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abcdefg's avatar

So much going on, and maybe first in today. Where are you Denis? Victor?

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Victor's avatar

Here! I tripped over the cat trying to be first.

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

Is the kitty all right?

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Victor's avatar

She's sulking, as am I.

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abcdefg's avatar

Haha, you were slow off the mark today. Thanks Kitty :)

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Denis's avatar

lol

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Denis's avatar

Nice effort, Victor.

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

Victor, maybe if you spent more time in the gym you wouldn't have to cede first place to the B-team. :/

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Gisela's avatar

You don't know cats. They are always the A-team.

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bemused's avatar

In ancient Egypt they were worshipped like kings. They've never forgotten....

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Denis's avatar

Congratulations, Alphabet

You made it where few have been before.

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abcdefg's avatar

Now I know how Edmund Hillary felt.

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grr's avatar

And Adam too.

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Dichotomos's avatar

Almost no signs in English and very few are pre-printed. This seems pretty organic... or as organic as any protest can be.

Seems like Zelensky is far less popular and loved than the western press had led us to believe.

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Simplicius's avatar

I once wrote long ago that the number one tell-tale sign of an artificial protest is the age demographics of the attendees. Organic protests tend to have a healthy/larger share of older people, who are usually immune to being 'bribed' by NGOs to attend pop-up protests, since that's a young man's game, as they say. Also, in organic ones you'll often see families with children, etc.

In the fake color revolution protests, you'll usually see a majority in the 18-25 "impressionable" cohort, i.e. the people most often targeted by NGO programs, and who are most susceptible to money bribes, and have the time, energy, and youthful idealism / blind zeal to fall for the NGO's agitprop and expend their energy at such artificial contrivances.

From what I saw so far at these protests, virtually everyone was in the 18-25 range, not sure if I saw a single true 'adult' present, which was telling so far. But we'll see how it goes.

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Taiga Shaman's avatar

interestingly, the recent "no kings" artificial protest in the states was almost entirely made up of old people and that one was astroturfed like crazy. they probably weren't being paid though, that cohort is just brainwashed and bored.

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John Osman's avatar

Because why would anyone genuinely protest Trump?

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Taiga Shaman's avatar

non sequitur. of course there are reasons to protest, but the "no kings" was not organic. all the signs were the same and the only people who showed up were geriatric liberals who knew about it from watching CNN. if the TV tells you to do it, it's not organic.

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Ray Anderson's avatar

Not true that no kings was "astroturfed like crazy." That's completely made up. It was 5 million people. Largest in US history. An organic outpouring of revulsion and disgust.

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Kojo's avatar

It was a bit of both.

It was seeded by the Deep State. But deliberately built upon legitimate currents of sentiment in the country.

That is best practice for astroturfing. You dont make up things but rather find currents to coopt and ride and misdirect for your own purposes.

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No's avatar

Just a bunch of wheezing old geezers who watch CNN and think they are well informed. They have no clue what is happening, they're just virtue signaling hippie leftovers. They actually think Obama was a good thing, and Biden was president.

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Occam's avatar

Don't forget that this group of Americans benefited the most from a strong economy. They bought houses for nearly nothing, held them for years and are now sitting on 7-figure retirements. They bought in the stock market and enjoyed outsized gains for years.

They will definitely defend the status quo, because they're the ones who have benefitted.

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Taiga Shaman's avatar

it doesn't matter if you retell the lie, it's still a lie. no such thing as an organic protest in the US, it was entirely made up of bored boomers.

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Andy's avatar

😂

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

"interestingly, the recent "no kings" artificial protest in the states was almost entirely made up of old people"

I'm 73 y/o and many of my liberal friends were chomping at the bit to attend the "No Kings" cosplay. A real "senior moment"! I took a pass knowing that WE, in the land of the free, always get another king. Much of this was "muscle memory" revisiting the protests against the Vietnam genocide we sponsored. Now all the old war protesters have enthusiastically climbed on the Ambien Joe/Harris train. Now that their skin isn't in the game they're very A-OK with taking out the nasty Russians. War-meet virtue! Bigotry against the Russians is acceptable, encouraged actually. Many of these bigots would come to blows against anyone mouthing the N-word. Is it irony or stupidity? Political correctness?

Senescent Trump has a very tough gig juggling the Epstein revelations, the Gaza genocide and, uncharacteristically, losing the denouement of the Ukraine debacle.

Losing on all fronts is quite a bracing moment for an old wind-bag like Trump. So much winning...

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Danf's avatar

I encounter the sense you seem to express a lot: "I'm too clever to be fooled into believing or supporting anything". It hard not to agree that such cynicism often seems to be a winning hand.

People focus on Trump as a personality. But Trump is a phenomenon and his personality or policies hardly matter. I've voted for Trump in all 3 of his elections. What I've voted for is not Trump the personality - although I do find him highly entertaining - I've voted for Trump the Hammer.

People decry the chaos that follows in Trumps wake. It's that chaos that I voted for.

The entrenched interests that benefit from the status quo in any system like the US or the USSR in the late 80's are too entrenched to be vulnerable to reform.

The ideas, entitlements, assumptions, vocabularies and indulgences that channel public "opinion"are to set to permit change. The USSR could not be reformed and neither can the US. The structures can only be broken and wait to see what gets rebuilt. Trump is the hammer of demolition. Demolition is never neat and tidy or orderly.

Russia endured 10 or 15 years of destruction and reconstruction. Old patterns and assurances had to face the hard reality of asphalt. Trump will be gone in less than 4 years. Probably some truly fascist democrat will replace him and he/she in turn will be replaced by someone even crazier. Like bending a wire back and forth - eventually it will break and/or a new general consensus will emerge - or it wont and it will all fly apart.

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

Danf, I largely agree with you. Almost 100% and I laughingly defend a lot of Trump to my liberal friends. They are truly butt-hurt. They think I’m a Trumper though I voted for Jill S. I tell them that I’ll explain WHY Trump won if they care to know or listen. Nah…The whole shebang here is rotten to the very core and must be pulled down, root and branch. If I had to choose Trump or Harris even today I’d still pick Trump despite his many faults.

