Ever-addicted to the adrenaline rush of the escalatory ladder, Trump has outdone himself again this morn with the most brazen “presidential address” thus far:
Bro they're flying special forces in by the hundreds in and out of Iran. They're now in Islamabad talking. Its over. IF they were serious they would have kept channels closed for a year or until Trumps presidency failed.
Recognize that Iran lost. But hey I guess if Syria falling to Al-Qaeda is a victory in your eyes then nothing looks like defeat, am I right?
Um... The US is THE main enemy of Russia. That's why we worked so diligently since the end of WWII to get ready for this proxy Ukraine war. If I were Russia and had the ability to start an all-out nuclear holocaust, I think I'd do a bit of tiptoeing too. And would recommend that to others who might express impatience.
The latest rescue of the pilot costs the US according to some insiders 12 to 15 airplanes, little birds included now a B52 is there any greater invitation to get it down, tell me. The Baltics opening their airspace for launching Ukraine missiles, they are playing open door or is it a red flag on a bull, in this case a bear. What else is there to invite Russia extending their peace pact with financial, economic and military Europe.
Pls note that the average person is focused on the paper price of oil.. the actual deliveries are priced way way higher.. and never properly reported in the press.
Retired Engineer here. That's been my life's experience as well. The grand thinkers are simply unable to think through the logistics of the plan and so the build out is impossible without lots of tweaking, changes, and compromise... Chip
This is true. As a corporate computer programmer, I'd see upper management make grandiose short-term promises to companies we were merging with that were insane in terms of the time and money required to keep the company from crash-and-burning because of those stupid and effectively worthless 'offers.'
Right!... At first I thought Simplicius was doing satire. A grand thinker, com'on. He is also a slave to Jewish backers money his whole life, most recently Miriam Adelson.
Like many other geopolitical players Iran is waiting until after the Republicans get decimated this November, and he is a lame duck.
I really truly wish that people would at some point realise that Trump is not a slave to Jewish interests and is somehow being controlled by zionists. He is no slave. He is a co-conspirator. He loves israel and its cause.
He does what he does and says what he says not because he is a slave, but because he is a committed zionist.
What you say is true, but it is bigger than that. Trump has been a committed zionist for most of his life and his family are zionists. He has hated Iran for decades because like most zionists, he believes that Iran is the biggest obstacle to Greater Israel. Some rabbis over the years have even considered him to be this generation's Gentile Messiah.
Nope. It's all the same dog. And it's such obvious "good cop-bad cop" bullshit that even supposedly intelligent people on sites like this still fall for it every time it's trotted out.
He is indeed indebted to Miriam Adelson and will do what she wants. That is not the point I was making. The point being that zionists were responsible for putting him in office, giving him funds and running his election, giving him media support. And though once elected, he follows through with their wishes, he does so as a committed "one of them" - it's something he would have done anyway had he been elected on his own, no force needed.
What he didn't want, however, was to follow Bibi's orders because he despises him. But I believe Bibi blackmailed him - Trump does not want to be exposed for the pervert he is - and Bibi has all that in his hands.
Oh, it TOTALLY is. Good thing you brought it up. Being a zionist (not a top-level one who actually knows that it's a ruse) requires being DumberThanDirt. And as much as people want to believe Trump's clowinishness is real, my money's on the fact that you can't be a tycoon and a complete dolt at the same time.
He is a grand or grandiose thinker to be more precise but he's shite on the follow through. Grand isn't always a positive thing like hubris it has brought many down but follow through and commitment is. And that's lacking in Trump cause all his grand failures are cushioned by money and that makes for soft not fatal crash landings.
Recall that the Biden Admin did little new to support Israel, except to not object to the cleansing of Gaza. Even with Blinken/Nuland running foreign policy.
Most of the uni-party in Congress receive some support from AIPAC. AIPAC are more moderate Zionists.
The IAC (Israel America Council) are hard-core neocon Zionists. The Adelsons founded it because AIPAC was too "liberal-left" leaning. It was IAC supporters that funded Trump with big money. We are seeing the consequences.
That’s interesting, didn’t know that. But as we’ve seen it it’s politically very hard for the democrats to end a war because they don’t want to appear weak, remember it took until the Biden administration to get us out of Afghanistan! I am moderately hopeful that this can stop now because the alternative would be horrible
It's likely that the only reason we finally left Afghanistan is because the poppy fields had a bad year or something. Or maybe we allowed Al Qaeda to take over in exchange for some small percentage of the heroin profits.
It’s the Taliban in Afghanistan innit. Small percentage? I don’t think so. They’re supposed to have gotten rid of the opium farms but probably not.. at least not completely. But I hear from people familiar with the situation that the amount and quality of heroin on the street definitely went through a dry spell. One reason why fetty became such a big problem. Heroin is coming back, guessing Laos, Burma, Mexico etc picked up the slack.
It’s the Taliban in Afghanistan innit. Small percentage? I don’t think so. They’re supposed to have gotten rid of the opium farms but probably not.. at least not completely. But I hear from people familiar with the situation that the amount and quality of heroin on the street definitely went through a dry spell. One reason why fetty became such a big problem. But it is coming back, guessing Laos, Burma, Mexico etc picked up the slack.
Interesting info, thank you. Although saying that "not objecting" to that horrific genocide was no big deal for a president... not to mention calling it "cleansing..." Geez, dude~
"There are no precedents for canceling or postponing federal congressional elections in the United States, even during times of severe national crisis such as the Civil War, World Wars, or the COVID-19 pandemic.
Historical Record: Elections have been held on schedule since 1845, including during the Civil War when Abraham Lincoln was reelected in 1864 while the nation was in active rebellion, and during World War I and World War II.
Legal Authority: Neither the Constitution nor federal statutes grant the President or the executive branch the power to cancel or reschedule elections; only Congress has the authority to change election dates through legislation."
Recent history (2020) indicates the Democrats are more effective cheaters than Republicans. How is Trump's Save Act doing in the Senate?
It seems that you are falling to understand that this is not a traditional type of “administration.” We are dealing with a dictatorial regime that has absolutely no concern for the law or Constitution. Trump has consistently violated both with impunity.
He lacks impulse control which is why he never attained any public office other than the Presidency. Any other office would have filtered out.
He was selected as a TV personality to sucker in voting fodder. A weak Vice President whose life was shaped by a PayPal millionaire was an appendage. Reagan was tied to organised crime through Screen Actors Guild and Trump was Mob connected through Roy Cohn - to both Kosher Nostra and the Pasta eaters
Unfortunately the Epstein class existed before modern Israel, and its destruction will not be the end of them. This isn't over until the world turns to Jesus Christ who spent his life pointing out the evil of their ways and showing us what we need to do to save ourselves and stop them.
Is there any particular instance which you find troublesome?
And are you sure you are not confusing evil with just? Punishment is a legitimate response to sin, especially an unrepentant sinner. People in general did not traditionally find God's behavior evil - and they understood that good and evil are absolutes and mercy is the bestower's to grant when it is deserved, and if it were universally granted that itself would be condoning evil.
The way Russia has conducted its SMO has been a complete disappointment
It all started with a poorly planned offensive, having failed to adequately soften AFU defenses with a bombing campaign. The army advanced in parade formation against well-entrenched enemy positions and were getting destroyed so fast that they had to retreat in haste, leaving war material behind. 10 years to prepare and plan, a few days before the full retreat. Heading into 5 years, not much has changed besides static WW1 positional and never-ending attritional warfare costing more in dead soldiers, destroyed weapons, economic setbacks and war fatigue from the general population. Russians can't even complain about the SMO or run the risk of imprisonment.
What's with taking away citizens' internet use and only allowing certain apps? Police are pulling citizens over to check their phones for illegal usage of certain apps. This has caused quite a stir among the population. Con't
And what about Ukraine having the luxury of supplying the Middle East countries with drones and trainers? How can Russia allow Ukraine's drone production to continue to mass produce without bombing those sites into oblivion? Are you kidding me? Drone production sites should be priority one for demolition, yet Russia has allowed Ukraine to increase production to the point of excess and sell them to Iran's enemy.
And what about Russia's refining plants and ships getting continually attacked? These attacks are seldom discussed, but they are significant. Russian losses from these attacks are in the billions and counting. Russia's soft stance continues to fuel attacks on its vital oil industry without repercussions. Really? It never had to be this way, but by failing to neutralize Ukraine's AFU forces, things just keep getting worse.
And what about Russia knocking out command and control centers, taking out Zelensky and friends? Look at what the US and Israel did to Iran on the first day. They liquidated most of the leadership and top generals on day one, gone. Who was the last army general or political leader of Ukraine to be taken out in the past 4 and a half years? They're not even afraid to expose themselves because Russia won't hit them.
And what about Russia making a stand in support of Iran besides rhetoric? Why didn't Russia say that war with Iran is a war against Russia? Would the US and Israhell have attacked under those conditions. Not a chance in hell.
I know the excuses are coming. lol, but that's all they are. Excuses. Nearly 5 years of excuses and they just keep piling up year after year.
Even the Russian citizenship has had it with this poorly planned and thought-out SMO.
Russian citizens are sick of Putin's SMO turned into a never-ending war.
Putin is gone next election. He's done like dinner, just like Trump. They make a good pair. That's why they get along so good.
Maybe that's why citizens are threatened with jail for criticizing the SMO and Putin's handling of it. They see the writing on the wall, but they can't openly complain like all the other generals who were jailed for speaking out. It's called censorship to enable the bullshit lies the Kremlin keeps feeding its public.
My best wishes go out to the true Russian patriots who stand for their country and not just enrichen themselves like the Kremlin oligarchs. (same as the US oligarchs) 😂
I'm curious, what do concern trolls do after the war, is there a good retirement plan? Did you put enough away or will you need to find a new conflict?
Trump desperately wants a way out - there is only ONE way out - allow the destruction of israel, because no matter what kind of deal is reached with Iran, israel will continue to destroy it. And this goes for Iran as well - destroy israel or continue to face eternal conflicts and sanctions. And this goes for the rest of the world - allow israel to be destroyed or it will face continual wars and economic disruptions.
That is correct and Iran clearly knows that, but it is Iran that looks good here to the world in accepting this ceasefire and USrael looks bad because the world knows they will renege as well.
Zionists like Trump and Zelensky know only how to start wars but they never want to stop them. That would not be profitable and against tribal rules. This two weak peace is an illusion.
"You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. - Marcus Eli Ravage, Jewish author, quote from January 1928 issue of Century Magazine
"We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will for ever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build."- Maurice Samuels, Jewish author, quote from You Gentiles
Right. But it's a bit more complex than that. Zionism and the israeli entity are tools set up to eventuate teh control of the world by certain old banking families centred in the City of London. Zionism and israel is then kept alive by infiltrating the American establishment with zionists at all levels of government, business, academia, media and military using a vast and pervasive lobbying network coupled with an massive perversion of the powerful American Christian establishment with zionist ideals (they started by financing the perversion of scriptures through the Schofield Bible in the early 19th century creating dispensationalism). Thus israeli and zionist project is protected by the USA and the USA is held to the "true" path by the above-mentioned internal influences.
Was Meyer Lansky a mafiso criminal because he was Jewish or because he was a criminal? The same is so for billionaires or bankers. It seems to me you worship Jews!
Sorry, but your post is silly and misses the point entirely. Zionism is a serious eschatology that has more to do with end times than material considerations. Our problem is that it kills and steals to achieve that goal in the material world. This is so for both Christian and Jewish Zionists.
“To retain its military power and reserve currency the US needs leverage to force China to provide it with rare earth minerals, and the US intends to use Iran’s oil as that leverage.“?
I think Israel, through its' wealthy donors and dirt on key individuals in the kleptocrat class from Epsteins' schemes has undo influence on its' host. But, yes, there is no Israel without the US.
The JUSA is just the BANK that funds Israel. Israel is the evil power that RUNS the JUSA because they have infiltrated every major institution of government, the banks, media/hollywood, universities, and major corporations. The "normie" citizen of the JUSA has no clue who REALLY runs JUSA because they are too engrossed in their daily bread and circuses. There's your real story... Chip
Nonsense, and it is not "the JEW" that controls the USA. Jews could care less about such silliness, but Zionists do, both Jewish Zionists and Christian Zionists. The world is much more complex than just one bad guy.
You seem to ignore the huge numbers of Christian Zionists in America, including in the Congress and government, people such as Joe Biden, Pete Hegseth, Mike Huckabee, et al. They empower the Zionist Israelis and literally have the same eschatological goals.
Here we go desperately trying to deflect from the Jew problem. What do Christian ‘Zionists’ ever get politically that is not what the Jew wants ?? Answer - nothing.
You guys just keep arguing and running around in circles. If you studied in depth the jewish-Neanderthal DNA connections that would give you the light to follow.
Partly true. But Israel's agents, especially the Conmen who control the Fed and Money creation, of the Too Big (kosher) to Fail thieving persuasion, have insinuated themselves inside the political, corporate and financial centers.
In so doing the great American Engine is in desperate need of a rebuild.
Absolutely the Empire needs a rebuild, but you seem to forget that 'Jews' were considered subhuman in the US until after 1945. Finance in America is controlled by all kinds of men and women who crave money and power.
Why is this thought exchange found under Denis' silly criticism of Russia?
FWIW: Israel has been trying to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians approaching 100 years now. Why is Russia's quest to eliminate all Kiev Nazis held to a "higher standard"?
Denis pulled a stunt on me. His original post was first this morning - he simply posted a ".". I was replying to that. then shortly after, he edited that.
People may call it the fallacy of the hindsight but I think once the Zionists set their goals and methods the oath for genocide and destruction was clear. Maybe the Holocaust/Nazis gave it a clear benefit and allowed to grow beyond any control from outside - I may agree to that. But Apartheid was clearly the goal thus ethnic cleansing were about to happen.
I'm curious, what do you concern trolls do after the war, is there a good retirement plan? Did you put enough away or will you need to find a new conflict?
It would take a whole page to list what Russia and China have done for Iran. In short, though, information and air defense. Without China's Beidou satellite system, Iran's missiles would be much less accurate, and Russia's ManPads brought down a few helicopters and clipped an F-15, maybe brought one down.
