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Mikey Johnson's avatar

What can one say? It is the beginning of the End for the western cabal. The self-appointed elites, backed by Old money stolen from the people, is the Hydra that has to be taken down. One can blame the Wests populace for ignorance but in reality we are all trapped by a system built up to hold us down, feed us junk and entertain us until mental death.

Europe is going to be a cesspool with crimes surging, the so called wellfare state disassembled and a military styled government demanding people to ”stand up for freedom and diversity”.

De-industrialized, overcrowed cities with fantasy house prizes, permanent hordes of unemployed, a giant black market with foreigners paying no tax, flashing their Mercedes, liberal/leftist women governing all of the public sector. What can possible the result be in the end?

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David's avatar

Beginning?

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

When EU turned its back against Russia they fullfilled the US dream of making Europe dependent on US. Russia should have been a natural partner as much as China. The exeptionalists in US who sees all other states as underlings has done a spledid job.

EU cant turn the birth-rate of white europeans to 2.1 anymore without some miracle and/or masspsychosis. Migrants will create a Eurostan with all feuds, clans, organized crimesyndicates you can imagine. Belgium, the nest of EU, is already more like North Africa. Worse is the animosity against men and boys from western indoctrinated womens. They ”castrate” me and choose to live their own life - whatever that is now.

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Tim's avatar

They are living their best life.

Who needs white men when there are plenty of brown and black ones to give them what they need, whilst being totally subservient to them.

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abcdefg's avatar

Lol, you don't sound like someone who knows much about white women.

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ScuzzaMan's avatar

All women have an in-built unchangeable emotional need for men.

Metrosexuals, trannies, and other various freaks aren't cutting it.

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Dhdh's avatar

what is wrong with you tim webb?

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Tim's avatar

I have a fatal attraction to using irony, I guess.

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Steghorn21's avatar

But you didn't blame the Jews for everything, Tim. Dhdh will cross you off his Xmas card list now.

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Dhdh's avatar

Fatal would be good solution.

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Givenroom's avatar

Bad habits never die, but it’s revealing to watch their prolonged agonies and convulsions, the puke will come to an end when all their bibles and AI’s are echoed into an empty space, no god to answer their begging.

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Don Johnson's avatar

It's all over but for the crying.

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Tim's avatar

God has judged this generation, after aeons of non intervention.

As He prophesied centuries ago, "The sea is come up upon Babylon, she is covered with the waves thereof."

God is not mocked, and He notes what you say.

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Dhdh's avatar

go away with your jew sky daddy nonsense

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Tim's avatar

I prefer it to your Dawkins-lite nonsense.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

The Sky Father is not Jewish at all. It is an ancestral faith of Indo-europeans, shared by the Western and Eastern branches under different names.

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Dhdh's avatar

Tell me more

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Alzaebo's avatar

Now yer talkin'!

Long before the Habiru stole El, Ba'al, Yahweh and his wife Asher, we had Dyeus Pater, our Skyfather as the face of our people

The kingdoms of Judah and Akkad went to war to impose their foreign god on the Aryan-majority tribes of the north, this we have forgotten

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Alzaebo's avatar

Tim mad 'cuz white women not schtupping his Master's brown pets enough - tell us, Tim, who imported those brown hordes, who advertises, celebrates, demands the miscegenation? Who wrote, produced, and starred in Sex and the City? Who said "equality" and "anti-racism" is the new religion that only our women are seduced into?

Why, the very One you demand we bow down to...and why?

Because such a cross-breeding is Abraham's origin.

His Cult of the Bride-Takers was the official religion of Judah and Akkad; whether called "adam" ("true human") and Eve, or Dzhumid and Ninil, the Cult took white Aryan women that they might harvest her people's power, and that their creme-colored children might rise from their slums to one day take the mighty cities that Eve's people had built.

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Jeff Rosenquist's avatar

Our pleas swept past Years of Lords, prayer stones flung to the sky by desperate men; but the universe was tuned to Galactic Negaverse Network sidebands.

The final SOS bobs past gravity wells, fades at last 'neath the Black Body hiss of Big Bang reverberation.

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Dhdh's avatar

How do you know it was a big bang ?

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Givenroom's avatar

Talking about bobs and boobs, as long as Angelina Joly doesn’t fall over her lips and Dolly Parton over her tits, the western cabal is till now a steady investment.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Again the monotheists have betrayed you, demanding you look for a Source! a Mind! the Magician outside the aquarium! as if to find the original cup of water in an ocean wouldst explain how any of it works, or why.

"Nihilism!" they cried, "all is death!", not knowing the design nor purpose of Life - they cannot explain the Beyond, because they do not hear it. What you do not know, is what the religious cannot explain, having learned from the deaf.

Theirs was the dull, bestial roar of the background function, the god inside the greenhouse - while Whites were made to poke the pinhole in the eggshell, in the greenhouse wall, capable of hearing the celestial harmonies without that made the greenhouse.

Not a big bang, or a heat death, but a Cycle - the Big Diesel.

Life's radiant panspermial skein across the impossible void provides the superstructure capable of withstanding the titanic compression - when energy loses its push, and gravity's whorl resumes its pull, all will fall into a singularity, a core; squeezing, and squeezing, collapsing inward under its own weight, until...until...

BANG. The Cycle begins again, like a beating heart.

Imprinted, it is, like with bones in sand, by the very superstucture squeezed against. Were the piston to push upon vacuum, it would stop - instead, it will be pushing on Us, on the memories of us - memory is structure, structure is information, and information is incompressible.

We, and all that made us, will be woven into the fabric of the next universe, molding it as we were molded, one constant, one element, one note at a time by the cycles before us.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Frequent reader.

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Dhdh's avatar

Good read:

could be asked whether rising affluence in Eastern Europe could bring an end to their current cultures. This likely will not happen due to another factor unless there is an upsurge in Jewish influence. In the West, Jews have been at the forefront of making and promoting pornography and other degenerate media culture, and they are a pillar of the cultural left generally. Not coincidentally, the rise to political and cultural power of the Jews in the West, after increasing gradually throughout the twentieth century, surged after World War II, reaching a dominant position in the 1960s — exactly the period during which the dramatic changes alluded to above occurred throughout the West, and in addition saw the beginnings of replacement-level immigration of non-Europeans into the West, exemplified by the 1965 immigration law in the United States.

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Absolutely; they are the source of near all of our social pathologies, as they are intent on tearing us down that they might replace us with themselves.

All of our innovations they turn into weapons against us; what in their mind is reform, is to us foreign malware. They are trying to make us into them, like an animal terraforming its surroundings to make it more suitable to its nesting. This is more a thing of instinct than conspiracy, thus its implacable drive across millenia.

Their belief in "racism" and the mythical Hologram cannot be reconciled with; in their minds, it is either Us, or Them. There is no walking back from this.

I do not picture them convening in strange rooms; rather, I picture Catholic nuns in the Depression caning Irish children for not bringing the pennies their own families desperately needed, to feed the wee bairns of Africa, or the mad English Protestants destroying the native dress and customs of Polynesia, as depicted by Melville. All who are infected with their madness ultimately go mad themselves.

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Let me add how they replaced the WASP ruling culture.

Once made strong enough from the Prohibition they themselves created the campaign for - so that their gangs, 78% of the Prohibition gangs - might buy off the American political class with bribery and blackmail,* they went on to assassinate the Klan political machine that ruled the populous East and South.

After staging and headlining a very few brutal lynchings - the bodies left for the cameras that happened to be staying nearby, how convenient!, rather than the evidence being buried - the ethnic owners of the Big 3 television stations turned their cameras to the Dixie Segregation rallies, in the first national broadcast of 1962.

Those people had already had had their children marched at bayonet point by Federal troops (Union, in their minds) at Little Rock and the like; now their angry, passionate faces were portrayed by the film editors in the worst light to sway public sentiment.

Klan and union membership ranged from Michigan to Mississippi, a representative machine of ward heelers; it you had a problem, you could go down to the local watering hole and talk to somebody, who would pass it up the chain. Democrat cities, such as Boston and Washington DC, were segregated by law to keep the criminal element down.

After the broadcast, the Klan's registered membership collapsed from 2 million to less than 20,000, and soon went the way of the Whigs as a political party machine.

I will defer from the long list of Jewish community organizing of Black America at the time, along lines both licit and illicit, legal and criminal - before they began their Culture Revolution, they had first to break the premier WASP political machine.

*also note that their criminal Prohibition profits went on to buy the near-bankrupt weapons companies after the War, which they then turned into the Neocon industry of insurrection and weapons-selling, along with endless other inroads into the rivers of government money.

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What you described is pretty much already a reality here, even in the fringe areas of the EU, why i moved away from a large city few years back. People in the rural areas are yet not that much affected, excepting being taxed and regulated to oblivion.

Yet there are people who do not conform, and the fear of the establishment is that these non-conformists find a common ground, this is one of the reasons for tightening the internet censorship.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Exactly. It is creeping on you bit by bit. I have ”followed” it during 40 years.

Soon people will find them enrolled in ”plastic” unable to breath or scream.

The censorship going down in UK and Germany is only the beginning. Once they manage to declare a ”state of open conflict” with Russia they can tighten rules even more. Writing things like this on Substack will be an offense.

The ”common ground” will not be allowed. As soon as you organize opposition they will eradicate you financially and socially. Look at the truckers in Canada or the one-eyes yellow wests in France. The only demonstrations and actions allowed are by agendadriven LGBT-ists and Climate troopers. Ordinary people protesting is the most dangerous to the regime, therefore you see police plantfacing mum&dads.

And the political opposition is controlled. Conservatives, right-wingers or alternates are all infested with handlers and infiltrators.

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Siva Ram's avatar

What if there is non cooperative movement with silent support of law enforcement personnel?

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Tim's avatar

As Simplicius said, it's all over for the west, no matter what we do.

Yamal 2 is signed sealed and delivered.

We are now officially the hillbillies.

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BJ's avatar

All planned and deliberate, hence putting Forest Gump Trump at the helm.

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Dhdh's avatar

what do you mean? ACAB

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Siva Ram's avatar

Please tell what is ACAB

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Simon Robinson's avatar

Siva: All Coppers Are Bastards is one colloquial interpretation with Coppers meaning the Police.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Would be nice. Gandhi Redux.

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BJ's avatar

Siva, that's where it has to start if we ever stand a chance. On the other hand there's a reason they hire weakest individuals in law enforcement.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Here in Switzerland, we vote on whether to have electronic IDs. Unfortunately the Swiss sheep will probably vote for it.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

The mentality of the Sheeps also enables the Wolfes. Being a Black Sheep is a good start.

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Martin's avatar

The sheep spend their entire lives fearing the Wolf only to be eaten by the Shepherd.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Europeans like being slaves.

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"operating on perpetual fear cycles like vampires to lure their doe-eyed populaces into states of total paranoia and psychic exhaustion."

Wow this perfectly describes those around me this week. I quit going, to our twice weekly lets get fatter and dumber meetings at a local restaurant.

Yet still they show me terrifying clips from facebook (banned in Russia) while insisting I hate this group or that.

Show me how to hate 40% of the 1.5 Billion, or so, Moslems my buddy insists are evil. No sorry not signed up for more hate!

So we should hate the hordes of immigrants but the fact that our brilliant governments paid to make their countries unlivable is irrelevant? Here is where my pretense of civility goes bye bye.

So more of the same here. Well dump away. Yes there are lots of folks doing hateful things.

Should we hate them or stop the ones causing the mayhem. Who paid to put all the boats at their disposal. Who killed Gaddafi? Cranking the flood gates wide open.

Look at the diversity of the SCO. There is Putin, white blue eyed right at the head of the pack. His defense minister is still Moslem?

My enemies are psychopaths and those who blindly follow their lead.

Our enemies empty their prisons and send the hordes. Who lets that happen? Who made them our enemies?

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BJ's avatar

so very sad - the Swiss.

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BJ's avatar

{And the political opposition is controlled.}

I think it's all controlled Mickey, I believe the vast majority of these Substacks and YouTube shows are all controlled opposition to keep the dissidents confined and corralled. All they do is complain. The dead giveaway is they never forecast the future or discuss the myriad possibilities yet all of them are supposed experts and academics (that also happen to be former government employee's). They're platforms specifically designed to keep the nonconformists pacified from revolting.

I've always felt you don't need a wall on all the boarders when there's already a fence around the entire Country - but these people are just to stupid to see the blindingly obvious.

The phones were a planned and intentional diversion and dumbing down of society and boy has it worked. They're all so brainwashed - phones are more addictive then every other vice combined. They can't put them down. They spend more time on phones then working.

There's one thing that ends this and that's WWIII. Some say it's already begun but once the dumb Americans are standing amongst piles of massive rubble only then will reality set in. Once we're finally and deservingly attacked . . . .

I'm beyond shocked by the magnitude of ubiquitous stupidity. It's rampant, it's an infestation. You talk to scholars that believe Trump let alone that he actually exists. He's a mirage - the greatest distraction the world has ever known. Imagine when they get rid of him the attention that'll garner and what they'll be doing behind the scenes, then opposed to what they're already doping now.

It's coming, there's more than ample reason they positioned Forest Gump Trump in the WH in addition to all the others imbeciles. The day Marco Rubio has his own thoughts and is not simply parroting - he'll become a deaf mute. The others are even scarier. This administration is like a piece of Swiss cheese.