Your insight here is a very sophisticated and welcome insight into where we’re at in the present moment. Again, thanks for your response.

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bemused's avatar

In an old Saturday Night Live skit (back when they were funny) one regular was Al Franken who could be funny until he took his clown show to the US Senate. He decided that people needed something to rally around, so he proposed the Al Franken Decade so that people could base their decisions about was best for Al Franken. Rather humorous bit. The reason I bring it up was something he said during that skit which has always stuck with me. "I used to be against the draft, but then I turned 26 and decided it was really a pretty good idea after all." (to those not from the US or that time period you were no longer draftable at that age).

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Lindsey Reed's avatar

"Useful Idiots" -->> "Media Dupes". The Newsmax comments are gradually going from 95% percent anti-Russian to today about 50%, despite Russo-phobic Newsmax' constant and congenital filtering of "news" from Country 404. I would engage sometimes, but the mal-informed screen zombies are living in the 1970's, and are convinced world history restarted in 2022 with Russia's "unprovoked invasion".

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E H's avatar

No, they were protesting to keep their Latino slaves

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Jullianne's avatar

Not only is this the case. It was predictable that this would be one of the end game western moves.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

All Zelensky need to do is sending out 200-300 recruiting officers backed by Police forces.

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Mark Watson's avatar

They are not at the "Russian front" so they are hoping to get a reprieve . Survival is powerful motivation. I'm surprised that the recruiters weren't present with buses in tow...

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Penelope Pnortney's avatar

Heard an analyst say recently that the only "victory" Zelensky counts at this point is staying in power till the end. A more pragmatic narcissist would let his opponents force him out and escape on his jet with his millions to friendlier climes where he could endlessly complain that his failure to win the war was because the West didn't come through with all the aid they promised or give Ukraine nukes.

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E H's avatar

"To more friendly climates?" He knows he will be hunted wherever he goes, 24/7. Just like in Kyiv, he will live in a bunker and frequently change locations.

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Gerald's avatar

I hadn’t thought of that. Good point.

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mary-lou's avatar

aren't we under the impression that most in the demonstration's age group are (forcibly) recruited to be sent to the front?

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Fledr Maus's avatar

Lower classes are sent to the front, not everybody.

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mary-lou's avatar

ah yes. because... of course.

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Gisela's avatar

It was remarkable to see so many men and potential soldiers at the gay parade in Kiev. That would have been the perfect recruitment location; perhaps they are exempt in order to spread the European "All Inclusive, Shared Values", crap.

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E H's avatar

Yet, participants of the GayPride in the trenches would boost the fighters' morale... for about 30 minutes.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

I think it depends on whether Daddy has deep pockets and/or rubs shoulders with the right people.

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Feral Finster's avatar

With all due respect, that sounds dubious. Old people tend to have responsibilities and don't have the time or energy to protest.

I have plenty of experience with Astroturfed Ukrainian protests. Plenty of them featured old people.

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Gisela's avatar

"Rent a Protester", is alive and well in Ukraine also, this time paid for by the Russian Government. :-)

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Sue's avatar

We also could say those are the ages more susceptible to be enrolled to go to the

front, so in this case we should count on that to analize the ages; just saying...

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retka's avatar

Yes, other political "tells" that expose an American/Western regime change operation disguised as a "pro-Democracy" movement include:

1. Madison Avenue (or CIA) style branding of these fake revolutions through the deployment of catchy jingles, slogans, memes, and images.

2. Protest signs that are written in English (the language of the US Empire) as opposed to the native language of the country that these protestors actually live in.

3. Fawning media coverage from the self-styled "Free Press" pimping these protests and selected photogenic leaders as glorious pro-Democracy Freedom Fighters.

4. Violence at these protests from shadowy actors or groups, which is then blamed on the targeted "regime" and its supposed "authoritarian repression."

5. Escalating political demands from these protestors, which go far beyond the initial pretext issue that they were originally protesting. This is called Moving the Goal Posts tactic.

Coup d’État in Disguise: Washington’s New World Order “Democratization” Template

https://www.globalresearch.ca/coup-detat-in-disguise-washingtons-new-world-order-democratization-template/5385188

COLOR REVOLUTIONS AND GEOPOLITICS

https://colorrevolutionsandgeopolitics.blogspot.com/

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E H's avatar

Youthful idealism? Ukrainian 18-25-year-olds? If they protest for money, it’s mainly to give themselves the means to flee the country. As for idealism, they’ll leave that behind in Ukraine.

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John Day MD's avatar

This throwing-off of the EU minders happens as Ukraine begins peace negotiations in Turkey with Moscow.

This round could be real.

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ann watson's avatar

so where did they all get those darling little candles ? I bet they are all the same.

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mary-lou's avatar

perhaps provided by the usual suspects....? from the picture(s) it looks quite massive, but not very spontaneous.

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ann watson's avatar

yeah - Alex Soros and his cannibal wife - he's no doubt a cannibal as well.

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Gisela's avatar

They are 'Friehofskerzen', tea candles in a red see-through container, that are placed on graves all over Europe. I'm sure they have enough of them in Ukraine.

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ann watson's avatar

so do you think this protest is spontaneous ? It looks organized to me. And those candles are sitting on tables for people to grab -

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Gisela's avatar

Considering all the MSM articles about the possible fall of Zelensky leading up to this, it looks mostly organized.

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ann watson's avatar

Right! that too - I bet he gets away alive. Goes and lives in Israel

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james's avatar

it is time for zelensky to go.. everyone knows it and he knows it too.. how he goes remains an open question..

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Soujourner's avatar

indeed, the final expiration date approaches

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John Osman's avatar

If he goes now and goes peaceful, the little twat might get away with it. He might actually survive.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

Hard to think about John, but you could well be right. He Exits stage right with all his dosh and other associated purloined assets laughing his Cock off like Blinken and the rest of Biden's bunch who got off Scot free, muttering it's your problem now Donny Boy, get on with it.. hahahaha !

