimea and the four Oblast, retreat out of Donetsk and Cherson etc. What will Russia do then?
And how do you think the de-nazification will be effectuated?
>Russia had clearly defined objectives to meet in this operation. If it meets those objectives, it wins
Another fundamental misunderstanding.
The current "Russian objectives" constitute begging for surrender on terms that can be presented as a somewhat working fig leaf to the Russian public.
The range of debate right now is between that and an unconditional Russian surrender.
There is no "win" whatsoever within that range.
And that is the Kremlin's official real position. Think about that.
“If Russia leaves Ukraine intact”?
INTACT? Ukraine is so far from intact, it’s not even funny.
I think it is quite funny.
Ukraine's lines have held surprisingly well considering they're at a 10 to 1 disadvantage, but helped by NATO.
The AFU forces are still intact. The Kiev regime is still in power and intact. Hence, Ukraine is still intact. lol Dream on, dude.
The Russian Federation became a very much improved nation-state under Putin. There was no space for a collapse and nowhere to run from Mother Russia.
Finland put up more resistance against Stalin in the early stage of the Winter War than anybody expected also. And reality checked in later.
The reality is still not checking in for most Finns, who continue to claim it was a historically unparalleled total victory.
I thought the Finns held off the Russian offensive.
For a while they did, then they lost the war. The only reason they did not lose the country was that Stalin was preoccupied with bigger things in Europe.
They largely held off Stalin’s army in the 1939-40 Winter War, inflicting heavy casualties, then negotiated a ceasefire that left the USSR in possession of a southerly chunk of Finnish territory. With the launch of Barbarossa in 1941, the Finns naturally enough threw in their lot with the Germans in an effort to get their land back. This they did….until 1944, when the Soviet steamroller rolled back west and drove them out again. Fortunately they managed to secure a peace deal that left the bulk of Finland unoccupied and intact, the price being strict non-alignment: ‘Finlandisation’, as it became known. That would have been the rational answer for Ukraine, but the West’s political pseudo-leadership no longer does rationality.
Yep, that’ll be why Karelia has been Russian for the past 80 years….
The Winter War lasted a little over a winter, and was hardly a tour de force of Soviet prowess.
This war has been continuing for over three years.
>In that light, you could say Ukraine lost from the time it started the war.
Again, this is not a war between Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine is a fully disposable proxy of the West that nobody cares about. One is making a fundamental catastrophic mistake if approaching the situation as a war between Russia and Ukraine.
>Russia dominates at a 10-to-1 ratio. Russia can't lose. It's an impossibility.
Russia already lost catastrophically, without a fight too, thus it is very much a possibility.
Just as it lost in 1989-1991 without a fight.
I said Ukraine lost the war in December 2013.
I didn't expect to be that much right back then.
I even used to say "to the last Ukrainian" in those years.
I would argue the Kursk operation accelerated the certain ultimate defeat of the UAF.
They pulled their best units from Donbass region and commenced an offensive into the RF with no achievable objective that would lead to "victory". The quantities of weapon systems and trained servicemen lost, caused a fatal weakening in the Donbass.
It was a gift to the Russian General Staff.
I cannot think of a better way to solidify the Russians' public resolve to rally around their flag and government than having German Leopard tanks and foreign soldiers invading the Kursk Region. Foreigners again killing and raping Russian civilians. I can understand how the fascist Ukranian factions would be enthusiastic for this. But the American generals who plan and coordinate the UAF operations are proven to be imbeciles.
"But the American generals who plan and coordinate the UAF operations are proven to be imbeciles."
Quelle surprise!
Imbeciles is only a start for their full description. As there were only two possible outcomes from day one, a Russian victory or a Nuclear War they were also psychopaths and suicidal maniacs.
On that note, I live in Alaska near several expansive military reserves. They were playing around with very expensive but technologically crudely made drones.
It seems they heard that drones are the weapon of the future and maybe they need to try and fly them.
Keep in mind this is July, the hot/dry season with endless sunshine in the interior with dry vegetation and forests of stunted, highly combustible black spruce.
The idiots only managed to prove these drones are junk and start several wildfires. Closing the highways and forcing residents to evacuate their homes.
And this is the condition of our vaunted military.
"And this is the condition of our vaunted military.
USA! USA! USA!
Bring on the Blue Angels!!
And ours. Bring on the Red Arrows, the Royal Horse Artillery, the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment and the massed pipes and drums of the Royal Regiment of Scotland.
Yes, but on the positive side, they will get lucrative post-retirement directorships at Raytheon and General Dynamics.
Iirc Brian, I understand the plan was to sieze the Kursk NPP, indeed a valuable asset and bargaining chip had success been achieved. The problem was that the NPP was something like 50 miles away, and they didn't have a cat in hell's chance of getting anywhere near. Sure, initially they had the element of surprise, and were up against a below parr border force and some raw recruits, but after that "money shot", things went very limp, very quickly and became for Ukraine a suicide mission. A fine example of ambition and expectation far exceeding reality.
One of the problems with Kursk operation was, the participants were even more surprised with their orders than Russians, who (rationally) didn't expect the loonies to come up with that idea.
I heard they thought it was a border protection operation till they got there. The Brits informed them of the cunning plan and the rest is history.
The British have an extraordinary ability to attempt daring operations, but with others troops taking the bullets.
"The British have an extraordinary ability to attempt daring operations, but with others troops taking the bullets."
Or...kill women and children like they did in the Boer War. Estimates are that 30,000 women and children died in Brit prisoner of war camps. Can't beat the men in the field? Beat up and kill their women and children then. Cowards.
@abcdefg
"Other's troops"
Toujours le Gallipoli, ANZAC?
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Killing their women & children-
Take a look at the British dirty war in Kenya ca. 1952 - 1960. Since the victims weren't white (and the Brits kept the records sealed/destroyed much of them before withdrawing from their African colony), nobody in "The West" thinks about it. British started the war by trying to expropriate the best highlands farming land (which had a climate Europeans found desirable) from the locals, first by taxing them in currency (which they did not have) & then expropriation of their farm land for unpaid taxes. When the locals reacted as it had been predicted they would, the Brits moved on to putting over 300,000 of them into concentration camps to be killed slowly. The Mau Mau rebels killed less than 100 British civilians and military. The British (officially) killed over 10,000 rebels- But unofficially killed over 100,000 detainees in concentration camps, just as they had in South Africa, killing off most of the children (their next generation) of those tribes they wished to take the lands from. As they controlled the information very effectively, they got away with it, despite their own people inspecting what happened "on the ground" noting that they were behaving as badly as Hitler or Stalin ever had.
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"We knew the slow method of torture [at the Mau Mau Investigation Center] was worse than anything we could do. Special Branch there had a way of slowly electrocuting a Kuke—they'd rough up one for days. Once I went personally to drop off one gang member who needed special treatment. I stayed for a few hours to help the boys out, softening him up. Things got a little out of hand. By the time I cut his balls off, he had no ears, and his eyeball, the right one, I think, was hanging out of its socket. Too bad, he died before we got much out of him."
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_rebellion#CITEREFElkins2005
It was funny how Brits took credit for planning it and then they shut up when it went wrong. Everyone was trying to take credit for that great victory.
Very reminiscent of the great summer offensive a bit earlier.
Why are those people... So stupid?
Correct on the objective, which underscores the insanity of how NATO, ultimately the American general staff who plan all operations in Ukraine are.
What would the UAF, along with American and Polish ground force contingents do if they captured the Kursk NPP?
They would know they would be cut off and then what? Where do they find men stupid enough to conduct suicidal operations like this? What good is a sign up bonus you can't spend?
They were shelling the Zaparozhe NPP and claiming it was Russia firing on its' own servicemen and captured facility.
Operation Spiderweb targeting part of Russia's nuclear strategic triad bomber force could have triggered a nuclear response.
It is impossible to concentrate forces for large arrow offensives without incurring catastrophic losses when you lack the firepower to suppress the enemy in this war.
"...nd they didn't have a cat in hell's chance of getting anywhere near. "
EXCUSE ME!?!