It's all deliberate, look at the calculated and expedient decline of all the major cities. NYC is gone and not coming back. San Francisco and the list goes on. Who would've ever dreamed Memphis Tennessee would become the crime capitol of the USA?

You're telling me this was not all planned and could not have been prevented? That you would purposely insert a man at the helm that makes Biden actually appear cognizant? For years NYC was safe and now it's far worse than it was in the 70's. All of a sudden crime has skyrocketed? Bail reform wasn't intentional?

They deliberately rescinded everything to expedite the demise. I believe it was all planned and they sold us out to to China. I just want to know what the future looks like here and in Europe when this is done.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

You are right on the most!

It is beyond belief but sadly true. For me, Clinton was a joke - I didnt believe him to stand two terms. He did. When Obama was drawn from the Magicians hat I didnt believe what I saw. People actually worshipping a fraud. Trump is another sort of fraud - not so controlled that we think (except the Israeli lobby). But the result will be the same. Not good.

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marcomartim's avatar

There will be no one standing among piles of rubble, the primary targets will be nuclear power plants, hundreds of thousands of tons of fissile material pulverized and scattered will sterilize the earth for hundreds of years.

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Dhdh's avatar

why don't you take the jew and the non-white flood? that is the real problem in Europe

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

The ”Elite” is the problem. Some of (((them))) could be member of a tribe - so be it.

The non-whites is not a problem in itself. Many of them living on subsidies or non-earned pensions equal problems. The criminal part should be flown to a dark place in Congo. Migrants who has integrated are welcome to stay - the majority is working people. But if 10% of the 80 millions who has come to Europe is causing problems then our leaders should act. They dont. So corrupt, bought leaders and their handlers along with tax-evading super rich should face the wrath and judgement.

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Dhdh's avatar

The purpose of the Jew is to use the non-whites as a biological weapon against Europe.

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Dhdh's avatar

So be it ? So whites need to be individuals but Jews operate as a tribe. Guess who wins

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Always those misunderstandings…

Suppose the Resistance hang 100 from the Elite and 70% are your favourites. What is the problem then?

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Alzaebo's avatar

Why, no problem at all! You don't want to focus on one group and miss all the collaborationist traitors - and you know, that makes perfect sense.

If they'll do it to their own, they'll do it to their own.

In fact, that they ARE doing it to their own is the real problem.

We have two huge problems - no, three, the migrants themselves - thank you for clarifying that, I'm going to take up such thinking myself and pass it along as much as I can.

Being as Antiseptic as I am does create its own problems, since it's such a large divide - thanks again for helping walk this tightrope.

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People forget, many of these migrants have fled their Countries because the USA destroyed them. They didn't come because they wanted to. They were forced out. Get rid of the USA and watch how fast people start returning to their own land. No matter where you go, they refuse to acclimate, solidifying their heritage.

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I focus my ire on the Neocons who started the wars to stampede them into Europe, and the NGO syndicates run by Neocon relatives ferrying them in and doing lawfare and political activism on the migrants' behalf, but that misses all of our own people who are eagerly collaborating and profiting from the scam.

The people we aren't supposed to criticize are geniuses at turning anything into an industry.

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BJ's avatar

all true

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marcomartim's avatar

The US is merely the battering ram used to drive Muslims from their lands. Empty lands are easier to occupy. Guess who orchestrated the destruction of Syria and who has already begun seizing the lands?

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Steghorn21's avatar

You should write for the UK tourist agency. Summed the place up perfectly.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

Very well said. This is the depressing reality and most probably the even more depressing future.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Not the end at all. Rather, the West no longer sees the need to keep up the charade.

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GordM's avatar

The leaders pictured represent the colonies of yore from whence the Europeans stole all of their wealth, holy artifacts, and national treasures with which they the Euros built their colossal palaces and birthed their respective aristocracies, while cruelly enslaving and brutalizing those same colonized populations for generations.

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Yes, Hail Hydra, the tentacled monster from a comic magazine. The inheritor and moral equivalent of the Third Reich. Nearly a million dead in Ukraine with unspoken casualties amongst the Russians. Contrary to the EU and Washington Empires' narrative of how the Ukes are a dime a dozen and we're fortunate to get so many dead ones so cheaply, I believe they are as human and precious as anyone. The Ukes are victims as well as invaders and monsters you know.

Most of the dead of Ukraine is counted amongst the ordinary Ukrainians, victims of Washington's foolhardy support of anyone willing to overthrow a constitutional government that dared not toe the line, the dictate of the Washington Empire. Because of this uncaring greed and stupidity they installed a Nazi dictatorship that began the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine just like their god Adolf Hitler cleansed the Jews from Europe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUCCR4jAS3Y&t=78s

As the saying goes, my sources were the BBC and The Tribune of N. India. At that time the BBC actually had some integrity and strength for the battle against evil. Now it is a wholly enslaved lackey of the Washington Empire none dare go against.

I would cut the CIA some slack as the saying goes but I doubt they were ignorant. That was the CIA and the NSA discussing the situation on the audio tapes. Surely they knew what the Azov was? Banderites. Worshippers of Hitler who cut down some of their own outer party supporters to present an incident, a propaganda coup that they utilized against the duly elected government of Ukraine during Maidan in 2014. The CIA certainly knows what Washington is since they call it an empire themselves. One they serve gladly.

This was under Barack Obama's regime, six years into the administration of our murderous newly multi-millionaire president who began his imperial administration as a low-income product of the Richard Daley Chicago political machine when he won, and a Nobel Peace Prize recipient barely weeks after assuming command having done nothing to deserve it in his entire eight years. The man who took transparent bribes disguised as book deals, prestigious and lucrative speaking engagements just like all the other criminals in Washington with their hands out for political campaign donations which are at the level of multi-billion dollar bribes each corporation better pay, or else. Both parties must be paid.

The Daley crime machine is one of the most corrupt organizations in a very corrupt Democratic Party. Not that the Republicans are tiptoeing through the tulips like innocent angels. The Don could at least end America's part in this vile war with the stroke of a pen just on his authority as Commander In Chief. Instead the man I so hopefully voted for plays games with people's lives for reasons he will not divulge except to express how Russia must bow to His Majesty or else, because the Ukes won't come to the table. It amazes me that TASS and RT continue to pretend The Don is an amazing and peace loving guy. I'm fed up with waiting to have my country bow out of this heinous crime against humanity.

We should also withdraw all our military power out of Europe which uses our eighty-year occupation to hide behind. There comes a time when liberators become occupiers and tyrants because they simply will not leave, are the greedy and criminal Euros entirely to blame? The Cold War of Winston Churchill is obviously misnamed. I don't know exactly what this evil should be called except perhaps "The Forever War" of George Orwell in his novel 1984. Korea, Vietnam, both invasions of Afghanistan and the Ukrainian abomination amongst many others are simply hot phases of the now eighty-year long WWIII which began the instant WWII or The Great Patriotic War was over. The Nazis have won. Hail Hydra.

God Bless Us All

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Very well summarized!

If I may tweak a little bit on the History it would be this.

The Old Empires of Great Britain and France was replaced/transformed by the New Empire, US, although the formers lived on and acted as Empires well into the sixties.

The not so wellknown (hidden) entity is the financial Empire of City of London. A good part of the Elite wealth is guarded by the Trusts, shell companies and foundations emanating from that Hydra. Not to forget all tax heavens created before by the little brits.

What we see now is that the Ukraine operation, started by US, is more or less overtaken by the little brits and the french Chihuahua. What the role of Zombie-Germany is, beats me, maybe as money- and nutritional bag.

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PFC Billy's avatar

Second?!

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François Hollandaise's avatar

Can’t wait until we move to Russia. The Europe I grew up in is dead.

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Denis's avatar

Then you'll only have to worry about the Russian mob shaking you down. Don't criticize the SMO, either, or you go to jail. In Russia, you live with Omerta. Choose your words carefully.

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

I also heard such nonsense from particularly well-informed people in Germany.

People who were never in Russia themselves, neither during Gorbachev's time, let alone during the time of a drunken Yeltsin... in whose times things actually happened very similarly to what you describe, even though the idiot supposedly stood for freedom. But worse are people like you who spread your nonsense.

On Russian TV, every talk show is live, and I'll give you a tip: watch it and be amazed at the truly harsh criticism of Putin and other members of parliament that is expressed LIVE in public... in your country, as has been shown, this would lead to house searches or pre-trial detention, but under NO circumstances to reports in your media. You are only spreading rubbish.

Without ever having been to the country or even spoken to Russians. Typical authoritarian, I'm guessing German?

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Dimitris Damdimopoulos's avatar

Or Anglo Romanian, same hateful crap spewed daily, I have to listen to the morons at work the whole time. Also listening to their complaints about prices, immigrants and trans ideology, which they also blame on Russia because if it wasn’t for Russia none of the above would be happening. Morons the lot of them.

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

There's no fixing stupid. I'm surrounded by it. Many are so confused they think Russia is still the Soviet Union. This idiocy is reinforced by the fact that reading history presently has gone the way of the Latin Mass. Biden then Trump...bigly sad. If you sniff the air carefully it's redolent with the sweet smell of civilizational change. Hundreds of years of Western Piracy is finally getting called out. Exciting times, if we survive the denouement.

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Victor's avatar

I would suggest these people get a streaming application with Russian TV channels on it - even if they don't understand Russian, the exposure to modern Russia will be truly enlightening to them - modern, glitzy, true freedom of speech, clean, modern cities, full of people with traditional values.

The only problem being that once they view all this and then wake up the next morning to walk out into their own society, they will be truly depressed.

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

Because you could show stubborn people everything live in Petersburg and let them participate in life, but they would still repeat the same nonsense at home.

Because their world would collapse, their worldview about the course of their life, because their parents' stories would dissolve, and they would have to admit to everyone they've told such things to, colleagues, relatives, acquaintances, that they lied and made things up WITHOUT ever having known anything.

THAT... will never happen, or very, very rarely.

If Putin is no longer the universal culprit for everything negative surrounding their lives, then the only person left to blame is the representative on their doorstep or their government.

And as the idiot who believed everything and allowed it all, YOU YOURSELF.

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Victor's avatar

I agreed with all you said until you ended up blaming the victim.

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

Victims?

Defining the people who allow it to happen as victims is precisely the mistake. Only those who control their own destiny, for example, in 1989 in East Germany, there were approximately 17 million victims, but they fought back. A victim will always remain a victim.

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

Thanks to videos such as this the curious can see how well put together the Russian women (and men) are...dresses (OMG!!) on women. People here are not packing an extra 50-75 pounds with freaky green hair and obligatory face metal. As seen in the typical big city American coffee shop. How SICK is it that western leaders try to pass these people off as our enemies?!

Addenda: Note all the laughter coming from the street. Good Times...

https://youtu.be/ylzHuZ-pnq8?si=-QxGS5myNQcBzTRT

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Steghorn21's avatar

They don't grovel to the LGBTQ+ mob like we do.

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Married With Bears's avatar

There's definitely a fair number of fat people in Russia. But there's few women who throw on a pink night robe and haul their obese bodies to the store with curlers in their hair. Women get dressed up to walk to the grocery five minutes away - makeup, hair done, nice dress, and heels.

An older Russian woman I'm good friends with explained it as "women want to feel like princesses". And they're not trying to prove they can change the oil in a car or any other traditional male task. They get men to do it.

The flip side is it's hard to adjust for a man raised in the west, where splitting household chores, cooking, and child rearing is the norm. I like to cook - and I feel lazy not pitching in, or being the one to wash dishes if my partner cooks. But that is deeply uncomfortable to Russian woman (generally), as much as a woman telling her guy "oh hon don't worry about snaking the blockage out of the toilet, I've got it!".

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occamsrazorback22's avatar

Thanks Married...of course there are some fat people in most locations. In the US, it's at epidemic levels. When I graduated from high school (1969) there were very few fat young people then. A large number of my fellow students were from farm families. It was common in the HS hallways to smell cow shit/barn on my mates. This is stated as fact, not as put down. They did hard manual labor before getting on the school bus.

My wife is disabled so I do almost all of the household tasks including cooking and cleaning. It works out okay because I'm a far better cook than my wife, anyway. What was once considered "traditional" here has been eroded by the democrats ramming the DEI fakery and LBGTQ+M.O.U.S.E. down our throats. Of course our masters here want to destroy the Russian People/Culture because it is White-mostly/Christian/educated. I visit this site because of the educated conversations about the Ukraine dust-up which is generally a non-starter where I live.

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Victor's avatar

"But that is deeply uncomfortable to Russian woman (generally)"

Gosh, tell my Russian wife that. She loves that I cook and help out around the house. Of course, she works also, so I can understand that,

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dacoelec's avatar

🤣👍

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Martin's avatar

I’ve seen this a couple of times before, and it always resonates with me. The streets in Russia are clean, safe to walk, and free of rubbish. There are countless videos of American and European families who sold everything, moved there, and though they admit it can be challenging, they say they are happier than they ever were back home. Of course, learning the language and integrating into the culture is essential.

Sadly, I’m too old now to make such a move myself, but if I had the chance earlier, I wouldn’t have hesitated to leave what London has become. Russia has held firmly to its Orthodox Christian roots, which is one reason, I believe, why the Western elites harbor such hostility toward it.

Something about all this leaves me deeply bitter. The West is steadily transforming into a repressive, authoritarian system, while Russia and even China appear to be moving in the opposite direction, toward greater stability and confidence. It pains me that in this final stage of my life, I cannot fully enjoy it. Time, after all, is irreversibly limited.