What Russia and China were supposed to do here was not sending some MANPADS, they were supposed to do what they did in 1950 for Korea, i.e. enter the war directly with their own aviation.
Mature political leadership favours accommodation through diplomacy. It is a proof of intelligence trying to avoid a military confrontation.
Specially in the case of China the divergence of development in all domains make it logical to avoid conflict or in any case postpone it. In a few more decades the superiority of China will be appalling.
According to historical precedent and due to the strategic necessity.
If Iran falls, Russia is cooked, and then China too.
Thus it should be defended as their own territory.
Also, isn't it strange that in 1950 the US was the only one with nukes -- the USSR had only done its first successful test less than a year prior and had no serious deliverable arsenal yet, China was a decade away from its own first test -- and yet the USSR and China went to fight directly for Korea.
Meanwhile today Russia alone has nuclear dominance over the US, together with China it is no contest. And yet they are both acting as if they have no nukes at all...
Russia actually sold/gave one of its SU models and either sold/gave an S300, maybe an S500 or S550. Iranians are training in Moscow on those systems, but it takes a couple of years to be really proficient.
Frankly, I don't recall Soviet pilots or airplanes fighting in Korea, but I do know there were Chinese.
The Soviet Union provided MiG-15 fighters to North Korea and China starting in late 1950, but North Korean pilots initially struggled against UN jets. Stalin then deployed Soviet air regiments, with pilots flying under North Korean People's Army Air Force (KPAAF) or Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) markings to maintain deniability. These missions focused on "MiG Alley" near the Yalu River, where Soviets downed hundreds of UN aircraft. [en.wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_the_Korean_War)
## Operational Details
Soviet pilots wore Chinese uniforms, used pseudonyms, and spoke only Korean (or Chinese) phrases on radio—though US pilots often heard Russian. They avoided coastal flights to prevent capture and bailed out over friendly territory if shot down. All MiG-15s carried North Korean or Chinese insignia, not Soviet ones. [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/comments/tggken/korean_war_question/)
## Impact and Cover-Up
Soviet fliers achieved significant success, reportedly shooting down 142–1,106 UN planes, outmatching early US jets until the F-86 Sabre arrived. The USSR denied involvement until post-Cold War archives confirmed it; earlier, they claimed only advisory roles. [en.wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley)
Why would they do something that stupid when Iran is defeating the Ameraelis without such involvement by China or Russia? The world has changed since 1950 as Iran demonstrates and allies can assist in many important ways without entering the war directly.
Why is it not relevant that Iran i a very proud nation that has built its industry and military almost indigenously and wants to fight on its own to deserve its rightful place in the world? Even if Russia and China were willing to do what they did in Korea or Vietnam, I doubt Iran would agree. They think differently from our expectations.
The military experts I read say that Russia and China are providing intelligence as well as weapons support. Why would they not? They cannot afford to let Iran fall because the terrorist Ameraelis would be after them next.
There is very little real evidence for anything in war from anyone but we can use our common sense and our knowledge of military history and reach sensible conclusions.
Iran has borders with Azerbaijan and Pakistan and it is not hard for the Russians and Chinese to back up Iran in a physical capacity as well as satellite access for intelligence and information.
Would that be the same alt-media grifters that were saying four years ago that the AFU is completely defeated and all the was left was the mopping up, ten spent the next several years confidently predicting a grand Russian offensive coming any moment, which never happened?
T’fuck you talking about man? Russia and China are supposed to immediately jump in? Ever heard the phrase don’t interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake? And it’s pretty obvious that Iran’s air defense system is not bad at all. Good enough to shoot down advanced US fighters and call checkmate! I have a slightly different perspective - Russia doesn’t care about the Ukraine SMO being protracted. Why would they? They control the battlefield and the initiative. Grind Ukraine down and as an added bonus they get to see the collective west deplete both armaments and money, plus deindustrialization and an energy crisis to boot. Putin is probably chortling into his vodka. This is the best thing that could have happened for Russia and China.
Iran uses BeiDuo for its military navigation and ISR, and was given access to GLONASS for this war. Wreckages of "Shaheds" built with parts with Russian serial numbers and Russian text on them were found at various US bases. Russia sold Iran a bunch of low frequency radars before this war even started. You can say that Russia and China could've done more to support Iran, but to say that they didn't support Iran at all is a bald-faced lie.
Russia, Iran's "loyal and trusted ally", has made it quite clear they would provide whatever Iran needs WHEN and IF Iran requested it. Iran has not, as far as we know, made any such request.
Keeping Iran friendly, intact and stable is essential for Ruusias' Caucasus region southern belly. Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey need to be kept at bay. A chaotic and/or splintered Iran is a nightmare. Also its' a BRICS linchpin. If an increasing percentage of oil/gas is traded outside the petrodollar the US will weaken into financial and societal collapse.
It appears that China pressured Iran to accept this.
And then Iran had no choice, especially with the prospect of Pakistan joining the war against them and eliminating the so far safe eastern sanctuary (notice that Pakistan stated earlier today that they will honor the mutual defense treaty with Saudi Arabia if called upon).
This is not a victory for Iran in any way, because the US has not been evicted from the Middle East and the war can and will restart at any moment, but from again unfavorable to them position.
Pakistan signed a mutual defense treaty with Saudi Arabia last year. Like the one Russia signed with North Korea.
The Pakistani nuclear program was also funded by Saudi Arabia, and it is a badly kept secret that Saudi Arabia's Royal Strategic Missile Forces are not merely equiped with IRBMs from China, but they have nuclear warheads for them coming from Pakistan too.
Saudi Arabia was about to get hit really hard by Iran in the next round of escalation.
" Pakistan stated earlier today that they will honor the mutual defense treaty with Saudi Arabia if called upon"
Note that all such Pakistani statements are irrelevant in law. On any neutrality analysis KSA is a co-belligerent, otherwise (for example) it would have had to intern/expel all US personnel for the duration. (Even on likely an over-broad interpretation, Iran doesn't have matching bases in KSA)
That co-belligerence invalidates any and all defensive alliances. As they say, the clue is in the name. ;) So Pakistani intervention would simply place it on the wrong side of a war of aggression, irrespective of its clever, amusing, and understandable posturing.
Ha ha! Nice try to reproduce Western talking points (propaganda). The SMO had two purposes. 1) To stop the invasion of Donbas by the Banderite fascists; 2) to drive the Ukrainians to the negotiating table. Both missions were accomplished, no matter how many tactical events occurred or didn't occur. In fact, the war would have ended in April, 2022, if not for the West (Boris Johnson) sabotaging the Ankara agreements.
The SMO apparently moves too slowly for the likes of GM and others. But there's method to this operation which goes far beyond what's visible on the frontlines.
For one thing the ensuing sanctions allowed Russia to become more self-sufficient, clipped the wings of the oligarchs, forced Russian society to become more innovative both industrially and technologically, and gave a much needed injection to its military-industrial compamles which was kind of stagnating before.
What Russian military and economic planners learnt through 4 years of the SMO, with all the ups and downs was invaluable.
On top of it they gained much of the Donbass, liberated mariupol, formed the coveted land bridge to Crimea and are, even now getting more depth of their buffer zones.
On top of it, I'd say the one thing Russia was really weak on was their PR, the ability to explain their positions and fashion a narrative to compete with the western one. This is still work in progress, as well know, but they are starting to wisen up about the importance of narrative.
In addition the coupling that occurred between China and Russia, despite centuries of distrust will pay dividends for decades to come, and indeed, this alliance - thanks to two committed leaders - putin and Xi - is now the bedrock of the rising BRICS.
As for how and when the SMO will end, that is hard to guess as of yet. I keep trying to envision an end point given the different parties and the intransigent Europeans but so far, without success. I think this may be a period of "waiting". Something will change in the European consensus in the near future - I just don't see it yet.
"On top of it, I'd say the one thing Russia was really weak on was their PR, the ability to explain their positions and fashion a narrative to compete with the western one."
I suggest the main failing here is an inability by Russia to descend to the puerile levels of propaganda employed in the west. If one actually reads or listens to what they say their arguments are simply and cogently expressed. Unfortunately, they are simply not allowed to be heard in the West (and even if they were I fear they would anyway be beyond the literary comprehension of a dumbed-down audience.)
They did not "need" sanctions; sanctions just gave them impetus to become self-sufficient. In Cuba when the USSR fell and ceased supplying oil and fertilizers, the lack of fertilizer was the greatest shock. But, Cubans turned to organic, sustainable methods for farming and gardening and managed to feed their people healthy food.
"the one thing Russia was really weak on was their PR, the ability to explain their positions and fashion a narrative to compete with the western one"
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I would make analogies to the RF & Iran concentrating on the spoiler move of too many cheap drones to deal with + enough unstoppable hypersonic missiles rather than trying to play a hopeless game of catch up to "achieve aerial dominance" & fight Western traditional air power by building out scads of very expensive 6th generation + fighters.
Instead of working hard to catch up with the world's best funded, most scientifically advanced Madison Avenue marketing bred propaganda, lie & spin machine, futily contesting endless bullshit already pounded into the headspace of the empire's serfs world wide, they just told the physically verifiable truth. And didn't waste a ton of money & skull sweat on trying to "get their competing brand message out there". Net results: USA/Ukraine won the PR war among the duller sort of Western people, who have either now gotten bored and forgotten that the Ukraine war is even a thing still? And in many cases, live in states which lack the industry/manpower to contest with the RF even if their people are brainwashed enough to go there. While RF merely developed a reputation for not LYING egregiously among those capable of rational thought. All that while retaining the backing of 80%+ of their own people, who are rather hard to lie to effectively anyhow, after a cultural inoculation by 70 years of USSR boilerplate level propaganda, lies & spin.
That's a good point you make, one I also consider as part of the overall "Package" of an attrition war.
I'd go further and suggest that a sudden end to the war and removal of sanctions is something Russia is not ready for as people are likely to go on spending sprees again, even as corruption comes back with a vengeance.
Support for this point is to be found in Putin's most recent talk where he admonished against companies - and the state itself - getting high on the hog due to excess profits from rising oil prices. What goes up in a hurry can come down just as fast, he seemed to say. So he continues to advocate for prudence in spending, keeping in mind that the "good days" don't tend to last (whem, oh when can we hear such a speech from ANY American leader? we do hear sometimes from smarter company executives and Think Tankers, but their words are quoted and rarely followed).
The SMO provided also a once in a lifetime opportunity for Putin to get rid of the more sclerotic layers in the military, specifically and visibly elevating those who had experience in the SMO and are more battle hardened and understand what military strategy/good tactics are.
Your last point about Belousiov's appointment is right on the money. It shows intent for organizing Military/Industrial/Commercial segments for the long term. I want a Belousov for the US - wouldn't this be nice?
Alas, we are NOT allowed real competence at the top. That's the real reason why we are all despondent. I mean those of us who tend to think things through a little not the GM corn-pop slingers out there who thrive on visible incompetence, as it gives them endless talking points.
4, going on 5 years and no real solution to the drone problem. Yet tank and BMP production continues to ramp up. Tanks and BMP's which cannot operate on the current battlefield without a solution to the drone problem.
How many drones could be purchased for the cost of 1 T90. The MIC in Russia may be mostly state owned, but it doesnt mean that management is not intent on protecting their own turfs, just like in the US.
4 years in and no systematic and pervasive answer to drones. No sign of large scale experimentation by brigade or division sized units in fighting in new way with new kinds of organizations and equipment. Innovation seems stuck at underfunded low level commands and there are even stories of how those experimenters are punished when they are found out, especially if what they do is successful but outside the MOD's approved approaches.
Whatever happens in Iran, I wonder if the effect in Russia wont be to shine a light on the Russian effort and shout FAILURE
I wouldnt be surprised if total Russian casualties and economic costs have not exceeded those Iran has experienced. And if the terms turn out to be closer to Irans version of the 10 point plan, they will even end up with a new revenue source in the form of tolls to pay for reconstructions.
I'm not being totally serious of course. I get your point and agree. Putins whole SMO is designed to conduct war without disturbing the home front. The whole Lyndon Johnson approach...and we know how that turned out.
You speak as if the "solution" to the drone problem is the easiest thing out there. Like hell it is. Cheap drone swarms and even single baba yaga mother ships are the kind of battle front reshapers that take many years to adjust to.
Also you are quite wrong aboutthe RUF not making advances in dron technology, be it in EW, fiber optic cabling, longer range and remote viewing. What's the name now of that drone whiz unit that we keep hearing about and the Ukrainians dread?
No, I don't think the solution is the "easiest thing out there". The answer will be a combination of technologies and large scale changes in doctrine, organization and equipment for line infantry units from Platoon through Division.
I have no argument with: "making advances in drone technology, be it in EW, fiber optic cabling, longer range and remote viewing". I completely agree, we see it everyday. But all of that is just spreading another layer of Peanut Butter on the same sandwhich.
It is reactive adaptation not a complete rethink of how to conduct operations from smallest unit all the way up.
Militaries are of course, very conservative. The Russian MOD and MIC both have vested interests in war being fought the way it was. Huge industrial enterprises are at risk if suddenly the status quo were replaced by something new and different. Colonels and Generals will see their careers at risk if the world of platoons, companies, battalions and big arrows all change into something else.
My argument is that the Russian Army should select a few Brigades or Division sized units and their area of operations and give them a blank check (more or less) to restructure everything: TOE, fighting doctrine, support echelons, kill chain, coms, logistics. They should be given access to industrial capacity and engineering talent to experiment and those units needs to be insulated as much as possible from interference by their immediate command who in many cases will have incentives to see them fail.
I completely agree with you, it wont be easy. But at this point the Russian effort is largely a failure. And maybe that the way they want it.
No, if you mean me, I didn't. It's just that this a project for the longer term. No one can de-nazify in a day or a year or even five. Changing a culture that's become deeply embedded with propaganda is the hardest thing to do (just ask how we can denazify Israel. Cure it from its genocidal tendencies. I see no way out of a complete defeat, which can only happen as America's fortunes as a protective shield decline much more markedly than they had so far. Though to be fair, Iran just gave this decline a major boost).