😂
The Kursk debacle is pretty much the same as when Hitler over ruled his generals in going after Stalingrad, they knew it wasn't going to work but then politics and a madman, someone that wasn't trained to understand how the military works, got in the way.
The Kursk Operation did exactly what it was intended to do, which was to shift the narrative away from Ukrainian defeat to Russian incompetence.
So it was an incompetent operation from a military perspective, by your own admission, then? Cant imagine many generals who are keen to put their men forward to die for the sake of narrative management.
You could make the arguement that narrative management has always been part of war fighting, but if we're being honest, the elephant in the room here is protecting Western tax payers from seeing the true nature of the Kiev regime and the West's true aims in supporting the war, not because it delivers the Ukranians any tactical advantage to lose thousands of men attempting to sieze the NPP.
The point wasn't to seize the NPP but to show Russian incompetence and thus, keep the arms and cash flowing. Stop the arms and cash the Kiev regime collapses forthwith.
It worked. The arms and cash kept flowing and keep flowing.
Help me to visualize a scenario please where Ukraine could have sustained and enlarged the attack in Kursk.
LOL.
There's no such animal. You'd need to posit a *vast* increase in available manpower, artillery, logistics etc. All of which, as with those lost in Kursk, had a better use (but not lifetime) elsewhere.
The whole point of the incursion was to perform a rapid, balls to the wall, march to Kursk NPP, to either swap it for Zaporhizia NPP ( for which the US *STILL* has a major hard on), or, as Dave suggests, Chernobyl it and blame Russia for the fallout hitting Europe.
"Same here"
Are you being funny?
Do you think the Russians would wait for 6 months while the USA moves troops and weapons across the Atlantic? Anyway, they are no match for the Russians.
This is not a repeat of the Iraq wars.
"This is not a repeat of the Iraq wars."
In common parlance this is called "biting off more than you can chew."
When this fiasco broke out, I told my liberal friends here that there was no effing way the Russians would lose this blood-fest. Riddle me this Batman...who was right?!
(caveat: I'm in the brainwashed USA! USA! USA!)
History for morons. 😂
Please , learn true history before bullshitting Hollywood fairy tales like an ignorant american fool.
"No...Germany was defeated in WW1 the minute fresh American troops in numbers started showing up on the battlefield..."
Dude, the first halfyear of USA troops arriving were mostly a disaster.
USA troops arrived arrogant, stupid and completely incompetent about modern warfare a la WWI.
When French and Brits tried to give them briefings about do's and don'ts, they just called it cowardly rubbish and mostly ignored it.
Which is why their initial involvement were utter debacles.
Don't forget, the Russian revolutions meant that the single biggest and most difficult frontline for WWI Germany suddenly disappeared.
This easily outweighed the presence of some yanks arriving.
According to Zelenskiiy, so long as the west goes on fuelling active resistance in Ukraine it has not lost. Indeed, that can count as a sort of real time ongoing victory!
In the land of the magic money tree and the horn of plenty, resources are just not an issue, at least they are not if you have become accustomed to plundering other people's. It is just not your problem, right?
As General Maximus said in the Gladiator film as the Germanics challenged the Romans, "Some people just don't know when they are defeated.".
Victor, You need to focus on being first, man. lol
Perhaps you're right. I'll give that some heavy thought.
Arminius did not talk that much. He just trapped and destroyed three Roman Legions in the steamy forests of Teutoburg in 9 CE and changed the course of history.
Always someone around introducing reality. ;-)
Yah and some don’t even know that they are in their graves
Ukraine has not lost as long as the Perception is that they are winning. It could go on and on until Russian stormtroopers enters the Bankova bunker and starts the Flamethrower… This War is religious and no one in West are allowed another faith.
Nobody cares whether Ukraine has lost, this is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, but a war between Russia and the West fought in Ukraine, and increasingly, inside official Russia itself (in reality it has been fought entirely inside Russia from the very beginning).
Ukraine is fully disposable and nobody cares about it, except perhaps the Russians.
And the very fact the war started was already a gigantic defeat for Russia, which has only become much worse since then.
All thanks to the predatory oligarchy installed in power during and after the USSR collapse, and then carefully preserved under the 5D-chess grandmaster currently in power.
You know this old sketch of the film Holly Graal of Monty Python?
When king Arthur cut arms and legs to challenging Black Knight who want to keep on fighting and insults Arthur?
Wonderful statement. And defeat is not declared until some Ukrainian official sign a document of Surrender. Even if Russia reach Dnieper there is no defeat. Even if Zelensky, Schmygal and Yermak is vaporized there is no defeat. Defeat must be recognized by the defeated part.
The entire point of these enormous cemeteries (and the MSM reports of same) is to tell the West "You Owe Us Now!"
Moral pressure? On those people? Good luck with that...
Moral pressure works when the pressured want it to.
This is why poland and the baltic poodles are encouraged to curate and nurture gripes thst are in some cases, hundreds of years old, while the people of Vietnam and Iraq are not.
"Ukraine has not lost until it is defeated, right?"
I called their defeat 2nd week of March in 2022.
I never saw any reason to go back on that ever since.
Ukrainistan LOST back in the days of the 1st Cookie Monster!
https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-35c
My lucky week. Two posts in two days and I'm first again. Lounging around pays off. Thanks Simplicius.
Almost, lol.
Well.....
The West's strategy, after failing to weaken Russia (and to a lesser extent China and Iran) seems to be to create as much chaos as possible. It's the old "if I can't have it nobody will". Just how long can this strategy of weakness continue? Martin Armstrong predicted the other day that by next year Russia and NATO will be in direct conflict. Ramping up from September.
No coincidence that the Netherlands's failed prime minister Mark Rutte, is now heading NATO.
That horrible, obsequious little grinning marionette... What a shower of dross the political leadership of Western Europe is these days. No doubt he’s the product of one of those Soros/ WEF ‘Future Leaders' programmes.
A supply chain not supported by adequate resources and industrial capacity is not really a supply chain.
We've been hearing that one for over three years now, but the escalations keep on coming.
Armstrong has a software program he's been feeding data for decades. All manner of data and lots of it. The core methodology is cycles and it's pretty mind blowing. Not a guarantee though, but we only have a few weeks to know the truth.
I wonder how long Rotterdam would last in an Oreshnik barrage?
Doubtful. Western governments are quite unpopular. Any steps to mobilization will crash these governments and energize political breakthroughs for pacifist right wing parties.
You people always make the wrong projections. You haven't even been keeping up with what's happening in your own damn countries. Here's a quick refresher course: step by step, Western European countries have been clamping down on their respective populations, including restrictions on free speech, alternative political parties, and Christianity, along with any street opposition to immigration, LGBTXYZ, etc. Western leaders have hijacked what were once well-understood concepts of democracy, freedom, diplomacy, international agreements, and the like. They've all been redefined according to the autocrats' deceptive exclusionary definitions. The upshot is that western governments are one step removed from full-scale tyrannies.
As soon as some part of the LOC is completely overrun, it will become glaringly obvious that Ukraine has lost. At that point, guess what your European governments will do? They'll declare a state of emergency, fly in as many troops as they can into Odessa, and initiate full-scale mobilization of European populations, many of whom are now either freezing, out of work, on drugs, or generally excluded from a normal place in society because their leaders have deliberately trashed everything. Do you think that kind of population will resist? No effing way. They'll be drafted into the armed forces of Europe, and sent over to Ukraine to beef up the initial incursion of professional troops. Soon Russia will be facing a 500,000-sized army in southern and western Ukraine, and Russia will have nobody to blame but itself for its stubborn refusal to discard its go-slow strategy.
Along with troop movements, NATO will declare the Baltic Sea as a no-fly, no-go zone. All of this will be the final nail in the coffin of the West's provocations against Russia, because it will not actually invade any Russian territory. Russia will be forced into a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't corner. Either accept European troops and Kaliningrad blockade as a fait accompli, or else declare war against NATO. Good luck with all your hopium projections then.