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SG_observer's avatar

Nope... no way he gets away 'clean'... once Russia takes over and the truth comes out, there will be enough Ukrainians who will want his head and volunteer for any suicide missions to take him out if necessary. He's pretty much a dead man walking. Plus he likely knows too much crap... and Epstein knew even more and that didn't prevent him from being suicided. Such is the mafia life.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

I hope you're right.

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

"Epstein knew even more and that didn't prevent him from being suicided. "

Nah, Epstein, not dead but running a summer camp for young "women" in Israel. Only the good die young.

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Steghorn21's avatar

He and Netanyahu can hang out in Eichmann's former residence in Buenos Aires. I've heard it's free.

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Fledr Maus's avatar

Konovalets and Batko also left Ukraine in times when it was easier to hide.

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GM's avatar
Jul 23Edited

Nothing will change, he will be replaced by an actual Banderite (Zelensky himself is not that).

People (and that, regrettably, includes a lot of Russians), continue to fail to understand that Ukraine cannot exist on anything but an anti-Russian basis. Remove that and you are left with a Russian territory. Being hostile to Russia is the whole foundation, and it goes much further than in other post-Soviet republic, where they implemented anti-Russian policies after the break-up as a way to cement the new order, for primarily economic reasons (can't have communism return, it is bad for oligarchy; which is why they implemented a lot of anti-Russian measures even in Russia itself). In Ukraine they did that too, but, because they are Russians, they went much, much further with it, as they also had to separate themselves culturally. And when you have to separate yourself from what you actually are, well, that requires some extreme measures, doesn't it?

So Zelensky will go and in will come someone no less bad.

The only solution here is occupation and annexation of the whole territory by Russia and brutal, absolutely ruthless de-Ukrainization campaign, carried out with unflinching total determination until completion, no matter how long it takes and what "human rights violations" it involves.

This is the only way to solve the problem that two centuries of being asleep on the wheel and shooting yourself in the foot have created.

Does the current Kremlin have what it takes to do it? Well, these are the same people who, even after June 1st, which should have been the trigger for the physical expulsion of all US presence in Eurasia, continue to praise Trump for his efforts towards resolving the crisis. Who more recently who insisted that friendly relations with Azerbaijan remain and are the way forward hours after Aliyev spit in their face publicly. And who still have their children and grandchildren living in the West, a lot of them not even knowing Russian well.

The prospects are bleak to say the least...

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Alan Hodge's avatar

Thank you for the first actual comment in the thread. It took longer than usual for this comment section to become a water-cooler hangout, but here we are.

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Occam's avatar

Yah, but the only way he ever goes is if the establishment decides it's time for him to go.

Establishment = US and UK leadership.

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james's avatar

true..

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Moscow Mule's avatar

Interesting. Will there be a game change before Trump's proverbial 50-day bone crushing clock stops ticking? Mind you, Trumpland clocks - be they set on 24 hours, 100 days or 2 weeks runs tend to be as flexible as Salvator Dali's montres molles. In DJT's words, this is going to make great television. And hopefully with no victims for once.

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

Perhaps we misunderstood the 50 day clock a bit.

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GM's avatar
Jul 23Edited

The 50-day thing shold be taken extremely seriously as a threat of kinetic action, not just sanctions.

This is what happened to Iran -- there was a 60-day clock, and then on the 61st day Iran was attacked, and not symbolically, but with the clear goal of destroying the country.

Then Trump publicly gloated about how "We gave them 60 days, they didn't listen, on the 61st we attacked".

And last week Lindsey Graham was asked "What happens after 50 days?" and he replied "Ask the ayatollah".

Put those facts together, and what do we get?

Such a situation pretty much requires a pre-emptive strike instead of waiting to be hit. Because here's the problem -- Iran may have calculated that they will only be struck conventionally and can therefore absorb the blow, then retaliate, and still survive. Even then, had the ayatollah and the president been killed, and they were targeted, there is no knowing what might have happened in the aftermath of total decapitation.

It's a very different situation with Russia, because Russia is so much bigger that everybody knows no conventional strike that would not trigger an immediate nuclear retaliation while still on the way towards Russia can do much damage. They can kill Putin, but that will only help Russia, by removing the major obstacle to fighting seriously, and they cannot really disable Russian military capacity with a conventional strike of the kind Iran was subjected to, there is just too much strategic depth. If you are going to attack Russia, you have to go big.

Which means that if you are the Kremlin, you must be preparing for a pre-emptive strike, because you cannot wait to absorb the first hit.

The whole point of being able to retain second-strike capability is not to carry out the second strike, but to **deter the first strike**. If the latter still occurs, well, then it has all failed. So if there are clear signs a first strike is coming, you have to pre-empt it in order to minimize the damage.

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VHMan's avatar

Thank you.

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Moscow Mule's avatar

Lindsay Graham was directly referring to India et al in his post on X. No suggestion of a first strike against Russia. Admittedly, to be taken with a good phantom tanker load of salt but no need to rush to the fireworks IMHO.

The true treason of Russia would be to shoot first in order to pre empt an imaginary US first strike, resulting in what would then be left of Russia becoming totally isolated and a pariah in the global South. I am quite sure VVP has his own senior generals who, Curtis LeMay style, are convinced that they know better than the boss and that the best defence is offence.

As someone with a lot of skin in what is not a game, I would rather see the current course of death-by-a-thousand-cut / boil the frog incremental approach be continued to its inevitable conclusion rather than advocate for a jump from the pan into the nuclear fire.

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GM's avatar
Jul 24Edited

No, Lindsey Graham literally said "If Putin and others are wondering what happens on day 51, I would suggest they call the Ayatollah". How is that refering to India?

>As someone with a lot of skin in what is not a game, I would rather see the current course of death-by-a-thousand-cut / boil the frog incremental approach be continued to its inevitable conclusion rather than advocate for a jump from the pan into the nuclear fire.