Nazism is a poisonous ideology that acts much like a virulent virus, one that can result in slow growing but ultimately malignant cancers. There are antidots, but the virus keeps mutating into still more nefarious but better hidden forms. Periodically re-emerging from latency into new outbreaks of pestilence. This is one of my favorite analogies I hope to expand on in due course (time being in short supply at the moment).
Here we go again. The first post on a new thread entirely about the Iran war is to blame only Russia-Russia-Russia for the unprovoked war of aggression unleashed against Iran by the US and Israel. Denis is almost certainly part of Team Nafo's professional propaganda group operating daily on this blog. Along with likely co-workers GM, Elena, and a few tag-along true believing me-too types, imho. Same old repetetive slop. Same group action. every.single.time.
Why not say: "Canada: The Big Letdown" (?). Canada isn't even fighting its own existential war right now like Russia is, yet Canada does absolutely nothing for Iran. Supports the US, in fact. At least Russia and China today VETOED a UN Security Council Resolution that tried to blame Iran for the war and require Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz.
Controlled opposition we call it. There is of course a connection even if it's not entirely visible. No two things are completely alike but also all battles in our currently ultra-connected world have ties underground.
Still - what the heck, it tempted me into yet another tl;dr
Putin can't touch Zelensky, he promised ex Israeli PM Bennett (an Epstein friend) that fellow Jew Zelensky wouldn't be harmed. Why anyone would remove maintaining that strategic ambiguity in an existential war in a promise to an irrelevant foreign country is one for the historians to analyse.
I used the commons analogy because today anyone can set up a website, channel, substack etc.) and put themselves out there as some kind of expert, which also applies to the comment sections. Some of it is good analysis no doubt, but you have to wade through a lot of nonsense to get to it, and unless you're working to an exacting standard that requires multiple reliable sources and some degree of confidence in the author(s) qualifications, you basically end up in an echo chamber where opinion holds sway over fact. That's an entirely separate issue from intentional disinformation which is also an obstacle if you're trying to discern the truth, whatever that might be.
I really tried my best to make this sh*t make sense but it's so mind-bending stupid and works with childish assumptions that have no base in reality whatsoever.
You might want to read it over and allow yourself some critical thinking?
So as it is now it is not made you pass with a sufficient grade, sorry but spitting out rubbish brings no added value to any discussion.
It's a fine line between using the "block" feature enough to remove troll detritus & read more efficiently without also blocking accounts of those who merely have different ideas/information sources.
That being said, I already blocked a good number of those account names "thatguy" mentioned- Now I have more time to read useful material instead of wading knee deep through dull witted, repetitive troll shit.
We've been over this a dozen times. Russia is pursuing its war the way Russia wants to. This is not up to you or me. Your continual whining about it isn't going to change anything.
So the trolls are posting "first" faster than anyone could read the actual content, then coming back to edit in their bullshit/distraction du jour, ensuring most people who read comments "oldest first" have to wade through their bullshit?
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Blocked that hedgehog buggering Canadian & moving on now.
Exactly right. I saw it happen in real time. First post was about five words long. The final, edited post by "Denis" is a long essay blaming only Russia for the latest unprovoked war of aggression against Iran started by US and Israel. And the hijacking worked exactly as planned. These aren't your average run of the mill "trolls". They operate in a coordinated, organized fashion.
Just like the situation in Ukraine, where Zelensky is saving Russia from the traitors in the Kremlin by refusing to sign up to whatver treasonous for Russia deal those slimebags have agreed to with the Americans, we can hope that in this situation the Israelis will be true to their rogue self and will derail this before it can do too much damage to Iran.
Indeed. I don't know anymore what to believe and what not. The only thing I am sure of is that there is something very wrong with the president of the USA. Simplicius nailed it down: a spoiled manchild.
I agree. I was thinking about what happens if, God forbid, the war continues until the midterms and the democrats sweep Congress. Would they end the insanity and impeach Trump? Maybe but I don’t think so. Congress is totally spineless. The democrats would be no better. Well, we already know that Vance was the only person in Trump’s inner circle to vociferously oppose the war. The chairman of the joint chiefs thought it was crazy but said it’s not his job to offer a position on it. What a fuckin wuss. And if it continued until the next presidential election? Let’s say we get president Newsom and Vice President Cortes. They will be cursed just as Obama was with Iraq and Afghanistan. Democrats are terrified of being seen as weak on defense and are almost as servile to Israel as the republicans. So it would probably continue. God how depressing.
There is an obvious disconnect between Foreign Minister Araghchi's post and the declaration of the Iranian Supreme National Security Council.
Araghchi, typical diplomat (a fast disappearing species these days) refers politely to the 15 point US plan and the 10 point Iranian plan as being the basis for the negotiations (both of these documents were exchanged days ago but conveniently unearthed for the ceasefire).
The Supreme Council declaration rejoices of the forced acceptance by criminal America of the 10 point plan. No mention of the 15 point US plan.
Incidentally, based on press leaks, the 15 point US plan was all about Iran stopping its nuclear programme and giving up nuclear materials / ballistic missiles, freedom of navigation etc. while the Iranian 10 point plan was about US exiting Middle East, durable peace, Hormuz under Iranian-Oman control with reparations being levied on Gulf exports.
This ceasefire really looks like a one-bed-for-two-dreams situation.
And now Bibi has added a bulk-carrier dose of salt by saying that, of course, this ceasefire has got nothing to do with Lebanon (Gaza - or what is left of it - obviously does not even deserve to be mentioned).
Yes. Clean analysis! Diplomacy will not prevail. We have seen it in the ”truce” in Gaza - the killing, starving and destruction is going on as we speak.
The point plans mirror those for Ukraine - not even touching each other so what we can state as a matter of fact is that both US and Iran has issued a list of ”positions”. And we can be sure that the third party, the main inistigators, only has one position regarding Iran.
Israel has to be entirely dismantled and Zionists rounded up by the millions and put to work on prison farms with absolutely no 20th or 21st century technology.
True Jews such as those that have lived in peace in Iran for centuries, and for that matter, true Christians and true Muslims need to live without the threat of rabid Zionist supremacist ideology anywhere in the world, including in reunified Palestine.
As for Trump he has clearly joined the other living US presidents as a group of perverse treasonous criminals that deserve to face a public hanging.
The Straits were not closed, except to US and its ally aggressors and it is still closed to them. And the US has betrayed every deal and shitrael has never honoured a ceasefire in its existence so why would anyone believe anything Frump says?
The litmus test is whether the straits remain closed to the US and their allies/vassals. And if open, what the underlying financial transactions in play are. Toll or no toll? Yuan or US$?
The straits will not be open to the US or Israel but then as Trump has said, the US does not need Middle Eastern oil. That is not totally true but he can run with it if the problem is solved for the world in general.
Payments will be in Yuan. the petrodollar is just about dead.
Not sure if the payments will be in yuan. China doesn't want it to be a world currency, they keep a tight control on how much the yuan is worth. Which they can't if it is widely traded. They have always resisted spreading the yuan like that.
Somewhat ironic that the final attempts to extend the petrodollar is guaranteed to end it….ah well, the money mongers have likely already invested elsewhere….
Because this isn't a US initiative. Trump has been manoeuvred into being a mouthpiece. It was brokered by Pakistan with Turkey, Egypt supporting and China as guarantor. Iran's support is highly conditional. Their demand to negotiate with Vance seems to.have achieved more than they hoped for, at this stage anyway.
Trump has put forward what the Iranians presented some days ago. American remain ignorant because mainstream media did not touch the Iranian conditions as presented.
Pakistan is the middle man but is presenting what the Iranians have written.
—❗️🇺🇸/🇨🇳/🇮🇷 BREAKING: The breakthrough in negotiations came as China promised to act as a guarantor that the U.S. would ‘accept at least some of Iran’s conditions’ mentioned in the 10-point framework during upcoming negotiations in Islamabad
As a gesture of goodwill, China vetoed a UN Security Council Resolution on the Strait of Hormuz earlier today, despite the crisis directly affecting China itself. – Sources
Still have to 😆 at this strategic blunder which has only provided an unprecedented geo-strategic leverage to Iran, China and Russia for the foreseeable future.
Israel is still a rabid wild card that will have to be put down if any ceasefire is to solidify into a lasting peace.
Communist "Iranians" in Europe are already saying they want the war to go on. They have been dancing wrapped in Israeli and US flags in front of the Iranian embassies. They laughed and cheered outside the embassies when Ayatollah Khamenei was killed. They shout "javid shah!", long live the shah, because the shah's son supports the US-Israeli attack. When real Iranians were celebrating Persian New Year, communists showed up to their gatherings to shout "javid shah!" at them as some sort of slogan.
When Trump wrote that "a civilization will die," they quickly turned that into, "Yes, kill the Muslim civilization in Iran!"
(Simplicius won't mention this, it contradicts his "lead the global south/global majority against the capitalist colonialist West!" fantasy, when all the communists except a handful like himself are on Washington's side against conservative Iran and conservative Russia.)
After the conservative revolution in Iran, throwing out the kleptocrats, the Soviet-backed communists went to Europe. They support the Mujahedin-e-Khalq, the MeK guerrilla, who killed bureaucrats and police officers. Khamenei's arm was permanently withered because of one of their bombs. The MeK were housed by Saddam Hussein in an army base, like a cult where the children grew up in isolation. They helped Hussein interrogate and torture war prisoners when he invaded Iran with U.S. aid. After 2003 the U.S. moved the MeK to a base in Albania. Courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer. They are the ones Mossad used to murder Iranian professors and technicians. The "Iranians who support Trump" online are either the communists in Europe or the communists in the MeK, whose only claim to being Iranian is that they can tweet in Farsi.
I don't understand - how does the US and Israel still have enough ammo to continue bombing? How much have they used up and how is Israel still able to launch planes and stand off weaponry to bomb Iran? 🤔
They don't, that's the thing. That's why they asked for a ceasefire.
Today they were firing Tomahawks into Teheran. And several MQ-9s were shot down, likely dropping JDAMs.
The reported strikes today weren't all the voluminous either -- yes, they hit some bridges, but the number of strikes was much less overall. Likely a consequence of Iranian AD being pulled out of underground storage the last few days and US jets starting to go down.
They might be flying tactical aviation along some somewhat secured corridors, but you wouldn't be firing superexpensive, and at this point very scarce too, Tomahawks on the 38th day of a way in which you have supposedly long ago achieved total air supremacy. You would be flying heavy bombers, or at the very least tactical aviation to drop JDAMs directly, at 1/200th the cost.
This happened in the 12-day war too -- they ran out of ammo, they asked for ceasefire. Iran shou'dn't have agreed then, and it shouldn't have agreed now either.
Unless two things happened:
1) Trump threatened to use nukes, which is his only winning move left (and everybody knew that before the war even started -- the only way you can defeat Iran is using nukes, and not tactical ones, but strategic strikes)
2) The Chinese pressured Iran, as they are rumored to have done. And as I warned here several times before the war started -- China was always much more likely to pressure Iran to reopen the Hormuz strait than to help it win the war.
What I find really fascinating in the whole story is that US prepares China to be slaughtered in the exact same fashion it prepared Japan to be slaughtered 90 years ago, the whole freaking books were written that explain how precisely that have happened back then and would happen now… and yet China simply plays along and sleep-walks into major defeat around year 2029-2030. That story with Iran was obviously to make sure Iran would be ready to destroy Gulf states oil complexes when Trump (or, more likely, his successor) would destroy Iran's oil complexes — and China played right along by picking option that helps it now yet robs it of the future… just like it used its trump card, rare metals, now — when it could have kept it stashed for the use when it'll be really needed.
And while US with Trump as clown-who-doesn't-understand anything does that, ruthlessly and consistently… we see ZERO attempts on China side to do ANYTHING to prepare.
I mean: the final stage would obviously be military… with US sending all countries it could (Japan, Philipines, Australia, etc) to “soften” China, first, everyone knows that — and yet China doesn't even try to train its army! At least Russia had the galls to change the rules in a way that would probably mean that Korea would have an excuse to avoid that suicide attempt — yet China does nothing.
WTH? Does China really believe it may win military war with cargo ship? The whole thing is incredibly bizzare.
P.S. But yeah, have to admit: Trump is forced to declare victory with VERY weak cards — and yet… countries would either have to hail Trump as victor… or be excluded from oil deal. Who may afford that? I'm just surprised Simplicius couldn't see that: one may despise Trump and all these rivers of blood, Trump brings to the world… but to say that Trump doesn't have a plan… when Trump is doing what he was supposed to do brilliantly. Sigh.
Oh, if China goes into an attrition naval war with the US, it will win it with ease.
The US has no ship building capacity left, and at this point the Chinese navy has more ships. Plus it has the advantage of the home turf coast fighting ships that are far away from home. So even if they are trading blows and sinking each other's ships at 1:1 ratio, or even slightly unfavorable to China, the end result will be that the Americans have no Navy left and won't be able to reconstitute it, while the Chinese with their 200:1 advantage in ship building capacity will return to dominate the seas in just a few years.
The mistake here is thinking that the US will just stupidly enter such a war of attrition. Underestimating the enemy is something one should never do. And the Americans are not stupid.
The only way to deal with them is to realize what the mistake of the natives in North America and Australia was. In retrospect it is clear that their policy should have been to exterminate everyone who tries to land on their shores before they can get a stable foothold. With zero exceptions and zero mercy. That wasn't done because they didn't understand the nature of the threat and we know what happened after that. But we do understand the nature of the threat today. So the policy of the Eurasian countries should be to keep the Anglo-Saxons in the Western hemisphere, with zero tolerance to any incursions outside of it. That means all bases have to go, and no US ships should be allowed to approach Eurasia. Break all diplomatic relationships too, and shut down all travel, because even just those interactions have an undermining, corrupting and corrosive effect. But that is just unthinkable at the moment, and even fighting back the active process of encirclement is not something they can bring themselves to start to doing, especially in China.