Where is NATO getting 500,000 troops from? A draft would make the Poll Tax riots look like the Jubilee celebrations.
Us people have far more insight than you people if you genuinely think NATO will mobilise a citizens army to defend Ukraine.
C'mon Dave. Virtue signalling and staying at home are easy; sending your lad off to be killed in Ukraine isn't in the same ball-park. It isn't even the same fckng sport.
Your reading comprehension is poor. I already told you. European populations have already been softened up and brainwashed by their respective governments. They will put up minimal resistance to being drafted. They might even welcome it, free room and board, stand up to evil Russia, etc etc etc. Like I said, you haven't been keeping up with current events, so your ability to project the future is deeply flawed. (BTW, NATO won't mobilize, it will be the governments within NATO, as usual.)
You do have a point Eric considering how the majority responded to the Plandemic 2020. Obediently queueing to enter supermarkets, all 2 metres apart. Donning masks that they were told were absolutely useless given the pore size in comparison to a Virus (that nobody afaik has as yet isolated). Then the Clot shots...again queueing around the block to get jabbed and jabbed again. Btw...there's a bloke walks past my house every morning, masked. I call him Mr Maskie. Between 07:00 & 07:10 he walks down the hill, returning between 07:30 & 07:45. I have tried to engage, saying hello or good morning. I get no response, never in 4 years, he stares straight ahead, resolute in his task.
I don't believe it. People were willing to go along with the covid crap because they were scared of dying from covid. After what has gone on in Ukraine (and even the cheerleaders are finding it difficult to mask the numbers of dead and wounded) people would rightly see that their chance of dying is much greater in war. They won't go quietly.
That's the big question: can Westerners be terrified into seeing Russia as an existential threat?
Exactly, COVID was the Deep State's trial run in regards to how the masses will behave. I think it worked out for them. Enforcers of that agenda are given medals here in Canada.
You make the mistake of lumping all European nations together. Germany and Poland will fight, and probably the Brits who are a passive and defeated nation. However, I have my doubts about the Spanish, French and Eastern Europeans.
Or perhaps I just know Europe better than you do?
There is no way we'd accept being drafted by Starmer to die in Ukraine. And we're easily one of the most aggressive nations in Europe. Only an idiot would believe that a draft on young people would be accepted here. Have you heard of the Poll tax riots? That was over tax. This would be a matter of life and death.
Also there are no restrictions on Christianity here, mainly because evangelicals are a tiny minority and most people are at best nominal Christians.
So let's pretend NATO, or the countries with in it, VERY important distinction apparently, declares the Baltic a no fly zone. First Russian civilian jet downed is a clear Casus Belli. How is that even an issue?
The New York City draft riots (July 13–16, 1863), 120 dead and the rioters fighting along ethnic lines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots
Are you going to send ethnic group ABC into the ethnic ghettos of the XYZs to ship them off to the military camps or NOT send ethnic group ABC into the ethnic ghettos of the XYZs to ship them off to the military camps?
Either way it's going to rip the society apart.
The demoralized obese unemployed blobs of the West (in Britain they're officially called NEETs, Not in Employment Education or Training) will passively sit around for quarantine lock-downs, pornography, welfare checks, vidya games, and high fructose corn syrup, but they will not sit around and passively go to war.
It's an inherent contradiction.
And if there's one thing that could possibly cut through their gooning corn syrup haze and get them off the sofa, it would be the very real chance of being blown to hell by the Russian guns. In which case they would be doing their utmost to get AWAY from the Russians not run towards them.
In spite of draft riots, the tyrant Abraham Lincoln still got his way, didn't he? Thousands of draftees were inducted into the Union Army, whether they liked it or not.
So the New York City draft riots were 162 years or 6-7 generations ago in a very different America, an America of a largely rural population, local loyalties, the frontier spirit and where some sort of organized faith in God was basically compulsory.
And yet, mass mobilization of young men for military service still produced the bloodiest urban rioting that the nation has ever seen among it's least assimilated ethnic minorities, namely the Blacks and the Irish.
Social cohesion is now worse, much worse and so the chance of mobilization causing huge social disorder are greater, much greater.
Better historical examples to use would be the counter-culture mass protests of the late 60s and early 70s, the long hot summer of 1967 and the Kent State massacre of 1970, the draft was absolutely at the center of all of that.
The Vietnam war called for a limited mobilization under long standing rules to fight against a second rate enemy. An American and NATO mobilization to fight Russian in Europe would be a massive mobilization that would overthrow the established social contract of the past 50 years in order to fight a gigantic war against a first rate enemy (quite possibly two).
It's just not going to happen, it would tear the country apart.
Here's an interesting thing to consider, what do you think it would take to get America to do what Russia and Ukraine have already done, and mobilize the prison population (under promises of pardons and huge cash incentives of course)?
I was just looking into it, and I roughly calculate 75K prisoners aged 18-40 in the federal system alone. Those people are broadly hated by society, they don't even have the vote and so have no real political representation. And yet what sort of political mountains would have to be moved in Washington to get them into uniform fighting for Blackwater Inc. or whatever it's called now?
It's just not going to happen.
The counter cultural revolutions of the 60s and 70s shut down the draft. The regime moved to a fully professional and partially privatized military. Mass military mobilization requires broad popular support as it is literally the citizenry armed, equipped and on the move.
The regime is now even LESS popular than it was in the 1960s. Mass military mobilization is not going to happen in the USA or any other NATO country under any conditions short of a civil war, of which mass mobilization would be both cause and effect.
Europeans like being slaves.
Some Europeans do; not all. It's a big place.
The rulers can safely ignore folks like us.
You keep being deliberately obtuse about a NATO army. That's a strawman argument, so drop it, ok? The respective armies of European countries comprise NATO military, as usual. As for the rest of your questions, see below...
https://open.substack.com/pub/simplicius76/p/grave-nation-ukrainian-cemetery-mega?r=rdukr&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=138298929
But Eric, NATO has a single command structure, so talking about a NATO army is entirely appropriate. Napoleon 's Grand Armee had troops from about 20 countries in it, was that not a single force? What about Eisenhower's army in 1944?, and particularly the British element? Troops from dozens of countries.
You don't know what a "Straw man argument" is do you?
You're simply wrong, your example of Covid doesn't fly. It was passive compliance, we had to do nothing except stay at home and marvel at the death rate in the USA. A better example is the Poll tax riots, that you ignore, because you have no answer for it.
Every single European commentator has disagreed with you, but plough on confident in your ignorance.
Very wise Eric!
You are seriously wrong if you think that any Western leader has anything like a button on their desk labeled "Mobilize the Population" which if pressed will create anything like a useful army in any time frame less than a full generation.
Over the last 40+ years the whole population of the West, but young men most especially have become weak, obese, drug-addicted, passive and demoralized (you mentioned all that yourself). There is no propaganda switch that can be flipped that can make them strong, fit, healthy and motivated.
This would apply to all the ranks. Where are the clever and bold 19-22 year old second Lieutenants or the 30-35 year old tough and grizzled Sergeants coming from?
How far up the ranks of our current elite class would you have to go before you found a person both able and willing to do a risky stakes death or glory charge right into the Russian guns?
Such a person would be 1 in 10,000 today.
You are over playing the strengths of the regime's propagandist, they are strong but they're still only illusionists. When flesh meets steel, it's the flesh that loses, manipulating media algorithms can't change that.
Bang on. Passive compliance is not going to get you anywhere when it comes to making an army. Unwilling, demotivated young men - half of them ethnic aliens - will be hopeless material for training, worse than useless, a waste of wages, rations and time. Provide them with arms and live ammo and they will be a far greater threat to their own regimes than to Russia.
This talk of conscription is just talk - Starmer & Co trying to sound tough, trying desperately to conceal their ruined states’ economic and military impotence and societal decomposition. As a case in point, one-third of UK armed forces accommodation is now being used to house the latest self-inflicted wave of Afghan refugees.
Well exactly, the sort of people who are the most keen to join the military, be organized into units and train with serious weapons are also exactly the last people that the regime wants organized into units and trained with serious weapons.