Then you are asking for your own defeat when you have a trump card to play that cannot be countered.

There are two fundamental asymmetries here.

The first one is in Russia's favor -- the US will not do strategic nuclear bombing of Russia over Russia annihilating the US proxies. It is what the proxies are for. Thus Russia can throw the US out of Eurasia, physically, with little risk to itself, as long as the US mainland is not touched.

But that will incur a cost to Russian elites, which brings us to the second asymmetry, this one playing against Russia.

Which is that Western elites went to war with Russian in order to preserve the system that benefits them, but if Russian elites are to fight that war to defend the country, they would have to dismantle the system that benefits them and go back to some form of Stalinism.

And we can't have that, after all these are the same scumbags who have their children and grandchildren living in the West even now, after four years of war, and who already voluntarily broke up the country once and gave away what had been won over 300 years of bloody wars, just so that they could gain their current positions.

The second asymmetry is how you get the frog to go along with staying in the slowly boiling cauldron and never jumping out. And how you get totally destroyed eventually

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Lou Cassivi's avatar

Your comparison to Maidan is spot on!

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

Maybe they should send Lindsey Graham to speak at these protests, to play John McCain's part (may he rot in hell).

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Steghorn21's avatar

It actually looks like Graham might be in trouble in next year's mid-terms. I know we hear that every time, but it seems like people from SC are really starting to hate him. Long overdue.

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mary-lou's avatar

hope springs eternal

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NiggleS's avatar

He'll just have to pay the vote counters extra this time.

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

I've got no idea what he's doing for SC, but I've never understood why he's getting any votes. Perhaps he's not so bad for South Carolina? I don't really know, but somehow I doubt that.

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Gisela's avatar

By now he will have his millions in retirement funds thanks to AIPAC and all the other NGO contributions.

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Occam's avatar

Wonder if Nuland is available to serve her country again....

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Jesterus The Catificator's avatar

There's Samantha Power now.

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Ismaele's avatar

I think the neo-con masters who control puppet Trump have decided that it is high time to close the Ukraine chapter. Considering what is going in the Caucasus, I suspect they want to try and open a new united front against Russia, Iran and China over there, trying to kill 3 birds with one stone... bad choice, in my opinion!

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Fledr Maus's avatar

None of theses supposed new proxies in the caucases can match Ukraine, in any way. Ukraine is the best proxy our NATOstani twats ever had.

Azerbaijan? Armenia? Agains Rus, China and Iran at the same time?

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Ismaele's avatar

Just one year ago Alex Karp, CEO of Palantir, said that the US would soon fight 3-front war against China, Iran and Russia: https://share.google/qW2738FgUIkCdMl21

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Fledr Maus's avatar

Sure, but not with Armenians as proxies. Beside, this 3-front war means world war, therefore US would be burning.

Cocky Palantir homies and their lot keep forgetting they need electricity for their work and schemes.

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Ismaele's avatar

I have never said that Armenians and Azeris would be used as proxies. ;)

In any case, such a scenario would mean WW3 indeed.

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GM's avatar

Armenians won't fight, but it will be enough to set up bases there and open up the transport links from Turkey to Azerbaijan and further to Central Asia.

Turkey and Azerbaijan, on the other hand, will fight. There are four centuries of accumulated hatred towards Russia in the case of Turkey, which lost all its wars against Russia (except the Crimean one, where the British did the heavy lifting for them, otherwise they would have lost), and its empire as result, and in Azerbaijan they are high on recent success and think they are invincible.

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Fledr Maus's avatar

Yes another iteration of ancestral hatred, big deal.

Thinking and doing are two different things.

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Fledr Maus's avatar

It would be easier for Turks to violate Montreux Convention than scheme in Caucasus, yet they have not done it so far.

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GM's avatar

The Caucasus is a stepping stone towards Kazakhstan.

Where you can really, really, really hurt Russia.

Russian strategic depth right now is entirely dependent on Kazakhstan not being a hostile entity.

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VHMan's avatar

Thiel and his bloodless Tolkien Ring. Nothing is serious until Siegfried and Brünnhilde show up!

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GM's avatar

>Azerbaijan? Armenia? Agains Rus, China and Iran at the same time?

You don't understand the concepts of slow constriction and death by a thousand cuts, do you?

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Fledr Maus's avatar

No I did not understand it earlier, but now I do, thanks to you.

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Fledr Maus's avatar

Luckily Rus, Chinese and Iran have you, writing it all here on this blog, telling them what is happening. There might be hope for them now.

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heavymetal101's avatar

Spitballing here... I don't think the Ukraine chapter will close. Just ramp down. With the Caucasus, the "front" is already open... Destabilize, but without the waves of cannon fodder.

After the Afghani "debacle. (My opinion all planned), There were reports much of the weapons "left behind" were moved up into Turkmenistan. Probably to start counter revolutions (CIA and friends) to counter the pro Russian governments in the "Stans".. Cause havoc the Caspian sea region. Control the Russian/Iran corridor. Isolation is the key here. Also with the control of the Baltic. the idea is to put strain on Russia and her trading partners.

One major problem is China..How to put a wedge in the Chinese/Russian relationship.

Basically what I am saying.. Isolate Russia from the rest of the world and create economics hardships within Russia. try to break her from within.

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Penelope Pnortney's avatar

I wouldn't say they've decided to close the chapter on Ukraine, more like changing focus from the shooting war to escalating the terrorism against Russia and destablization of the region that the CIA-Mossaad-MI6 intel triad is so experienced at. I would definitely agree, though, that they are and have been trying to open a new front against Russia.

There's still a lot of unknowns. Nima and Pepe Escobar talked about Pezeshkian and his advisors being stubbornly naive in thinking they can negotiate with the US. OTOH Ali Ardashir Larijani, characterized by Escobar as Khamenei's interlocutor, went to Moscow and met with Putin, which looks like a signal the Supreme Leader bypassing the Pezeshkian government to collaborate more closely with Russia. Larijani was the Speaker of the Parliament for many years and was an officer with the IRGC, which arguably controls Iran's defense policy..