A big part of it is the immense historical arrogance of the Chinese. They have a long history of just absorbing invaders into their own culture, which they mistakenly think is primarily because of the innate supremacy of that culture, and not because of their superiority in numbers. The Japanese invasion of the 20th century, which was with genocidal intent, did spook them, but clearly hasn't forced them to shake off that conviction, because in the end their superior numbers prevailed in that case too. They just can't quite conceive of a threat that they won't be able to neutralize the way they always have.
The other part is plain old vicious short-sighted greed. War is bad for business, therefore we will avoid it at all cost, no matter how much our geostrategic position sinks.
P.S. The Russians have the latter problem even worse than the Chinese, but at least in terms of threat perception they are much more attuned to reality, because they barely escaped in WWII and never fully recovered from it. The Chinese lost about the same absolute number of people, but proportionally the damage was much less, and they did fully recover from it
Again: you are missing the forest for the trees. US is demonstrating, right now, in a real time, how much powerful Navy would help in the next war — and we may see that it wouldn't help much at all. Simple and cheap drone boats can be used to make any narrow strip of water impassable.
The only way to solve that issue it to subjugate population on the shores and islands. Now look on map, notice which islands are there near US and near China, notice how US already starts plans to solve that issues (Canada — or, rather, shores or Canada, Greenland, Cuba… why do you think Trump already starts preparing to take over all these) while China… China, again, does nothing.
Russia is preparing, BTW, just geography puts it in much worse position than either China or US.
It's really crazy:
1. Russia recognized these issues years, maybe even decades ago, but was simply not in position to do much, it doesn't have enough resources to address these issues except in a very narrow strip around itself.
2. US have realized that they they are running of time couple of years ago and started preparations in the crazy expedited mode.
3. China… is sleepwalking as if it really believes “international law” would have any meaning without actively used military power in next 5 or 10 years.
Are they really that stupid or just that arrogant?
Approximately $40 trillion in debt for weapons! Weapons weapons everywhere! Just listen to Trumpenstein, he will tell you how amazing the US army is, endless capacity. The hugest most baddest army in the universe.
And the cool part is, we're in debt for those trillions to the banksters, who not ONLY create the loaned money out of thin air, but also OWN the weapons manufacturing companies, AND - get this, they're SO awesome - create all wars under false pretenses MAINLY so they CAN "loan" this money to us... as well as, usually, to the folks we're fighting! Such a neato package, with a bow on top! Our true leaders. Smartest guys in the room.
Imagine what could be done, just with the materials that they waste. Steel, lead, copper, brass, tungsten, the oil being burnt up, jet fuel, ply shuttering for concrete casting, solid rocket fuel that could be used for fertilizer...endless self enriching feeding frenzy.
They're not really loaning money, they just tell the government to order really expensive weaponry on your behalf and tax you for it.
Every good American knows it is for your security and safety.
There is always going to be a money printing press, since there are a million extra people on earth every five days. It just really helps if you own it, in case you want to print some for yourself ;)
Only until they run into Madame Guillotine. Which, like the Bourbons, they are literally incapable of seeing coming... (for two independent reasons, arrogance and ignorance) ;)
It's interesting how Thomas Jefferson wanted guillotines installed in every village square (until, as Ambassador to France, he himself had a lucky escape iirc due to a tip-off...).
Well actually they don't. That's why they accepted a ceasefire. The failed SO in Isfahan caused the wheels to fall of their best laid plans. It proved that only stand-off attacks were feasible. They had the option of cleaning out strategic weapon stock in Asia and Europe or nuking the Iranians. It seems they chose to de-escalate instead. Let's hope it sticks. I'm sure the Iranians don't hold out too much hope.
Well well well looks like Iran lost the second Epstein war. Total Israeli victory. Iran a nation of philosophers? Pshhh a nation of dupes more like. I doubt they'll learn the five hundredth time when they get bombed out of nowhere again. "No bro trust me, 10 point plan, it won't be like the last 2 million times where the US renegs. You can trust Israel too, look at Gaza". I guess the president finally got the national army to make the IRGC stand down.
And just when Western interceptors were on their most minimum ever, literally stockpiles with dates like February 2026... barely holding on and Iran decides to puss out. Typical. Must've been a run on tampons due to sanctions I'm sure. I guess killing an Ayatollah only costs 40 days of pain. Cheap price.
Thankfully there is no ceasefire for Gaza. They are technically the instigators of this whole fiasco. October 7... I mean I'm sure now every Arab and Muslim hates Palestinians for bringing this chaos and destruction. Every lebanese, Iranian and yemeni have a right to be angry at Palestinians, including the GCC. They've brought ruin to the region.
As for the US, what a glorious operation. Iran has been set back by decades on all fronts. Not just material but wisdom. Senior scientists and officials wiped out. AI programs gone. They can stay a relatively docile fourth-rate power. Missiles, drones, naval mines sure.... but no AI. No advanced software. No advanced circuitry. This hopefully will lead to no nuclear program as without those you can't have the other. In the chaos CIA has infiltrated nearly everything.
As new Iranian personnel backfill the ranks many of them are already CIA-turned. So we just need time for them to establish roots, get more intel on their area of responsibility and once we have that data its go time again.
Very foolish of Iran. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, well unlike George Bush if you're Iran you can be fooled twice, three times, even fifty.
PizzaHut in Tehran by Christmas. Its over. I wonder if they'll have a saffron-topped pizza?
Nah its over bro. Believe me it shouldn't be but its over. The second Iran accepted a ceasefire, no matter how one sided, it was signalling that it was the weaker party. And the new generation in the Middle East definitely feel no kin towards the Palestinians, they see the economic turmoil they bring to the region. At least Israel attracts Nvidia and Microsoft. Remote work to contractors in the region who have high IQs. All Gaza did was disrupt the entire Middle Eastern market, you know it, you see it. Nothing changed for Gaza, it got worse and everyone had to deal with economic chaos in some kinetic manner.
Lol, you forgot to mention the elephant in the room. Iran has shown their control of the Straits is unassailable, isn't that obvious enough for you? Perhaps you need a few days of R and R while the AI is reprogrammed with more up to date data.
That's like saying the US has shown its control of Panama... after losing the white house, the president, the pope, and half its armed forces.
Awesome. And they wonder why Resistards can never seem to ever be "winning". Like I said before, they'll see a chinese manpads blow up before hitting its target and clap calling it a victory.
Shhh, this is a discussion for people who read books. Not people who think youtube is a source. Grr are you an Arab by chance? Your disdain for reading is telling.
LOL says the flat earther. Hey did you see the Artemis II launch? Did it shatter your world that the earth wasn't flat? Or are you going to continue claim we live in a flat donut or something?
Perhaps you missed the latest edition of Flat Earth Monthly? The theoretical physicists that made the discovery even sprinkled cinnamon and castor sugar on it.
You mad that America, while fighting a war, can send man to the moon? You do realize in the 70s America was fighting the Vietnam war, sent man to the moon, built the internet and perfected global commerce all in the same time right? Its called winning. You know what is "not winning"? Iran and its cuck out. At least Israel took the time to wipe out Hezbollah families.
You'll be surprised.. I've gone on some sites and they literally regurgitate western msm as facts even if it's totally contradictory from one report to the next. They really believe that they lost all those planes to a 'rescue' operation
Don't shoot the messenger. Cope and seethe all you want but deep down you know its true. Its basically saying "yeah this fight is NOT existential, we don't need to go full beast mode". Do you think Israel is thinking like that?
Like your prophet says (I assume you're a mohammedan from THAT name) don't pursue knowledge for worldy gain. Use it to humble yourself.
You don't need a crystal ball. Past behaviour is a good indicator of future behaviour. But hey if you need to lull yourself into a sense of accomplishment that's cool. I'll come find you when the US renegs, doesn't pay any reparations and had spent the last 2 weeks rearming faster than Iran can. After all this is the SECOND Epstein war... why wouldn't there be a third?
Bro they're flying special forces in by the hundreds in and out of Iran. They're now in Islamabad talking. Its over. IF they were serious they would have kept channels closed for a year or until Trumps presidency failed.
Recognize that Iran lost. But hey I guess if Syria falling to Al-Qaeda is a victory in your eyes then nothing looks like defeat, am I right?
Um... The US is THE main enemy of Russia. That's why we worked so diligently since the end of WWII to get ready for this proxy Ukraine war. If I were Russia and had the ability to start an all-out nuclear holocaust, I think I'd do a bit of tiptoeing too. And would recommend that to others who might express impatience.
OK admit it, you took his Art of the Deal Special Discount Online Class, didn'cha?!
The latest rescue of the pilot costs the US according to some insiders 12 to 15 airplanes, little birds included now a B52 is there any greater invitation to get it down, tell me. The Baltics opening their airspace for launching Ukraine missiles, they are playing open door or is it a red flag on a bull, in this case a bear. What else is there to invite Russia extending their peace pact with financial, economic and military Europe.
Happily Russia's playing stupid games, but EU is playing dangerous how long before someone loses patience that has been tested to the impossible?
Russia is frightened, weak, powerless.
sure buddy... Chip
Dima was wrong many times
Pls note that the average person is focused on the paper price of oil.. the actual deliveries are priced way way higher.. and never properly reported in the press.
$2/gallon here in Texas... Chip
Drove to San Antonio from South Texas for the Valero Open. Was paying $3.99 there and back. Down here was $2.19 before this all started... Chip
Retired Engineer here. That's been my life's experience as well. The grand thinkers are simply unable to think through the logistics of the plan and so the build out is impossible without lots of tweaking, changes, and compromise... Chip
This is true. As a corporate computer programmer, I'd see upper management make grandiose short-term promises to companies we were merging with that were insane in terms of the time and money required to keep the company from crash-and-burning because of those stupid and effectively worthless 'offers.'
Right!... At first I thought Simplicius was doing satire. A grand thinker, com'on. He is also a slave to Jewish backers money his whole life, most recently Miriam Adelson.
Like many other geopolitical players Iran is waiting until after the Republicans get decimated this November, and he is a lame duck.
I really truly wish that people would at some point realise that Trump is not a slave to Jewish interests and is somehow being controlled by zionists. He is no slave. He is a co-conspirator. He loves israel and its cause.
He does what he does and says what he says not because he is a slave, but because he is a committed zionist.
Hes committed to where the big check comes from. He doesn't care about zionism. He cares about what they give him and what they have on him
What you say is true, but it is bigger than that. Trump has been a committed zionist for most of his life and his family are zionists. He has hated Iran for decades because like most zionists, he believes that Iran is the biggest obstacle to Greater Israel. Some rabbis over the years have even considered him to be this generation's Gentile Messiah.
I disagree about Trump being a committed zionist. He is not and never has been committed to anything but himself.
Does it really matter whether the dog wags the tail or the other way around?
Nope. It's all the same dog. And it's such obvious "good cop-bad cop" bullshit that even supposedly intelligent people on sites like this still fall for it every time it's trotted out.
If that were true, why has he publicly stated that Marian Adelson owns him?
He is indeed indebted to Miriam Adelson and will do what she wants. That is not the point I was making. The point being that zionists were responsible for putting him in office, giving him funds and running his election, giving him media support. And though once elected, he follows through with their wishes, he does so as a committed "one of them" - it's something he would have done anyway had he been elected on his own, no force needed.
What he didn't want, however, was to follow Bibi's orders because he despises him. But I believe Bibi blackmailed him - Trump does not want to be exposed for the pervert he is - and Bibi has all that in his hands.
What if above the "zionists" are the satanists, and the whole thing of zionism and the newborn crusaderdom is a big deception?
Oh, it TOTALLY is. Good thing you brought it up. Being a zionist (not a top-level one who actually knows that it's a ruse) requires being DumberThanDirt. And as much as people want to believe Trump's clowinishness is real, my money's on the fact that you can't be a tycoon and a complete dolt at the same time.
He is a grand or grandiose thinker to be more precise but he's shite on the follow through. Grand isn't always a positive thing like hubris it has brought many down but follow through and commitment is. And that's lacking in Trump cause all his grand failures are cushioned by money and that makes for soft not fatal crash landings.
Why do you think democrats are immune to Israeli demands?
Recall that the Biden Admin did little new to support Israel, except to not object to the cleansing of Gaza. Even with Blinken/Nuland running foreign policy.
Most of the uni-party in Congress receive some support from AIPAC. AIPAC are more moderate Zionists.
The IAC (Israel America Council) are hard-core neocon Zionists. The Adelsons founded it because AIPAC was too "liberal-left" leaning. It was IAC supporters that funded Trump with big money. We are seeing the consequences.
That’s interesting, didn’t know that. But as we’ve seen it it’s politically very hard for the democrats to end a war because they don’t want to appear weak, remember it took until the Biden administration to get us out of Afghanistan! I am moderately hopeful that this can stop now because the alternative would be horrible
It's likely that the only reason we finally left Afghanistan is because the poppy fields had a bad year or something. Or maybe we allowed Al Qaeda to take over in exchange for some small percentage of the heroin profits.
It’s the Taliban in Afghanistan innit. Small percentage? I don’t think so. They’re supposed to have gotten rid of the opium farms but probably not.. at least not completely. But I hear from people familiar with the situation that the amount and quality of heroin on the street definitely went through a dry spell. One reason why fetty became such a big problem. Heroin is coming back, guessing Laos, Burma, Mexico etc picked up the slack.
It’s the Taliban in Afghanistan innit. Small percentage? I don’t think so. They’re supposed to have gotten rid of the opium farms but probably not.. at least not completely. But I hear from people familiar with the situation that the amount and quality of heroin on the street definitely went through a dry spell. One reason why fetty became such a big problem. But it is coming back, guessing Laos, Burma, Mexico etc picked up the slack.
Interesting info, thank you. Although saying that "not objecting" to that horrific genocide was no big deal for a president... not to mention calling it "cleansing..." Geez, dude~
What makes you believe that there will be “elections” in November? Or if there are midterms, they will not be rigged in some way?
"There are no precedents for canceling or postponing federal congressional elections in the United States, even during times of severe national crisis such as the Civil War, World Wars, or the COVID-19 pandemic.