It's worth noting that the most extremist Ukrainian paramilitary units, which have now graduated into full battalions (Azov et al.) started off as cliques of rowdy heavies within football clubs, the "Ultras".
In a U.K. context that would be London gaining both a Millwall and a West Ham United battalion and Edinburgh getting both a Rangers and Celtic battalion.
Fun times for both Westminster and Hollyrood even before they have to deal with The Battalion of the Martyrs of the Prophet (Blessings be upon him).
All of which is a real shame, in a natural human community it should be the sports clubs and faith communities that encourage the youngsters to stand up, work hard and even fight for their nation. That's the way it was for my grandfathers but they and their generation are now long gone.
You’re absolutely right, particularly on the Millwall Light Infantry and West Ham Fusiliers. The Leeds Utd Regiment would also be quite a formidable firm. Likewise Rangers and Celtic battalions, which would be quite likely to form a tactical alliance on the streets against the hated regimes at Holyrood and Westminster, just as the nationalist and unionist communities have done against mass immigration in Northern Ireland. They are, however, both Glasgow clubs. In Edinburgh, the rival RC and Protestant clubs are, of course, Hibernian and Heart of Midlothian.
"How far up the ranks of our current elite class would you have to go before you found a person both able and willing to do a risky stakes death or glory charge right into the Russian guns?"
I was in Whole Foods in my Midwestern city yesterday. One of the employees was moping around and was probably 75 lbs overweight. Early 20's and likely a him/he/his. Half his long hair was orange and the other half was yellow. A real freak show on wheels for the shoppers. Imagining this whichever toting a gun is beyond laughable. Possibly a fly swatter? This is standard retail weirdness now. I think the Russians can sleep comfortably tonight. The empire slouches into the wilderness...
Maybe he is good at sitting in a chair flying FPV drones all day? War is changing and maybe you can now employ thousands of these chubby kids with x-box controllers, hot pockets and gamified battlefields to send 1000's of drones at your enemy.
The thought of pinning a medal on this whole foods kid seems plausible now in this new great age of warfare. He can brag years later while collecting veteran benefits of how he kicked ass.
Hey Eric F
Recently I've been spending many months in Germany. There is seething anger under the passive surface. After all, the only resistance to war mongering is coming from the extremes of Left and Right.
Trying to gin up a war with Russia and then conscripting young people to fight such a war will lead to massive resistance and political explosion. That's exacerbated by rapidly a collapsing economy. Budget cuts are really biting in Germany and getting worse. The continued outrage against Open Borders mass migration only intensifies as it affects daily life. People will tolerate only so much before blind rage takes over.
Media psy-ops do take their toll... agreed; but it's not quite up to Third Reich standards. At the end of the day, no matter how intense the brainwashing is, you can't serve chicken manure and call it chicken salad. No amount of brainwashing makes that work.
And for all the big talk, I doubt the juntas in Paris, Berlin and London will, when it comes down to it, place small arms in the hands of their young male citizenry, whether immigrant or native. Each dislikes the other and despises the State. You’d get a host of shootings, multiple mutinies and then, outright rebellion and civil war. In 2020s Yookay, at least, it is a complete non-starter (unless Starmer & Co want to end up hanging upside down from a lamppost like Mussolini).
So what if they are unpopular? Their orders still are carried out.
Good old Feral. Optimistic to the last!
Try addressing substance. Focusing on tone merely is confirmation that I am fundamentally correct.
I don't know the American society enough to make a prediction, but any attempt at mobilisation in Europe would result in revolution in many countries.
Luis. Sensible answer. I agree completely.
Now Eric will tell us how he knows Europe better than we do, because we only live here and he's got the Internet.
Nope, there is no taste in western Europe for neck risking direct war with Russia, just all this holla'ing from the fence and lobbing in of missiles etc from a safe (!) arms's length.
That does not mean it will not find itself with a bombed out crater where a city used to be if it continues to test Russian patience, just that Russia does not need to go here to get what it needs out of this war with f.Ukraine. Not so far. But hell, if the west really wants to go down fighting that is at least a noble warrior's defeat.
That fact alone almost certainly rules it out.
The western people despise their leaders and will not be willing to die for them. And said leaders know this.
Keeping a population servile, drugged and indolent is one thing. Getting them off their beds and into a trench quite another, as even Ukraine is finding out.
Sorry, but it will necessary to recruit enthusiastic war fighters. The war will not be solely fought behind screens and keyboards, someone will have to storm the trenches, clean out buildings room by room with grenades and bayonets.
Even if part of the war will be fought with keyboard cyber warriors, the party that has those PLUS real old school hot-lead and cold-steel warriors will take the victory.
Even if it could be all done by press gangs of police officers, national guardsmen and court bailiffs picking up men and throwing them in vans to be taken to boot camp, then you would need huge amounts of enthusiastic men to do THAT.
The men in those press gangs would have their sons, brothers, cousins and finally also themselves on the lists to be rounded up and sent to the front.
Or will it be exclusively White, Christian, out-of-town men sent to press-gang the Black, Muslim, local neighborhood guys and vice-versa?
That sounds like a perfect recipe for mass rioting and eventual civil war.
Those press-ganged Ukrainian boys are not leading their country to victory. Reluctant soldiers can never replace highly-motivated, well trained patriots.
We are willing to let Ukrainians die in their thousands, but that doesn't mean we're happy to let hundreds of our lads be slaughtered.
No one really talks about Ukraine any more because, tragically, we don't care.
Quite.
"We are willing to let Ukrainians die in their thousands, but that doesn't mean we're happy to let hundreds of our lads be slaughtered."
Cf...I was at a birthday party years ago for a mate from middle school. At the end of the meal he casually brought out his AK-47. Then the shooting commenced. This was on a very rural farm so only the unlucky coon hunter might get shot, traversing the wooded area behind the house. This was all done with the casualness of handing out party favors. Naturally, there were children in the audience.
The point being that people around the world know we are over burdened with guns in the USA! BUT, they don't really grok the magnitude of this reality. In my city, someone dies by gunfire every single day.
TLDR: expect some serious armed push back when the press gang monkeys show up to kidnap the populace. There will be blood...
"EU UK have been content to throw Ukraine bodies into the war incinerator for 3.3 years unabated" - this is why it's good people like Orbán, Fico or Babiš exist. This all can be stopped if people in central Europe realize they don't want to be fed to the grinder next. Let Baltic chihuahuas do it if they really wish so, but don't join them.
The West will remain dominant, like it or not, for the foreseeable future.
You can't just wish it away on an emotion, dear.
'Dominant' Denis? floating on its sea of made up money?
The west as a whole has a small problem of scarce real wealth to back up its debt and indeed do anything much going forward including manufacturing arms..... which is why this attack on Russia was launched in the first place.
Of course, the West wants to steal Russia's wealth.
Our standard of living is multiples ahead of Russia until it isn't.
By then we'll all be living under the restrictions of a One World Order. (Russia included) Enjoy it while it lasts, right?
*sigh* Take a look at Treasury yields. They signal nothing like what you are talking about.
So what do you know that the largest, most liquid, most sophisticated securities market in history does not?
Dominant? Really?
Our standards of living remain among the best in the world.
That will change, so enjoy while it lasts.
Life is great.
Have you looked around lately at Western cities - crime-infested, resource-strained, vast areas of extreme poverty and homelessness? How many young people can afford their own home now? Standards are falling rapidly. And whilst the West is still very wealthy, the wealth divide is increasing, the middle class disappearing, and most of that wealth is leveraged debt and financialisation whereas the rest of the world is leveraging their resources and growing the real economy, freeing itself from the bonds of colonialism that has always supported our standard of living and are now raising their standards - dramatically in some cases.
Standards are still relatively high. By the time our standards drop, the New World Order will be ushered in, and almost everyone will be screwed. In my community, the average income is ten times higher than in Russia. The east has a long way to go to match us.
What's with the belittling "dear" dear?
It just shows how your mind thinks.