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Ismaele's avatar

Yes, I probably rushed in writing my comment this morning.

As for Larijani's visit in Moscow, I briefly reported on it at the end of this article: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/so-spoke-abu-obeida-and-sheikh-naim

Larijani's meeting with Putin was also followed by the meeting between Iranian Defense Minister Aziz Nasirzadeh and his Russian counterpart, Andrei Belousov, in Moscow, which I also covered briefly here: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/so-spoke-sayyed-abdul-malik-al-houthi-9ba

So, there is clearly lots of talk going on among the big players in BRICS, including a trilateral meeting between Russia, China and Iran just yesterday, but I will cover this in my next article, where I will also bring more pieces of the puzzle together to try and get the bigger picture. Watch out my substack: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/ :)

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Penelope Pnortney's avatar

Thanks for these links, I subscribe to your substack but hadn't yet gotten through all my email notifications today. Not complaining! For all that legacy media tries to strangle alternative viewpoints, multiple iterations can be found out there for anyone who takes the time to look for them.

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Ismaele's avatar

No worries. I leave the links also for other readers/commenters. :)

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Ismaele's avatar

For those interested, here is my "bigger picture" analysis: https://open.substack.com/pub/geopolitiq/p/iran-russia-china-trilateral-talks

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Lubica's avatar

Fall from grace?……I will believe it if I see it…..

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Protests or not, the good news is Pokrovsk.

https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1947846763660120297

If Russia can make AFU instable and unable to sealing the crack…wow.

As usual, Simplicius, is dead right in what appears an orchestrated operation (excuse) to remove Zelensky. I dont think the whole bunch will disappear. Yermak&Co will stay.

Still trying to understand if EU havent understood that Ukraine is corrupt into the core until now?

They must know but has used double-think all these years?

US administrations certainly knew the black hole called Ukraine. Biden used it to bolster his own family and preumable also the Democratic party.

So nothing new. Think we need hard evidence of where the money has gone if we are going to see Zelensky flushed out.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Summary from a ukrainian source (spicy):

https://x.com/DevanaUkraine/status/1947617882151538924

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Magdalena's avatar

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Magdalena's avatar

The dot was my test comment, thanks for the link!

Trust an emotional woman to clearly expose the depths of western corruption centered at Kiev (in detail) as the cover for a global organ-harvest/porno trade...

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Magdalena's avatar

The mesmerising effect of the words ' all wars are banker's wars', subduing the horror fuelling them from top echelons.

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Victor's avatar

We will never see where that money went. Of course, the EU and USA know Ze's entirely corrupt - that's the kind of person they find for these kinds of jobs. If he behaves, he gets to keep the money - if not, he is given as food for the worms.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Curious about your thinking here…

Yes. They know.

But ”person they find for these kinds of jobs”?

Yatsek, as Nuland called him, was their ”boy”.

But Porochenko, the cleptocrat, took power in 2014 and lost to Zelensky 2019.

He wasnt Obamas boy and Trump, who thought he was President during 2016-2020, had no control over Porochenko. Meantime UK educated and brought up the AFU. The hidden power of US Demoncratic Party worked relentlessly in Ukraine to infiltrate and take control over Government.

Then enter Kolomoisky, the creator of Zelensky the Clown. Zelensky won the Presidency on the promise to end the War in Donbass. As soon as Biden stole the election in 2020, Zelensky changed his mind and became confrontative.

Yes. US turned him to a ”boy” but I think the biggest change was the internal Ukraine movement of Nationalism and RussianHate that spiraled into the direct confrontation with Russia.

Zelensky (eg. Yermak) hasnt been controlled by US/UK but WEST have certainly used Ukraines preparedness and stubborness to trick Russia into a War they thought would crush Russia with the long before prepared Sanctions and Steal of Assets.

They, West, then shifted strategy to attrition war against Russia.

All has failed so far.

The problem West have now is that they supported/used the Clown for so long that he grew into a unmanagable problem. West is exhausted over the supply-situation and Zelensky only demands more of the same and has no intention to fold. If Ukraine suddenly breaks he is on a plane to Tel-Aviv.

To remove Zelensky (or the threat of) is only for an opportunity to save what is left of Ukraine. Both UK&US has agreements of Mineral resources etc. with Ukraine. EU nothing of that.

But there would be no elections in Ukraine under foreseeable future. Expect Zelensky to stay. But pressure will mount for a more agreeable stance visavi Russia.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Mineral resources: definitely UK/US have a deal but I understand these resources are now in Russia.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

There are still deposits on Ukrainian territory.

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JennyStokes's avatar

OK.............will Russia not seize them?

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Dont know. They will have to take whole of Ukraine then.

There are resources in the western parts also - behind Dnieper.

https://www.cirsd.org/en/horizons/horizons-winter-2025-issue-no-29/the-mineral-wars

Nothing in Putins postures tells us that Russia has decided to wipe out Ukraine as a nation. If two of the objectives is no NATO membership for Ukraine and the other a de-militarized Ukraine, Russia has implicated that Ukraine will prevail as a nation. although in a pacified form. Right?

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Joseph Moffa's avatar

Zelensky will stay as long as the neo-Nazis allow him to stay. No surprise if he is taken out before the end.

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Opport Knocks's avatar

Close but not quite Mikey:

1. Poroshenko was Obama's (Biden's) asset. Diplomatic cables don't lie.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06KIEV1706_a.html

2. Poroshenko alienated Kolomoisky by nationalizing his bank and removing him as governor of Dnipropetrovsk, no doubt with US encouragement.

3. Kolomoisky sponsored Zelensky's candidacy against Poroshenko in 2019, with Biden/Nuland out of the picture it was an easy task.

4. As soon as Biden/Nuland returned in 2021 they sanctioned Kolomoisky for "election interference" (he had defeated their man) and corruption.