Historical Record: Elections have been held on schedule since 1845, including during the Civil War when Abraham Lincoln was reelected in 1864 while the nation was in active rebellion, and during World War I and World War II.
Legal Authority: Neither the Constitution nor federal statutes grant the President or the executive branch the power to cancel or reschedule elections; only Congress has the authority to change election dates through legislation."
Recent history (2020) indicates the Democrats are more effective cheaters than Republicans. How is Trump's Save Act doing in the Senate?
It seems that you are falling to understand that this is not a traditional type of “administration.” We are dealing with a dictatorial regime that has absolutely no concern for the law or Constitution. Trump has consistently violated both with impunity.
And so the fear mongering begins! We will have to rig the elections for the Democrats to prevent this and protect democracy!
He lacks impulse control which is why he never attained any public office other than the Presidency. Any other office would have filtered out.
He was selected as a TV personality to sucker in voting fodder. A weak Vice President whose life was shaped by a PayPal millionaire was an appendage. Reagan was tied to organised crime through Screen Actors Guild and Trump was Mob connected through Roy Cohn - to both Kosher Nostra and the Pasta eaters
Unfortunately the Epstein class existed before modern Israel, and its destruction will not be the end of them. This isn't over until the world turns to Jesus Christ who spent his life pointing out the evil of their ways and showing us what we need to do to save ourselves and stop them.
Oh, do shut up.
Perhaps someone else will appreciate my point which, despite your view to the contrary, I still feel is both correct and valuable.
Wake me up when Jesus starts talking about the evil of his father's ways.
Is there any particular instance which you find troublesome?
And are you sure you are not confusing evil with just? Punishment is a legitimate response to sin, especially an unrepentant sinner. People in general did not traditionally find God's behavior evil - and they understood that good and evil are absolutes and mercy is the bestower's to grant when it is deserved, and if it were universally granted that itself would be condoning evil.
PS Here is someone more qualified than I discussing the topic.
https://churchlifejournal.nd.edu/articles/god-doesnt-break-bad-in-the-old-testament/
Iran is doing that as we speak.....
Russia: The Big Letdown.
The way Russia has conducted its SMO has been a complete disappointment
It all started with a poorly planned offensive, having failed to adequately soften AFU defenses with a bombing campaign. The army advanced in parade formation against well-entrenched enemy positions and were getting destroyed so fast that they had to retreat in haste, leaving war material behind. 10 years to prepare and plan, a few days before the full retreat. Heading into 5 years, not much has changed besides static WW1 positional and never-ending attritional warfare costing more in dead soldiers, destroyed weapons, economic setbacks and war fatigue from the general population. Russians can't even complain about the SMO or run the risk of imprisonment.
What's with taking away citizens' internet use and only allowing certain apps? Police are pulling citizens over to check their phones for illegal usage of certain apps. This has caused quite a stir among the population. Con't
And what about Ukraine having the luxury of supplying the Middle East countries with drones and trainers? How can Russia allow Ukraine's drone production to continue to mass produce without bombing those sites into oblivion? Are you kidding me? Drone production sites should be priority one for demolition, yet Russia has allowed Ukraine to increase production to the point of excess and sell them to Iran's enemy.
And what about Russia's refining plants and ships getting continually attacked? These attacks are seldom discussed, but they are significant. Russian losses from these attacks are in the billions and counting. Russia's soft stance continues to fuel attacks on its vital oil industry without repercussions. Really? It never had to be this way, but by failing to neutralize Ukraine's AFU forces, things just keep getting worse.
And what about Russia knocking out command and control centers, taking out Zelensky and friends? Look at what the US and Israel did to Iran on the first day. They liquidated most of the leadership and top generals on day one, gone. Who was the last army general or political leader of Ukraine to be taken out in the past 4 and a half years? They're not even afraid to expose themselves because Russia won't hit them.
And what about Russia making a stand in support of Iran besides rhetoric? Why didn't Russia say that war with Iran is a war against Russia? Would the US and Israhell have attacked under those conditions. Not a chance in hell.
I know the excuses are coming. lol, but that's all they are. Excuses. Nearly 5 years of excuses and they just keep piling up year after year.
Even the Russian citizenship has had it with this poorly planned and thought-out SMO.
Russian citizens are sick of Putin's SMO turned into a never-ending war.
Putin is gone next election. He's done like dinner, just like Trump. They make a good pair. That's why they get along so good.
Maybe that's why citizens are threatened with jail for criticizing the SMO and Putin's handling of it. They see the writing on the wall, but they can't openly complain like all the other generals who were jailed for speaking out. It's called censorship to enable the bullshit lies the Kremlin keeps feeding its public.
My best wishes go out to the true Russian patriots who stand for their country and not just enrichen themselves like the Kremlin oligarchs. (same as the US oligarchs) 😂
@BillLawson
I'm curious, what do concern trolls do after the war, is there a good retirement plan? Did you put enough away or will you need to find a new conflict?
Well done.
Trump desperately wants a way out - there is only ONE way out - allow the destruction of israel, because no matter what kind of deal is reached with Iran, israel will continue to destroy it. And this goes for Iran as well - destroy israel or continue to face eternal conflicts and sanctions. And this goes for the rest of the world - allow israel to be destroyed or it will face continual wars and economic disruptions.
The zionist entity must die for the sake of all.
That is correct and Iran clearly knows that, but it is Iran that looks good here to the world in accepting this ceasefire and USrael looks bad because the world knows they will renege as well.
The war continues.
Zionists like Trump and Zelensky know only how to start wars but they never want to stop them. That would not be profitable and against tribal rules. This two weak peace is an illusion.
Indeed. Expressed by zionists themselves:
"You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. - Marcus Eli Ravage, Jewish author, quote from January 1928 issue of Century Magazine
"We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will for ever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build."- Maurice Samuels, Jewish author, quote from You Gentiles
Either Israel cuts out the US cancer or the US cuts out the Israel/Dual Citizen Cancer.
That. Is the war coming up.
You also fell for the Israel is the source of all of that now?
Without the USA support their would be no Israel any longer to begin with.
The USA was and is the evil power that feeds and arms Israel, not the other way around.
Right. But it's a bit more complex than that. Zionism and the israeli entity are tools set up to eventuate teh control of the world by certain old banking families centred in the City of London. Zionism and israel is then kept alive by infiltrating the American establishment with zionists at all levels of government, business, academia, media and military using a vast and pervasive lobbying network coupled with an massive perversion of the powerful American Christian establishment with zionist ideals (they started by financing the perversion of scriptures through the Schofield Bible in the early 19th century creating dispensationalism). Thus israeli and zionist project is protected by the USA and the USA is held to the "true" path by the above-mentioned internal influences.
Well, why not say Rothschild?
Why not discuss Meyer Lansky and the creation of Las Vegas to launder Mexican Drug money?
Why not acknowledge 40% of American Billionaires are Jews (not that the other 60% are any less guilty)?
Do need to? There are other old families involved in this scheme besides the Rothschilds - the Wallenbergs, the Warburgs, the Berenbergs, etc.
But the Rothschilds are certainly the dominant players in the creation of israel/zionist project.
And most of the gentile billionaires are zionists as well.
My point was not to enter a wider discussion of those points you made but simply point out that there is a kind of co-dependency at play.
yes - why not. The jew is the problem
Come, come now. Meyer Lansky was nearly wiped out when Cuba took their island back.
That's the push behind Trump's Cuban excursion.
Another Iran adventure? Sure, Donnie, sure.
Was Meyer Lansky a mafiso criminal because he was Jewish or because he was a criminal? The same is so for billionaires or bankers. It seems to me you worship Jews!
Just wrote nearly the same comment above before I saw yours LOL... Chip
Sorry, but your post is silly and misses the point entirely. Zionism is a serious eschatology that has more to do with end times than material considerations. Our problem is that it kills and steals to achieve that goal in the material world. This is so for both Christian and Jewish Zionists.
Who's arguing with you? .....
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Looking over your other comments, you don't seem to be consistent. Are you defending Jews or attacking Jews?
Or are you trying to convince us that Israel should continue to exist.
Israel brought this on itself -- again.
There seems to be "something" deranged about being a Jew. They destroy themselves century after century.
The ‘tail’ doesn't wag the ‘dog’?
Existential threat?
“To retain its military power and reserve currency the US needs leverage to force China to provide it with rare earth minerals, and the US intends to use Iran’s oil as that leverage.“?
https://un-denial.com/2026/03/05/cactus-view-of-the-iran-war/
I think Israel, through its' wealthy donors and dirt on key individuals in the kleptocrat class from Epsteins' schemes has undo influence on its' host. But, yes, there is no Israel without the US.
The JUSA is just the BANK that funds Israel. Israel is the evil power that RUNS the JUSA because they have infiltrated every major institution of government, the banks, media/hollywood, universities, and major corporations. The "normie" citizen of the JUSA has no clue who REALLY runs JUSA because they are too engrossed in their daily bread and circuses. There's your real story... Chip
Your thought is mostly paranoia, and it serves to detract from the greed and excess of the entire moneyed class. "Look at the bad guy over there!"
Backed up 100% by very observable facts which you choose to ignore... Chip
except that the JEW controls the USA. get it right frank sailor
Which Jew would that be? Rabbi Elhanan Beck? Norman Finkelstein?
Nonsense, and it is not "the JEW" that controls the USA. Jews could care less about such silliness, but Zionists do, both Jewish Zionists and Christian Zionists. The world is much more complex than just one bad guy.
You seem to ignore the huge numbers of Christian Zionists in America, including in the Congress and government, people such as Joe Biden, Pete Hegseth, Mike Huckabee, et al. They empower the Zionist Israelis and literally have the same eschatological goals.
Here we go desperately trying to deflect from the Jew problem. What do Christian ‘Zionists’ ever get politically that is not what the Jew wants ?? Answer - nothing.
You guys just keep arguing and running around in circles. If you studied in depth the jewish-Neanderthal DNA connections that would give you the light to follow.
If there is a Jewish-Neanderthal DNA connection, that would be because of European DNA. What you think of as 'Jew' are mostly Europeans.
Partly true. But Israel's agents, especially the Conmen who control the Fed and Money creation, of the Too Big (kosher) to Fail thieving persuasion, have insinuated themselves inside the political, corporate and financial centers.
In so doing the great American Engine is in desperate need of a rebuild.
Absolutely the Empire needs a rebuild, but you seem to forget that 'Jews' were considered subhuman in the US until after 1945. Finance in America is controlled by all kinds of men and women who crave money and power.
Not having lived pre 1945, I have no recollection, but the treating of everyone else as less than animals could engender a bit of off-putting.
any why does the USA do that??? because the USA is controlled by the jew...
So why did you tell Denis "Well Done"?
Why is this thought exchange found under Denis' silly criticism of Russia?
FWIW: Israel has been trying to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians approaching 100 years now. Why is Russia's quest to eliminate all Kiev Nazis held to a "higher standard"?
Denis pulled a stunt on me. His original post was first this morning - he simply posted a ".". I was replying to that. then shortly after, he edited that.
Sneaky Denis.
Ah, sneaky guy isn't he.
Lol, John.
All my fault again.
Sneaky indeed. I too was miffed at your "well done" reply as you and I most nearly agree on most topics... Chip
My comment got 40 likes, Chip.
So you call them sneaky, too?
😂
So Denis is a Jew?
Playing right into DHDH’s narrative.
It is getting harder and harder to give a thought about Jews. Even Norman Finkelstein.
I look back at my own transformation and I can only say that the Jews did this to themselves.
Settle down, Goy.
When you're done shining my shoes, you can wash my car.
😂
Lol, Victor.
You must know by now that I start with one sentence, then build from there. If you had been first...
Sneeky? haha. Who, moi?
I would like Trump to lob missiles at Israel for breaking the truce.
People may call it the fallacy of the hindsight but I think once the Zionists set their goals and methods the oath for genocide and destruction was clear. Maybe the Holocaust/Nazis gave it a clear benefit and allowed to grow beyond any control from outside - I may agree to that. But Apartheid was clearly the goal thus ethnic cleansing were about to happen.
Thanks for your ongoing support, my good bestest ally.
haha.
Russia and China both continue to support Iran. Just quietly, physically, diplomatically and like grownups not like pubescent armed thugs as USRAEL.
@BillLawson
I'm curious, what do you concern trolls do after the war, is there a good retirement plan? Did you put enough away or will you need to find a new conflict?
They will just go to the troll farms and try to ferment another disaster that they can benefit from
@Chevrus
A large % of them are programs in a troll SERVER farm these days, not meat sacks needing a per diem.
Increasingly so it would seem. Humans are no longer the primary generators of content….prepare accordingly…whatever that means in this day and age.
It has not. The Russians and Chinese are grownups and know how to hold their cards close to their chests. No-one fears the US, they just hate it.
What support have Russia and China provided exactly? Real evidence, please, not rumors.
It would take a whole page to list what Russia and China have done for Iran. In short, though, information and air defense. Without China's Beidou satellite system, Iran's missiles would be much less accurate, and Russia's ManPads brought down a few helicopters and clipped an F-15, maybe brought one down.
What Russia and China were supposed to do here was not sending some MANPADS, they were supposed to do what they did in 1950 for Korea, i.e. enter the war directly with their own aviation.
Mature political leadership favours accommodation through diplomacy. It is a proof of intelligence trying to avoid a military confrontation.
Specially in the case of China the divergence of development in all domains make it logical to avoid conflict or in any case postpone it. In a few more decades the superiority of China will be appalling.
Supposed according to whom?
According to historical precedent and due to the strategic necessity.
If Iran falls, Russia is cooked, and then China too.
Thus it should be defended as their own territory.
Also, isn't it strange that in 1950 the US was the only one with nukes -- the USSR had only done its first successful test less than a year prior and had no serious deliverable arsenal yet, China was a decade away from its own first test -- and yet the USSR and China went to fight directly for Korea.
Meanwhile today Russia alone has nuclear dominance over the US, together with China it is no contest. And yet they are both acting as if they have no nukes at all...