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Married With Bears's avatar

I'm western, and have lived in Russia for over two decades due to marriage. It's no paradise, it has its strengths and weaknesses.

There's not true freedom of speech, though I doubt there is anywhere. The country is and has been at war for a while. The best way to describe it is the sensitivity to saying "hi" to your friend "Jack" on an airplane in the late 80s, after the spate of hijackings had everyone rattled. It's clear that there are Ukrainian saboteurs and stay-behinds working against Russians here. There have been terrorist incidents that have affected almost everybody by one or two degrees of separation - a friend's son who was in Samara when it was attacked recently, for example. Because of it, Zoom and Telegram's video call feature just got blocked.

Cities are coming up to clean and modern, but they're a long way away now. It's a slow process. Russia suffered the "tragedy of the commons" during the Soviet period - people threw trash everywhere, dumped appliances on the side of the road, etc. It takes a long time (really, a change in generations) to fix those mindsets. At the same time, the explosion of plastic-wrapped everything isn't being handled well. There are just literal mountains of trash building up outside of the cities in European Russia. I have a friend who lives in a suburb close to one for her nearby major city. The smell is intolerable in summer.

Glitzy isn't the Russia I know. Historic would be better phrasing maybe - the beauty of the Stalinist and imperial architecture, monumental architecture everywhere. It's beautiful and I love it. But when I think of glitzy, I think of Dubai or something.

The cities weren't built for most families owning one or more cars. Parking is atrocious.

Best to be realistic about things. There's lots of great things in Russia, but it's not all rainbows and unicorns.

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Danf's avatar

Whats it like in the country side ? Does everyone in Russia want to move to the cities or is there a stiring of a move back to the country side and a look for opportunities to create renewal there ?

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There are rural areas around the major cities that have housing subdivisions or just houses, and where it's possible to commute into the city for work or shopping. Suburban train lines are really good, the trains run often, and fares are fairly cheap. In between the rail spokes there's development along or close to major roadways in and out of the cities.

It's really, really hard to live in true rural areas in Russia if you're a working adult. I'd define that as being too far away to reasonably commute into a major city for work - maybe at least two hours by train.

Speaking about areas with any sizable population density (so excluding the far north like up near Murmansk, mountainous areas, or the inner areas of Siberia that are very far north of the string of southern cities there), there's electricity everywhere in the countryside. It's turned off during thunderstorms to avoid damage to the system from lightning strikes on electrical towers.

Water (well) and sewage (septic systems) are easy and cheap to build. Internet access is likely to depend heavily on how close you are to a mobile cellular tower for mobile data. The government has a plan to put up a system similar to Starlink that's underway, and it will be really nice and heavily used when it's done.

It's relatively easy to either buy or build a house. If you'd like to get an idea of what homes sell for, there's a site most Russians use called Avito for buying and selling real estate, cars, household goods, and things like that. This link opens to the real estate page on the map view:

https://www.avito.ru/all/kvartiry/prodam/on-map-ASgBAgICAkSSA8YQqt8VAg?context=H4sIAAAAAAAA_wEtANL_YToxOntzOjg6ImZyb21QYWdlIjtzOjE2OiJzZWFyY2hGb3JtV2lkZ2V0Ijt9F_yIfi0AAAA&map=e30%3D

You can zoom in on an area and see the home listings.

I owned a dairy farm at one point in a very rural area in European Russia. My perception of business here is that in the U.S., starting a business is easy: it's once you start having something that it becomes difficult to defend, as you have to worry about internal threats (embezzlement, theft), lawsuits, adverse government action, coordinated anti-competitive actions by your competitors, corruption. Here it's the opposite: starting out, it's really difficult. But if you survive that phase and start turning a significant profit, you have enough grease to make friends and things get a lot easier.

Labor is a big problem in the countryside if you wanted to start a business there (and the reason there largely aren't any businesses operating there). A lot of people have a summer home (usually something that doesn't have winter insulation or a year-round well) and stay there a few months a year. Then there are the people who live there year round. They fall mostly into groups of retirees, a few people who are earning legit livings (forestry, fishing, farming, maybe some small industry like a welding shop making something for export to the cities), and mostly alcoholic deadbeats who live off the dole.

Anyone who lives in a rural area and earns less than a certain amount gets a welfare supplement. It's not a lot of money, but enough to survive on I'd guess. Running moonshine stills is a pretty common occupation out there. There's a lot of petty thievery - stealing food from part-time resident's homes in the dead of winter when all the food money's been drank up, things like that. There's a Russian meme for it, "Vanya on a tractor" - and too drunk to drive the machine.

Nearly every Russian I've known is very pessimistic about the prospects for the countryside. Everyone out there with any potential is trying to get out or has already gotten out. If there's specific questions you're interested in, I'll try and answer them.

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arthur brogard's avatar

Thank you for a sober even handed description of the truth. Valuable. Rare nowadays. :)

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arthur brogard's avatar

sorry i cannot link to or quote the exact law but I am convinced it is a law: you cannot criticise the SMO in Russia. Why be so alarmed about it? It is much the norm in any society to frown on criticism of the military in times of war.

Do you perhaps think that Russia is perfect? The whole world is imperfect, let me tell you.

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

The SMO and the decisions related to the SMO are already being criticized.

But there's one thing that contradicts their reasoning: approximately 97% of Russians support the SMO. However, they criticize Russia for not taking tough enough action. And they do this live on TV almost every week.

Try criticizing the actions of the Israelis in the US, or in Germany or in France... in which country are you more likely to get a rubber truncheon over the head? Not in Russia, as long as you remain peaceful.

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... and YOU, in the Western bubble, live in glass houses in every country... haven't you noticed?

NOTHING worse could happen to the West, NOTHING worse could happen to you as an ordinary citizen than if Putin were to die tomorrow...

I bet the hardliner who then has the say would have no qualms about flattening Warsaw, for example, as a deterrent... look what awaits Paris, Berlin, and London if you don't keep quiet. And ALL the rich, ALL the oligarchs in the world don't want to enjoy their wealth 500 meters underground.

THIS:

A good man is openly being challenged by Putin on Russian TV talk shows...

So pray that Putin lives a long life.

I don't know if every idiot (victim) within the Western bubble is aware of THIS.

By the way, THE WESTERN BUBBLE, including the USA, accounts for only about 8.7% of the world's population. Did you know?

And the rest of the world is happy to forgo this 8.7%!

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One more thing...the world hasn't been perfect since Adam and Eve's apple. It will never be...if only because billions of people have billions of their own opinions, AND that's a good thing.

But 98% of them have to learn to keep the 2% in control with absolute power and dreams. More billions, more and more billions, others say power, more and more power.

Abolish the stock market, and you will have taken the first step toward world peace...that's my opinion!

Those who profit from basic foodstuffs on the stock market have lost their definition of human.

Start there, and guns will fall silent!

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arthur brogard's avatar

I am a bit confused. The system seems to think you are responding to my post but I fail to see the relevance.

In the interests of clarification I will repeat my post, FYI :

sorry i cannot link to or quote the exact law but I am convinced it is a law: you cannot criticise the SMO in Russia. Why be so alarmed about it? It is much the norm in any society to frown on criticism of the military in times of war.

Do you perhaps think that Russia is perfect? The whole world is imperfect, let me tell you.

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Tim's avatar

All very sobering and interesting.

However, if you look up the legal definition of "human," it is "A kind of monster."

So it looks as if it is the humans who are causing all the problems, whilst men and women in the ROW try to sort out the mess.

I think if the west hangs and/or imprisons its political class - which is definitely not beyond the bounds of possibility, once we realise what has been done to us by these criminals - Russia will look kindly upon us.

But it will require us to denazify and demilitarixe first.

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dacoelec's avatar

1000 up votes!!!!!

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jsarnak's avatar

So I guess all of you conveniently forgot just how much Yevgeny Prigozhin was permitted to say in public and on social media. He was never silenced until he actually "did" something.

I actually have a Russian friend who I met in a gym over 15 years ago. He used to travel to the US pretty regularly and for some reason we got along well. Even though we were definitely in separate financial circles. As an aside, that is one thing I really like about the Russians I met, they are definitely not as pretentious and obsessed with money and class as Americans. Anyway, we do not get a chance to meet regularly any longer, but we do have Emails and phone calls and we spoke about this situation and he told me the "spirit" or the idea behind public criticism of the SMO had nothing to do with "talking" or criticizing Putin or the Kremlin, according to him the Govt. did not want any of the left loving liberals to protest the soldiers. They did not want anyone serving in the military to face the humiliation of being spit on or flags waved in their faces just like the US did to their own soldiers. So that is a single Russian's perspective that I give more credibility than the scumbag media here in "the west" which just prints more and more lies everyday.

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GM's avatar

>So I guess all of you conveniently forgot just how much Yevgeny Prigozhin was permitted to say in public and on social media. He was never silenced until he actually "did" something.

Summer 2023 is when the big crackdown happened, and it went way beyond Prigozhin.

Strelkov was arrested on July 21 2023.

Prigozhin was killed a month later.

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

But not because of criticism of the SMO, you idiot, you're confusing a few things...he didn't criticize, he became active against the Kremlin, and that was a direct attack on Sougun, the former Defense Minister...FORMER is IMPORTANT, and resistance is active resistance against the Kremlin with armed force.

A small but subtle difference to criticism.

And as I said, anyone in Russia can criticize the SMO (not even 2% actually do it), not even Putin's former opponents!

What you are not allowed to do is insult the soldiers or even treat them contemptuously, for example, like in the USA or Germany in the 80s and 90s, where soldiers were NEVER allowed to return home on leave in uniform!

My neighbor was flying from Moscow to the East with a duffel bag...just because of that duffel bag, the sign that identifies soldiers, and his hobby camouflage clothing, he was greeted with a friendly welcome even though he hadn't booked a seat in first class...ever heard of anything similar from the USA/Germany/France/Spain, etc.?

Find the error in your own thinking right on your doorstep.

And something else that Putin achieved after Yeltsin and Gorbachev, during whose times of hunger reigned, food stamps were a necessary part of life. Did NO ONE tell you that bread and meat were only available on food stamps during the times of the "Great Liberators" from socialism... Gorbachev is despised today as a failure who destroyed the Soviet Union...did you know that? Stalin, on the other hand, is revered today and honored as a true leader. Because what did he do? Properly clean up the saboteurs in the middle class and civil servants who, if not actively fighting change, then doing nothing.

What's Trump doing right now? Removing officials (Deep State) whose goal it is to sit HIM out and obstruct HIM wherever possible?

What would happen to the AfD in Germany if they ever got over 50%? Fighting against thousands of officials who were appointed based on their views...just by the way.

What's missing in Russia are the elites on the golf course...these true leaders of the state are NOT reappointed every four years...they remain the same for generations with billions behind them and connections to the highest offices, who determine who appoints the government, why, and under what conditions, and NOT just in the USA!

That's why Western Europe is called vassals.

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GM's avatar

The criticism towards Putin is really very mild and subdued on Russian TV.

After Strelkov was jailed permanently, and pretty much everyone else of the really harsh critics spent a few days behind bars too, everyone got the message.

There is criticism of how the war is fought, but the Tsar is not personally criticized.

Which is a problem, because he is the source of most of the issues...

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Natalia V's avatar

Putin is fighting a war with NATO single handedly. No need to stab him in the back. Peaceful times? Go ahead and criticize Putin or whoever is in charge.

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Ida's avatar

It's even been enshrined in law! He's not talking nonsense. By the way, it would be best if you didn't believe any of the politicians! Xi even received an award from Schwab for his excellent work in creating the New World Order. Just because the DS overthrows and destroys the West doesn't mean the East will be free! They want to keep more Easterners alive because they are more used to being terrorized and more obedient!

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

It was never intended that people could be free, neither in China, nor Russia, nor North Korea.

But also NOT in the USA, France, or England...that's also part of the truth!

Given the diversity of mentalities and sometimes strange thoughts and ideas in people's heads...a free person is a dangerous person to their fellow human beings.

Just as we owe where we are today to power-hungry people...ever thought about that?

Humans are naturally obsessed with power, and greed is greed for power...give an ordinary person power, e.g., a position in a company, and you'll quickly notice how they change.

Give them the opportunity to gain power in a community, and the community will soon have a dictatorship...the same applies when you give power to a group, regardless of whether they are elected or appointed...they will find ways.

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Ida's avatar

That's what I'm talking about too!

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

If you mean freedom with live and let live under decent living conditions, then I'm all for it!

Russia today has some of the best living costs in the world!!

And that's the only thing that's IMPORTANT, and health for the family regardless of your bank balance!

And that's exactly what applies here.

That's why millions of Russians are more than content, even if there are STILL stinking garbage dumps.

In the West, most cities outside of tourist centers are garbage dumps!

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Feral Finster's avatar

Learn well The Iron Law Of Oligarchy.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

Not all fools are German.

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

True

But those who are are unteachable and usually in higher positions.

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dacoelec's avatar

The ones that aren't Krauts are usually muricans..../sarc. LOL🤣

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Rocktime's avatar

Brainwashed ignoramus.

Are you getting all your "facts" from NY Times?! Washington Post? Or CNN?! :)

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Bullshit.

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Moscow Mule's avatar

Ignorant nonsense. Trolling?

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Yoni Reinón's avatar

LOL. Fearmonger detected. 😅

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Denis's avatar

Look into it.