Actually, it shows how YOUR mind thinks.
Genius work here, Nigs. lol
Denis. At first slowly, then all at once.
Do you honestly not see it?
I've seen it from the beginning, John.
Russia was never going to lose this conflict.
If slowly, then all at once works, great.
All I'm saying is leaving Ukraine intact will cause further problems down the line.
Russia could perhaps have lost the conflict if it's economy was as weak as the West thought,if China and India didn't exist and if Western weapons were as wonderful as advertised.
Neither NATO nor Russia "have the guts" for entering a total war against each other. Thanks the Allmighty, I would add.
A war could happen because of miscalculation.
I might rattle my sabre, but no one is genuinely contemplating a war against an opponent who has hundreds of hypersonic missiles against which I have literally no adequate defence.
The other thing to throw into the mix is that NATO relies heavily in air power but we are at a point in the cycle where SAMs appear to be in the ascendant. That's a huge issue for NATO.
Even if they are stupid enough to want to fight Russia in 2025, they can't.
If there is a nuclear exchange the result would be indifferent to everyone in the countries that take part in the war.
They will pivot to widespread terrorism by proxies. It won't change the end result though.
Wasn't there talk that the UK would supply Ukraine with a few little nukies?
The UK nukes are actually under the control of the Americans as they essentially "rent" the technology.
Thanks for that info, I had no idea.
I heard that as well, that a British general or Lt. Col. suggested it at the Odessa Security Forum.
Doubt it Gisela. Even if we could, which I doubt, we wouldn't.
The idea of going strategically nuclear keeps getting floated during Rand Corporation meetings. I think the reference was made in regards to a conflict with China though, where the odds of an American 'win' are doubtful.
US is shipping nukes to the UK as we speak.
They already did...
100% right.
The western strategy has always been the weaponisation of ignorant through information warfare.
All good “things” in good time. Following. Between the North 40, and the Big Open, time has evaporated. With the harvest in process, not much free…”time”. You’re my pal; I thank you kindly for your astute prose. For the love of the Mother.Father Land💙🇷🇺❤️🐈⬛
Great insight on the previous wars. Not sure I would call Iraq in the same category as WW1. Iraq part 1 lost how many people?
IG Farben have got some form for that.
Iraq even used poison gas quite extensively. Iraq 500,000 casualties, Iran 1-2 million. Not a small war.
Yes, the excuse my government used to invade Irag was that Sadam was unstable and had chemical weapons.
The fact is Saddam was unstable but we installed him and goaded him into attacking Iran. Using chemical weapons made in Germany that we paid for.
In my opinion, the party that pays for the chemical weapon is the one responsible for its' use. Like hiring a hit man to eliminate the ex wife.
On the topic of some lurid western threats against Kalingrad, Russia does not escalate beyond what is necessary according to the realities on the ground. A NATO upscale in provocations of this order will prompt decisive strikes against the Baltic nations. This is not revenge so much as what is necessary to rescue Kalingrad. If the west continues down this path of risking its own far limbs in order to sound 'strong' it will find itself the dismembered one.
Then the bellicose little fascists on the periphery will discover just what NATO support really means. Bye bye Estonia. Your day in your ludicrously bigged up sun is coming an to an end.
More importantly, Poland knows it is dispensable in this reckless testing of Russia, too.
FAFO, as they say.
Wouldn't a NATO upscale in provocation necessitate that Russia takes out Ukraine before it gets reinforced, dear?
Ukraine has been taken out, pal. It is a brain dead body on imminently to be exhausted external life support.
Don't be deceived by how long it takes for the light of a dead star to hit western eyeballs.
You reacted with over-emotion and illogic. Ukraine still stands, dear.
I said a long time ago this war was over.
"Don't be deceived by how long it takes for the light of a dead star to hit western eyeballs."
Enjoy a +10 Julianne...you're writing poetry right here.
No. The russian forces in Ukraine / SMO zone, are enough to deal with the nazis and continue the attrition. Russia has at least two reserve armies ready for any NATO provocation, which will deal with the baltics fairly easy since NATO has no way to pump the baltics with as many weapons as it once did Ukraine. Also the baltics are quite tiny, not the giant country Ukraine is. If NATO goes this route, their defeat will be even greater and only dumb idiots (aka europeans) will continue in it.
Another reason it was stupid to bring the Baltic chihuahuas into NATO, they're indefensible.
Well, I think the logic is the same as with other extremist countries. The Baltic are dispensable anti-russian extremists and can easily be turned into another proxy against Russia. No country in NATO will move a finger to protect the Baltics.
I think you are comiting the mistake of evaluating NATO leadership as if they were rational actors. 🤔😉
The Baltics have been in the organization for years and have NATO troops there years round. There would be war. I don't believe they would push it to the nuclear threshold, no one is that crazy, but there it is.
Nothing in the last decades convinces me we are dealing with a rational political system. Wish I was wrong, btw. 🧐🤪🤬
Oh I agree. When I said "logic" I meant it in the world of psychopathic egocentric fascist incompetent people e.g. USA / European Union / NATO. To them doing provocations against the largest nuclear power in the world - Russia - makes perfect sense and is justified to just throw disposable meat at it, such as Ukraine, the baltics, etc
And given this, I also have no doubts that if there's anyone crazy to start a nuclear war, those are the USA / European Union / NATO people.
Rosgvardia could deal with the Baltics unassisted. In fact, you could probably do it with the St Petersburg Police.
I believe it, even more so at this time when NATO can't supply anything to anyone, in worthwhile quantities.
Yep, create a path through Lithuania with missiles and drones, and access is created through Belarus.
You might even conclude that Russia is just waiting for the enemy to make this great mistake. It is like Kalingrad is sitting there as a temptation to which the west is aching- against its own faltering best judgement- to succumb.
and although I should not say this, it cannot come a moment too soon.
I just hope those inhabitants of these countries who still secretly serve the old gods, remember to paint the secret sign on their lintels so that the angel of death passes over their houses.
They will fight on forever, regardless. The last Lithuanian WWII partisan fighting Russia wasn't killed until 1973..
What fun that would be and then watch as the Russian government confiscates the Kallas family's ill gotten gains.
If Russia wanted a reason to fight then it would fight and find a reason later. For that matter, NATO already has given more than enough provocation.
Jullianne. I'm not sure. Poland's ability to over-estimate its importance to the West is almost infinite.
They are just addicted to that faulty logic.
Poland is like the dog that barks, but doesn't bite. The thousands of polish military killed in Ukraine should be enough to deter Poland from thinking of going all in.
The fact they already sent all their artillery is a good indication they haven't the slightest intention of getting stuck in. 👍
Yeah, it's just rhetoric. Besides, Poland will not enjoy the "gloves on" approach Russia is taking with ukrainians. If Poland does go all in as the next proxy of NATO, they will be removed from the map, without even an eye twitch.
It's impossible to understate the Polish hatred for Russia. See the old, Polish joke about the farmer and the genie of the lamp as an example.
Indeed. And it's even more impossible to understand their support of Ukraine, and those with precisely the same banderite ideology that butchered thousands of polish people during the second world war.
If there really were thousands of Polish military killed, where are the military cemeteries? Where are the mothers, wives, girlfriends demanding answers as to where Stasiek went, why nobody has heard from Wojtek in months? Where are the military hospitals jammed with wounded, where are the invalids, where are the prisoners paraded on Russian TV?
A few losses, sure. "Helicopter crash." "training accident". But thousands? I'd need to see receipts. Otherwise, it's the dog that didn't bark.
Even the Soviet Union could not conceal its losses in Afghanistan, and the Soviet Union had the KGB.
The problem with you, since you keep repeating the same, is that like USA and european people, you believe your own propaganda.
This is from 2022, when the casualties were still "low", but already in the hundreds which did raise eyebrows in Poland.
https://globaleuronews.com/2022/12/01/dziennik-polityczny-inglorious-end-hundreds-of-poles-killed-in-ukraine-to-be-buried-in-american-graves/
Now, there are thousands of polish nazis killed in Ukraine, many of which are from polish military, but of course "laundered" as "mercenaries", as all NATO soldiers killed in Ukraine are. And people in Poland did notice it. So just stop with your propaganda and actually inform yourself.