5. Zelensky got the memo and went along with their agenda, no doubt for a price.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Cant access Wikileaks from my country (forbidden entry like the Rt.com).

Interesting although….I only remember Porochenko as a corrupt problem to EU&US. Double-talk and double-think solved this then I guess. But you mean that Biden worked with Porochenko behind Trumps back during his first presidency? A clear case of treason…

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Here is the Subject and opening para of the State Department Cable:

"UKRAINE: OUR UKRAINE INSIDER POROSHENKO ON RADA MAJORITY COALITION TALKS, TYMOSHENKO

Date:2006 April 28, 14:35 (Friday) Canonical ID:06KIEV1706_a

Classified By: Ambassador for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

Summary

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1. (C) During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our

Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenko emphatically denied he

was using his influence with the Prosecutor General to put

pressure on Tymoshenko lieutenant Oleksandr Turchynov (refs A

and B). Coalition talks with the Tymoshenko Bloc (BYuT) were

continuing, but there was no progress to report; President

Yushchenko still seemed unwilling to accept Tymoshenko as

prime minister and was "listening" to influential advocates

of cooperation with the Party of Regions. Poroshenko claimed

that he was personally opposed to an "Orange-Blue" pairing.

Poroshenko related that he had spoken at length with

Tymoshenko on April 27; she had sought, and then spurned, his

assistance in forming a BYuT-OU coalition in the Kiev city

council. Poroshenko confided that he had spoken with

Tymoshenko during the Orthodox Easter weekend (April 22-23);

she had called him to ask "what he wanted" in return for his

support for her serving again as PM. Poroshenko said he had

replied that he wanted her to be more flexible and less

high-handed in the coalition talks. Poroshenko groused that

Tymoshenko could not be trusted, stressing that she was not

candid and not "principled." It was very possible,

Poroshenko warned, that there could be a crisis scenario in

which Tymoshenko and Yushchenko simply could not get a

coalition deal done. End summary. "

Clearly the US has been stage managing things in Kiev for a long time.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Ok. From 2006 when Bush Jr was President and Obama not even heard off…?

But Poroshenko obviously acting like a traitor of Ukraine with US State Dep.

Could be Obama continued to work with him when he became President in 2008.

US eventually then conspired? against Yushchenko, the hapless guy that got poisoned so his face fell off, and was Ukraines president 2005-2010.

The political world of Ukraine has no resemblance of politics, democracy or parliamentalism. They are a bunch of hoodlums.

So I figure US did their best to pitch those against each other with the goal to sever the ties to Russia. Yushchenko and Tymoshenko could not work together after a while so Poroshenko was right in his assesment. Still US pushed for it…

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JennyStokes's avatar

The EU understand nothing.

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Oregonian's avatar

So much unnecessary death of men, fathers, sons, youth…the murder of a generation, of a nation…

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Victor's avatar

The nazis I care nothing about - hopefully they are all killed (though actually, they will likely disperse across Europe for later fun and games). It's the young people (and older) who were yanked off the streets or who actually thought they were defending their country and their families that I have concerns for - they didn't deserve this.

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ann watson's avatar

or America. Seems to be the next big target for the globalists. The police crimes of violence - I guess that's everywhere in the west. But there are already nazis in America. I think that's going to be a problem. They blend with the white nationalists which are fuming now because of immigrants. Its awful what's going on with the immigrants. America is the big fish to bring down. If Americans rose up they could conquer the world globalists...and America is waking up. The Globalists are more afraid of Americans than Europeans, who are really raised to be culturally great...not warrior great. Not like the mean hunters and working class of America

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ann watson's avatar

yeah, that may be coming. And they Americans won't leave America - I'm not talking about the military - I'm talking about Americans. The people - but if they want to - they can become a force to be reckoned with. If the Americans rise up in their true power, they will bring down their government and most of the military will fight with the people, I mean change sides and not fight against other Americans, but with them...if it comes to that.

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Anna's avatar

Americans must grow a spine and remove dual-loyalty scum and oligarchs-sponsored compradors from the US congress.

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ann watson's avatar

well...you lead the way then. Show us stupid spineless idiots how to do it ..be the first. or are you just a keyboard warrior ?

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Haywood Jablome's avatar

Why do you feel so sorry for ILLEGAL criminal invaders? Do you support breaking the law? Trump has failed miserably in getting rid of them. Deported less than Biden did. Maybe that will ramp up but Trump certainly hasn't kept many of his campaign promises. All of the ILLEGAL criminal invaders should be loaded onto C-130's and dropped over the Pacific or Atlantic oceans from 30,000 feet.

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Matthew Hopkins's avatar

I like the cut of your jib Sir. I would imagine all the ex-shtetl dwellers would be going with them?

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Haywood Jablome's avatar

Absolutely. The more the merrier.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@Haywood Jablome

Why do you hate ocean fish so much?

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Haywood Jablome's avatar

Lots of food for those fish.

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Gnuneo's avatar

Great plan. I hope there are enough American Indians who know how to fly the planes.

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Haywood Jablome's avatar

The "native American" Indians were anything but. They migrated over the Bering Land Bridge. Was what happened to them wrong? Sure. The difference is that ILLEGAL criminal invaders are breaking laws. Show me where the American Indians had laws against immigration. Surely there must be cave paintings somewhere detailing it.

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Gnuneo's avatar

Incorrect. The origins of the Indian people came from various directions, many had migrated millennia earlier by sea. There was a major city in the far south of the Americas thousands if not tens of thousands earlier than the end of the ice age.

"Show me where the American Indians had laws against immigration."

Ah. Classic. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PbYc26cKYho

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Anna's avatar

They are not "nazis" - there is nothing patriotic about suppressing the popular discontent in the US (and the EU/UK).

Globalists' dearest are money and power.

Moreover, the worldwide-observed scandal of the aipac-occupied US congress demonstrates the psychopathic oligarchic class on the march.