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arthur brogard's avatar

Yep. And I'd hate to be in a Russian jail. It is said you can judge a society by its jails. In which case, unfortunately, I don't think Russia would rate very highly.

However there is little doubt about it when the sides are chosen, when the battle lines are drawn, the Russian side, the Chinese side, the Brazilian side, the people of the world's side, despite all their flaws and horrors, is the side to be on.

The other side has ten horrors to match every one on that side.

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Denis's avatar

I'm too old to flip sides, Arthur.

I'll just go down as among the last remaining Canadian patriots.

Hold the line, men.

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arthur brogard's avatar

Just those few words somehow convey to me a sense of who you are, Denis.

I suspect you are man that instinctively and intellectually wants to be on the side that is 'right'. On the side of 'right'. On the side that protects and helps, nurtures people and good values.

You don't have to change sides, Denis. That's the side we're all on.

You just need to distinguish who are the members of that side. We all do. That's what's going on in the world right now.

That's what Modi just did. ( we hope )

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Denis's avatar

Thanks, Arthur.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Agreed. Just because the West is going belly-up, it doesn't mean we have to sugar coat the BRICS nations either. That's why I can't stand Pepe Escobar: he's far too uncritical of BRICS.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Escobar is simply a serial fantasist. The alt-media Luke Harding.

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R. Baker's avatar

I think you fail to understand what BRICS is, the free association of Multipolarist nations. It's not the association of the satraps and clones of America (Unipolarism).

Escobar's job is not to nitpick at everybody who belongs to BRICS. He's just hitting the high notes, there's not enough time in the day to be that comprehensive.

BRICS fans realize there are countries that belong that you wouldn't want to live in, true. But "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Likely your main complaint about BRICS is overcoming your distaste for China's seeming dominance of it. Please rethink the need for national rivalry, that is how the US thinks.

Ask yourself, when was the last time China invaded anyone? And not the formerly uninhabited parcells that it has claimed since the 1600's. The US main beef with China is that China gets irritated every time we Americans run naval war games 100 miles off its main Coast. Who does that and isn't a provocateur?

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marcomartim's avatar

I still remember China invading North Vietnam right after the US left and having to flee as well.

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R. Baker's avatar

If you dig deep into why China took a few towns along the border with Vietnam in 1979, for two months, you'd find that minorities within Vietnam who were deemed by Hanoi to be "pro Chinese" were being starved out and/or executed.

When China invaded it was to "retrieve" thousands of those minorities that were thronging along the border areas, before their deaths.

The minorities were deemed "pro Chinese" by Hanoi simply as an excuse to ethnically cleanse them. Just like Germans did to Jews, and Kiev did to citizens of the Donbass.

This is exactly why Russia went as far as Kiev in 2022, to allow ethnic Russians a chance to get out of Eastern Ukraine under the protection of the Russian army.

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marcomartim's avatar

Escobar, the Brazilian "communist" who lives in Paris and loves expensive wines, is called the caviar left or the Ifone left in his own country. There's a huge gap between rhetoric and practice. The clash in Brazil is between Escobar's left, represented by bureaucrats who exploit the state, alienating a significant portion of the poor with state handouts, and a conservative middle class that is the workhorse of the system.

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Married With Bears's avatar

Jails, asylums, and government elderly homes are the last institutions to modernize in Russia away from their Soviet roots. It makes sense - they're shielded from public view, and there were a LOT of problems across every front that have needed addressing since the collapse of the USSR.

I have a friend who was active in civil society efforts to improve an asylum. There's groups like that across the country, and it's been ongoing for a long time now. I think it's gotten better.

I haven't heard about the elderly homes that take in people who have no family and can no longer live on their own. I assume similar efforts to improve them have taken place.

I don't get the sense that Russian prisons are particularly violence-filled, or anything like the horror that are American penitentiaries. They seem very rigid in their discipline - prisoners never have free time, and sentences involve labor. The convict conscription during the siege of Bakhmut probably has had a very real impact on the penal system. Forty thousand convicts died, and the maybe fifteen thousand that survived have mostly done well; they were given apartments, a lump sum of money to start over with, and many of them went into the army or stayed in PMCs.

They were the "hard core" cases. I knew someone who had five years left for possession of marijuana (it's treated the same as heroin and hard drugs), and he had no interest in the amnesty-for-service deal. I got the sense that no one in similar circumstances did either; it was all people serving very long sentences who joined.

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arthur brogard's avatar

the little thing i don't like about russian prisons is maybe a nothing to everyone else - it is that habit of making them walk bent over all the time. something about that deeply disturbs me. I know no more.

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Denis's avatar

"5 years left for pot possession". Wow. Most Canadians would be in jail. That's insane. Weed has medicinal value. Yet it's acceptable in Russia to booze it up to extremes. Thanks for the input.

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Married With Bears's avatar

I think the medicinal value of marijuana is grossly overstated by people who just like smoking it. There are other anti-nauseants that are more effective for people undergoing chemotherapy. It's treated under Russian law the same as amphetamine, heroin, fentanyl, and other heavy drugs.

It's pretty common for Russian men to have tried it, either in university or in the army. It's not uncommon to smell it on the streets periodically in the capital cities. People grow it indoors on a small scale. Russian women are almost universally militantly against marijuana - and that's why the harsh laws remain. They see it as a gateway to all sorts of evils.

Drinking culture has changed radically. It's no longer acceptable to drink excessively. Putin spearheaded raises taxes on alcohol and tobacco significantly over the past decade and a half, and severely limiting where you can smoke and the hours and places you can buy either. I would guess it's now more similar to German or U.S. norms for both. Vaping is big, you see it out and about pretty often.

You no longer see groups of people sharing a bottle of vodka in public. A husband and a wife drinking a beer walking in the park with their kids is common (Russians don't consider beer a true "alcoholic beverage" and rarely drink many, if you want to get drunk, it's hard alcohol or wine). Two decades ago, concluding a business deal was done in someone's office that had a sofa, with a bottle or more of good alcohol and snacks, or at a country house with the same and a sauna. Now it's at a restaurant with a beer.

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Denis's avatar

Thanks for the detailed response, Bear.

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R. Baker's avatar

Yup, you can tell a lot by the US's over 2 million prisoners, highest rate in the world, and the horrors done in those joints. The big diff is in American prisons fellow inmates are the danger, in Russia ones they have stricter discipline that forestalls it.

If the US didn't incarcerate at that rate, it would be too dangerous to walk down the street. I asked a Russian friend about gun ownership in Russia, he said you didn't need one anyway. I told him in America you sure do.

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arthur brogard's avatar

That is interesting if correct. I know it is widely believed at least in some cities. Can you vouch for it and give references perhaps? A most important metric might be how many gun owners actually used their guns for protection, either numbers or a percentage?

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R. Baker's avatar

Travel is a good teacher Arthur. So is Google.

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Natalia V's avatar

Why do you think of jail time? Be decent and polite, you are fine. I was only threatened with a gun twice. Both times in America ( great neighborhoods)

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arthur brogard's avatar

was this post really directed at me? seems to have no connection with anything i've done or said...

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Denis's avatar

It could be a bot with a pretty picture to deceive, Arthur. The same happened to me.

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arthur brogard's avatar

I didn't think of that but I should. You're probably right. thanks. :)

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jsarnak's avatar

It is obvious you know of Russia what you read in the corporate corrupt media. Do you realize what you sound like to the people that have knowledge of Russia??

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arthur brogard's avatar

that's an ad hominem comment. does not further discussion at all.

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R. Baker's avatar

Google "ad hominem, definition". To me, this doesn't rise to the level of ad hominem.

Ad hominem must be an emotionally charged personal attack. I think that Jsarnak adroitly made a compare and contrast of your comment to it's opposite.

He's pointing out that the Western narrative is heavily biased.

It's well within the fabric of classic exchange.

It's easy to find literally scores of Western expat podcasters living in or visiting Russia, walking around with cameras, and see for yourself what it's like there.

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Dhdh's avatar
Sep 3Edited

as opposed to going to jail in the UK for naming the jew, calling out the jew genocide in Palestine, or opposing the non-white invasion? pajeet rape gangs roam free.... j

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Natalia V's avatar

ou live in the Soviet Union

Russia has more free speech than the USA. Two people were arrested yesterday for not supporting genocide in Gaza. One of them is a colonel.

My personal friends support Putin or not but they live in Russia and work as usual

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Denis's avatar

Thanks for the kind words, dear.

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Rocktime's avatar

My family (all American) and I moved from the US to Russia (Moscow) 1.5 years ago. I just returned from a short 2-week trip to the US -- man, what a contrast. The trip reminded me what a shithole the US has become. After 1.5 years in Moscow I kinda started forgetting it. Good luck with your move, François, you won't regret it! Moscow is amazing, incredible, simply the best city in the world to live in!

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

Moscow... well, I recommend St. Petersburg. Moscow may be good, but St. Petersburg is beautiful.

By the way, you won't find graffiti in ANY city in Russia unless it's truly artistic...

As they say in Russia...

"A society that has accepted the vandalism of its houses is a dying society."

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Roman's avatar
Sep 3Edited

As someone who lives in St Pete I fully agree. Not only beautiful, but also quieter than Moscow, with just as much culture to consume as in Moscow but at much lower price. Wide variety of places to eat, again at much lower cost than in Moscow. Around St Pete there are a number of truly beautiful historical places, where you can go many times but still find something new. And last, but not the least - St Pete is a seaside city, and if one is into sailing it is a place to be in Russia. Not only Baltic, but add to sea experience truly big lake (even called "See" on German maps) - Ladoga, also sailable with beautiful Scandinavian landscapes.

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Rocktime's avatar

Fully support both Jürgen and Roman re St. Pete! The city is the most cultured and architecturally breathtaking in Russia. Moscow is beautiful, super efficient, and very business-like. So, depending on what one prefers, both are a great choice. Explore Kazan, Ufa, and Yekaterinburg as well. I have been to all of them and can easily imagine myself living there as well. And some people like Sochi (Black sea, lots of sun and all), though it is quite touristy, IMHO.

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Roman's avatar

Sochi is very touristy and has to go a looooong way to improve. But around Sochi there are a lot of less known places, like for example all-year-round ski/ mountain resort of Rosa Khutor/Krasnaya Polyana, which is a true gem. I was really surprised to see in this August a lot of tourists from Middle East there. How they have found out about is a mystery to me.

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Married With Bears's avatar

I've thought about moving down the Black Sea, maybe the northern rim like Galendzhik. Houses anywhere in that area (including Sochi) are really expensive, with very small yards - 3 or 4 "sotok" (or hundredths of a hectare, 2.5 English acres = 1 hectare).

I'm hoping maybe Russia takes Odessa for selfish reasons. The seashore is sand (also in the Azov Sea like Mariupol) instead of rock like the rest of the Russian frontage on the Black Sea, and it's warmer too. I would guess housing might be cheaper after the war.

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arthur brogard's avatar

Makes me wonder how virtually everyone ever commenting on a city always mentions 'plenty of places to eat'. I never eat out. Never.

I doubt I would ever go to a city again but if I did and wanted a preparatory 'heads up' I would like to know:

. are there many public spaces and pleasant ones?

. are there many public conveniences and clean ones?

. is drinking water freely available around the city?

. is public transport clean, frequent, comfortable etc?

. are there many 'institutions' ( museums, art galleries, etc ) open to the public?

. are such instititions of a high quality and are they cheap of access?

. does the local bureaucracy function smoothly and helpfully?

. are police prominent in the place and viewed as somewhat of a threat or as a help?

. what are the typical homes of the residents like - apartments or free standing dwellings?

and so on.

too much to go on about. If living in a city there's a world of difference between living in some far flung suburb of it or in the CBD or inner city suburbs for instance and those particular areas can vary between good and bad very easily.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Yep. Why is everyone today always eating and nibbling all day long?

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arthur brogard's avatar

I seriously think it is because of sugar and refined flour. They never feel full. Because they have that quality, they are mildly addictive, they are 'more-ish', you always want more.

And the level of sugars is insidiously rising all the time via the ubiquity of high fructose corn syrup.

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Sarge's avatar

Good morning. In your opinion, could an American move to Russia and eventually be able to assimilate, learn basic Russian, be accepted by neighbors, etc? Thank you for any thoughts you may have, and have a great day!

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Albertron's avatar

Good question.

I understand this is possible assuming you have moved there with a Russian spouse, otherwise it is very difficult.

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Roman's avatar

Of course language is biggest obstacle. And as Alberton says Russian spouse is a great help as not only she can help you, but she will be able to broaden your social horizon very quick, as she has her local family and friends.

Her are some stories from 2024 about some Americans who moved to Russia to take up farming. It is in Russian, but I think it can be auto translated easily.

https://russkiymir.ru/publications/326496/

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Roman's avatar
Sep 3Edited

One more thing. Here is a Youtube channel of a middle-aged British guy who moved alone to Vladimir, a provincial small town in European part of Russia. His experience may answer some of your questions, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/@SamsRussianAdventures

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Sarge's avatar

Thank you!

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arthur brogard's avatar

could you move to an idiomatic part of america, learn their idioms and be able to assimilate, be accepted by neighbours etc?

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dacoelec's avatar

I'm in a rural Missouri community surrounded by the largest group of Amish in Missouri. If you don't have purple hair and are LGBTQ or some other idiot lifestyle, you would be accepted in a flash. There are even a few of those kind here, but they are very fringe and typically don't have many friends.