Now, whoever said such a thing?
Russia actually sold/gave one of its SU models and either sold/gave an S300, maybe an S500 or S550. Iranians are training in Moscow on those systems, but it takes a couple of years to be really proficient.
Frankly, I don't recall Soviet pilots or airplanes fighting in Korea, but I do know there were Chinese.
Evidence, please, not rumors and wishful thinking
The Iranians developed their own Bavar-373 precisely because Russia stalled them on the S-300 deliveries, and that was a decade ago.
There were plenty of Soviet pilots flying in the Korean war.
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**Yes, Soviet pilots flew in the Korean War, operating MiG-15 jets marked as North Korean or Chinese aircraft.** [nationalmuseum.af](https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196389/soviet-pilots-over-mig-alley/)
## Historical Context
The Soviet Union provided MiG-15 fighters to North Korea and China starting in late 1950, but North Korean pilots initially struggled against UN jets. Stalin then deployed Soviet air regiments, with pilots flying under North Korean People's Army Air Force (KPAAF) or Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) markings to maintain deniability. These missions focused on "MiG Alley" near the Yalu River, where Soviets downed hundreds of UN aircraft. [en.wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_the_Korean_War)
## Operational Details
Soviet pilots wore Chinese uniforms, used pseudonyms, and spoke only Korean (or Chinese) phrases on radio—though US pilots often heard Russian. They avoided coastal flights to prevent capture and bailed out over friendly territory if shot down. All MiG-15s carried North Korean or Chinese insignia, not Soviet ones. [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/comments/tggken/korean_war_question/)
## Impact and Cover-Up
Soviet fliers achieved significant success, reportedly shooting down 142–1,106 UN planes, outmatching early US jets until the F-86 Sabre arrived. The USSR denied involvement until post-Cold War archives confirmed it; earlier, they claimed only advisory roles. [en.wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley)
Hi Tedder. It's an uncontested historical fact that there were Russian pilots defending North Korea during the Korean War, mate. 👍
Why would they do something that stupid when Iran is defeating the Ameraelis without such involvement by China or Russia? The world has changed since 1950 as Iran demonstrates and allies can assist in many important ways without entering the war directly.
If Iran was truly able to fight off the Ameraelis, Tehran would not have been carpet bombed.
But it was.
To our friend GM, full escalation is not stupid. "Annihilation Rocks! Hold my beer!"
Why? Iran doesn't need their help and doesn't want it.
Please explain how widening the conflict would achieve "something different". Exactly what is it you think would change?
Thats only possible if Iran agrees to that. But they not even allowed Russia to use their bases in support of Syria.
Why is it not relevant that Iran i a very proud nation that has built its industry and military almost indigenously and wants to fight on its own to deserve its rightful place in the world? Even if Russia and China were willing to do what they did in Korea or Vietnam, I doubt Iran would agree. They think differently from our expectations.
Don't feed the troll.
Specifics ? Details ? Particulars ?
Your page is short, Tedder.
Pffft, missed the UN vote huh?
But, my fav are the decoys China sold to them. You´re clueless GM.
The military experts I read say that Russia and China are providing intelligence as well as weapons support. Why would they not? They cannot afford to let Iran fall because the terrorist Ameraelis would be after them next.
There is very little real evidence for anything in war from anyone but we can use our common sense and our knowledge of military history and reach sensible conclusions.
Iran has borders with Azerbaijan and Pakistan and it is not hard for the Russians and Chinese to back up Iran in a physical capacity as well as satellite access for intelligence and information.
>The military experts I read say
Would that be the same alt-media grifters that were saying four years ago that the AFU is completely defeated and all the was left was the mopping up, ten spent the next several years confidently predicting a grand Russian offensive coming any moment, which never happened?
Ukraine is defeated but Nato is still arming them and sending them to their deaths.
once the sanctions failed, Russia won the SMO - now it is just a matter of time..
just like once the Iran "decapitation" failed, Iran won...
T’fuck you talking about man? Russia and China are supposed to immediately jump in? Ever heard the phrase don’t interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake? And it’s pretty obvious that Iran’s air defense system is not bad at all. Good enough to shoot down advanced US fighters and call checkmate! I have a slightly different perspective - Russia doesn’t care about the Ukraine SMO being protracted. Why would they? They control the battlefield and the initiative. Grind Ukraine down and as an added bonus they get to see the collective west deplete both armaments and money, plus deindustrialization and an energy crisis to boot. Putin is probably chortling into his vodka. This is the best thing that could have happened for Russia and China.
Iran uses BeiDuo for its military navigation and ISR, and was given access to GLONASS for this war. Wreckages of "Shaheds" built with parts with Russian serial numbers and Russian text on them were found at various US bases. Russia sold Iran a bunch of low frequency radars before this war even started. You can say that Russia and China could've done more to support Iran, but to say that they didn't support Iran at all is a bald-faced lie.
Russia, Iran's "loyal and trusted ally", has made it quite clear they would provide whatever Iran needs WHEN and IF Iran requested it. Iran has not, as far as we know, made any such request.
The fact is that, excepting the governments directly concerned, no one, including yourself, knows.
It is amazing how people can suppose something to be the case and then go a further step and pretend to be dammed sure about their assumptions.
targeting info and missile accuracy improvements to start...
The Chinese are reportedly involved in the ceasefire deal. I had thought this would be the outcome that Iran may eventually agree with.
Keeping Iran friendly, intact and stable is essential for Ruusias' Caucasus region southern belly. Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey need to be kept at bay. A chaotic and/or splintered Iran is a nightmare. Also its' a BRICS linchpin. If an increasing percentage of oil/gas is traded outside the petrodollar the US will weaken into financial and societal collapse.
Yet, you somehow know about it.
China too.
It appears that China pressured Iran to accept this.
And then Iran had no choice, especially with the prospect of Pakistan joining the war against them and eliminating the so far safe eastern sanctuary (notice that Pakistan stated earlier today that they will honor the mutual defense treaty with Saudi Arabia if called upon).
This is not a victory for Iran in any way, because the US has not been evicted from the Middle East and the war can and will restart at any moment, but from again unfavorable to them position.
Not sure where getting Pakistan would attack Iran. Think the opposite is true,
Pakistan signed a mutual defense treaty with Saudi Arabia last year. Like the one Russia signed with North Korea.
The Pakistani nuclear program was also funded by Saudi Arabia, and it is a badly kept secret that Saudi Arabia's Royal Strategic Missile Forces are not merely equiped with IRBMs from China, but they have nuclear warheads for them coming from Pakistan too.
Saudi Arabia was about to get hit really hard by Iran in the next round of escalation.
Pakistan would erupt in civil war. KSA is has been, Iran is the future.
" Like the one Russia signed with North Korea."
Notice: "brave" Putin signed one with a nuclear armed NK, but wont sign one with a nuclear free Iran. The reasons should be obvious.
see my reply to GM below on the consequences of KSA's co-belligerence.
" Pakistan stated earlier today that they will honor the mutual defense treaty with Saudi Arabia if called upon"
Note that all such Pakistani statements are irrelevant in law. On any neutrality analysis KSA is a co-belligerent, otherwise (for example) it would have had to intern/expel all US personnel for the duration. (Even on likely an over-broad interpretation, Iran doesn't have matching bases in KSA)
That co-belligerence invalidates any and all defensive alliances. As they say, the clue is in the name. ;) So Pakistani intervention would simply place it on the wrong side of a war of aggression, irrespective of its clever, amusing, and understandable posturing.
Ha ha! Nice try to reproduce Western talking points (propaganda). The SMO had two purposes. 1) To stop the invasion of Donbas by the Banderite fascists; 2) to drive the Ukrainians to the negotiating table. Both missions were accomplished, no matter how many tactical events occurred or didn't occur. In fact, the war would have ended in April, 2022, if not for the West (Boris Johnson) sabotaging the Ankara agreements.
The SMO apparently moves too slowly for the likes of GM and others. But there's method to this operation which goes far beyond what's visible on the frontlines.
For one thing the ensuing sanctions allowed Russia to become more self-sufficient, clipped the wings of the oligarchs, forced Russian society to become more innovative both industrially and technologically, and gave a much needed injection to its military-industrial compamles which was kind of stagnating before.
What Russian military and economic planners learnt through 4 years of the SMO, with all the ups and downs was invaluable.
On top of it they gained much of the Donbass, liberated mariupol, formed the coveted land bridge to Crimea and are, even now getting more depth of their buffer zones.
On top of it, I'd say the one thing Russia was really weak on was their PR, the ability to explain their positions and fashion a narrative to compete with the western one. This is still work in progress, as well know, but they are starting to wisen up about the importance of narrative.
In addition the coupling that occurred between China and Russia, despite centuries of distrust will pay dividends for decades to come, and indeed, this alliance - thanks to two committed leaders - putin and Xi - is now the bedrock of the rising BRICS.
As for how and when the SMO will end, that is hard to guess as of yet. I keep trying to envision an end point given the different parties and the intransigent Europeans but so far, without success. I think this may be a period of "waiting". Something will change in the European consensus in the near future - I just don't see it yet.
"On top of it, I'd say the one thing Russia was really weak on was their PR, the ability to explain their positions and fashion a narrative to compete with the western one."
I suggest the main failing here is an inability by Russia to descend to the puerile levels of propaganda employed in the west. If one actually reads or listens to what they say their arguments are simply and cogently expressed. Unfortunately, they are simply not allowed to be heard in the West (and even if they were I fear they would anyway be beyond the literary comprehension of a dumbed-down audience.)
So, it is no wonder the Russians don't bother with propaganda directed at the West.
But why did Russia needed sanctions for this..
They did not "need" sanctions; sanctions just gave them impetus to become self-sufficient. In Cuba when the USSR fell and ceased supplying oil and fertilizers, the lack of fertilizer was the greatest shock. But, Cubans turned to organic, sustainable methods for farming and gardening and managed to feed their people healthy food.
Both countries are better for these challenges.
@Proterran
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I would make analogies to the RF & Iran concentrating on the spoiler move of too many cheap drones to deal with + enough unstoppable hypersonic missiles rather than trying to play a hopeless game of catch up to "achieve aerial dominance" & fight Western traditional air power by building out scads of very expensive 6th generation + fighters.
Instead of working hard to catch up with the world's best funded, most scientifically advanced Madison Avenue marketing bred propaganda, lie & spin machine, futily contesting endless bullshit already pounded into the headspace of the empire's serfs world wide, they just told the physically verifiable truth. And didn't waste a ton of money & skull sweat on trying to "get their competing brand message out there". Net results: USA/Ukraine won the PR war among the duller sort of Western people, who have either now gotten bored and forgotten that the Ukraine war is even a thing still? And in many cases, live in states which lack the industry/manpower to contest with the RF even if their people are brainwashed enough to go there. While RF merely developed a reputation for not LYING egregiously among those capable of rational thought. All that while retaining the backing of 80%+ of their own people, who are rather hard to lie to effectively anyhow, after a cultural inoculation by 70 years of USSR boilerplate level propaganda, lies & spin.
Sun Tzu for the 21 st century all around?
The way the SMO (Severe Military Operations) moves can be explained in one sentence:
"It's the economy, stupid."
What good is it for Russia to pour all its resources into facing an economic crisis stemming from war spending?
It would be a Pyrrhic victory.
It's better to wage a slow and sustained war of attrition, while strangling the capabilities of adversaries.
That's what Putin has been doing since he appointed Andrei Belousov to the Ministry of Defense.
That's a good point you make, one I also consider as part of the overall "Package" of an attrition war.
I'd go further and suggest that a sudden end to the war and removal of sanctions is something Russia is not ready for as people are likely to go on spending sprees again, even as corruption comes back with a vengeance.
Support for this point is to be found in Putin's most recent talk where he admonished against companies - and the state itself - getting high on the hog due to excess profits from rising oil prices. What goes up in a hurry can come down just as fast, he seemed to say. So he continues to advocate for prudence in spending, keeping in mind that the "good days" don't tend to last (whem, oh when can we hear such a speech from ANY American leader? we do hear sometimes from smarter company executives and Think Tankers, but their words are quoted and rarely followed).
The SMO provided also a once in a lifetime opportunity for Putin to get rid of the more sclerotic layers in the military, specifically and visibly elevating those who had experience in the SMO and are more battle hardened and understand what military strategy/good tactics are.
Your last point about Belousiov's appointment is right on the money. It shows intent for organizing Military/Industrial/Commercial segments for the long term. I want a Belousov for the US - wouldn't this be nice?
Alas, we are NOT allowed real competence at the top. That's the real reason why we are all despondent. I mean those of us who tend to think things through a little not the GM corn-pop slingers out there who thrive on visible incompetence, as it gives them endless talking points.
4, going on 5 years and no real solution to the drone problem. Yet tank and BMP production continues to ramp up. Tanks and BMP's which cannot operate on the current battlefield without a solution to the drone problem.
How many drones could be purchased for the cost of 1 T90. The MIC in Russia may be mostly state owned, but it doesnt mean that management is not intent on protecting their own turfs, just like in the US.
4 years in and no systematic and pervasive answer to drones. No sign of large scale experimentation by brigade or division sized units in fighting in new way with new kinds of organizations and equipment. Innovation seems stuck at underfunded low level commands and there are even stories of how those experimenters are punished when they are found out, especially if what they do is successful but outside the MOD's approved approaches.
Whatever happens in Iran, I wonder if the effect in Russia wont be to shine a light on the Russian effort and shout FAILURE
I would think that the Russian people are glad they are not taking the hits Iran is taking.
I wouldnt be surprised if total Russian casualties and economic costs have not exceeded those Iran has experienced. And if the terms turn out to be closer to Irans version of the 10 point plan, they will even end up with a new revenue source in the form of tolls to pay for reconstructions.
I'm not being totally serious of course. I get your point and agree. Putins whole SMO is designed to conduct war without disturbing the home front. The whole Lyndon Johnson approach...and we know how that turned out.
I think Russia and China are waiting the US as we seem to be self distrucsting. That's what I see. Time is not on US side.