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ann watson's avatar

I'm not talking about the government Anna

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Davy Ro's avatar

Mean hunters??? I don't what nationality you are. But you believe too much Hollywood portrayl of Americans. If you hadn't realised it yet. America hasnt won a single conflict on its own. Americans talk too much about being the best this & that. The best dont have to say a word & usually don't. America is full of guns, it's full of people with guns. That's what the rulers fear more than anything. Europeans are brought up to be what did you say? To generalise about 30 different countries with 30 different languages & cultures is simply idiotic. I've came to the conclusion you're either an American or very Americanised. Those are the only citizens I know so ignorant of foreign countries & cultures.

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ann watson's avatar

I'm not talking about the government or the military - and yeah - hunting is a big hobby and I'm an animal lover.. But you're calling me an idiot and saying what I'm saying. The guns. Yeah. And as far as the rest of the comment - Europeans are wimps. But culturally they are leaders. Piano - singing - painting - anyway - no more comments from me to you - who can't even hold a conversation without calling your ' opponent ' nasty names.

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Davy Ro's avatar

Europeans are wimps??? There you go generalising over 30 countries as all the same yet again. Yes I'd say that was idiotic. You want to go into Glasgow on a Friday night & say they're all wimps do you? Good luck with that one. You're delusional & very ignorant of different people's & cultures. Which you've made very obvious twice.

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Dhdh's avatar

Stop with the ‘Nazi’ slur. This is a Jew war.

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ann watson's avatar

Ask Russia

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Crush Limbraw's avatar

Nazis, commies, yadada-yadada - they're all proxies for DaSynagogue of Satan......

"However, these attacks have proven unsuccessful, serving only to strengthen both Russia and China. In desperation, the Jewish elite has pursued dangerous strategies of encirclement, dismemberment, assassination attempts and other regime change strategies, including attempts at color revolutions. Adhering to the principle that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” they have even formed alliances with Nazis in Ukraine, ISIS in Asia, and triads in China." - https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2025/07/libertarians-jewish-dilemma-fuels.html?m=0 - but calling someone a Nazi enables you to pass the censors.

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Jamie Palmer's avatar

It’s always the way.

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Nick's avatar

The whole thing, starting with the Maidan coup, orchestrated by Washington.

As Kissinger famously said, "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."

Will the Europeans learn this before it's too late?

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Steghorn21's avatar

Many of us here in Europe hope that Ukraine will destroy the unelected, unaccountable and deeply unpopular EU as well.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I am in Europe too and Steghorn you are correct. No more EU

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Seems that would be your task.

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PFC Billy's avatar

@Nick

The Kissinger quote originated from an article by William F. Buckley Jr. Re: a lame duck Johnson administration move to depose president Thieu.

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"Nixon should be told," Kissinger said, "that it is probably an objective of Clifford to depose Thieu before Nixon is inaugurated. Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."

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ann watson's avatar

calling governments in Europe ' Europeans ' - no they are on board with killing Europeans. These scum who have grabbed the steering wheel are not deserving of a name like that. Call them zionists.

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Ian's avatar

💯 this!

Thankyou! :)

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marcjf's avatar

What surprises me is that so many UAF soldiers continue to fight. I know desertions are high etc etc, but there seems to be enough motivated guys to put up a decent fight. They must by now know the game is up, and coercion cannot be the only reason they carry on.

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

They can't put up a decent fight. Under equipped, untrained and over-matched in fire power. They got BIG ballz of steel for sure.

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CCG's avatar

A veritable long term genocide.

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Anna's avatar

«We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you [gentiles] will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own…»

— «You Gentiles» by Maurice Samuel.

The "prominent Zionist" Maurice Samuel avoided living in the zionist state and instead dwelled in the US.

https://archive.org/details/yougentiles0000maur/page/n3/mode/2up

AI: "The book, «You Gentiles," posits that a fundamental, inherent, and even biological difference exists between Jews and Gentiles, particularly Europeans. This leads to the central thesis that the gap between the two groups is insurmountable and cannot be reconciled."

-- The "biologically different" Jews need to leave the western civilization alone and move back to the Semitic world, where they need to learn how to respect their neighbors and Semitic blood relatives.

"Mr. Samuel, whose book, “You Gentiles”, caused great interest when it appeared last year, has just finished another, “I, the Jew”, which will be off the press soon."

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.167664/page/n29/mode/2up

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Anna's avatar

Bankers' way!

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N Bear's avatar

It is their fault for not saying no to a 5 foot jew. They get what they deserve. Ukraine men would rather die in a trench than say no to a jew.

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DarkPool23's avatar

never forget, the Controllers dont care a jot about this......your family is utterly irrelevant and completely replaceable.

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Marten's avatar

The "Priesthood" always provides the justification of "power"...History repeats because Human Nature never changes !!!!!

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Jullianne's avatar

The west intends to instal its new regime- a new wave of democracy for Ukraine (pretty much like the old Maidan wave renewed!)- before the RF can actually liberate ordinary Ukrainians. We will have a new western centric Ukraine maybe even promised EU/NATO membership (again) facing off against Russian invaders. In fact they can be promised anything when it is likely there will not be a western centric Ukraine left to enter the EU or NATO and then those promises can be buried in due course, just like before. It will be like old times for western duplicity.

The immediate purpose is for this new wave of western pro democracy flag wavers to meet advancing Russian tanks head on. The west never tires of throwing Ukrainians under the bus one way or another, and it loves a bit of theatre. It is also designed to keep within Ukraine a whole bunch of people who might otherwise be considering moving west as refugees. Russia will insist the streets are cleared of protest to make way for real secret ballot voting, the only way to ensure ordinary Ukrainians are heard. Why do we need street protest when real life personal voting is underway. It is purely an effort to undermine that. Russia will ensure the necessary peace.

In the meantime, 'the king is dead, long live the king'. It is one way to throw Ukrainian (and western media) attention off the real time military defeat and front line collapse currently unfolding and avoiding (it is hoped) a very different form of street action, unseemly out right panic and a huge tide of refugees.