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bgd's avatar

I love Russia and especially Moscow - a truly beautiful country and a beautiful city. However, your comment about graffiti in Russia is way off the mark - alas, even in Moscow. As you leave Moscow by train you will see the walls surrounding the track covered in graffiti, and no it is not all artistic.

I have yet to visit a Russian city that doesn't have graffiti. Much of it is a holdover from the terrible 90s, but too much of it is current. It's not so much gangs as teenage kids imitating the West and thinking it's cool.

With the SMO Russia has more important areas to focus its attention on. However, I hope when the SMO is over they do turn their attention to graffiti and begin to eradicate it. Perhaps a newfound pride in country will obviate the desire to do it. Given the pride citizens had in the Soviet Union it would have been inconceivable for anyone to think about graffiti, or to throw trash on the street for that matter.

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Married With Bears's avatar

You see graffiti on freight train cars and on the concrete walls where trains move through cities. I see it every once in a while - but it's obviously teens doing it, and it's not systemic. Someone tagged the little magazine stand at the end of my apartment block and it took the owner a long time to clean it up.

Moscow has jobs. St. Petersburg is for artists and musicians.

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Roman's avatar

Here is some artsy-fartsy graffities in St Pete

https://suhobskaya.ru/luchshie-graffiti-peterburga/

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CC's avatar
Sep 3Edited

Please everybody, stop talking of moving to Russia. It’s just too painful for those who’re stuck in Europe.

My god, to think the hopes I started my adult life with over forty years ago and the shit I see around me. And it’s not that I messed up, I stuck to the straight and narrow all my life, attended ALL my lessons, paid attention, did my homework and proceeded to work my arse off in something I believed in. My friendships are great but the social environment is hell. I moved to a small city that had a very decent quality of life and it’s turned into a shithole. This morning it was raining here, I took a bus to work, three stops. £2.40! Raining buckets, bus two thirds empty (understandably). How can you take this country seriously?

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arthur brogard's avatar

Good for you to draw attention to 'those who remain'. that's really what it is all about. 90% of the world 'remains'. Is stuck where it is.

The problem is simple in description.

It is the lack of governance by the people.

Nominally all over the world today we are democratically organised, one way or the other. All rule by people we elect. All supposedly seeing our own wishes expressed in the environment around us.

That's nominally. That's the name of the game.

But in fact we make a vote once every few years which does nothing more than help another one of the same identical useless leeches into power.

And then we settle down and have no further interaction.

See?

Whereas we should be controlling those people most of us don't even know their names or where their offices are or how to contact them or what they spend their time doing.

So: we either wake up and take control.

Or we accept we really want to be 'run' by effectively dictators and be eternally praying the next dictator will fix everything.

Got to make up our minds.

We could start by giving ourselves an app wherein we could express our minds and know ourselves and what we are expressing.

I think you'll find this suggestion will garner very, very little support and it is only a first step. So it looks to me like: docile dictatorship is the future for mankind.

But there's that slim chance. Miracles do happen.

https://abrogard.com/blog/2023/12/25/dont-write-to-congress/

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Albertron's avatar

Also you never get to vote for the true decision makers, they operate behind the scenes at many levels in the myriad quangos and other organisations.

We need to dismantle them all.

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Tim's avatar
Sep 3Edited

Problem is, the question has to be asked, "Who did you vote for?"

Because regardless of whom, you were voting for your own extermination.

The "party system" is basically to blame, then.

Nobody gets within a million miles of those hallowed halls unless they agree to "party policy" first - and that always involves kow towing to the City of London, and its jewish incumbents.

Probably few realise that there is an unelected person who sits near the Speaker's chair - he is called "The Remembrancer," and his job is not to participate in debates, but to report back to the City what is decided on, and if that is not to the liking of the City, then, shall we say, "certain actions" are taken.

This explains the rapid exit of Liz Truss and her Chancellor Kwarteng from their positions recently.

National Socialism showed how a nation should be run; and we not only destroyed the system, but murdered all of its proponents.

There was even a jewish plot post-war to poison six million more.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Holy smokes, did I peg you wrong, up above, Webb. My apologies for that, in case you should ever see this.

(I will never bow to the Jewish god, I see it as something else entirely. No, not even in the afterlife, of which I know far, far more than the religious do. Not a brag, nor derogation of the Christians, please don't think it so.)

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Steghorn21's avatar

You speak for so many of us, mate!

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

It was pouring with rain here this morning. I took the bus to work, three stops. £2.40!

Well then, come to my hometown of Leipzig. For one stop, or from one stop by bus or tram, you pay €3.75 today, and for the train, even €4.50, but both only apply to (Outskirts ) a certain distance. If you want to continue, you have to pay extra.

By the way, an example of why the cost of living matters more than income or the difference in the West here in Germany.

I'm currently in St. Petersburg, where I currently pay the equivalent of €0.12 per kW for energy in €, €0.42 in LE, petrol in LE about €1.68, here €0.67.

Rent for 60 m2 LE €590, ...here for 75 m2 €356, fully furnished, including a cooking pot and coffee cup. A piece of cake at the bakery in LE costs around €2.90-3.20, here €0.85-1.00. A cup of coffee in LE costs from €2.50-2.90 in a paper cup. Here €0.35-0.45 (meaning that in Germany, as a pensioner, you should consider whether to buy coffee and cake outside your home.

Just once, because in Germany, the opinion prevails that €790 income in Russia is low. This €790 corresponds to a net income of around €2,000 in Germany. I receive a pension here from Germany, which would be taxed in Germany. Yes, you heard right, in Germany, pensions paid in over the years are taxed upon payout, but I receive this gross amount transferred here as around €1,200 per month. By the way, that's for about 49 years of payments.

My neighbor here, a native Russian pensioner and former industrial worker, receives the equivalent of around €930. Just for your information.

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Steghorn21's avatar

I'm an old Cold War Warrior (UK Navy). If you'd have told me back in the early 80s that Russia would come to symbolise the values of Western Civilisation in 2025 and that the West would be doing everything it can to destroy those values, I would have spat in your face. What a turnaround.

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Married With Bears's avatar

Definitely, f@ck allowing right turns on a red light! I'm so accustomed to being a pedestrian here in Russia that the last time I visited the U.S., I nearly got hit by drivers several times.

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dacoelec's avatar

😳🙏👍

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R. Baker's avatar

Don't forget Krasnodar. Not as big (1 million) but better weather.

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George's avatar

If I was alone I would seriously consider it myself. My country (Greece) is dying thanks to the Germans having killed our economy (and refusing to pay the war loan and reparations), and our politicians allowing and participating in scandals and mass immigration.

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John Osman's avatar

George if you emigrate won't you find yourself surrounded by foreigners?

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George's avatar

Yes and no. Russians are Orthodox Christians as myself (we made them by sending them Cyril and Methodius), the principles of the society are similar to traditional Greek values. Also many Greeks live there specially in places near the Black Sea which were in ancient times Greek colonies. The only problem is the language but if someone is willing enough ...

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John Osman's avatar

George my friend if you can learn Greek, I am sure you'll learn Russian. 👍

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Tim's avatar
Sep 3Edited

I was in Sozopol for a few days recently.

The locals seemed to think the name comes from the Greek for "Saved City" but I wasn't so sure, as "saved" is more like "Sotor."

On the Black Sea coast.

There was a place nearby called "something-Potamos, " and I mentioned to my Bulgarian friend that that was the Greek word for a river - he was quite surprised, and hadn't realised.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

You can emigrate and become a foreigner to the people of your new residence. But it is a very different thing to be a culturally close foreigner and a complete alien.

The problem of Europeans is that in two generations they will be aliens in their ancestral lands.

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Ngungu's avatar

They have no more money for reparations, all given to the talmudic/torahic genocidal sewer.

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Tatjana's avatar

I WILL NOT leave the land of my ancestors, I WILL NOT let the criminal elites steal it away from us! Our grandfathers and fathers built the country, therefore it belongs to our children and grandchildren!!! WE WILL FIGHT FOR OUR HOMELAND!

And I propose you do so too, if you wish to preserve self-respect.

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marcomartim's avatar

Your grandchildren will be dark-skinned and will pray on a rug with their butts in the air and facing Mecca.

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jsarnak's avatar

I live in the US and I have begun to look into a visa, they have changed many requirements for a 3 year temporary residence in Russia without needing to know the language fluently. That is my biggest worry, I am terrible at other languages, especially at 61 years old. I do not even feel at "home" here where I live. I never thought I would ever consider leaving the U.S.

Just imagine an American can be banned from social media for criticizing Israel. People are being fired, thankfully I will never have to work for any corporation again, but I am sure the Govt. is going to continue to squeeze the people who dare to think for themselves.

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pyrrhus's avatar

It's no wonder....Putin and Xi are head and shoulders better than any of the rulers in the West...And they will pursue their vision of peace, economic development and national sovereignty right to the end...

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Gerald Cummings's avatar

Today, watching the 80th celebration in Beijing of the end of WW2, I sat memorized by Pres Xi's speech and the following military parade, the precision movements, the choreogeaphed movement of soldiers and machinery. I thought back to Trump's birthday parade in Washington where we witnessed a demoralized, poorly dressed, poorly disciplined army group shuffle in front of the "emperor" and his entourage. The contrast between the two parades was a night and day display of who is on the rise and who is on the decline.

The SCO meetings a few days ago also exposed the difference in leaders; Xi, Putin and Modi standing having a good laugh together; we don't know why they were laughing, but maybe Putin told the other two how he hoodwinked Trump, again.

Trump is a sick man, that is obvious, and he does nothing to make his health any better. It may be he will be gone from the scene by this time next year, to be replaced by someone with less charisma and brains than what he is replacing.

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arthur brogard's avatar

You might laugh with glee and scorn at the destruction of the 'empire of lies' and that's fair enough. When you are talking about the thieving, lying bloodthirsty scoundrels who represent and run that 'empire'.

But we do ourselves a disservice if we laugh at and scorn 350 million american people most of whom are simply hard working 'peasants' as all of us in the world and who only made the same cardinal mistake we all make: trust their government and fail to keep an eye on them and participate in running the country.

If we cannot build a future that incorporates them as friends and fellow workers in the world we won't have built a future at all.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

Of course it is better a future with that part of the American people that conserve the old moral standards of the country.

But one should not go as far a saying that a future without them is impossible.

Many empires lost their relevance and the world kept on going around without them. For 150 years Spain was what the US has been in the XXth century, then became irrelevant.

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marcomartim's avatar

"But we do ourselves a disservice if we laugh at and scorn 350 million american people most of whom are simply hard working 'peasants' "

Where are you from, Narnia? There are certainly some native workers, but I've seen nearly empty fields with a few Latinos doing the hard work, cities full of feminists and prostitutes filling offices, crowds of lazy fat people, cocaine addicts, blue-haired young people, and a lot of Woke and LGBTQ+ people.

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arthur brogard's avatar

here you go, sunshine. i got it from deepseek. you could have got it, too.

"You've presented a caricature of America based on stereotypes, not reality. The data paints a very different picture:

Over 82% of the U.S. workforce is native-born. While immigrants play a crucial and outsized role in sectors like agriculture, the idea that native-born Americans aren't working is false.

Over 167 million Americans are currently in the labor force. They are working in fields, factories, offices, hospitals, and schools. The vast majority are not addicted to drugs; they are people trying to support themselves and their families.

Offices are filled with professionals—engineers, accountants, nurses, managers—nearly half of whom are women. To describe them with a derogatory term is to disrespect a huge portion of our economy.

LGBTQ+ people constitute millions of our coworkers, neighbors, and family members. They are an integral part of the American fabric and workforce.

It's easier to dismiss 350 million people with a series of ugly stereotypes than it is to acknowledge the complex, diverse reality of a nation of individuals. My original point stands: we do ourselves a disservice when we scorn the ordinary hardworking people of this country based on reductive and false narratives."

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marcomartim's avatar

We've already made progress here, from 350 million, most of whom were working peasants, down to 167 million. That's still a good number. There are still valuable people in that number, but their numbers are shrinking, and that doesn't invalidate my point. Of those 167 million, many are not even a shadow of the peasants of the past who truly worked hard to build the American colossus. Among them are many "recreational" drug users, the largest prison population on the planet, the largest number of cocaine, heroin, and fentanyl users in the world. Therefore, there are also many drug dealers, there are also many lazy fat people, feminists, atheists, Satanists, sluts, con artists, depraved people, LGBT+ people, and Wokes, etc. I don't care if many people in this horde of degenerates formally have jobs; they are part of the scum of humanity with a guaranteed ticket to hell. They are the cause of the putrefaction in the social fabric and the economic and moral decay that is accelerating in the US.

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arthur brogard's avatar

we are not on the same page, talking the same language, talking about the same thing.

I meant, for instance, 'peasant' figuratively - meaning to include every wageslave or mortgage slave in the figure.

You seem to be thinking of literal subsistence farming serfs.

It seems clear you simply want to express an opinion: that one expressed I think in your last three sentences.

Well that's fine. That's your business.

But you don't need to hang it off any of my posts. It has nothing to do with me.

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Tim's avatar

I happen to lip read in Russian, so I can tell you, Putin was telling the joke about how, if there's a fly in your soup in Europe, the dish is taken away; if it is found in Israel, it is sued over, but if found in a Chinese restaurant, additional ones are added.

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dacoelec's avatar

🤣🤣🤣. Protein my good chap, protein.

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Tim's avatar

Looking ahead, I can see a NWO - but ruled over by Gentiles, not jews.