You speak as if the "solution" to the drone problem is the easiest thing out there. Like hell it is. Cheap drone swarms and even single baba yaga mother ships are the kind of battle front reshapers that take many years to adjust to.
Also you are quite wrong aboutthe RUF not making advances in dron technology, be it in EW, fiber optic cabling, longer range and remote viewing. What's the name now of that drone whiz unit that we keep hearing about and the Ukrainians dread?
No, I don't think the solution is the "easiest thing out there". The answer will be a combination of technologies and large scale changes in doctrine, organization and equipment for line infantry units from Platoon through Division.
I have no argument with: "making advances in drone technology, be it in EW, fiber optic cabling, longer range and remote viewing". I completely agree, we see it everyday. But all of that is just spreading another layer of Peanut Butter on the same sandwhich.
It is reactive adaptation not a complete rethink of how to conduct operations from smallest unit all the way up.
Militaries are of course, very conservative. The Russian MOD and MIC both have vested interests in war being fought the way it was. Huge industrial enterprises are at risk if suddenly the status quo were replaced by something new and different. Colonels and Generals will see their careers at risk if the world of platoons, companies, battalions and big arrows all change into something else.
My argument is that the Russian Army should select a few Brigades or Division sized units and their area of operations and give them a blank check (more or less) to restructure everything: TOE, fighting doctrine, support echelons, kill chain, coms, logistics. They should be given access to industrial capacity and engineering talent to experiment and those units needs to be insulated as much as possible from interference by their immediate command who in many cases will have incentives to see them fail.
I completely agree with you, it wont be easy. But at this point the Russian effort is largely a failure. And maybe that the way they want it.
Did you forget denazification?
No, if you mean me, I didn't. It's just that this a project for the longer term. No one can de-nazify in a day or a year or even five. Changing a culture that's become deeply embedded with propaganda is the hardest thing to do (just ask how we can denazify Israel. Cure it from its genocidal tendencies. I see no way out of a complete defeat, which can only happen as America's fortunes as a protective shield decline much more markedly than they had so far. Though to be fair, Iran just gave this decline a major boost).
Nazism is a poisonous ideology that acts much like a virulent virus, one that can result in slow growing but ultimately malignant cancers. There are antidots, but the virus keeps mutating into still more nefarious but better hidden forms. Periodically re-emerging from latency into new outbreaks of pestilence. This is one of my favorite analogies I hope to expand on in due course (time being in short supply at the moment).
The world needs de jewification
@Tedder130
Does BoJo get a lifetime protective detail or will his sorry ass be hanging in the wind when angry Ukrainian survivors come looking for some payback?
Could have should have would have,
OFF TOPIC DRIBBLE.
Here we go again. The first post on a new thread entirely about the Iran war is to blame only Russia-Russia-Russia for the unprovoked war of aggression unleashed against Iran by the US and Israel. Denis is almost certainly part of Team Nafo's professional propaganda group operating daily on this blog. Along with likely co-workers GM, Elena, and a few tag-along true believing me-too types, imho. Same old repetetive slop. Same group action. every.single.time.
Why not say: "Canada: The Big Letdown" (?). Canada isn't even fighting its own existential war right now like Russia is, yet Canada does absolutely nothing for Iran. Supports the US, in fact. At least Russia and China today VETOED a UN Security Council Resolution that tried to blame Iran for the war and require Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz.
It's sad to see the thread hijacked by such asinine drivel. Good on you for trying to revive it.
Indeed.
Canada is waiting for mid-terms.
Controlled opposition we call it. There is of course a connection even if it's not entirely visible. No two things are completely alike but also all battles in our currently ultra-connected world have ties underground.
Still - what the heck, it tempted me into yet another tl;dr
A drone war on a steppe, a missile war across an 8th of Asia.
Russia lacks leadership. Putin is weak and corrupted by Zionism. As is Medvedev.
Both Russia and the US are trapped.
Sure buddy... Chip
Sooooo….Doom?!
TL;DR?
Putin can't touch Zelensky, he promised ex Israeli PM Bennett (an Epstein friend) that fellow Jew Zelensky wouldn't be harmed. Why anyone would remove maintaining that strategic ambiguity in an existential war in a promise to an irrelevant foreign country is one for the historians to analyse.
Note that the version of that event that we were given was that Bennett begged Putin to spare Zelensky, and Putin graciously agreed.
But we weren't there to listen to what exactly was said.
What may just as well have happened is that Bennett ordered Putin not to touch Zelensky, because Zelensky belongs to a certain untouchable group.
Which one it was matters enormously.
Please provide a link.
Putin plays a different game. He actually needs Zelensky, the incompetent, to stay right where he is. Shooting his foot over and over.
There ARE competent people among the Ukrainian military leadership. IT's better for Russia to keep them in the shadow - something for the day after.
The internet is a perfect example of the tragedy of the commons.
the tragedy of the commons = negroes
like Plato said - perfect Democracy invariably tends to degenerate into populism, which is Rule by the Mob.
Doesn't quite a pply to the Internet, but there are some similarities, if we look at comment boards.
I used the commons analogy because today anyone can set up a website, channel, substack etc.) and put themselves out there as some kind of expert, which also applies to the comment sections. Some of it is good analysis no doubt, but you have to wade through a lot of nonsense to get to it, and unless you're working to an exacting standard that requires multiple reliable sources and some degree of confidence in the author(s) qualifications, you basically end up in an echo chamber where opinion holds sway over fact. That's an entirely separate issue from intentional disinformation which is also an obstacle if you're trying to discern the truth, whatever that might be.
I really tried my best to make this sh*t make sense but it's so mind-bending stupid and works with childish assumptions that have no base in reality whatsoever.
You might want to read it over and allow yourself some critical thinking?
So as it is now it is not made you pass with a sufficient grade, sorry but spitting out rubbish brings no added value to any discussion.
@Frank Sailor
It's a fine line between using the "block" feature enough to remove troll detritus & read more efficiently without also blocking accounts of those who merely have different ideas/information sources.
That being said, I already blocked a good number of those account names "thatguy" mentioned- Now I have more time to read useful material instead of wading knee deep through dull witted, repetitive troll shit.
"Look at what the US and Israel did to Iran on the first day. They liquidated most of the leadership and top generals on day one, gone. "
Exactly the point people have been telling you for years - So what?
They were replaced. Decapitations maybe work on tiny militia, not on properly organised armies.
Ridiculous.
We've been over this a dozen times. Russia is pursuing its war the way Russia wants to. This is not up to you or me. Your continual whining about it isn't going to change anything.
That wont stop them from trying….maybe their cubicle farm is in LVIV?!
I also wrote something about Russia. They have no off-ramp like this.
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Whoo... Nice to be able to come up for air after that Denis/GM illogic. Thanks!
Read the title. You’re retarded. Goodnight.
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Blocked that hedgehog buggering Canadian & moving on now.
Exactly right. I saw it happen in real time. First post was about five words long. The final, edited post by "Denis" is a long essay blaming only Russia for the latest unprovoked war of aggression against Iran started by US and Israel. And the hijacking worked exactly as planned. These aren't your average run of the mill "trolls". They operate in a coordinated, organized fashion.
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Cry me a river, Billy.
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Brasil aqui
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The ceasefire will be derailed by the usual suspects in Tel Aviv.
Interesting though, to see the War of Perception evolve as much as the real War.
Or full-blown Supporter.
supporter of an illegal genocidal chicken swinging sin merchant HQ???
Uhhh… no.
Just like the situation in Ukraine, where Zelensky is saving Russia from the traitors in the Kremlin by refusing to sign up to whatver treasonous for Russia deal those slimebags have agreed to with the Americans, we can hope that in this situation the Israelis will be true to their rogue self and will derail this before it can do too much damage to Iran.
Israel stated that they refuse to stop the attacks on Lebanon, and struck there in the last couple hours.
But supposedly one of the Iranian conditions was the cessation of all attacks on Lebanon.
So Iran would have to throw Hezbollah under the bus now in order for this to hold...
Damn, more pollution of the discussion. Please go away. You aren't helping with your constant whine.
Well, I'm out of here now.
Indeed. I don't know anymore what to believe and what not. The only thing I am sure of is that there is something very wrong with the president of the USA. Simplicius nailed it down: a spoiled manchild.
I keep saying that: he is merely a social engineering tool. Fostering false hope on one side and hatred on the other….
I agree. I was thinking about what happens if, God forbid, the war continues until the midterms and the democrats sweep Congress. Would they end the insanity and impeach Trump? Maybe but I don’t think so. Congress is totally spineless. The democrats would be no better. Well, we already know that Vance was the only person in Trump’s inner circle to vociferously oppose the war. The chairman of the joint chiefs thought it was crazy but said it’s not his job to offer a position on it. What a fuckin wuss. And if it continued until the next presidential election? Let’s say we get president Newsom and Vice President Cortes. They will be cursed just as Obama was with Iraq and Afghanistan. Democrats are terrified of being seen as weak on defense and are almost as servile to Israel as the republicans. So it would probably continue. God how depressing.
You spelt “Jewish policy” wrong.
There is an obvious disconnect between Foreign Minister Araghchi's post and the declaration of the Iranian Supreme National Security Council.
Araghchi, typical diplomat (a fast disappearing species these days) refers politely to the 15 point US plan and the 10 point Iranian plan as being the basis for the negotiations (both of these documents were exchanged days ago but conveniently unearthed for the ceasefire).
The Supreme Council declaration rejoices of the forced acceptance by criminal America of the 10 point plan. No mention of the 15 point US plan.
Incidentally, based on press leaks, the 15 point US plan was all about Iran stopping its nuclear programme and giving up nuclear materials / ballistic missiles, freedom of navigation etc. while the Iranian 10 point plan was about US exiting Middle East, durable peace, Hormuz under Iranian-Oman control with reparations being levied on Gulf exports.
This ceasefire really looks like a one-bed-for-two-dreams situation.
And now Bibi has added a bulk-carrier dose of salt by saying that, of course, this ceasefire has got nothing to do with Lebanon (Gaza - or what is left of it - obviously does not even deserve to be mentioned).
Yes. Clean analysis! Diplomacy will not prevail. We have seen it in the ”truce” in Gaza - the killing, starving and destruction is going on as we speak.
The point plans mirror those for Ukraine - not even touching each other so what we can state as a matter of fact is that both US and Iran has issued a list of ”positions”. And we can be sure that the third party, the main inistigators, only has one position regarding Iran.
Israel has to be entirely dismantled and Zionists rounded up by the millions and put to work on prison farms with absolutely no 20th or 21st century technology.
True Jews such as those that have lived in peace in Iran for centuries, and for that matter, true Christians and true Muslims need to live without the threat of rabid Zionist supremacist ideology anywhere in the world, including in reunified Palestine.
As for Trump he has clearly joined the other living US presidents as a group of perverse treasonous criminals that deserve to face a public hanging.
The Straits were not closed, except to US and its ally aggressors and it is still closed to them. And the US has betrayed every deal and shitrael has never honoured a ceasefire in its existence so why would anyone believe anything Frump says?
The litmus test is whether the straits remain closed to the US and their allies/vassals. And if open, what the underlying financial transactions in play are. Toll or no toll? Yuan or US$?
The straits will not be open to the US or Israel but then as Trump has said, the US does not need Middle Eastern oil. That is not totally true but he can run with it if the problem is solved for the world in general.
Payments will be in Yuan. the petrodollar is just about dead.
Not sure if the payments will be in yuan. China doesn't want it to be a world currency, they keep a tight control on how much the yuan is worth. Which they can't if it is widely traded. They have always resisted spreading the yuan like that.
True but temporarily as a card to play
Somewhat ironic that the final attempts to extend the petrodollar is guaranteed to end it….ah well, the money mongers have likely already invested elsewhere….
Because this isn't a US initiative. Trump has been manoeuvred into being a mouthpiece. It was brokered by Pakistan with Turkey, Egypt supporting and China as guarantor. Iran's support is highly conditional. Their demand to negotiate with Vance seems to.have achieved more than they hoped for, at this stage anyway.
Trump has put forward what the Iranians presented some days ago. American remain ignorant because mainstream media did not touch the Iranian conditions as presented.
Pakistan is the middle man but is presenting what the Iranians have written.
Have you got more info about this Turkey Egypt and China being the guarantor ..thanks 🙏
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TG channel the Middle East Spectator. Timestamp 10.40 this morning.
https://openthemagazine.com/world/trump-drops-hint-did-china-secretly-broker-iran-ceasefire-deal
—❗️🇺🇸/🇨🇳/🇮🇷 BREAKING: The breakthrough in negotiations came as China promised to act as a guarantor that the U.S. would ‘accept at least some of Iran’s conditions’ mentioned in the 10-point framework during upcoming negotiations in Islamabad
As a gesture of goodwill, China vetoed a UN Security Council Resolution on the Strait of Hormuz earlier today, despite the crisis directly affecting China itself. – Sources
@Middle_East_Spectator
Still have to 😆 at this strategic blunder which has only provided an unprecedented geo-strategic leverage to Iran, China and Russia for the foreseeable future.
Israel is still a rabid wild card that will have to be put down if any ceasefire is to solidify into a lasting peace.
Yes, put down like a rabid jackal.
Communist "Iranians" in Europe are already saying they want the war to go on. They have been dancing wrapped in Israeli and US flags in front of the Iranian embassies. They laughed and cheered outside the embassies when Ayatollah Khamenei was killed. They shout "javid shah!", long live the shah, because the shah's son supports the US-Israeli attack. When real Iranians were celebrating Persian New Year, communists showed up to their gatherings to shout "javid shah!" at them as some sort of slogan.
When Trump wrote that "a civilization will die," they quickly turned that into, "Yes, kill the Muslim civilization in Iran!"
(Simplicius won't mention this, it contradicts his "lead the global south/global majority against the capitalist colonialist West!" fantasy, when all the communists except a handful like himself are on Washington's side against conservative Iran and conservative Russia.)