That you apparently were only able to find a fringe source to support your argument, and moreover, your source doesn't address my point- if there were thousands of Polish casualties, we'd see the things I describe.
We don't see those things, therefore the casualties are likely wishful thinking.
And if I were to show more, you would ignore those too. You need your bias to be confirmed and everything that doesn't, is ignored by you. I certainly don't care if you don't believe this is happening. Reality doesn't need your belief to be real. And as I mentioned, those things you described did happen in Poland, however with the increasing censorship across Europe, especially in countries that support the nazis in Ukraine, you won't get much more than this, because officially talking about thousands of dead NATO soldiers in Ukraine, would be quite a mess for the USA / european dictators. Not that the dumb european peoples would do anything about it. As I explained to you the last time you doubted these insane NATO casualties in the Ukraine war, most north americans and europeans that lost family members in the war in Ukraine, do believe the "training accident" or "sudden death" BS that they are given, because north americans and europeans overall, are dumb as bricks. Those that aren't, are censored, sanctioned, arrested, killed.
It would be the perfect scenario for the US if Russia attacks Europe. As the US could basically sit across the Atlantic fan the flames with the hope that European reconstruction would improve the US economy. It would be a repeat of WW2 making the US an economic super power.
No, it wouldn't!
Because with a war in Europe, all world trade would collapse. Hunger in Arab countries without Russian wheat would mean unrest and death. A lack of medicine would mean epidemics... in Africa, Brazil, and the USA, but the same applies because the USA isn't just dependent on medicines from India, for example, but without wheat from Russia, it wouldn't be able to produce medicines without oil and gas from Russia.
AND the USA also needs raw materials from outside to survive.
Without Russian uranium, about 47% of its energy production would be exhausted.
Of course, one could build up some things there if one had the time, which one doesn't have in this case.
The outbreak of war in Europe would mean that within hours, at most days, hardly anything would happen worldwide. ALL countries would impose export bans and bring back goods (oil, gas, coal) that were on their way.
The world population would halve within 3 to 5 years due to hunger, epidemics, civil war, and wars over resources.
Maybe?? Is that precisely the true goal, and it's now just a matter of who the villain is, so that they can then present themselves as such to the rest of the population! Is it the criminal USA, the evil Putin, or was it China? Someone has to be the culprit, otherwise it's impossible to present oneself as the new ruler.
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Always remember that the US or China will NOT automatically be the boss.
A halved world population needs someone to blame, a clear culprit, otherwise they'll look for someone in the chaos.
The global economy is a delicate, sensitive system... if Europe fails, it will drag everyone down with it, really everyone, because as Corona has shown, many countries were the first to ban ALL wheat exports... which just wasn't made public. Hungary, France, Poland, for example, passed corresponding laws.
What would happen would be an open war between Russia and NATO, and thus, whether Trump wants it or not, war in the US will also happen. Although Trump insists at EVERY opportunity, "IT WASN'T US." Counterattacks, please, in Warsaw, Berlin, Paris, or even London...has anyone noticed this yet?
Well said, Jurgen.
You nailed it ausgezeichnet!
How exactly is western Europe geographically central to global trade? Europe does not have a pacific coastline, Russia does and also access to the new Arctic trade routes with their icebreaker fleet. Also rail across the vast Russian land mass can easily bypass western Europe. Though Russia provides a large percentage of global grain supply, man does not live by grain alone. Africans do farm, they have soil, though they mayl need Russian fertilizer but their are other fertilizer producers. It is not world war 2 when the European colonies were obligated to fight for their colonial masters, the world has changed.
It does kind of sound like a WEF's wet dream of population decimation.
Intercontinental missiles are a mature technology today, not dreams in Dornberger's, Kammler's and Von Braun's heads. The US gets flattened like everybody. Except MAYBE China.
Well the greater concern would be submarine technology and submarine launched missiles. Submarines are the ultimate stealth technology that has made the geographic advantage of the US a great disadvantage during conflict. As the wide open approaches on the Pacific and Atlantic coasts of the US are basically wide open unlike Russia which is protected by choke points and ice.
Of course. The subs are the main carriers of the weapons, but the ground based systems are there, too.
It's lunacy and everybody knows it!
Yes but the Subs don't need to carry out nuclear attacks. How would the US retaliate or defend against, attacks by conventional Kalibr or Tzircon?
And there's the Oreshnicks waiting in the background. Shot from the Russian far East, they can make most of the West coast. 🤔😳💀
The sabre rattling against Kaliningrad is just a last ditch effort on the part of NATO to divert *any* part Russian forces they can away from the ongoing debacle in Ukraine. OTAN is hoping Russia will move forces into the city as a counter to the threat. It's a typically amateur and transparent effort.
Go back four years and carefully trace how many unthinkable things became reality and how most Western escalations started off as such "mere posturing" and then actually happened.
Everything that comes out of their mouths should be taken extremely seriously.
Seriously enough for pre-emptive neutralization strikes to be carried out. Which Medvedev openly talked about the other day, but it is not people who think the way that Medvedev talks making the decisions in the Kremlin...
LOL.
How many times are you going to suggest the Kremlin takes a course of action that benefits the USA, not Russia, before you realise how ignorant your ideas are?
For all the good they did for NATO and the EU, I would be very glad to be rid of the Baltic chihuahuas once and for all. I am from a small country, although one that is worth the 3 put together, so I tendo to solidarity with the small nations. These little worthless provocateurs do not deserve it, their only reason for existing is selling hatred.
The reality is slowly getting through, Ukraine is running out of men and material while Russia goes from strength to strength. The only question is how much bigger the cemeteries will need to get, and how many widows will be produced, before Ukraine accepts the warm embrace of Russia and freedom from Western abuse.
"Indeed, as we speak, Ukraine unfortunately seems to have lost the war, probably as early as the summer of 2023, when it became clear that its long-awaited counter-offensive had failed. One could imagine a spectacular turnaround, but it's not clear how. Of course, when you say this, people are shocked because it's unbearable to think that Ukraine has lost the war. It's unbearable for me too." -- Stéphane Audoin-Rouzeau
"OMG, it's too much to bear! I'm going to move to Canada!!"
Pardon my cynicism and sarcasm, but this is just plain silly and deserves to be ridiculed. To say that it is unbearable because Ukraine has lost means that you simply cannot cope with reality and you really ought to just crawl into a hole in the ground and pull a stone over it. Fact is, in America many people said exactly this when Trump won in 2016 and again in 2024, but so far as I know, they somehow found a way to get out from under their burden without leaving the States. Audoin-Rouzeau will likewise emerge from his self-imposed melodramatic misery and move on with his life.
"Unbearable" to him probably in reference to the number of dead soldiers. France started WW1 with c. 40 million inhabitants (same as Ukraine 2022) and suffered more than 1.5 million dead men during 1914-1918, a blow it never recovered from, even though no one fled the country. But at least it was among the winners of the war.
Your sarcasm is inappropriate.
He said nothing about dead soldiers. Instead, he said it was unbearable that Ukraine had lost the war. Would he be joyful if Russia was losing?
Partisan politics, in my opinion, no matter who gets hurt. All that matters is the winning.
SLEEPER INSIGHT-Big winner here is China. They have lots of excess capacity. Rebuilding Ukraine will soak up years, if not decades of that capacity. This will result in an ultra-modern, Russian assimilated oblasts in eastern Ukraine. Once things get rolling millions of Ukrainians will return, many to claim title to land. This will be a bonanza for Russia, China and the region.
Yep, shiny modern cities, high speed railways, high tech farming and other industrial infrastructure, and more.
And plenty of desperate single women available for Chinese men that otherwise have no hope of finding wives (due to the Chinese gender disparity, est at 80 million).
Interesting, we have a shortage of women in China but a surplus of women in Ukraine relative to men. Let's see how that turns out. lol
The Ukie chicks best get used to small noodles.....