The jew plan, including the Kalergi part of it, has blown up in their face, and their "all or nothing" gamble on defeating Russia via Ukraine and NATO has similarly self-destructed.

I just wish Senator McCain could be alive to witness the "gas station plus nukes" he used to like to talk about, now firmly in the driving seat.

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dacoelec's avatar

He's watching alright, because that's part of his punishment. All the while slapping at the flames on his azz.🤣

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marcomartim's avatar

He's somewhere in hell watching this while being fucked by a Vietnamese-looking demon.

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marcomartim's avatar

Considering their age, this end is near, after that no one knows...

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JG's avatar

the Sun rises in the East🌅thank you my pal💙🇷🇺🇮🇳🇨🇳❤️

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ann watson's avatar

The entire fall of the west has been under the control of Jewish power and lobbies. Of course there has to be servile and corrupt politicians to enable this. Its still a mystery to me. that speech that vonderlayan gave in her mantle - same exact pattern and Klaus Schwab's from the beginning of the covid era - a secret society garment - and she was praising the Talmud. A clear sign of Jewish power. Thank God is not ruling the east too. But as the Ukraine has been de-populated of fighting men, and Greater Israel is trying to spread up the the border of Ukraine, how will Russia cope ? I do think that zionism is the problem, but wasn't Chabad Lubitvz created by zionists ? And is very popular in Russia.

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Victor's avatar

"but wasn't Chabad Lubitvz created by zionists ?"

Likely the other way around. Zionism as an actual movement lifted its head in the early 1800s and was formalised by Theodore Herzl later that century.

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ann watson's avatar

I see....I hadn't thought of that. Someone told me Zionism is outlawed in Russia - also Iran...both having large Jewish populations. I've even read recently that Iran is ignoring the Jewish problem, and saying its all very peaceful with the jews in Iran. Even though the tribe always puts themselves before all else. I hope that's wrong and Iran's right. The Jews that are anti-zionist seem like beneficial additions to any society. But the chicken twirling third temple weirdo extremists - are they Chabad Lubavitz ?

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Don Johnson's avatar

Interesting.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

Ann, Yesterday I came across blogs on yt by a Dmitri Lascaris, a Canadian of Greek/Cypriot heritage as far as I can tell. His journalism is very illuminating with regards to the Israeli expansion into Cyprus, involving the purchase of literally 1000s of businesses, real estate and the building of large housing development projects. In one of his interviews (sorry didn't catch the name of the woman) it was explained how Cyprus has been part of the Greater Israel plan since the 1890s. Anyway, for anyone interested Mr Lascaris is well worth a watch, particularly his observations about the Akrotiri UK SBT and it's history and use of "human shields" by parking military aircraft at civilian airports. Kind regards.

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ann watson's avatar

Interesting - thanks for the tip - I might try to search for that youtube of Dimitri - I like him too. Yes, they steal the best land. And these genocidalists claim the Old Testament - for themselves. Its not theirs. The Old Testament belongs to Christians. Its the heritage of ourSaviour. Elijah is our Prophet. Not some Turks from Khazaria.

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dacoelec's avatar

They use the Babylonian Talmud, not the old Testament. They utterly corrupted the Torah while they were in Babylonian captivity. Jesus told them in John 8:44 that their father was the devil.

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ann watson's avatar

Yes, but individual ashkenazis - even one that I know - claim that the Old Testament was written by them. That's why I said what I said. It caught me offguard when he said it. But I've been thinking about that. Elijah belongs to all of us - especially Christians, because the reason the Old Testament was attached onto the New Testament is because of Jesus. Its the story of why the Hebrews are called 'The Chosen People " Christ chose them to incarnate into. That is actually a history of Christianity's very beginnings. And that's probably why these satanists don't use it ( but still claim it for their own ) because anything Christian burns them.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Jesus was White. That is why he was a vessel fit to manifest the Divine - that is why they hate him, and what they tried to steal.

He was Nazarene, descended from the Aryan Benjamites, converts, with a Roman father and a partially Semitic mother, born hidden on a pretext, raised in a Jewish culture by a Jewish stepfather in a foreign country (Alexandria), because he was the Secret Prince - heir not only to the throne of Israel, but to the the throne of Rome itself, as the illegitimate son and only heir of Tiberius, with the Israeli princess Mariamne Herodius, Mother Mari. Joseph was a widower with two daughters already grown, sworn to protect the most important political baby in the known world.

A "son of the holy ghost" was Roman slang, akin to "a son of Zeus, of the gods, of the Allfather", meaning "I dare not or cannot tell you who his father is." (Pantera the Ossetian, the story spread by Celebes the Greek in the 2nd Century, was Tiberius' "street name" when he wanted to escape his Praetorian guards.)

This in no way counteracts him being infused with divinity. Even the poorest could see in Him something more. His Roman patrimony meant that the Senate in the 4th Century could legally declare him divine per Roman custom.

Heed, the Jewish god is not the Creator Jesus referred to, because they do not have a Heaven. Their messianic vision is to inherit an Earth molded to their dominion - and the god they hear is likewise only able to claim this domain as his kingdom. You know him as the Rex Mundi.

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ann watson's avatar

what total garbage you speak. Anyway - its your life. I'm not going to engage anymore with you.

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Alzaebo's avatar

They weren't in Babylonian captivity. They ran banking houses such as Mubartu and Ergibil selling slaves. Captivity? What were they doing, building pyramids in the off season like in Egypt, so they could pay for the grain they begged?

(A hard lot when they'd rather be selling boys in the temples, running the administration as priest-scribes, taxing Egypt into penury, and undermining the religion and authority of the Pharoahs.)

They had betrayed the Aryan Ten Tribes with false accusation so that they might buy themselves both dominion of the province, and a quarter in the capital. From that quarter, they opened their gate to Cyrus.

Betrayal of their benefactors is a constant refrain for "victory" since Abraham the Lucifer himself, the "right hand man", "beloved of the Lord Ham", the HIgh Chamberlain ("Morning Star"), that took a third of the nobles and tried to kill his lord when his lord king told him to knock off the slave raids on the tribute-paying neighbors.

"What? Me? We Dindu Nuffin'!" they explained, when asked why they had to flee civilization after the king's bodyguard, the Host, prevented the attempted insurrection.

(Including their false accusation of the poor Molochites, their children dead in a plague and "given back to the gods" as were stillborns and children died young, in traditional hygenic cremation. Abe's shysters promoted burial so they could be resurrected - which actually began as a ruse so they could murder household retainers at the master's death without riot.

At a time when owning enough metal for a helmet, a breastplate, and a sword meant you were rich enough to be a knight, they claimed the clay crematory kilns and funerary urns were a "giant metal statue swallowing live children into its fiery maw!" - whilst they practiced child sacrifice in secret groves themselves for blood magic.

Abraham's raiders desired the ravine of Gehenna with its freshwater spring, a natural fortress, as a raiding base from which they could take the city of the Jebusites, Jerusalem.)

Read their revised Book, again. Betrayal is their core strategy, their key to a Pyrrhic victory over every civilization that let them in. The Book is on one hand political propaganda, couched in esoteric messaging, that chronicles a race war - on the other, it is a war manual against our peoples above all.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Yes. Cyprus. The next Jewish State and the Greeks and Turks pushed out.

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Tim's avatar

She - or "it" as I prefer to describe her - is also very keen on an orange jacket - orange is not chosen because it suits her - if that were the case, grey/green would be more appropriate - but because its letters sum to 33, and they are all about jewish mysticism.

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ann watson's avatar

I see.

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TheSGC's avatar

I need a Simplicius breakdown comparison between the Russian, American, and Chinese military parades. What his thoughts are on the goyim slop fest that was held in DC vs the one in Moscow and Beijing

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James B.'s avatar

Why? Isn't it obvious which one of your three options looked, felt and sounded like a caricature, devoid of any dignity? —Brought to you by our awesome sponsor, Palantir! /sarc

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TheSGC's avatar

Indeed, indeed! - this agreement sponsored by....THE BOEING COMPANY

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Scott's avatar

“the deputy of the Kiev City Council, an officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Alexander Pogrebissky”

Small world. I worked in Philadelphia for a software company founded by Steve Pogrebivski, a Ukranian from Kiev whose family had fled religious oppression to come to America - back in days of old Soviet Union, of course!

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BJ's avatar

Is it just me or did Xi's parade route seem reminiscent of Hitlers?

Is there really any doubt why they deliberately installed Forest Gump Trump in the WH to expediate and conclude the end of the USA?

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Antipodes's avatar

haha Forest Trump.

That could stick

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Victor's avatar

It's just you. It was a professional military parade, just like any modern military (with the exception of Trump's) would put on.

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Simon Robinson's avatar

As for a British Military Parade; Blink and you'd miss it !

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Victor's avatar

😂🤣

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Steghorn21's avatar

And a fly-past by the Irish Navy

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John Osman's avatar

Who is "they " BJ?

Wasn't it the American people who chose Trump?

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BJ's avatar

I say this with all due respect as Trump said himself he could shoot someone on 5th and still not lose any supporters . . . .

You do not run the weakest candidate in the history of politics against Trump if you did not want him in the WH. Although the fines have since been (remarkably) repealed (no corruption there though and only for the time being) the 36 counts of felony remain intact. The man is a total fraud and always has been as solidified and irrefutably proven during the trial.

They have the ability to "make" and break anyone. Just like they sold Obama. He too was another fraud. Mr. 57 States and Austria has it's own language - corpse instead of U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

Donald Trump has and always will be a mirage. Like Obama he too was deliberately inserted - because Trump is the greatest intentional diversion and distraction also in the history of politics. One can only imagine all that is going on behind the scenes while the entire world remains focused on this buffoon. Everyone knows the POTUS has always been nothing more than a face puppet but they hit paydirt with Trump.

Just a matter of time before they get rid of him just like they got rid of Biden when they were done using him. It was blindingly obvious Joe had dementia back in 2018 but, just like with Trump - they can hide/mask everything and then throw them under the bus when they're done.

You would have to be as dumb as Donald Trump not to see just how severely learning disabled the man is. It's all political theater and Trump deserves an Emmy!

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Kennewick Man's avatar

The news for US domestic consumption is toned down to the extreme concerning the Chinese events. The fact that Trump was unable to bag even India as a proxy is an incredible blow to US geopolitical goals but this damage goes back all the way to 1991 when Russia was denied a proper place in the Western World. Visualize a West with a robust Russian economy incorporated, flooding Western Europe with cheap fossil fules while China’s economy and military was generally suffering from arrested development. A very different world.

Zelensky offering free border crossing to the 18 to 22 age group men is a nasty act. It points toward an intentional depopulation. This age group of males are the most likely to settle in Western nations and never come back except maybe to marry.

As far as that group photo is concerned; it is very charming (for men like me who like women). I am submitting an application to that university in Kiev and I am planning to take classes in Synchronized Swimming:)).

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Be careful of that Kiev University! I sense a trap, and you might find yourself at the front before the first day of your swimming class.

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Victor's avatar

Yes, I suspect Kennewick is a bit over 25 - prime age for the front.

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Kennewick Man's avatar

They will never get me alive!

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Kennewick Man's avatar

Thanks, I will keep that in mind.

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Don Johnson's avatar

Go for the beach volleyball 😋

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

The beaches of the Black Sea have recently become very unhealthy.

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Robert's avatar

Someone speculated the nationalistic right wing factions may be trying to preserve racial purity by saving 18-20yo men.

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Bryan Goh's avatar

How are the nationalists going to get those 18-20 year old men back from Europe later?

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Alzaebo's avatar

If the muslims can implant their young nationalists, I say we should do the same. Better it would be if they didn't have to come back home, but brought home to visit the no-go zones.

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marcomartim's avatar

In fact, they are saving their children from shipwreck, they know that war is a lost cause, agreement or defeat is near, they prefer to keep their offspring away from war or Russian control to save the ethnicity and try again in the next generation.

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VHMan's avatar

“Synchronized Swimming”. <hee, hee> Love it.

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Glasshopper's avatar

Yep. Spurning Russia was a disastrous move for The West. And the making of the East.

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Kennewick Man's avatar

And I was punished from above, had to live with this clear understanding for long decades. Fact is that this was also obvious for the overwhelming majority of experienced political scientists but (((they))) kicked them into submission. That was censorship on steroids.

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Alzaebo's avatar

"...this damage goes back all the way to 1991 when Russia was denied a proper place in the Western World. Visualize a West with a robust Russian economy incorporated, flooding Western Europe with cheap fossil fules while China’s economy and military was generally suffering from arrested development."

The Chinese were practically still a bicycle economy.

While I suspect they became the Plan B of the World Planners as the USSR collapsed, the fallback Communist country with a bonus of slave labor to entice the greed-heads and the anally-focused MBAs - stripping everything of any value not found on a spreadsheet - China had never recovered from WWII or our playing in its backyard.

That is, until California's CALPERS system, and other pension systems in other states, decided to invest 20% of their funds into China's Red Chips - I don't know if a stock market or publicly-traded corporations even existed in a Communist country.

The one thing, the ONE thing the World Planners dread, what must never be allowed to come to fruition - is a re-united White world. If Russia and America were to mend their division and join hands again across the Bering Strait - Tsaress Catherine was our best friend beyond France in the Revolution, and in the War of 1812 - we could go on to save Europe and the Commonwealth.

What They fear most is the mighty White Colossus of the North, before whom none could stand, not even the teeming, bickering hordes of the Global South.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

Speaking about photographs, allow me a moment of frivolity.