After the conservative revolution in Iran, throwing out the kleptocrats, the Soviet-backed communists went to Europe. They support the Mujahedin-e-Khalq, the MeK guerrilla, who killed bureaucrats and police officers. Khamenei's arm was permanently withered because of one of their bombs. The MeK were housed by Saddam Hussein in an army base, like a cult where the children grew up in isolation. They helped Hussein interrogate and torture war prisoners when he invaded Iran with U.S. aid. After 2003 the U.S. moved the MeK to a base in Albania. Courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer. They are the ones Mossad used to murder Iranian professors and technicians. The "Iranians who support Trump" online are either the communists in Europe or the communists in the MeK, whose only claim to being Iranian is that they can tweet in Farsi.
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I don't understand - how does the US and Israel still have enough ammo to continue bombing? How much have they used up and how is Israel still able to launch planes and stand off weaponry to bomb Iran? 🤔
They don't, that's the thing. That's why they asked for a ceasefire.
Today they were firing Tomahawks into Teheran. And several MQ-9s were shot down, likely dropping JDAMs.
The reported strikes today weren't all the voluminous either -- yes, they hit some bridges, but the number of strikes was much less overall. Likely a consequence of Iranian AD being pulled out of underground storage the last few days and US jets starting to go down.
They might be flying tactical aviation along some somewhat secured corridors, but you wouldn't be firing superexpensive, and at this point very scarce too, Tomahawks on the 38th day of a way in which you have supposedly long ago achieved total air supremacy. You would be flying heavy bombers, or at the very least tactical aviation to drop JDAMs directly, at 1/200th the cost.
This happened in the 12-day war too -- they ran out of ammo, they asked for ceasefire. Iran shou'dn't have agreed then, and it shouldn't have agreed now either.
Unless two things happened:
1) Trump threatened to use nukes, which is his only winning move left (and everybody knew that before the war even started -- the only way you can defeat Iran is using nukes, and not tactical ones, but strategic strikes)
2) The Chinese pressured Iran, as they are rumored to have done. And as I warned here several times before the war started -- China was always much more likely to pressure Iran to reopen the Hormuz strait than to help it win the war.
That lines up with how I understand this.
What I find really fascinating in the whole story is that US prepares China to be slaughtered in the exact same fashion it prepared Japan to be slaughtered 90 years ago, the whole freaking books were written that explain how precisely that have happened back then and would happen now… and yet China simply plays along and sleep-walks into major defeat around year 2029-2030. That story with Iran was obviously to make sure Iran would be ready to destroy Gulf states oil complexes when Trump (or, more likely, his successor) would destroy Iran's oil complexes — and China played right along by picking option that helps it now yet robs it of the future… just like it used its trump card, rare metals, now — when it could have kept it stashed for the use when it'll be really needed.
And while US with Trump as clown-who-doesn't-understand anything does that, ruthlessly and consistently… we see ZERO attempts on China side to do ANYTHING to prepare.
I mean: the final stage would obviously be military… with US sending all countries it could (Japan, Philipines, Australia, etc) to “soften” China, first, everyone knows that — and yet China doesn't even try to train its army! At least Russia had the galls to change the rules in a way that would probably mean that Korea would have an excuse to avoid that suicide attempt — yet China does nothing.
WTH? Does China really believe it may win military war with cargo ship? The whole thing is incredibly bizzare.
P.S. But yeah, have to admit: Trump is forced to declare victory with VERY weak cards — and yet… countries would either have to hail Trump as victor… or be excluded from oil deal. Who may afford that? I'm just surprised Simplicius couldn't see that: one may despise Trump and all these rivers of blood, Trump brings to the world… but to say that Trump doesn't have a plan… when Trump is doing what he was supposed to do brilliantly. Sigh.
Oh, if China goes into an attrition naval war with the US, it will win it with ease.
The US has no ship building capacity left, and at this point the Chinese navy has more ships. Plus it has the advantage of the home turf coast fighting ships that are far away from home. So even if they are trading blows and sinking each other's ships at 1:1 ratio, or even slightly unfavorable to China, the end result will be that the Americans have no Navy left and won't be able to reconstitute it, while the Chinese with their 200:1 advantage in ship building capacity will return to dominate the seas in just a few years.
The mistake here is thinking that the US will just stupidly enter such a war of attrition. Underestimating the enemy is something one should never do. And the Americans are not stupid.
The only way to deal with them is to realize what the mistake of the natives in North America and Australia was. In retrospect it is clear that their policy should have been to exterminate everyone who tries to land on their shores before they can get a stable foothold. With zero exceptions and zero mercy. That wasn't done because they didn't understand the nature of the threat and we know what happened after that. But we do understand the nature of the threat today. So the policy of the Eurasian countries should be to keep the Anglo-Saxons in the Western hemisphere, with zero tolerance to any incursions outside of it. That means all bases have to go, and no US ships should be allowed to approach Eurasia. Break all diplomatic relationships too, and shut down all travel, because even just those interactions have an undermining, corrupting and corrosive effect. But that is just unthinkable at the moment, and even fighting back the active process of encirclement is not something they can bring themselves to start to doing, especially in China.
A big part of it is the immense historical arrogance of the Chinese. They have a long history of just absorbing invaders into their own culture, which they mistakenly think is primarily because of the innate supremacy of that culture, and not because of their superiority in numbers. The Japanese invasion of the 20th century, which was with genocidal intent, did spook them, but clearly hasn't forced them to shake off that conviction, because in the end their superior numbers prevailed in that case too. They just can't quite conceive of a threat that they won't be able to neutralize the way they always have.
The other part is plain old vicious short-sighted greed. War is bad for business, therefore we will avoid it at all cost, no matter how much our geostrategic position sinks.
P.S. The Russians have the latter problem even worse than the Chinese, but at least in terms of threat perception they are much more attuned to reality, because they barely escaped in WWII and never fully recovered from it. The Chinese lost about the same absolute number of people, but proportionally the damage was much less, and they did fully recover from it
Again: you are missing the forest for the trees. US is demonstrating, right now, in a real time, how much powerful Navy would help in the next war — and we may see that it wouldn't help much at all. Simple and cheap drone boats can be used to make any narrow strip of water impassable.
The only way to solve that issue it to subjugate population on the shores and islands. Now look on map, notice which islands are there near US and near China, notice how US already starts plans to solve that issues (Canada — or, rather, shores or Canada, Greenland, Cuba… why do you think Trump already starts preparing to take over all these) while China… China, again, does nothing.
Russia is preparing, BTW, just geography puts it in much worse position than either China or US.
It's really crazy:
1. Russia recognized these issues years, maybe even decades ago, but was simply not in position to do much, it doesn't have enough resources to address these issues except in a very narrow strip around itself.
2. US have realized that they they are running of time couple of years ago and started preparations in the crazy expedited mode.
3. China… is sleepwalking as if it really believes “international law” would have any meaning without actively used military power in next 5 or 10 years.
Are they really that stupid or just that arrogant?
Approximately $40 trillion in debt for weapons! Weapons weapons everywhere! Just listen to Trumpenstein, he will tell you how amazing the US army is, endless capacity. The hugest most baddest army in the universe.
You ran out of steam? Surely you meant "in the history of the universe, bigly".
...in the universe since the bigly bang 💥
While special needs Hegseth gloats about it and chides senior officers about how they don’t do enough pushups 😂
And the cool part is, we're in debt for those trillions to the banksters, who not ONLY create the loaned money out of thin air, but also OWN the weapons manufacturing companies, AND - get this, they're SO awesome - create all wars under false pretenses MAINLY so they CAN "loan" this money to us... as well as, usually, to the folks we're fighting! Such a neato package, with a bow on top! Our true leaders. Smartest guys in the room.
Imagine what could be done, just with the materials that they waste. Steel, lead, copper, brass, tungsten, the oil being burnt up, jet fuel, ply shuttering for concrete casting, solid rocket fuel that could be used for fertilizer...endless self enriching feeding frenzy.
They're not really loaning money, they just tell the government to order really expensive weaponry on your behalf and tax you for it.
Every good American knows it is for your security and safety.
There is always going to be a money printing press, since there are a million extra people on earth every five days. It just really helps if you own it, in case you want to print some for yourself ;)
Only until they run into Madame Guillotine. Which, like the Bourbons, they are literally incapable of seeing coming... (for two independent reasons, arrogance and ignorance) ;)
It's interesting how Thomas Jefferson wanted guillotines installed in every village square (until, as Ambassador to France, he himself had a lucky escape iirc due to a tip-off...).
Well actually they don't. That's why they accepted a ceasefire. The failed SO in Isfahan caused the wheels to fall of their best laid plans. It proved that only stand-off attacks were feasible. They had the option of cleaning out strategic weapon stock in Asia and Europe or nuking the Iranians. It seems they chose to de-escalate instead. Let's hope it sticks. I'm sure the Iranians don't hold out too much hope.
Well well well looks like Iran lost the second Epstein war. Total Israeli victory. Iran a nation of philosophers? Pshhh a nation of dupes more like. I doubt they'll learn the five hundredth time when they get bombed out of nowhere again. "No bro trust me, 10 point plan, it won't be like the last 2 million times where the US renegs. You can trust Israel too, look at Gaza". I guess the president finally got the national army to make the IRGC stand down.
And just when Western interceptors were on their most minimum ever, literally stockpiles with dates like February 2026... barely holding on and Iran decides to puss out. Typical. Must've been a run on tampons due to sanctions I'm sure. I guess killing an Ayatollah only costs 40 days of pain. Cheap price.
Thankfully there is no ceasefire for Gaza. They are technically the instigators of this whole fiasco. October 7... I mean I'm sure now every Arab and Muslim hates Palestinians for bringing this chaos and destruction. Every lebanese, Iranian and yemeni have a right to be angry at Palestinians, including the GCC. They've brought ruin to the region.
As for the US, what a glorious operation. Iran has been set back by decades on all fronts. Not just material but wisdom. Senior scientists and officials wiped out. AI programs gone. They can stay a relatively docile fourth-rate power. Missiles, drones, naval mines sure.... but no AI. No advanced software. No advanced circuitry. This hopefully will lead to no nuclear program as without those you can't have the other. In the chaos CIA has infiltrated nearly everything.
As new Iranian personnel backfill the ranks many of them are already CIA-turned. So we just need time for them to establish roots, get more intel on their area of responsibility and once we have that data its go time again.
Very foolish of Iran. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, well unlike George Bush if you're Iran you can be fooled twice, three times, even fifty.
PizzaHut in Tehran by Christmas. Its over. I wonder if they'll have a saffron-topped pizza?
Nah its over bro. Believe me it shouldn't be but its over. The second Iran accepted a ceasefire, no matter how one sided, it was signalling that it was the weaker party. And the new generation in the Middle East definitely feel no kin towards the Palestinians, they see the economic turmoil they bring to the region. At least Israel attracts Nvidia and Microsoft. Remote work to contractors in the region who have high IQs. All Gaza did was disrupt the entire Middle Eastern market, you know it, you see it. Nothing changed for Gaza, it got worse and everyone had to deal with economic chaos in some kinetic manner.
Lol, who are you, the Oracle of Delphi?
Nah I'm just the guy who says whats obvious. Like my homeboy Freud once said "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".
Lol, you forgot to mention the elephant in the room. Iran has shown their control of the Straits is unassailable, isn't that obvious enough for you? Perhaps you need a few days of R and R while the AI is reprogrammed with more up to date data.
That's like saying the US has shown its control of Panama... after losing the white house, the president, the pope, and half its armed forces.
Awesome. And they wonder why Resistards can never seem to ever be "winning". Like I said before, they'll see a chinese manpads blow up before hitting its target and clap calling it a victory.
LOL quoting a Jewish fraudster in a vain attempt at appearing to be intellectual.
Shhh, this is a discussion for people who read books. Not people who think youtube is a source. Grr are you an Arab by chance? Your disdain for reading is telling.
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Troll for sure. No one can be this ignorant and uninformed.
LOL says the flat earther. Hey did you see the Artemis II launch? Did it shatter your world that the earth wasn't flat? Or are you going to continue claim we live in a flat donut or something?
LOL
Really??? The world's not flat? Damn!
It's actually a donut. Keep up, Victor.
Gosh, I didn't know that either! Must be age.
Perhaps you missed the latest edition of Flat Earth Monthly? The theoretical physicists that made the discovery even sprinkled cinnamon and castor sugar on it.
I'm damn glad of that to be honest - who wants a flat donut?
I would I would! I love donuts and don't give a fk if they're flat or fluffy.
The problem with a flat one is that there's no room for a filling...
Artemis II launch - billions to send a negro to the moon....
"Astronauts - to the moon! Hahahahaha."
You mad that America, while fighting a war, can send man to the moon? You do realize in the 70s America was fighting the Vietnam war, sent man to the moon, built the internet and perfected global commerce all in the same time right? Its called winning. You know what is "not winning"? Iran and its cuck out. At least Israel took the time to wipe out Hezbollah families.
Hehehe.
Oh god another flat earther...
Jesus Simp... not a good look when these are the constituents of your commentators. Not a good look at all.
You'll be surprised.. I've gone on some sites and they literally regurgitate western msm as facts even if it's totally contradictory from one report to the next. They really believe that they lost all those planes to a 'rescue' operation
Yup, your handle says it all.
Don't shoot the messenger. Cope and seethe all you want but deep down you know its true. Its basically saying "yeah this fight is NOT existential, we don't need to go full beast mode". Do you think Israel is thinking like that?
Like your prophet says (I assume you're a mohammedan from THAT name) don't pursue knowledge for worldy gain. Use it to humble yourself.
Presumptuous western twat. Utter drivel.
I have no crystal ball and cannot predict the future.
I will just say that it appears to me that your analysis is plain wrong.
You don't need a crystal ball. Past behaviour is a good indicator of future behaviour. But hey if you need to lull yourself into a sense of accomplishment that's cool. I'll come find you when the US renegs, doesn't pay any reparations and had spent the last 2 weeks rearming faster than Iran can. After all this is the SECOND Epstein war... why wouldn't there be a third?
ahh, the unit 8200 retard advanced stupid is back...
It's a joke right? I mean, propagandists are usually covert in at least SOME way...