You're bad, man. lol
@grr
I brought up this idea re: surplus Ukrainian women + surplus Chinese men during the eventual reconstruction after the first year or so of observing the Ukrainian meat grinder + everyone sane, young & male who could fleeing Ukraine.
And boy, did I ever get derided by people who supposedly knew all about Ukrainian women. To which one might reply that many were willing to marry old, fat rich dudes outside of Ukraine long before most of the military aged Ukrainian men were destroyed or fled?
Let the flames begin-
I appreciate your comment considering the eventual bright side of the ultimate outcome.
Most of the resources are in regions already, or soon to be under Russian control. Russia will rebuild these regions and the people return.
Whatever regions are left will be wastelands, just as what the EU leaders, and regrettably what our American elites are doing to our and their European countries.
It was always obvious to me that the most realistic comparison to the Russian - Ukrainian war was actually the US Civil War. The same disparity in manpower and industrial capacity and the same inevitable results. I don't see the Ukrainian military intact through the end of the summer or early fall. At some point the common foot soldier sees the futility of resistance and subconsciously decides not to be the last man slaughtered for a lost cause. That's not a slight on the individual soldiers courage, and they've done a lot with little, it's just reality.
Dick Minnis
removingthecataract.substack.com
I had thought we were going to reach that stage about 9 months ago. Well not so it seems. The absence of reliable data makes this prediction game tricky...
I have been saying this for years. Good observation.
We've been hearing this literally for years, but it never seems to happen.
I don't know what translator you're using, but "De nouveaux cimetieres militaires en projet dans toute l'Ukraine" means "New military cemeteries planned across (all of) Ukraine."
Secondly, that WW1 historian is an idiot. There was trench warfare in the Korean war, to say nothing of Dien Bien Phu in 1954.
As for the politics, I want nothing to do with it. I'm sick of millions of people's lives being decided by a handful of morons with ZERO mandate from the people.
Stéphane Audoin-Rouzeau was talking about "siege warfare, but fought in open country over hundreds of kilometers." That's continuous lines of interconnected fortifications facing off against each other and grinding each other down. Neither the Korean or various stages of the Vietnam war were like that.
Nah, Sam…dont be sour.
Korea War was pretty fluid until it entered the late stalement period. French War in Indochine cant be compared with this.
We had the Eighty Years War between the Dutch and Spain in 1557 - 1648. A grueling trench warfare going on and on between truces and sudden pauses. The frenchmen is right.
There are not many "military historians" left. The feminists hate it: celebrations of "toxic masculinity" or whatever. Most university presses will not publish "military history." Most universities have 1 or even 0 lines in military history, and they mostly hire women, who write dissertations about "Gender in Combat: How Doctrines of Military Readiness Affirm Existing Gender Boundaries," to fill these positions to prove how enlightened they are.
For 30-40 years, people outside of academia, amateur historians, have written all the serious (and readable) military history.
@Sam Ursu
"I'm sick of millions of people's lives being decided by a handful of morons with ZERO mandate from the people."
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If these rich bastards make you sick, maybe you need to cook them longer?
"As for the politics, I want nothing to do with it. I'm sick of millions of people's lives being decided by a handful of morons with ZERO mandate from the people."
Surely by now, you have figured out that democracy is basically a way to insulate the decision-makers from public opinion.
Few know of the interview US journalist George Seldes obtained with von Hindenburg just after 11 November 1918 and immediately censored by the US Government and not released and published by Seldes until his 1929 book "You Can't Print That!"--Chapter Two: "The US Infantry won the war"--Hindenburg. The book can be freely downloaded, although I have my own hard copy, here, https://archive.org/details/YouCantPrintThat/page/n11/mode/2up
It's the sort of thing every historian needs to read, and then there's the rest of the book and his other publications. The French historians clearly have never read the interview. IMO, if it had been published immediately or several weeks later, the entire "Stabbed in the back" narrative would never have gained any purchase. Hindenburg was forthright in his honesty that the added weight of the Americans combined with the blockade and increasing political turmoil made surrender the only honorable choice as opposed to killing another million or more soldiers, which is the choice NATO Nazis are making.
One last observation. This will be the last major war to use human infantry. What will come soon is robot infantry--look at the abilities of China's humanoid robots: they play football, perform martial arts and run marathons. Team Putin has a massive hard on when it comes to Russia's development of robotics--industrial and humanoid. Many trillions of rubles are being funneled by the state and private business into the project. Drones and such will still exist, but along the FEBA they won't be blowing humans apart. Rears areas will still be populated by human soldiers but will be very rare on the front lines.
>the added weight of the Americans combined with the blockade and increasing political turmoil made surrender the only honorable choice as opposed to killing another million or more soldiers, which is the choice NATO Nazis are making.
Very different situation now, as this is not a war between Ukraine and Russia.
The job of Ukrainians is to keep dying while NATO is getting prepared to fight Russia directly. Which is exactly what is happening now and what is to follow unless Russia pre-empts them.
I wrote an essay about NATO’s Capitulation at the end of 2024 that remains valid.
It is a fantasy to think that Russia's exports 'drive' Russia's war machine. This is due to a fundamental misunderstanding of economics and the role of money that has made the Western world in general an economic shambles. Countries make war with their resources, and they export in order to fairly exchange resources, eg, computer chips for oil. However, Russia is so self-sufficient that a cut in needed imports might be inconvenient, but would not stop function.
The other weird Lindsy Graham claim was that Putin needed to sell oil to China, et al, but the fact is that China, et al, need that oil. The best understanding of trade I have heard is Warren Mosler's idea that exports are gifts and trade is gift-exchange!
Lindsey Graham should be routed out and tossed in the gutter where he belongs.
Unfortunately he is Trumps' good golfing buddy and is in charge of our foreign policy. He has Trump eating from his palm like a loyal dog.
Trump is using tariffs, which have their place when wisely used in protecting essential industries, as weaponized sanctions.
Using sanctions and tariffs as weapons have resulted in the final stake to the heart of what little economy we have left.
Dog and master are going to hell.
We are ruled by complete inbred idiots, more ignorant and morally corrupted than the French noble class before their revolution.
Russia has the oil, gas, minerals, manufacturing capacity, geographical straddling of Eurasia, not dependant on vulnerable sea lanes (for trade to China for example) and the critical human capital.
No one mentions how important an educated work force is to a functioning economy.
In America we have a native born literacy rate of 74% and falling. The 40 million foreign immigrants our government paid the expenses to import are illiterate.
We do not have a large skilled labor force and the work ethic is all but gone.
We don't have a real economic base. Leveraging debt does not produce tangible items of value.
What exactly do we produce that other countries might need?
Our sacrosanct arms industry produces antiquated systems at exorbitant costs that are useless in practical terms.
The US dollar as a global trade standard is being ditched.
And Lindsay Graham advocates sanctioning China?
Well said!
>We are ruled by complete inbred idiots, more ignorant and morally corrupted than the French noble class before their revolution.
Inbred and morally corrupted they might be, but look at the last four years.
Who is advancing and who is retreating?
It is not them that is suffering one major geostrategic loss after another it is the Russians, Iranians and the Chinese. Meanwhile they are winning.
So it doesn't seem like they are all that incompetent to me given that they are winning massively right now, and doing so by very skillfully exploiting the weaknesses, split loyalties and corruption of their enemies.
The West is winning? Winning what exactly?
Is Macron's regime looking strong and healthy?
Are the Americans united in loyalty to their President and institutions?
Starmer? Prosecuting his own people for dissenting in social media.
The Buntesrepublik? Looking everyday more like a Stasirepublik.
China is losing? Losing what?
Even if the war in Ukraine would stop along the present lines, the corridor of land to Crimea
would represent a real victory.
1) The war is currently fought about 1000 km inside what is historically Russian territory
2) Syria was lost
3) There are US bases, soon with nukes too, in Finland
4) The US gave itself permission to begin attacking Iran, the same way it did with Syria a decade ago (and we know how that ended eventually) and suffered nothing for it.