Have you noticed that Macron is growing enormously?

In the last photo he is already nearly as tall as Trump who is I think 1.90.

In one year, Macron seems to have grown at least 15 cms.

It must be some potion recipe of a gallic druid that the French have found somewhere.

I hope this product come into trade as soon as possible.

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

I taught a little course at that university 20 years ago and indeed there was a fairly good amount of beautiful young women in those desks.

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dacoelec's avatar

ROFLMAO!

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Denis's avatar
Sep 3Edited

I have been hearing about the demise of the West for over 20 years, yet the party continues. By the time the Empire crumbles, we'll be ushered into Agenda 2030 globally. marked by CBDCs, credit scores, 5-minute cities, pod living, all under the watchful eye of Big Brother. Anyone 60 and over has a bullseye on their head because they don't want to pay out their earned pensions or cover their medical expenses. It reminds me of the $50 voucher I had, cashable with proof of vaccination. If I ain't taking it for a million, why would I for chump change. My spouse quit nursing, refusing to take the illegally mandated toxic sludge. You need to be proactive to survive the cull as part 2 nears. The plan is to reduce the population by at least 4 billion. We are living the movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" with Donald Sutherland.

Where will you run?

Where will you hide?

Nowhere, that's where.

By the time the Ukraine war is done,

The next one will be against us.

And those best prepared live better and longer.

Yet, I digress.

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Haas's avatar

An end of an Era for an Empire Hegemon takes decades not a few years

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Denis's avatar
Sep 3Edited

I never said it takes a few years. Did you see the "over 20 years" I mentioned?

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Jürgen Räche's avatar

Count in decades! Although if it's really coming to an end, it might only be a matter of days.

Woe betide the spark that flies through Europe. And forcing Europe's population into war could be that spark. What they're currently doing is very dangerous for these "EU authorities."

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

I do not think European authorities want a general war with Russia.

They must know what happens when an unwilling population is conscripted for war.

They know they cannot count on the loyalty of most inmigrants.

They know Russian has no intention to attack Europe.

On top of that, whatever this very bad analyst, GM, says a NATO superiority over Russia is not sure at all.

But, would a general war threaten to end in a Russian defeat, China may decide that they cannot afford to stay aside, as they would be the next victim.

A China-Russia combination would defeat NATO hands down.

Then, why do those authorities spread this Russian war hysteria?

In my analysis, the main factor is that they understand that the mistakes that have been committed have put most European nations in a desperate state.

They want to blame the impending catastrophe to the necessity of being prepared for the Russian invasion. They will be also able also to introduce censorship and to oppress the opposition.

In fact, Merz is not at all afraid of Putin, he is afraid of AfD.

Macron is not afraid of Putin, he is afraid of R.N.

with or without LePen.

Also, military buys of weapons, especially to the Americans, are an ideal way for illegal commissions.

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marcomartim's avatar

What nonsense are you talking? Russia has been bogged down in Ukraine for over three years. Taking a small city could take months. It wouldn't withstand a conventional war against NATO. A hot war between Russia and NATO would quickly escalate into nuclear and biological warfare, a war of extermination. There's no alternative.

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Kennewick Man's avatar

This is going to be difficult to digest for some but with covid, gain of function research, Ukraine proxy war, Gaza, etc., we have entered a confrontation that will decide who will be able to live on this planet before the century ends. The population of every Western Nation has to recognize this as this is the initial step toward survival.

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Victor's avatar

You assume that all countries have the same interpretation of Agenda 2030. The Western elites have their Orwellian view, but the rest of the world has quite another.

It's one thing designing a programme - it's quite another successfully implementing it - the Western elite are running out of time and they know it.

And no one is suggesting that the Empire is going tits up tomorrow - only that events playing out are accelerating that decline.

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Denis's avatar

You will be in for a rude awakening, Victor. Agenda 2030 is universal. Russia, India, China, they're all in on it, man. I've already sent you evidence of it, and you dismiss it. Time will tell.

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Mikey Johnson's avatar

Agree. But the original Body Snatchers was better!

We are going down and historically 100 or 200 years is not long.

What we have experienced the last 30 years is extraordinary. And the last 10 years have been a real down-hill race.

Of course those with money can continue their lives and there are plenty of them. And media is fostering ordinary people to gamble or doing lottery for the dreamlife of the riches. But society is crumbling all over.

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SG_observer's avatar

Let's bet $1K... I actually think the US empire falls apart in a big way by the end of this year as events are moving apace in many areas against it. But it may be able to hold out till the end of next year. I don't worry about CBDC, social credit scores etc. A lot of crap that they say about China is actually just pure projection on the western elites's part.. but they repeat it ad nauseam enough that people think it's true. Ukraine war effectively over before this year-end, again major movements all pointing to that. Remember, slowly and then suddenly. The biggest factor is actually the clotshots... that will stain the US reputation worldwide in such a way that it will be considered a pariah state. Can't blame the Israeli "jews", coz they make them jab themselves up too, so they're also dead men walking. The waves of death already started this year in a noticeably way... will continue to pick up speed next year and through 2027. No govts can avoid responsibility ... hence a lot of political turnover happening in all the western-influenced space. On top of that, lots more vex-injured folks that will be taken out from the workforce, what 'economy' will we have left? Thus we live in very interesting times.... you really can take that to the bank (if you still trust them with your money).

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Alzaebo's avatar

I'm betting Israel got the batches ending in 001 - saline solution for the connected and the political, just to make the medicine go down easier for the rest of us.

002 - mitochondria, clotting

003 - turbo cancers

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SG_observer's avatar

Maybe only Netanyahoo... the level of vex damage was very high from the get go and they made the first documentaries about it there. I was following an israeli woman named Efrat Fenigson.... who found data that actually 1/3 of Israelis evaded the jab, so the actual govt figures about high jab % were pure bunk, just like how in the US 0.5% more got jabbed everyday according to official stats. That straightline feature is a huge red flag that they just used a spreadsheet to come up with the numbers.. it wasn't a honest data reporting.

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marcomartim's avatar

"I have been hearing about the demise of the West for over 20 years, yet the party continues."

No, unfortunately it doesn't, I lived in the USA in the 70s until the mid 80s, it was another country, that West died like the frog boiled in the pan and you didn't notice...

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Denis's avatar

I know about the overlords' deliberate demise of the West. It's a global thing when you dig deeper. However, many of us continue to live a privileged life. Enjoy it while it's still there. Not everyone sinks at the same time.

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Haas's avatar

"Ukraine’s ‘recruitment problems’ are not as bad as we were led to believe, and its authorities are confident they can sustain military manpower regeneration even without the 18-22 cohort."

This is nonsense, so why is there countless uploads of Kidnapping people off the streets and always in a violent confrontation?

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James B.'s avatar

Well, that's exactly why Ukraine's ‘recruitment problems’ are not as bad.

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Kennewick Man's avatar

I might add to this the extremely corrupted, enforced enrollment process for the UAF and the nationwide recent demonstrations of young women taking their case to the public, very much in the face of Zelensky. These young ladies have a huge leverage just simply by electing to do, or not do certain things in the privacy of their own bedrooms and never forget that. For absurdly high prices enrollment can be avoided and that means life against very possible death for these men. The days and months of this absurd system are limited now.

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

It worked for Lysistrata.

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Kennewick Man's avatar

If I had the luck to be born into a world that is at least halfway normal, I would have dedicated my whole life to the study of Classic Greek Culture. I did travel up and down among those unforgettable islands and I can never get them out of my mind.

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Gerald's avatar

An amazing culture worthy of study

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

It's not too late and it sounds like those beautiful fresh pristine islands, like the Sirens (who may be less dangerous than Kiev unless you can time travel) may still be calling to you. And studying them now in these degenerate times might be a refreshing balance, There's so much wisdom, courage and honor present even in battle during that period. There were constant wars at that time, yet philosophy thrived. The Pre-Socratic Heraclitus's central ideas were of the unity of opposites and the view of change, of flux - always becoming" but never "being," that everything flows and that "No man ever steps in the same river twice." If we saw the world as he did we would see "harmony and justice inherent in the strife," however messy, that we are witnessing. So there's breadth and comfort to be found. Interestingly, Simplicius of Cilicius, one of the last Neo-Platonists refers to him many times. There are many jewels to be found and contemplate amongst all of them. Better than mindless entertainment.

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Denis's avatar

The US has over $ 2 trillion to spend on military purposes alone, paid for both domestically and abroad with IOU's (bonds) and taxes. At some time, it may default but all ships will sink along with it. That's when CBDC's are likely to be introduced as a solution to a problem the overseers created in the first place. We're all paying for our own demise. On the bright side, today was beautiful and sunny. Life is good, until it isn't.

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Victor's avatar

As with all advanced technologies, CBDCs are a logical and inevitable step forward in today's digitised world. And like all technology, the difference lies in how they are implemented and under what motivations. I would imagine the motivations behind them would be quite different in the West as opposed to the rest of the world, just as most everything else differs.

Don't be overly concerned over events you can't control - "resistance is futile"😉 .

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Denis's avatar

I got my bases covered, Victor.

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Richard V's avatar

The SCO doesn't have a chance. The titular leader of The Empire and faux populist, Donald J. Trump, surrounded by his supporting staff of Big Tech types, Wall Street hedge fund managers and Zionists, today issued the standard continuing threats and triumphalist blither relating to various aspects of foreign and domestic affairs. He has won the hearts of his Right-Wing supporters by launching a nationwide crack-down on illegal aliens. Cynical critics say this may be an effort to distract from America's dismal economy while building the internal security and surveillance apparatus necessary to subdue recalcitrant citizens. Meanwhile his continuing pursuit of wars through American proxies in Ukraine, the Middle East and the Pacific has buoyed the stock prices of the nation's weapons makers. His imaginative economic policy is built around a tariff program which effectively seals out foreign competition which may threaten domestic monopolies in Big Tech. The loquacious and confident former game-show host and Mafia connected real estate mogul, rose to the presidency after America's faux-Left Democratic Party saw its political support drain away after abandoning its working class base for appeals to bizarre, marginal, minority elements. The Democrats, like Trump's Republicans, are financed by Zionists, Wall Streeters, banking big-wigs and weapons manufacturer donors who benefit from both parties' focus on “cultural issues” leaving them free to loot the economy at the expense of the disappearing middle-class. The twice-divorced, long-time buddy of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has instead focussed on Christian family values and has a strong stable of cross-wearing supporters in his administration. The so-called middle-class is not represented by any party in US politics. Some social commentators believe it will likely soon be replaced by ignorant, impoverished, debt-slaves obsessed with social media, sports, glamorous celebrities and self-help gurus. Will keep you posted as developments continue to unfold. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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Fledr Maus's avatar

Crooked Richard V!!! Lock him up!!!

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Richard V's avatar

I must assert, like an earlier Dick, "I am not a crook!"

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Simon Robinson's avatar

Richard; there might be a bit of a problem with DJT's Christian supporters and their so called values, in that they support Zionism to the absolute hilt and pray daily for Armageddon, the Christian conversion of all Jews and the Rapture. Let's just say, politely, that quite a few of them definitely aren't right in their heads and happily cheer along as we head for hell in a handcart.

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John Thomas's avatar

Sadly that born again Christian, rapture loving american is entrenched among the US generals and military staff. Its one thing to pray for the rapture, its another to have operational nukes under your command and still pray for the rapture.

The US military desperately needs a purge.

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Chip Worley's avatar

Not all Christians are Zionists. Not by a long shot. And certainly don't believe in rapture or modern day Israel being the "chosen ones"... Chip

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Chip Worley's avatar

Not disagreeing with your post at all. But this... "while building the internal security and surveillance apparatus necessary to subdue recalcitrant citizens."

Cannot happen. Most don't understand how truly big the US is. Or how many guns there are. Lots of independent thinkers. Convid was a test no doubt for the quote above. It failed and I believe set back their plans for a decade or more... Chip

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Chevrus's avatar

Indeed. The whole “but 90% TOOK it!” Was utter fiction.

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Denis's avatar
Sep 3Edited

The EU will attack Russia within the next 5 years.

Russia had better have a contingency plan in anticipation of a European invasion.

Even though this article is pure comedy, it does foretell hostile intent upon Russia's Western Front.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/european-plan-to-deploy-troops-to-ukraine-is-revealed/ar-AA1LCDDy?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=491b0520b6c34ebfd1493d8be2acb285&ei=2

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Fledr Maus's avatar

We can provide single digit NATO troops on the ground ;)

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Proterran's avatar

They will likely try for a few "skirmishes" first, like a color revolution here and border provocations there (think Finland, Kaliningrad, Transnistra). I am sure Russia is expecting those, even as the first predictive salvos have already been launched. The Europeans will likely concentrate first on bringing recalcitrant countries like hungary and Slovakia to heel, while stirring up more trouble in Serbia (already happening).

Ultimately it's all about how much Europe will weaken economically over the coming years, even while they dredge up all manner of magic money potions (who cares about debt, right? just print money like the US does). It will continue to weaken even as it'll produce more arms and up the ante in its belicose pronouncements. The European people as a whole have become mentally lazy when it comes to political activism, too spoiled after years of generous welfare and comfort. Of course, the inequality is growing and the millions of migrants will become more restive - both serving as reason to amp the volume on the war shrillness.