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Not to mention throwing western media attention and US lemmings off the Epstein trail and the terrible carnage accelerating in Gaza. Continual chaos with a purpose is Trump and his handler's forte.

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Jullianne's avatar

It is all a merry go round of 'don't look there, look here'!

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Exactly. While there's money to be had. But what these hungry ghosts have yet to see is that the bottom line like Zelensky's fate is plummeting towards the bottom.

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Jullianne's avatar

Ghost month is coming. The Ukrainians don't believe in any of this superstitious nonsense of course, which is such a firm foundation of Chinese culture so derided in the west. Which is one of the west's problems with the rest of the world, so much stuff it keeps denying even as it bounces up and slams itself in the sightless western face. Westerners think that all matters is dominating a wasteland of junk, dead stuff, increasingly literally junk in these end days. Westerners are going to be obliged to widen the horizon of their faith, and deepen their sights to the noumenal content of all that trash stuff- the very heart of things they do not even see. Those of the Sufi mystical tradition will understand what I am saying here.

Find the sight, western leaders, because like my dog who runs into a corner and stares at the wall when it does not want to see what in its best interests I am about to do, your blinkered outlook is not working for you.

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Syd's avatar

You are making an assumption. Eastern Orthodoxy is practiced with a lot of mysticism and the cultures still have links to pre-industrial, pagan traditions/world views albeit distilled.

Ther’s a reason we visit family graves with food; or mention/say a prayer for those who have passed on after we dream of them, particularly around All Soul’s Day and make an offering of food to whoever is around while quietly mentioning this is for their soul; we keep a light on for 40days and nights after someone has passed as their soul may be visiting places and people they knew.

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Jullianne's avatar

Sorry Syd. I don't count the eastern orthodox within trash western religious beliefs. Nor do westerners, if the typical western Ukrainian-Polish catholic is anything to go by.

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J Swift's avatar

You may be right, this may be the latest attempt to say “Look! Everything has changed! NOW we need to send more money and weapons!“

And while that may be true, at the very least a Plan B may be developing among more realistic globalists that it won’t be long until the “government” of Ukraine has to go into exile in the west. Z and his bunch are getting a little headstrong and greedy, so the PTB probably prefer a new, more directly, controlled conduit to pass through funds back into their own coffers.

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Adrian's avatar

Glastonbury, Vogue, cemetery. It was always going to be this way.

So who's next in line?

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Vinny Vanchesco's avatar

In the fullness of time I truly hope that Russia's overall strategy and tactics in this thing are proven to be brilliant. I'm grateful for access to analysis like SIMPLICIUS!

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Seeker's avatar

The Russian military is doing something that has not been done in over 70 years, actually outrightly winning a conflict. Russia is not in Ukraine to pull out in defeat after 10-20 years. To understand one has to look at Germany and Japan in 1945. The Russians are attempting to avoid that, but the West desires the same outcome.

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Jullianne's avatar

The outcome I predict was not listed in your poll options.

Where will this lead? Into deep irrelevance.

Where will that leave Ukraine? A peaceful member of the RF.

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Givenroom's avatar

Who doesn’t want to join the billionaires club and may the war for democracy, rare earths and drone fodder soldiers as well as the population all be sacrificed for the better good. Hunter, Ursula, Zel, Bill, Hilary, Bourla all getting stinking rich on drinking Ukraines blood.

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Bash's avatar

Too much support for Zelensky. The whole EU apparatus is behind him. WH may be ambivalent to him but US deep state will keep him. The only thing that threatens him is if he grows a conscience and opts to end the war. Then he is doomed.

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Hussein Hopper's avatar

Doesn’t matter if the Eurotrash still support the coke head. If the US decides he is finished , he is finished,the US doesn’t give a rats what they think.

The protests could only be organised with US approval. He will be deposed, arrested, tried and convicted of corruption with Zaluzhny installed as interim US puppet until the place completely collapses and/or Russia gets what it wants.

This could happen very quickly, if in fact the US have had a gut full of him, and I think they have.

As a bonus the coke head gets the blame for the accelerating military collapse

Perfect… ish … well good as it gets in the circumstances.

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Hussein Hopper's avatar

Reading today’s Kiev Independent, Zelensky is a goner, only a matter of when and how.

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Sam Ursu's avatar

I'm gonna say yes and no on this one.

Yes, someone got the wind up in NABU and SAPO's sails, that someone being an outside force. But no, I don't think the protests are entirely astroturfed. Corruption is a pretty big deal to folks in Ukraine esp since almost everyone has been forced to give a bribe of some kind over the past 3 years.

The real question is why now? Why did Z kneecap these agencies now and not last year? That right there needs investigating further. And which parties in parliament voted for it and who abstained? Furthermore, why is the EU specifically supporting Z on this? Feels like they would've at least done a mealymouthed mild criticism but instead they're all-in. In other words, why are is the pro-EU faction of Ukrainians protesting a policy the EU supports?

Lastly, I've seen a few what you might call "pro-Nazi" cardboard signs at the protests, making me think they're legit. Not HH or anything that blatant but references to Z's confrontation with Azov way back in 2019 in which he kinda looked like a coward. I'm starting to think the sharpest fangs in this snake pit fight are actually the anti-Zelensky pro-Zaluzhny ultras versus the pro-American/EU thieves and their Colombian mercs.

Either way, whatever the "real" truth of what's going on, Ukraine is really close to a breaking point. There's only so many more straws the camel's back can sustain.

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abcdefg's avatar

Exactly. This all smacks of desperation from all players on the losing side.

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EngNobobody's avatar

all these 'anti-corruption' things are run out of US embassy. Everyone knows it, everyone understands it, it is public information. the 'someone' you mention is US administration.

and that is true not only for Ukraine for all 'young democracies' (or really occupied former states that have been taken over from the inside through various 'revolutions'), when you see 'anti-corruption' you know you are looking at an instrument of foreign imperial power to keep local rabble (that calls itself 'local elites') in check..

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