5) Look at the map 40 years ago, compared it to now. How much does the empire control currently? There are less than a dozen countries resisting to various degrees -- Russia, Belarus, China, North Korea, Iran, Yemen, Venezuela, Cuba, perhaps a few others would potentially join (Nicaragua, Algeria, Eritrea, Laos, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, but not much more than that).
Everything else that was on the Soviet side in the 1980s has been either destroyed or taken over.
So yeah, who is winning?
The destruction of the Soviet Union is a different question. This war started in 2014 or 2022 and until now the West is nor winning at all.
If you want to take into account more general questions and go back that far in history, think about the economic data of China and the USA now and 40 years ago.
China is winning hands down.
"more ignorant and morally corrupted than the French noble class"
This is a very good analogy for rule in the West today, with Davos substituting for Versailles.
Yes, have to laugh!
I do wonder what they think China and India will do without oil from Russia. Is the west willing and able to sell them enough oil to replace Russian oil? Do thier civilians face hardship from reduced oil from the west? I guess this is why some folks consider sanctions an act of war. (I'll include that I don't know who those folks are - just a vague thought that I've heard it before)
The thought is that China and India will burn dollars or western debt as a substitute for Russian energy. Other than the faith in exchange, burning to produce heat is probably the next best use of paper money.
Correct, and Russia is nowhere remotely close to a everything-for-the-front-everything-for-victory mode, under which "the economy" ceases to be a concern whatsoever because it all goes back to Stalinism and central planning and the nice thing about those is that there are no economic crises under a planned economy (the USSR never had a "recession").
Russia still does have the option of doing that.
The problem is that the reason why it hasn't been done is the precise same reason the war is being so catastrophically lost so far (domestic politics having to do with preserving the post-Soviet socio-economic order), and I don't see that changing. These people already gave away half their country in order to establish the current system, they will gladly break up what remains rather than jeopardize it for the sake of winning in Ukraine.
Much as I am thankful Russia is winning, the loss of over a million Young Ukrainian lives is a terrible tragedy, and the fact that the USA couldn’t give a toss, makes me ill.
Nor coukd Ukraines & Europes "leaders".
Very true, All scumbags.
It's all the accompanying stuff too Catherine. Millions of their youngest and brightest have fled, unlikely to return. They've no money and any assets they had appear to have been snaffled by the likes of Blackrock. If and when Odessa is taken, imo, it's game over, the belligerent Western Elites will focus their attempts to take Russia to somewhere else, in fact I think that has already started in the Caucasus and Baltic regions. Sad, sad, sad.
And that many bodies are burned to avoid payment to families. And that families are often forced onto signing waivers on war reparations before receiving the bodies for burial.
This is a sick country, led by depraved people in cahoots with pure evil across the West.
Why do you want that US( and UE) would give a shit of life of one or two millions "snow niggers"?
Ukrainians chose to be the servile west attack dogs. They are.
Snow niggers? Sounds like a Canadian thing. lol
Never heard of the term aside from snowbilly, which I invented to mean a Canadian hillbilly.
For US rulers:
Niggers: Africa+south Asia
Sand Niggers: all central and west Asia
Snow niggers: all Slavs: Russia, Balts, Poland, Ukraine, Czech, Slovaks, Croats, Serbs, Slovens, ect..
Little bitch: Western Europe, Japan, South Korea.
Sorry, I forgot one:
Israël. Them, it's "Master"
lol
You forgot Australia and New Zealand - woke niggers
Ho apologies
No, no, them , it's Toilet Paper.
Someone was reading The Saker.
Most of those folk would have been happy with the Minsk Accords. Most never wanted Maidan.
It is an entirely avoidable tragedy.
All neocon wars are avoidable.
The older I get, the more it feels like all wars are avoidable. As much as U.S. citizens opposed the Vietnam War, it seems like the most defensible to me as far as reason. There really was an irreconcilable clash between Marxism and liberal democracy, and Vietnam really was a country that the Marxists were attempting to pull into their sphere.
All the rest in the past century and then some seem to me to be over money, and a desire of Jewish people to obtain the land of Israel (and subsequently dominate the Middle East a.k.a. "neocons").
I'm not particularly knowledgeable about all of the wars of the European middle ages, but they seem like mostly personal grudge fests. And Roman wars were about profits - to the general who fought it, and to the soldiers whose loyalty the general bought.
@Married With Bears
https://www.nefp.online/_files/ugd/63d11a_136d0855070647ba803e05cea0bc4c83.pdf
Nope, ideology in the various US wars since WWII was only a motivation for the cannon fodder and a fig leaf for politicians. Vietnam/SE Asia was one of the first natural resource control wars and was recognized as such by US/vassal leadership in private, the US/Western need for control of world resources and their extraction (along with preventing industrialization and use of those resources in the countries which merely possessed them) was openly written about in Ford Foundation financed "think tank" studies carried out by RAND Corp. et alia during the 1950s and put into action across the world by the 1960s, which programs are faltering a bit only recently.
Liberal democracy has turned out to be a hollow brass cymbal. I won't comment on Marxism as I'm not an expert.
So what? They got it anyway.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s an obscenity. The western and Banderite politicians responsible for this, their puppeteers at Davos and in the intelligence agencies and the propagandist lackeys in the MSM and ‘think tanks’ should face a Nuremberg Trials for this, with sentences to match.
Those trials were a sham. We need actual accountability, but I'm afraid that will never come.
The justice was somewhat selective in its application. I mean a Nuremberg, of course, in figurative terms.
Russia is not winning, and it is precisely because a million Ukrainians died (one people, who wrote that in the summer of 2021?), among many other reasons.
All completely unnecessary had that same person not allowed his bluffs to be called in such a way
Probably at least half of those lost lives weren't young. It's a destruction of an entire gender, save the youngest cohort.
Throw in the genocide in Gaza that the U.S. is bankrolling. Should make you sick. Don't worry though the Orange man is going to drain the swamp, toss out the warmongers and "deep state," and usher in an age of peace.
Hopefully the next people the US lies to will learn the lesson of Ukraine.
You're entirely correct.......
and if anyone is interested -
you can confirm this whole process from my Limbraw Library - https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/07/wayne-lusvardi/how-all-roads-lead-to-london/ - this summary by Wayne Lusvardi wraps it up pretty well. Just translate the city of London to DaSynagogue of Satan - https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/search?q=Synagogue+of+Satan+&m=1 - a list of headnotes to articles by various authors who home in to the ways and means how the undermining of Western Civilization has been accomplished.
Takes some reading time - but it took me longer to accumulate - have at it.
The loss of "over a million" young Ukrainians is the point. To the men behind the curtains, the sacrifice of the innocence of an entire nation is the goal: its young men--the future, it's old men--the memory, its women sold into economic slavery and (even better!) prostitution, its children ripped from the protective cocoon of their parents to be better programmed and abused, and all throughout the black butchers of organ harvests at work.
Ukraine isn't being murdered, it's being sacrificed to moloch. And nothing gets results in the occult world better than the sacrifice of innocence, except the mass sacrifice of innocents.
The men behind the curtains will accept nothing less than mastery of the world for their efforts. Until then, the ritual will continue.
Those who wage War should shoulder part of moral responsibility of addressing its horrible consequences !!!!
The US feeds on Death & Destruction.
Any source for a million casualties?
Any source for a million casualties?
Plenty
Yes.
Documents obits etc.
Facts on Simplicious
Russia has been holding off, but they're going to have to cut the head off the Ukulele snake and turn Kiev into a pile of rubble for this to have any chance of ending. If the US/NATO puppet masters no longer have any Ukulele puppets, this thing finally ends.
Cutting off military hardware, food supplies and maybe even water from Kiev I see as a more likely scenario at the end.
Well said, Chucky. That's been my main theme all along.
Kiev is not the heart of Bandera land, that lies further West, in Galicia, and head of this particular snake is even further West, IN the West. Turning Kiev into rubble would not improve anything, but WOULD *prove* to those equivocating in NATO, that Russia IS a danger.