In my recent visit to several European countries I was astounded at the extent to which their educated people have become propagandized, be it against Russia or a sense of the growing dangers their societies face. The mental passivity of some of the intellectuals I met - long time friends/colleagues - was disturbing. Sure, age does its thing but I know also plenty of older individuals in many places who not only remained firebrands but, if anything, have become even more willing to put themselves in the line of fire. Indeed, i suspect many of the fire spitting dragons we see on comment pages like here or on eg MoA are not exactly spring chickens (heck, I believe that daily dose of aggrevation about something "out there" is the recipe for mental staying power. beats sudoku, that's for sure).

So, indeed, there's cause for worry, though perhaps, just perhaps, the economic stagnation to come will undermine the shrill hawks as the thrill of war will fail to animate an increasingly stressed out, inward looking populations.....

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JennyStokes's avatar

From France: Agree with all the above.

Just waiting for Sept.10th. Blockage of everything. IF this works then we do it for weeks on end.

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dacoelec's avatar

In the USSA, a majority of the Trump supporters/zionist's are on the dead side of 70 years old, so be patient, Grasshopper, be patient. (I know you aren't Grasshopper, but I trust you get the inference). LOL.

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Victor's avatar

Denis, you can't be serious....can you? Where are these troops going to come from - the UK? France? Germany? Perhaps Estonia, or Lithuania with their formidable forces?

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Denis's avatar

European leaders need war to send all those unemployables so they won't turn on them when the economies have been shattered. It's a great way to depopulate and reset the system like in 45.

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John Osman's avatar

Denis pretty much every European country has a falling population. In some places, Italy, the demographic decline is significant.

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Denis's avatar

Well, the demographic decline will continue. Humans are more expendable, replaced by AI and robots. War is a great depopulation tool.

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Victor's avatar

I think, with the exception of a nuclear exchange, large civilian population reduction will be a thing of the past with the advent of modern warfare.

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Chevrus's avatar

The Shots have done great work at infertility…

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Victor's avatar

Well yes, that's what they would hope but I suspect they have not yet realised the trend set by Russia in modern warfare. Whereas large armies and big arrow attacks, along with carpet bombing formed the basis of 20th century warfare, all this has changed with the advent of high accuracy hypersonic missiles and suicide drones, eliminating the need (and possibility!) of large formation advances. Russia will strike with such accurate, unstoppable weaponry at military bases, transport and logistics centres, centres of intelligence and munitions/war equipment factories across Europe. No need anymore for carpet bombing in hopes to hit the real targets you aim for. I believe this is what Russia is aiming for in any European conflict that arises. With their arsenal of missiles and drones they can obliterate all these targets in a relatively short time, selecting first the most critical ones to Europe's ability to wage war.

My opinion only as a non-military expert.

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Denis's avatar

That is a good idea, Victor.

Blow up the enemy as soon as they cross the Ukrainian Border with a near-unlimited supply of smart bombs and drones.

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Victor's avatar

Actually, if after the the ukrainian conflict, they attempt a border crossing, all the above will happen and they are not likely to make much of an intrusion before being destroyed, even with NATO air support (most important NATO airbases supporting such an adventure will be taken off the map in short order, I would think).

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GM's avatar
Sep 3Edited

>all this has changed with the advent of high accuracy hypersonic missiles and suicide drones, eliminating the need (and possibility!) of large formation advances.

What can a hypersonic missile do against a "large formation" if it is not nuclear?

What parallel reality are you bozos living in in which buzzwords are all that matters?

>Russia will strike with such accurate, unstoppable weaponry at military bases, transport and logistics centres, centres of intelligence and munitions/war equipment factories across Europe

Just as it has hit all those things in Ukraine and Ukraine was quickly and decisively defeated as a result?

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Luis Gómez de Aranda's avatar

The selection of targets can be different according to circumstances.

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dacoelec's avatar

100 percent correct. Russia has been developing this plan for years.

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JennyStokes's avatar

French are turning. Sept.10th. Hope it works.

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Denis's avatar

Where are the French turning to, Jenny?

It would be nice to see them enter Ukraine and get smart bombed back to France in body bags.

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JennyStokes's avatar

It is a protest movement. Bring the country to a halt. No shops open/transportation etc.

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Steghorn21's avatar

What will that achieve? Your voting system will never allow a real leader in who will change things. Macron is a bankster, Le Pen is all talk and that idiot in charge of "La France insoumise" is just a communist dinosaur. The French want change but they will never give up their bloated welfare state and other goodies.

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GM's avatar
Sep 3Edited

A NATO-Russia war is not going to be fought with troops.

How many times does that have to be explained?

And NATO has all the advantages here in terms of forward positioning and the sizes of its naval and air forces.

Russia's only chance is a nuclear strike and it will have to be a pre-emptive one.

The bet is that Putin doesn't have the balls to do it, and far it has been a very safe bet, and for deep structural reasons that practically none of the "experts" you see paraded online daily has ever bothered to touch, it will likely remain a safe bet all the way to Putin ending up like Milosevic.

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Denis's avatar

Would it not be to Europe's advantage to rush in troops to reinforce AFU's weakening positions if they near capitulation?

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GM's avatar

They will do that, but that is to secure the territory.

An actual serious war won’t be fought with those troops, it will be like Iran versus Israel, and the parallels there in terms of who has what advantages are obvious.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Simple. Offer citizenship to Africans, Asians, Latin Americans that sign up.

Europeans won't like it, but nobody will ask them.

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Victor's avatar

Maybe... lol

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Where will they come from? From the exponentially growing Mercenary aka Private Contractor Businesses like G4S, traded on stock markets and with an estimated millions of Contractors worldwide (their numbers are not being tracked). Thus no citizen push back and citizens grow even softer. It's happening in this country with ICE.

https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/article/2031922/mercenaries-and-war-understanding-private-armies-today/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/04/g4s-global-security-company?srsltid=AfmBOopMVIQXDHmvN3jpdSQLHpAYHlrZkzwoUlFi6RvJc6ZEFGPTYuif

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Victor's avatar

Good points, but I question 1) the affordability of mounting a massive mercenary army by any of these European states these days and 2) when mercenaries are shuttled to the front against Russia, many of them are simply not competent for this new kind of warfare and end up either dead or saying "Fuck this!" and leaving.

But you are indeed correct - the West is heavily dependent on mercenaries these days in order to support their war designs without disturbing their respective populations.

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Yes, true, but in terms of number 1, there has been a gradual take over of the US and European governments over the last few decades by the corporate oligarchs/billionaires, esp by the weapons/surveillance/tech industries and think tanks. In the US pretty much complete, where the government, Congress, Judiciary are basically becoming figureheads. So there's plenty of money to fuel corporate aims.

And No. 2 absolutely. Mercenaries have no loyalty to any country and are doing it for money, not getting killed. I believe the Romans used mercenaries, even the "barbarians" they conquered, increasingly in the late stages of the Empire.

I don't think this is going to end well.

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Alzaebo's avatar

It might end very well indeed - the mercenaries decide to take the throne, kick out the careerists and sinecures and reward loyalists with those positions, and use their position to Do What Must Be Done.

Since they didn't gain power by gerrymandering the vote, they won't need to worry about the migrant blocs electing them. Instead, they'll just kick them out.

But putting mercs in charge of the ministries!, you might gasp.

Friend, these are Europeans, not Africans. They're hard, smart professionals - they'll do fine running a sewer system, or whatever else they put their hands to.

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Glasshopper's avatar

I expect such a war to turn swiftly into a missile war with missile technology and air defence paramount. I don't see tanks, trenches etc. And I don't see Russia losing.

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John Osman's avatar

What would you define as "attack" mate?

It's arguable that sanctions are an "attack" in themselves.

So what do you expect in 5 years?

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Denis's avatar
Sep 3Edited

Well, John,

Will Europe send in troops to Ukraine within 5 years?

It's what they are planning. By not taking Ukraine militarily, Russia has left Ukraine as a forward European base to advance close to the Russian border and link up with the remaining AFU forces.

I expect a greater war against Russia as a desperate Europe resorts to war to solve its huge unemployment problem from a broken economy, and gets them to fight for some silly cause. Unless the European leadership changes, the path to war has been made evident by current leaders.

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John Osman's avatar

Saying and doing are two very different things mate.

"Empty vessels make the most noise"

Our politicians make promises and threats on a daily basis that they will never deliver on.

We have declining populations. I just don't think it's realistic

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Denis's avatar
Sep 3Edited

I agree that saying and doing could be different..

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Victor's avatar

You keep saying Russia will not take Ukraine militarily and that it will leave the rest of Ukraine as a forward European base. Neither is true at all. Russia is in the advanced stages of completely destroying the Ukrainian military and its ability to fight. The West can continue to send arms, ammo and supplies but without a military to effectively put those to use, the effort will be to no avail.

As for leaving Ukraine as a forward base, that is precisely what Russia is in this to prevent in the first place. There will be no NATO/European troops in Ukraine - full stop. Russia will never allow it.

If Ukraine continues to exist as a state, it will look much like the map on the wall of the Russian General Staff office - look closely at that map:

https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2025-09/4e08fd14fc_5.webp

😉

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Denis's avatar

Taking out Ukraine is not in Russia's plan.

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Victor's avatar

De-militarisation and de-nazification is, however - which strongly implies regime change if a Ukrainian state is left standing at all. And that new regime will be at least formally neutral, not allowing any foreign troops.

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Denis's avatar

Maybe.

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Victor's avatar

Oh, and if you by "taking out Ukraine", a full Russian occupation of the whole of Ukraine, then I agree - that is not, at least to my knowledge, in their plans, spoken or unspoken.

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Feral Finster's avatar

"Russia is in the advanced stages of completely destroying the Ukrainian military and its ability to fight."

We've been hearing that one for literally years, now.

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Victor's avatar

And it's more true today than ever... 😉

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Feral Finster's avatar

Of course, of course, of course the crackpots here have it all figured out.

Any day now, The Great Pumpkin will rise over the pumpkin patch....

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GM's avatar

Might be sooner.

Today it was claimed that the Lithuanian president could not land for an hour because of an "unindentified" drone circling around the airport.

This days after the von der Layen "situation" in Bulgaria (which looks entirely fabricated).

Looks like someone is looking for a reason to do something...

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marcomartim's avatar

"The EU will attack Russia within the next 5 years.

Russia had better have a contingency plan in anticipation of a European invasion."

What nonsense are you talking? Russia has been bogged down in Ukraine for over three years. Taking a small city could take months. It wouldn't withstand a conventional war against NATO. A hot war between Russia and NATO would quickly escalate into nuclear and biological warfare, a war of extermination. There's no alternative.

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I am optimistic of course about the rise of a New World Order, one that is fairer to even small countries and respects differences while striving for compromises on even the most difficult disputes. The world as a whole does indeed yearn for such a rebirth of a civilizational order, unlike the hollowed out model the West, under America's faulty and selfishly domineering leadership, has fashioned - to the detriment of us all.

Alas, my realpolik bone keeps ticking off the dangers in the coming years and decades. For one, no Empire ever went down easy and nearly all, on their way down, became ever more dangerous, brutal and destructive (externally and internally). We can all hope for a "soft landing", but seeing that silly Von der Lying effectively digging an ever deeper hole for a fast weakening Europe, doing her best to sabotage even a modicum of sensible resolutions towards peace in Ukraine, is not just a sad sight in itself but also a harbinger of what blindness and desperateness can wring upon countless people living in the Western enclaves.

Making matters worse we have the spectacle of the Israeli deliberate genocide unfolding in front of our eyes with nary an effective counteraction from anywhere (other than symbolic gestures). Not from the West, cowed for years by fanning the memories of its own past persecutions, not from the leader, America, caught as it is in the vice of a strangling Jewish-Israeli Lobby, and alas, not from the leaders of the SCO and BRICS, be they Xi, Putin or Modi. I understand that this is not the time for the Global South leaders to act in unison on this matter, given all the other challenges they face, just coming together on various significant issues that still separate them. But still, the Gaza genocide stands there not only as a decisive rebuke to whatever "values" the West was so keenly peddling for decades, but also as a warning to the Rising Order. Some conflicts are too profoundly disturbing and too far reaching to be settled amicably. The situation with a rogue country making a break for "Greater Israel" (ie playing out the horrors of the west's colonialist exterminating execrable past exploits) is not a mere border dispute that can perhaps be settled. Neither is it like a Ukraine-Russia war where we can all see possible resolutions on the horizon (yes, I know - if only good sense prevailed). It is not even a potentially resolvable conundrum of finding a way to allow self-determination, or at least meaningful autonomy, to a persecuted minority (or majority?).

The problem of israel is a far more serious one both because of the historical background but also because one of the parties has access to vast amounts of finance and is a powerhouse when it come to surveillance. It, israel, is also an entity far more insidious and determined to prevail upon any and all. Indeed, what I am trying to say is that israel, unlike any other turbulent country - be it in Africa or Asia or latin America - is, in fact a psychopathic entity, one not governed by political or social sense but by a kind of zealotry that extreme religiously fanatic groups like ISIS could only dream of. One almost has to be from there to know that (which I am).

Somehow, knowing how deep the toxicity of israel - and jewish power supporters behind it - goes, how utterly propagandized their society is and how fast they are multip[lying, I have this nagging sinking feeling. One I wish I could shake off.

BTW, I am sure the three SCO leaders (and no doubt others in attendance) did touch upon that "little issue" but likely shelved it for another day in the interest of emphasizing possible, practical, near-term outcomes. But personally, I am not sure how long the luxury of waiting will hold.

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